10 Dead, 34 Wounded
- At least 10 people were killed or found dead under suspicious circumstances since 3 p.m. Friday afternoon across Chicago.
Among the dead were the decomposing bodies of a mother and her three children found in an East Chatham home with evidence of trauma and a fire that was never reported, and three men dead in a double-murder-suicide in the Mayfair neighborhood Friday afternoon.
Thirty-five people were also wounded in shootings as far north as the Albany Park neighborhood and as far south as Roseland. Some of the wounded were in critical condition. No side of the city was without a shooting this weekend.
Granted, a few of these were "innies," and even the mighty J-Fled couldn't prevent a domestic from spiraling into homicide, but from what we can gather, Chicago is averaging in excess of sixty shot per week. Sixty. That's ridiculous. We're up hundreds of shootings from last year and dozens of homicides. The "crime is down" phrase is getting worn a bit thin as of late.
posted by SCC at 12:51 AM
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Is it because of new gun laws and concealed carry?
I have a sincere question for all of you who have lived in Chicago for a long time and/or were born and raised there. I keep hearing people on various message boards and forums (let me emphasize that I'm not talking about the media) saying that crime these days in Chicago is not much compared to what it was in the 80s and early 90s. These people are saying that there were a lot more shootings and murders back then. I have a feeling these people are drinking the Chicago machine koolaid....but again, these are not media people, so what do they have to gain by lying?
Thankfully, I now live VERY far away from Chicago and Illinois, but when I lived in Chicago, I don't remember the violence being this bad. I first arrived to Chicago in the summer of 95 in case anyone is wondering. As far as I know, Chicago was a good place to be back then. Sadly, it's not anymore and my heart breaks about Chicago's deterioration.
Ok, so here's my question to you Chicago guys and gals. Are the number of shootings and murders really down from the 80s and 90s or are the people who say this crap just repeating Rahm and the machine's bullshit?
Thanks in advance.
What you think about that Garry?
It is not just Chitcago. Baltimore, NYC, DC, everyone is seeing more killing. Ofcourse no one is willing to talk about who is victimized and who the perpetrators are, Unless it is a Police Officer trying to do his job.
Another Emanuel/McCarthy/Preckwinkle summer -- Emanuel absent after having poked McCarthy in the a__ with a sharp object.
Yo, Mac, Mayor proud of you, right? Gov. too. Ever get invited to the $100,000/year private wine club in Montana to glug back a $6000 bottle in a couple of (gasp) goes? They know better, want to keep their outdoor lighting the way it is.
...and Preckwinkle running around Harrison with Lysol Spray, OMG, OMG, all these...well, dead people. Ick.
MurderFest Chicago 2015.
Always-on-the-lookout Ari will name the next expensive, multi-day noisemaker after that -- and sell T-shirts printed with the logo.
This summer = last summer = summer before last.
&c.
Working on my tan...
Changes are coming. I heard a certain Lieutenant stepped on his Dick.
Now the shit rolls down hill. Get ready
The priority in Chicago is not crime, it's making sure people use re-usable bags when grocery shopping.
Watched that last night on the News. They are going to start charging for plastic bags? Someone wants people to pay for their grocery bags? THAT is outrageous!!
Are people on LINK going to have to pay for the bags or is there some new program that will subsidize them for the plastic bags?
Let get priorities straight. Who cares about the shootings? Let's make sure people can get free bags for grocery shopping.
Can we go back to calling him the murder mayor yet? I havent heard that one in awhile. He is certainly earning the name.
... And "Democratically controlled" city becomes yet another oxymoron. It's ALL Chiraq O'Bama's fault.
Interesting how there's no mention in media that within 11 hrs there were 13 shot in 011 and that over half of the city weekend shootings were from 011.
No shooting -- here, the Criminalization Of The Exhausted.
Don't get IOD/feeling ill/wheelchair and let someone else do your banking -- Obama WILL take your s__t.
Obama admin looks to ban some Social Security recipients from owning guns
July 20, 2015
"The Obama administration wants to keep people collecting Social Security benefits from owning guns if it is determined they are unable to manage their own affairs, the Los Angeles Times reported.
"The push, which could potentially affect millions whose monthly disability payments are handled by others, is intended to bring the Social Security Administration in line with laws that prevent gun sales to felons, drug addicts, immigrants in the United States illegally, and others, according to the paper.
"The language of federal gun laws restricts ownership to people who are unable to manage their own affairs due to "marked subnormal intelligence, or mental illness, incompetency, condition, or disease” – which could potentially affect a large group within Social Security..."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/07/20/obama-looks-to-ban-social-security-recipients-from-owning-guns/?intcmp=latestnews
...and your "condition" getting bigger all the time...
More programs. More programs. More programs. More programs. See! Problem solved.
It is not just Chitcago. Baltimore, NYC, DC, everyone is seeing more killing. Ofcourse no one is willing to talk about who is victimized and who the perpetrators are, Unless it is a Police Officer trying to do his job.
7/21/2015 01:15:00 AM
Its happening in every bigger city in America. Every bigger city in America has their own version of comstat. Those bigger cities have also cut back on their officers and in some smaller cities they eliminated the entire police force. The federal governent has cut funding for law enforcement and are trying to rely on COMSTAT to keep crime down. Wakeup America!
Add another homicide to the list. Howard El Line up in 024
I have a sincere question for all of you who have lived in Chicago for a long time and/or were born and raised there. I keep hearing people on various message boards and forums (let me emphasize that I'm not talking about the media) saying that crime these days in Chicago is not much compared to what it was in the 80s and early 90s. These people are saying that there were a lot more shootings and murders back then. I have a feeling these people are drinking the Chicago machine koolaid....but again, these are not media people, so what do they have to gain by lying?
Medical advances are the number one reason we don't have the same numbers we had in the 80's and 90's. Also, when the projects were up the violence was contained, now it's spreading throughout the city like a cancer.
Lie, Cheat, Steal - the Democratic Motto.
I know the democrats are lying when they say '"crime is down" because their lips are moving.
To the second poster.From 1969-2011 I was a teacher in the South Side of Chicago.
In fact i taught in high schools and for 25 years never taught a white kid, there were none at my school.In 1984 a super athlete named Ben Wilson was shot to death right outside the school door.I only tell you this because what i am about to write comes from experience not news casts.
the 70's and 80's were just plane murder.The civil rights movement of the 60's
empowered minorities in many ways one was the development of street gangs driven by dope money.Those two things,dope and gangs combined to make the 70-80's a shooting gallery.Every Monday we would get the report of how many of out students got murdered over the week end.Human life became real cheap with the resulting carnage.Sorry to report the drugs and gangs are still here but the violance is not qiute as bad.Or did we just get use to all the killings?
The average number of people shot per week in Chicago is 60? The minimum cost of medical treatment is $250,000. Surgery,hospital stay,rehabilitation and payments from the Illinois Victim's Fund. This cost is paid by the law abiding taxpaying Citizen..
Chalkie is making a comeback.
Anybody hear Craig Dellimore's" interview with The Supt over the weekend? Trying to suggest this as if I were able to leave my bias opinion behind, but The Supt really believes he's in possession of a "gifted" mind when it comes to Law Enforcement. It's theory and most certainly it's application.
John Oliver would be delightful to take our Dear Supt to task. I'd love to actually ask Mr. Dellimore posthumously if he too believes The Supt is far less than truthful on topical issues. According to The Supt he's come up with a lot of theory and practice as if he were an Einstein, just in the field of law enforcement.
A lot of head strong opinion out of The Supt, but not much to boast of in reality.
In response to 1:01AM,
Chicago is a much more dangerous place now than it was in the 80s or 90s. There are fewer nice places to live and even the tourist-y places aren't safe. Years ago, the City made sure that at least Michigan Ave, etc. were safe for the tourists. There are fewer murders now than thirty years (murders used to be near a thousand a year), but that's only because trauma medicine is so much better now. People who were shot or stabbed are now living, when they would have died on the hospital table even ten years ago. The doctors are just saving more people...the City is definitely not experiencing fewer shootings or a safer place to live.
This is the guy who asked the sincere question about Chicago violence earlier. In fairness, I should add that back in the 80s to mid 90s, we didn't really have the internet, or at least the current version of the internet, so we weren't able to get news as fast and as instantly as we do now.
But still, even back then, we eventually did hear the news, and that would include violent crime.....and I still don't remember Chicago crime being as bad as it is now.
101am....homicides were up in the 700 to 800 a year back then...which would be the same numbers today if not for advances in the medical field
"Among the dead were the decomposing bodies of a mother and her three children found in an East Chatham home with evidence of trauma and a fire that was never reported..."
This one is nasty. My guess -- the standard-issue lethal live-in boyfriend. Truth will out.
"More programs. More programs. More programs. More programs. See! Problem solved."
7/21/2015 06:21:00 AM
Need a program to "review" all these other programs. Got to keep those "coordinator" and "director" and "facilitator" paychecks coming at all costs...
You can't live in the past of the 80' and 90's. What's happening today in Chicago?
Every 3:13 a person is shot
Every 18:33 a person is murdered
77.3% victims are black
18.8% victims are hispanic
Total 96.1% of all homicide
Neighborhoods have changed and not for the better.
If the media would report the news and not make up the news would anyone want to live or visit Chicago,that might get the Mayor upset.
Many years ago, aggresive and preventive patrol was the order of business. Now, after the last 6-!/2 years, policing has taken a hands off approach as totally demonstrated by the politics of Baltimore. Police will do there jobs, answer calls, write reports and write a ticket and parker every now and then. That's it as a result of the policy coming from the White House.
Black violence is out of control throughout this country. The black community continues to blame everyone else for their problems and it is not going to get better.
Maybe the Hug-A-Thug program could be brought back.
Or how about more Gun Control laws? That always seems to work in Chi and Cook County...
These are all lies by right wingers. Crime is down and Chicago is a great place to raise a family because of our Chicago values.
Bwahahahahahahahha!
Sorry, I couldn't pull it off.
Move the family out as soon as you are able. The Idiocracy of Chicago is only growing. Soon the taxes will be MUCH higher than anywhere else in the nation. There is life outside of this communist shithole. Find it.
Ok, so here's my question to you Chicago guys and gals. Are the number of shootings and murders really down from the 80s and 90s or are the people who say this crap just repeating Rahm and the machine's bullshit?
Thanks in advance.
7/21/2015 01:01:00 AM
Many, many, more murders in the 80's. 002 usually won with highest count.
Glad to see all those "Impact Teams" in OCD are making a difference!!!
Can we go back to calling him the murder mayor yet? I havent heard that one in awhile. He is certainly earning the name.
7/21/2015 04:06:00 AM
But don't forget he's built and opened the overpriced and unnecessary Maggie Daley Park, is full steam ahead on the De Paul arena fiasco, he's giving virtually free Divvy use to the ghetto etc....... so he's got all that going for him.
Priorities, priorities.
More people are shot today the. In the 80's and 90's. The difference is ems and Ed doctors have gotten much better at keeping shooting victim alive. More people died in the past, but fewer people were shot. More people shot in today's time then in the past. Chicago is a crime ridden town.
Obviously the Yutes of Chicago need a marksmanship program to improve their shootings. Maybe the Academy could provide that to the poor darlings. Free ammo to the underprivileged?
Ok, so here's my question to you Chicago guys and gals. Are the number of shootings and murders really down from the 80s and 90s or are the people who say this crap just repeating Rahm and the machine's bullshit?
Yes, there were many more murders and shootings during the "Crack Wars" of the late 80s and early 90s. If I remember right Area 2 had well over 300 murders in one year alone,1993 I think, and the FBI sent agents to work there side by side with the detectives, much to the chagrin of the dicks.
Since the 70s, 80s and 90s medical technology has greatly improved. So thank your paramedics, doctors and nurses for saving these honor students who would have died in the 70s 80s or 90s with a similar situation.
From a blog troll: This is what we have become Mr. Southside; we are a death culture because anti social government programs. We do not attend church or live faithful lives, if you do or have faith you are belittled and castigated. It took a big jump forward with fetus crushing, fetus body part sales and service when Roe v. Wade was social policy forced on citizens by the supremes, liberal social benefits in exchange for more welfare, more welfare and less jobs, failing schools where 9 in ten CPS students cannot read at grade level and almost 4 in ten cannot read at all. They will never have jobs or build wealth or be self sufficient or have a moral system built in any kind of faith other than a government social program. And we are shocked at ten dead and scores wounded? Not me, I am not surprised. Rather it figures, it makes sense and the numbers have no where to go but up.
hey but in 012, they were told at roll call that contact cards need to be generated on each individual beat because they are near last citywide on contact cards....... hmmmm ok boys and girls don't pay attention to those bad bad stats from the weekend, focus on getting the jag commander CONTACT CARDS....... because he said so !!!!
Blogger bob said...
To the second poster.From 1969-2011 I was a teacher in the South Side of Chicago.
In fact i taught in high schools and for 25 years never taught a white kid, there were none at my school.In 1984 a super athlete named Ben Wilson was shot to death right outside the school door.I only tell you this because what i am about to write comes from experience not news casts.
the 70's and 80's were just plane murder.The civil rights movement of the 60's
empowered minorities in many ways one was the development of street gangs driven by dope money.Those two things,dope and gangs combined to make the 70-80's a shooting gallery.Every Monday we would get the report of how many of out students got murdered over the week end.Human life became real cheap with the resulting carnage.Sorry to report the drugs and gangs are still here but the violance is not qiute as bad.Or did we just get use to all the killings?
7/21/2015 08:47:00 AM
It's no wonder the overall "product" coming out of South Side(Chicago Public, presumably?) schools is fucked beyond fucked. And it's not just the south side, to be perfectly clear. It's most of the CPS.
You claim to have taught for 42 years, yet your grammar, spelling and punctuation are absolutley atrocious (that means shockingly bad or appalling, Bob). If you represent even 25% of the past or present teaching staff of the CPS (and I'm being WAY conservative on this number), it's little wonder why the average kid that actually graduates from a CPS high school tests out to read at a 5th grade level when applying for college.
Selective Enrollment programs aside, here's prima facie evidence why you need to keep your kids out of the CPS system.
I hope Bob taught nothing other than Print Shop or Auto Class.
Medical advances are the number one reason we don't have the same numbers we had in the 80's and 90's. Also, when the projects were up the violence was contained, now it's spreading throughout the city like a cancer.
This poster is 100% right on. This is what the media should be looking at.
""Ok, so here's my question to you Chicago guys and gals. Are the number of shootings and murders really down from the 80s and 90s or are the people who say this crap just repeating Rahm and the machine's bullshit? ""
I'd say if they have gone down they havn't gone down much. Unlike the overall city population which has gone down quite a bit. Now understand even tho we have taken down those terrible CHA high rises these knuckle heads still find a way to shoot each other on a scale as high, or higher, then their fathers did.
Medical science kick starts them back to a life of crime nowdays with an application of awesome science that has to be seen to be believed. Ive seen them bled out with no blood pressure only to see the same kid on the corner a month later. Minus an organ or two but alive. These medics and ER staffs are like Army battle trauma's they have gotten so good saving these numbskulls after they shoot each other.
They are shot with much deadlier weapons and ammo today as well and still survive. Back in the '80s the gangsters used to almost always use .25s, .32s, .22s, and occasionally a .380 or 9mm. Now it starts at 9mm and goes up from there, AND, they use much better ammo like high velocity JHPs from premium bullet makers. All acquired illegally BTW with drug profits.
Add to this deadly mix a Police Dept. with very poor morale that has far, far, far less ability to make an impact then we had in the '80s. Were tired of being demonized, video taped, spat on, insulted, sued, shit on daily from these scumbag newspapers so desperate to survive they sell Police negativity routinely because people want to buy it.
In short we have learned that while you do have to go to your calls nobody can make you see anything. How would you feel after stopping a car load of felon gangsters and seeing the entire neighborhood pour out to tape you and protect the rights of these same shit heads poisoning and murdering their children?
Its like the entire world has turned upside down and eventually you just stop giving a shit, do your 8, and go home to your own family safe.
No wonder these kids are fucked up, this guy was a teacher? Holy shit!!
Blogger bob said...
To the second poster.From 1969-2011 I was a teacher in the South Side of Chicago.
In fact i taught in high schools and for 25 years never taught a white kid, there were none at my school.In 1984 a super athlete named Ben Wilson was shot to death right outside the school door.I only tell you this because what i am about to write comes from experience not news casts.
the 70's and 80's were just plane murder.The civil rights movement of the 60's
empowered minorities in many ways one was the development of street gangs driven by dope money.Those two things,dope and gangs combined to make the 70-80's a shooting gallery.Every Monday we would get the report of how many of out students got murdered over the week end.Human life became real cheap with the resulting carnage.Sorry to report the drugs and gangs are still here but the violance is not qiute as bad.Or did we just get use to all the killings?
7/21/2015 08:47:00 AM
It's no wonder the overall "product" coming out of South Side(Chicago Public, presumably?) schools is fucked beyond fucked. And it's not just the south side, to be perfectly clear. It's most of the CPS.
You claim to have taught for 42 years, yet your grammar, spelling and punctuation are absolutley atrocious (that means shockingly bad or appalling, Bob). If you represent even 25% of the past or present teaching staff of the CPS (and I'm being WAY conservative on this number), it's little wonder why the average kid that actually graduates from a CPS high school tests out to read at a 5th grade level when applying for college.
Selective Enrollment programs aside, here's prima facie evidence why you need to keep your kids out of the CPS system.
I hope Bob taught nothing other than Print Shop or Auto Class.
Dear I fart in your direction.I notice a few problems with your rant.
I see misspelled words ,like absolutely,phrases like is fucked beyond fucked,
instead of are fucked beyond fucked.is there a reason to capitalize the word way?
I know you have no idea what you are talking about.FYI print shop teachers know spelling and grammar far beyond even English teachers.I will now take my generous
pension and purchase a new keyboard since the personality of my current one seems to have attracted your venom ,instead of what I had to say.
Hey officers if we all get more contact cards in our beat we wouldn't have all these shootings. Let's get with the program...
"Plane" murder? You mean a 747 was murdered? Obviously not an English or spelling teacher. Although I do believe a teacher should know the difference between "plane" and "plain".
(from the NBC5 report) "Another neighbor said he noticed a potent smell on the block for the last four or five days. It is unknown how long the victims have been dead."
This guy ever hear of a well-being check ? One phone call made sooner probably could have preserved more evidence and saved the forensics team a little headache. That's community involvement for you...
Anonymous said...
I have a sincere question for all of you who have lived in Chicago for a long time and/or were born and raised there. I keep hearing people on various message boards and forums (let me emphasize that I'm not talking about the media) saying that crime these days in Chicago is not much compared to what it was in the 80s and early 90s. These people are saying that there were a lot more shootings and murders back then. I have a feeling these people are drinking the Chicago machine koolaid....but again, these are not media people, so what do they have to gain by lying?
Thankfully, I now live VERY far away from Chicago and Illinois, but when I lived in Chicago, I don't remember the violence being this bad. I first arrived to Chicago in the summer of 95 in case anyone is wondering. As far as I know, Chicago was a good place to be back then. Sadly, it's not anymore and my heart breaks about Chicago's deterioration.
Ok, so here's my question to you Chicago guys and gals. Are the number of shootings and murders really down from the 80s and 90s or are the people who say this crap just repeating Rahm and the machine's bullshit?
Thanks in advance.
7/21/2015 01:01:00 AM
Chicago was worse, much worse back in the 1970's to late 1980's. In terms of not just murder and shootings, but overall crime and gangs. I lived in the north side of Chicago all of my life and even the north side had lots of pockets that were terrible and gang infested. Then in the early 1990's something interesting happened to Chicago- gentrification. Also the housing projects were torn down. That trend of having wealthy, educated, white urban professionals has changed the face of Chicago. We now have wealthy people moving in to the city of Chicago at a faster rate and the poor are being forced out. New condos, townhouses and single family houses are built all over the city's north side. Real estate prices have gone back up to the peak levels of 2006 and some have even gone past that. So all of these people are stupid right? Of course not. Urban renewal is a nationwide trend. In all major cities, young people want to move in to the downtown core and surrounding areas. A lot of young people from the Midwest want to move to Chicago. In trendy neighborhoods like Lincoln Park, Wrigleyville, etc. you will notice a lot of young people are from Ohio, Wisconsin, or some bland boring suburb like Naperville. Chicago is the destination of choice for many young dynamic professionals.
Chicago's violent crime problem is only significant in a handful of police districts and areas. Mostly the south and west sides. Even the south and west sides have seen significant decreases in crime compared to the 1970's to early 1990's. Too many police officers are negative.
7/23/2015 02:46:00 PM
Awesome, well said!!!
Too many police on here only know what they know from the ghetto district they work in and then go hide in their houses in one of the police neighborhoods.
This is a big city. A lot more going on in it besides shootings.
You guys should live a little. You're wife would be happy. Maybe even reward your boring ass.
"Back in the '80s the gangsters used to almost always use .25s, .32s, .22s, and occasionally a .380 or 9mm. Now it starts at 9mm and goes up from there..."
7/22/2015 08:24:00 AM
Thank the gun control crowd with its "anti-Saturday Night Special" initatives and melt-point laws that eliminated cheap .22s like the famous RG revolver, zinc die-cast crap like a cap pistol or starter pistol. Now the s__t has up-gunned and things are more dangerous than ever.
"Too many police officers are negative."
7/23/2015 02:46:00 PM
...and realtors keep endlessly laboring at their air pump, inflating the next bubble.
"...just plane murder..."
I don't remember any black youth being killed on an airplane.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
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