Slow Response?
- Nearly a month after she was attacked in one of the city's most affluent neighborhoods in the middle of the day, Julia Evans is still shaken.
But that's not just because of the crime itself — Evans said what was most "appalling" was the slow police response. After being violently attacked by thieves, the 30-year-old waited more than an hour for officers to arrive on scene.
Have you complained to your aldercreature? How about the mayor?
- The young man grabbed her, hitting and scratching her across her arm and torso. Evans fought back, and the offenders walked away from the scene, stealing cash and medicine from her car in the process. No one came to her aid.
"They didn't run away. They nonchalantly walked away, almost like they hadn't done anything. Then I started screaming," she said.
Sobbing and bleeding, Evans immediately called 911 from her cell phone. After some trouble connecting to an operator, she said she told the responding operator that she was physically assaulted during a robbery and the offenders were fleeing the scene.
At that point, she was transferred to 311, or the city's nonemergency response system, which transferred the call back to 911, Evans said. An operator then indicated that police would be sent to the scene immediately, according to Evans.
Evans placed calls to 911 at 1:45 p.m, 1:47 p.m. and 1:55 p.m., according to her cell phone records. Then she waited.
"I was told by multiple 911 operators that someone was on the way," she said.
Finally, officers arrived on scene at 3:15 p.m., Evans said. They took a description of the men. She said she didn't seek medical attention at that point.
While we're sorry that this nice young lady had to go through the traumatic experience of being mugged and bruised, we'll just point out that we can't be everywhere, we can only arrive when dispatched in a timely manner, we've been complaining about the shortage of officers and cars for years now, and due to the reclassification of crime, if the offenders are gone and no one is dying, you're getting shunted to callback, plain and simple.
This is what Rahm wants and Garry has helped give him. We certainly hope you didn't vote for this, but it's what you got.
This is what Rahm wants and Garry has helped give him. We certainly hope you didn't vote for this, but it's what you got.
Labels: crime, department issues
posted by SCC at 12:11 AM
63 Comments:
but almost more so because I don't believe the police officers who are hired to serve and protect are doing that."
Then she corrected herself at the end of article and blamed the system.
Another one that lives in lala land of cool aid.
Just hope it's not one of our family members
This scum ass city, but none of us were drafted to this JOB
I know it had to be traumatic and stressful in the moment for her, but... what did she expect to be done? The criminals already left the scene. What will getting the police there 50 minutes sooner accomplish if they were gone in 2 minutes?
The solution is to get more cops on the street - hire hire hire. But of course, that doesn't fit rahm's agenda of having people hate the police in order to not worry about a public backlash from breaking the financial promises.
Then, how come we're being dispatched to bullshit calls like, loud music,somebody is arguing about their bar bill?
Does she live in a "quieter" district? You know the heavy tax paying based districts that don't call 911 as often and get stripped of manpower so that manpower can be sent to the ghetto? She should be good and pissed off and should relentlessly let Napolean and McGoofy know about it.
Boo hoo hoo...this never happened when I grew up in Naperville!
Every time a citizen gives up on waiting to report a crime, crime statistics get better.
Do you think Rahm and Garry really want to improve police response?
This is an example of the respect the city has for its citizen.
By respect, I mean total contempt and disregard it has for you.
What time was it dispatched?
Get your carry permit and be prepared to defend yourself!
How about shifting all those ghetto nonsense calls to 311? Those crimes involving "disrespect" or the "he's got to go" and all those civil matters.
According to the article, her cell phone records show calls to 911 at 1:45, 1:47, and 1:55. What is not posted here but later in the article there is a comment from the OEMC spokesperson saying they received a call at 1:58. If the records provided by the woman from her cell phone company confirm the three calls prior to the official statement from the city, why does the media not call the spokesperson out for lying?
Was this near my pretty loft? I hope not.
No keeses for 911.
Problem is, everyone DID vote for it! If people were so tired of the status quo than they should've sent the message! Forcing the runoff just made Rahm spend a little more free money!
the most offensive thing is being lied to. if there is no one to send, 911 should just tell them that. it is over and given the circumstances there is not much sending a cop to fill in a piece of paper is going to do anyway. if she needs medical attention send out an ambulance.
otherwise, tell her to go to the local police station and file a report.
what benefit is there to anyone for 911 to lie to her?
not a cop
I would have been there sooner. I had to stop my cruiser twice so I could cover up my tattoos before responding.
Don't worry -- while you are being assaulted, robbed, or murdered, your mayor and his family are safely being guarded by a full detail of officers 24/7. That's what's important, remember this. Now be a good non-violent, compliant, and hard working fully productive citizen and pay your ever increasing taxes.
How long was the response time when lil' rahm was robbed?
It said they were dispatched at 2:47pm, an hour after it happened and it probably came out as a battery just occurred. So, what's her beef with the cops?
Time to get your CCL and a nice .40 Caliber weapon and learn to use it and practice, practice, practice!
It is not the police job to be everywhere, especially in areas stripped of police officers, [over 125 officers gone from 019, promoted, transferred out, retired, died, etc..] over the last few years and not replaced] like what happened 019 District! It is impossible!
Shoot when attacked and often until offender does not move anymore!
I tell this to victims all the time, as I'm filling out useless victim reports [HY-123456], and they look at me like I have three eyeballs!
two teenagers approached a male subject North Ave Beach area grabbed him. subject fought back two teenagers attempted to take away subject's valuables but were met with resistance. Police also took an hour to show up. because the two subjects ran away after meeting resistance subject was told to get a report via 311. finally after switching back and forth the police actually showed up and completed a battery case report!
Welcome to the "new chicago police department".
1. "Units in 018 and on city were getting a robbery in progress"... first unit on the scene please advise.
2. slow down squad, Beat 2618 squad a got a flash message to send....wanted are two male teenagers, etc and direction of flight.
3. Attempt Robbery strong arm
4. Victim Information Notice
5. CLEAR.
Worked in 024. Got a beef for slow response time. Found dispatch sat on it 50 minute s. Wrote it into to-from response. Kicked back. Told to rewrite it, leave dispatch out of it. Did, no discipline.
At least the thieves had the decency to leave the victim her cell phone. It's a good thing she refused medical attention have you seen what the city is charging people these days for a ride to the hospital?!
Maybe the public should be informed what a rap/backlog means? Ohhhhhh...that would make politicians look bad.
Never mind. Everything is ok. Nothing to see here, move along.
Isn't this why we have concealed carry in Illinois?
Surprised they didn't then transfer her to the district by 311 after being transferred from 911 to 311
poor girl. keep voting democrat.
That's why all law abiding citizens should be armed....just remember, double tap.
"What will getting the police there 50 minutes sooner accomplish if they were gone in 2 minutes?"
7/03/2015 12:39:00 AM
"They didn't run away. They nonchalantly walked away, almost like they hadn't done anything."
Uh -- maybe have a chance of catching them strolling in the immediate area before they hop a bus or something?
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"The solution is to get more cops on the street." Yup. Then maybe you could do that.
Hiya, Rahm.
Anonymous said...
Isn't this why we have concealed carry in Illinois?
7/03/2015 10:22:00 AM
Once gain num nuts, three male 1's approach you. You know what is about to happen. But you can't just whip out your firearm and shoot them. Conceal carry is good but it is not a cure all.
Why in hell didn't this woman have a GUN?
I carry all the time. I have a 9mm in my car and another in my brief case and one in the desk at work.
No woman in AMERICA should ever be without a gun and the intelligence to use the damn thing.
How can she be so dumb? And I AM A WOMAN !!!!!
Since burglaries are basically an insurance matter, how long before one can just make their own report on line? After all, that's what most make a report for...
Call 911, they transfer you to 311, which transfers you back to 911, &c.
It's called "left standing there holding your, uh, private part."
We can fix this. Let's work on the police uniform some more. Here is the first public showing of The New Look.
http://tinyurl.com/noplqzo
SCC -- Attn. Rewrite Desk --
Make that "When seconds count, the police are only HOURS away."
You mean the "quieter district" that people transfer to and freely admit "I aint doing shit"? Let's be honest. This is a 2 fold problem, less man power and shitty attitudes about work.
Does she live in a "quieter" district? You know the heavy tax paying based districts that don't call 911 as often and get stripped of manpower so that manpower can be sent to the ghetto? She should be good and pissed off and should relentlessly let Napolean and McGoofy know about it.
Probably a northwestern journalism grad, write a fuckin blog about the horror
Isn't this why we have concealed carry in Illinois?
7/03/2015 10:22:00 AM
Exactly. Why didn't the thieves have guns? Not tactically sound.
If you would have called SWAT... You would still be waiting.
There's only one problem telling victims to get a CCW-our ILL law is watered down thanks to Maniac Madigan. If you ride CTA or Metra you can't carry. Jogging in the park-can't carry. Picking up kids at school-can't carry. Stopping at the corner diner that has a liquor license-can't carry. Most of us would give the CCW the benefit of the doubt - but there's always the officer who won't cut a person slack or is hungry for a gun pinch. Hey Maniac Madigan - you cut the Troopers budget so now even the expressways are becoming a firing range (20 incidents this year & counting) at least let CCW holders defend themselves.
I work the 10 hour day in 005..everyday i come out of roll call at 1600 and take 1a jobs with 2 hours on them ..the ex-o of patrol came to are roll call and when we told him this he reponded if the citizens dont like our reponse time telll them to move to florida
Using OEMC logic, no offender on the scene a homicide should be a 311 job.
When the police finally showed up were they wearing their hats that's all that matters
.45 ACP or .357 Magnum might have dissuaded the young scholars from robbing this young lady.
Nothing on news about this , tax payers receive little police protection .
The biggest gang of hoodlums could have been arrested years ago however, your incompetent/corrupt officers decided to "let them kill each other" and now countless thefts, assaults such as this and murders and more. It is not Garry's fault,he can not arrest everyone by himself.
Make double damn sure that if you that if you get a righteous citizen who defends his/her life or that of their family with a firearm that no shaky boss or A.S.A. railroads that person.
You don't look so well sir. Let us take you to the E.R. and you can call a lawyer before you talk to anyone and I do mean anyone.
They know how to get the poleese in the ghetto, "He got a gun, he say he gwine to kill some mother fuckers" "Shit, he got two guns now"
As a Detective I see purposeful misconstruction of crime sent through 311. That means no ET to process. No flash sent. No police response. No police canvas of the area. In progress calls are termed past tense and categorized wrong. The people working at 311 including the coppers can be numb skulls. Had a 91 year old victim burglarized twice in two months calling and asking why the police do not come to fingerprint or show up. Checked the CHRIS System and saw 311 making both reports no ET ordered. I called down and spoke to a supervisor who said the officers at 311 make the decision on an individual basis. Bullshit. I have yet to see a 311 report that included an ET responding.
This is good to know when I'm in the city.
So if I'm assaulted, when I call 911 I'll say that a cop is being assaulted. When the cops arrive a minute or 2 later (and I imagine there will be a shitload of them), I'll say that I was mistaken, that it turns out it wasn't a cop being assaulted, but me.
Problem solved.
Anonymous said...
At least the thieves had the decency to leave the victim her cell phone. It's a good thing she refused medical attention have you seen what the city is charging people these days for a ride to the hospital?!
7/03/2015 09:51:00 AM
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Only those with insurance get wacked with that $800 ambo fee
Us schmuck taxpayers foot the bill for all the others!
Anonymous said...
Don't worry -- while you are being assaulted, robbed, or murdered, your mayor and his family are safely being guarded by a full detail of officers 24/7. That's what's important, remember this. Now be a good non-violent, compliant, and hard working fully productive citizen and pay your ever increasing taxes.
7/03/2015 08:14:00 AM
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Rahm and his entourage jetted off to Aspen for the holiday weekendat taxpayers expense to attend some bs conference.
Who holds a legit conference on the 4th of July weekend?
311 blows everything off.....poorly managed. Civilianize the entire operation. Have your stripped PO section there but if it can't be civilianized than at least get coppers who want to be there. There are plenty of coppers who would love to hide there and do a decent job.
She called after they left that's why 311
She confronted the offenders instead of calling the police and stating it was in progress. Did she think the offender wouldn't attack when she grabbed him?
This is good to know when I'm in the city.
So if I'm assaulted, when I call 911 I'll say that a cop is being assaulted. When the cops arrive a minute or 2 later (and I imagine there will be a shitload of them), I'll say that I was mistaken, that it turns out it wasn't a cop being assaulted, but me.
Problem solved.
Then we'll arrest YOU for false police report, which I did to a young lady who tried that to get the police to come more quickly. Let's just say the judge was not kind to her as she jeopardized officer safety calling in a false 10-1. :)
It's all part of the new policy and procedure for reducing crime and claiming success each month. Force people into dire frustration and as they DON'T report their crime because it's so difficult...crime goes down and McNumbnuts get's a media bite.
The Mayor's son was robbed, that does not seem like they are too safe.
The biggest gang of hoodlums could have been arrested years ago however, your incompetent/corrupt officers decided to "let them kill each other" and now countless thefts, assaults such as this and murders and more. It is not Garry's fault,he can not arrest everyone by himself.
7/03/2015 04:25:00 PM
Every time we lock someone up we marvel at the number of arrests on their sheet. I cannot remember the last time I popped someone's cherry. You want to complain, look at the politicians and the courts. Every copper out here feels like Sisyphus pushing that boulder up the hill.
Retire cpd, it took 1 1/2 for the 8th dist to respond to a burglary in progress on the West end. I'm 73 yrs old and held this white asshole for the police at gun point. When the female Sgt. showed up, I was lectured that I'm no longer the police. While this dummy was still taking, I just walked away. Female Sgt. followed me to my residence yelling I wasn't listening to her. This is the last straw for me, On 10 July 2015 my home goes up for sale. It will be listed in the Garcia Ridge News Paper. Fuck this city, the speed, red light camera's and no place to park downtown.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
There's only one problem telling victims to get a CCW-our ILL law is watered down thanks to Maniac Madigan. If you ride CTA or Metra you can't carry. Jogging in the park-can't carry. Picking up kids at school-can't carry. Stopping at the corner diner that has a liquor license-can't carry. Most of us would give the CCW the benefit of the doubt - but there's always the officer who won't cut a person slack or is hungry for a gun pinch. Hey Maniac Madigan - you cut the Troopers budget so now even the expressways are becoming a firing range (20 incidents this year & counting) at least let CCW holders defend themselves.
7/03/2015 01:53:00 PM
As time goes by and these violent trends continue, more people
are going to come to where exercise of common-sense safety
and self preservation will override the will of cowardly and
traitorous politicians and the spineless rattle-minds who support
the insane notion of these gun-free zones.
As if Mistuh Criminal pays the "gun in a circle with a diagonal
slash through it" signs any mind.
>Security Footage After The Fact<
M/Fers pauses a beat by the door to pull their bandannas
up before doing a modern day Bogart/Bum-Rush/Dramatic
Entrance with guns "turnt on dey side."
Last m/fer in locks the m/fin' do' and it's on...
He's the hyena who usually grins directly at the camera.
No audio but it ain't hard to imagine the yellin', cryin', pistol whuppin',
prayin' and pleadin' along with the involuntary voiding of liquid and
solid bodily wastes redolent with the scent of terror.
No sound on the video at all...
But you can clearly see the muzzle flashes.
A sharp CCW carrier could perhaps lay out the gun & bandanna bunch
in the doorway like the pile of dog logs they are.
>Bell ringy sensation abounds because of concussive effect
of 1200 FPS 185 grain BONDED hollow point .45 ACP +P being lit off in an enclosed area<
Or some similar such packing 500+ ft./lbs
and purposed for THESE types of close, fast, vicious and extremely
ugly encounters with the young, strong, resilient and evil urban criminal
archetype with a particular wont for precipitating acts and responses like
this.
...Then get the fuck out of dodge because Rahm, Anita, McMooky, the media
and every clueless, ignorant, gun banning liberal/progressive tit would rather
weep in sympathy for righteously slain shitheads and ruin the person who did
society a great solid than applaud and support someone who took a stand.
Submit the bill for clean-up to the first ignorant ass who goes flapping their
unsecured cock-holster on the news about dead shitheads cut down in the
midst of "turnin' dey life around."
...an' shit.
Retire cpd, it took 1 1/2 for the 8th dist to respond to a burglary in progress on the West end. I'm 73 yrs old and held this white asshole for the police at gun point. When the female Sgt. showed up, I was lectured that I'm no longer the police.
Really...? That's another fine example of the new breed out there.
I'm 10 years younger, retired after 31 years and I salute you. It's in your blood. It's in your heart. And part of your passion. I'll bet you were a great P/O...
Some guys loose it and others have it until the day they die. Yet some guys never get any of that-you know those I'm talking about.
Who was the Sgt?
(C'mon...you must have said SOMETHING back to her?!?)
The bad guy-was he appropriately charged?
Great job and glad you're okay!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I would have been there sooner. I had to stop my cruiser twice so I could cover up my tattoos before responding.
7/03/2015 07:58:00 AM
We don't have cruisers in Chicago. Try again, troll.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Retire cpd, it took 1 1/2 for the 8th dist to respond to a burglary in progress on the West end. I'm 73 yrs old and held this white asshole for the police at gun point. When the female Sgt. showed up, I was lectured that I'm no longer the police. While this dummy was still taking, I just walked away. Female Sgt. followed me to my residence yelling I wasn't listening to her. This is the last straw for me, On 10 July 2015 my home goes up for sale. It will be listed in the Garcia Ridge News Paper. Fuck this city, the speed, red light camera's and no place to park downtown.
7/04/2015 11:00:00 AM
Retired or not, your more of a cop than that Sgt. will ever be.You played it our well. Be safe and thank you for your years of service.
I would have done the same thing. You rock at 73.
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