Here It Comes!
- Mayor Rahm Emanuel is set to call for the largest property tax increase in modern Chicago history to raise enough money to make a major pension payment for police and firefighters next year, the mayor's City Council floor leader and a City Hall source told the Chicago Tribune late Wednesday.
The mayor also plans to push a new garbage collection tax, a new per-ride fee on taxis and ride-hailing services such as Uber and a new tax on electronic cigarettes and smokeless tobacco products.
Ald. Patrick O'Connor, 40th, said the idea is to cut down on the annual budget hole that has plagued the city budget for years and further scale back some of the poor financial practices. That includes scoop-and-toss borrowing, in which the city takes debt that's coming due and kicks it out into the future at a higher cost. The administration also wants to put the police and fire pension systems on a road to solvency, he added.
We've got a money saving idea - don't let the head of your schools lay off a few dozen people claiming to save $1 million, then turn around and hire more middle managers at $1.2 million. In fact, you could page through the budget, a mind-numbing task in the best of times, and lay off hundreds of Assistant Directors, Personnel Managers, Assistant Secretaries, more than a few "deputies" throughout various departments and lord knows how many other middle management types who are redundant at best. Chicago government has a spending problem, not a money problem.
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posted by SCC at 1:03 AM
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Raise my real estate tax, if you must, because at least it's deductible on my federal tax form. Garbage fees, and whatever other nonsense this goof peddles, NOT deductible.
And before you do any of that, lay a grid system over the Chicago map, chop it up neatly and evenly among, say, thirty wards, and let's start cutting waste. Begin with the aldermen.
LMAO!
So if my taxes don't already go to my garbage pickup, who is paying Streets & San to take my trash?
Why stop at CPS when it comes to bureaucrats?
Cut back on the number of Aldermen and their staffs. Go from 50 to 20 or 25. That would be a significant cost-savings. Besides, it's not like all these people bring in a diverse perspective. Basically, it is a rubber-stamp organization so why not shrink the cost of that rubber-stamp authority?
No creative brainpower would be lost if you went down to 25 Aldermen. In fact, less people means less speeches and pontifications. It would make their job easier and faster to "get to a conclusion".
Raising taxes? That really makes Chicago a "I want to live there" city. Property taxes, sales taxes, - it just doesn't stop.
Like Trump says - too many Losers in government. Truer words were never spoken.
Calling the realtor tonight and putting house on the market. Suburbs here we come.
It's only a spending problem when the previous tax windfalls run out. Then it's time to find new things to tax. Then it's time to find new ways to spend. Vicious circle defined. Freaking scumbag Chicago politicians. How about, let's run the city the way you run your household. Is it THAT difficult to figure out? If you ain't got it, DON'T SPEND IT! And stop going to the taxpayer well, it WILL go dry one of these days.
Blue lives matter!
CHA budget is $800 million dollars a year. Unless you are elderly or severely disabled, no one should live rent free. Cut CHA's budget first !!
How about they don't spend $50. MILLION dollars for a Frick ing park
Can some one tell me exactly how many ppl are collection a pension right now?
and lay off hundreds of Assistant Directors, Personnel Managers, Assistant Secretaries, more than a few "deputies"
The only problem with that is the actual "bosses" would lose a layer of protection. Protection from actually having to do some work for their pay, one less spot for the wife's cousin's nephew to fill, and one less reason to have such a highly inflated operating budget, namely aldercreatures who are part-time local government legislators who are given over $70,000 in expenses beyond an office, three aides, and a salary over $100,000 plus benefits.
Why not just stop wasting tax money on those who don't work or care. Cut off welfare programs. (they had soup kitchens in the old days to feed the worthless)
Chicago voters were warned and yet only a small percentage of voters actually voted
Voters were warned that this would happen if they voted for Garcia because he "didn't have a plan".....O wait
I've been saying this for years.
It is a SPENDING PROBLEM.
Too many bs jobs.
I know of a commissioner that has 3 secretaries. Why?
Now mind you they all have some bs title, but they all still work directly for one commissioner doing the same job, so none of them are overworked.
Why does the police department still have two (at 90k a year) admin. mgrs.?
They do little or nothing more than what any po or sgt does.
Rein in all those bs jobs all over the city and there will be a significant savings.
He needs a forensic audit of all finances.
He needs to stop spending any and all tif funds.
He needs to stop all hiring.
Every middle and top manager needs a pay cut to no more than 125k per year.
This is government no private industry and the bs line that they need to be competitive in order to find the best and the brightest is bs because most of what is hired are the friends and family crew.
FLOP Should Say something......... ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
This will only make the public HATE the Police Even More
And what are the guarantee that the money will go directly to the police pension fund????
FLOP DeaNo should come out and Oppose this Tax
Ask Joe Barrios if Taxes are ever Fair
SCC, you're missing the point.
If all those well-paid, meaningless jobs disappear, so too go the power, prestige and kickbacks, the emoluments of holding political office.
Why, you're proposing to remove the entire point of going into politics! Oh, the horror! Shame on you.
/sarc off
Bastiat 150 years ago pointed out that the entire point of politics was to let some people live at the expense of others. Looking at Chicago and Illinois, he was as prescient as was George Orwell.
We've got a money saving idea - don't let the head of your schools lay off a few dozen people claiming to save $1 million, then turn around and hire more middle managers at $1.2 million. In fact, you could page through the budget, a mind-numbing task in the best of times, and lay off hundreds of Assistant Directors, Personnel Managers, Assistant Secretaries, more than a few "deputies" throughout various departments and lord knows how many other middle management types who are redundant at best. Chicago government has a spending problem, not a money problem.
This will not happen. Not ever. The fix is in, lets raise taxes but in the meantime let me hire my drinking buddies so when the increase comes they can afford to live in Chicago. Claypool cut his staff then turned around in a closed door meeting nonetheless and hired 5 drinking buddies from the CTA. Nice, fucking nice. Not one alderfool even protested. Not one. Like they are afraid to speak up about this bullshit. How many layers just in CPS alone are pulling down 6 figures but do not have any real authority but sit in meetings all damn day long? Not knocking the hustle but dont tax the fuck out of us, netflix tax, phone tax, cable tax, sugar tax, bottled water tax, garbage fees but hook your boys up with sweet gigs that pay pension and now for the chosen, increase it. Will someone step up and stop it, I doubt it. This is the reason many people stayed home during the elections.
Did Former Alderman (Cry Baby) Mary Oconnor get that Commissioner Job at Ohare yet?
Police and Fire have to live in the City
So
You'll be paying more on your property Just to receive it when you retire
Help me the City has a property tax or just the county?
They could say... direct the bulk of the TIF budget towards funding the pension instead of funding corporate welfare.
I know, I know, crazy talk.
The tax money is there and it is begging to be taken and used to get the City out of it's hole. Most people have more money than they really need and they waste it on unnecessary luxuries that they don't really need. Pay a lot more taxes, and get back to living the simple life with what money is left over. Help the City pay it's obligations.
Exactly. Cut spending. They never heard those words before.
So, where is the casino money going to go when it starts rolling in?.
I wonder how much the citizens can save by reducing some of the 50 aldermen? No more talk about that...
Impose a tax on renters.
Renters use more city services than homeowners.
People in Cook County pay less in Property Taxes then ANY other County in IL. for same valued house.
How is real property assessed in Cook County?
The required assessment level for tax purposes on a single-family home or condo in Cook County is 16% of the property’s Fair Market Value. The Fair Market Value is determined by the Cook County Assessor. The 16% assessment level also applies to smaller apartment buildings—those with six units and under.
How is real property assessed in Illinois?
The required assessment level for tax purposes on any parcel of real property in any County except Cook County is 33 1/3 percent of the property’s Fair Market Value, excluding farmland and farm buildings.
So homeowners in Cook County pay 1/2 as much on a home valued that same as anywhere else in IL.
http://www.yourillinoishome.com/financing/propertytaxes.htm
Education is a big business in Illinois. Just look at your property tax bill. Look at the salaries/benefits/time off of teachers and administrators and look at the pay and benefits of all employees of school districts throughout the state. Scandals? They are revealed almost daily. The College of DuPage for starters. Then the mayor of Harvey who was a school district superintendent paid 250,000 a year then took a buyout with a bonus of $250 grand and took his pension of almost 200 grand. By the way, the local school board is loaded with his family members. Ever wonder why Karen Lewis wants an elected school board in Chicago, the only district where the board is appointed? Look at the teacher pension sweeteners the last year of employment to boost their pension ands along with their compounded annual pension hike they soon make more in retirement then working. Lewis wants to control the school board which she soon would with workers and campaign funds aplenty to sway the vote. Yes, education is big business with way too many school districts and school boards that have little or no controls and hire friends and pass out contracts to friends. Then, the power of the strike so they can hold the communities by the throat for more and more. This state needs new laws to control this, but the democrats rake in to much campaign cash that it would not happen. Who new that education would be so profitable for the adults in the system, but not for the children? And, who do the teachers blame when the kids cannot read? Why the kids of course.
Cost savings.
Since the aldermen just rubber stamp everything the mayor wants why not replace them with train monkeys!! Monkeys could easily do that job.
Higher property taxes will actually be good for the city. Because it will drive out the poor from the city. The well educated professional class and wealthy people want to live in the city. Chicago offers an unparallaled access to fine dining, entertainment, sports, nightlife and culture. The mayor is brilliant; make city living too expensive for the poor so they are driven out and then the wealthy and professional class can move in.
Bend Over Thanks RHAMA
There's a budget crisis.
So what has Rahm been doing for the past 4 years?
Spending.
And your Aldermen in majority are approving the Spending so they can get slush funds...to hire & Spend.
It was Rahm who blasted Chuy for voting the highest tax increase during the Harold years.
It was Daley who started th mess and Rahm who can't steal fast enough.
Some reformer he turned out to be.
Tax the gyms and the nail cutters!
With all the taxes in the city and state, its time to move out of Illinois. Let the savages keep on destroying the city and the crooked politicians counting to steal money so they can justify raising all your taxes.
If your house is valued at $250,000 you're looking at $700 annual increase. Not good.
No one ever mentions a spending cut ever. Despite Chicago's population being down a good amount in the last 15 years, no one ever wants to cut back.
And I'm guessing that not one dime of this tax increase will see your pension obligation. It'll get spent on something stupid.
Rahn is able to blame the cops, fire fighters, medics and other city employees--they don't vote for Him.
There are still people who believe we don't pay anything towards our pensions
The Suntimes article mentions that for a $250,000 residential property the real estate tax increase will only be $500. This is mis-leading. What about the thousands of commercial, multi-family and industrial properties across the City that will face substantial property tax increases. This will only accelerate the relocation of business to Indiana and Wisconsin. Why remain here when your cost of operation can be substantially reduced by relocating? The City has a spending problem. Start cutting substantially and wasting City resources on the people and neighborhoods which don't pay taxes and demand City services.
Gee, lets start with the mayor. How much did he borrow just to fix up the riverwalk?
Nice place, but 100 Millions dollars?
Also, lets get rid of all these over priced managers and educators.
This is the first movement I see that he actually intends to pay the pension anything....But this is Chicago. Smoke and Mirrors? Get the Tax raises and Garbage Collection fees, and squander that money on Pet projects? The FOP had better remain vigilant here, or we lose it all. No time for complacency fraternal brothers.
Maybe the City could get someone how to suggest business practices that wouldn't allow 1 low-level (did she even need to go to college to figure out this scheme?) clerk to steal 3/4 of a million dollars in less than a decade: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-city-hall-clerk-guilty-met-20150414-story.html
And what kind of contracts are written that allow injured personnel to collect disability while being able to work some other job? If they are collecting money from the taxpayers, they should be working for the taxpayers, even if they cannot perform all their previous duties.
Perhaps it would be prudent for one of the Alderman to call for an independent forensic accounting of the budget and spending going back at least to the beginning of Daley's last term. I mean what's there to hide.
Amazing they could find money to fund all the various projects that pop up without raising taxes, but they can't find money to fund our pensions without raising our taxes
If there was any justice in this, the most politically corrupt major city in the nation, Richard M. Daley should be lawfully and publicly beheaded by guillotine next to the Picasso this Saturday at high noon. For the thousands of Chicagoans unable to attend, provide pay TV access.
Give him the option of avoiding the guillotine by being drawn and quartered at Pearson and Michigan. Free Garrett's popcorn and beverages for the witnesses at Jane Byrne Park.
I think there are two issues. One is the waste that goes on in city government. You are 100% right SCC, the budgets should be addressed. i think of the movie Dave where the fake president Dave brought in his own accountant, someone from outside, who first couldn't believe how messed up the Federal Budget was and then was able to find all kinds of wasted money. Second, we actually do need a property tax hike. I would defiantly like to see a budget overhaul before any tax increase, something like the Governor is doing, but it isn't going to happen. The fact is that Daley and Rahm have bee so worried about getting re-elected that committed acts of negligence by padding the budget with projects meant for special interest groups and not making necessary cuts; and not raising property taxes. Everything gets taxed to take the place of the property taxes that weren't imposed making the business environment in Chicago very unfriendly. Small increases in property taxes over the years, even a dollar or two per household per year would have been preferable to the tax on everything that is driving business out of the city and having to get hit with a large property tax increase now.
I still cant believe know one or the media doesn't report on how we have 50 alderman collecting life time pensions after four years. Why do we still have 50. How about One alderman per each police district..
Ah !!! How is the first bite of the Mikey Special shit sandwich tasting? What the media is not including is the fact that this increase is only for the city portion of your property tax bill. As a proportion of your tax bill, the school levy is the highest and the CPS tax levy is going up too. Probably at a proportional rate of increase, so you are looking at a $1,000 to $1500 increase for a $250,000 house. This is the first year of several years of this type of increase.
The best part is that the failure of the labor bill override and the failure to provide CPS with extra state funding is all kabuki theater by Madigan and Rauner to provide political cover for Rahmulus. Expect a 125% to 150% increase in property taxes in Chicago by the time this is done. Let the death spiral commence.
The only hope for Chicago residents is that the real plan might be to allow CPS to declare bankruptcy, which will probably lower the increase over five years by half.
Stay tuned for the State wide tax increase which will be the next phase of this Illinois politics cluster-fuck.
They bigger make it a bigger tax hike, they forget about all the civil rights lawsuits--- but they may as well debit the pay outs to the police pensions
And Richard Daley is still a free man...
The public school system in many parts of the country is overloaded with management. I suppose Chicago is one more. Privatizing schools with vouchers is one solution. The problem is how to get the politicians to do it
"In fact, you could page through the budget, a mind-numbing task in the best of times, and lay off hundreds of Assistant Directors, Personnel Managers, Assistant Secretaries, more than a few "deputies" throughout various departments and lord knows how many other middle management types who are redundant at best." -- SCC
You got that right, my man. All the "coordinators" and "facilitators" and "liason officers" and "assistant directors," you name it. Got to go. All the no-bid "outside consultants" and Tony Robbins "train-the-trainers" types and other parasites.
No more skate ribbons and waterfalls and street signs you can hardly read and rubber bumps and go-arounds and "facade rebates" for rich property owners and "bungalow subsidies" and "street art" and banners and hundreds of miles of non-functional, high-maintenance steel fencing and useless, hazardous diamond-sawed "drain grooves" and "peoplespaces" and all this other crap.
Keep the lights on, fill the potholes, repair the water mains, plow and salt in winter, and provide basic services to sustain a working city. That costs enough money right there without all this artist's-conception Potemkin Village crap tacked on.
Lipstick on a pig.
Finish geometrically gridding-out the trash pickup system, reorganize the wards along those to-be-permanent boundaries so as to cut out the gerrymandering and the endless racial power struggles, and then get rid of at least half the aldermen.
Stabiility is the last thing all these people want. "Doesn't matter whether it's going up or going down, as long as it's going" Like the ones hovering around the edges of a tavern brawl, looking to put their foot on a loose wallet, or slide a nice leather jacket off someone's stool and slip quietly out the door in the commotion.
Poetic justice in using garbage as a starting point for clearing out garbage, huh?
...not to mention stop wasteful spending on such luxury items such as college stadiums, another downtown park, etc.
--No Cop Here
They raise taxes then they should lift residence. We shouldn't be forced to live in the city and have to pay higher taxes and services, when we could move into the burbs and get more bang for our buck and less crime
forensic audit
Calling the realtor tonight and putting house on the market. Suburbs here we come.
9/03/2015 06:07:00 AM
Have you ever seen the property taxes in the nice suburbs? Unless you're taking advantage of sending kids to suburban public schools, I doubt you'll be thrilled with the property taxes anymore than what's in Chicago.
Off topic but there is a upcoming election for the pension board approaching and I would hope this great venue would please keep us updated on the potential candidates and even a public endorsement of a candidate. This is a serious position and the more info out there is best to guide officers in electing someone. Currently Mike Lappe holds the position.
OT
After only a couple weeks of keeping clean, our favorite go is home again today.
Let's see how many days in a row see stays home.
The way things are going, why not just face the music? Instead of being nickle-and-dimed to death with a million different taxes, reduce it to just one and call it what it really is: The "I Live in Chicago" tax. Once it has the real name (instead of masquerading behind words like 'garbage collection tax' or 'e-cig tax' or 'sugary drink tax') let's see how many people decide they want the "privilege" of "living" in Chicago compared to elsewhere.
Well at least we pissed away that $325k on VIP buffered bike lanes down Milwaukee.
Lift the residency. I want out. We can't even send our kids to decent public schools for all the money we pay in taxes.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Calling the realtor tonight and putting house on the market. Suburbs here we come.
9/03/2015 06:07:00 AM
This is NOT the time of year to seek top dollar. Selling your biggest asset shouldn't be an emotional decision; it should be well planned for maximum profit.
Unless you live within three blocks of the new, hot, hipster, overpriced, idiotic Bloomingdale 606, you should wait til Spring. (My aunt's house nearby doubled in value in the last three years. People are literally begging to buy it.)
Spend the next few months updating and clearing out clutter, donate extra clothes and appliances for the 2015 tax break, pass along grandma's furniture in the basement, lose any weird-color walls... then hit the market hard on 01 March.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
...not to mention stop wasteful spending on such luxury items such as college stadiums, another downtown park, etc.
--No Cop Here
9/03/2015 11:39:00 AM
Mention it.
KEEP mentioning it.
Anonymous The Neanderthal said...
"In fact, you could page through the budget, a mind-numbing task in the best of times, and lay off hundreds of Assistant Directors, Personnel Managers, Assistant Secretaries, more than a few "deputies" throughout various departments and lord knows how many other middle management types who are redundant at best." -- SCC
You got that right, my man. All the "coordinators" and "facilitators" and "liason officers" and "assistant directors," you name it. Got to go. All the no-bid "outside consultants" and Tony Robbins "train-the-trainers" types and other parasites.
No more skate ribbons and waterfalls and street signs you can hardly read and rubber bumps and go-arounds and "facade rebates" for rich property owners and "bungalow subsidies" and "street art" and banners and hundreds of miles of non-functional, high-maintenance steel fencing and useless, hazardous diamond-sawed "drain grooves" and "peoplespaces" and all this other crap.
Keep the lights on, fill the potholes, repair the water mains, plow and salt in winter, and provide basic services to sustain a working city. That costs enough money right there without all this artist's-conception Potemkin Village crap tacked on.
Lipstick on a pig.
Finish geometrically gridding-out the trash pickup system, reorganize the wards along those to-be-permanent boundaries so as to cut out the gerrymandering and the endless racial power struggles, and then get rid of at least half the aldermen.
Stabiility is the last thing all these people want. "Doesn't matter whether it's going up or going down, as long as it's going" Like the ones hovering around the edges of a tavern brawl, looking to put their foot on a loose wallet, or slide a nice leather jacket off someone's stool and slip quietly out the door in the commotion.
Poetic justice in using garbage as a starting point for clearing out garbage, huh?
9/03/2015 11:32:00 AM
Love the last line, especially.
Are you a single, straight male? I'd love to meet you.
That was meant for 11:32 am. (Not that I don't think you're special, too, SCC.)
maybe he should quit building basketball arenas, boat launches and parks we don't need and use that money for teachers, police and pensions....
CHICAGO , Where you don't want too live. I was proud once to live there I'm glad I no not anymore . Vote dem Dems OUT !!!!!!
Again blame it on the pensions of those horrible first responder's! When is he going to take responsibility for years of financial mismanagement and sweetheart deals with clout heavy types. Did they really need a new stadium for Depaul? Maggie Daley park? Nope they sure didn't...............But blame those who serve and protect.
Stop bitching, you're going to pay the taxes until you retire! No one can change it
Chicago has a getting citizens who are productive, intelligent and paying taxes problem. Most of the good citizens have moved because of the gangs robbing, raping and brutalizing them, now, there is no one to pay the mayor and the "aldercreatures' salary, so they raise taxes because they are going to get theirs, no matter what.
"Why not just stop wasting tax money on those who don't work or care. Cut off welfare programs. (they had soup kitchens in the old days to feed the worthless)"
9/03/2015 06:44:00 AM
Aim higher. You want the one in the monogrammed leather swivel chair pulling $125,000 a year; looking at porn, and always "in a meeting." You'd save $10,291.66/month, instead of taking some (possibly genuinely needy and struggling elderly person's) food stamps @ maybe $125.00 month.
Oh...and the "worthless" in the old days might have meant your folks, who could not find work in the Depression. Skilled and industrious people, many of them, thrown into the street by circumstances beyond their control.
Gonna spit, spit on the rich and connected and useless. Do us all a power more of good.
Stay safe, my friend. God bless.
Why don't all of the "smart politicans" use Donald Trump's logic and start sending the illegals back to their home country. See if you can figure out the money savings from educating, medicating, and paying their living expenses?
Thank God i saved and didnt buy that new SUV every 3 to 4 years or put another house on top of my existing home!
"And Richard M. Daley is still a free man..."
9/03/2015 11:07:00 AM
...at least until the Devil comes to collect after Daley's grabber, and ushers him across the Styx into the underworld, where Work Position # 37 has already been reserved for him at Satan's mile-long bank of metallurgical coke ovens.
http://tinyurl.com/pm8x3wn
Here is your 80-pound, 25-foot-long steel hook. Get going.
A contract is a contract -- right? Guy with the tail and cloven hooves fulfilled it right to the dotted "i" and crossed "t" during the temporal, during Hizzoner's brief stay among us. Now the "eternal" clause kicks in.
Da Mare's supervisors will all be the dead from St. Johannes Cemetery which he dug up and some folks from Bensenville -- which he half-destroyed -- as well, working from a nice air-conditioned control booth.
"Hell is never what you think it's going to be."
-- The Twilight Zone
Anonymous said...
Police and Fire have to live in the City
So
You'll be paying more on your property Just to receive it when you retire
9/03/2015 07:59:00 AM
HUH???
fuck this, if I'm paying even more for CPS than I'm moving and finding a good CPS school to put my kids in to reap some of my tax dollars. I was going to go Catholic but after Fr. PHAKER and what the new Cardinal said about police at his church sermon, no more. Remove pflager and I'll reconsider. The Catholic church better say something or be worried about attendance.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Can some one tell me exactly how many ppl are collection a pension right now?
9/03/2015 06:34:00 AM
Including widows/spouses pensions (cuz I ain't counting all of them) the total is 50,474 receiving a pension from the police fund. (Yep, over 50 Thousand recipients.)
Cook county has one of the lowest property tax rates in IL. It should have been raised long ago.
http://www.rebootillinois.com/2014/03/13/uncategorized/brendanbond/list-residential-property-tax-rates-illinois-county/2303/
Can we lobby to reduce the 50 alderman to half the amount? Any connections in Springfield?
You can make a few million $$$....just make all those fakers buy city stickers. All these people live here. They have their autos registered in Indiana,Ohio, Wisconsin and the suburbs. Yuppie whiners pulling scams
Tax Suburbanites that come and work in Chicago!!
Raise Bilboards FEEs Now only $200.00
Eliminate 25 of 50 Aldercreatures!!!! NOW that alone Saves Millions
Create Parking meters at all beaches!!! Millions to be made
Stop giving away tax breaks to companies!
Charge George Lucas for the City Land!!!!!!
Tax gym memberships! Just $5 a year would raise thousands
Eliminate the Landscapers that have to plant Cut and Water All the flower boxes and Median strips Gee How much does that contract make?????
Have Rhama Hire and pay for his own massive security Detail and BS Command Post
Multi Millionary sucking off the Public Teet
Remember Taxes Never Go away ******Only Increase
All this but FLOP is SILENT Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Now Under Rhama's Plan public hates the PoPo even more
They raise taxes then they should lift residence.
-Hey WHOs dumb enough to buy your house if youre leaving cause of TAXES
DAH!
Fight the TAX don't shift focus to BS
.not to mention stop wasteful spending on such luxury items such as college stadiums, another downtown park, etc.
--No Cop Here
AMEN Why does DePaul need Chicagoan's money?
Make DePaul Pay
Tax the liquor stores in Chicago.
Only way to get at dude's money.
If your house is valued at $250,000 you're looking at $700 annual increase. Not good.
Interesting how this snake waited until 2015 after the cook county assessor's office sent people the new market values of their homes. Just in time for when a lot of people's homes in Beverly/Mt. Greenwood/Clearing/Garfield Ridge just shot up a little bit over $250,000 he thinks up this tax. Fucking snake!! He says fuck the middle class. You must say fuck you back and do your shopping and gassing up in the suburbs. Textbook asshole cocksucker politician.
I still don't believe that Alderman have zero skin in this game!
The City Council should be cut in half to 25, ASAP! Outright thievery by Rahm and Company!
Move to Niles
"They raise taxes then they should lift residence. We shouldn't be forced to live in the city and have to pay higher taxes and services, when we could move into the burbs
The very reason the residency restriction was created was to ensure the city a guaranteed source of tax revenue...City employees.
Sure, we'll bitch and moan. But in the end, we aint quittin the job, or refusing to pay whatever tax the come up with. So, like it or not, oil up & bend over...again.
There goes a few VRI checks
Anonymous said...
Higher property taxes will actually be good for the city. Because it will drive out the poor from the city. The well educated professional class and wealthy people want to live in the city. Chicago offers an unparallaled access to fine dining, entertainment, sports, nightlife and culture. The mayor is brilliant; make city living too expensive for the poor so they are driven out and then the wealthy and professional class can move in.
Yes Sir! I have been eyeing a few vacant lots in Englewood!! That should work out,,,,right?
8:49 am. You may be partially right about some of the powers that be's motive but you are a douchbag as well. You think they're only driving the poor out, guess again! Try the middle class as well! Upper and lower! The south side is on its way to being complete shit and the north side isn't far behind. The only areas that will be "family decent" will be areas that no unclouted city employee can afford unless your ready for cat food for dinner and other cuts! Fuck this city!
The story should be about the terrible job Mayor Daley did for 26 years. He is the only person to blame. 26 years to be king is a very very very long time! He controlled everything. He caused the mess. Just think about how long 26 years is and how sick that is. People should be furious with him. Now he sits back with all his $$$ and washes his hands with the city. What a terrible mayor.
Where are the plans to reduce expenses????
Gee who would think that a tax and spend deomcratic mayor would propose tax and spend policies?
They shouldn't even mention the names "Police and Fire" pensions. It's irrelevant. They had nothing to do with it and paid into it every pay check. Politicians(mainly Daley) mismanaged the fund. Politicians are the sole cause of problems in america. Rot in hell Daley! You had control for 26 years. You did this. How's your pensions?
The Morons should make Chicago Competitive,GAS... BOTTLED WATER...ALCOHOL...FUCK IT I'LL JUST SHOP ON AMAZON...
TIF funds. 3 years and the "pension crisis" created by dirty filthy lying politicians would be over.
Remember Chuy's Highest Tax Ever
This will come back to Bite Rhama When he runs for the Senate and not reecltion
Cops and fire should be exempt from the hiring of taxes since we have to live in the city. Were the only department that has to live where we work. In today's day with everyone being politically correct. Its unconstitutional for somebody to tell you where to live. This needs to be changed. Its an outdated mandate of the chicago police department.
OK it's a small start but not enough to catch up to the deficit Daley and his scum created. With the track record of corrupt Chicago politicians how are we to believe a tax increase will go to the promised pension fund? They seem to have the money for every other pet project so how do we know they will keep their promis and not spend it on other BS?
9/3 8:49
Hey dumb ass, while you think it will only be the rich and glamorous (snicker) SECTION 8 will be renting that shit and still scavenging through your neighborhoods sizing up your routes, watching who's alert and who's a victim. Ha ha ha you won't see it until sadly it will be too late. It's already happening
We would buy a ticket to see Christy Webber kicked in her ass
and forced to personally tear out every median planter in town.
Talk about a total fucking waste of taxpayer money.
The damned things are leaking underground and causing cave-ins
across the width of entire streets.
Driven Western or Ashland lately?
Same thing with those fucking round-abouts that people STILL can't seem to figure.
The best ever was when some asshole drove through a fresh one just off Madison St.
That one ton cast iron collar on which the man hole cover rests, jumped up and tore
the ass, dick and balls from underneath his car...
Sitting just shy of Madison in a puddle of oil and coolant...
The aftermath was just all kinds o' funny.
Those obnoxious curb bump-outs.
And the stupidest shit that makes us crack a tooth at the gum line
if we dwell on it?
Those fucking ersatz cobblestone paver cross-walks!
Who thee fuck said that was a good idea?
Oh, and those rubber mat things they're laying at the wheel chair
curb cuts nowadays.
Fuckery and "Busy-ness" while nobody can get anywhere fast in this town.
And synchronize the lights already and set a sensible speed limit for cryin' out loud!
Hey Jagoff,Put the blame on Police and Fire,We put more into our Pension than all other City or State Workers,Daley should be in prison for making his regular guys into Gold Coast Millionaires.
Calling the realtor tonight and putting house on the market. Suburbs here we come.
9/03/2015 06:07:00 AM
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I'm sure you made your comment in jest, but the suburban tax rate actually is much higher than Chicago's. Please think before you speak.
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20150903/NEWS02/150909907/chicagos-giant-tax-increase-still-wont-eclipse-the-burbs
It's time to leave chicago, but not sure where to move.
Any sugguestions?
Did anybody ask this asshole about his TIF funds
How much are in them?
Why do you have to contribute to his campaign to get funds?
How much and to whom has he pissed away so far?
Chicago dosent have a cash problem it has politicians spending problem
Cut down the city council to 10 Alderman. LA only has 7 and covers a much larger geographic area!
How about cutting the city council down to 3 aldermen
We could have :
Area North
Area Central
Area South
Aldermen will be renamed :
Deputy Mayor
Vice Mayor
Vice Lords
City Czars
Whatever the want to be called
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It's time to leave chicago, but not sure where to move.
Any sugguestions?
9/04/2015 12:00:00 AM
Many places but I won't mention them publicly because they are nice places, few of the ghetto rat democrats we know so well around here. Hint: stay away from Baltimore, Philadelphia, D.C., Atlanta, NYC, St Louis, Ferguson, you get the idea. Idaho is good, Washington State away from Seattle, Look around.
Anonymous said...
If your house is valued at $250,000 you're looking at $700 annual increase. Not good.
Interesting how this snake waited until 2015 after the cook county assessor's office sent people the new market values of their homes. Just in time for when a lot of people's homes in Beverly/Mt. Greenwood/Clearing/Garfield Ridge just shot up a little bit over $250,000 he thinks up this tax. Fucking snake!! He says fuck the middle class. You must say fuck you back and do your shopping and gassing up in the suburbs. Textbook asshole cocksucker politician.
9/03/2015 06:11:00 PM
This is the ARC finally taking effect. That law was passed under Daley. Ever go to FOP meetings? The City knew for over 5 years this bill would come due. So now, surprise surprise. Blame it on police and fire, not rat Daley.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The story should be about the terrible job Mayor Daley did for 26 years. He is the only person to blame. 26 years to be king is a very very very long time! He controlled everything. He caused the mess. Just think about how long 26 years is and how sick that is. People should be furious with him. Now he sits back with all his $$$ and washes his hands with the city. What a terrible mayor.
9/03/2015 08:10:00 PM
Oh, yes, it's 'only' Daley's fault. Not Madigan or Cullerton or Mell or Walsh Construction or the Pritzkers or Msall, the great pontificator. And it certainly isn't Rahm's responsibility; he's ONLY HAD FOUR AND A HALF YEARS in office.
Get your head out of the sand. Emanuel not only hasn't done anything positive, he's spending us into Hell and beyond. Someone, anyone, take the checkbook away from this madman. Make him understand the ACCOUNT IS EMPTY. Stop spending. Period. Stop. Spending.
My house was just looted and my money is stolen from my wallet. It was all over the news in Chicago today.The person who did it is well known in City of Chicago. He even stated that he going to do it on Television. The Guys name is Mayor Rahm Emanuel. If you see him in person he is about 5'08 Grey Hair.about 140 Lbs. Missing a finger or two.Kinda looks like a thieve. And kinda uses a Used Car Salesman approach. He talks nice as he digs for your wallet. As for the killings and shooting in chiraq its becoming a sporting event in the news everyday.The Mayor is the biggest threat to the Property Tax Payers who have to fund the Sporting event in Chiraq
I'm sure you made your comment in jest, but the suburban tax rate actually is much higher than Chicago's. Please think before you speak.
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20150903/NEWS02/150909907/chicagos-giant-tax-increase-still-wont-eclipse-the-burbs
9/03/2015 11:32:00 PM
That's called "economy of scale". The City has millions of people paying taxes. The average suburb has thousands. Econ 101.
Forget the suburbs. They can be even worse. Lake County has the highest real estate taxes in Illinois, which makes it one of the highest in the nation.
Leaving Illinois is the only solution.
And for all you Rauner haters on this board, you should know he's trying to freeze property taxes:
https://www.illinoispolicy.org/illinois-homeowners-pay-the-second-highest-property-taxes-in-the-u-s/
When I moved out of the city 3 years ago, the moving company rep told me they were swamped with moving people out of IL and barely moving anyone in. It wasn't the first time I heard that either, and I can imagine it's only gotten worse. People primarily moving to FL, AZ and TX.
It's so nice living somewhere without the corruption of Chicago and IL. Not to mention in a polite and civilized society.
Near the beach or in the mountains. South Carolina is beautiful.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The Morons should make Chicago Competitive,GAS... BOTTLED WATER...ALCOHOL...FUCK IT I'LL JUST SHOP ON AMAZON...
9/03/2015 09:17:00 PM
Amazon soon to be taxed as well.
Whoa everyone. Let's slow down and start to read and comprehend. The $400-500 bucks for a $250,000 home is the city's cut. That DOES NOT include tax increases proposed by the county and/or the schools. We all could be looking at about $1,000 per year increase in overall property tax, not to include the garbage, pop, and e-cigarette fees that are also proposed. Your buying power just took a dump.
It's time to leave chicago, but not sure where to move.
Any sugguestions?
cicero
How about taxing on the square footage of the property and the home or business it sits on. Be fair across the board. The ghetto pays nothing compared to the civilized neighborhoods. And for Christ sake quit building parks for thieves like Maggie Daley. $50 million could of gone to use somewhere else.
>>>Anonymous said...
The Morons should make Chicago Competitive,GAS... BOTTLED WATER...ALCOHOL...FUCK IT I'LL JUST SHOP ON AMAZON...
9/03/2015 09:17:00 PM<<<
Didn't AMAZON open a Chicago brick and mortar store and start charging Chicago's highest sales tax in the country? I bought something at a Chicago Home Depot for the first time in ages a few days ago and they put my purchases in a paper sack. I haven't seen those since I was a kid. I cross Harlem avenue and the taxes on my groceries drop to about 2.75%.
Oliver Wendell Holmes said that taxes is how we pay for civilization. In Chicago it is how we pay for corruption.
After the bombshell tax announcement, Mayor Rahm Emanuel made a scheduled public appearance at Wright College to engage in community outreach concerning the budget, spending cuts and tax increases. The Chicago Police Department spent four hours in preparing security for the event. The Fire Department chipped with a fire truck and ambulance for good measure. Irate citizens swore at the mayor during the public session, including one audience member who predicted that people would begin moving out of the city as a result of the tax increases. Others reminded the mayor that Chicago has a spending problem rather than a shortage of revenue raising techniques and taxes.
Ironically, Rahm has used the City Colleges of Chicago as a cookie jar for graft and patronage hiring. The colleges, unlike some city departments, has cash on hand to waste, so the connected are busily constructing new buildings and facilities that are probably not going to produce any positive results for anyone of other than the contractors. One of the City College patronage hires is Emanuel's own brother-in-law, Laurent Pernot, another individual with no background in higher education administration. He has received multiple salary increases after being tapped as an executive vice president. The lucrative and wasteful City Colleges shuttle bus service contract is a miniature "Hired Trucks" scandal. The hourly shuttle buses are scarcely utilized and operate on routes that duplicate CTA bus services.
Property tax may be higher in the burbs but you get more house for the dollar. Not to mention EVERYTHING is cheaper out there on a day to day basis. Im shocked Cigarettes are even selling in chicago anymore when you get 2 for the price of one right across the street near the airport.
This city is shit, the criminals, the whinny yuppies moving in, the politicians Adios chicago! jobs are a dime a dozen outside the city limits and very easy to get.
Hey why no start putting a fucking tax on liqour that will solve the issue instead you'd rather tax surgery drinks and smokes. Oh wait thats right if you tax liquor then it effects politicians.
And for you Officers and first responders out there take a look at a lateral move to another department you'd be making more money then you are in the city, deal with less shit then you do now and may even enjoy life little more.
Perhaps I can retire one year early. I'm not sticking around one last year and one day for the maximum benefit it only translates to $100 per month over the expected dollar amount in benefits! April 2018! Adios Amigos, I'm out of here!
Gold Beach, Oregon?
No reason for a tax increase at all! Tif money, bike lanes, expanded river walk, lake shore drive navy pier reconstruction, DePaul, more parks, close schools only to open more, 606 trails, on and on cut cut cut save save save! The Daley crew stole our pension money Daleys kid Patrick and cousin vanecko took over 60 million lost it all what idiots at the pension board allowed this? Why are they and Daley crew not indicted? Maybe God willing when Trump takes office he will unleash Feds on city hall and state house arrest these criminal scumbags!
>>>Anonymous said...
Why don't all of the "smart politicans" use Donald Trump's logic and start sending the illegals back to their home country. See if you can figure out the money savings from educating, medicating, and paying their living expenses?
9/03/2015 03:38:00 PM<<<
Those ILLEGALS are all Democrats and will vote how they are told to vote. Speaking of which, may of those 65,000 illegal teenagers that Obama snuck in from Mexico and Central America and hid in places like Misericordia should be hitting voting age soon. Most Cops don't bother to vote.
ok you will be paying a little more on your property tax but when you retire you can move out and have your full pension which will make it up in no time. better than not paying more tax now and only having half pension when you retire? The money has got to come from somewhere.750 more on a 250,000 house. a little bit of overtime will take care of that. The property tax is still lower than the suburbs. I know everyone screams when they have to pay more the the big picture is keeping your pension the way it is. That is the most important!
This is gonna hurt EVERYONE. Whether you rent or own, your monthly housing cost is going up. I'm stretched as is. This is gonna be ugly.
Daley should be tarred & feathered for kicking the can down the road and creating this mess! So should a lot of our "leaders," come to think of it.....
Every Mayor since 1931 has been a Rat.
How's that working out for ya?
Anonymous said...
Impose a tax on renters.
Renters use more city services than homeowners.
9/03/2015 08:35:00 AM
Pretty smart idea ... renters have a choice though and can simply move to another town after a year. Didn't see that one coming, did ya?
Quotes from Fridays Tribune have Rahm saying that he needs this property tax increase to pay back money owed to the Pensions plans of police who deserve their pensions, yet this SNAKE is trying to FUCK with the pensions, now is the time for every police organization like FOP, PBPA, and any others to take full page adds out declaring this BULLSHIT, it is also necessary that all police and fire call or stop into your aldermans office and urge him or her not to approve this hike, our streets look like crap, Condos in every area of the city look like crap, and illegal trucks parked everywhere. We as city workers or retired workers do have a voice, don't pussy out and be afraid of your alderman, tell them flat out what you expect from them!!!!!!!!
I moved out of Chicago 10 years ago when I retired. My property taxes are now 6200.00 and I was just given a 850.00 increase which will put me over 7 grand. I was also just reassessed with a 20% increase. I would gladly sell my house for what Berrios says it is worth. And, I have a small townhome. The tax rate in Chicago is one of the lowest in the country, especially in minority areas. And, if you want some fun, look at what the political class is paying in property taxes ( look at Burke for starters). I have a friend who lives in Will county and is paying 12 grand a year. Our 7000 units of government in this state have a spending problem.
The city should raise the taxes on every store that sells rolling papers, smokes and any other branded item that is paid for with a LINK card. these store owners are snakes, they make tons of money and cry that they are the only people who set up in high crime areas. Also license all of these street corner vendors. I know that the Aldermen will cry foul and that it is a cultural experience, but these carts are not clean, who knows what these vendors touch all day, I don't ever buy from them but they are not paying any taxes on their profits. Increase parking tickets and moving violation fines, screw the judges that think that the police are justing messing with people, make these fools that want to terrorize the streets by driving like idiots pay, they want to race around the city, well make them pay when they get caught, what do they contribute to society!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous said...
TIF funds. 3 years and the "pension crisis" created by dirty filthy lying politicians would be over.
9/03/2015 09:27:00 PM
People who believe such as you do is part of the problem. There is a real pension crisis and a real lack of money in the city. The teachers union believed such as you until given a copy of an audit by Ernst and Young. Now, they know that there is a real cash and pension crisis. The worst managed and funded pensions in the US of A.
Anonymous said...
Why don't all of the "smart politicans" use Donald Trump's logic and start sending the illegals back to their home country. See if you can figure out the money savings from educating, medicating, and paying their living expenses?
9/03/2015 03:38:00 PM
Remember.......we are a sanctuary city.
What happened to the casino, that would payoff the pensions, Rambo promised last year when he was running for mayor?
I heard him, on WTTW Chicago Tonight, say raising property taxes was the absolute last thing he would do.
And you can actually send your kids to the public schools there for your tax dollars..think before you type.
Sure the city taxes may be lower than some suburbs but at least you don't have to deal with a ton of the bullshit we have here. I know I don't even need to say what's at the top of the bullshit list.
12:00 am.- I'm a fan of the southwest suburbs myself. Out around orland, palos, tinley, homer. There's shit everywhere but I guess it depends on each individuals shit preferences over the other. And the level of shit you prefer to handle.
More money wasted pay the pension first rahm before you create more bills!
CHICAGO — Twelve years ago, then Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley, citing security concerns following the 9/11 terror attacks, sent backhoes to carve X’s into the Meigs Field runway on Northerly Island.
A 40-acre park will open Friday on the southern half of the 91-acre site that in the 1930s hosted the Century of Progress Exposition before it became an airport.
The city spent $9.7 million to build the park, which features man-made hills, a 5-acre lagoon and a winding bike and pedestrian trail. The cost was covered by $6.3 million in federal funds and $3.4 million from the Chicago Park District.
Northerly Island is actually a peninsula linked by a land bridge that leads to the Adler Planetarium, the Shedd Aquarium and the Field Museum.
Cmon guys it's only 3 day of vri! You don't need to spend time with your family. Just work harder and get enough activity to work VRI on your days off! Then use that extra money to pay an increased property tax bill to fund your pension. So how easy that is? You don't need any lube just bend over ok?
Property taxes are a lot higher in the Suburbs. a nice home in Naperville runs around ten to fifteen grand for taxes.
Anonymous said...
"Why not just stop wasting tax money on those who don't work or care. Cut off welfare programs. (they had soup kitchens in the old days to feed the worthless)"
9/03/2015 06:44:00 AM
Aim higher. You want the one in the monogrammed leather swivel chair pulling $125,000 a year; looking at porn, and always "in a meeting." You'd save $10,291.66/month, instead of taking some (possibly genuinely needy and struggling elderly person's) food stamps @ maybe $125.00 month.
Oh...and the "worthless" in the old days might have meant your folks, who could not find work in the Depression. Skilled and industrious people, many of them, thrown into the street by circumstances beyond their control.
Gonna spit, spit on the rich and connected and useless. Do us all a power more of good.
Stay safe, my friend. God bless.
9/03/2015 03:34:00 PM
Immigrants that came to America during the depression had to have a job waiting for them before they were allowed into America. If they lost that job they would return to country of origin if they were unable to find work. No welfare.
My house was just looted and my money is stolen from my wallet. It was all over the news in Chicago today.The person who did it is well known in City of Chicago. He even stated that he going to do it on Television. The Guys name is Mayor Rahm Emanuel. If you see him in person he is about 5'08 Grey Hair.about 140 Lbs. Missing a finger or two.Kinda looks like a thieve. And kinda uses a Used Car Salesman approach. He talks nice as he digs for your wallet. As for the killings and shooting in chiraq its becoming a sporting event in the news everyday.The Mayor is the biggest threat to the Property Tax Payers who have to fund the Sporting event in Chiraq
9/04/2015 03:36:00 AM
5'08??!!!! More like 5'5 and that's if he is standing on his tippy toes.
This is the ARC finally taking effect. That law was passed under Daley.
What's ARC? Affordable housing? Which law were you speaking of?
You know what Fuck everybody in Chicago who voted again for this Jagoff and who keep voting Democrat in this bullshit city. I can afford watever amount these fucking morons increase but I hope anyone who voted for this piece of shit loses thier house!!!!! Fuck Rham! Fuck Gmac! And fuck Demorcrats!
Hey 11:32am , I like the way you think. Looks like the ladies of the CPD want to know more!! Do tell! CPD slug?
It's a spending problem, not a revenue problem. Prediction: media pets will start "investigative reports" showing "abuse" of city pensions. Meanwhile, "revenue projections" will indicate a need to generate "user fees" from suburban residents who work in Chicago, coupled with "congestion fees" for vehicles driven in certain areas of the city (not just Downtown). IPASS devices will be used as instant collection tools. Meanwhile, aldermen and the Mayor will find numerous ways to spend every penny (plus 20% more) of the new revenue on everything except pensions. In particular, aldermen will be bought with enhanced office expense funds and pet projects in the wards. In five years, rinse and repeat.
Standard, Unchanging Nightly Post from The Realtor And His Realtor Wife --
"Higher property taxes will actually be good for the city. Because it will drive out the poor from the city. The well educated professional class and wealthy people want to live in the city. Chicago offers an unparallaled access to fine dining, entertainment, sports, nightlife and culture. The mayor is brilliant; make city living too expensive for the poor so they are driven out and then the wealthy and professional class can move in."
9/03/2015 08:49:00 AM
Downgrade to "Troll" status, please.
Anonymous said...
The story should be about the terrible job Mayor Daley did for 26 years. He is the only person to blame. 26 years to be king is a very very very long time! He controlled everything. He caused the mess. Just think about how long 26 years is and how sick that is. People should be furious with him. Now he sits back with all his $$$ and washes his hands with the city. What a terrible mayor.
9/03/2015 08:10:00 PM
Daley time in office:
mayor, April 24, 1989 – May 16, 2011 - 22 years plus a few weeks
Cook County States Attorney - 9 years
Illinois State Senator - 8 years
Where do you get the 26 years thing? I despise him a lot more than most but it is what it is. 22 years
Anonymous said...
The Morons should make Chicago Competitive,GAS... BOTTLED WATER...ALCOHOL...FUCK IT I'LL JUST SHOP ON AMAZON...
9/03/2015 09:17:00 PM
Now even Amazon sticks it in our ass for Illinois sales taxes. That was the last safe refuge. As least I fucked the state out of sales tax for many years. Fuck them.
Anonymous said...
Can some one tell me exactly how many ppl are collection a pension right now?
9/03/2015 06:34:00 AM
Go to an FOP Meeting, (Oh no! not that! I want someone on the blog to tell me everything too)
The treasurer lays out the count of how many active, how many retired etc. That will get pretty darn close. Or call the Pension Board. Or forget about it.
ok you will be paying a little more on your property tax but when you retire you can move out and have your full pension which will make it up in no time. better than not paying more tax now and only having half pension when you retire? The money has got to come from somewhere.750 more on a 250,000 house. a little bit of overtime will take care of that. The property tax is still lower than the suburbs. I know everyone screams when they have to pay more the the big picture is keeping your pension the way it is. That is the most important!
You really think this tax is gonna solve everything and these pols are gonna all of a sudden start being fiscally responsible and actually do the right thing? Never. It will be business as usual and somewhere down the line this problem will happen again.
Get rid of the 50 worthless Alderman. Start cutting the waste and after that, tell me you want to raise my taxes.
So Bruce the Republican is doing well??
Rahm needs to be asked "How much money is in the TIF funds?"
(Answer: a Billion +)
And "Why cant that money be used to fund the deficit?"
Rahm will answer that the law prohibits that.
Really? Then change the law.
Pretty simple.
Call the next case. Not a cop.
"The city should raise the taxes on every store that sells rolling papers, smokes and any other branded item that is paid for with a LINK card."
9/04/2015 09:34:00 AM
Booze, tobo. and accessories, household cleaners and TP, etc., ineligible for payment. Just food.
Anything else is fraud. State has # to report up on website.
Dirty little man, dirty little store getting over, call it in and shut it down. Seen it happen plenty of times when someone takes a minute.
Quit raggin and call.
Save us all some $$.
"Are you a single, straight male? I'd love to meet you."
9/03/2015 01:36:00 PM
Yo.
"Hey 11:32am , I like the way you think. Looks like the ladies of the CPD want to know more!! Do tell! CPD slug?"
9/04/2015 06:03:00 PM
Got a compliment.
More than you/she/he/it/T/xe/xo/xre can say these days, huh?
>pfft<
"Those obnoxious curb bump-outs."
9/03/2015 10:52:00 PM
Hope they don't catch on -- bicyclist-killers at the corners. No sane reason. "HOLY SHIT!" (swing out into passing cars, duck back quick)
--and those "one-way/the-other-way" wedge things they're putting into parking lot entrances/exits. Like you couldn't tell where the lot was. Real killers, again.
Watch for the new Eurostyle broad-white-stripe-paint crosswalks. Lot of surface area there and SLIPPERY! Put 'em on the other day, and both feet down dragging, and still went all the way through. On my green. That's why -- never focus on immediate obstacle, lock it up, keep heading in a straight line, and pray.
Brake and TURN into whatever space is available. I do full 360s all the time, come up "Matter with you, fool?" Never drive too fast for condx, you can do this.
Cicero got some nice broad slippery thick white lines painted EXACTLY where a cyclist needs to put it. I mean that hot-melt white paint goes on 5/16" high or more in the middle, lay it on.
Etc.
Immigrants that came to America during the depression had to have a job waiting for them before they were allowed into America. If they lost that job they would return to country of origin if they were unable to find work.
Where are you coming up with this BULLSHIT?
In fact, one of the questions asked immigrants upon their arrival to Ellis Island, was "Do you have a job waiting for you?" If they answered "Yes", they were sent back to their country of origin. Because having a prearranged job waiting was a violation of immigration laws.
Please, stop making shit up. Because some of us do pay attention.
I moved out of Chicago 10 years ago when I retired. My property taxes are now 6200.00 and I was just given a 850.00 increase which will put me over 7 grand. I was also just reassessed with a 20% increase. I would gladly sell my house for what Berrios says it is worth. And, I have a small townhome. The tax rate in Chicago is one of the lowest in the country, especially in minority areas. And, if you want some fun, look at what the political class is paying in property taxes ( look at Burke for starters). I have a friend who lives in Will county and is paying 12 grand a year. Our 7000 units of government in this state have a spending problem.
9/04/2015 09:33:00 AM
There is the problem! You retired 10 years ago and still live in Illinois!
That was a stupid move! You should have went South and West!
Immigrants that came to America during the depression had to have a job waiting for them before they were allowed into America. If they lost that job they would return to country of origin if they were unable to find work.
And just how would they be able to set up a job in america without being able to communicate with anybody in the country?
And what if you just lied and said, "Oh yeah my cousin phil got me a job at the factory." How would they know if you're telling them the truth? Ohhhhh let me guess, they would send guys on big white horses to find your cousin phil at the factory to see if you were bullshitting.
So, I guess all of those stories of people coming here with nothing are all bullshit. They all had jobs waiting for them?!?!
There wouldn't have been a great depression going on if there were all kinds of jobs awaiting immigrants.
You need your head checked. Its very sad. I cry for you. You are hopeless.
Yes there is a spending problem in government, but not just at the local level, it is at all levels, and it anin't going away. All I hear is "Fund my pension, fund my pension, but don't raise my contribution percentage." Well where the fuck do you think the money for that will come from? The answer for you simpletons is taxes. That is the way it works folks. The City cannot manufacture money.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Yes there is a spending problem in government, but not just at the local level, it is at all levels, and it anin't going away. All I hear is "Fund my pension, fund my pension, but don't raise my contribution percentage." Well where the fuck do you think the money for that will come from? The answer for you simpletons is taxes. That is the way it works folks. The City cannot manufacture money.
9/06/2015 07:51:00 AM
Nope.
Sorry.
We fulfilled our end of the bargain and the city wants to welch
on top of having stolen from us?
"Fund my pension."
Hang all thieves.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Immigrants that came to America during the depression had to have a job waiting for them before they were allowed into America. If they lost that job they would return to country of origin if they were unable to find work.
And just how would they be able to set up a job in america without being able to communicate with anybody in the country?
And what if you just lied and said, "Oh yeah my cousin phil got me a job at the factory." How would they know if you're telling them the truth? Ohhhhh let me guess, they would send guys on big white horses to find your cousin phil at the factory to see if you were bullshitting.
So, I guess all of those stories of people coming here with nothing are all bullshit. They all had jobs waiting for them?!?!
There wouldn't have been a great depression going on if there were all kinds of jobs awaiting immigrants.
You need your head checked. Its very sad. I cry for you. You are hopeless.
9/06/2015 02:25:00 AM
Different decades, different rules, probably. My grandfather, in the early 1950's had to be sponsored by a citizen, who vouched for him having room and board. My dad, who was grandpa's son-in-law, guaranteed this in some document.
Now even Amazon sticks it in our ass for Illinois sales taxes. That was the last safe refuge. As least I fucked the state out of sales tax for many years. Fuck them.
9/05/2015 12:15:00 AM
Amazon fought that for several years. You can thank LISA MADIGAN for that internet tax.
9/03/2015 04:20:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Can some one tell me exactly how many ppl are collection a pension right now?
9/03/2015 06:34:00 AM
Including widows/spouses pensions (cuz I ain't counting all of them) the total is 50,474 receiving a pension from the police fund. (Yep, over 50 Thousand recipients.)
9/03/2015 04:34:00 PM
Boy are you way off. From the Police Pension 12/312014 Annual Report:
MANAGEMENT’S DISCUSSION AND ANALYSIS (unaudited)
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Plan Membership
The following table reflects the Plan membership as of December 31, 2014, 2013 and 2012.
Plan Membership As of December 31, 2014, 2013 and 2012
2014–2013 2014 2013 2012 Change % .
Retirees and beneficiaries receiving benefits 13,230 13,159 12,966 71 0.5% Active employees 12,020 12,161 12,026 (141) (1.2) Terminated (inactive members) employees entitled to benefits or refunds of contributions 630 654 664 (24) (3.7 )
Total 25,880 25,974 25,656 (94) (0.4)
This didn't copy quite correctly, but bottom line is as of 2014-13230 Retirees and beneficiaries receiving benefit.
well as long as this property tax will go to the Police and Fire pensions i'm OK with it, I have been retired a few years but you folks that have a ways to go need to secure your futures. My concern is that we will now be charged for garbage pickup, but what about these apartment buildings in the Ghetto that have 30 black city garbage cans lined up in the alley and they pay NOTHING !!! Fuck this I will throw all my trash in front of the aldermans office and onto the street even if I have to pay the 18 dollars per month, I will make the city earn this money.
Our pension fund needs to really investigate the coppers that are getting a duty disability pension that really are scammers, not all but a lot are able to work full duty, These are the people who are stealing our pension money. Fuck Them !!!!!!
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