People Don't Want to be the Police?
Why ever would that be?
- Police murders are up and police recruits are down.
CBS 2’s [...] shows us the struggles.
In Chicago and many other American cities, it seems to be getting harder and harder to recruit police officers. Applications have been going down dramatically in recent years. Ask the police commissioner in Philadelphia.
“Right now, policing is not the most attractive occupation that they could probably get into,” said Commissioner Charles Ramsey.
Among the reasons – the danger of the job. Just days ago, a Texas sheriff’s deputy was ambushed. Deputy Darren Goforth was shot and killed as he refueled his patrol car.
And then Tuesday, the shooting death of Fox Lake Police Lt. Charles Joseph Gliniewicz during a foot chase. It stunned residents who knew him and it stunned Mayor Donny Schmit as well as officers who searched for the killers.
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posted by SCC at 1:03 AM
111 Comments:
I love being A Chicago Police Officer,I got on latter in life and Its the best thing I ever did in my Life,
There are elements of the government that would like to see a race war in this country .
They control the media and would use the police as a flint to spark it off .
You disagree . Why has potus weighed in on the killing of a criminal by police but not a policeman killed by a criminal ?
Don't forget the politicians destroying the retirement for police officers too. Lying politicians destroyed the job. It's an attack from all sides. Sad
"And those are just the toppers to the last year-plus of anti-police reporting, most of it based on ignorance or outright lies or a leftist media-driven agenda promulgated at the highest levels of DC government..." -- SCC
Keep describing 300-pound violent offenders battling to gain control of an officer's service weapon as "unarmed."
Keep describing crazed active shooters trying to run over police officers as "shot in the back" when, through a combination of skill, courage, and divine grace, their rampage is halted.
Keep NOT describing some of the worst wanted criminals -- the ones who can render a 20-year-old woman "unrecognizable" in a matter of moments.
Keep it up. And remember -- the more you paywall, the less of your s__t we have to read.
Descending spiral...for you.
And we are about to hit a mass retiring soon from the 80's. '85-'90? If I had the time, I wouldn't be lingering around here in this state anymore. Fuck these democrats and their voters. They will find out soon enough when this place goes to hell. It used to be back in the day when you retired you stayed in chicago, had a good neighborhood, nice neighbors, cost of living wasn't so bad. Now you have guys leaving the state left and right. And the people will get what they vote for, shit. Cops no longer stay in neighborhoods, gangs move in, with their drugs, quality off life goes down. Neighborhoods change for the worse. Look at the south side. What is left? Really, what is left? Two pockets. can you imagine this city if they lifted residency? But they hate the police. Deep down they know they need us though.
I'd rather be a mine detector in the Russian Army.
Are indictments coming down on the previous FOP regime. Not SHields he had know idea what was going on. But But did certain members of the former executive board take gifts from some lawyers without paying income tax?
With all the hate toward the police today why would anyone want the job. Then you heard how the politicians destroyed the pension too. Forget it. Not worth it.
Don't forget the constant drumbeats about how the Pension problems are the police officers fault and the city has to cut pension benefits and health benefits! One of the very reason I took this shit job as a young man! Lately, I feel like I'm going to get robbed of my pension and health benefits from politicians because of the anti-police sentiment! I tell people all the time, go find another career and move from Chicago, if your smart!
The Joyful Haters say:
"Statistics say that being a Policeman is safer than it's ever been."
As Gran'daddy used to say...
"There go dat BULLSHIT again!"
No matter how hard these "smart," well funded m/f-ers in academia/
government/the corporate world try and no matter how the media
tries to spin it, statistics (and the associated corporate bean-counterism)
just cannot be successfully overlaid on something as awful, bloody, dangerous
and flat out unpredictable as Policing because of the very nature of the
majority of the end users of Police Services being some of the most terrible,
messy, dangerous and unpredictable m/f-ers one could ever encounter.
All of this and plus the War Against The Police.
You're damned right people are staying away from Policing as a career.
Who in their right mind wants to chance being the next Copper to be
thrown to "The Mob" for appeasement and craven politics?
Especially after rightfully and lawfully saving themselves from some
6'4" 300+ pound monster type trying to disarm and execute them
with their own weapon then boast about it on Twitter or some such?
Yeah... Remember how people were lined up by the ten thousands
to take the entrance exam during the 1980's and 1990's?
Remember double shifts running at the academy?
Multiple classes of 150+ hitting the streets every month
or two for at least ten years?
We had
PLENTY of HELP
on the streets.
Where the hell did everybody disappear to?
"Achieving Efficiencies"
"Right Sizing."
"Doing More With Less."
"You Cops are complaining
because you're lazy."
"Stop being so rebellious and
get back to work and fight this crime."
Remember this shit-talk from when this war started?
"If you guys don't like the job, just quit already.
We should fire you all and hire people for half
your pay and no benefits and they'll do your
jobs with less complaining. You guys think
way too much of yourselves and we don't like it."
The Joyful Haters are quiet as of late...
Factor in the emboldened, death cultists in our urban areas
and the push for an enshrined national " Police Duty to Retreat/De-Escalate,"
Politicians can't lie well enough to sell Policing as a career.
Not to mention the push by Rahm's buddies on Wall and LaSalle Streets to flat out
STEAL police pensions because they represent the last of the big, sweet honeypots
of "other people's money."
We think THAT is what's driving The War Against The Police.
Somebody smells money.
When you peel away perks and benefits, people stay away.
And given the state of affairs, is it any wonder Policemen are
queuing-up in numbers and heading for the exits?
It just isn't worth the grief and aggravation anymore
and the public has decided that it's The Police who
are out of control.
You are stuck with residency! Parts of the city to expensive to live and the other part is ghetto shit! Hm! Choices to raise a family! Yea right!
Dont forget pension theft. New hires get a tier 2 pension scheme in IL. Better to go elsewhere.
I blame the top, the president who's so fast to make a comment against the police,who is so fast to reach to thugs and their families.
The tone has been set.... nice job Barack
Talked with a couple that knew the Lt, said he was a good man, good cop. Was suppose to retire over a month ago, but when the chief resigned and another officer did, he was asked to extend and help out till they could get manpower up...
District Attorney from Baltimore, Maryland said: "Let them have their own space".
I hold President Obama and Eric Holder responsible for the violence against our police officers. Whomever is the next President will openly show his support for our police because police lives matter. May God be with you all.
Police departments across the country are finding it hard to find qualified black applicants. A black man with a college degree like me is like a hidden gem and very rare.
Neither do I 3 more yrs to KMA
If you see many clips on U-Tube, they seem to encourage folks to fight back against the police.
I'm the police now and I don't really wanna be the police
Young people have many better opportunities. I can't blame them.
Time to kill the college requirement. I think most people will agree street smart is better than book smart. Look at all the young college entitled guys who have stepped in all sorts of s**t. Example the the three year wonder on you tube cracking a kids skull with his asp. He was a idiot from day one when he walked the 3rd district.
You have to be soft as shit to take this job today!! I can't believe P.O.'s are still letting their kids sign up.
Just the way they want it!
2 things can happen.
(1) pay goes up to attract better qualified applicants or (2) they lower the requirements like they are trying to do.
Good luck with the first one.
To anyone reading this, I am a long time veteran police officer. We are in very difficult times to be the police for many reasons but even more so in Chicago. I'm not going to get into it but if you read news papers or watch the news it's self explanatory not to mention our politicians do not like us and they continue to strip away or attempt to strip away our benefits. If you really want to be the police go federal government or go suburbs. We live in a county where judges and politicians cater to the criminal element, your family is more important. Tell me where I'm wrong.
As I've stated before, many times, this is all part and parcel to the Federal government's takeover of this country. Local policing will be taken over by Federal forces, selling it to the stupid as tax relief at the local level while putting federal agents in control of the populations of the largest city centers where coincidentally, crime is out of control.
Sold as "local budgets can't afford it, let US do it for "free" ".
Within the next 5 years, likely far sooner than that, all the big cities that are part of the long term takeover will submit their policing mandates over to the federal government, and people will buy it so long as they think their taxes won't go up.
Make the population poor, make them fight amongst themselves trying to force the NEXT guy into poverty because YOU are, and you've got a willing public screaming for the federalization of the country.
But don't worry, the feds will never declare martial law or anything. You know, to "control" the violence.
Criminals will then become known as "domestic terrorists".
Soon after, anyone NOT in compliance with weapons turnin or any other policy "designed for 'your' safety" will also be deemed domestic terrorists.
Under federal law, when you do not comply with disarmament for security, and localization of living quarters, you will become a terrorist and treated as such.
The subjugation of a country with far too many middle class moneyholders hoarding THEIR money.
At least crime is down in Chicago.
No wonder the city is looking to hire retired coppers to work inside soon! Mayor ordered Gary to put all able bodied coppers on the street!
Maybe reason 10 hour days are not being implemented?
http://www.chicagofop.org/ten-hour-work-day-update/
A person must not have any other job prospects, or really soft if they're still considering becoming the police in today's climate. The majority of people think less of the police than they do the common criminal that never had a chance to succeed in life.
What about the D.C. Officers no confidence vote for their police chief? I figured u guys would be all over this? Maybe call for Deano to have one here, not that it would doing anything other then a little embarrassment and maybe another heartattack for McDrunky
Nobody wants to be the police? Even some police don't want to be the police anymore. I remember when the 12/13 district merged I introduced myself to one particular person and he said to me "oh no I don't work the streets, I will never work the streets, I work the desk". I think if anyone wants to work the desk for a whole police career that's fine BUT you shouldn't get paid the same as a patrol officer. Let's start by cutting they're salary and not giving them uniform allowance. A desk officer for 10 plus years! Embarrassing.
This anger with police has been present through the entire Obama Presidency. The hatred for Police is part of the Black Democrat Agenda, going back to when he said the Cambridge Cop :"Acted Stupidly" for challenging his buddy an arrogant Militant Harvard professor. The Dept. of Justice sent high ranking officials to mourn with Trayvon Martin's family, they also sent them to mourn for Michael Brown; are they sent for cops who die in the line of duty? People are angry, as they should be. People have trusted and placed their support in Democrat Politicians, and they were betrayed. Poverty was not overcome, if anything the situation has worsened. The arrogant Elitist Political Class resents the police. Remember when Al Gore told his dope smoking son that if he did not straighten out he would end up like "them", referring to his Secret Service bodyguards? This is what the Left wants, blame the cops instead of the people who have really caused the problem. "G"
We don't need no stinking police!
http://news.yahoo.com/livid-over-crime-venezuelans-resort-mob-justice-181843197.html?.gg_invalid=true
VALENCIA/CARACAS (Reuters) - When a man they believed to be a thief sneaked into their parking lot in the Venezuelan city of Valencia, angry residents caught him, stripped him and beat him with fists, sticks and stones.
They tied him up and doused him in gasoline, according to witnesses, in one of what rights groups and media reports say are an increasing number of mob beatings and lynchings in a country ravaged by crime.
"People Don't Want to be the Police?"
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27 years is the most I could manage. I couldn't stand one more day.
There are times reading this blog is frustrating. What is meant by too many minorities in jail, it is referred to the bullshit weed cases and minor arrests that many whites do not even get arrested and jailed for. This may not get posted because of that but it is true. I have seen whites kick, spit and hit cops and nothing happens. Many get free rides home. Cook County is full of bullshit cases that are clogging the system and wasting resources. Gun charges are different. Hell yes punish their ass. But for shoplifting? Stealing candy? There was a man choked to death after stealing toothpaste and yet white pedophiles get house arrest.
9/01/2015 08:47:00 AM
Take your butt to traffic court. Only the white man pays. Illegals? No license? No problem, bye bye! Afro-American? They are poor, we can not fine them! Bye bye. Some one should do a study at the Daley Center. % of $$$ collected from traffic by race. Thanks YT!
I wonder if all those pukes in the media will take responsibility for the incessant drum beat of anti-police sentiment. Nah, they will just retreat behind the excuse that "they don't make the news they just report it." What a load of crap. Months and years of beating on the police and this is what happens; recruit numbers down and police officers victimized. I just hope that the men and women on the street know that there are many that support them and that I for one thank them for what they do. God Bless the fallen and their families.
no baseball hat,no application
Hell, I know a lot of coppers who don't want to be the police anymore, at least not Chicago Police! It isn't worth the BS we have to put up with from the departemnet, the city, and the idiot citizens.
What made this job so undesirable...Democrats.
Your mayor say police shouldn't say things like "he got what he deserved", he thinks that's racist.
Well let's see, Your President is a police hater, he has on his Cabinet and staff, police haters, Hillary, Bernie and the apologetic O'Malley all have bowed before #BLM. The store front revs, PhFlegs, pork chop Louie, the looney Sharptoon all subscribing to race baiting.
Your president won't acknowledge crazed Islamic extremists. And when you think about it, the #BLM marauding and chanting 'death to police' is about the same as ISIS chanting 'death to America'. The two groups are very similar and now more obvious, they have their loons, just like ISIS, following their credo by shooting and murdering police across the country. How often do the bombers attack police facilities in the Middle East, hmmm? Remember Baltimore's AG's statement, " I have heard your call", factor that in with the threats by the militant hate black panther party.
There's no bright future in Chicago, but it's good paying job - if you can wing it through the 1st & 16th.
Stay safe, let the jungle be as it was designed.
I blame the Community Divider-in-Chief. This is guerrilla warfare against local police nationwide.
Remember his 2008 speech in Bolder, CO? The one where he promised a national civilian security force as powerful and well funded as the military? Wouldn't it stand to reason that local police organizations must first be dismantled through any means? It appears this fundamental change is underway.
Police understaffing? Check
Police prosecution? Check
Police assassinations? Check
Police demoralization? Check
Crimes downgraded? Check
Revolving door justus (sic) Check
I think it's pretty clear what's happening. Care to guess who will comprise this national civilian security force?
Personally, I loooovvvve being the police. I am required to say that I aspire to bring peace and social justice to the community I serve. My mind says kill all communists and savages that attack me in a violent way.
Problem solved. Kill m' with a smile.
Even the police don't want to do it any more. It's clear that the violence will only increase. Good citizens better arm themselves like the Democrat politicians that have massive security around them.
Rat Rhahm should be paying for this himself. He takes away cops from the street and his Hermitage house is no safer. Crime occurs just a few doors down but city uses different address so it doesn't embarrass the mayor and his precious family.
Semper Fi
I got hired from the June 81 test in which 35,000 people took. The city only hired 700 from that list that contained about 15,000 names of those who passed. The next text was in June of 85 and there were less than 20,000 who took that test. This decrease in numbers of test takers has been going on for years.
Well when you have mayor that buckles in the knees when the minority communities cry about the police and he throws cops to the wolves then brings in an outsider like McCarthy whose policing ideas are crazy like 2 weeks after being here launches 2 good units that had the abilities to saturate and slow down the element claiming that beat cops do the job better, I don't deny that but when beat cops are tasked with Bullshit radio calls how can they do police work, Next you have Supervisors who crap in thier pants when they have to make a decision or back the troops who wants to work or be the police. Finally you have aldermen like Anthony Beale that wants to lower the hiring standards to include THUGS that have no business near a gun, police files or anything police related how do we fight crime. I'm a retired Sgt. who backed my people and after almost 40 years of service still worry about the troops. STAY SAFE AND HEALTHY. RIP FOX LAKE LT> GLIENEWICZ !!!!!!!!!!
Look at the south side. What is left? Really, what is left? Two pockets. can you imagine this city if they lifted residency? But they hate the police. Deep down they know they need us though.
9/02/2015 01:36:00 AM
They can't function without us. If they don't have the police involved in their daily lives they can't cope. Sad fact.
I believe it's still one of the best Jobs out there and I can't wait to get hired, but I will agree that a lot of my friends are backing out of trying to becoming police officers because of the way police officers are treated nowadays ( that's their loss) and becuase a officers every move is question especially when he stops a criminal from trying to kill. Too all the police officers Stay safe and be viligant and remember there's a lot of people that appreciate what you do everyday.
Time to kill the college requirement. I think most people will agree street smart is better than book smart. Look at all the young college entitled guys who have stepped in all sorts of s**t. Example the the three year wonder on you tube cracking a kids skull with his asp. He was a idiot from day one when he walked the 3rd district.
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I think the way many of these millennials were raised by their parents is the biggest issue with the current crop of young officers, not necessarily that they have college experience. I'm sure that a few high school educated officers back in the 60's and 70's used their baton indiscriminately from time to time. A softball is a softball, with or without college.
Why in the hell would you want this job??? I'm on the other side and only have 10 left than I'm out of this job forever. These are complicated times and just doing your job can lead you to be fired, sued or put in prison. Stay safe brothers, remember this is a job not some life's calling so 19p everything, make sure your fellow officers are safe and go home to the family. ROD should be the new mantra of the Chicago Police Department, which means retired on duty.
765B
No wonder the city is looking to hire retired coppers to work inside soon! Mayor ordered Gary to put all able bodied coppers on the street!
9/02/2015 08:02:00 AM
He can start at call back. Plenty of reinstated PO's who remain stripped.
No wonder the city is looking to hire retired coppers to work inside soon! Mayor ordered Gary to put all able bodied coppers on the street!
Yea sure he did
Are indictments coming down on the previous FOP regime. Not SHields he had know idea what was going on. But But did certain members of the former executive board take gifts from some lawyers without paying income tax?
9/02/2015 03:32:00 AM
Oh shut up already
You have to be soft as shit to take this job today!! I can't believe P.O.'s are still letting their kids sign up.
I agree 100%. I tell everybody I know if there's anyone they know interested in the job tell them not to do it. It's a toxic environment, inside the dept. and out and the hours suck. Apply for the fire departments in the suburbs. Get a CDL and be a truck driver. But don't become a cop. You'll just be a target for the media, politicians, the public. Not to mention the inner department politics. You'll see people get promoted who never did a day of work because of their phone call, have people act like their your friend and then go spread BS rumors about you. The gossip is beyond comprehension. Too many coppers walking around with unresolved issues trying to bring people down to their level. A lot of shady characters on this job, supervisors included. Way too much BS when you're only making 40 or 50 grand a year.
Hell, I know a lot of coppers who don't want to be the police anymore, at least not Chicago Police! It isn't worth the BS we have to put up with from the departemnet, the city, and the idiot citizens.
I know a guy who just resigned. He had enough of the world of the CPD. I will soon be following him and getting the fuck out of here. To be dependent on a job you hate and controlled by a job you hate is no way to be.
I'd rather be a mine detector in the Russian Army.
I'm right behind you. Anything but CPD patrolman.
The reason???? How about when your own federal government tells you they think you are a piece of shit and sanction open season (legal action and assault) on you for doing your job!??
I already told my son, don't take the police test and in fact prepare to leave from Chicago! Nevermind that stupid idea of following in dads footsteps!
I told my son get into Diesel mechanics, excellent pay and benefits working on big machinery, get on with a big company like FedEx or UPS, and move from Illinois to a nice warm weather, low tax state!
Staying in Chicago, is like being in HELL!!
Rahm is Satan and McCarthy is the Grim Reaper!
KMA 20+
Thanks to Obama and Holder.
Wow....as the police recruit reading this. You give me soon much hope. Eh s*** happens.
This is all part of the POTUS plan to do away with local police forces and replace them with a federal police force run by the DOJ. Just ask Al Sharpton who has been to the W.H more than 100 times and is one of the people behind the "black lives matter" movement. The local police are afraid to do their job because of what might happen to them if they get sued and I don't blame them, crime will get worse in all major cities and the feds, will act. Besides it's a good way to stop paying pensions on a group that does not exist anymore. Just like a company that goes under.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
And we are about to hit a mass retiring soon from the 80's. '85-'90?
We had three wagons up, two man cars except on days, power cars, multiple tact teams, 206 cars[ok, you got me there, they didn't do much], and outside units up the ying yang doing their thing. It was a different time in sooo many ways.
Back each other up, stay safe, and don't step on your...!
....I will never work the streets, I work the desk". I think if anyone wants to work the desk for a whole police career that's fine BUT you shouldn't get paid the same as a patrol officer. Let's start by cutting they're salary and not giving them uniform allowance. A desk officer for 10 plus years! Embarrassing.
Well, why don't you try working the desk sometime before you make comments like this?
Maybe the person you're talking about is a total softball, but let me tell you, when our regular crew is on furlo, people are crying when they are stuck inside for a couple days a week. You don't want people like me inside, but you are the first one sitting at one of the desk computers checking your e-mail saying "They'll help you down there", to any citizen that walks in the door, then grab your stuff and take off, saying to yourself "thank god I didn't have to handle that nonsense!"
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"People Don't Want to be the Police?"
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27 years is the most I could manage. I couldn't stand one more day.
9/02/2015 08:57:00 AM
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I hear you. I couldn't get past 28. Blew 2 1/2% of pension, but regained control over my own life, location of residence and sanity. It was totally worth it.
Thanks Obama. Thanks anti police politicians and media.
Reap what you sow.
Who the hell wants to come on this job? I came on when there were alot of great bosses, comaraderie, and you didn't have to worry about being executed as you went about your duties in Anytown USA
Anonymous said...
Hell, I know a lot of coppers who don't want to be the police anymore, at least not Chicago Police! It isn't worth the BS we have to put up with from the departemnet, the city, and the idiot citizens.
9/02/2015 09:16:00 AM
I'm with you on that brother or sister!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
No wonder the city is looking to hire retired coppers to work inside soon! Mayor ordered Gary to put all able bodied coppers on the street!
9/02/2015 08:02:00 AM
if that's true, I'm out next year and back again!
24 years and out for me Florida is looking better winter is coming
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"And those are just the toppers to the last year-plus of anti-police reporting, most of it based on ignorance or outright lies or a leftist media-driven agenda promulgated at the highest levels of DC government..." -- SCC
Keep describing 300-pound violent offenders battling to gain control of an officer's service weapon as "unarmed."
Keep describing crazed active shooters trying to run over police officers as "shot in the back" when, through a combination of skill, courage, and divine grace, their rampage is halted.
Keep NOT describing some of the worst wanted criminals -- the ones who can render a 20-year-old woman "unrecognizable" in a matter of moments.
Keep it up. And remember -- the more you paywall, the less of your s__t we have to read.
Descending spiral...for you.
9/02/2015 01:35:00 AM
Ahhh Yes...
The Pay Wall.
Political and Agenda Operatives
hijacking threads, down-voting and flagging comments.
Claiming offense and having thoughtful and truthful
commentary removed...
People who like to perform due diligence, think for themselves
and possess the jaundiced eye and combative discernment that
enables them to avoid the pitfalls of Progressive weasel words
and slippery syntax to formulate their own opinions.
People like Rahm Emanuel specialize in the media manipulation designed
to keep people in the dark as to their doings.
The fear is not only will you churls catch on, but that you
will eventually gain a firm footing and counter-punch them
to sleep for their Fuckery.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'd rather be a mine detector in the Russian Army.
9/02/2015 03:03:00 AM
Heh...
Crawling across a field of bloody shit-mud with kinetically
disinterred and disarticulated dead strewn about while
probing the ground with a Spetsnaz fighting shovel?
Shit...
If you survive your term of enlistment, you can make bank
afterwards as a merc or go quasi-legit with one of the
shadowy "dignitary protection" outfits that are out there.
Fuck loyalty since the social contract in this republic
is about to be shredded for good.
So that means the salary and benefits are tooo low!
So generation Y wants everyone to like them and think posting likes on facebook is actually protesting. They believe credit ratings are based on Debits cards.
The fake lie box interviews and the systematic failing of police officers kids and veterans has lead to some of the most questionable recruits i have ever seen.
Throw in the mix of clouted triple merits promoted wayyyyy beyond their usefulness and you have a quagmire of dimwitted wanna be investigators and managers with little common sense.
Do what they ask and let the chips fall. Do not offer your merit boss any advice just document the great commands you are given and always have a witness in those closed door meeting because the boss will have one.
Go to a COMPSTAT meeting and you will shake in disbelief those shiny badges gleam with pride while YOU LISTEN TO DRIBBLE ABOUT MISSION and guns recovered.
Don't ever ask how many cases have lead to an actual arrest. Don't ever ask Who investigates the 100's of cases that are generated a day.
Pay your penny on soda and water.
Black lies matter and dumbass white people buy their bull.
It's over for the police and most major cities are heading for Detroit.
Best to get out when one can.
Guess this social engineering experiment worked. Very bad for the honest hard working citizens!!! The libs are getting what they wanted.
Yes,No Question the Communist liberal minded must be Destroyed.
The job sux big time- everyone is leaving ASAP. The only ones who stay and make a career of it are those with connections and clout. They will stay to take promos and become the next generation of politically controlled bosses who rose through the ranks on the backs of those good working officers
I remember when I got on I 86. I was having so much fun being the police I never wanted to take a day off and never extended my furlough. I am retiring in November and can't wait. There is no more looking out for each other, limited bosses that know what they're doing and will cover your ass. Politicians who side with criminals over police it's like the sixties all over again or worse. I remember when a policeman was shot or killed no one went home until every shit head dope dealer convicts door was knocked down and you never seen a CR# for it. I feel sorry for the police with only 5 to 15 years on with families, houses, kids in school that are stuck here. Good luck to all and be safe.
I thought this job was still a good option for young people up until about 2011 or so. The incessant attacks on our benefits and the arrival of Emanuel made me rethink that.
I then began to believe it was only a good job if you couldn't find anything else that was decent.
Today, I would encourage nobody, not even the unemployable, to take this job. Under attack at every level. Stay at Home Depot, you won't go to Federal Prison.
Getting killed, crippled, sued, second guessed, indicted, hated and 100's of other awefull things that occur in the course of a police officer's career. Knowing all this, someone that may be considering taking the job, also has to hear how the lying politicians destroyed(stold)the retirement fund for the police too. The same politicians that caused the hate toward the police also purposely mismanaged their retirement. Who would want the job today? Apparently not many. Thanks scumbag politicians!
Look at everything going on, rahms refused to fund the pension and disability dean organized nothing no marches no protest nothing! Wonder why?
Aside from all the horrible things that happen to cops and being hated we are also told that the pension fund is destroyed. Then everytime the issue of a raise comes up the politicians blow us off make us wait years and then give us almost nothing. They better start paying cops more and fix the pension or no one will want the job. Blue lives matter!
I dont know whats worse??? Dealing with the turds on the street. or the turds that run the department. You over educated City colleged morons sure made a fuckery of this department. Jagoffs!
This is all MSM propaganda. You need to realize the BS from the media is absorbed only by the low IQ crowd. The rest of us that have worked for what we have don't play that shit. Trump is popular because He can get away with saying what the real Americans think. It's obvious the REAL people know the politicians don't give a shit about anyone but themselves. The men of the PD are respected by the citizens. They're trying to demoralize you, don't play into their hands. Hold your head up and be proud.
Policing is now viewed as a financial refuge for just desperate
enough people who for were pushed out of other careers.
Can't really begrudge a man for wanting to keep the family
fed and sheltered.
But...
This Policing thing...
When people come to it because they feel have nothing else.
Versus?
Somebody called to it because they have a fire, ya know?
Wanna "do something about it."
Make shit right in their own little way, ya know?
Help people who need it.
Hurt people who deserve it.
That fearsome defender/protector sensibility.
That big and bad, mean and mad P A T R O L M A N.
Able to grind Bad Guy to a powder.
Run into burning buildings and save lives.
Endure the heartbreak of interviewing the
whore of a mother and mutt of a boyfriend
to achieve justice for a toddler laying unresponsive
on a ventilator with his eyeballs full of blood from
being shaken so badly.
Facing down gun wielding savages and coming out on top.
The nightmares.
The hell with political correctness.
The hell with the pandering politicians.
The hell with all of the "thou shalt nots"
cynically slid into place out of fear of the
power enshrined in the Illinois Criminal Code of 1961.
How very un-public servant-like to sit and remember
what was...
"You guys are just angry because it isn't 1960 anymore."
Who dares to step up now?
Do not go out go out and do any police work. Times are bad, brothers and sisters in blue. I am a CPD Sgt and I am telling you, do not take the chance and do any police work. Zero!!! 80 percent of the white shirts, do not have your back! They are worried about getting promoted. I see it every day. I am disgusted and I am black balled because I call them out. Please listen to me and do nothing. Show up on time. Look sharp in your uniform. Answer your calls. Be professional. Yes Sir, No Sir. Dont work VRI. Back each other up. And come in with big zeros. There is nothing they can do. I just forwarded all threatening documents for activity from the command staff to various civil rights attorneys. I guarantee you there is nothing they can do to you. Fuck VRI. It is Vietnam and we are the returning soldiers. I repeat no white shirt have your backs. I am ashamed and embarrassed to be a CPD Sgt.
Is cpd assisting?
Sad that he put up with the BS for 32 years, postponed his retirement and was due to retire at the end of the month, and this is how the end came.
Imagine a uniformed police lieutenant actually doing poce work!
You never see a garbage man getting put in the news for mistreating a garbage can. Those guys make good $$ and don't even have to get out of the truck anymore..... Its like a life size arcade game
Hell, I know a lot of coppers who don't want to be the police anymore, at least not Chicago Police! It isn't worth the BS we have to put up with from the departemnet, the city, and the idiot citizens.
9/02/2015 09:16:00 AM
Whenever I drive past the academy I wonder why those kids are doing what they're doing. As for idiot citizens, yeah they exist but there are idiot coppers too.
Obama is the worst President ever and will never be surpassed. He has created division and hate like no other. He is a horrible man.
Time to kill the college requirement. I think most people will agree street smart is better than book smart. Look at all the young college entitled guys who have stepped in all sorts of s**t. Example the the three year wonder on you tube cracking a kids skull with his asp. He was a idiot from day one when he walked the 3rd district.
9/02/2015 07:21:00 AM
Hey jagoff, that "kid" wasn't a college educated punk like most. He is a combat veteran with several tours under his belt. Now go back to your hole and finish your coffee and paper you mutt.
And here comes the tax hikes! In the fibune today. For "police and fire pensions". So every asshole that doesn't know any better can talk shit about police and fire and blame them for the property tax hike (which will happen to be the biggest in chicago history). I work in the trades and and rent in the city. Took the fire exam and got a number below 300 on the list. It's pretty much a guarantee I'd get in but no way. They can shove it up their ass. I don't want to be here when chicago neighborhoods are either ghetto's or far more than I'll be able to afford. Private schools for the kids and taxed for everything including the air we breathe. No thanks! Lifelong chicagoan moving to the burbs. Rip chicago, the machine has chased me out.
HS diploma and passing basic literacy/writing test should be enough.
Best cop I ever worked with had a GED and military background. Couldn't write a report or type to save his life, but he defused more situations with his verbal and people skills than anyone I ever met. Black guy who lived in the district and grew up nearby. People there trusted him and gave him tips on the more serious stuff that happened in the district. Would have been a great Sergeant if he could have scored high enough and had someone to help him with the paperwork. No merit promotions then.
He had a great line about 'officer involved domestic'. That's where a cop comes into a situation and makes it worse. Funny guy who often talked in parables or like a preacher when he wanted to get a laugh.
I have multiple degrees and if you want a police administrator I'd be better than him. You want a street cop with verbal skills pick someone like him. I'd be lucky to be as good as he was on his worst day.
The idea that a college degree is necessary for policing is crazy. What you need is a strong work ethic, basic decency, patience, verbal skills and a willingness to reluctantly get physical if necessary.
If you want people to become cops you need decent pay and benefits, real pension as opposed to promises, and leadership that's willing to back a good cop that just screwed up or is being attacked unfairly for some situation. I'd also add in 'sabbaticals' for guys who are burned out. Let them become a city tree trimmer for a few months or years and stay on the CPD payroll. Plenty of guys who are burned out with 20+ years, but who need the paycheck and won't retire.
CPD isn't perfect, but as far as big city police departments go it's at least average. Working in some small suburban department may seem to be better, and it often is, but at least in CPD if you have some 'higher up' with a vendetta against you it's possible to move to a different assignment. Try that in any department under say 300 sworn personnel.
2:20 am. Time to turn off the netflix and go to sleep.
I can't wait to leave this job. The sooner the better as far as I'm concerned. Answer calls and cut paper go home.
Legislators RUINED policing by passing a suffocating truckload of petty prohibitions that just anger the public, and left cops in the unenviable position of enforcing it all. Mayberry RFD is a distant memory.
This is democracy exactly the way Alexis de Tocqueville expected it over 100 years ago when he wrote "Democracy in America." He called it "Democratic Despotism," where society ends up being covered by an endless net of petty rules, each passed to satisfy endless petty little political factions.
Democracy produces a society of thieves forever trying to steal from each other. When the loot is largely gone, democracy then produces a society of cannibals who try to consume each other. Look to the chaos in Venezuela to see the future of America.
In the end, those of us in the Silent Majority will protect the families of cops in our group.
"We are the World" was a Narrative that ended in 2000. The new Narrative that will guide society will be "my group first, other groups get out of the way or leave." How those "groups" become defined will be the central question of the next decade or two.
Sides will be chosen.
Arby’s earned itself a new mortal enemy after initiating beef with a Florida police officer. The fast food restaurant, archenemy of Jon Stewart, reportedly refused service to an uniformed Pembroke Pines police officer on Tuesday evening for being a police officer. The least Arby's could've done was service the officer if it wasn’t going to buy the officer a free lunch.
In a press release, Pembroke Pines Police Chief Dan Giustino said that he would be "contacting the Arby's CEO to demand an apology." Chief Giustino also mentioned in the report,
“We recognize that this is an isolated incident confined to a single individual within our city, and appreciate the outpouring of support we continue to receive from the residents of Pembroke Pines. Ironically, a local mother and her daughter visited police headquarters that same evening and dropped off cookies and a ‘Thank You’ card to show their appreciation for our agency and its officers.”
According to Pembroke PD, Arby’s CEO Paul Brown has since apologized to Chief Giustino.
Just remember if you live outside the 19th and 23rd wards chances are extremely high that you voted for RHAM and you did it twice, so you got what you deserve. Pay attention and understand what your voting for.
Take your butt to traffic court. Only the white man pays. Illegals? No license? No problem, bye bye! Afro-American? They are poor, we can not fine them! Bye bye. Some one should do a study at the Daley Center. % of $$$ collected from traffic by race. Thanks YT!
9/02/2015 08:58:00 AM
I totally agree about Traffic Court!
Unless your a white person, most traffic tickets are thrown out of court if a Black or Hispanic person challenges the Police Officer writing the tickets!
The judges, feel sorry for these traffic offenders! You commit a violation you should get penalized and NOT coddled! Soon, we will be driving like in a third world city with all these traffic violators who are emboldened by a soft traffic court system!
I even overheard one judge tell a lawyer, that nobody gets convicted in her court room! Guess what her background and race is? Then gave the Police Offices in the front row the "shit eye"!
I felt a very cold chill of anti-police sentiment and this is from a sitting judge!
So, Officers keep on making dangerous traffic stops, just so that you will NOT be backed up in a court of law by these anti-police judges and lawyers!
There are times reading this blog is frustrating. What is meant by too many minorities in jail, it is referred to the bullshit weed cases and minor arrests that many whites do not even get arrested and jailed for. This may not get posted because of that but it is true. I have seen whites kick, spit and hit cops and nothing happens. Many get free rides home. Cook County is full of bullshit cases that are clogging the system and wasting resources. Gun charges are different. Hell yes punish their ass. But for shoplifting? Stealing candy? There was a man choked to death after stealing toothpaste and yet white pedophiles get house arrest.
9/01/2015 08:47:00 AM
You're a fucking retard. Nobody goes to jail for a bullshit weed case. Sorry to burst your bubble. If you're a habitual shoplifter, then yes, you have to go to jail. If you resist and fight with the security guard, you might die. How about this? Don't resist until you die, or just don't steal. Everyone goes to county at some point if you're charged with a felony. You either bond out or you don't. You can't figure this out because you're really fucking dumb.
"The fake lie box interviews and the systematic failing of police officers kids and veterans has lead to some of the most questionable recruits i have ever seen."
So according to you being a legacy or a vet should be an automatic prequalifier?
Good story out of NYC by former cop.
http://observer.com/2015/09/talking-a-blue-streak-cops-blast-mayor-de-blasio-for-making-a-tough-job-even-tougher/
do we miss Shields yet?
HS diploma and passing basic literacy/writing test should be enough.
Best cop I ever worked with had a GED and military background. Couldn't write a report or type to save his life, but he defused more situations with his verbal and people skills than anyone I ever met. Black guy who lived in the district and grew up nearby. People there trusted him and gave him tips on the more serious stuff that happened in the district. Would have been a great Sergeant if he could have scored high enough and had someone to help him with the paperwork. No merit promotions then.
He had a great line about 'officer involved domestic'. That's where a cop comes into a situation and makes it worse. Funny guy who often talked in parables or like a preacher when he wanted to get a laugh.
I have multiple degrees and if you want a police administrator I'd be better than him. You want a street cop with verbal skills pick someone like him. I'd be lucky to be as good as he was on his worst day.
The idea that a college degree is necessary for policing is crazy. What you need is a strong work ethic, basic decency, patience, verbal skills and a willingness to reluctantly get physical if necessary.
If you want people to become cops you need decent pay and benefits, real pension as opposed to promises, and leadership that's willing to back a good cop that just screwed up or is being attacked unfairly for some situation. I'd also add in 'sabbaticals' for guys who are burned out. Let them become a city tree trimmer for a few months or years and stay on the CPD payroll. Plenty of guys who are burned out with 20+ years, but who need the paycheck and won't retire.
CPD isn't perfect, but as far as big city police departments go it's at least average. Working in some small suburban department may seem to be better, and it often is, but at least in CPD if you have some 'higher up' with a vendetta against you it's possible to move to a different assignment. Try that in any department under say 300 sworn personnel.
2:20 am. Time to turn off the netflix and go to sleep.
9/03/2015 02:21:00 AM
Sorry, that's not going to happen. The department doesn't need more people who regurgitate narratives on reports. They need people who 1.) understand what they can do and 2.) Articulate what happened in a clear and concise manner. I've seen people omit things in reports that would bolster thier case in favor of puking out a shit sandwich narrative that they bought out of the Dollar Store. People still don't understand reasonable suspicion to create contact cards and want to get less educated people. What you don't understand is that you can't scoop up dude dirty and make it right. Although if you don't understand the world we live in now, you probably never did shit. Get a bus check and go back to sleep.
I even overheard one judge tell a lawyer, that nobody gets convicted in her court room! Guess what her background and race is? Then gave the Police Offices in the front row the "shit eye"!
I felt a very cold chill of anti-police sentiment and this is from a sitting judge!
So, Officers keep on making dangerous traffic stops, just so that you will NOT be backed up in a court of law by these anti-police judges and lawyers!
9/03/2015 09:44:00 AM
ok so who is the judge? because I have already been doing exactly what you said for the past 10 years and haven't been to traffic court to see her.
4th down and 10 yards to go.
Gentlemen and Ladies,
In Humility and with respect- you are in a war now and the subject of a growing terrorism campaign. As you are still in law enforcement and reactive mode it's tragically one sided. Certainly you can respond - after the damage is done.
If you remain passive and attempt to carry on business as usual plus extra vigilance then sadly people inclined to be policemen may stay away.
If you led and fought back there'd be a nation behind you. Yes a bit scary in itself.
You're in a war. Not crime. War. Look at the history of other conflict ridden countries. This is beginning and growing.
Good luck and be safe.
Anonymous said...
Are indictments coming down on the previous FOP regime. Not SHields he had know idea what was going on. But But did certain members of the former executive board take gifts from some lawyers without paying income tax?
9/02/2015 03:32:00 AM
Oh shut up already
9/02/2015 01:45:00 PM
I know you city-wide guys would like all of us to get amnesia. Look for two or three shoes drop at fop in the next couple of months, and a couple more at the state lodge. Trying to fix a union election is a federal offense. Sleep well for now boys...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Arby’s earned itself a new mortal enemy after initiating beef with a Florida police officer. The fast food restaurant, archenemy of Jon Stewart, reportedly refused service to an uniformed Pembroke Pines police officer on Tuesday evening for being a police officer. The least Arby's could've done was service the officer if it wasn’t going to buy the officer a free lunch.
In a press release, Pembroke Pines Police Chief Dan Giustino said that he would be "contacting the Arby's CEO to demand an apology." Chief Giustino also mentioned in the report,
“We recognize that this is an isolated incident confined to a single individual within our city, and appreciate the outpouring of support we continue to receive from the residents of Pembroke Pines. Ironically, a local mother and her daughter visited police headquarters that same evening and dropped off cookies and a ‘Thank You’ card to show their appreciation for our agency and its officers.”
According to Pembroke PD, Arby’s CEO Paul Brown has since apologized to Chief Giustino.
9/03/2015 08:27:00 AM
Jeez, was the Arby's CEO required to burn down the franchise just to please you?
THE REST OF THE STORY: Arby's CEO and another Arby's exec flew to Florida to address the offending employees personally and to fire them. In other words, Arby's CEO responded quickly to the Pembroke Pines chief, apologized immediately, offered his apology immediately, said he'd investigate and take the proper action, and then he did exactly that.
We are not the insane mob. We are supposed to be the rational ones. Punish the guilty party or parties, do the right thing, but you're STILL complaining? MOVE ON, it's over.
Just my own family experience with how Chicago seems to be hurting for applicants. I'm retired CPD and one of my sons took the test. I don't remember exactly when, but it would seem to be the last one obviously. About 6 months ago I get an email, as my account was used when he signed up, stating he had failed to report, as notified by a previously sent email, to show up for the Power Test. And due to his failure to show he would be removed from the list. To the best of my knowledge I/he had never received this email notification. I'm not here to blame anyone for that, just a basis for the story. I called personnel and spoke with an Officer who was friendly, professional, etc, who stated that unless I could get confirmation from AOL that there was some kind of technical problem on AOL's end that caused us not to receive the email that he was, in my own words, SOL. And she told me in a nice way and in other words, good luck with that. Again I'm not complaining about her. Then in my fatherly mind trying to figure out how I could help my son get back on the list for the job, that we all agree has been taking a non-deserved public pounding, but that I loved and was proud to do, never mind some of the most fun I could ever imagine having.
I complained like many of us on this blog about guys getting, help, or phone calls, but I never had any but probably would have used if I did. I started thinking about trying to find out from people I worked with "does anybody know anybody that can make a call to help my kid get back on the list? When reality finally hit, my knuckle headed kid still hadn't gotten the credits he needed in school yet, and may never and he didn't seem to care if he got "the job" or not. But in an old mans ramblings I'm finally getting to my point. So I never tried to help him and lo and behold 6 months later, I receive his email requesting for him to show up for the power test. No phone calls, no AOL saying there was a technical error, and as nice as the officer at personnel was, I don't think she ever asked my sons name, so as much as would like to think it could have been one or our own helping another, it come down to , I think, the city hurting for applicants.
Man, I'm not to used to all this one finger typing anymore, and I'm just used to somebody telling me to shut the f up ol' man when I talk to much. I know, I know, they're will be a bunch of people on the blog telling me to shut up ol man, but I'll probably be in the middle of my second nap of the day by the time that happens. Please stay safe.
THE REST OF THE STORY: Arby's CEO and another Arby's exec flew to Florida to address the offending employees personally and to fire them. In other words, Arby's CEO responded quickly to the Pembroke Pines chief, apologized immediately, offered his apology immediately, said he'd investigate and take the proper action, and then he did exactly that.
We are not the insane mob. We are supposed to be the rational ones. Punish the guilty party or parties, do the right thing, but you're STILL complaining? MOVE ON, it's over.
9/04/2015 03:10:00 AM
They didn't fire the employee who refused to serve the officer, they only "suspeded" him. They fired his manager. Unacceptable.
I served in Iraq and Afghanistan but you wouldn't catch me in some Chicago neighborhoods. I have much respect for the police in this city. We'd deploy and then hopefully be back home safe, police are getting after it everyday. I want to say thank you!
Any Vietnam veterans still on the job?
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