How to Underreport Crime
The jokers over at Crime in Wrigleyville and Boystown blog have an amusing story up:
- Chicago police executives are bragging about an 8% reduction in crime this year (even though murders and other difficult-to-hide crimes have increased).
But part of the crime "reduction" is almost certainly the result of the hurdles that citizens must jump to simply report an incident.
CWB Chicago has now learned that the Chicago Police Department web site that is supposed to allow citizens to file police reports online doesn't work, adding yet another layer of frustration.
Tipped of by a reader who tried to file a package theft report online this week, CWB editors decided to give it a try. Every time we tried to submit a report, the site told us that the address we entered is not in the CPD's jurisdiction. We should try calling to file a report over the phone, the site said.
We tried to report criminal damage at 1060 W. Addison. According to the CPD site, that address—the location of Wrigley Field—is not in their jurisdiction.
We tried to report a bicycle theft from outside of the John Hancock Center at 875 N. Michigan Avenue. That's not in CPD territory, either, the site says.
We even tried to report criminal trespassing to a vehicle in the Chicago Police Department headquarters parking lot at 3510 S. Michigan. But, you guessed it, the Chicago Police Department headquarters is apparently not in the Chicago Police Department's jurisdiction.
In the Department's defense, 35th and Michigan exists in something we like to call The Twilight Zone. Rules of time, space, physics and crime reporting don't exist there - neither do concepts such as accountability, honor or common sense.
The followup report claims to have "fixed" the problem, but who knows.
The followup report claims to have "fixed" the problem, but who knows.
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posted by SCC at 12:35 AM
81 Comments:
So...
With all of that...
Is it any wonder why the powers that be have adamantly refused
to come clean with the actual manpower numbers?
CPD has gutted by at least a third and City Hall is desperate to
keep the public in the dark.
311 tells you to call 911, 911 tells you to call 311.
...and your "home invasion" [and I mean it, some junkie twitch 1/2 second from next world via 12 Ga. Airlines] comes out as a "criminal damage to property."
Been going on for 20-30 years.
Contact cards on COMPLAINANTS -- and if you spot the complainant three weeks later, in broad daylight, buying a newspaper from the machine on the corner, flick the spotlight up and down him like he's gonna jump and run.
I can't see you.
This is white-on-white in white neighborhoods. Police act like this and wonder why people hate their guts.
There's lots more, everyday stories from ordinary working people that would make any decent copper avert his or her eyes in shame, and everyone knows it -- but we still stand with civilization against barbarism.
Often with citizens not quite knowing why the f__k they bother. One side just as bad as the other.
That needed to be said.
God bless all here. Stay safe.
Sort of like trying to sign up for Obamacare on it's website.
It's going to be a long and slow 2 years of waiting after next month. I will have to sign a paper stating I will not speak of or write a book etc. about the Chicago Police Department or the City of Chicago. If I don't keep quiet for 2 years, I can lose my pension. Now why would the city have a retiree sign such a form?? I know why. Because this city is corrupt and dirty as all hell. I will have a field day with this book.
"Chicago police executives..."
Stop right there.
Thats that crappy AIRA geo-coding garbage that we have to deal with and it is stupid and frustrating for years! Now you have Joe citizen trying to do a report now! What a joke! No wonder the city can say crime is down, the website runs like Obamacare website and nobody wants to deal with it!
So that is how they "kill" crime in Chicago.
"CWB Chicago has now learned that the Chicago Police Department web site that is supposed to allow citizens to file police reports online doesn't work..."
Has anyone ever actually SEEN a "snitch box?"
Oops. Sssh.
I know where there is the wreck of an old call box, but I flushed my key down the toilet with my dentures by accident.
LOOK OUT --
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/09/16/fed-assails-seniors-right-bear-arms-column/71964766/?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=news-opinion
RIP to rookie Kentucky Trooper Ponder who was shot & killed by Black Lies Matter shithead after a high speed chase Sunday night.....
Ever try to use callback? The time involved makes many just give up on making a report. Thus those crimes go unreported.
I've spoken to citizens that have filed reports online and never received an RD number from the department after their report was submitted for review. This city goes out of its way to make things difficult for its taxpayers.
The whole "crime is down" thing is ridiculous. The % keeps dropping. Eventually it will go below 0% and we will either get rid of cops, or have to import crime because of the deficit. How is it calculated? Is a murder equal to a a simple batter/purse snatching/jaywalking?
Interesting! How about 911 continually transferring calls to the District Desks? If 911 doesn't send a car out, does that mean the call doesn't count thus lowering the number of "Calls for Service"? Again, making it look like crime is down and man power is adequate.
SO again somebody is being paid 100k plus with pension and nobody is demoted or fired. Could you imagine 911 NOT WORKING? or 311 which puts people on hold for hours.
Yet officers who actually are on the street and are involved in actions that require life and death decision must suffer while GARRY tries and scheme a way to placate the media because police officer are the new punching bag.
Media needs to look a little harder they are only scratching the surface.
way to go Lewin! time for you to exit the CPD. useless political hack...
If you call 311 and attempt to report a crime that occurred a few days prior, you will be given a hard time. The excuse is you waited too long. Lots of ways to kill crime.
What a safe, secure city we live in. I look forward to paying more property taxes for the pleasure of living here.
Just goes to show the state of the department. Half assed and piss poor leadership that's what CPD is all about. This happens when you do a report in the station. I can't tell you how many times the address i put in won't "GEO CODE". Their address is on their I.D. I've even went to the address to see for myself and it is the right one but yet our shit equipment still won't accept it.
This determination to "reduce" crime numbers comes right from the 5th Floor of city hall. The brass of the CPD, in order to keep their high paying jobs, go along with the program. This is why someone who can "tell it like it is" will never be promoted anywhere near the top or anywhere near where crime statistics are tabulated. This is why the street cop should stop giving 19P to jobs, and just give the citizen their report.
As long as the politicians and the electorate focus on "crime" issues at election time, this focus on crime reduction will continue. Until the electorate starts to focus on how our taxpayer dollars are spent and where those dollars are spent (e.g., pet projects for the connected, sports stadiums for losing college teams, anything but the pension funds for the people who make this city safe, etc.) will the fudging of numbers to show "crime reduction" become less of an issue. Because less face it, crime has been around chicago since its founding, and specific geographic areas of the city have always had the most crime.
Civilian here.
Why am I not surprised at this? So much for transparency. I hope you will monitor this on a weekly basis until the site is fixed.
Funny, but tragic at the same time.
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To the 016 crew who responded to the home invasion on the north end on N. McALPIN,
outstanding job and I'm sure deep gratitude from the elderly victims. I know manpower is short everywhere and things can really suck right now but seems like 016, on all watches, are really out there giving their all inspite of these times.
Nice work and proud to see you.
Wasn't surprised to hear it. Can't tell you how many addresses downtown are "invalid" when trying to type them into a report on the clear system and the closer you get to the lake the worse it gets. Making up addresses that will work is pretty common. Can't possibly have crime reported accurately in the neighborhoods of the social elite!
My neighbor tried it, same thing. He gave up and went to the station. After waiting over an hour, he finally got the report done.
Not defending this shit-ass department, but it sounds like these "investigative journalists" from CWB tried filing multiple false reports.
How many times has a SGT told you change that report from Burglary to Theft?
If you can't report the crime, it never happened! Don't forget, crime is down!!
Try not putting any periods, don't spell out the direction just leave it n,e,s,w, don't spell out avenue, street etc abbreviate it. At least that is what we do and it goes through. Maybe that's the problem
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why isn't Rahm required to testify at hearing regarding the increase in Health Insurance for retirees . He was the one person that pushed through the OBAMA Health insurance that promised a $250 per month reduction in health insurance .
That means whatever the cost of Health Care for retirees was in 2009 , it should be $250 less per month .
He is single handed destroying the retiree current life style , city is self insured so how can he justify the increases over the last 5 years . He has Money for Chicago to be a Sanctuary city .
Did I hear right? Someone said that at the last FOP meeting the actual manpower count is 10,500 strong. We are down 3,000 police officer from 1993 when I came on and not a peep from reverends, media, aldermen , and the community. No wonder citizens have to fill a police report on line now, there are no police to dispatch to non emergency calls now.
You got love this F'ing place for the entertainment value
JUST A CITIZEN ASKS:
Since the POS who occupies the White House has pretty much tied the hands of LE and all these crazy fucks are shooting at you and it seems to be "okay" by the POS, why can't you wear riot gear or something that covers your head? I understand the vest is to cover your vital organs but what about your head? Is it too hot? Too constricting? All these LE shootings are starting to get to me because they are happening more and more frequently and it makes me wonder why you don't protect your head. You may thing this is a stupid question, but I really don't know how you go to work every single day not knowing if you are going to end up getting shot in the head by one of these assholes.
@I Fart In Your General Direction
Looking up an address != filing a report.
Who the fuck believes these people anymore?
Nobody!
Regular folks choose to ignore it as long as it doesn't happen to them. It's been that way since the start of politics and policing.
They want to believe that their investment (business, home) is safe and that Emanuel is fucking the lazy public workers (cops) on their behalf.
If they ever added up all of these stupid press releases, stat dumps, bullshit press conference numbers, etc... we'd find that Chicongo has had negative crime since probably around 2008.
@I Fart-
CWB does more investigative journalism than most news networks. Granted, that's not a large amount, but still. But give them credit for pointing out to the public that the online reporting system sucks.
Once they click Submit, then you can go put down the keyboard and then go after them for filing a false report.
To the second poster on this thread (at 1:36 AM on 17Sep): I read your post several times and I still have no clue what you're talking about.
Anonymous said...
How many times has a SGT told you change that report from Burglary to Theft?
9/17/2015 09:57:00 AM
How many times has your sergeant had to explain the difference between a burglary and a theft? The difference between reporting and charging?
Why do you refer to them as JOKERS?
"How many times has a SGT told you change that report from Burglary to Theft?"
9/17/2015 09:57:00 AM
About the same number of times people on the desk refuse to take a report at all. Might help develop a pattern. Do the Insurance Screening. No insurance to cover the loss, no report for you. Takes money to buy justice. No work for me, no static from upstairs.
Battery victim comes in? Dr. Cop does medical screening, too, and doesn't even need to look up. Tell them they need to be admitted to a hospital first, so they can't try to take care of work/family tomorrow, and from there you can down a car the rest of the night and a Hospitalization Case Report will be filed. If you can sort of walk, f__k you and go take your lumps.
"Not defending this shit-ass department, but it sounds like these "investigative journalists" from CWB tried filing multiple false reports."
9/17/2015 09:23:00 AM
The problem can be in filing even one good-faith real report, and it's been going on long before CompStat and this geo-locating s__t. Never needed any kind of computer to just blow people off.
News flash -- decent people were brought up with the idea that if something bad happens, they should call the police. That way, the police will know what's going on in the area, and might even catch someone. Everyone is not "being an a__hole" or "working something" or "trying to break your shoes." They are just hurt, or shocked, or scared, and trying to do the next right thing, as they were always taught.
Put out that "they are the eyes and ears of the police," and then s__t on them when they take it seriously.
Police aren't making a fuss. Offender isn't bothering anyone, he's long gone. Victim is the one burning up the wires = victim is the problem. Make it go away.
There! Crime is down...
Not all ofc. play this way, but we all see the ones who do. Ain't right. Take a minute and help your brother man, listen to him. I know that most try. He still might not be able to sleep on his back for a week because of the bruise, his TV that he saved up for may be gone, but at least he will feel better that he gave you some info and was taken seriously and treated politely.
I humbly believe that to be the truth, as the good Lord gives to me to see it every day. End of sermon. >grin<
Peace, all.
"It's going to be a long and slow 2 years of waiting after next month. I will have to sign a paper stating I will not speak of or write a book etc. about the Chicago Police Department or the City of Chicago. If I don't keep quiet for 2 years, I can lose my pension. Now why would the city have a retiree sign such a form?? I know why. Because this city is corrupt and dirty as all hell. I will have a field day with this book."
9/17/2015 04:22:00 AM
Lesson here -- work on your material over the years, and the publisher gets it all a week before you check off for good.
They are just hoping you'll kick the bucket before you have the chance to say anything.
The biggest underreporting of crime is by us- the blue shirts. Here is an example: 1. A car gets dispatched to a crime that occurred. They just show up at the address/intersection. They don't see anyone and so they just 19B and leave quickly. They didn't want to do paper. It won't kill you to drive around or heaven forbid ask for a call back. 2. This is more prevalent. A citizen wants to report a crime and the officers talk the victim out of it. Because they didn't want to do paper. If every copper handed out RD numbers to victims who asked for reports then the true nature of reality in Chicago would be exposed. But nope, too many lazy coppers who "don't want to do paper".
City of Chicago treats Illegals as first class citizens , free Education , free lunches ,after school care , hire people to walk their kids to school , free book bags , medical check ups , vision check ups , dental check ups .
Yes folks , but work for the City for 30 years retire and city will take away vision, dental care , Charge you six times the price of your health care insurance premium while employed .
Guess who is paying for all the free programs ?
Yes , it's the person in the mirror .
"Jeb Bush says that his brother kept us safe. WTF!!! Ask the families of the victims from 9/11 how safe Bush kept the USA."
Bush had been in office a little over 7 months compared to Clinton who'd been in office the previous 8 years. Who had more opportunity to prevent 9/11, dickwad?
Go look up how many terror attacks were thwarted in the years after 9/11. It's easy. There's this thing called the internet. I ain't your Google-mama.
Not defending this shit-ass department, but it sounds like these "investigative journalists" from CWB tried filing multiple false reports.
9/17/2015 09:23:00 AM
Yes, because THEY are the problem, not the City's or the Superintendent's lies, the political misdirection, the blatant chicanery or the rising crime rate.
Jeb Bush says that his brother kept us safe. WTF!!! Ask the families of the victims from 9/11 how safe Bush kept the USA.
9/17/2015 08:39:00 AM
Well, in defense of Bush, the attack on the world trade center happened only a few months into his term. What precipitated the attack, the dysfunction and lack of communication between agencies, long predated Bush. And, some of that dysfunction is alive and well today. During the remainder of the terms of Bush, there were no successful attacks on US soil. They took the fight to the enemy, whether you agree on his actions ( the invasion of Iraq) or not.
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To the 016 crew who responded to the home invasion on the north end on N. McALPIN,
outstanding job and I'm sure deep gratitude from the elderly victims. I know manpower is short everywhere and things can really suck right now but seems like 016, on all watches, are really out there giving their all inspite of these times.
Nice work and proud to see you.
9/17/2015 08:55:00 AM
The way I heard it, an off duty responded first. Had it not been for the off duty, God only know what would have happened. More than one boss has uttered the words: 016 doesn't need more police. All the off duties live there".
Neighbor's wife called 911 about a suspicious man ringing bells on the block. The snotty dispatcher refused to send a car until the wife described him as a "male white". Then there was a big "OHHHHH! We'll send a car". Unbelievable.
Never thought I'd leave the City. Now I don't believe I will stay.
Years ago pammy zekman did a story on Chicago titled "killing crime" seems like another story should be done pam, or chuck, or dave savini (Burp), enough of the liars!
All above comments are true. But also, why don't we just hand out the formset for traffic accident reports, on traffic accident property damage only. Many suburbs do this.
(OT) I know SCC your not political but just wanted to say I wrote a letter to Donald Trump 725 fifth Avenue New York, New York 10022 about the social security reduction we are forced to take due to criminal dan rostenkowskis bill, even though we have 40 credits we still do not get full social security because we receive a pension. That is not fair as some of us worked before CPD and during contributing to social security we should get full benefits!
Got a reply signed by Donald Trump which says he supports military, Police and Fire and my concern will be regarded with utmost attention. Maybe if anyone has concerns and wants them to be addressed you could write to him, at least he seems to care!
"...So the almost bottom of the list gets to be a detective? Keep going until you promote the dumbest ones with the lower scores. Makes perfect sense...." (9/17/2015 09:22:00 AM)
— Not even close to the bottom. Maybe in the 450 -500 Rankings. The list is/was well over 1000.
The problem is Merit, which are always chosen from way below the rank order.
The overwhelming majority of the citizens in Chicago
are mentally lazy and intellectually disinterested...
"That's mean and uncalled for!
You Cops need to be taught to
stay in your place and act like
public servants! Your hostility
is alarming..."
Blah... &c... And so on...
The usual cast of characters on this blog
have been yelling for a while about the
concerted effort of political and media
regimes to re-define commonly accepted
and long understood meanings and definitions
to put forward THEIR narrative and agenda...
Poor ol' "layman" doesn't have a prayer against these
viciously insidious fucks with cards in the Rolodex of
(Chicago) Evil (& Fuckery.)
"Overall crime is down, but shootings are up."
God Almighty... We and others have taken many
pains to deconstruct nonsensical statements like the above.
That's right up there with "You have to pass it to see what's in it."
You so called "Silent Majority" aren't going to do shit to check
this nonsense.
Or are you?
For the last time...
Weasel words.
Slippery syntax.
Dancing, gyrating and ever changing context.
Lies of omission.
Prevarication.
Intentional misstatements.
And our personal favorite from an old Algebra teacher...
"A plausible constant rubbed against bullshit variables
yield a bullshit product."
Think of this every time McOutOfIdeas and Rahm al-Ghoul are on YOUR
motherfucking TV sets stealing YOUR precious time from YOU by
flapping THEIR lying cock-holsters about about ANYTHING involving the
profligate spending of YOUR tax dollars and YOUR inability via THEIR
incompetent management of Police resources; to move about in this city
In reasonable expectation of safety and adequate Police presence, coverage
and response.
Thus endeth the lesson.
Fact A Young Man in My Neighborhood Had His Recently Purchased Fix Gear Bicycle Stolen, From A Bike Rack. Yes, it was Locked, but not through the frame. He called 311 with the serial number. The call taker told him it was not worth making a report.
PS: Have You Ever Tried To Register A Bicycle On The City of Chicago Web Site. Very Difficult, if Not Impossible. I was unable to register mine.
Off topic from a non police officer...I don't think this will happen in Chicago because most curbs are not visible due to cars parking so densely on city streets, but I really hope there is some other way we can show our appreciation for you all.
http://www.youngcons.com/people-are-spray-painting-blue-strips-on-curbs-heres-why/
Anonymous Anonymous said...
How many times has a SGT told you change that report from Burglary to Theft?
9/17/2015 09:57:00 AM
Many times...
"I'm gonna SPAR you if you don't change and clear
those reports sitting in your queue..."
"By all means Sergeant... Just be ready to answer the C/R#
that's sure to follow."
>High pitched, 9 year old girl-like shriek...<
"I N S U B O R D I N A T I O N!"
"He wouldn't obey my unlawful, counter to department directives, order
so I demand he be punished."
Yawning chasm between using rank to pick a silly-assed
fight and actual supervision.
The New Yuck assholes ruined this job worse than the
native born assholes could ever hope to.
Cannot compel a subordinate Officer to violate Department
rules, regulations or the law because of what is accepted as
"Common Practice" by the Department.
You just have to outlast these bad supervisors on this job...
The Bullshit Boss Who tells you change that report from Burlary to Theft,And thinks If Some A hole kicks your door in and takes your stuff Is theft has McCarthys balls in his mouth.
Everything the city tries to update turns into a disaster. I remember when the Chris system came about. Before that I.r.'s were still being typed. I believe it was in the 125's that they started going directly to chris. An outside agency was brought in to enter all older records into the system. This all took place around the time hq moved from state to 35th and mich. as well so all the files had to be moved there. The end result was a whole lot of I.r.'s getting lost. I have no doubt that some shady shit went down too. If it wasn't for the clerks system, those lost records would have erased people's arrest histories.
To the above comment regarding registering bikes online; I registered mine and my wife's bikes in under 10 minutes flat. The city sucks in general when it comes to this stuff, but I honestly found no issues with bike registration.
Isn't callback precious. Most of them are lucky enough to still be employed, and they continue to refuse to do reports for people. If they feel really bad for them but are still too lazy to do the report they'll either transfer the call to the district station front desk or tell them it needs to be done in person at the station. I hope your friend was able to report his stolen bike.
Anonymous said...
All above comments are true. But also, why don't we just hand out the formset for traffic accident reports, on traffic accident property damage only. Many suburbs do this.
9/17/2015 03:45:00 PM
My car got hit in a parking lot of a nursing home in Wheaton. Wheaton Police said they didn't do that, private property. They handed me a do-it-yourself accident report. Nursing home owned by DuPage County, accessible to public streets. Do-it-yourself. That's it, end of story, adios.
It's not just crime that's difficult to report, but illegally parked vehicles and other 311 reports.
Try to report a commercial vehicle that's been illegally overnight parked on a residential street for multiple days: the format wants to know what style if tryck, but doesn't have all of them listed. If you don't get all the data 100% correct, the 311 center wont process the report.
Additionally, the "Tow It" app, which sends a picture and license plate information directly to Chicago 311, is ignored by 311.
Tried calling 311 lately? My son will go through puberty, meet his significant other, and I'll be a grandfather before they answer the call.
No wonder crime is down in Chicago: no one can report it!
If every copper handed out RD numbers to victims who asked for reports then the true nature of reality in Chicago would be exposed. But nope, too many lazy coppers who "don't want to do paper".
So the blue shirts are not to do ANY type of investigation. Just do the report and be done with it? Well, I guess that's why they came up with the Non-Criminal Case Report. Heaven forbid that, while talking to the caller/victim you determine that no crime has occurred. It happens more than you think. But thank God we have you young, up starts to help us out there while you are chasing your dream of wearing blue jeans and jumping on a DOPW pinch.
Any person that is not required to live in Chicago and does it willingly is high.
Re: Killing Crime.
AIRA is Ron Huberman's gift that keeps on giving.
Intentionally designed to bring effective Policing to a standstill
because so much counter-productive B U L L S H I T was
intentionally designed into it.
Every paper report that existed before the roll-out of AIRA
could have simply been computerized/scanned and put up as an
electronic document.
That would've made too much sense...
Anonymous said...
It's going to be a long and slow 2 years of waiting after next month. I will have to sign a paper stating I will not speak of or write a book etc. about the Chicago Police Department or the City of Chicago. If I don't keep quiet for 2 years, I can lose my pension. Now why would the city have a retiree sign such a form?? I know why. Because this city is corrupt and dirty as all hell. I will have a field day with this book.
9/17/2015 04:22:00 AM
Is that really true? If so, that's a mess.
Anonymous said...
To the second poster on this thread (at 1:36 AM on 17Sep): I read your post several times and I still have no clue what you're talking about.
9/17/2015 11:37:00 AM
Thanks--I thought it was just me.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Fact A Young Man in My Neighborhood Had His Recently Purchased Fix Gear Bicycle Stolen, From A Bike Rack. Yes, it was Locked, but not through the frame. He called 311 with the serial number. The call taker told him it was not worth making a report.
PS: Have You Ever Tried To Register A Bicycle On The City of Chicago Web Site. Very Difficult, if Not Impossible. I was unable to register mine.
9/17/2015 07:03:00 PM
Your random use of capital letters make my head spin because I feel like I'm reading it in stutterese.
If , according to this screwed up program, HQ isn't in CPD jurisdiction then this could explain why the house mice that work at HQ refuse even the most basic police services to citizens going there for assistance. The house mice direct any and all inquiries to the 009th district.
Wouldn't want to burden those house mice with having to answer basic questions or having to knock out an occasional report.... nope apparently they're too important and busy to be bothered with trivial stuff like very basic police service. Pussies.
Anonymous said...
Re: Killing Crime.
AIRA is Ron Huberman's gift that keeps on giving.
Intentionally designed to bring effective Policing to a standstill
because so much counter-productive B U L L S H I T was
intentionally designed into it.
Every paper report that existed before the roll-out of AIRA
could have simply been computerized/scanned and put up as an
electronic document.
That would've made too much sense...
9/18/2015 06:15:00 AM
Huberman's abortion was CHRIS
Anonymous said...
Any person that is not required to live in Chicago and does it willingly is high.
9/18/2015 06:00:00 AM
You have to stay high to be here. Vicodin is recommended.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off topic from a non police officer...I don't think this will happen in Chicago because most curbs are not visible due to cars parking so densely on city streets, but I really hope there is some other way we can show our appreciation for you all.
http://www.youngcons.com/people-are-spray-painting-blue-strips-on-curbs-heres-why/
9/17/2015 09:27:00 PM
PLEASE do not paint my curb blue to indicate that a police officer or two lives here. Please do not advertise that there may be guns in my home when I am not here. Please do not make me or my family or my pets the target of people who hate the police and have a grudge to settle. This isn't Mayberry; it's the REAL world where hate is being fostered against us.
If you want to show your appreciation, say it. Vote for pro-police candidates. Be aware the media is being used to vilify the police and their pensions. Contribute to police causes and support officers in their attempts to improve quality of life in spite of tremendous odds against us.
Paint my curb and I will be out there with turpentine, removing it, within the hour.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
All above comments are true. But also, why don't we just hand out the formset for traffic accident reports, on traffic accident property damage only. Many suburbs do this.
9/17/2015 03:45:00 PM
Can you say 'insurance fraud'?
That's why not.
Neighbor's wife called 911 about a suspicious man ringing bells on the block. The snotty dispatcher refused to send a car until the wife described him as a "male white". Then there was a big "OHHHHH! We'll send a car". Unbelievable.
If you were the Police, you would know dispatchers don't take 911 calls.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Did I hear right? Someone said that at the last FOP meeting the actual manpower count is 10,500 strong. We are down 3,000 police officer from 1993 when I came on and not a peep from reverends, media, aldermen , and the community. No wonder citizens have to fill a police report on line now, there are no police to dispatch to non emergency calls now.
9/17/2015 10:32:00 AM
%%%
That's sworn under the rank of Sgt. CPD is 1540 short but with all of the people detailed out of the D units and patrol it makes it feel worse. Mission teams, saturation teams, gun teams, excessive number of clout babies detailed to the feds makes the shortage acute.
Interesting! How about 911 continually transferring calls to the District Desks? If 911 doesn't send a car out, does that mean the call doesn't count thus lowering the number of "Calls for Service"? Again, making it look like crime is down and man power is adequate.
9/17/2015 06:45:00 AM
That is a fact. I work the desk and not a tour goes by that we don't get countless calls redirected to the desk from both 911 and 311.
They blow off and pass the buck on most of what they're supposed to handle.
Eventually the citizens get frustrated, aggravated and pissed off and simply give up.
Anonymous said...
It's going to be a long and slow 2 years of waiting after next month. I will have to sign a paper stating I will not speak of or write a book etc. about the Chicago Police Department or the City of Chicago. If I don't keep quiet for 2 years, I can lose my pension. Now why would the city have a retiree sign such a form?? I know why. Because this city is corrupt and dirty as all hell. I will have a field day with this book.
9/17/2015 04:22:00 AM
Is that really true? If so, that's a mess.
No truth at all to this......we are not asked to sign a form like this.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Re: Killing Crime.
AIRA is Ron Huberman's gift that keeps on giving.
Intentionally designed to bring effective Policing to a standstill
because so much counter-productive B U L L S H I T was
intentionally designed into it.
Every paper report that existed before the roll-out of AIRA
could have simply been computerized/scanned and put up as an
electronic document.
That would've made too much sense...
9/18/2015 06:15:00 AM
Huberman's abortion was CHRIS
9/18/2015 12:12:00 PM
We stand corrected...
But at this point it's
basically to-MAY-to
vs. to-MAH-to...
Two opposite ends of
the same turd...
Anonymous said...
OT
To the 016 crew who responded to the home invasion on the north end on N. McALPIN,
outstanding job and I'm sure deep gratitude from the elderly victims. I know manpower is short everywhere and things can really suck right now but seems like 016, on all watches, are really out there giving their all inspite of these times.
Nice work and proud to see you.
9/17/2015 08:55:00 AM
So glad it worked out and YES there are good working cops in 16 on all watches, but sadly not enough. I have been living here a long time and have my own personal experiences as well as hearing of other od/ret po's (and citizens) of no police response at times. I Hear from friends in the district how bad lack of response is, and that's verified dispatched calls.
Anonymous said...
The biggest underreporting of crime is by us- the blue shirts. Here is an example: 1. A car gets dispatched to a crime that occurred. They just show up at the address/intersection. They don't see anyone and so they just 19B and leave quickly. They didn't want to do paper. It won't kill you to drive around or heaven forbid ask for a call back. 2. This is more prevalent. A citizen wants to report a crime and the officers talk the victim out of it. Because they didn't want to do paper. If every copper handed out RD numbers to victims who asked for reports then the true nature of reality in Chicago would be exposed. But nope, too many lazy coppers who "don't want to do paper".
9/17/2015 01:27:00 PM
Sadly I agree with you.
If you were the Police, you would know dispatchers don't take 911 calls.
9/18/2015 01:24:00 PM
Sorry kid. In my day the call takers were the dispatchers. That has changed now, and not for the better. Can you find it in your heart to forgive and old man?
You don't have many friends, do you?
"PLEASE do not paint my curb blue to indicate that a police officer or two lives here. Please do not advertise that there may be guns in my home when I am not here."Please do not make me or my family or my pets the target of people who hate the police and have a grudge to settle. This isn't Mayberry; it's the REAL world where hate is being fostered against us...Paint my curb and I will be out there with turpentine, removing it, within the hour."
9/18/2015 01:17:00 PM
It's OK. Someone else went to the trouble of actually reading the story for you.
It says --
"A Texas man has started a new initiative in his neighborhood to show support for police officers.
"Anthony Welichko is calling it “The Safe Harbor Initiative.” As a sign of solidarity with police, Welichko spray painted a little blue strip on the curb in front of HIS San Antonio home.
"The blue strip is meant to let officers know that the person occupying the home has their back and appreciates their service."
It's OK. Someone else went to the trouble of actually reading the story for you.
It says --
"A Texas man has started a new initiative in his neighborhood to show support for police officers.
"Anthony Welichko is calling it “The Safe Harbor Initiative.” As a sign of solidarity with police, Welichko spray painted a little blue strip on the curb in front of HIS San Antonio home.
"The blue strip is meant to let officers know that the person occupying the home has their back and appreciates their service."
9/19/2015 03:59:00 PM
It's okay. I've read more than just that article this week, including the articles and a couple of everyblock posts that think it would be a good, or even better, idea to paint these marks at police family homes. Two of my liberal-minded neighbors have already told me they'd like to paint their curbs, AND MINE, too. But thanks for your smarmy, ever so condescending post.
"It's okay. I've read more than just that article this week, including the articles and a couple of everyblock posts that think it would be a good, or even better, idea to paint these marks at police family homes. Two of my liberal-minded neighbors have already told me they'd like to paint their curbs, AND MINE, too. But thanks for your smarmy, ever so condescending post."
9/20/2015 12:56:00 PM
No offense intended, my friend. Sometimes I just get frustrated with things, here we sit with the biggest info source in the world and some folks don't do much with it. It wasn't clear to me that people "were going to do you a favor" by marking you out, now I see why you were upset. I would be too.
All the best. God bless and stay safe.
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