More "Spots" Discovered
- The Chicago Police Department will soon move hundreds more officers out of desk jobs and onto the streets to battle the city’s surging violence — the latest in a series of transfers of cops from administrative jobs to patrol in recent years under Mayor Rahm Emanuel.
The department is reassigning 319 sworn officers from administrative positions to boost manpower on the streets without breaking the bank, said Adam Collins, a spokesman for the mayor. Those sworn officers include nurses, detention aides, property custodians and others whose jobs will be filled by lower-paid civilians, Collins said.
“The plan was borne out of a simple question the mayor asked about officers working in administrative functions: ‘Do you need a gun, a badge and arrest powers to do this job?’ ” Collins said.
Um, Detention Aides aren't sworn - they have no guns and no arrest powers. They're already a civilian program. As for "property custodians," again, it's already civilian for the most part. Some of the mail room people kind of need guns as they're transporting large amounts of narcotics and weapons. We have no idea about the nurses at the medical section except that a lot of them left after that nutty captain drove them out.
This is something like the fifth or seventh "transfer" of cops from inside spots back to the streets in the last 5 years, yet somehow, hundreds more spots are discovered whenever Rahm needs to show he takes the violence seriously, EVEN THOUGH CRIME IS DOWN! Perhaps someone ought to be asking how all these inside people remained inside after the last few rounds of "cuts," yet the same people who got sent out in the last "cut" ended up back at HQ before the ink was dry on the transfer order.
Cut middle management and you'll cut inside spots by design.
This is something like the fifth or seventh "transfer" of cops from inside spots back to the streets in the last 5 years, yet somehow, hundreds more spots are discovered whenever Rahm needs to show he takes the violence seriously, EVEN THOUGH CRIME IS DOWN! Perhaps someone ought to be asking how all these inside people remained inside after the last few rounds of "cuts," yet the same people who got sent out in the last "cut" ended up back at HQ before the ink was dry on the transfer order.
Cut middle management and you'll cut inside spots by design.
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posted by SCC at 12:37 AM
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Same old same old BS! they say this all the time and it never happens. More lies. Anyone remember when the tact secretaries were supposed to be on the street? Yeah right. Our tact. Lt. just told everyone to put her on the arrest reports so it looks like she was on the street. I'm sure this went on everywhere.
Funniest story was Gary dumped someone from headquarters couple years ago. Part of the first wave of putting inside people back on the street. Maybe about 3 or 4 months goes by. Gary sees them in elevator and blows a gasket because they were reassigned back to 35th again.they stayed at 35th this time. All a dog and pony show.
Around 2002 some genius boss came up with the idea of replacing desk police officers with civilians, to save money and to get officers with arrest powers out on the street fighting crime, damnit!
So they hired civilians and put them in places where those officers used to be. Some worked fine and after 10 years we had a good crop of Police Aides working and they replaced sworn officers. Some were replaced and some stayed. When these civilians had a day off or vacation someone needed to relieve them. Guess who did that? Police Officers!
So fast forward and a new genius says hey, if we eliminate this civilian position we can save lots of money without messing with the sworn budget. So they did. All those civilian positions were eliminated from the budget, a date was picked and they were all laid off, sort of. They were allowed to bid on other civilian spots at the same or lower salary. The one we had in out district was good, she was the hardest working person on that desk and knew the desk sergeant job and trained everyone. She knew booking procedures, bonding, everything a sergeant did she could do.
So they laid her off. To save money. They laid all the civilians off. But guess what, the need to have a certain number of officers on that desk did not change. After these civilians were all laid off they were replaced by... wait for this... Police Officers!
There you have a microcosm of how this horseshit department works. I retired three years ago. That is how the CPD works. Same crap with school patrol patrol officers.
A necessary action whose time has come. If they have a badge and a gun they should be out on the streets.
You left out that they are to be replaced by (Supposedly) lower paid Democrat party recommeneded civilains.
Re-assigned and detailed back for 90 days, to be pre-approved for continual 90 day segments, excuse will be that cop is the only one who can handle the office work or needs to complete a special administrative assigment.
Shows up on the desk roster as assigned but through slight of hand is detailed out.
What's the point of being connected if you can't use the connection?
Ok. Shootings and murders, no fuck that, Aggravated Batteries and Homicides are up 95% this month. This year is on track to be one of the worst in a long time. The New York experiment is a failure. How long until the mayor opens his eyes to Garry's bullshit smoke and mirrors ??? Compstat and all this deployment bullshit, scared gold star yes men and emailing each other to death does nothing to stop assholes from shooting each other.
Last time they did that shit I had to fto people that had twice the time I had. They didn't even know how to log on the pdt then I had to hear them cry and bitch!
Yep this story sounds so fuckin familiar.
There are some inside jobs that clearly need street experience to complete...civilians simply cannot do EVERY inside job...like review officer for instance. The best dispatchers have street experience ect...
I said it a few months ago and I'll repeat it again. Gang Enforcement is history. They will all be reassigned back to "busy" districts.
Blah, blah , blah..... It's all smoke and mirrors and a dog and pony show.
The new DC of 009 has at least 10 officers working in his office.
They're running out of room to put these "essential" people so they actually converted the quiet room into office space..... I guess that's utilizing every available officer to fight violence huh?
The city doesn't have money for pensions. But they have money for this.
http://chicagoist.com/2015/09/16/cps_spent_almost_3_million_on_pizza.php
300 are put back in the street and 300 are slowly filtered back to their spots
Maybe he could also ask ..... do you really need a gold star to do that job.... n gold pension
I I started in the 70's and recently retired. This shuffle is nothing new. People get moved on paper and those with clout still seem to end up in their spots. The real problem is the bloated gold star command staff. Read any book on management and span of control and the ratio the CPD uses would not be tolerated in a real business. Smoke and mirrors again.
Seems like every time I go the the academy, I see several officers walking around aimlessly. Let's start there.
Aren't there like 100 officers just running numbers for Compstat every week in all districts and units? or about the same amount in the D.O.C. doing computer work?
Best news I've heard all year
The question is, do they remember how to the job on the "outside"?
The first inside person they need to put back on the street is that PO that is assigned as a doctor in 018. Sure the prostate and testicular exams are free, but he doesn't even wear gloves. Very unprofessional. Don't even get me started on his bedside manor.
you cant even find a spot to park at HQ,i understand that the fire dept only use a quarter of the parking lot,read the copy of the inspector general's report as to who should be "inside",that would cut at least 250 full duty officers.If i knew how to get a copy of it, i guarantee the readers of this blog would be amazed if it was posted..
This is a worn out move, straight out of old Mayor Daley's playbook! Rahm is clueless!
Get Officers back on the streets, then hire civilians at a cheaper salary.
Um! security alert!!
The only problem is, there is a lot of important, sensitive information in our computer systems, programs and file cabinets. Hell, even the janitors and cleaning company people have more access in a police facility than a Police Officer does!
I don't believe for an instant that line: "I no speaky English crap, from those people! These people understand what deception and theft is!
Anyone remember a few years back during the Mayor Daley Administration, when a bunch of civilians stole Police Officers information's, social security numbers, had access to Detective case files to alert their gangbanger buddies about impending sensitive investigations that can get officers hurt or even killed!
Even a roster of a police district, complete with social security numbers was found during a search warrant far from the station affected!
Anyone remember that incident!
Well, I was a VICTIM of that information theft!
This Chicago Police department is NOT exactly secured, especially running on old operating computer platforms and hackable computer programs.
The Chicago Police department did NOT help in clearing my name from theft information, either!
All I got was, go make a report! A report that I wiped my butt with through no action!
I had utility accounts opened all over the 005 District, even though I NEVER, EVER in my Life lived South of North Ave. and NEVER will live South of North ave. let alone anywhere in that lousy 005 District neighborhood!
I have a better idea, Mayor Rahm. Cut the City council by two thirds!
That alone will save millions of favors and monies and possibly keep Alderman out of jail, because there will be less of them to keep an eye on and less thieves!
Now, this bozo Mayor Rahm wants to give the keys to the store away again, just like old Mayor Daley!
Hocus pocus dominocus. Now you see them, now you don't.
O.T. Resisting Arrest
Check out this article and video. What the fuck are we supposed to do when someone is actively resisting arrest and even tries to take away the baton from us? Do nothing? If that is what society wants then fuck it that is what most officers will do. As soon as this sort of stuff is videotaped the bosses and politicians want to condemn us. The same ones who also tell us that we should do our jobs and they have our backs. Fucking liars. Just read most of the comments.
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-stockton-officers-teen-jaywalking-20150918-story.html
Start with all the management people hiding in the office with 2 years on the job!
"Cut middle management and you'll cut inside spots [and costs] by design." -- SCC
...and as you said a bit farther down...
"We still haven't seen a legitimate study to reduce the number of aldercreatures, trim aldermanic staff, reduce organizational redundancy (even in the police and fire departments), slash and burn administrative staff (especially at the always top-heavy CPS), stop building stadiums for private universities, mega-parks, TIFs....the list is near endless."
...but everyone is too busy endlessly roaring about "FREE PHONES" -- a $5.00 phone with very limited minutes -- and "FREE LINK," when eliminating just one $120,000/year do-nothing would feed 600 people @ $200/month/each.
"Drive the poor out of the city!" as some keep insisting, and the huge RahmRaunerDaleyObamaJarrettLLC hedge-fund/SuperPAC apparatus will still be right there, "a giant squid that has attached itself to the face of humanity, sucking at anything that smells like money."
You're right -- we all need to aim 'way higher.
One sworn member per watch should be in lockup, no offense to our detention aides but I bet they prefer having one sworn member back there also.
Handling narcotics and guns, sworn member, period.
I would rather have a sworn member have access to my medical files than not.
I don't care if you put 3000 more officers on the street Rahm, with today's anti-police climate and every law and policy stacked against us it really doesn't matter.
as if we can find qualified civilians to apply for these jobs.....or even post an accurate job opening with salary/benefits and promotional opportunities to attract decent hires
They just brought a bunch of cops for the Contact Card Unit. Yeah, that's a thing.
they are called spots because you needed wack to get them mostly cops from the 11th n 19th wards which I might add both suck
as for me a worker vet and n/w sider a patrolman for life
Typical nonsense. Give it a few months they will all be in different Cush spots or the same ones
"We Will Have to Learn to do more with Less...!"
And the End result is Always More Crime, with Less Officers to Fight it...
Every time we have one of these inside spot purges most of them migrate their way back inside within a period or two. Therefore every year or two Rahm looks a hero when he does this.
Just a Citizen Says: DOES ANYONE HAVE COMMON SENSE ANYMORE? I didn't think so.
Get rid of many of these supervisors. That will save more money than anything. And cut the superintendent's salary in half. No reason for him to make that much.
IDK about you but i don't want some civilian, unsworn person having full access to my injury / health records with my full social security D.O.B. address phone # emergency contacts Dr appt dates etc..... not to mention a deceased (rot in hell u evil b*tch) civilian time keeper who always put me using cu on H and not crediting me for ext of t.o.d
Mr Mayor, there's a lot of civilians that do not like the police and hate on our jobs. If one officer or their family were to ever be placed in danger because of your cost cutting measures
WAIT, i have an idea.. Mr Mayor, why dont u have inmates and the paroled felons handle YOUR personal and administrative functions... u dont need all those staff members making how much m$ney with all that $ffice funds and them benefits and vehicles. .see, saving You and your family by entrusting people with the potential and motivation to access all your personal info, scheduling and familys info...
YOU SEE, SOME ARE JUST DUMB F*CKIN IDEAS
You can start with having the thugs (yes, plural) who robbed and beat your son do your security detail. Yes, watching your house and belongings while you out. Providing security for you and your family LOL Hows that for an idea
Can't we send middle managers to the steets of Englewood?
Some people you don't want on the streets. They don't want to be on the streets and the bosses don't want them on the streets. Nothing is going to change. Some will be assigned to patrol the parking lot, etc. For acwhile, then they will be back inside.
There's about 10 more on days in mass transit that he can put on the street. Commander how many pos you gonna take care of ?
HQ parking lot always full. Safe Passage was one PO per car when it started, now every car is 10-4. Most new PO 's at HQ go to CALEA which is the new clown car of the department. Always room for one more. And you get nice trips to the suburbs and Miami with CALEA. What a great program. CPD should wasted money, manpower and time on this years ago.
Spending 10 years inside= equals path to merit sergeant.
Here a spot, there a spot, everywhere a spot, spot. Old McMoron had a farm, eee, iii, eee, iii, oooh.
Medical section has 3 sworn nurses. 1 civilian nurse & 1sworn that has no nursing but does case management. There are multiple civilians "working" the front desk that can actually go do some work in the medical section as they sit playing games on their phones. I have only dealt with 1 sworn in the medical section that's top notch, helping POs & always pleasant. Clear out the dead weight sworn that have been hiding in the medical section for years ! Did they become the police to play nurse ? WTF
Jeez
What's this make like the fourth time?
This keeps up there will be nobody to answer the phones
Watch prisoners
They have to have a couple of "housecats" to watch the place
The StreetlLightMarksMan has a fire lit under his ass and in turn is lighting fires under everyone else's
Afternoons in 025 is staffed with people who had little time on the street. Most flee inside when they got the chance.
How about the recent uniform changes? These idiots who are so far from up the chain from daily patrol activities take away true utilitarian needs from our uniform standards and stick you with shit. Officer...it isn't important about how you physically feel or how you go through the motions of your job with a little less stress everyday, but how you look! What about our equipment? I.E. vehicles, in car camera, better radios, better weapons? Fix the shit! Hey but don't wear your nylon duty rig unless you have a molly vest cover or you'll get a write up. Even after GBTV program is coming to a close and new vest covers have been ordered by all at the uniform stores. No knit winter caps or easy to carry baseball caps. You will wear the rocky the squirrel flying hat and your crown hat. Fuck these inspectors with their piddle ass bullshit infractions. The morale in this department keeps going down with someone always trying to make changes which turn out be detrimental to the masses before consulting the masses. I'm glad I'll be outta here in a few years. This department is running like a monkey fucking a football! Reactive and not proactive.....
they tried civilianizing these jobs over and over again for the past 30 years, it doesn't work and the civilians just make things FUBAR.
Remember civilian desk people? It got to the point where they weren't allowed to prepare reports at the desk, criminal or traffic?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
A necessary action whose time has come. If they have a badge and a gun they should be out on the streets.
9/20/2015 01:05:00 AM
Ah, the provocative troll is back. (sigh...)
Maybe the DC of 009 could spare some of his ever expanding "staff" of full duty sworn officers. They've run out of cubicle space and have now converted the quiet room into office space. WTF??
GMac is a loser, and....City Hall is even worse....but the voters seem to be too ignorant to understand that
Please...look at 024 days. So many hidden dollies with NO TIME! One has a mysterious illness to work, she is the second watch secretary....always inside even when regular watch sec is in. Works a four hour tour daily and gets Lt SZ to have others do her activity so she can get VRI. She works side jobs but her illness prevents her from working on the streets of 024 and much less a full tour. Sorry but we have known officers who were injured or trully sick, and they were not taken care of. Instead they were told to go to call back on medical. But this no year wonder gets picked up on management every year....what a joke. Put her outside and I will be happy to wear my long sleeve shirt in 90 degree weather, with my five point crown hat and follow your bs uniform rules Lt. SZ. Until then....get off our case. Throw her out there to get you those Contact Cards.
The best part of all of this is that the media believes the mayor and the Sup. They are all afraid to question these things and they just bow their heads and report what they are told to report. How come the mayor and the Sup. are not holding press confrences to explain why the shootings and murders are so out of control, like they do when there is a temporary (weather related) drop in those crimes.
I'm all for it ... Starting with the tact secretary's especially the one we have in 002. How she got there is beyond me... She is a champ at making herself look busy all the while holding court for several hours with her inside buddies stopping in for a 2 hour long strategy meeting I.e. Discussing their vacation plans and who's dating who. Heaven FORBID you should interrupt her during the 2 hour power lunch ! Don't hold your breath fellow tactical officers !
it's a real crime in Chicongo if anybody is hired (public or private) w/o recommendation from Die Partei :)
Anonymous said...
Afternoons in 025 is staffed with people who had little time on the street. Most flee inside when they got the chance.
9/20/2015 12:01:00 PM
Some of you new officers and the aggressive foot patrol guys get angry at us officers who work the desk because we try to look out for you. For example: some of the bullshit arrests you come in with are simply not worth it. You make a stop and don't even have reasonable suspicion. "Acting suspiciously while walking north bound on Luna" is not reasonable suspicion. Or your case report and arrest report doesn't jive. That is asking for trouble. Or the time one of us reminded you superstars that if you get into a foot chase, always make sure where you are and where you are going. We are trying to help you. Stop making stupid bullshit street stops and then having us try to explain to you what constitutes reasonable suspicion, probable cause to arrest, search and seizure. In today's world, you must do your job 100% correctly. In the end we are trying to look out for you.
Does this mean that 008 caps lady who has never worked the street but always talks tough will have to work a beat car now???? Nah, I'm sure not. She always goes to the commander so she can get shuffled around to other inside spots... It's like ace rothstein in casino.. When the heat come down just switch your title like from casino manager to food and beverage director... Buh bye
Add the lieutenant from Ohare drawing heat on the unit yes it was in the sun times paper no secret! Read the tea leaves we are short how many lieutenants and sergeants and of course patrolman short not being filled? We are happy here you need to leave now we are being looked at! Thanks are they arming aviation police soon? See you in 007 boss!
OT, a little. I'm reading about the violence reduction efforts in use in New York and Los Angeles in today's Trib. I was struck by something. Sociologists have said that claims about the destruction of the projects in Chicago have not necessarily cause the spikes in crime in city areas and suburbs where the former residents have been placed, either through section 8 or other subsidies. The public is told that the idea that the crime increases are due to former public housing residents, the great majority of whom are black, is a racist idea. The police have long known that gang activity, drug sales and violence in places like Aurora, Naperville, the NW and SW sides and other areas is directly related to the relocations. Anyway, the Trib article (as voiced by former NYPD 33rd precinct commander G. McCarthy) says that a formerly notorious stretch of 163rd Street in Harlem has been turned around by re-gentrification, among other reasons. Isn't "regentrification" a code word for..white people moved in? So I will ask..if moving blacks into formerly majority white areas leads to dramatic increases in crime, and moving white people into formerly majority black areas dramatically decreases crime, shouldn't social planners re-evaluate their view on things? If anyone wants to fire on me as a racist, just do a bit of research. Check the numbers.
Midnight's in 012 has 4 people on the desk. One just watches movies online. Plus 012 has 75 people detailed out.
"... the mayor announced similar transfers ...the assumption was he and Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy had combed the Police Department for every last one [of those desk jockeys]."
– is an apology forthcoming due to the insensitive characterization of a crabby person of slight stature performing mundane duties in an enclosed environment ?
Will this affect the mysterious amount of "admin spots" ?
It's about time again, again.
http://www.chicagoreader.com/Bleader/archives/2015/09/18/let-sun-times-columnist-mary-mitchell-write-what-she-thinks-about-rape
Let Sun-Times columnist Mary Mitchell write what she thinks about rape
One thing I can say in favor of Second Amendment champions: They keep it simple. Buy a gun. Wear a gun. It's your constitutional right, so if you want to, do it. There's none of the queasiness that circulates around the First Amendment.
http://www.chicagoreader.com/Bleader/archives/2015/09/18/let-sun-times-columnist-mary-mitchell-write-what-she-thinks-about-rape
House cats = the real police!
Will full-duty Sgt. D.C., whose been hiding for years in the 4th Floor Court Section Office at 26th and California, be headed back to the 009th District, where she is assigned? Probably not, because in 009 she would have to work a full tour of duty.
They can start with the 3rd watch desk crew in 009. 1 p.o. Who has never worked the street (not a joke), and 3 or 4 others who berate people who come into the station to make reports so the people will turn around and leave without one. Same p.o.s treat even other police like crap. Completely worthless, and all very entitled who I'm sure are afraid of the street.
Please...
All manner of powers that be have been talking the same
brave bullshit about putting a hurt on connected hidey-holers
by putting their asses "back in Patrol" for how-fucking-many-
consecutive Police administrations now?
And m/fers ALWAYS find a way to percolate right back to
their cherished hidey-holes or they find a better hidey-hole.
There are healthy, able-bodied people on this job right now
who haven't seen the inside of a Blue & White for a quarter
century or more.
But in the meantime, no light-duty spots for officers badly injured
enough that they're not 100% for street duty but are still able and
useful in some other capacity because the clouted and the selfish
professional malingerers have fucked things up.
SCC is correct...
This is a management problem fostered by the culture of clout.
Who wants to incur wrath by hurting a political somebody's somebody
when they're somebody's somebody their self?
And you got rattle mind m/fers waving signs and baying at the moon
about how a certain demographic "be needin' to take over CPD"
not to right any wrongs or to ensure organizational integrity or even
to remotely ensure fair distribution of intentionally diminished Police
resources but to settle scores in the name of "it's our turn to run thangs"
by using their "take over" of CPD as a political weapon against upright taxpayers.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Medical section has 3 sworn nurses. 1 civilian nurse & 1sworn that has no nursing but does case management. There are multiple civilians "working" the front desk that can actually go do some work in the medical section as they sit playing games on their phones. I have only dealt with 1 sworn in the medical section that's top notch, helping POs & always pleasant. Clear out the dead weight sworn that have been hiding in the medical section for years ! Did they become the police to play nurse ? WTF
9/20/2015 11:35:00 AM
In response: Most of the PO's down in the medical section are hiding behind bs IOD injuries: Who is scared?
Didn't we save any money be getting rid of two districts and two areas? Wtf. We should get rid of, hmmmm lets see. Central detention. Let the burbs pick the fuckers up from the Dist that locked them up. On top of that we could close five lockups around the city seeing as how arrests are down and anovs are up. Close homan. Close traffic div or whatever they are. All staff members for all exempts must be civilians All of them.
I don't want to work with any inside desk jockey for the last 10 years. I wont feel safe on any traffic stop or domestic incident. I just know that they will be thinking about how to get back inside and who they can call to help them do so.
Get rid of the security detail
I had utility accounts opened all over the 005 District, even though I NEVER, EVER in my Life lived South of North Ave. and NEVER will live South of North ave. let alone anywhere in that lousy 005 District neighborhood! And we thank you!
The academy is loaded with people hiding. A complete sweep of that place is long overdue. Are there any recruits in there anyways?
Get rid of the inside people who are too "sick" to be on the street but seem to find a way to work part time jobs.
The 009th District front office has an ever expanding roster of full duty, sworn officers "working" in it. So many in fact that they've run out of cubicle space and have converted the quiet room into office space to fit even more in up there.
The ugly shame is, you have lost so many great Officers to retirement because of your games and bullshit. CompStat, loaded with officers that should be on the street. It's terrible, how do these Officers face the senior Officers on this job, shame on you! It's all about YOU!
CALEA, FOIA, DOC/CPIC, PSIT full of sworn doing jobs a civilian could do (and would do better - if they are experienced professionals)
If the other Districts are anything like the desk on 3rd watch in 024 with 3 desk officers a Watch Secretary a DSS and a Lt as the station supervisor, than I say there are plenty of officers to move back onto the streets.
You need able body officers and detectives to patrol the streets and solve crimes Gary and Rahmy? Just look into the plethora of personnel hiding within the friendly confines of Area North! More insider do nothings then you can shake a stick at.Each one has more political juice then the next!
Callback, Unit 376 has approximately 50 FULL DUTY officers, yes callback. Many have been there years with most afraid to work the street. The LT has protected them since she got their.
Office staff will have 0 impact on crime are they stupid?
Brand new detective went right back to HQ ... Why do you need a new defective .. never assigned one job at HQ??
WHICH nutty Captain drove them out of the medical section? Where did the nut case go to? Give us all a heads up because there are too many on the job
I Work in O18,I have a Problem with the Shit Radio that My life Depends on that doesn't work in half the high rise buildings I go in to,By the way Im not Offended by My Co Workers Marine Corp tatoo.
CPD Management method: If everything looks good, then everything must be good.
I've heard that the police union wants retired officers to fill the desk positions.
Why not look at the list of people on 'disability'? They can't all be quadriplegics. The newspaper did a story on those collecting police disability, and many had other careers IN ADDITION to their disability payments. Call them back to work in the stations, let them be the community policing officers and desk jockeys.
In the private sector, you don't qualify for disability just because you can't do the job you did before. A former neighbor was a mover; when he was too old to carry furniture and haul appliances, he could not get Social Security disability -- he had to work a decade as a hospital security guard.
A couple decades ago someone from an insurance carrier came to a small retailer I was working for, looking to place someone who had hurt his back on his previous job. They weren't about to pay him for the rest of his life, and if they found him a job he could do, he would have to take it.
Rocky the flying squirrel hat is the best , warm , looks professional .
Afternoons in 025 is staffed with people who had little time on the street. Most flee inside when they got the chance.
9/20/2015 12:01:00 PM
the front office is packed also, including with admin. sgt.
LEADs Civilian Smith here: ya I got a warrant / yes thats my brother. civilians are cheaper
No desk or relief spots only 35th street. Great watch the pension board get slammed with duty disability claims
How many times do you have to go thru this in 30 years?
I mean really. Its like Chinese water torture.
Guess some of us were correct, city will be hiring retired coppers to work inside as "civilians" make your call now to the "chinaman" to get your space! Hello remember me from 000 place? Click! Hello hello! Hope clout is still answering 😀
So 150 or so are staying in the district but "hitting the streets".... Yeah, ok.. Begin the smoke and mirrors. Cars that won't take jobs and will do positive citizen contacts or some bs like that... The others are going to day sat teams... Zero activity from them.. Fine work and way to avoid hiring cops rahm
Afternoons in 025 is staffed with people who had little time on the street. Most flee inside when they got the chance.
9/20/2015 12:01:00 PM
Smart move.
Anonymous said...
How about the recent uniform changes? These idiots who are so far from up the chain from daily patrol activities take away true utilitarian needs from our uniform standards and stick you with shit. Officer...it isn't important about how you physically feel or how you go through the motions of your job with a little less stress everyday, but how you look! What about our equipment? I.E. vehicles, in car camera, better radios, better weapons? Fix the shit! Hey but don't wear your nylon duty rig unless you have a molly vest cover or you'll get a write up. Even after GBTV program is coming to a close and new vest covers have been ordered by all at the uniform stores. No knit winter caps or easy to carry baseball caps. You will wear the rocky the squirrel flying hat and your crown hat. Fuck these inspectors with their piddle ass bullshit infractions. The morale in this department keeps going down with someone always trying to make changes which turn out be detrimental to the masses before consulting the masses. I'm glad I'll be outta here in a few years. This department is running like a monkey fucking a football! Reactive and not proactive.....
9/20/2015 12:35:00 PM
You know what? You're right! Why don't you leave NOW???
What about the drivers? Do you lose your driving ability when you get promoted?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
O.T. Resisting Arrest
Check out this article and video. What the fuck are we supposed to do when someone is actively resisting arrest and even tries to take away the baton from us? Do nothing? If that is what society wants then fuck it that is what most officers will do. As soon as this sort of stuff is videotaped the bosses and politicians want to condemn us. The same ones who also tell us that we should do our jobs and they have our backs. Fucking liars. Just read most of the comments.
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-stockton-officers-teen-jaywalking-20150918-story.html
9/20/2015 08:05:00 AM
Let him get hit by a bus or something similar. That's everyday occurrence in the ghetto. This and some other petty shit that they do all time, its not worth it to get injured or sued. Pick your battles wisely, try to keep that "go, get them drive" in super low gear. Society does not want us proactive.
Anonymous said...
Last time they did that shit I had to fto people that had twice the time I had. They didn't even know how to log on the pdt then I had to hear them cry and bitch!
9/20/2015 01:52:00 AM
I was laughing kinda hard to myself till I imagined having to FTO some of our geysers and a little pee might have trickled out. That would be a nightmare. I heard one go on a traffic stop and I was thoroughly confused because I don't recall that happening in years.
Anybody else see that the CPD baseball hat must be approved again I saw the commander of 001 and his minions wearing them at the bears game . Where was the inspectors for that infraction?
Only problem is by putting low wage workers in those spots security hits the crapper like the time the cleaning company workers had access to police records to do burglaries.
Anyone with less than 5 years need to have their AzZ on the fucking streets learning their fuckin job.
The desk or secretarial work ain't b n the fuckin police.
Go work for AT& T answering calls
So fuckin tired of seeing these clout babies.
Shit Is fucking ridiculous
Oh by the way 005th District has 2 Tact Lieutenants, 2 Tact secretaries, and 2 DIO and there's absolutely no communication going on between them. Come in KJ grab these people by the nutts and run your own got damn district.
You're to busy ordering food with And having chicken wing parties in your front office.
Everyone could use a little exercise.
You think we can incorporate this exercise business in our 10 hour work schedule?
Oh I forgot, let me ask the stIff back XO.
He seems to be the only one around here that can make a decision even if it is an educated guess.
The blind leading the blind. Maybe if you 3 bump heads, the light bulb will go off.
The most important part of leadership is supervision; you get what you inspect. So just decreeing some bullshit and tossing lumps out of the streets for a couple weeks til they sneak back inside means nothing unless you follow up with constant inspections.
But this isn't news. All these political hacks know the LIV's have the memory of a goldfish, so another round of "we put inside cops on the streets" is always news to them. Except for all the people who still have functional brains..those are the angry torch waving crowds that are supporting Trump and Bernie. Which is good, the only way to clean out this shithouse is burn it down and rebuild from fresh ground.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Afternoons in 025 is staffed with people who had little time on the street. Most flee inside when they got the chance.
9/20/2015 12:01:00 PM
Some of you new officers and the aggressive foot patrol guys get angry at us officers who work the desk because we try to look out for you. For example: some of the bullshit arrests you come in with are simply not worth it. You make a stop and don't even have reasonable suspicion. "Acting suspiciously while walking north bound on Luna" is not reasonable suspicion. Or your case report and arrest report doesn't jive. That is asking for trouble. Or the time one of us reminded you superstars that if you get into a foot chase, always make sure where you are and where you are going. We are trying to help you. Stop making stupid bullshit street stops and then having us try to explain to you what constitutes reasonable suspicion, probable cause to arrest, search and seizure. In today's world, you must do your job 100% correctly. In the end we are trying to look out for you.
9/20/2015 03:14:00 PM
Stop.
Trying.
To save.
Hard Heads.
Who know a lot.
Let them find out on their own.
Any way to tell if these are the same people over and over again? As in, they were sent out once, then trickled back to their spots, then sent out again, then trickled back.....
We need more officers out on the streets stopping this crime!
Their presence will put down the guns!
Haven't seen the order.
Desperately hoping some of the dogasses, hiding in Call Back get their asses pulled back to the streets.
Seriously, how fuckin long can perfectly healthy personnel, stay there?
"So I will ask..if moving blacks into formerly majority white areas leads to dramatic increases in crime, and moving white people into formerly majority black areas dramatically decreases crime, shouldn't social planners re-evaluate their view on things?"
9/20/2015 03:31:00 PM
It's being fixed. Obama has HUD mapping out the entire country, looking for areas that are excessively white. "“This important step will give local leaders the tools they need to provide all Americans with access to safe, affordable housing in communities that are rich with opportunity,” said HUD Secretary Julian Castro."
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/07/new-hud-rules-fair-housing/397997/
I saw the Jay Walking incident originally on COP BLOCK on Facebook. If want to see what the public is thinking g look there. These are your perspective jurors if you're in a police shooting that goes to trial.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Midnight's in 012 has 4 people on the desk. One just watches movies online. Plus 012 has 75 people detailed out.
2nd watch in 12 is so overstaffed on the desk that 2 people work 4 hours each day! Upstairs staff is a joke, P.O used as a "crossing guard supervisor"???? The commanders staff (3-4 at a time) taking smoke breaks every 30 minutes in the parking lot. Extended weekends with no accountability. You take a day off -8.5 hours. They take a 3-4 day weekend.....mind your own business. How do they accumulate hours and activity when they NEVER work the streets??? Yet can extend furloughs. I'd hate to jam up anyone, but I truly wish some outside agency would investigate!
Water under the bridge now but how is that Disability Dean can run FOP but can't work at ERPS OR 376?
Assign a civilian to run call back .
I predict the medical section to be overflowing in a few weeks.
Old story by the Chicago Democrats of Smoke and Mirrors.
Here's a fix : How about put more coppers on the street, Get these liberal judges and attorneys to disregard and dismiss all these frivolous complaints and lawsuits !! Get the Media to stop with thier bullshit! Let the police be the fuckin police!! And if your kid is caught committing a crime after curfew and is a juvenile, mandatory classes for the parent or parents that teach how to be an actual parent at thier cost or jail. Stiffer penalties on the convicted. Watch the crime drop like a rock.
Cut alderman in half, cut command staff in half, replace office dollies with light duty officers, restore beat integrity, restore any of the multiple named units to come in and storm problem areas, replace nut job supe with anyone left from 20 years or more who actually knows Chicago and knows our department and lastly restore morale !
The Court Section and the Alternate Response (Call-Back) Section are FULL of their Deputy Chief's full-duty dollies. Both units used to be staffed primarily with L/D officers, but Shear has changed that to hide his "friends."
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The first inside person they need to put back on the street is that PO that is assigned as a doctor in 018. Sure the prostate and testicular exams are free, but he doesn't even wear gloves. Very unprofessional. Don't even get me started on his bedside manor.
9/20/2015 07:46:00 AM
Thats the famous "Keesing Bandit"!!!
Wait till the job hires the required democratic criminals to man these jobs. All your personal information will be shared with thieves, pimps, drug dealers, swindelers, embezzlers , murderers, and the general gang banger. Count on it . Rahm is just giving the jobs to his voters to fulfill his campaign promises to the reverends.
Look at what was previously highered. Send me your tired your ignorant your lazy! Look at the work they did at Ident!
""Callback, Unit 376 has approximately 50 FULL DUTY officers, yes callback. Many have been there years with most afraid to work the street. The LT has protected them since she got their.""
The asshole that got me jammed up down there had absulutly nothing wrong with him, he used to brag about it. Meanwhile I went back to the street after 9 operations. Fuck them, let em stay down there, the "M S's" do less damage while in call back. Besides, its closer to Greek Town.
Wait what!! Please take all those entitled sitting at callback full duty. Tired of listening to gun, foot chase, and working the worst beat within CPD. Every watch has them so many who have been at call back full duty for years. Please send them back.
Well 012 days has an open radio passing spot for the up and climbers thanks to the 99 cent Bandito.
Critical thinking from the Suntimes.
http://chicago.suntimes.com/chicago-politics/7/71/972007/desk-jockeys-hitting-street-emanuels-latest-move-boost-police-manpower
"The only surprise is that there are still hundreds of officers left performing functions that could be done by civilians.
The last two times the mayor announced similar transfers at the behest of Inspector General Joe Ferguson, the assumption was he and Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy had combed the Police Department for every last one of those desk jockeys."
@ 9/20/2015 03:31:00 PM
If anybody wants to fire on you as racist??? I'm going to speak a little firsthand here.
"The public is told that the idea that the crime increases are due to former public housing residents, the great majority of whom are black, is a racist idea."
We are obviously members of a different "The public." I bought property in the south suburbs some years ago and a result spend a lot of time out there. EVERYONE I met and still know(black people) that had lived in the area over 10-15 years blamed the decline in the area on the tearing down of the projects. I heard it so much that at first I ignored it because it was like the Obama thing...McDonald's is out of soft serve...blame Obama. There's a hail storm in the south burbs...it's because Chicago tore down the projects. We, in general, don't see it as a race issue but it's because we don't lump all the classes together under race. If you never saw Chris Rock's bit about black people (working, middle and upper class) vs. you know what word (low class, non productive and criminal element) you should take a look. It's comedy but it is exactly what most black people say and think behind closed doors.
"Isn't "regentrification" a code word for..white people moved in?"
Here lies your problem and it's not racism. It's critical thinking. You're still lumping classes together in a race like they all live and get along together, and they don't. No gentrification is not code for white people moving in. If that's the case you should find poor, burn out, and uneducated whites (you guys usually call them "white trash") moving into gentrified neighborhoods. You don't really see that. They can't afford them. You see more white in those neighborhoods, yes, but not because they are white. You see them because they have the means to live there. The black you see there won't exactly be K-Town's finest.
We, as in black people, do not have many options for living in a "black neighborhood" that is working, middle or upper class. We lost our neighborhoods like that in the city to affordable housing and all that before it spread further out. All the people you are talking about getting moved to good neighborhoods now were moved to our good neighborhoods first. South Shore and Pill Hill are prime examples. They used to be kind of snooty people but now the thugs and dope boys live next door to them. Our college educated, working class, even upper class people often live in the same area we're making arrests and getting high call volume in. If you don't believe me ask yourself why a hard working man like Buck, God rest his soul, was still living on 115th & Church. That block has been really dangerous for over 20 years. Ask yourself why the Oak Park copper that got shot behind his house is still living off 103rd & Princeton at retirement age.
In the Marine Corps, "Every Marine is a basic Rifleman"...
The reality is, many police officers don't think of themselves as a basic Patrolman...
Somehow, CPD has fostered this culture, and it needs to be addressed.
Just My Two Cents
I was down at gun registration.
Nothing but a bunch of YOUNG uniformed dollies "working" there on DAYS and you can bet not a 40 hour work week.
By the way... there is NO MORE Gun Registration.. only for coppers. These do nothing probably have to stamp an average of 10 gun registrations a week !!! (about 30 minutes of work)
Doesn't take much for the "brotherhood" to show their true colors. At the mere mention of eliminating some office spots many are quick to turn on each other pointing fingers and spilling their guts as if they are revealing some big secret to the world. The jealousy and spite is just oozing out of some of you as you happily attempt to sabotage your "brothers". I am no fan of the desk dollies with very little time on the job phenomenon and believe that any inside spots should be handled by qualified individuals with the most time on the job. But you cant complain about coppers being in those spots, and then also complain when they look to civilians to fill them while ousting the very group that receives the most contempt. I show up to work, watch out for my partner and I, back up the other officers and do my best to make sure that we all go home safely. Aside from that, who happens to be in what office spot in whatever faction of the department matters very little to me. Quit betting bent out of shape over the possibility of someone elses grass being a little greener than yours.
Anonymous said...
they are called spots because you needed wack to get them mostly cops from the 11th n 19th wards which I might add both suck
as for me a worker vet and n/w sider a patrolman for life
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Maybe you're simply not the superstar you think you are? Or maybe you are a veteran P/O who is a worker. Thank God for you!
After reading this post, it's so obvious there are so many malcontents, hateful, jealous, egomaniacs, and morons on the job now.
How did this happen?
You rip on "clout". so you must not have any? Perhaps it's inner Department "clout" that notices and helps a fellow P/O along during their career? Some things never change-who cares? Whining about it isn't going to change things. And whining about it won't get you transferred as who wants a whiner in their Unit?
Just go out and have a good time. You are responsible for how you spend your tour. Take your jobs, don't milk them and maybe volunteer to take a neighboring beat cars job for them once in awhile. You'll get paid back for your favor.
If the job requires paper and you know if there's a possibility of a beef down the road-write a few lines instead of coding it off. How can the Sgt help you without that report?
And just remember too that the general public has access to everything posted.
Be safe, most of you are the best of the best!
By now you've probably figured out I'm retired but miss, yes I said MISS the job, most importantly who I worked with. And a lot of them are starting to die off. Where did all the time go? I miss so many!
I understand times have changed and some changes have to be gone along with. It's not the Superintendents fault-he's not out there riding with you and telling you what to do or how to handle a job.
He is what he is but there have been many who were worse!
Next guy could be the worst ever but you know what you got with GMac. You know what you got with your Captain. And Lieutenants and Sergeants... If they're good guys, don't make them look bad. If they're bad guys...well, I'd say don't make them look bad either as shit rolls down hill and the bad boss may start flexing their muscles or whatever they flex. If the boss is a goof, avoid them. Isn't that tough to figure out who has your back and who doesn't.
Just do the right thing, the best you can and whenever you can... Please.
Okay haters, it's now your turn. But know that whatever the case, I'm on your side until you prove yourself wrong with me.
"Stop making stupid bullshit street stops and then having us try to explain to you what constitutes reasonable suspicion, probable cause to arrest, search and seizure."
But that's what you're there for, to hold my hand. Daddy White Shirt said so, if you don't I will call, and he'll give you an earful.
Love all you Bozos Mfng the District desk crews. You need to look at the specialized units, talk about career house mouse collect a check thieves, squirelled away in their hidey holes.
What about all the sworn, full duty officers compiling stats to fuel Compstat?
You know the District Information Officer, CPIC Officer, Compstat Officer etc.
Do those made up positions require a gun and a badge? Inquiring minds would love to know.
Anonymous said...
WHICH nutty Captain drove them out of the medical section? Where did the nut case go to? Give us all a heads up because there are too many on the job
9/20/2015 07:50:00 PM
Go away Troll.
Don't forget the boatload of full duty officers sitting at callback for years constantly telling you they were the real police. Worked the toughest beats back in there Dist. And war stories like you can't imagine.
outsource call back to India
call back could be handled by civilians making $30,000 a year
no need for sworn police officers or supervisors at callback
@ 9/20/2015 03:31:00 PM
If anybody wants to fire on you as racist??? I'm going to speak a little firsthand here.
"The public is told that the idea that the crime increases are due to former public housing residents, the great majority of whom are black, is a racist idea."
We are obviously members of a different "The public." I bought property in the south suburbs some years ago and a result spend a lot of time out there. EVERYONE I met and still know(black people) that had lived in the area over 10-15 years blamed the decline in the area on the tearing down of the projects. I heard it so much that at first I ignored it because it was like the Obama thing...McDonald's is out of soft serve...blame Obama. There's a hail storm in the south burbs...it's because Chicago tore down the projects. We, in general, don't see it as a race issue but it's because we don't lump all the classes together under race. If you never saw Chris Rock's bit about black people (working, middle and upper class) vs. you know what word (low class, non productive and criminal element) you should take a look. It's comedy but it is exactly what most black people say and think behind closed doors.
"Isn't "regentrification" a code word for..white people moved in?"
Here lies your problem and it's not racism. It's critical thinking. You're still lumping classes together in a race like they all live and get along together, and they don't. No gentrification is not code for white people moving in. If that's the case you should find poor, burn out, and uneducated whites (you guys usually call them "white trash") moving into gentrified neighborhoods. You don't really see that. They can't afford them. You see more white in those neighborhoods, yes, but not because they are white. You see them because they have the means to live there. The black you see there won't exactly be K-Town's finest.
We, as in black people, do not have many options for living in a "black neighborhood" that is working, middle or upper class. We lost our neighborhoods like that in the city to affordable housing and all that before it spread further out. All the people you are talking about getting moved to good neighborhoods now were moved to our good neighborhoods first. South Shore and Pill Hill are prime examples. They used to be kind of snooty people but now the thugs and dope boys live next door to them. Our college educated, working class, even upper class people often live in the same area we're making arrests and getting high call volume in. If you don't believe me ask yourself why a hard working man like Buck, God rest his soul, was still living on 115th & Church. That block has been really dangerous for over 20 years. Ask yourself why the Oak Park copper that got shot behind his house is still living off 103rd & Princeton at retirement age.
9/21/2015 10:26:00 AM
I always wondered why the good black folk still lived next door to "shitheads". Why not move out to a better neighborhood?
9/21/2015 10:26:00 AM
As a realtor and a policeman I see a lot of educated well to do blacks moving in trendy neighborhoods. Not a lot but it is percolating. You are right, the good black neighborhoods have seen more lower criminal class move in and diminish the quality of life there.
I'm waiting to see what my union has to say on their web page regarding this. so far. I happen to have a bid spot, and am part of the Desk Sergeant grievance, so this will be very interesting to me. Citizens think they get bad service in some districts now, just wait...........
We don't even have enough cars now. Do they thing that riding 2/3 deep is going to have any impact on crime?
55 & outtah here so who fucking cares
No coppers are taking pay cuts or let go yet he's accruing more salary by hiring these civilians..... that saves money how??
Must be that Rahmenomics again.
Retired cops are coming back to take over the desks and administrative stuff. Here comes experience galore!
Don't forget the boatload of full duty officers sitting at callback for years constantly telling you they were the real police. Worked the toughest beats back in there Dist. And war stories like you can't imagine.
9/21/2015 02:31:00 PM
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you mean the full time female LT whos sister just so happened to make this blog also who is the full time, all time 008th district caps girl... neither of these girls worked a hard day in their life... please please please tell me this "hard hitters" are gonna finally have to work the streets... doubtful though.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Retired cops are coming back to take over the desks and administrative stuff. Here comes experience galore!
9/21/2015 08:53:00 PM
Um, no, they're not.
Angelo 'suggesting' it in an interview does not translate to "it's definitely going to happen".
There are no civilian nurses at The MSS. That civilian U think U see is a Witch!
When Rahm is done patting himself on the back and giving sound bites this will amount to not much of anything and most of it will be forgotten and the department will carry on as usual.
They looked at inside people who are "eligible to retire"--20 years and over age 50--and will be offering them a chance to retire and be rehired as a civilian....then shown the door and replaced by real civilians
Anonymous said...
WHICH nutty Captain drove them out of the medical section? Where did the nut case go to? Give us all a heads up because there are too many on the job
9/20/2015 07:50:00 PM
Go away Troll.
Listen brother, I'm no troll I'm maxed out and leaving with about a thousand more!!!
BaaahhhhhhhHhhaaaaa enjoy the wacko
What about all the Bosses kids who are the airport and other choice
spots. Put their butts back on the street and let them learn how to be a Police Officer.
FOP reps from every watch in every district , unit should submit a list of housecats , ghost cars , phony school , 06 cars etc . submit to FOP
FOP will then submit to all major news meia including CNN and FOX
smoke and mirrors
have the inside police work less than 6 hours
There should not be one sworn officer at 376 , none of those crimes are followed up on .
Why would Chicago pay $80,000 for police officers to write reports , $100,000 for sergeants to approve reports and $120,000 for a lieutenant to supervise the unit . That unit could be run by civilians supervisors , reports taken by retired police officers at half the salary .
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