200 One-Day-Suspensions?
Truth or rumor?
- Scc-can you start a entry regarding the nordstrom store shooting that someone leaked info to the media. Apparently everyone has to take a day suspension (about 200 officers) for looking at the report for "conduct unbecoming." I would appreciate what others have to say regarding this issue.
We've also heard reports that a number of officers are taking one-to-three days for having the audacity to actually look at the case report regarding Rahm's son being "mugged" in the dead of night during a phone call to a "college counselor."
This sounds like an effort worthy of Charlie Williams, a man who has stated that he wants to fire as many officers as he can on Rule 14 violations that were sustained during a very questionable period at IAD, and who is supposedly making noises about coming back to CPD.
This sounds like an effort worthy of Charlie Williams, a man who has stated that he wants to fire as many officers as he can on Rule 14 violations that were sustained during a very questionable period at IAD, and who is supposedly making noises about coming back to CPD.
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posted by SCC at 1:05 AM
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Keep working hard. CPD loves you and has your back!
Such tomfoolery
So fucking what if they looked at the report. WE are the Police.
Rule 14 ur ass. If u don't want anyone to see it then put it in as confidential
Truth or Rumor...
200 cops suspended for one day. Anybody that applies to think about this.
Did you vote for Rahm in the last or any election, or did you just not bother to vote.
And Deano, this last election, why didn't you tell all cops to vote, get your families and friend to vote? Have you got your new retirement job pegged?
If Rahm would have lost, McNumbnuts would be long gone and just a bad taste in our mouths.
Register and Vote. Elections have consequences.
Truth or rumor?
TRUTH...
except the number of coppers that are gonna get whacked with a MINIMUM one day suspension is north of FOUR HUNDRED. I believe the number the little IAD birdie chirped was 437 officers to be disciplined for accessing/printing the report.
This wouldn't have gained the traction it did had it: A) not been a high profile case, B) not involved the child of an active CPD detective and C) not been disseminated to the vultures in the MSM.
RUMOR...
the rank of the jagoff who "leaked" this most sacred information to the media is of higher rank than sergeant and less rank than captain.
You need to find a designated scape goat. Rather than 200 one day suspensions, the goat could step up and offer "take all the sins" of the officers and be suspended once for 200 days.
Remember what McHatchetman said when that one damn fool cop was fired because he was caught red handed taking a $5G bribe for letting go a DUI.
Words to the effect, I am PLEASED to announce that we have save the city over one million dollars because we have fired this officer....
Not, I am sorry to announce this officer did some thing bad and is being fired.
We are saving the city money because he is being fired.
Think about how much money we could save if we dumped this goof with four stars.
If you think morale is bad now it will be way below rock bottom under Williams. McCarthy will look like a Prince compared to Williams
Just do what I do. I don't look at any police reports. Thus, I can not follow up on any crimes! Who gives a shit anymore? This dept. is run by an incompetent buffoon that killed morale to do any proactive police work! I would waste my time leaving the coffee shop to look at case reports!
Truth....
How is looking at a case report 'conduct unbecoming'? Reading case reports helps you learn how to write and conduct investigations. Sounds crazy as hell.
If they don't want people reading certain case reports, why don't they find a way to limit access?
Now that's a way to save some money! Watch for more of this in the future.
Also, what were the dead, maimed, shot over the weekend?
From what I heard (coming out of FOP) McDrunkin wanted to fire all 400 or so officers that had looked up the report, whether by looking at the report itself or by just checking the major incidents.
Over 200 officers/detectives are taking a minimum of one day.
Over 20 officers/detectives are taking a minimum of 20 days.
And 5-10 are looking at being fired for forwarding this to the news media.
If you are a Chicago Police Officer the message that this sends to you is that the Chicago Police Department DOES NOT want you to be a police officer. Don't look at any reports online. Don't do your research and don't learn what is going on in your district that you work or live.
Keep your head in the sand until we tell you what you can look at and what we want you to know about.
How sad. What a sad little men that are running this dept.
This is proof the dept. do NOT want their Officers to do or know anything! Just say fuck it! 19-paul all jobs!
Nothing to see here folks. Please move along. Crime is down. Please stare straight ahead. Get your data from the media.
Crap if I only knew I could get a day off?
Answer your calls, nothing more.
What's wrong with looking at reports?
Conduct Unbecoming Definition:
Conduct on the part of a certified professional that is contrary to the interests of the public served by that professional, or which harms the standing of the profession in the eyes of the public.
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I can't possibly see how reading a case report fits the above definition. Everyone who gets a notice of suspension should fight it.
Can I have my suspension on x-mas day?
Truth. Spoke with a supervisor who was served with paper for the one day suspension.
The floggings will continue until morale improves.
Considering everything you do on a Dept. computer must have a lawful police purpose this is a tough one to justify, especially when you have coppers leaking info to the media. You must be ready to justify every job looked up and every name or plate run on your PC#. Be smart, don't give the Dept. any ammunition!
Get a good attorney. Its your job to be informed on any incident, crime or investigation that pertains to your district or area.
maybe they should all be put in the BIS
That's why I prefer a vehicle with "no" computer. Can't look up stuff and I have to go to the station to do all my reports,..
Funny thing happened in our district, the p.o.'s and sgts that looked at it all got a day, but Lt's and above didn't get any discipline. Typical cpd.
So now if a major incident happens in the city we can't even look to see what happened. This is honestly getting absolutely ridiculous. When is this NY experiment going to end?
If true grieve it and you will get your day back. Unless they can prove you disseminated the report they can suck it.
don't read any arrest or case report for information.
If you are not conducting a preliminary or follow-up investigation then don't look up any report.
The Department wants police officers who have not any intelligence about what goes on around us; the Department is cultivating a police culture of report writers, not crime fighters.
The Department should just hire report writers from India or the Philippines to write reports.
Transparency works both ways!
welcome back Charlie , time for accountability for police supervisors
Here's the problem. We all know what the rules are. In the past the rules have not been enforced, but they were still there. We all know what the rules are and the consequences for breaking the rules. It's like we take the lead off first base and think we are too quick to get picked off. If you get picked off, you can't blame the pitcher. A one day suspension is no biggie. If you get caught doing something wrong don't use the excuse that the Department never did anything in the past about this. You knew it was wrong, accept the punishment and move on. Don't do it again or don't get caught.
That'll solve our manpower issues...No to mention the Morale problem as well. Good Going management. Way to lead.
O.W. Wilson is turning over in his grave.
It is true.. I am one of the 200
FOP told me to tell a PO to request a hearing. Who's going to hear the PO though? McCarthy? He's the one who recommended the one day suspension.
I must be a hater as defined in the urban dictionary but he is getting a large pension and has a job with the city and is getting a large salary and he wants back into Cpd,im hating I'm just saying,im a hater,instead of accusing him of being a greedy money whore and a power freak,I'll just say I have a hater problem,it's my fault ,I Need therapy!
Very high up changes afoot?
I've been watching hard core midget porn on department computers... diggity diggity...
First of all if the department doesn't want a report read they can make it confidential with one click of a box in CHRIS. As far as I'm concerned any report not marked confidential is fair game. However, anybody reading reports and disseminating information to the public especially the media can go fuck themselves. They deserve to get suspended or fired.
Now, the reading of reports about other officers and their families makes me question your motives. It's kinda of a dick move.
Anonymous said...
Here's the problem. We all know what the rules are. In the past the rules have not been enforced, but they were still there. We all know what the rules are and the consequences for breaking the rules. It's like we take the lead off first base and think we are too quick to get picked off. If you get picked off, you can't blame the pitcher. A one day suspension is no biggie. If you get caught doing something wrong don't use the excuse that the Department never did anything in the past about this. You knew it was wrong, accept the punishment and move on. Don't do it again or don't get caught.
10/05/2015 10:02:00 AM
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That was very well sail. Too many officers want to blame someone else for their problems. It is time to look in the mirror and take action with the main problem. I am assigned to the academy; and now, because of this scandal, we have been tasked with creating a system for information retrieval. One idea is to create a document that requires supervisory approval before any information is retrieved. The document will then have to be scanned for archival purposes.
Thank you guys for making this job harder than it really is.
Anonymous said...
How is looking at a case report 'conduct unbecoming'? Reading case reports helps you learn how to write and conduct investigations. Sounds crazy as hell.
10/05/2015 04:59:00 AM
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You said it! It is crazy as hell to argue that an officer is looking to improve himself or herself.
Anonymous said...
This is proof the dept. do NOT want their Officers to do or know anything! Just say fuck it! 19-paul all jobs!
10/05/2015 06:31:00 AM
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Sure, and leave the problem for the next officer who gets the job. Wait until a supervisor starts taking corrective action against you for not handling your jobs properly. You obviously work in a district with very little supervision.
Fuck this department and fuck that suspension. Where the hell do we live- USA? Seems more like a damn commie dictatorship here with each passing day! Why the hell do they act like these reports are the Covenants of the Arc? Hell, even those were published in stone and advertised! They are police reports- public information which anyone can request to see. No one batted an eye when the asshole media gave out officer Wilson's info, or when they published addresses of registered gun owners. But god forbid you release addresses of those registered sex offenders - the ACLU would be on it like steam on fresh polar bear shit, defending those poor criminal's rights to privacy!! Rahm's kid and the so-called big bad robber incident, Hillary's emails, and Obama's birth certificate are all confidential but just see how private any one of those police reports are when we are under the microscope. Information is power, so the less informed we are, the more bullshit they can feed us to cover their amoral, corrupt, and illegal conduct.
I hope they are all served on the same day, preferably the weekend!
My God, if reading a case report is 'conduct unbecoming', WTF?
A old school copper I knew named Mattioli once took a BS suspension for three days, and upon being presented with the paper, he refused to take only three days. He defiantly stated "I take only five days suspensions". He signed off on a five day hit, went to Florida during the winter and sent a post card to the Department every day he was there...
They can take everything away but our will to live...:-)!
You sign in with your PC#, look up reports for no purpose that can be explained and in some cases, print it. You're an idiot.
The only guys who could justify it are people who can articulate a valid police purpose i.e. robbery dicks, tact or beat guys looking for a description or attempting to see if it's a pattern. If you work in 004 & look up this report in 017 knowing its a political heater you need a day off.
If you forwarded anything to the media you are a fool and an asshole. The same reporter who pats you on the back for being his "friend" will bury you in Sunday's paper if you are involved in any controversial case.
take charlie back, he sucks here at S&S
Anonymous said...
Conduct Unbecoming Definition:
Conduct on the part of a certified professional that is contrary to the interests of the public served by that professional, or which harms the standing of the profession in the eyes of the public.
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I can't possibly see how reading a case report fits the above definition. Everyone who gets a notice of suspension should fight it.
10/05/2015 07:34:00 AM
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And the FOP is advising officers to take the one day suspension because originally McStupid wanted to fire all 400+ officers that accessed the report. Whether it was the report itself or viewed via major incident report.
SMH
I don't see how looking at a "high profile" case warrants a one-day suspension. Curiosity is an occupational hazard for police officers. We want to know what is going on because that is how we fight crime. And only 200 officers looked at that report? Everyday in the administrative messages we are given officer safety alerts, notices about thefts of weapons, burglaries, robberies, and murders with the RD number INCLUDED. So does that mean we cannot look up those reports?? More officers should be looking up reports than there are.
I can't figure out my password and I'm taking 3 days.
Just because I looked it up and read it???? Well I guess just wait and see when I get my day then.
This is true! They are also looking at coppers using certain keywords, that look up things on computer and shopping! Know of a copper who is an fop rep that deleted his facebook as is 1 of the many looking at time or more for posting things on facebook, and not only that his youtube antics racial things he looked up and watched on company time fop rep what a moron! Bottom line most phones has internet capability use your own phone to look up things, department computers are property of the city and anything you look at could be scrutinized! Big brother is here! Watch out, you will never find another job that pays this well, Think think think use your head as more than a hat rack!
There are many police officers who are great parents to their children. But there a few who think that their kids don't have to follow the law, or that if they get caught dirty that they should automatically get a break. Not so. . . . Some (just a few) think that their kids are above the law because they wear a badge.
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/7/71/987284/former-chicago-lieutenant-sues-alleged-harassment-including-fake-facebook-page
Chief Rivera just retired today because of this
I would also recommend that you never give anyone a copy of a report with your PC#. This includes ASAs. They are notorious for leaking info to the news media. If that copy of your report with your PC# ends up in possession of unauthorized person(s) you will swing for it.
Message received, propassive policing engaged.
Auto pilot On, ahead FULL slow.
Proceed.
Beep. Beep. Beep........
If you don't want a police officer to view a police report then tell me again why do officers have access in the first place??? If you want it hush hush make it confidential. Failing to do properly make sure a confidential report is secure...discipline should fall on THAT person for allowing something to be free to pull up in the first place!!!
Just think of all those attorney's that are going to use this against these officers in civil suits. You see conduct unbecoming go's to credibility of the officers. We testify at the grand jury, criminal and civil cases.Just think how a sustained discipline violation fior this particular rule 31 violation can come back to bite the shit out of this department and the city as a whole. If they wanted to have kept that report confidential they should have locked it out!!!
But this is just the tip of the iceberg. The next one will be coming soon. Proactive policing is dead!!!!!
Get a good attorney
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the attorney's fees will exceed whatever anyone loses from the suspension.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Here's the problem. We all know what the rules are. In the past the rules have not been enforced, but they were still there. We all know what the rules are and the consequences for breaking the rules. It's like we take the lead off first base and think we are too quick to get picked off. If you get picked off, you can't blame the pitcher. A one day suspension is no biggie. If you get caught doing something wrong don't use the excuse that the Department never did anything in the past about this. You knew it was wrong, accept the punishment and move on. Don't do it again or don't get caught.
10/05/2015 10:02:00 AM
There's a rule against accessing an unrestricted case report? Since when?
If the supervisor, or superintendent, want to restrict a report, they have the capacity to do it, so maybe the onus should be on the person(s) who failed to do so.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
From what I heard (coming out of FOP) McDrunkin wanted to fire all 400 or so officers that had looked up the report, whether by looking at the report itself or by just checking the major incidents.
Over 200 officers/detectives are taking a minimum of one day.
Over 20 officers/detectives are taking a minimum of 20 days.
And 5-10 are looking at being fired for forwarding this to the news media.
If you are a Chicago Police Officer the message that this sends to you is that the Chicago Police Department DOES NOT want you to be a police officer. Don't look at any reports online. Don't do your research and don't learn what is going on in your district that you work or live.
Keep your head in the sand until we tell you what you can look at and what we want you to know about.
How sad. What a sad little men that are running this dept.
10/05/2015 05:56:00 AM
Your last sentence indicates you've already seen the changes made at the top of the Dept today.
RIDICULOUS choices for promotions. OUTRAGEOUS.
The bodies have begun to hit the floor at 35th Street. "It is your fault MY plan is not working"!!! Where's that 'Hitler at the desk' video? Time to roll it out yet again.
OT
Are you F-ing joking? Andrews promoted to Chief of Dicks? How much money did that A Hole cost us for his mishandling of the Vaneko case. What's next? Walsh promotion to chief of records keeping? I give up!!!!
Looks like you members of Lodge 7 of the CPD are in for the same level of scrutiny the Chicago Fire Department's CFFU Local 2. Over 800 contract grievances for approximately 4500 members. To put that in perspective New York's FDNY with a membership 3 times our size at approximately 13,500 has less than 20.
That's not a misprint.
They announced the command staff changes at R/C today - was very, very surprised to hear Juan Rivera was 'forced to resign' from his IAD spot.
Anyone have insight into what happened? He was an awesome boss in 025 and Semper fidelis to the bone.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Remember what McHatchetman said when that one damn fool cop was fired because he was caught red handed taking a $5G bribe for letting go a DUI.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I got a "$5.00" tip once while writing an accident report many years ago.
A piss bum at 49th & Michigan did the old fist bump on a car scam and said he was struck by the vehicle. The driver was a nice "working" man" and I let him know from the git go that my report of the incident was going to be very favorable towards him.
When I motioned for him to come over to my squad car to get his copy of the report, he tried to slip me five bucks. Nope, can't take it and besides, it was my pleasure to write his report, just to screw up the bum's scam efforts.
He was walking away with report in hand when he turned, balled up the fin and threw a strike through my window, and then actually RAN away.
Yeah, I suppose I should have taken it into the station, held myself down, done the inventory, and wasted the taxpayer's money, but, I didn't. My bad!
Instead, later in the day, I gave it to an old homeless guy that I always saw around the district.
This story was not for the coppers who read this blog because they know all of the small unknowns they do for citizens and never get an "atta Boy" for their daily acts.
This was for the citizens, who might get a chuckle out of it, but more importantly , maybe, just maybe, raise their awareness of what cops really do.
If the department didn't want persons to see the case report then they should have put a block on that like they do for the Major Incident report. Put that into your grievance.
I'll preface this question by stating that I'm just a lowly suburban cop who enjoys reading the blog, but how can they suspend anyone for reading a department report? We read reports all the time to keep up with what's going on in our City. If it wasn't locked up in a secure place or marked as "CONFIDENTIAL" then what's the big deal? No wonder we've hired 3 CPD officers in the last year. All they talk about is how much they now hate the City, hate the CPD, hate McCarthy, and most of all hate the mayor. The way things are going the only officers you'll have left at CPD are the ones with too much time to leave or the ones who are too stupid to pass the suburban hiring tests. Anyone with a lick of intelligence & common sense is going to jump ship and I wouldn't blame them. It doesn't bode well for the future of CPD.
The officers that leaked information to the media I can understand. How would an officer simply looking at a report be against any rules? I would fight that.
O.T. The First dep. announced his retirement today.
If you logged in and were able to see the report you were an authorized user!
If you printed out the report and were not on the investigation or an officer in that district or a Detective in that area or following up on patterns involving similar offenders then may be a day off will serve you well.
If you can't beat this beef i don't want you on any of my scenes.
May be the GPRs will leak if RAHM thinks he can bully blue shirts.
How much will the city save off of this by fucking these cops? Between $50,000 and $100,000?
Just don't use the computers unless you need to.
Do the bare minimum.
And if you're one of the 200 don't do another ounce of work your entire career.
Always thought looking at reports is ok but disseminating the information isn't.
- What police service does looking up and reading a case report?
(How about seeking knowledge of current criminal activities)
At what time does the Dept. deem a case report too sensitive to be read by the inquisitive?
(When they say so, even after the fact)
Does this mean the over-circulated xerox copy will once again become the standard?
The paper car or review will be taxed.
Officers should read about, and know about, all crimes and patterns of crimes occurring within the city. No way this stands up if challenged. Why would anybody not challenge the suspensions?
The real problem is when a merit hack try's to decide what we are supposed to do. 1 day for accessing a report, that's stupid, did Charlie ever even write one or just jump on others.
The countdown clock for Stuporintendent McBoozy has officially started.
A dozen-plus of the Black Caucus alderwhores have called for his ouster and replacement. They cited the usual rigmarole: Empty promises, not enough diversity, not doing enough to keep the blacks from self-destruction (in so many words) and - get this - not hiring enough police officers to make up for the numbers that have retired.
Should make for an interesting budget meeting tomorrow.
Adios, D-Bag.
OT I'm on furlo, just read a memo on the internet about Wysinger retiring and Escalante being made 1st dep. Any back story here?
It's sincerely disappointing that your employer would paint everyone with a broad brush and dole out punishment to anyone/everyone who looked at a case report without any sort of due process.
So much for fairness.
Sad.
"Crime is down..."
They're also counting on these suspensions to put a damper
on the lively, revelatory, "Rebellious, Inflammatory and Insubordinate" thoughts
and musings on this blog that for some unknown reasons are seen as some sort
of "Impediment" to the Department's goals and mission.
"Who the fuck do you Coppers think you are?
Like anybody of importance wants to hear the
"Truth" from you guys?"
This many shades of gray, "Conduct Unbecoming"
Rules & Regulations ass-pull by McShit-Out-Of-Ideas,
Tracy and the shitting-their-pants, home grown, knee-walking
exempt echelon (who are desperately hoping not to be shoved
against a wall of sandbags and ordered shot for incompetence,
cowardice and failure of leadership by the next Superintendent)
is typically the last gasp of a dying Police administration.
"Nothing else is working so fuck it, let's turn the cannons of
of catch-all "Jack-Pot" discipline around toward the Blue Suited
rabble and load them with all manner of scrap, shrapnel, dung,
shit and nonsense and light the fucking wick..."
These corrupt fucks want to cause as many casualties and set
up as much ghastly infection in the collective Police body as possible.
None of them rate as any kind of real Policeman.
This they know.
Which is WHY they intentionally pursue a piss-poor
leadership model and policy failure after policy failure...
NYAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!
😂😈😜
Speaking of Devils, Imps, Malevolent Spirits
and other such bad ju-ju?
Just now.
On our TV screen...
"ALDERMEN WANT TOP COP FIRED"
Yup!
A dying Police Administration.
You New Yuck law enforcement Gypsies might as
well load your poisonous Compstat potions and elixirs
onto your gaudily painted wagon and clip-clop the fuck
out of town...
You thieving, carnival ride operating, chimney shaking charlatans.
Go Away...
May you hang that wagon on a rail crossing with
a high crown and a long double-stack hits it
so that you clowns and your adherents will NEVER
have a chance to poison another city and another
Police Department with your baseness, chutzpah,
criminality, disruptiveness, ego, foolishness and
misdirected venality.
May Chicago stand as a shining example of the
horrors brought on by a Northshore Shit-Ass and
an oversold, classless New Yuck fuck-up who has
had the Feds walking behind him in his footprints
Since his days as an NYPD boy wonder who fancied
himself a Police God and a re-incarnate of Sir Robert Peel,
Cesare Breccaria and O.W. Wilson.
>Kazoo & Slide Whistle Band playing
a merry accompaniment to a Fart-Noise
and eye-watering stink<
Watch your step...
G-Mac's "legacy"
is stinking stuff.
Looks like I hit the medical soon after. Maybe even twice before x-mas.
Oh no more changes, heck it's not even Friday will the new first deputy escalante practice standing and staring into oblivion? Will the new chief of detectives andrews practice? Will the iad boss welch go after the coppers for more minor infractions? The Titanic was a great ship, unsinkable and we all know that story, shuffle the chairs,play the music same old nothing changes,instead of demoting failure they promote it! Does your appearance command respect new bosses? yea,ok sure!
You can read the news release like the experience and great education, wow!
Some guy wrote...
"...If Rahm would have lost, McNumbnuts would be long gone and just a bad taste in our mouths."
Suggestion: Keep your mouth shut so nothing bad tasting gets inside.
To those trying to justify this... You are the police. You have the access and authority to view other case reports. This is done for follow up, education and learning about other areas/crimes and knowing what is happening. This is not Rule 14 nor is this unbecoming. Grow a set of balls, go to the media, get the union involved and take it right back to this department with a hostile work environment issue among others. If they don't want Officer's looking up other Officer's reports, then remove that access and leave that strictly to Investigations and Administration (both of which benefits not many).
Charlie Williams is an idiot. Never the real police.
Proof that the dept deeply cares about us all and wants us to be the best officers we can be. Everyone should step up their game now, risk it all in that next car chase, and generate tons of activity. If this doesn't motivate everybody, then nothing will
so....some folks did not follow "the rules".....do the thugs and gangbangers follow "the rules"?.....does the State's Attorney follow "the rules" when it comes to charging people?.....do the judges follow "the rules" when it comes to trial conduct, and sentencing?....does Cook County, and it's jail system, follow "the rules" when it comes to incarceration?...they can take "the rules" and.....(fill in the blank)
Not talking junk here but the supt held a news conference today talking about retirements and promotions. He also talked about defending his decision of keeping up overtime instead of hiring more officers and pulling people from inside spots outside. Now, obviously not public or even official but the next unit to go is gang enforcement if there is more cutting back to "the beat." What I don't get though, is that the guy i talked too said they won't actually go back to districts but all
Be assigned to districts as part of the area dept chief as uniformed/marked car saturation teams. Don't we have enough saturation teams already??? The 300 they just launched from inside spots are going to district saturation teams.. Is this a New York thing? I'm all for more guys on the street but how does this really help the district? And isn't gang enforcement pretty much just saturation teams anyways? I'm not knocking them, I'm just not very familiar with all the Homan units. If you ask me, they need to cut a lot out of narcotics too.. It seems like any copper I run into these days seems to work in natcotics.
when you are driving a Department vehicle when the PDT clicks message received: don't bother to read it! just delete it! whether its regarding an investigative alert just issued, missing person, wanted vehicle, etc
We are all dummies: Policing For Dummies is now better said for you 200 police officers!
Its better not to know what is going on then to know what is going on.....
There is no doubt Charlie Williams will be returning. Terry Hilliard and Charlie go way back from when Hilliard brought Charlie to the FBI Task Force from C5. Terry Hilliard is handling the negotiations for the return of Charlie No Mercy Wiliiams who has a stern rod of correction that he will quickly use to correct aberrant behavior. Charlie is highly respected by the FBI and the US Attorney's Office. He has also worked very well with the Drug Enforcement Agency of America, even convincing one of their agents to resign and join the CPD. . Charlie led the CPD Hurricane Katrina rescue mission and before that stood up the CPD SWAT. All the lick hitters and hustlers will leave the department in droves once he is appointed. Charlie also has a comprehensive 999 plan to overhaul the promotional process and make it transparent and reflective of the city's diversity. My prediction is Charlie will be in place in November 2015 and MC Chump will take a HIDTA Director job in New England. Welcome Charlie!
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This sounds like an effort worthy of Charlie Williams, a man who has stated that he wants to fire as many officers as he can on Rule 14 violations that were sustained during a very questionable period at IAD, and who is supposedly making noises about coming back to CPD. "
You mean the Charlie Williams that said, "It is not practical to train individual officers to respond to a terrorist attack." That Charlie Williams.
I learned from the best and the worst on this job and I included him in the worst column. That guy gauges how well he is doing by how much he is hated and how much misery he inflicts.
I believe its upwards of 400. Officer called FOP and got a nasty response. FOP is still a failure
You knew it was wrong, accept the punishment and move on. Don't do it again or don't get caught.
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Bullshit. If they give us access to the reports then that report should be able to be viewed by police officers. So you're saying it was wrong to look at an approved police report then why should we even take police reports from anyone in the first place. If they can prove you disseminated the report then that is a rule violation but an arbitrator with even a half of brain and drunk will rule on the side of the officers involved. There is no rule violation or department directive that prohibits looking at a database that is available to everyone citywide. Is a loser for the department and they know it.
The Black Caucus wants McCarthy to step down because the Police are not doing their job, meanwhile thousands of blacks are being shot by black people. What's wrong with this picture?
Hey FOP one question. Why did FOP move for a vote of no confidence against Weis and not McDrunk. You are a bunch of asses.
Why can't you read any police report as a law enforcement officer? Your Union should be fighting this? Total BS
If some citizen filed a FOIA request they would be able to read it...
Hmmmm...
Much behind-the-scenes "busy-ness" by local media and the
Chicago City Council Black Caucus regarding the calls for
McOut-Of-Ideas' ouster and the vicious but of yet unconfirmed
rumors of ol' Cholly "Unindicted Co-Conspirator" Williams
coming back as supernintendo...
He's supposedly having "high level" meetings with assorted
Federales eh?
Hmmm...
If he were we?
Lease some FBI agents and put them in as district
commanders in 002, 003, 004, 005, 006, 007, 008, 009
010, 011, 012, (F/U Bubble-Head, ya fuckin' degenerate)
014, 015, 017 and 024...
Watch the corresponding alder-crooks take a knee-knocking,
earth-quaking terror shit in their pants.
Rev'runs and "communerty activists" too.
And all others with a vested interest in clout,
Fuckery, protection of criminal interests and
seeing the Police and Policing being walked
backwards to irrelevancy with a hard wrist-crank.
We wanna see some karmic funny happen
to some richly deserving asses before we
pop smoke for a well earned/well deserved
extraction.
Hold on...
We hear the helos closing low and fast.
It's been one muthafuckah of a ride.
Police like you have no friends.
Stay Safe.
And if muthafuckahs won't
leave you be and let you be safe?
Be dangerous...
Enjoy being dangerous.
Pay no heed to the hand-wringers
who whine about you not genuflecting
and conducting yourself in a servile manner.
Soul of an old Patrolman.
That curious and substantial
creature who was initially tasked
with hunting and hurting the now
wildly unchecked, BEE-AY-DEE
M/Fer who IS NOW THE APEX
Predator in Chicago.
People get upset and worried when Policemen
bare their fangs even when justified under sore
provocation.
"Can you guys not be so... Well... So?
It makes us uneasy. Your look and
demeanor are too angry and intimidating.
You're public servants so start acting like it."
"Be polite.
Be professional.
But ALWAYS have
a plan in mind to
Kill everyone/everything
should it ever become
necessary.
"Rules of Gunfighting"
The Policeman should be the
only left one alive to tell the story...
Remember...
There are no prizes to be had
for the second place winner.
Work this nasty, shit-doo-doo
God-Forsaken job to the best
of your ability.
Survive the bad, rotten, evil bosses.
Treasure the good ones.
Avoid the goofs who slipped through/
were clouted through the pre-employment screening.
Treasure the upright and solid Coppers who make
coming to the Shit-Show tolerable.
All we really have are each other.
Survive and somehow endure the poisonous, anti-Police atmosphere
and the bad, rotten people and folks on these streets.
Make your escape and put yourself and your loved ones
beyond the grasp of these evil people.
Charlie Williams was/is a good policeman
Let's all take the one day on the same day!
This decision to suspend 200 hundred officers, without evidence that any individual provided confidential information to a media outlet, is tantamount to THEFT. If IAD could have identified the offender, he or she would have been thrown in the fryer already. No evidence no penalty. No sustainable allegation, no discipline. Price, Klimas, Ruseau, Bueller, someone has to point this out and avoid the costly arbitration and possible law suits. Your comp hours are your family’s money. How can any boss just take eight hour’s worth of your money without a substantiated infraction?
The MINS system is an open forum for INTRA-Departmental communication. Motivated officers and supervisors use this SOURCE to identify cases and offenders they may have some knowledge of, be current with developing patterns, and motivate themselves to dig into investigations. All the things we want officers to be doing, right?
There is a procedure in the MINS system to mark items confidential, and limit access. If this was not done, hind sight is 20-20. But to say an officer is in the wrong, which accessed an unrestricted department database, after being trained or at least encouraged, to do so at some point in his or her career, makes no legal sense. If there is such abuse of this system, as we are led to believe by the reaction to the Chicago Magazine scandal, the Nordstrom and the Mayor’s son incidents, then Lewin should have closed the sight over a year ago. That would have saved these officer’s family’s hundreds of dollars from their savings.
-LP
OT but according to the Washington Times, Chicago is a much safer city than how it appears. Only 32 killed since Jan 2013! I guess that in their minds it is okay to be killed in smaller groups. The person must be less dead somehow. Not sure which is scarier: That they print this nonsense or that there are people walking around that believe this.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/10/05/gun-control-opponents-love-to-cite-chicago-so-how-does-it-compare-to-the-rest-of-america/
I once was told of a legend of 200 mighty police officers sworn to fight off sweet baby xerxes.This ruthless tyrant followed the mighty 200 to the ends of 025,cracking his whip on those believed to want to eat,take personals and make use of the toilet,but the mighty 200 were brought together after the defeat of their mightiest warriors Big Joe and The orange goon at the hands of sweet baby xerxes.As the 200 gathered for battle in the small corridor of 23's beat.All proud with tattoos showing,facial hair glistening..... It would be for naught as sweet baby xerxes had the advantage of his own SPARtans and CR army to quickly dispatch of the mighty 200 and all of the morale they once possessed.Sweet baby xerxes,now with the knowledge of the mighty 200's morale destroyed,rode high upon his recreational vehicular chariot with nothing to stop him and his rule.Thus his arrogance would be his downfall and his disregard for the legend of the golden child of mish-ho-gan tribe would be his undoing,thus allowing the mighty 200 degenerates to rise again
So what's the RD? Wonder if I can still get in on this much-needed day off.
Any report is available to the public correct? What's FOIA again? Let's get it through FOIA and post it everywhere, and see how they deal with it then.
Do you actually believe anything that comes out of the mouth of these guys who represent us ? Mcdonagh meets Mcdeubken and boozes with him . Dean is buddies with the current administration and anyone else who can keep him in power . Dean will be sitting in a skybox at the United Center with his lobbyist , attorney and other people who paid for him to get elected . He will be looking down on all of the people who pay into their pensions and smile ! Good luck with these guys !!!!
Wysinger and Rivera gone. Welch, Andrews, and Escalante promoted:
http://4abpn833c0nr1zvwp7447f2b.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Click-here-for-more-information.pdf
Rahm , right now , reduce alderman from 50 To 12 , four alderman in each police geographical area , North , Central ,South , you will save city millions for more police officers .
McCarthy , now is the time , let the citizens of Chicago know the truth of the leadership ,command staff , xo's you inherited .
Show us and citizens how many of your command staff received the merit promotions , many are good , some not so good .
Show your cards , show us the sponsors .
You are one of the best superintendents of the Chicago police department , do not let the alder creatures bully you .
You have the power , you did nothing wrong .
Keep up the good work .
Here's the problem. We all know what the rules are. In the past the rules have not been enforced, but they were still there. We all know what the rules are and the consequences for breaking the rules. It's like we take the lead off first base and think we are too quick to get picked off. If you get picked off, you can't blame the pitcher. A one day suspension is no biggie. If you get caught doing something wrong don't use the excuse that the Department never did anything in the past about this. You knew it was wrong, accept the punishment and move on. Don't do it again or don't get caught.
Hey company man, please explain what rules were broken besides the jag off who actually disseminated this to the media?
Hey mr. Academy puke aka "I'm the real police"-this isn't an issue of blaming anyone. Accessing reports is part of your job; to be informed of what's going on in the city. What do you see when you look in the mirror? Go do your 8hrs, stfu and go home. Ps-get that system up and running before we send you back to the ghetto where you know you have no balls to work!
This is how one "earns" a merit promotion
https://files.acrobat.com/a/preview/47a7c31b-a14c-4afe-b796-9b46db06792c
How can you even threaten to or suspend someone for looking up a report anyway? Anyone can get a report through FOIA. Reports aren't confidential by any means. So Joe-citizen, the media, money-hungry attorney, etc can FOIA reports for whatever purpose, and that's ok. Yet an Officer with access, can't look up any other report other than his own....? Makes zero sense.
If the info on the computer belongs to The chicago police department and all documents related belong to the city?
How come a certain Lt in violent crime took a death investigation involving a mayors relative folder with city document home?
Then forgot about it when the states attorneys were acting like they lost their file.
Sad part is his name is not anywhere on any report??? Bea Cuelo s daughters
case dropped and smart Tact guy promoted.
You see reading the reports make sure that City official don't delete crime.
Cases can be deleted.
Scc Maybe a history lesson post would help everyone remember that the Clouted need to be watched. NO secrets even are pay and disciplinary history is fair game.
Charlie Williams?
He should be rotting in custody
of USBOP.
FLOP official response is take the day enjoy your day off and grieve it and get it back with the 300 other officers. WTF! So Mcnutty gets pissed and blow taxpayers money by giving suspensions days off that FLOP is guaranteeing won't stick. That's a lot of wasted money. Maybe it should come out of his check. And then maybe a class action of defamation for the wild accusations!
Signed,
PISSED off taxpayer!
From the Desk of Joe Curtin (DOA);
When I ran 025 someone (Sir Donkey) blew up a toilet in the men's locker room on the midnight shift. When I learned of this horrible act, I called the Superintendent of Police to make a report. He said, don't worry Joe, I'll send you all the toilets that you need!
I tried to remove all the eye-talions (dagos) and broads from the desk and was met by a fight with the union!
Then someone super glued all the locks to my office, put white chalk powder on my personal desk chair (so the stain on the seat of my pants and my ass was chalk white), removed my personal "District Commander" parking sign (3 times), placed a angry stuffed animal high over my parking space, took a dump in my personal shower, super glued all my desk drawers shut, keyed my car, and a host of other infractions.
But I still came to work every day to do an honest days work!
Now as I rot away in my resting place, they still call me Elephant Ears!
Why?
All the 200 should take off the same day, marathon, Halloween etc
Sure with day off groups it probably isn't feasible but I bet at least 2/3 could do it
Have every rank and file copper look at the report on Rahm's honor student!
Can McCarthy afford to suspend almost the entire CPD?
Shout "I'm Spartacus!"
Show up at the Columbus Day Parade next Monday and them how you feel about their Grand Marshal Dean Angelo.
Anonymous said...
FLOP official response is take the day enjoy your day off and grieve it and get it back with the 300 other officers. WTF! So Mcnutty gets pissed and blow taxpayers money by giving suspensions days off that FLOP is guaranteeing won't stick. That's a lot of wasted money. Maybe it should come out of his check. And then maybe a class action of defamation for the wild accusations!
Signed,
PISSED off taxpayer!
10/05/2015 11:30:00 PM
You can't greive a suspension until you actually serve it.
This is how one "earns" a merit promotion
https://files.acrobat.com/a/preview/47a7c31b-a14c-4afe-b796-9b46db06792c
10/05/2015 10:12:00 PM
Actually Tracy was promoted off the list. I saw it with my own eyes. Don't assume he was a merit pick. He was literally the last person promoted off the old list. Nice try
Jay Cutler might be considered for the new Supt. Bring some morale back to this thing.
This is how one "earns" a merit promotion
https://files.acrobat.com/a/preview/47a7c31b-a14c-4afe-b796-9b46db06792c
They promoted her?
From the Desk of Joe Curtin (DOA);
When I ran 025 someone (Sir Donkey) blew up a toilet in the men's locker room on the midnight shift. When I learned of this horrible act, I called the Superintendent of Police to make a report. He said, don't worry Joe, I'll send you all the toilets that you need!
I tried to remove all the eye-talions (dagos) and broads from the desk and was met by a fight with the union!
Then someone super glued all the locks to my office, put white chalk powder on my personal desk chair (so the stain on the seat of my pants and my ass was chalk white), removed my personal "District Commander" parking sign (3 times), placed a angry stuffed animal high over my parking space, took a dump in my personal shower, super glued all my desk drawers shut, keyed my car, and a host of other infractions.
But I still came to work every day to do an honest days work!
Now as I rot away in my resting place, they still call me Elephant Ears!
Why?
10/05/2015 11:41:00 PM
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You forgot the coffin someone put in your parking spot!!! Loved that one!!!
Anonymous said...
How can you even threaten to or suspend someone for looking up a report anyway? Anyone can get a report through FOIA. Reports aren't confidential by any means. So Joe-citizen, the media, money-hungry attorney, etc can FOIA reports for whatever purpose, and that's ok. Yet an Officer with access, can't look up any other report other than his own....? Makes zero sense.
10/05/2015 10:34:00 PM
Best of all the supervisors in my district have been directed by the XO, presumably on behalf of the District Commander, to forward by email all major incident notifications to the office of the affected alderman! Thats right, sensitive information relative to the identities of the victim(s), possible offenders and sensitive details regarding Homicides, Aggravated Batteries-Handguns or other firearms (Fuck you McCarthy), Criminal Sexual Assaults, etc. Thank goodness we have no alderman who have convicted felons on their office staffs or in their households! Don't believe me? I'll forward the request to SCC.
Three on the Medical for every BS day you take...An old grey beard taught me that early on. The city loses again. Good Job management.
Just say'n...
You file a grievance when you receive the suspension notice.
You go to arbitration after you serve the suspension.
a couple of old Joe Curtin (RIP) stories, from the old Area Three (39th and Cal), former V/C Lt....
one day, someone got into his private office and poisoned his fish....no one was supposed to have a key to his private office, but......
then....he always liked to have his detective roll call while standing at his podium, but....one day, his podium was not there; he was very upset....in a few minutes, he walked over to the window (the office was on the 3rd floor), and saw that his podium was on the roof of the one story hot dog restaurant across the street....man, was he p.o.'d....
the best: he used to like wearing a black fedora with his three piece suit...so....as the story goes, someone (?) managed to get his fedora and obtain two others, one a size too small, and another a size just a little bigger....then, the hats were switched just before roll call....
so, one afternoon, he puts the larger hat on, starts to complain that his head must be shrinking, because the hat is over his ears......
the next afternoon, he puts the smaller hat on, it sits on top of his head, he starts thinking that he needs to go and see the doctor, because his head seems to be changing size...
not to mention the bugler who blew the horn in the office.....
eh?.....
Never, ever trust Charlie Williams. He hates policemen.
Anonymous said...
Hey FOP one question. Why did FOP move for a vote of no confidence against Weis and not McDrunk. You are a bunch of asses.
10/05/2015 08:07:00 PM
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200 po's may be taking a day. Take a vote of no confidence now you have 200 po's taking 2 or 3 days. Very smart.
Let the grievance work it's way thru. But if you weren't like 13 year old girls playing with social media you wouldn't be taking time. Those who have a valid reason to look at the case report like the robbery mission team are not taking time. But blame FOP because your too stupid to be accountable.
We should be able to read the reports. If we develop info, do a supp. We need to know what is going on, even if we don't work on that beat, we may live near that beat, or have some other reason to be there. When I started the job years ago, coppers used to talk to each other, let each other know what's going on, especially if coppers had days off or were on furlo. Now that doesn't happen. It's a shame. It's to everyone's detriment when we stop looking, stop talking.
I use social media to contact found property owners, people who have an elderly family member who was found wandering due to Alzheimer's by a citizen or dept. Member. Facebook etc. Can be very useful.
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