"Diversity"
- In his pitch Monday to recruit a diverse pool of applicants for an upcoming police entrance exam — the first since 2013 — Chicago Police Supt. Garry McCarthy’s approach was equal parts practical and idealogical.
“At the end of the day, it’s a pretty good-paying job with great benefits,” McCarthy said at a news conference held at police headquarters.
“Officers will start with a salary of $47,000, and after 18 months that will go to $72,000, and there’s not a lot of places where you can get that in this environment right now, in this economy,” he said, adding that health care for the whole family was included.
Um, this is the greatest economy since WWII. Just ask Sparklefarts and all the people lined up nose-to-ass coming out of the White House, along with the media. We won't tolerate that sort of talk around here.
- And, for the idealists: “It’s probably the most noble thing a person can do with their life,” McCarthy said.
The job offers “the best and the worst of humanity in the same day, frankly,” McCarthy said, noting that the pendulum swings from “I can’t believe that just happened” — when encountering the best of humanity — to “God almighty, I can’t believe what I just saw.”
And that's just what you hear walking out of the Thursday morning CompStat meeting. The lies, data manipulation and number-spinning is enough to make you cry - or write award winning articles for Chicago Magazine.
In the meantime, in Reality World, we find articles like this forwarded to our e-mail:
In the meantime, in Reality World, we find articles like this forwarded to our e-mail:
- Pretty soon, police departments nationwide will have to lower their hiring standards, increase salaries and benefits, and put a lot more money into marketing for new hires, because the men and women who would usually be candidates for law enforcement careers will choose another path.
Becoming a police officer used to be a family tradition. It's not just an Irish thing, as is often depicted in movies and on television. I cannot count how many father/son and even mother/daughter, police families you can find out there in various departments, of all different colors and backgrounds. It's an honorable profession serving the community, and children who are raised in cop households often grow up with the same sense of civic responsibility as their parents. I even know of one family in the Washington, DC, area who has family (cousins, brothers, etc.) in almost every police department in and around the city. Meet one "Officer Wigglesworth" and I guarantee you, he's related to all of the others.
But the times, they are a'changin. And not for the better. Because the overall attitude toward law enforcement has shifted and changed. The profession that was so revered after 9/11 has instead become itself the target of hate. A lot of people have tried to make the community's problems with law enforcement a race issue. But the cop killers are indiscriminate as to whom they murder. Black, white, Hispanic, Asian - it's all about the color of the uniform, so to speak, not the color of the officer's skin.
And that isn't from a usual gloom-and-doom type website - that's the ultra-liberal Huffington Post writing there, and if they're seeing this, well then the past 10 years we've been preaching it put us somewhere above Nostradamus.
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Google Cline Consultants. The greedy bastard doesn't make enough money with his 6 figure pension and his 6 figure part time job at the memorial fund. The fkg department pays him to teach his search warrant class still to this day. Go away you con artist.
Y-T need not apply
Every jag off, clout baby, disrespectful to the public, taken care of, meritorious, etc. police officer I've encountered in this job, have been the product of a lowered standard, passed through the academy, democratic clout baby- even up to the White House. Fact.
We have been infiltrated, cultural Marxism is here to stay. Brace yourself Christians , I believe they may try and federalize or nationalize a police force and the people will beg for it, Dumb american sheep.
The left is out to destroy big city law enforcement in this county. It's part of their agenda to take over the nation. Law enforcement is still popular and not hated in the small cities and towns, the rural parts of this country; however, these areas are seldom ruled by a democrat political machine.
Yep try hating the cops 20 years from now when its all high school dropouts and dope dealers or anybody who will take the job.
You won't get much accomplished. Its a toxic environment all around. Nobody in my family or extended family will be encouraged to be the police. Don't take the test. Be a firefighter(suburbs are hiring), bounty hunter, dog walker, landscaping but don't become a cop. You're kicking yourself in the teeth if you do.
Who wants to be The Police in this climate?
I've always thought this but could never find the right words for it. Soon we will have bottom-feeders "policing" the very neighborhoods in which we all live. We are doomed.
Anyone entertaining the thought of coming on this job nowadays needs their fucking head examined.
To those contemplating becoming one of "Chicagos Finest", I have two pieces of advice:
1) have a candid talk with a trusted CPD copper that has more than 20 years on the job for their perspective on just how much things have changed on this job
2) check out this link to get the skinny on what's to be expected once your take that oath:
http://www.communityrenewalsociety.org/police-reform-bill-passes-illinois-general-assembly
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There are still a lot of people (perhaps under-represented in opinion polls) who understand the need for policing and reject the phony media-fueled character assassination of law enforcement that attracts so much attention these days.
Facts are facts and bullshit is bullshit.
1) The body of Michael Brown had GBR (gun barrel residue) on his hand.
2) The first shot was fired from inside Officer Wilson's vehicle.
3) Deal with it.
It's tough for the silent majority to find effective channels to express our opinion.. BUT IT'S NOT IMPOSSIBLE. The truth is the truth and you just have to keep on keepin' on.
Keep the faith and stay safe.
Fuck diversity. Just hire the most qualified people.
It will not matter who or what they ask for. They can't get enough people to stop what their doing and pass the drug test or fitness test. In addition, you have a minority candidate pool that is increasing their numbers in higher education and entering the middle class. What once was the be all end all job coming out of high school no longer carries that appeal that it once did in the 60's, 70's and 80's.
You will always have that person that has that burning desire and wants to be a policeman or fireman no matter what the risk or given climate. There just isn't that many any longer.
I will NOT allow my son to take thls police test! From the cronyism, to politics, to ass kissing, and the bullshit merit lists, and residency ordinance, this job sucks and is pretty much a dead end job for the unclouted, stuck on a lousy beat car for decades! The better idea is to get the hell out of Chicago and Illinois and choose a different career where your not second guessed like a criminal in an instant!
When is zogg and the merit 13 getting out of the academy. We really need them out here to clean this city up.
Drop the college requirement we lose so many potential good Officers.
It's still a great job, the greatest there is in my opinion. This elevated level of police hate will pass just like everything else. As a matter of fact, when you leave ultra liberal Illinois and travel to other areas of the country- I took a 10 day road trip through the south last month- you find that the great majority of Americans still do appreciate and respect law enforcement. The media is so sensationalist, and so very left leaning in the mainstream that blasting stories of police hate is done every hour on the hour. The fact is however that most people still stand behind us. Most of the people who do just don't stand on their soapbox and scream for attention, and that's why we don't hear as much about them.
I am very proud to be a cop, particularly a Chicago Police Officer. Fuck the haters and the cynics.
..."And maybe just remind the few, if ill of us they speak, that we are all that stands between the monsters and the weak."
-Michael Marks 2006
I'd never wish this sorry ass profession on my kids. I tell them constantly to go to college when they get older and get a good degree with a marketable skill so that they're not stuck in this sewage pit of a job like their old man.
They must pass the drug test over 60% walk out game over the any arrest 20%leave can't give the job!
McMartini failed to mention it's one of the few jobs where you can end up in jail for doing your job, with no one who has got your back.
19,000 applicants from 2013? And that list is almost exhausted? Knowing how the city works, one has to wonder if this is just another money grab scheme. 19,000 x the number of application fees collected equals alot of cash.
The best and the brightest will go elsewhere. Chicago's pension benefits now rank the lowest among major city departments. They will fill the seats but they will get what they pay for.
Good luck with that kind of thinking Garry. I can call you Garry, can't I?
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Second City, I beg to differ. Most of the Good Citizens of this country including Chicago, welcome and appreciate the Police. It's only a vocal minority who get the Liberal Press attention who whine and complain about Police. I say f@%K'em. Let them shoot and kill themselves, so long as they stay in their own ghettos. It's their culture that has led them to this point and they have no one else to blame except themselves.
Retired CPD Living in Colombia South America, 2 Sons on the job..
As usual, the Huffpost gets it wrong even when it tries to get it right. Can't speak about other departments, but one of the BIG problems with this department is the fact that it IS such a "family tradition". And, as such: hiring, promotion, and assignments are doled out not on an equal footing, but on someone's parentage and relations. When the politicians do it, we scream to high heaven. Yet, it's OK for our police department, because that's the way it's always been done. Not to mention the fact that when someone's kid steps on his dick, no problem. It's taken care of. When some poor unconnected bastard does the same, it's good luck kid, take one for the team. At least Huffpost got the part about lowering hiring standards correct. That's a guarantee, sad to say.
(OT) passenger hits uber driver gets fired from executive job at Taco Bell!
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/11/03/uber-passenger-caught-on-camera-assaulting-driver-arrested-loses-job/?intcmp=hpbt3
Using this great idea, Gary over here, Rahm lets see how we can make this "new strategy" work for CPD! We have 1 of our thugs do a crime we fire them! But you say "they don't work," true! So we "fire them" by stopping all taxpayers assistance, like link,free health care, housing, free phones everything! Let's take it a step farther make it known that if anyone is convicted of mayhem at that address all benefits stop. This would help to restore civility to that segment of the population. Think mama would tell thug "you do crime jujube loses everything," taxpayers and innocent people getting sick of paying trillions for such animalistic behavior!
looks like Obama has successively divided the police department into race and its no longer going to recruit the brightest and the best
Diversity and multiculturalism are goals the must be met and achieved in order for the police to be progressive.
Did I miss something SCC? How come no word about McCarthy's pick for Chief of Det's. With all the scandal when Daley's nephew killed that kid. This guy misled the investigation. What about this?
Still wanna be an FTO?
Page 17 article today's suntimes, Gary says "some of the tragedies that we have been involved in and unfortunately,contributed to!" Contributed to? Gary are you eluding to police defending themselves and being dragged through the media circus and bosses throwing coppers to the hoards to be prosecuted is that what you mean?
The Worst and the Dumbest.
Any intelligent person who takes this corrupted God forsaken job should be fitted for a straitjacket. IT'S OVER!
From trib story comments
:"...What reporter John Byrne failed to tell ya is that Rahm hired a communications management firm founded by his longtime friend and former White House colleague, David Axelrod, to conduct a $100,000 minority outreach campaign to recruit more minority cop applicants.
The contract was awarded to ASGK Public Strategies LLC, the firm Axelrod founded in 2002. Axelrod is Emanuel’s friend of 30 years. The two men worked together in the White House when Emanuel was serving as President Barack Obama’s first chief of staff and Axelrod was a senior adviser to the president..."
Now ask what exactly did the money buy...and wtf is up with the ad slogan
Key word is "was" good paying job with good benefits. Most of us took the job because of it. Now when the time comes to retire you find out that you might not have those benefits and/or have them significantly reduced. You put in 30 years of your life in this job for someone to tell you...sorry buddy we didn't put our portion in into your pension. Diversity? Minority? ..ok lower the standards even lower. I say it's a good thing. Police department should consist of only black and Hispanic population so when they kill someone while doing their job you can't blame the white man anymore. For anyone thinking of this job, think hard before you take it and look somewhere else first.
Off topic....I received an e-mail the other day with a link to the invisible institute. They are the group that compiled the stats with who had the most CR numbers. On this site it named everyone on the list , but it gave dates , times , locations of CR numbers. It also gave how many CR numbers an individual had and who the accused officer was working with and how many CR's that officer had. It names the investigator of the CR's and how many complaints the investigator has. It named the complainants and it was a very detailed account of the complaint. The site was up and running earlier yesterday , but it has since been taken down. I was wondering if anyone knows about this or why it was taken off the internet.
O.T. not one word about the important retiree health insurance case yesterday.The police really stick together. I guess this doesn't effect me who cares. The great Karen Lewis would be all over this one way or another, Claiming victory or calling for action by the union. When was the last time if ever did the police act as one force to be dealt with. Just pay $2.00 a payday how much are you paying today 5,000% more. Promise of free insurance when you retired. A fixed paid pension. Promise the anything the police talk a tough game but the City leader know that they are just sissy in uniform. They can't even elect someone who would stand up for them. They won't spend the money to hire profession labor lawyer give me retro pay and 2% and I'll be happy. Retro should automatically the contract should be settle on time. Why have a contract with a ending date of June 20 that doesn't mean anything to the City why have Arbitration that doesn't mean anything the City if the City council doesn't approve it but is binding on union. Show some strength stand up to the City or publicly admit you are a
You know where I'd like to see diversity? In the Police Sign-in Room on the 7th Floor at 26th and California.
Two words: Anthony Abbate
There's a reason they takedown promotion lists. They run out of diversity. Let's say they find 75% diversified candidates, 20% non diverse, margin of error 5%... Guess what the Top 10% of the list will be. The list gets tossed.
The only reason for merit it to level the field.
The city has always had a 33% across the board hiring pattern. What changes are to come now?
Hey, non-diverse...forget about it, go work for UPS.
McCarthy claims he doesn't know the racial/gender of the applicants in the previous test. Is there some reason the City Department of Personnel won't give him the information?
Why are they not promoting the fact that they intend on giving extra credit to CPS graduates? Good luck if your son or daughter went to a parochial school. I thought this was challenged last time
This crap keeps going around and around. I was hired in 1982 under strict quotas. 1/3 male white(which included Asians), 1/3 male minorities, 1/3 female. Written test was easy, no POWER or physical strength/agility test. Most PPOs were OK but we still had some who required extra academic or physical help in order to meet standards. If they couldn't meet the standards, the standards were ignored. I don't recall anyone being flunked out.
Mike Royko wrote a terrific column once about police hiring and the difficulty of recruiting qualified blacks. About 25 years ago the Tribune published a study which found that 25% of black applicants were failing the whiz quiz.
Same problems, different century. Same fixes applied, same failure assured. Liberals are unable to learn from experience.
I agree with the article forwarded to your e-mail. I have strongly encouraged my kids not to go into law enforcement at least not in Chicago. Also how many qualified white males were rejected because they were the children of coppers or ex-military?
Did he get that marketing campaign from Stuart Smalley? (I'm Good Enough, I'm Smart Enough, and Doggone It, People Like Me!)
New CPD hiring slogan: The job is good enough, pays enough, and doggone it, people will like you!
Why would anyone take a job where you can be 100 % right and still get sued and go to jail for doing your job. There can't be that many people out there.
What happened to the Most qualified? Forgot, that stopped years ago. Just like how the testing process was. The scores were: Most qualified. Qualified. Pass. Fail.
A lot of people don't believe policing is a proper career for a well educated woman.
I guarantee that he didn't mention that the cost of living in the city would basically eat up your income, and that it would be a struggle to raise your family on one income much less pay for private schooling because you don't want your kids running with the public school "city rats". AND that taxes were increasing as we speak, and that a fee for garbage pickup is likely soon. Oh...and by the way you will have to live in this cesspool as long as you work here...
No...I'm sure he didn't.
>>>>> 'Over the summer, Ald. Anthony Beale (9th) warned the outreach program will fall short ... due to background checks and psychological exams administered to police candidates that act as “tools used to weed out and disqualify” minorities.
Beale, former chairman of the City Council’s Police Committee, predicted that the Police Department would remain disproportionately white...unless changes are made to the...background checks and psychological exams.' <<<<<
Yep, you're right, Alder-creature Beale. Everyone knows that it's not the Black's fault that they become CONVICTED FELONS by the time they're sixteen. How did the not-so Rev Jesse Jackass put it back in the '90s when pushing for Felons to able to Vote? Oh yeah, it went something like this: "Becoming a FELON is a 'Rite Of Passage' for young Black males growing up".
Some cabal of evil white people, probably 'right-wing extremists', must use Mind Control to make young Blacks become criminals and commit felonies so white folk get all the good jobs, become police, and 'Keep The Black Man Down'.
As to Blacks not passing the psychological exams. For one tell your peeps not to drop out of school in the 6th Grade and their IQ just might go above 70! Secondly, raising your kids to Hate the Police, to Hate society, to Hate White people, that nothing is their fault because of slavery and they're 'owed', is not exactly a healthy environment to shape young minds.
In fact it'll make them down right antisocial and turn them into PSYCHOPATHS!! Not exactly 'Police Material', you moron.
No more Cops needed in Chicago. Just keep gang bangers and drug dealers Locked up. No more early release or parole. Crime WILL drop.
wouldn't that make any "real" minority an uncle tom if they accepted a position in an obviously racist organization?
in the least it'd make them a greedy hypocrite...
oh wait, the left has not morals or principles...disregard.
I find it interesting the super focused on pay and benefits. The citizens of Chicago want the most qualified persons who will respond in times of need. When a robbery occurs at the Seven Eleven and some thug is pointing a pistol in your face, will you forgo help from a police hero who citing "diversity concerns"? Or will you forgo this academically advanced media endorsed progressive doctrine of diversity in your time of need and accept help from an officer who responds who may not match your demographic or extreme viewpoints on left wingnut hot button topics such as sexual orientation, cultural sensitivities or position on abortion and same/same marriage?
McCarthy cited a good paying job. Damn right it is. Just look at the number of redundant more layers of supervision deputy chief spots. Or you could earn real fat six figures being a puppet ventriloquist getting the 5th floor's message out on orders by the top ballerina Rhambo himself.
Keep electing the idiots
CPS is over 75% Black , guess what they receive preference in hiring on the Chicago Police Department . Is that fair , I don't think so . Some aldercreature wants to remove background checks for blacks , really . Has that man looked around the neighborhood he represents lately ? Single Parent , teenagers raising babies . Crime , gang banging everywhere .
Let the Chicago Police Department raise the standards , let the aldercreature preach Family Values , Respect for Property and Life .
Another tragedy , 9 year old murdered while playing basketball , you have to wonder , WHY? It's not guns , it's lack of Respect for human life , no consequences for being a criminal . In Beverly area 18 year ol;d charged with possessing a gun , dropped his state ID card . Guess what , this poor teen of color on juvenile probation for the same crime . Black lives matter , rally , that's why the politicians demand criminals be released from prison early .
It's for the children , sure it is .
I'm still confused why Mexicans are considered a minority. Mexican is a nationality not a race. In fact most Mexicans have Western European blood in them. If a Canadian moves here are they a minority?
Diversity is a two way east west street.
to the unpublished:
It won't be posted because you dared us not to. You're welcome to argue based on statistics, but your snide aside makes Rule #2 (see sidebar) so much easier to enforce.
Inspector writing up 8th district cops yesterday for not keeping microphone from car camera inside of their pocket while they were sitting in the car. Per general order you have to have mic on you at all times and on everytime you're out of the car and speaking with someone-even in their house on a call.
I heard that there were attacks on the Gold Coast on Halloween.
Any more information?
I'd never wish this sorry ass profession on my kids. I tell them constantly to go to college when they get older and get a good degree with a marketable skill so that they're not stuck in this sewage pit of a job like their old man.
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I know what you mean brother.
What a sewage pit.. I'm only getting paid $76.43 @ hour at that damn VRI.
I should have tried to get a good management job at Caterpillar.
http://www.pjstar.com/article/20151101/NEWS/151109982
BS in 019 is proof positive that The CPD needs some sort of education requirement. Sgt. Ses can use quadruple negatives in sentences when he speaks to the citizens. All the crying that he should be a Sgt if it weren't for the education requirements. This jackass actually believed the watch feels for him. The only feels BS gets is from a Marquette Alum.
Read a book, Sgt Ses and try not to move your lips as you negotiate you way thru ""Green Eggs and Ham."
You know where I'd like to see diversity? In the Police Sign-in Room on the 7th Floor at 26th and California.
11/03/2015 08:38:00 AM
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Yes GREAT point ! ! !
Who are the dummies doing all the police work?
If you think crime rates are bad now......just wait!!!
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They must pass the drug test over 60% walk out game over the any arrest 20%leave can't give the job!
11/03/2015 05:31:00 AM
So just how in the fu#% did your illiterate ass get hired?
Listen to me people (or folks). Pay attention to my words it can help your kid or friend or extended family member from getting DQ'd from the hiring process. Trust me when I tell you that if your kid/family etc.. shows ANY sings of leaning towards the RIGHT in his/her social media accounts and/or posts they will be DQ'd from the process. Any pro-police, pro-blue lives matter any anti-left posts or comments at all is a disqualification. The split second they get their letter to take the Power Test they better deactivate social media and stay off the internet. Don't think it's true? Don't think KenTek and assigned investigators aren't now told to study said potential candidates' social media accounts and are coached what to look for and what the Department doesn't want to take a chance on offering employment to? Think again. So if your son or daughter got DQ'd from the 2013 list and you just can't seem to pinpoint just why exactly? Scroll through their social media and count how many Right leaning posts, statuses and comments they've made recently. New potential recruits showing ANY hints of having a Right or Conservative opinion or ideology will be DQ'd. Tell your son or daughters right NOW to fine tooth comb their social media and remove all the anti-left memes, news articles or Blue Lives Matters pics. All of it. Every last Like or comment. More than likely it's too late if they're on the 2013 list and their lottery number is > 3000. This just started and will now be standard practice. In case you're wondering: Showing a propensity of Left ideologies and anti-Right rhetoric won't necessarily be an automatic DQ just the latter that I just explained.
Like the suntimes article page 17 where mcrugoofy states "When Ive spoken to a lot of our African-American officers, they tell stories about losing a lot of friends when they became police officers... That has to be overcome." Wow boss really! Look at paper they even pull it from paragraph and re highlight it near the bottom bold big print! bet the writer was thinking "this guy is nuts have to show how foolish this statement is!"
Lost a lot of friends hmm boss? I was hired lost no "friends" actually gained more! This begs the question what kind of people do you hang around with? Criminals? felons? Come on this statement is so stupid, a lot of officers boss? Pandering to who? Please leave your now setting up more of a divide!!
While the article hits some very good and accurate points....I think it's important to at least acknowledge that we "LE" have had a hand in our perception, Especially in non-white neighborhoods. How do I know this? I see it everyday. I hear the chatter in the hallways and the locker room. Those of you who show little to no respect for people then turn around and complain about not getting respect should think about how you deal with people. Before anyone goes on that they want us to be the nice Police BS, I say this, is it not possible to be professional and control your scene/job/stop? I think about a teacher I had in High School. He carried himself in a way that you knew not to even try him. BUT if you step off line, he would put you in your place, WITHOUT being a jag bag. No one ever talked bad about him because he was respectful while being very tough and demanding.
And when you run into the a-hole that wants to MF you and call you all sorts of names, don't fall for the trap. Just ignore it. As I'm sure you all know, it will ONLY be your reaction, if it is bad, that makes it on the Internet, news, Facebook etc.
I always hear the phrase about working smart. Well it's true. Work smart and I think we will be ok. Some people will always hate us no matter what, can't change that at all. But we can stop giving people ammunition.
Carry on......
What happened to the Most qualified?
When was this the standard? Have you seen some of our Supervisors? I know POs who would do a better job than many of them.
Just remember, when the shit hits the fan, don't run to the White shirt. Run to one of your mates who you know has common sense and is dependable.
$72,500 after 18 months??? Am I missing something here? Did we get another raise?
I have four generations of ancestors in cemeteries around this city. They helped to build this city, fought in the World Wars and Korea. They laid brick, fitted pipes, built homes, poured concrete. They were and are barbers, merchants, teachers, health care workers and lawyers. Myself and my father were police officers and proud of it.
None were ever in trouble with the law.
But somehow "our diversity" is not welcome.
They are only going to south side churches to recruit. You know what population they looking for only. And i'm not saying law-abiding Christians, its their baby's mama's grand-baby who is a thug. little by little i've been noticing lots of very bad people arrested for their first time with no arrest histories, very suspicious. which means these people will get on the job, very bad people cause they look clean on paper. Well what no on knows is the moral on job is low, crime is rampant, and most of these thugs are not even getting arrested in the first place for the dozen crimes they have committed and the dope they sell, we have no resources to catch and arrest them to begin with, and God forbid anyone actually want to prosecute them. Remember drugs are becoming the new normal and aren't even being prosecuted anymore. Remember that our commander in chief in charge is getting rid of the Convicted Felon Box on job applications because felons can't get jobs…..he says, so lets bend the rules and give them breaks in life. My Lord, what has this world come to where the bad are rewarded and the good are pooped on. Pretty soon, mark my words, there won't even be a drug test required, because its racist against the "black lives matter" folks.
I just talked to a friend of mine. His brother was a cop in Marquette Park. He recently quit and has just been hired by the Fire Department. He's Puerto Rican (and I think perhaps Mexican).
When I talked to him at a party at his house last summer, he said, "What do they expect us to do? They assign us to black neighborhoods because that's where most of the crime is, and then we're not supposed to arrest black people. When we do arrest them, we're accused of racial profiling, but if we don't, they say we're not doing our job and don't care about black people."
I guarantee that he didn't mention that the cost of living in the city would basically eat up your income, and that it would be a struggle to raise your family on one income much less pay for private schooling because you don't want your kids running with the public school "city rats". AND that taxes were increasing as we speak, and that a fee for garbage pickup is likely soon. Oh...and by the way you will have to live in this cesspool as long as you work here...
No...I'm sure he didn't.
Speaking of taxes. Comcast cable bill went way up. Called customer service. She Evidently wasn't in Chicago and was surprised when it came to taxes. She said where do you live. You are paying over$39.00 a month taxes odor cable
Anonymous said...
I guarantee that he didn't mention that the cost of living in the city would basically eat up your income, and that it would be a struggle to raise your family on one income much less pay for private schooling because you don't want your kids running with the public school "city rats". AND that taxes were increasing as we speak, and that a fee for garbage pickup is likely soon. Oh...and by the way you will have to live in this cesspool as long as you work here...
No...I'm sure he didn't.
11/03/2015 09:53:00 AM
The cost of living is far more in the burbs. City living is the cheapest by far. What kills people who care about their kids is the cost of school tuition if you cannot send your kids to a public school that is decent. But, if you ask Karen Lewis, all is well with CPS and the need for more and more charter schools is just wrong and anti American and anti democratic. When the city built a new public high school in Mt. Greenwood the new principle put a quota on the number of local resident's children that could attend. The rest were bused in.
If you take this test you are softer than a fresh pile of puppy shit. If you want to be the police, and you are nuts if you do, find some town not run by 1 party system and apply there. 4 years to go and I'm outta this hole...
They better tell the diverse applicants drug hair tests go back 3 to 6 months!
The anticipated "Chiraq" trailer Don't give them none and the thugs behave! Wonder would this idea work?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/movies/ct-chi-raq-trailer-20151103-embeddedvideo.html
I don't see how they are having another test when they have so many more people still on the current list and the 5 years it's good for hasn't elapsed. They are currently at 8,900 according to HR and they have 12,713 total people that passed the exam.
And do to these "lower hiring standards" people like me who scored 98% on the exam are stuck waiting in the 11,000's, not even close to being called yet. Thank God, I have another dept doing my background. I really want to be CPD, but I'm taking the first opportunity I get from a dept. So much for the most qualified, it sounds like I wouldn't even have a shot of making it off this upcoming list being a white male from the suburbs. Oh well.
Time for all the people who like to second guess a police officers decision and say he should have done it this way, to take the test strap on a vest and gunbelt and show us how to properly do this so called easy job.
Remember everyone, the class of 1986 when they made criminals as police officers, because a judge said the background check was somehow discrimination.
This sounds really familiar. Oh yea, just like our merit process.
Policing is a great profession. The problem is chicago. Once merit promotions began the department went to shit. Moron leaders, punishment instead of training. Fiding numbers to keep the white politicians in power.
If you want to be the police leave illinois. However, I recomend looking to the G for a career. FBI, Secret Service, US Marshals, NCIS, etc.
It's not police, but close enough.
30 years and counting. Waiting to hit 55.
Are you in agreement with Huff Post? Wow the shark has been jumped.
I won't even take a promotional exam anymore, let alone tell people to take the Police test!
I was just asked about the police test and I told the kid to go in a different direction, move out of Illinois and Chicago, as this job sucks!
This job is full of ass kissing blowhards and the workers will NEVER get no where on this dept.!
NOT to mention the Pension fund is fucked! FUCK IT!
You can talk all the blah, blah about lowered hiring standards,diversity, the world is out to get us. The over riding problem facing law enforcement is incompetent leadership.
There was a time you were called into the WC's Office and you were asked What Happened?
In this day and age, it's what did you do.
Until that changes, you're all up sht's creek w/o a paddle.
"Every jag off, clout baby, disrespectful to the public, taken care of, meritorious, etc. police officer I've encountered in this job, have been the product of a lowered standard, passed through the academy, democratic clout baby- even up to the White House. Fact."
How true. We're still reeling from the Bush Adminstration's malfeasance.
A 25k raise after 18 months? Seems a bit high to me.
Guess what people? Things change in every single fucking job environment over the years. Police work isn't dominated by all your community service instincts, it is a pretty good job nothing more. I'm sure lot's of you were probably told the job was going to hell in a hand basket twenty years ago but still had to sign up. Some of these comments are starting to sound like CFD guys who think they are called to the job like a priest or something, give me a break! I'm young, a hair gel I guess, but when you come on a job and all you hear is how it used to be you kind of tune that out and try to put yourself in a position to make your own 20 or more years.
The Feds are letting 6000 dope dealers out of prison. 2753 heading back to Chicago. About 1700 coming back to the west side, rest to 007.
The "CHIRAQ" movie trailer is out on the Internet.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/goldstandard/la-et-mn-quentin-tarantino-hateful-eight-boycott-20151102-story.html
He is not scared because when is the last time cops organized a rally or protest.
Sadly, NBC 5 reported Deputy GI Joe's autopsy points to suicide. May he rest in peace, and may his family find peace and relief from their pain.
P.S. Those of you who need help, the best thing to do is ask.
Lt. Gliniewicz, Fox Lake PD, a suicide.
WHY?
Not earned. Given.
Why would anyone still take this job. This ship went down along time ago.
Sad to see that Office in Lake County took his own life. They say it was for money and personal issues. He probably could've used the EAP and maybe made it at the end.
Are you in agreement with Huff Post? Wow the shark has been jumped.
You're a special kind of dumbass, aren't you?
We've been preaching this for 10 years now asshat. It's the HuffPo that's agreeing with us finally. Get it?
God Almighty, you are fucking dense.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
A lot of people don't believe policing is a proper career for a well educated woman.
11/03/2015 09:49:00 AM
Annnnnnnnnnd, there you are, Troll. Casting your bait, hoping to lure someone to rage at you.
McC makes a police career sound like an expediency, on the level of an Uber or Lyft radio ad.
"So we "fire them" by stopping all taxpayers assistance, like link,free health care, housing, free phones everything!"
11/03/2015 07:17:00 AM
Lot less of this available and a lot harder to get than a lot of people choose to think. That "free phone" is worth $5.00 brand new, limited minutes per month, intended for the indigent disabled and elderly for emergencies. No struttin 8-year-old would be caught dead with anything less than an Apple or Android.
"Let's take it a step farther make it known that if anyone is convicted of mayhem at that address all benefits stop."
Hell, blow up the whole house and forbid another from ever being built on that land. Refs. -- Israel. Here -- "collective punishment." Illegal.
How many $150,000/year do-nothings we got swiveling in their swivel chairs in nice offices?
Aim that ol shotgun a lot higher and maybe you'll do some good.
"The Feds are letting 6000 dope dealers out of prison. 2753 heading back to Chicago. About 1700 coming back to the west side, rest to 007."
11/03/2015 08:10:00 PM
About 2000 of this batch are going straight from BOP to ICE for possible deportation, no stop-off at Sheriff "Can't Hit The Side Of A Barn, Not Allowed To Carry a Sidearm" Mirakimi's S.F. lockup to be let out the door to kill some nice lady.
North Carolina just passed law banning "sanctuary city" policies. Very large backlash developing.
They instantly threaten to cut off millions in federal funding over a spat about which .001% kid uses which school locker room, imagine what's coming for cities that choose to ignore immigration holds...
...Rahm...
This is right from 35th st...the city wants 20,000 people to take the test at $35,,,they are only going to hire 4000 officers (yea right)...they are going to let people over forty years old and people with multiple convictions take the test even though they will be disqualified from hiring...20,000 x $35 = ? oh and CPS graduates are going to get preference....were doomed
1) The body of Michael Brown had GBR (gun barrel residue) on his hand.
2) The first shot was fired from inside Officer Wilson's vehicle.
3) Deal with it.
11/03/2015 03:21:00 AM
...and (4) wasn't some blood and finger-pieces found inside that squad? Yow! Don't dive your 300 pounds halfway inside the car and fight ofc. for their service weapons, and maybe you don't end up minus 1/2 digit or more like some folks we know right in our own town.
...and (5) DESERVED WHAT HE GOT.
Video me. Oh yeah. Shake that cell.
I used to always say that people from the burbs had no buisness being chicago coppers. These days, I say that nobody with an ounce of brain function should test for the city. Get the hell out of the state!
I know what you mean brother.
What a sewage pit.. I'm only getting paid $76.43 @ hour at that damn VRI.
I should have tried to get a good management job at Caterpillar.
http://www.pjstar.com/article/20151101/NEWS/151109982
11/03/2015 12:24:00 PM
It doesn't matter what you get paid moron. This job is still a sewage pit and you don't produce a thing or contribute anything meaningful to society. You babysit the same scumbags day in and day out in our revolving door criminal justice system and you accomplish nothing EVER. There's educated people that can wipe their ass with your $76.43 an hour without having to work overtime on their days off in some filthy ghetto which is exactly what I don't want my kids doing.
Sure sounds like the most desirable characteristic in a new hire is the color of their skin.
I always thought Diversity was between Fullerton and Belmont!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Remember everyone, the class of 1986 when they made criminals as police officers, because a judge said the background check was somehow discrimination.
11/03/2015 06:11:00 PM
Obama is letting loose 6,000 non-violent convicts in time to vote in the next election. He is also starting a program to erase their criminal history.
here they come, sign them up.
If anyone reading this is considering becoming the police....I'm making a very strong suggestion to reconsider and not become the police. You will have a much better family life as well as personal life.
great article about Washington D.C. lowering hiring standards to get more blacks
http://www.unz.org/Pub/PolicyRev-1993q1-00026
These 2 carpetbagger should have googled "Pacman" before announcing this great idea. They are trying to make the department "Reflect" the population of the city by lowering the standards and that's exactly what we'll get. If this passes, we will soon be working with the 20% of the city that we have been working to lock up. This has been part of their plan for a long time and it will be one of the causes of our decline to Detroit status. Now that pot is legal, everyone with the pot arrests will ask to have them expunged from their records. Since low level heroin and crack possession will be considered a non-violent misdemeanor, guess what? All they have to do is get the one line on the FOID and firearms purchase forms regarding the illegal drugs removed and they are clear to ride shotgun in your squad. It didn't work 20 years ago, it wont work now.
If a Canadian moves here are they a minority?
11/03/2015 12:01:00 PM
Ask Ted Cruz.
Without diversity we wouldn't have the female sgt in 18 vouching for a shooter in an aggravated battery at bevy nightclub. I wonder if shes going to court as a witness for the offender? It would be the first time I saw her in court..
Ha! Sparklefarts
I don't see how they are having another test when they have so many more people still on the current list and the 5 years it's good for hasn't elapsed. They are currently at 8,900 according to HR and they have 12,713 total people that passed the exam.
And do to these "lower hiring standards" people like me who scored 98% on the exam are stuck waiting in the 11,000's, not even close to being called yet. Thank God, I have another dept doing my background. I really want to be CPD, but I'm taking the first opportunity I get from a dept. So much for the most qualified, it sounds like I wouldn't even have a shot of making it off this upcoming list being a white male from the suburbs. Oh well.
11/03/2015 05:55:00 PM
No, you really don't want to be on CPD!!! Trust me. Trust us. What you are experiencing now is a sign of things to come. Look man it's already happening to you. You score 98%, but haven't been hired yet because your WHITE. If you do finally make it on, do you think the tides are suddenly gonna turn? Go to the burbs, you will be happier in the long run. They said the other day on the news the make up of the department is basically too white.... Really who says that? That would be enough for me.
When you enter a court of law, you aren't allowed to film or talk back to a judge, lest you face the consequences of contempt of court. Why are the standards of interaction and expectations so different when addressing a police officer, the first line of law enforcement on the streets?
When did it become "acceptable" in some of these communities to dis-respect police, film and/or ignore their legitimate commands?
No wonder some noble people are bypassing this profession now. The same people who seem to be baiting the police would never tolerate working in a hostile job environment themselves.
In my opinion, you should be afforded the same decorum and courtesy as a judge on the bench, you are representatives of the law. You should not have to stand down when some misfit insults, dis-respects or ignores you.
drug offenders are non violent , look at the 8 year old murdered .
Bet his family were involved in the non violent drug trade .
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Remember everyone, the class of 1986 when they made criminals as police officers, because a judge said the background check was somehow discrimination.
11/03/2015 06:11:00 PM
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There were criminal background checks, and yes, some mutts made it through, just like has happened during any hiring period.
Diversity of mcnoclue try this:
Black coppers cover black areas
White coppers in the less than 30% white areas Whoa wait a gosh darn minute we are minorities where is our minority status? Link cards?free housing?Phones? hey now mayor pass them out now!
I digress:
Hispanic coppers in their areas
Chinese in China Town
North halsted gay coppers of all races!
The idiotic comment McCarthy you made "African-American (Black) officers have told me since they joined CPD they have lost friends! So your saying maybe the friends were criminals? Wanna be thugs? No Black copper told you that, is that from a fantasy dream?
Anonymous said...
If a Canadian moves here are they a minority?
11/03/2015 12:01:00 PM
Ask Ted Cruz.
11/04/2015 08:21:00 AM
If a South African of Boer decent moves here is he an African American?
In the early 90's my boss and I both took the entrance exam. We both were through the process roughly three months apart. I got on he didn't. His response to me was "you only got on because you fill two categories" your a woman and a minority. My response was, I don't give a f**k, I'm going to be making more money than you. Over 20 years later I'm making over 92,000 base add VRI and overtime, I have a six figure income by myself and I'm still making more than you Jim P. Oh and guess what I don't give a f**k. So kids if your listening jump on that diversity it's a beautiful beautiful thing.
And to all the response I'm going to get. Here's my reply in advance. Kiss my a** and deal with it.
why do they have to beg people to apply , we don' t need those people .
Anonymous said...
A 25k raise after 18 months? Seems a bit high to me.
11/03/2015 07:53:00 PM
Open up your FOP book and look at the pay scale. That doesn't seem to hard to do.
The dumbing down of the CPD is nothing new. I was going on in 1972, when they threw out the list of people who passed the written test because there were not enough minorities on it.
Anonymous said...
I know what you mean brother.
What a sewage pit.. I'm only getting paid $76.43 @ hour at that damn VRI.
I should have tried to get a good management job at Caterpillar.
http://www.pjstar.com/article/20151101/NEWS/151109982
11/03/2015 12:24:00 PM
It doesn't matter what you get paid moron. This job is still a sewage pit and you don't produce a thing or contribute anything meaningful to society. You babysit the same scumbags day in and day out in our revolving door criminal justice system and you accomplish nothing EVER. There's educated people that can wipe their ass with your $76.43 an hour without having to work overtime on their days off in some filthy ghetto which is exactly what I don't want my kids doing.
11/04/2015 02:58:00 AM
What a piece of shit you must be. I don't do anything meaningful or contribute a single thing to society? Don't project what you do in a day on to me. Everyday, I either wreck a shitbags day or help out a decent person. Some days, I do both. And if you think the $76 an hour doesn't matter, you will really love it when your kids land that job of waiting tables after you finish paying for them to go to college. It turns out that without a masters degree, it's pretty tough out there. And by the way, there is nothing in this world that makes you appreciate your life like spending a day in the ghetto.
Who wants to be The Police in this climate?
11/03/2015 02:18:00 AM
The 19,000 applicants that took the test in 2013, that's who
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I always thought Diversity was between Fullerton and Belmont!
11/04/2015 05:37:00 AM
No, I believe Diversity was an old, old wooden ship used during the civil war era.
What a piece of shit you must be. I don't do anything meaningful or contribute a single thing to society? Don't project what you do in a day on to me. Everyday, I either wreck a shitbags day or help out a decent person. Some days, I do both. And if you think the $76 an hour doesn't matter, you will really love it when your kids land that job of waiting tables after you finish paying for them to go to college. It turns out that without a masters degree, it's pretty tough out there. And by the way, there is nothing in this world that makes you appreciate your life like spending a day in the ghetto.
11/04/2015 07:25:00 PM
Yeah, you wreck a shitbag's day. You mean you give him a free lunch and a nap in the lock up. Maybe he even spends some time in County or prison but he eventually gets let out and continues to be a shit bag. In the interim, there's a hundred more shit bags to take his place. So again, you produce nothing and you accomplish nothing. I don't expect you to understand that concept though with your limited intelligence and education. You keep enjoying your time in the ghetto and telling yourself that what you do matters. In 50 years nobody will remember you or a single arrest you made but your kids will remember that daddy wasn't there because he was busy working VRI in the ghetto. Policing is a non productive, thankless job. It's not our fault because the system is designed to fail by the powers that be. If you wish this profession on your children instead of them going to college and getting a productive meaningful job, then you're the piece of shit. By the way, the person waiting tables that you so look down upon actually provides a valid service and accomplishes more than any of us on an average day.
Who wants to be The Police in this climate?
11/03/2015 02:18:00 AM
The 19,000 applicants that took the test in 2013, that's who
11/04/2015 09:24:00 PM
No, they just want a paycheck because they're either A) Uneducated or unskilled B) Looking for something better in the meantime
I know what you mean brother.
What a sewage pit.. I'm only getting paid $76.43 @ hour at that damn VRI.
I should have tried to get a good management job at Caterpillar.
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It doesn't matter what you get paid moron. This job is still a sewage pit and you don't produce a thing or contribute anything meaningful to society . . .
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Hum.. I contribute to my mortgage in Norwood Park and PAID OFF the house.
I contributed to my deferred comp thanks to VRI an have over $600,000 in it.
And most important, all 4 of my kids have college degrees because I contributed to their college funds.
SO.. you go fuck yourself MORON.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
In the early 90's my boss and I both took the entrance exam. We both were through the process roughly three months apart. I got on he didn't. His response to me was "you only got on because you fill two categories" your a woman and a minority. My response was, I don't give a f**k, I'm going to be making more money than you. Over 20 years later I'm making over 92,000 base add VRI and overtime, I have a six figure income by myself and I'm still making more than you Jim P. Oh and guess what I don't give a f**k. So kids if your listening jump on that diversity it's a beautiful beautiful thing.
I understand that you are just taking advantage of what was available, but do you ever feel anything for the person who didn't make it (Jim P.) because you took their spot?
71 police test 1500 club members were all passed over, by mayor bilnadic rip , all because are good mayor mr Daley sr passed away,God bless him, the best boss in the world, ret Wagoneer man.
>>>It doesn't matter what you get paid moron. This job is still a sewage pit and you don't produce a thing or contribute anything meaningful to society . . .<<<
I was very well paid to save lives and asses and I had a lot of fun doing it.
So who is the moron?
Anonymous said...
I've always thought this but could never find the right words for it. Soon we will have bottom-feeders "policing" the very neighborhoods in which we all live. We are doomed.
11/03/2015 02:30:00 AM
That is what Obama and the Democommunists want and McNumbnuts is helping them achieve it. This is why they are releasing 6,000 "non-violent drug offenders" and will erase their criminal histories. Yet they publish our CR histories.
Anonymous said...
A 25k raise after 18 months? Seems a bit high to me.
11/03/2015 07:53:00 PM
Open up your FOP book and look at the pay scale. That doesn't seem to hard to do.
11/04/2015 05:03:00 PM
I'll save you the trouble; it's true. 18mo of probationary status, then an insane pay raise. Truth.
Why all this "moron" shit...
That's the one thing I hate about the anonymity of the blog.
Your guys never learned to discuss, argue, debate and bullshit in a manly manor in some of the great cops bars that we used to have around here. Most of you are too young to have know them.
Speaking about, bullshit, and manly ... I heard that the former infamous Inspector later Captain John Manley was either arrested or cited for impersonating a Federal Agent this week, I swear I thought he was dead.
There was a story in the Tribune online but I could not get it to load properly.
It doesn't matter what you get paid moron. This job is still a sewage pit and you don't produce a thing or contribute anything meaningful to society . . .
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It is likely true that very little of what individual cops do matters. That is true of virtually all jobs. One person rarely matters all that much in the grand scheme of things.
Hum.. I contribute to my mortgage in Norwood Park and PAID OFF the house.
I contributed to my deferred comp thanks to VRI an have over $600,000 in it.
And most important, all 4 of my kids have college degrees because I contributed to their college funds.
SO.. you go fuck yourself MORON.
11/05/2015 07:46:00 AM
You did all of that on a few years of Judas VRI?
While doing it you completely ignored the overall harm you did our pension. Back up officers that working police officers needed or may need in the future were never hired because of you.
Very self involved and short sighted, not to mention foul mouthed and ill mannered. I am sure those kids are proud.
I'm glad SCC mentioned the Bluffington, oops, er- Huffington Post. A rag that prints ultra-leftist drivel and allows for nobody's comments or opinions. Some really warped minds there.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
A 25k raise after 18 months? Seems a bit high to me.
11/03/2015 07:53:00 PM
Open up your FOP book and look at the pay scale. That doesn't seem to hard to do.
11/04/2015 05:03:00 PM
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They lowered the pay for the first 6 months the recruits are in the academy substantially. That's why their is such a big gap. The starting pay used to be much higher. All of the step raises after that as small.
You did all of that on a few years of Judas VRI?
While doing it you completely ignored the overall harm you did our pension. Back up officers that working police officers needed or may need in the future were never hired because of you.
Very self involved and short sighted, not to mention foul mouthed and ill mannered. I am sure those kids are proud.
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Wake up buddy. Learn Math 101.
If the city hired 1000 to 2000 officers tomorrow and they paid into the pension fund it would only make the slightest bit of difference.
The greatest loss to the pension fund is because over the last 25 years the city should have contributed a great deal more as they (Daley and Co.) were warned.
Take a class in economics.
I am all for diversity. But Qualified to me seems to be a better approach. To many unqualified individuals carrying a gun, looking for desk job!
I am getting out.
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