Shit Just Got Real
- CHICAGO — FBI agents seized a trove of investigative documents, computers and files from legislative inspector general Faisal Khan’s office on Friday, its last day overseeing Chicago elected officials.
“We received a subpoena of the FBI to take custody of our files and our computers with the understanding [that] we are working with them on a number of investigations,” Khan told POLITICO on Sunday. “In order to protect the integrity of these cases, we had to take the extraordinary step to make sure they don’t end up in the wrong hands.”
Khan said some of the officials he investigated were “devoid of ethical morals and values.”
Well, no shit Sherlock....they're aldercreatures.
This would be a brilliant last "F#$% You" to the City Council if it pans out with a few indictments. In any event, there are more than a few aldercreatures walking around like they're trying not to drop a potato chip clenched in their backsides.
This would be a brilliant last "F#$% You" to the City Council if it pans out with a few indictments. In any event, there are more than a few aldercreatures walking around like they're trying not to drop a potato chip clenched in their backsides.
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Problem is, the feds work for the boss fed who will store these files under his desk in his circular office until his term is up....
Check mwrd and pat daley
I believe they are scared but will the FBI know where to look? Will Kahn walk them through it? I certainly hope this wasn't out of desparation and a longshot allegation.
Someone in a previous thread brought up a great idea which is also cost cutting: one alderman per police district, office in CAPS office cut each alderman's operations budget and make the line item for rent allowance a $0. Heck, they have police at their disposal, cut their staff allowance line item and their phone allowance.
"This would be a brilliant last "F#$% You" to the City Council
if it pans out with a few indictments. In any event, there are more
than a few aldercreatures walking around like they're trying not
to drop a potato chip clenched in their backsides."
Heh!
Aldercrook digestive tracts have been bubbling like
those BIG tar pots your larger roofing companies have.
>Bloop! Bubble! Blurp!<
"Mr. Alderman! The Eff-Bee-Eye is here!"
>SQUIIIRRRT!<
"AAIIEE! MOMMY MAKE IT STOP!"
>Squirt! Poot! Squiirrt!<
"Ugh! Uhhhhn! Hold my calls! Call my lawyer!"
>SQUIRT!<
"UWAAHH! My undies!"
Decent, law abiding people have no concerns.
Serves you dirty thieving hypocrites right!
Your have to either under indictment, facing indictment, going or coming from federal prison to run in politics in the people's democratic republic of Chicago and cook county
I am shocked in disbelief, I tell you shocked. I just cannot believe that there are crooked and corrupt democrat politicians. The modern democrat party is the party of local and national integrity, the republicans are the real crooks. The democrat party stands with and fights for the little guy and oppressed minorities.
Please... Please.. Please!
Indict and convict Rahm and Shortshanks
Sounds very nice on paper.
Call me paranoid, but I'm not convinced these computers and documents aren't just going to waft into the ether without INTENSE scrutiny of some kind constantly monitoring both their whereabouts and whatever progress the FBI is making in its investigations of them. It's not as if corruption exists only at the local level. This is a test of the FBI's integrity as much as it is a test of that of the aldercreatures, in my humble (and paranoid) opinion.
And to ensure that doesn't happen, who will provide said scrutiny? The media? Does anyone really believe that the Sun-Times (to name one example) will be able to provide accurate, and more importantly, unbiased reports detailing said progress? So that the people of Chicago can see for themselves the level of shit that goes on behind the scenes at City Hall, revealed piece by piece on a day-to-day basis as the info in those files comes to light?
Worse still, the notoriously short memory of the Chicago electorate has long been one of the biggest reasons the Democratic machine has remained in power here (at least in some form) for years upon years upon years. If this is truly that big of a scoop, then it'll need to be constantly hammered home in order to make any kind of proper, lasting impression on the public. Again, can anyone truly envision the Sun-Times doing that? But it's the only way, if there's to be any hope that the preprogrammed voters of Chicago won't simply either forget about these documents and files (and whatever may be in them) in a week, or disregard them as yet another feeble attempt by the evil Republican conservative cabal to discredit their noble, selfless Democratic civic leaders...pardon me while I vomit for a moment...
OK, better now. ;) But even if the FBI actually does hand down indictments, what then? I wonder if any of the potential crimes thus revealed will be prosecuted at the federal level. More likely (I think), they'll be prosecuted at the state or (even worse) the county or city levels, since that's where they were committed...undoubtedly in front of loyal Democratic judges, many of whom are just as corrupt and/or incompetent as the aldercreatures themselves. Mild spankings at worst, I'm thinking.
Whatever's in those files needs to be something spectacularly earth-shattering if there's to be any positive change in Chicago as a result of the revelation of their content. Something so big--and far more importantly, something so legally unassailable--that even the most corrupt judge (or biased media creature) would HAVE to render a guilty verdict and levy a proper sentence or risk an angry public's lynching. Or would Chicagoans be angry even then? Would they not perhaps just shrug their shoulders, think "business as usual in the city of the big shoulders" yet again, and just blithely vote in even the worst miscreants' hand-picked successors to carry on the tradition of corruption when the next election rolls around...because by then they'll have forgotten all about it AGAIN???
Meaningful change? Criminal politicians gone permanently? The electorate shocked out of its ignorant stupor? Sorry, but to quote my biblical namesake, I'll believe it when I see it... :(
Please Lord....send the fires of hell to all of the ones we KNOW are thiefs....
And speaking of aldercreatures: Our lord popinjay, arrogant Ed Burke 14th. will introduce a resolution to reaffirm Chicago as a sanctuary city. Co-sponsors are Marty Quinn 13th. & Carlos Ramirez-Rosa 35th. Story in Michael Sneeds column.
We need to Clean House BIG TIME , get rid of all of them , Start a new Era
Ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Christmas comes early to the people of Chicago
Throw all them Bums in Jail , Including The Mayor ,The Biggest Con Artist Thief , Wheres his Ethics Violation Charge when he and his Brother are connected to that Uber Bullshit ,The Mayor already set up there special spot for them at Midway and OHare , in between all Terminal at both Airports just the other day .
http://www.commdiginews.com/business-2/ari-emanuels-billion-dollar-uber-payday-and-what-it-means-for-rahm-24532/
Conflict Of Interest Charge On the Ballerina with Brother on The UBER Crap , WHERES THE FEDS
SHIT IS REAL! Breaking News
Five terror suspects arrested, 2 dead in raid targeting Paris attack mastermind
Pardon my French but unlike here the Comments in French media seem to indicate that those people love their police. Apparently French lives matter.
Obama is still going there for that climate change conference.
Here is a take on what the Egyptians think of him...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXodRLLkth4&feature=youtu.be
OT --
While Barack Hussein Obama mocks us, saying "we're afraid of widows and orphans," police in a Paris suburb have raided another "no-go zone" apartment looking for "refugee" terrorists, resulting in another ferocious automatic-weapons gun battle echoing for blocks, with one female suspect blowing herself up with an explosive vest. Several officers have been injured, and one suspect may still be holed up.
Airliners are being blown out of the sky, hundreds of innocent people are being massacred by organized child rapists, dynamiters, and homicidal maniacs who respect no laws and no borders, and who keep telling us that they will "kill us, make concubines of our wives and slaves of our children and destroy all non-Islamic religious buildings, books, and artifacts."
They mean it, too. They're doing it in every area they control -- and posting videos of it all, showing them laughing and waving a Koran in one hand and an AK-47 in the other. The fighters who just re-took Sinjar found one mass grave of 78 unnecessary elderly women -- and there were other graves. The ancient World Heritage site of Palmyra has been bulldozed into rubble, and the expert curator of Iraq's antiquities murdered. Women who do not cover their faces properly are being flogged, and having their breasts torn with spiked boards, libraries and museums have been smashed up and burned, and people are being thrown off buildings and crucified and burned alive in cages and drowned and beheaded and run over by tanks.
THIS is what we're afraid of, you stupid asshole -- and the world is mocking YOU for your "unloaded gun."
As I write, CBS has a CIA analyst on the air, saying that "This country has got to go on a war footing. Now."
I would say that he's right.
OT --
You aren't supposed to know this, but newspapers in other countries are happy to let us know what is going on in the United States -- with photos.
'F*** you, you filthy white f****!' Black Lives Matter protesters scream epithets at white students studying in Dartmouth library
* The protesters, clad in black, entered the Baker-Berry Library on Thursday
* They chanted 'Black Lives Matter' and abused anyone who did not join in
* Around 150 people had reportedly gathered to peacefully demonstrate
* But soon, the protest descended into the verbal and physical abuse of white students and those who did not join in
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3321190/F-filthy-white-s-Black-Lives-Matter-protesters-scream-epithets-white-students-studying-Dartmouth-library.html
There were some Spanish-language "The People United Shall Never Be Defeated" signs in the mix too...everybody pile on.
The white kids in the library are the enemy -- while outside, the world burns...
OT --
The "Burge" witch-hunters are trying to get a new trial for the Mahaffey brothers, who killed the Pueschel family in their West Rogers Park apartment in August 1983.
The brothers' car went dead in the alley, so there was the nearest open window on a hot night...
...and in they went.
"FBI agents seized a trove of investigative documents, computers and files from legislative inspector general Faisal Khan’s office on Friday..."
This is delightful. Hope the rat nest gets cleaned out good.
Find and seal all the the holes before you put the hose in the burrow and gun the engine -- otherwise they'll be running every which-a-way.
Help, help, save me, save me, eep, eep, eep.
*
They should go to prison and eat prison food.
Yeah, good move here, no Hillary-style "wiping the server" and then saying "At this point, how could it possibly matter any more?"
It's mind boggling how the ward map is made! It's not divided or evenly lined! It's more like a jigsaw puzzle some are even made like a maze! Can you imagine if there was a police station for every ward and that our beats where the precincts!! This city is a joke! We don't need 50 aldermen just like we don't need 50 police stations! Let's have an aldermen for every existing police station!!!!
Given that the wire on the Blago investigation was allegedly pulled down when certain politicians came up, I am not expecting much.
The one government agency that I have less faith in than the city council is the FBI. I expect to win the lottery (and actually get paid) before I see anyone from king barack's fiefdom indicted for anything. I hope to be surprised.
This is why SCC gets all of the keeses. I mention Captain Kirk one day and the next, there is his picture.
I have to sit down now. I think I am getting a case of the vapors.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
OT --
The value of a Syrian passport --
The Syrian passports to terror: EIGHT migrants have got into Europe with same papers as those found on stadium suicide bomber
* Eight migrants have reached Europe with passports identical to bomber
* They are carbon copies of one found on one of the ISIS bombers corpse
* They are in the name Ahmad Almohammad and had same date of birth
* He was one of three jihadis who blew themselves up outside Stade de France
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3322960/The-Syrian-passports-terror-EIGHT-migrants-got-Europe-papers-stadium-suicide-bomber.html
I'm sure that the Obama system of "vetting refugees" will work just as well.
What, are you going to phone Syria for a "background check?" The only "government" there is too busy kicking huge "barrel bombs" out of helicopters onto its own citizens in crowded marketplaces...
The situation is completely out of control, as our President smirks and laughs at us for "being afraid of widows and orphans."
THIS IS AN EMERGENCY, OF INTERNATIONAL SCALE. CLOSE THE BORDERS.
Yes! Yes! Yeeeesss!!!!!
Thank the Lord!!
Go! FBI! Go!
OT --
Just now -- radio news report on Somali "refugees" in Minnesota. Five are on trial and a dozen more under investigation for attempting to hook up with ISIS.
Others were "called back" from here to fight for Al-Shabaab. Interesting mechanism in operation -- that should not be in operation.
Some shrink says that "They don't feel at home here, and this sort of disaffection leads to the sort of radicalization that creates terrorists."
So. Another good reason A. for them not to come and B. for us to keep them out.
Attn. -- church ladies. Knit socks and collect food and find housing for your own people.
How smart do you have to be?
Don't answer that.
Don't worry , sparkle farts will blow a call into the DOJ who will control the FBI and their " investigation "..
The Chicago way.
that explaines the low water pressure in my house. Fifty aldermen flushing their toliets throughout the day. Feds love investigations around the holidays.
Its about time ..the corruption in that city was enough to make me head south..
Go, feebs, go!
Remember, it's a "target rich environment." We're just asking you to hit the side of the barn.
Maybe Ed Burke disclosed his 'illegal' gift a few weeks ago because he heard the shit was hitting the fan? Thangs that make ya go 'hmmmmm'.
(OT) looking like at least 100 coppers more on the streets sorry retired looks like insiders only, but then again working crap shifts for pathetic pay no thanks! Probably when not many take it then open to retired coppers!
Job Description
POLICE ADMINISTRATIVE CLERK
Job Number: 9116-CPD-2016
Description
Police Administrative Clerk
Chicago Police Department
BID/JOB ANNOUNCEMENT
This position is open to all current city employees covered under the terms of the City's collective bargaining agreement with the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME), Bargaining Unit # 1, 3, 4 and 5
Attention AFSCME members in Bargaining Units 1, 3, 4, & 5: When submitting your bid application for this position, please select 01-AFSCME from the Bargaining Unit drop-down menu as it is the only option for AFSCME members.
IF YOU ARE A CURRENT CITY EMPLOYEE AND WANT TO EXERCISE YOUR CONTRACTUAL RIGHTS TO BID, YOU MUST APPLY ON THE BID ONLY SITE AT: www.cityofchicago.org/CAREERS
IN ADDITION, YOU MUST CHECK THE BOX ON THE CAREERS APPLICATION TITLED "ALREADY EMPLOYED BY THIS COMPANY", CORRECTLY ENTER YOUR EMPLOYEE ID, AND SELECT THE CORRECT BARGAINING UNIT.
Number of Vacancies: 100 (Approx.) TBD based on Budget Approval
2016 Salary: $37,248.00/Annually
Essential Duties:
Provides customer service to the public via telephone or through front desk interaction responding to inquiries and providing referral services
Initiates police written reports from citizens
Receives incoming telephone and voice radio calls from officers in the field requesting information
Performs record and warrant checks, logs and processes served warrants, and verifies warrant status with outside agencies
Scans and copies arrest records for distribution to different divisions and determines whether a copy may be released to the press; processes new fingerprint cards
Checks various law enforcement databases for verification of information including (i.e., license plates, arrestee data, names and case reports)
Distributes and collects hand radios, Tasers, and keys to Police vehicles
Processes and distributes incoming crime, traffic reports and transmittal records
Assists the public with filling out reports and applications, and collects monies for warrants and permits
Provides outside agencies with crime and arrest reports after determining the information may be released
Performs a wide variety of routine clerical work including filing, billing, checking, and recording information on records
Maintains a variety of statistical records; compiles and tabulates statistical data, and prepares simple statistical reports
Performs record keeping for various funds and expenditures
Maintains personnel and payroll records of departmental personnel; processes a variety of forms to initiate changes in records
Maintains inventory records of recovery evidence and detainee property, processes storage and retention schedules, and resolves record keeping errors
Orders office supplies and submits expense claims
Prepares letters, memorandums, financial reports, and other materials from oral direction, rough draft, copy, notes or transcribing machine recordings
Sorts and files documents and records maintaining alphabetical, index, and cross reference files
Receives, sorts, and distributes incoming and outgoing correspondence
Schedules appointments and various meetings
Issues, receives, types, and processes various applications, permits, and other forms
Assists in the training of new personnel
NOTE: The list of essential duties is not intended to be inclusive; there may be other duties that are essential to particular positions within the class
LOCATION: Various Police Districts throughout the City
SHIFTS: 1st, 2nd or 3rd
HOURS: Various (10:00 PM to 6:00 AM, 6:00 AM to 2 PM, or 2:00 PM to 10:00 PM)
DAYS OFF: Rotating Days Off
THIS POSITION IS IN THE CAREER SERVICE
About fucking time. How long was that criminal enterprise known as the Chicago city council going to run unchecked? Why the hell did it take this long for the feds to finally do something here?
Start with that crook Burke! What a Dickhead!
Transparency for all.
Maybe this is the reason why crazy Eddie Burke is in his friends sneeds column today welcoming the Syria invaders into Chicago! What a goofy idea! Maybe the Feds caught him with the others and he is playing for sympathy? Hey Eddie you have all that real estate your mansion and allow those condos right next door put them there Eddie practice what you preach! Cannot wait until Trump gets in this political animal ideas must be stopped!
The FBI works for Loretta Lynch.
Loretta Lynch works for Barack Hussein Obama.
Period.
Maldonado and PR fest. Put money on it.
When cops do wrong, Aldermen are quick to judge. Now lets see what u got hidden in the closet
Big Deal, I'm sure they will slither out of it...
I read posting such as this and it makes me appreciate where I live, Cheyenne, Wyoming. That is not to say we are totally free of corruption but what we call a corrupt politician would probably be awarded for his honesty in Chicago. We once had a State Senator that suggested, one of the few Democrats we let out of our Libtard reservations, an state income tax. He was gone on the next election. Nobody is sure what happened to him afterwards. I suppose his remains will be found by a hunting party in the Bridger Wilderness area in a few decades. ;^)
I am not joking when I say a Chicago cop could retire to Wyoming and become a town constable in one of our small communities. The worst you might have to put up with is teenage boy showing off loud pickup trucks on a Friday night, and when pulled over would crap their pants, not so much from scrutiny of tough big city cop, but in fear of what his parents are going to do to him when the constable calls his parents at home. And when you hear gun fire it's somebody plinking cans and bottles.
Good for this Khan guy. As far I can tell he is the only person with the balls to investigate everyone. The city punished him by leaving his department without funding to function. And then dumping him. Now he's sticking it right up their ass. He has some balls.
I don't know what else he's good at, but I would seriously vote for this guy if he ever ran for mayor. On the surface, he may be the only person in city hall that has some ethics. I hope he doesn't fuck up and bust my bubble by getting locked up for child porn, caught stealing, with a hooker, etc. Dude is almost too good to be true.
There has to be a job for this guy somewhere. Someone has to value his style. "Devoid of ethics." Fucking awesome. It's about time someone from within said it instead of the rest of us.
POLICE and FIRE pension boards should be next!!!
(1) >>>>> ' “Thirty aldermen over 40 years have gone to jail — this is the place where it’s most needed,” he (Khan) said. ' <<<<<
Hey! Knock it off Sparky!. Those are 'Chicago Values' you're talking about!! (rotfl)
(2) >>>>> “We are the third biggest metropolis in the country. I would describe to you that the oversight in Chicago is comparable to the Wild West — anything goes.” ' <<<<<
Dammit to hell. Stop picking on 'The Wild West'!!
Sheesh, first it was with Conceal Carry and now corrupt politicians. The fact of the matter is that generally speaking the 'Wild West' was safer than Chicago's West & South sides, and had less corruption that Chicago is so infamous for. The well known phrase; 'Chicago ain't ready for reform', wasn't made in goddamn jest.
Anywho, on that infamous corruption, the biggest laugh I ever got was when in 1997 one of Chicago's most famous 'Mr Clean' pols, the Holier Than Thou, Lawrence Bloom, was hauled away in fucking handcuffs!! The Feds had him on 14 Counts of corruption and they got him as part of Operation Silver Shovel. Here's a short article from the New York Times on the sanctimonious asshole: In Federal Indictment, Trust Is a Victim
as in the past; only the alderscum that have fallen out of favor will go down. A-scum like burke with emerge unscathe. Only in ChiRaq, folks.
And.... Nothing will happen
Hey FBI, How about checkjng out Illinois ex-Governor Pat Quinn selling State jobs with ISP; etc. for the personal gain of himself and the Democrat Party ?
What about the ex 19th Ward Official who sold CPD promotions for $$$, and/or political Quid-pro-quo favors, and the high-ranking Union Officials laundering Union / connected Politician's money and hiding it in out-of-town Real Estate investments to screw the IRS out of Tax Revenue ???
OT: a couple days ago i commented on another thread about the states with Governors who are not welcoming refugees. I welcomed comments, and was informed that we had nothing to worry about because Rauner was issueing a temporary ban on Syrian refugees. Well, today's city council meeting Ed Burke is expected to submit a Resolution to allow refugees into Chicago. Once a "Resolution" it is a streamline to becoming Municipal Code.
Btw, for those who commented about how one can't beat residency, well i've done my research, it's very possibleand there are at least 5 coppers with dual residences. You have to be careful and smart to where you out smart the system. Lots who have been caught in the past were their own worst enemies...as we often are.
it's about time, but....unless and until there's a Reublican in the White House, and an aggressive Republican Attorney General to lead the corruption investigations into Cook County and Chicago politics, nothing substantive will happen; but, if that were the case.....wow....the local Democratic machine could ultimately be dismantled
Khan for mayor!
It's too bad the feds are a political outfit too, just like the organizations they investigate, which is the reason they can't seem to "find" anything on the daleys, buries, or any connected figure. It's unfortunate they see themselves as high and mighty but they answer to the powers that be just like the rest of us.
It's too bad the feds are a political outfit too, just like the organizations they investigate, which is the reason they can't seem to "find" anything on the daleys, burks, or any connected figure. It's unfortunate they see themselves as high and mighty but they answer to the powers that be just like the rest of us.
How fucking dumb can people be to think that the politicians in Chicago would stand by and let someone police them, they are all ruthless thiefs and they need to be stopped. The Daley clan pilfered the balls off of Chicago and never got caught, then Burke comes along and that asshole thinks he cant be touched and so far he is doing a good job . Fuck Chicago
OT - here's an email I sent to my Alderman regarding the Syrian Refugees:
I would like to see both you and Rahm Emanuel take a public stand and denounce the importation of Syrian refugees.
While their plight is noteworthy, the safety and security of the American people must always remain our number one priority. Period. End. Of. Story.
You want to keep them in Europe and use American dollars to send humanitarian relief? No problem.
You should consider carefully that most of these refugees are Muslim, but yet none of the numerous Muslim countries in the Mid-East want to accept them either. Why is that? And why should we accept them when their own people will not?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
POLICE and FIRE pension boards should be next!!!
11/18/2015 10:32:00 AM
Yes, and a quick trial, then fire up old sparky and carry out the sentence.
Someone in a previous thread brought up a great idea which is also cost cutting: one alderman per police district, office in CAPS office cut each alderman's operations budget and make the line item for rent allowance a $0. Heck, they have police at their disposal, cut their staff allowance line item and their phone allowance.
Are you out of your mind? They would believe that they had total control over the police if this happened. It is bad enough that they call all the time with bullshit, but could you imagine them bringing every whining asshole client of theirs to the desk with their problem. Then they call YOU in off the street to handle it because it is on your beat. This is one of the most stupid ideas ever put forth. You want those aldermen and their people as far away from you as you can get them.
Cuthbert J. Twillie: Believe me, My family homesteaded in Wyoming in the 1870's "The Wildwest" was a fabrication of the "Dime Novel". Even during the Indian Wars it was more violent back east then it was in Wyoming. In the 1870's Chicago was very interesting to say the least.
Hey IDIOT ED BURKE how about u figure out why my pension isn't being funded and why my health insurance and dental insurance sucks not sanctuary for ILLEGALLYY in this country!!!!
I think there's a lot of tight sphincters and some Fedheimers raging through city council right now.
Lots of nervous stomachs.
Serves the holier than though, slimy bastards right.
There are friends and enemies of America. A corrupt aldercreature IS an enemy of America.
They won't touch any of them. The "investigations" will be "ongoing" until a time well after many of them are retired, or should I say leave their lucrative positions in order to spend more time with their families, and they run off wealthy, fat and greedy.
IG Khan for Mayor!!! take down those corrupt idiots.
OT --
Radio news report -- (didn't get the name of the country that grabbed them) --
Five Syrians with stolen Greek passports are being detained. Their destination was the United States. They had planned to enter illegally across our border with Mexico.
Undoubtedly more of Obama's "widows and orphans," with nothing but good intentions...
Oh -- French security forces expended over 5,000 ROUNDS in that tremendous gun battle resulting from the anti-terror raid in the Paris suburb of Saint-Denis. Don't know if that included the unspecified "powerful munitions" that collapsed one floor of the building. They are going through the leftovers now, trying to get DNA identifications to see if they got the ringleader...
"Sanctuary City." "Welcoming City."
Etc.
Why does the president insist on calling them ISIL and not ISIS? I call them Deash (dash) it's a durrogatory term for ISIS. Apparently France just redeemed themselves as fighters. "Stop and Frisk"? Heck, they are stopping everything that moves without protest. Awesome!
1:07 AM
You still don't get it.
Using the most recent U.S. Census Bureau population data, Chicago WARDS must be of EQUAL population. Your one ward to a police district is mathematically impossible (with a quarter million residents, the 8th District alone would qualify as the second most populous city in Illinois). After meticulous research and per capita representation comparisons among the nation's other most populous cities, Chicago should have no more than SEVENTEEN (17) WARDS/ALDERMEN.
If you would like to read more about these FACTS, using quotation marks, Google SCC's "LESS ALDERCREATURES = LESS WASTE" thread which was posted a few years ago. The local MSM silence on these facts strongly indicate that the shameless Fourth Estate is in bed with City Hall Democrats to keep Chicago's "SHEEPle" electorate uninformed. It's "the Chicago Way".
Don't even get me started on TERM LIMITS and initiating binding RECALL referendums in this, the most corrupt major city in the nation. DemocRATic politicians would be committing political suicide.
P.S.: "Transmaster" from Cheyenne, WY at 9:47 AM:
I'm jealous. After Utah, Wyoming is the most anti-Democratic "RED" state in the nation.
dont forget the rotten corrupt 19th ward where all the police promotions seem go
f-ck the 19th wardsigned
edison park
Someone in a previous thread brought up a great idea which is also cost cutting: one alderman per police district, office in CAPS office cut each alderman's operations budget and make the line item for rent allowance a $0. Heck, they have police at their disposal, cut their staff allowance line item and their phone allowance.
11/18/2015 01:07:00 AM
I will up that ante. 23 would still be too many Aldercreatures. Only the stations with lockups have an Alderman. Cell number one is reserved for the Alderman's office. They are going to be there eventually anyway.
You want to see this town cleaned up? Put the Republicans in strong so the F.B.I. is allowed to do the job they are paid to do. Hillary will stop them.
Anonymous said...
OT --
You aren't supposed to know this, but newspapers in other countries are happy to let us know what is going on in the United States -- with photos.
'F*** you, you filthy white f****!' Black Lives Matter protesters scream epithets at white students studying in Dartmouth library
* The protesters, clad in black, entered the Baker-Berry Library on Thursday
* They chanted 'Black Lives Matter' and abused anyone who did not join in
* Around 150 people had reportedly gathered to peacefully demonstrate
* But soon, the protest descended into the verbal and physical abuse of white students and those who did not join in
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3321190/F-filthy-white-s-Black-Lives-Matter-protesters-scream-epithets-white-students-studying-Dartmouth-library.html
There were some Spanish-language "The People United Shall Never Be Defeated" signs in the mix too...everybody pile on.
The white kids in the library are the enemy -- while outside, the world burns...
11/18/2015 04:11:00 AM
That last line is not true. I saw the video. Some of those "white kids in the library" were standing in the circle yelling "BLACK LIVES MATTER" and interrupting the library patrons. They're not hard to see.
If you think the DOJ and FBI are going to investigate public corruption in Chicago when they would rather indict policemen for staring cross-eyed at black thugs you are simply naive. As you join you're families this holiday season don't forget to give thanks to your parents and grandparents who elected democrats for the last fifty years. You deserve what you get. As for me, thank God I married rich!
I hope there is a conga line of Alderman going to jail!
Transparency is what we agreed to. But we ain't showing you our emails.
- Rahmf
Do they want total mayhem? isn't enough going on with the terrorist threat? Lisa Madigan what kind of person are you? Your office? Mike madigan wow!
The Chicago Police Department violated the state's Freedom of Information Act by refusing to release a video of a white police officer fatally shooting an African-American teen to a newspaper, according to a recent opinion from the Illinois Attorney General's Office.
The five-page ruling on Nov. 6 was made public one day before a Cook County judge is scheduled to decide whether to make public the police car dashboard video of Laquan McDonald's shooting.
City officials so far have declined to release the potentially inflammatory video, citing an ongoing federal grand jury probe into the shooting. No charges have been filed against the officer, identified by the Tribune as Jason Van Dyke.
The opinion stemmed from a open records request for the video first filed in May by Wall Street Journal reporter Zusha Elinson. The Chicago Police Department denied the request citing the sensitivity of the ongoing investigation and concern over a fair trial if charges result.
Beginning in March, the newspaper also filed a series of FOIA requests for the video to the police department, the city's law department and the Independent Police Review Authority, which investigates shootings that involve police officers. FOIA requests to all three agencies were denied.
After Elinson appealed the decision to Attorney General Lisa Madigan, her office asked police for a confidential copy of the video so it could make a determination on whether rules had been violated. Police refused to comply.
Caesar in DC fiddles while the West burns
Democrats are all multi millionaires Rich and play to populist themes but secretly just steal the public's money and surround themselves with free security for their whole family
Don't care about you or the country
All this while the threat of terrorism that will destroy us goes unchecked
OT: Chicago issued $2.4 million in bogus traffic tickets from speed cameras
City tickets "without the legally required evidence of a schoolchild in sight."
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/11/chicago-issued-2-4-million-bogus-traffic-tickets-from-speed-cameras/
Seriously, I PRAY that the FBI follows up on the obtained information and prosecutes the aldermaic offenders to the fullest extent of the law.
I could name some of my personal favorites, but I suggest they take the evidence on every one of them and let the chips fall where they may. To quote a famous former Illinois Governor, I hope, to the FBI this evidence is... "Fu--ing Golden!"
Get that as*.
OT --
Following radio news --
1) In 2011, I believe, 20,000 Syrians attempted [through known, legal, proper channels] entry to the US.
Only 7,000 got as far as being interviewed.
Only 2,000 were admitted.
So here we have a 90% defect rate. A lousy airbag or toaster gets recalled for a lot less.
2) The usual suspects are quailing that any screening of refugees would amount to a "religious test."
...and if it were? So?
The "religious test" is in very common use today, in many countries of the world.
"Are you Moslem?"
"No."
BANG.
All we want to do is to point at the glowing "NO VACANCY" sign outside...
Ed Burke is a rat take it to the bank !
Just in -- "Syrian refugee" -- and you do have to put that in quotes -- family headed for Indiana has been "diverted" to Connecticut on the grounds that Indiana felt they might be a threat.
One state official made the cogent point that "We don't know who these people are."
Well, uh, yeah, there is that.
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Our Cuthbert says --
"Dammit to hell. Stop picking on 'The Wild West'!!
11/18/2015 10:48:00 AM
I know. It drives me absolutely crazy. A place where you could stake something out and build a life, carry a gun, milk a cow, sing real loud at all hours, dig for gold, nail whatever you wanted to the front of your house, go down to the drugstore and just say what you needed, associate with those of your own choosing, use any name you wanted or maybe none at all -- as long as you tended to your business and stayed more or less within the Wiccan creed of "An ye harm none, do what ye will."
Wasn't perfect, but had a lot of good points.
Any time machine plans up on the web? Working ones, I mean.
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"There has to be a job for this [Khan] guy somewhere. Someone has to value his style. "Devoid of ethics." Fucking awesome. It's about time someone from within said it instead of the rest of us."
11/18/2015 09:53:00 AM
That's exactly why the Rahmsters say he gots to go. Unfortunately for them, they didn't figure on the FBI scooping all the computers and "banker's boxes" of records before Rahm could schedule "GOLAN MOVERS" to disappear the whole load...
AAA ha.
OT --
"Religion Of Peace" Department --
"Turkish soccer fans booed and hissed loudly during the moment of silence for victims of the Paris attacks last week, and could even be heard chanting "Allahu Akbar," during the brief pause before kickoff."
Big problem here. Big.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
When cops do wrong, Aldermen are quick to judge. Now lets see what u got hidden in the closet
That's why the city is going to release the video of that officer shooting McDonald to take focus off of the aldermen thieves.
OT- Looks like the Pentagon has its own version of Compstat
http://www.businessinsider.com/intelligence-analyst-isis-allegations-2015-9
The FBI seized everything to destroy everything then tell the people they didn't find any wrongdoing. Watch and see.
At what point do these slugs stop stealing? How much fucking money do they need? And the morons in the city keep electing these slugs.♠️
OT: Concerning tomorrows ruling on Officer involved shooting..........Rumor is BLM (racist and radical America haters) await.
"If we are going to be serious about police accountability, the city needs to stop hiding behind unfounded arguments and immediately release these videos, as many other cities have done," Topic said.
Perhaps just once the city is doing the right thing, Mr Topic, Other cities and departments that have released videos prior to the announcement of charges being filed or not experience a rush to judgement with left wing nut jobs and media condemning police with out charges being filed let alone a trial. For once city could be saving the law abiding residents from the opportunistic uncivilized leftist restlessness to aggitate peace, loot, and destroy property.
OT --
Some People Still Don't Get It Department --
"French President Francois Hollande held up the vicious back-and-forth as further proof that "we are at war" with ISIS.
"What the terrorists were targeting was what France represents. This is what was attacked on the night of November 13," he said. "These barbarians targeted France's diversity. It was the youth of France who were targeted simply because they represent life."
No, no. Daesh [the Arabic term for ISIS, which will get you flogged at the very least] has TOLD you, over and over again, that you are a "nation of the Cross," a "Crusader nation." They have TOLD you that they will kill you, take your wives as concubines, enslave your children, and destroy all non-Islamic institutions.
Youth? Some of those machine-gunned were in wheelchairs.
Good on the air strikes, good on the determined police/military assaults that apparently prevented yet another atrocity-in-the-making. As you say you will do, clean the worst maniac, hatred-spouring imams out of your more troublesome mosques and ship them home to duck the shrapnel and run from the stray dog-packs while looking for bread to eat. Bring up that aircraft carrier, keep the ordies going around the clock, and flatten things out some. You say "pitiless?" Great.
Just stop parroting this back-asswards "diversity" s__t.
Daesh stepped on their d__k blowing up that Russian airliner. Putin, as crazy as he is, makes a nice contrast to our "unloaded gun" president. "'To Forgive The Terrorists Is Up To God, But To Send Them To Him Is Up To Me."
WEAPONS FREE! Good hunting to all.
God bless him for caring and trying to do the right thing.
Off topic: On the idea of how ISIS started...Maj. Gen. Douglas Stone, a prison commander in Iraq: “If you were looking to build an army, prison is the perfect place to do it. We gave them health care, dental, fed them, and most importantly, we kept them from being killed in combat.”
Sounds A LOT like Chicago!!!
OT --
Yeah, SCC, stuff just got excessively real -- and I don't mean our miserable alderthings.
100 + police/military raids in France just today, 25 arrested, weapons found...this pic says all that can be said about being on a "war footing." The regulars are out of their barracks...
http://tinyurl.com/pd5mbve
God bless all here...and there. Stay safe.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Good for this Khan guy. As far I can tell he is the only person with the balls to investigate everyone. The city punished him by leaving his department without funding to function. And then dumping him. Now he's sticking it right up their ass. He has some balls.
I don't know what else he's good at, but I would seriously vote for this guy if he ever ran for mayor. On the surface, he may be the only person in city hall that has some ethics. I hope he doesn't fuck up and bust my bubble by getting locked up for child porn, caught stealing, with a hooker, etc. Dude is almost too good to be true.
There has to be a job for this guy somewhere. Someone has to value his style. "Devoid of ethics." Fucking awesome. It's about time someone from within said it instead of the rest of us.
11/18/2015 09:53:00 AM
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Khan does not have ethics. There is a reason he was selected for the job in the first place. He spent a lot of time doing his other businesses out of the City's office using their resources. No ethics. Plus he sued the City that he wasn't paid enough. Seriously? Pocketing a 1099 of 210k a year just for yourself isn't enough?
Squeeze Barbara Byrd Bennett first. I'm sure she knows quite a bit. Then, scare some aldermen and make them wear wires or go to prison.
Interesting....
One of the things that came out of the Nuremburg trials is that Hitler didn't sign his name to any order directly related to the Holocaust. The same might be true here and it might be hard to nail down Daley and Rahm. Did Daley and Rahm personally ordered department heads to do dishonest any illegal acts or were they ordered by cutouts and buffers. Interviews by the feds and granting immunity may lead to Shortshanks and Rahm incarceration. We can only hope so.
I always said never trust a fed, but in this case I am praying for them.
Off Topic but Speaking of Shit Getting Real...
Has any other retired Chicago cop, or other city employee, who has gone from Blue Cross/Blue Shield P.P.O. to Medicare noticed that their last bills on the P.P.O. plan are not being paid? Is Rahm screwing with the retirees again? Maybe a department head here can blow the whistle.
I for one am shocked-SHOCKED-I tell you.... (not to be confused with Aaron Schock which is misbehavior of a HOLE other sort).... anyway... this corruption bullshit has to be cleaned up sooner rather than later. PLEASE - before we all swirl down the sink of corruption and irresponsibility. Cut the spending and be careful raising fees/taxes.
OT --
Another headline. Don't need to read story. Whatever the hell happened "SPARKS OUTRAGE!"
Remember that. Whole freaking world affects to run on this basis today. Backfire, hiccup, fart, dropped spoon...
>ting<
Anything at all.
"OUTRAGE!"
...and here they come with the ball caps and matching T-shirts and bullhorns.
In the meantime, Lisa "Egghead" Madigan is trying to run us a Ferguson-[kicking off on a false premise]-For-Christmas by demanding release of dashcam tape on something that has already been settled for $5 million...
>exhaustion supervenes<
The moronic electorate will continue to elect these criminals for one term after another.
Nothing will change ever.
Tom R. says--
"Meaningful change? Criminal politicians gone permanently? The electorate shocked out of its ignorant stupor? Sorry, but to quote my biblical namesake, I'll believe it when I see it... :("
11/18/2015 02:04:00 AM
Great, thoughtfully written, insightful post. Thank you, sir.
A reminder to tyrants -- even of the present day (and I know people who were there, saw this) --
http://touristinromania.net/2014/03/15/nicolae-ceausescu-elena-place-execution/
Stay safe.
Very interesting. .
Best photo and headline in at least five minutes, SCC. "Khaaaaaaaaan!" Thank you for all of your hard work; we know that time is hard to come by, and it all comes out of somewhere else, but you are one nearly tireless and totally dedicated sombitch.
Lot of crap talked these days about "paying ahead;" don't sweat it. You redeemed your "savings bond" in this house a long time ago.
God bless and stay safe, and all the best to you and yours for the holidays that are nearly upon us.
Oh. Burke? Move to Syria or Iraq. Maybe you and Louis "Teeth" Gutierrez can carve the mess up into wards and get the cash flowing the right way again -- that is, if you can find anything still standing that isn't on fire.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT: a couple days ago i commented on another thread about the states with Governors who are not welcoming refugees. I welcomed comments, and was informed that we had nothing to worry about because Rauner was issueing a temporary ban on Syrian refugees. Well, today's city council meeting Ed Burke is expected to submit a Resolution to allow refugees into Chicago. Once a "Resolution" it is a streamline to becoming Municipal Code.
Btw, for those who commented about how one can't beat residency, well i've done my research, it's very possibleand there are at least 5 coppers with dual residences. You have to be careful and smart to where you out smart the system. Lots who have been caught in the past were their own worst enemies...as we often are.
11/18/2015 11:43:00 AM
I didn't see any posts that said you can't beat residency. I did see a couple that answered you honestly and even gave you a couple of pointers on how to do it.
Regarding Rauner, I know I didn't say it was all good because he said he'd refuse them. It just seemed to me his refusal was equivalent to Michigan's governor refusing refugees, which is what you were talking about and using as your rationale for leaving the state of Illinois.
"You should consider carefully that most of these refugees are Muslim, but yet none of the numerous Muslim countries in the Mid-East want to accept them either. Why is that? And why should we accept them when their own people will not?"
11/18/2015 12:39:00 PM
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"That last line is not true. I saw the video. Some of those "white kids in the library" were standing in the circle yelling "BLACK LIVES MATTER" and interrupting the library patrons. They're not hard to see."
11/18/2015 03:39:00 PM
Yeah, the ones called "fellow travelers" always stand out that way.
John Northen says --
"Using the most recent U.S. Census Bureau population data, Chicago WARDS must be of EQUAL population. Your one ward to a police district is mathematically impossible (with a quarter million residents, the 8th District alone would qualify as the second most populous city in Illinois). After meticulous research and per capita representation comparisons among the nation's other most populous cities, Chicago should have no more than SEVENTEEN (17) WARDS/ALDERMEN."
11/18/2015 02:30:00 PM
I'm still shaking from the "First Day, First Job, One Dead And It Wasn't Either Of Us" story.
Whammo. He gets it again.
Lay off presenting facts, huh? Gets in the way of the status quo.
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NORTHEN FOR MAYOR.
We need a binding referendum on the ballot to reduce the number of aldermen to 12. That's all we need folks. With 50 aldermen we have 50 opportunities for graft and corruption. Each aldermanic office has a 2 million dollar budget. What a waste of tax dollars. Every so often they gerrymander the ward maps to get the "right" racial majority to favor the incumbent alderman, unless you are in disfavor, then they draw the ward boundaries to put the alderman at a disadvantage. Ask Alderman Sposato, he will tell you all about it. With 12 alderman you draw a grid with 12 boxes of equal population. All of the current aldermen can run in any box that is currently in their ward boundaries along with any challengers. The problem with my plan is getting a this on the ballot. The aldermen will never agree to this voluntarily. We would need to gather thousands of signatures to get this on the ballot.
"...Oh. Burke? Move to Syria or Iraq. Maybe you and Louis "Teeth" Gutierrez can carve the mess up into wards and get the cash flowing the right way again -- that is, if you can find anything still standing that isn't on fire.
11/18/2015 11:34:00 PM"
Have them both go there and catch Assad's barrel bombs. Hell, send them both there and we will provide the coordinates. Too bad they don't have streaming video like smart bombs. Love to see the expression on their faces.
>>>Anonymous said...
The FBI seized everything to destroy everything then tell the people they didn't find any wrongdoing. Watch and see.
11/18/2015 08:13:00 PM<<<
I hope Mr. Kahn kept a couple of copies of everything, safely stashed away in lawyers safes. Just in case.
Hey SCC, it might be to late, but you should have photo shopped Rahm head onto Shatner's body.
Btw, for those who commented about how one can't beat residency, well i've done my research, it's very possibleand there are at least 5 coppers with dual residences. You have to be careful and smart to where you out smart the system. Lots who have been caught in the past were their own worst enemies...as we often are.
11/18/2015 11:43:00 AM
Yes, you can get around the residency rule ( I worked in IAD), but you need more money then the average copper.
Khan does not have ethics. There is a reason he was selected for the job in the first place. He spent a lot of time doing his other businesses out of the City's office using their resources. No ethics. Plus he sued the City that he wasn't paid enough. Seriously? Pocketing a 1099 of 210k a year just for yourself isn't enough?
11/18/2015 08:52:00 PM
Agreed. Now all this FBI investigation/indictment shit means less $$$ for the clouted hacks of Bridgeport and Beverly.
Send back the military aged males. After all they more likely then not deserted the Iraqi army sent to defeat isis.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"You should consider carefully that most of these refugees are Muslim, but yet none of the numerous Muslim countries in the Mid-East want to accept them either. Why is that? And why should we accept them when their own people will not?"
11/18/2015 12:39:00 PM
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11/18/2015 11:48:00 PM
So true and many of these countries that don't want these type of destructive individuals are extremely wealthy they don't even want their own! But yet as Trump says "Our leaders are dumb, other world leaders are smart" he is right, they dump all the non-producers and terrorists out, our leaders welcome this drain on our country, the Republican President cannot come soon enough go Trump!
12:35 am is right , why not have unions and volunteers to get petitions signed to get this on the next ballot , save $1,000,000 for every alderman .
Less people for feds to investigate
my guess is all the evidence will be safely stored in the FBI's vaults where it is safe from public view.
Btw, for those who commented about how one can't beat residency, well i've done my research, it's very possibleand there are at least 5 coppers with dual residences. You have to be careful and smart to where you out smart the system. Lots who have been caught in the past were their own worst enemies...as we often are.
11/18/2015 11:43:00 AM
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I got away with that for ten years. Is that a record? Probably not.
Has any other retired Chicago cop, or other city employee, who has gone from Blue Cross/Blue Shield P.P.O. to Medicare noticed that their last bills on the P.P.O. plan are not being paid? Is Rahm screwing with the retirees again? Maybe a department head here can blow the whistle.
11/18/2015 09:19:00 PM
If you just now qualified for Medicare, the clock started over with regards to beginning of deductibles for both programs.
"Have them both [Burke and Gutierrez] go there and catch Assad's barrel bombs."
11/19/2015 02:06:00 AM
I have never seen anyone who defines "feeble, chinless, inbred, unnecessary motherf__er" better than this Assad murderer.
"Daesh stepped on their d__k blowing up that Russian airliner. Putin, as crazy as he is, makes a nice contrast to our "unloaded gun" president. "'To Forgive The Terrorists Is Up To God, But To Send Them To Him Is Up To Me."
11/18/2015 08:26:00 PM
...and now Daesh has the CHINESE furiously pi__ed-off because they killed a couple of Chinese citizens they were holding hostage.
We need a mutual radio channel set up, so that the Americans, French, Russians, and Chinese don't bump into each other while running air strikes.
Going to be a real crowded sky over there.
Bravo, Warthogs! 110 Daesh fuel trucks destroyed in one go.
Some bureaucrats keep bad-mouthing it, but look what gets sent to every hot spot in the world. It is not time to phase out the terrifying A-10. It is time to get busy building a Gen. II model.
I agree, there should be a conga line of alderman going to jail ..for a long time. - a citizen tired of corrupt aldermen and their gangs.
"Send back the military-aged males. After all, they more likely than not deserted the Iraqi army sent to defeat [Daesh]."
11/19/2015 10:01:00 AM
So many worthwhile things to do in this world, yet the Middle East seems to produce as its specialty limitless numbers of young men with guns, constantly surging through the streets.
The great achievements of Islamic culture in mathematics, art, architecture, medicine, astronomy -- they named so many of the stars -- ended a long time ago, and Daesh has been blowing up what is left. It is a pity.
There are indeed disagreements between Israel and the Palestinians, but the divisions within the entire, greater Arab world itself are so profound that Israel could simply disappear tomorrow and I think that no one would even notice, so busy are they at endlessly killing each other -- Sunni vs. Shiite, etc.
This is an unfortunate situation that seems eternal and irreconcilable. I think, therefore, that we do not need to import it onto other continents as well.
Let this terror remain in the sands of its birth.
Anonymous said...
Has any other retired Chicago cop, or other city employee, who has gone from Blue Cross/Blue Shield P.P.O. to Medicare noticed that their last bills on the P.P.O. plan are not being paid? Is Rahm screwing with the retirees again? Maybe a department head here can blow the whistle.
11/18/2015 09:19:00 PM
If you just now qualified for Medicare, the clock started over with regards to beginning of deductibles for both programs.
11/19/2015 05:02:00 PM<<<
Ahem... Please reread the question. It is about the "last bills on the P.P.O. plan are not being paid?" In other words before the party started Medicare (Age 64 years, 364 days, 23 hours 59 minutes and 59.9 seconds.) In some cases a week or two before the party turned 65.
Has any other retired Chicago cop, or other city employee, who has gone from Blue Cross/Blue Shield P.P.O. to Medicare noticed that their last bills on the P.P.O. plan are not being paid? Is Rahm screwing with the retirees again? Maybe a department head here can blow the whistle.
11/18/2015 09:19:00 PM
If you just now qualified for Medicare, the clock started over with regards to beginning of deductibles for both programs.
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Yes and no. I'm switching over to Medicare in two more weeks when I turn 65, and some recent claims under bcbs ppo have come pack unpaid. But here lies the real problem, and it affects everyone.
Certain procedures and tests must be approved thru Telligen before you undergo that procedure or test. Many hospitals and doctors will call Telligen first to get approval for you to have that procedure or test and to be assured that bcbs will pay the bill. Telligen gives the hospital and Doctor an authorization code which should be documented in your file. However, not every hospital of Doctor will do that, so its best that you as the patient always call Telligen first and get that authorization number yourself. Get a name too and document everything, because I guarantee you will need it later when you get a big bill from your hospital or Doctor saying that bcbs denied your claim.
And then you will call bcbs asking why they denied payment, and they will tell you that you did not have prior authorization from Telligen. You will tell them yes I did and here is the authorization code that Mary Smith from Telligen gave me. And the bcbs representative will tell you that she has to call Telligen herself to verify that authorization code.
It's Fkg insane. This has happened to me and my spouse often over past few years. It has become standard operating procedure in our house when another denied payment comes in the mail from bcbs. We pull out our self created medical notebook, and start making the phone calls. Thus far every hospital or Doctor we have has called Telligen first and got an authorization code, and as back up we call ourselves and get an authorization code. And every single time Bcbs denies payment telling us they did not receive an authorization code from Telligen. I ask the bcbs rep every single time 'why are you and Telligen not communicating with each other directly?' No one can answer that question.
Which leads me to believe that bcbs does this by design. Bcbs probably figures just deny the claim using the excuse of 'no authorization from Telligen', and let the hospital or Doctor send a big bill to us the patient, and since we are old and senile we will just pay the bill without question, thus saving bcbs money.
As always in Chicago, you must cover your ass and document everything and design yourself a big medical notebook with folders.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Has any other retired Chicago cop, or other city employee, who has gone from Blue Cross/Blue Shield P.P.O. to Medicare noticed that their last bills on the P.P.O. plan are not being paid? Is Rahm screwing with the retirees again? Maybe a department head here can blow the whistle.
11/18/2015 09:19:00 PM
If you just now qualified for Medicare, the clock started over with regards to beginning of deductibles for both programs.
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Yes and no. I'm switching over to Medicare in two more weeks when I turn 65, and some recent claims under bcbs ppo have come pack unpaid. But here lies the real problem, and it affects everyone.
11/20/2015 03:54:00 AM
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I'm the one who gave the simple answer of the clock resetting.
Odds are, you did everything by the book with regards to making your BCBC your secondary coverage by making all the necessary notifications and sending off the proper documents to the different departments. So did I. And though you don't indicate it in your post, my guess would be that you also know that Medicare begins on the 1st day of the month that you turn sixty five and not on your birthday.
I'm not going to address the whole Telligen part of your post. I agree with what you say but lucky for me, I have never had the issues that you apparently have had.
Maybe the original poster or you are experiencing the reverse problem that I had when switching over BCBS as my secondary insurer. I got myself released from the hospital on the last day of the month because I couldn't imagine the cluster fuck that would have happened if I was still in there on the 1st day of Medicare kicking in. Guess what? It was still a cluster fuck. It took three months for my primary policy to be changed to my secondary one even though I was johnny on the spot with having done everything right on my end. I didn't get my new card for three months and every bill had to be recalculated. No one anywhere could figure out how it went so wrong. So, don't despair;It will get sorted out.... eventually.
Mine did.
All's well that ends well.
Good luck.
If you think the DOJ and FBI are going to investigate public corruption in Chicago when they would rather indict policemen for staring cross-eyed at black thugs you are simply naive. As you join you're families this holiday season don't forget to give thanks to your parents and grandparents who elected democrats for the last fifty years. You deserve what you get. As for me, thank God I married rich!
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Congratulations to you and rich.
"... I didn't get my new card for three months and every bill had to be recalculated. No one anywhere could figure out how it went so wrong. So, don't despair;It will get sorted out.... eventually.
Mine did.
All's well that ends well.
Good luck.
11/20/2015 04:28:00 PM"
I think that the bureaucrats like Tellegan and some at BCBS are sadists and have no other purpose but to donate to Democommunists by cutting benefits to city employees.
Thank-you for having a reasonable discussion on the matter.
Hope to buy you a beer some day.
Thank-you for having a reasonable discussion on the matter.
Hope to buy you a beer some day.
11/21/2015 04:16:00 AM
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Thanks. I'll take you up on that beer but you would have to leave Il. to make it happen. A move that I would highly recommend.
Again, good luck.
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