Time for Garry to Go (UPDATE)
- Saying it was in the “best interest” of the city, the Cook County State’s Attorney’s office dropped charges Wednesday against a poet and community activist who was arrested during a protest on Tuesday.
Malcolm X. London had been accused of punching a Chicago Police officer in the face during protests tied to the deadly shooting of 17-year-old Laquan McDonald.
“You are free to go,” Judge Peggy Chiampas told London.
This in light of video proof of a battery and (allegedly) after the judge had already found Probable Cause:
So open season on the police, courtesy of Anita Alvarez. We thought McCarthy had said something about people were free to march, free to exercise Freedom of Speech, but not free to break the law. Battery is breaking the law. Something changed?
We're going to have to call on McCarthy to resign. He's lost the confidence of the Department. Same for Anita and her failure to even appear to be even-handed. The FOP is mysteriously silent, too. Nothing on their website, no quotes in the media.
It's time to stop policing. Chicago doesn't want you to be the police. Rahm has his cameras. Garry is a product of a corrupt CompStat system that lies regularly. The FOP has surrendered the field to the politicos, working hand-in-hand to screw the membership over 10-hour days, slow-walking grievances, surrendering contract protections.
All you young kids, stop. Just stop. Respond to your calls, write a report, return to service. You don't need to worry about the system destroying you. The reason we retirees ended up old dogs is because we were smart enough to see which way the wind was blowing.
UPDATE: To the reading challenged among the visitors, the judge had already found PC when the States Attorney dropped charges in the supposed "interest" of the City. Reading is a skill.
We're going to have to call on McCarthy to resign. He's lost the confidence of the Department. Same for Anita and her failure to even appear to be even-handed. The FOP is mysteriously silent, too. Nothing on their website, no quotes in the media.
It's time to stop policing. Chicago doesn't want you to be the police. Rahm has his cameras. Garry is a product of a corrupt CompStat system that lies regularly. The FOP has surrendered the field to the politicos, working hand-in-hand to screw the membership over 10-hour days, slow-walking grievances, surrendering contract protections.
All you young kids, stop. Just stop. Respond to your calls, write a report, return to service. You don't need to worry about the system destroying you. The reason we retirees ended up old dogs is because we were smart enough to see which way the wind was blowing.
UPDATE: To the reading challenged among the visitors, the judge had already found PC when the States Attorney dropped charges in the supposed "interest" of the City. Reading is a skill.
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posted by SCC (retired) at 1:05 AM
192 Comments:
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The 👍 refers to stop policing. I'm feeling sick today, tomorrow, and the unseen future.
Serious question, I want to retire already but only have 15 years on, I'm 39 so I know I will need to work still. Will I get a lump sum for my pension or does anybody know what % it would be if I want to collect it later on? Thx
The copper should sue him civilly for damages. Then sue the organization behind the protest. Then file a complaint against Anita and do a foia for any files or emails sent through the ccsao pertaining to this case.
Release the video.
Prosecutors said in court this was also recorded on video.
Release the video.
Bring activity to a hault. Only do what is required. If nypd stood together so can we. I'm canceling my vri dates in December to start let's all do it. Power in numbers. Be safe.
I've heard 20% do 80% of the work. Now it'll be lower. All you white guys out there in 003, 004, 005, 006, 007, 011 and 015 better wake up. They already fucked the one kid who spoke the truth about michael brown and was cell phone recorded. Stay fetal
HEY HEY...HO HO ,,,Anita's got to GO!!
HEY HEY...HO HO ,,,Anita's got to GO!!
HEY HEY...HO HO ,,,Anita's got to GO!!
Letting off a protester who hit a cop??
Sorry, but that just screams INCOMPETENCE as well as recklessness and no clue how to administer and enforce the law. What city do you think you are in, Baltimore?
Next State's Attorney's election it should be emphasized to vote for competency and not just for diversity.
A-Fucking-Men, SCC (retired!). Everyone, please unite, stick together and do just what was listed in this topic...respond, give a report, and clear. Back each other up. Get out of roll call, get a beverage of your choice, and find a nice, shady spot. Be like the fire dept and come out when called. The supe said they can protest, be angry, all that bullshit, but they're not going to break the law. They did, and the libfuck got away with it. It will just embolden them even more for the next time. There is no shame in retreating. This battle cannot be won, at this point. Let's sit back, regroup, and go fetal for a while.
I'm not saying Van Dyke was right or wrong. It's not my place to say. I wasn't there...but the next time it happens, you may be 100% in the right, and it may not matter. The deck will be stacked against you. Look at the last year or so. Ferguson, NYC, Baltimore, Texas, Minneapolis....now this. It's not worth your job, your pension, or your freedom.
Where the f*ck is Dean Angelo on this? Are you going to support the troops or not. You're a pathetic spineless pos. You're just as bad as the politicians. Disgraceful.
No big deal in punching the police. Maybe next time there is a bottle or rock thrown that injures an officer, no big deal. You all are free to go. The start of anarchy in this country and the justice system is lending its hand to facilitate it.
The officer did not want the charges dropped. Now the officer is open for a lawsuit. The charges must be rrinstated. The states attorney has impunity to lawsuits.
I'm happy to read this on here. I am all in favor of a work stoppage. Let the city burn. My only goal is to make my 30 in ten years.... that's it. We as a department need to join together like everyone else does against us and as a group shut down.
If you focus on the police the real problem doesn't matter. Blacks killing each other all over the city. Alderman stealing and catering to the criminal element. Everything comes to a head eventually and when it does there will be no asking why. We already know!
"I did not see him lunge," said Dean Angelo Sr., president of Fraternal Order of Police Chicago Lodge 7.
Dean Angelo Sr. is a wormy little cock sucker. I can't stand anything about this jag off.
Disgusted. I'm a SGT. Troops listen to me. Do not do any work? Zero. We do not have your back. Please listen to me. This place will crucify you.
Momma, take this badge from me,
I can't use it anymore.
Knock knock knocking on heavens door....
Gary Worst ever
F--k McCarthy, Rham, Alvarez, Chiampas all these Liberal f**ks!
With this Mayor and Superintendent that will throw you under the bus any chance they get, seems pretty obvious the answer is TO DO NOTHING! LAY DOWN! Let these animals po-leeeezz themselves! Give them the new Baltimore!!!MC is a sell out ! Can his Jerzee azz!
The best part is the Hair Gels will STILL be out chasing morons for a few bags of dope. Writing contact cards like they're going out of style. ANOVing anything that walks. Getting into fights and 10-1's over bullshit traffic stops. Basically jumping through hoops at the prodding of Bossholes that have probably never did what they ask (demand) of them. All because THEY heard it from the DC who got it stuck in their ass at CompCRAP. Coppers putting their very health and livelihood on the line for a segment of society that honestly doesn't give a fuck if they're gunned-down tomorrow.
And these coppers will be doing this today of all days... on Thanksgiving. While their brother rots at County, unable to even get a bond hearing until the judge "sees the video". Bullshit. EVERYBODY directly involved in this has seen the video (except asshole Emanuel, or so he claims). The judge is a fucking LIAR. While every fucking pooch is afforded their right to a bail hearing without unnecessary delay - Holiday and Weekend Bond Courts exist for just this purpose - a cop is denied that same right? Subpoena the judge's computer and cell records and I'll guarantee that either or both show that the video was downloaded from any number of sources.
Plain and simple, JVD is being held captive to pander to the black community and the plethora of ignorant "activists" who took up this cause as it coincides perfectly with their holiday break from school and pairs well with their White Guilt.
Why do you clowns fail to see just how badly stacked against us the deck is? Take note, SuperStars: A shitbird from the west side just got a free pass on dotting a copper's eye because it's in the “best interest” of the city? Are. You. Fucking. Kidding. Me????????
FOP had BETTER address this. IMMEDIATELY. This shit cannot be tolerated. EVER. Are you gonna put on the Big Boy pants and raise hell over this, Dean? Or are you gonna keep keeping your mouth shut and do as the Tiny Dancer says? Just my opinion, but I say it's long past the point to say "fuck the 'best interest' of the city" and time to concentrate on the best interest of US in blue. And that would include being totally REACTIONARY. Infer from that what you will, as advocating a work action is a no-no, but the message is loud and clear.
SCC (retired) is right on the money in saying "just stop". Only thing that remains to be seen is if the youngsters out there get it.
Happy Thanksgiving, everyone. Please be safe and go home in the same shape in which you arrived for work. Fuck everything else.
Neil Steinberg takes to his soapbox:
"Which brings up another factor possibly encouraging unrest. The charges being brought when they were is extraordinary timing, and it’s hard not to view it as Alvarez’s ham-handed attempt to quell trouble by throwing a cop under the bus. Though it might just as easily cause further violence. Because cops hate to see one of their brethren punished for anything, and typically respond with a collective sulk, pulling back and refusing to do their jobs out of the notion that nobody has their backs. “If every guy who makes a bad judgment call is charged with murder then why should we stick our necks out?” Small disturbances have a way of turning into big ones and if there is trouble, it won’t be surprising if sluggish police activity is also a contributing factor. Afterward, we’ll all pretend it was a surprise."
Yes Neil...
The charges as presented by Alvarez look and smell of
typical Chicago political theater.
Not quite, Neil...
We disdain the usual frothy-mouthed rush to deny Policemen
(or anyone) their right to to due process. Trial in the court of
public opinion leads to tainted juries and other such.
Steinberg is an axe-grinding revanchist with his talk of "punishment."
We reckon he and his ilk deeply desire to see Policemen fighting
in the streets trying handcuff each other to somehow make themselves
worthy in his eyes.
Where is this "pulling back and refusing to do their jobs," that Neil
is hand-wringing about?
No such thing, Neil.
Now if you want to wax poetic about the bland, flavorless, strictly by-the-numbers,
respond, drop a report and leave Policing that tanks newspaper click count and
circulation numbers which in turn leads to reporters and their families being
concerned about possibly bunking at Pacific Garden Mission because the
unsympathetic bank called in the loan on Mistuh Reportuh's suburban digs? Well....
Don't hold it against us just because our sympathy gland ceased functioning
many years ago.
The actual adults among us knew from day one to
Police like we had no friends so this "back having"
you speak of needs to be explained.
You're damned right about one thing.
Policemen definitely ARE refusing to
"stick their necks out" and take a lick
for society to do the gray-area Policing
that used to garner an appreciative nod
of acknowledgement from Mr. and Mrs.
Citizen.
We can say that congratulations are in order for driving
Policing into a corner.
It's a shame that such zeal and energy aren't evident in
attacking the culture of willful ignorance and death worship
that has placed more young men of color in their graves than
any number of Chicago Policemen are alleged to have ever done.
SCC the young coppers will continue to be aggressive. To them, all of this is fun. You should hear them talk in the roll call room.
5 parkers, 5 anovs and 5 movers. Thats all I have to sy about that.
Whatever happened to Policemen knocking people
(and folks) down for getting too close in a threatening manner?
We saw some protest footage of these misdirected "protesters"
blowing whistles in Policemen's faces...
These cowards don't dare give "Dude" walking the other way
a side-eye let alone blow a fucking whistle in his face because
we all know multiple many pockets will get kicked in that ass
at a minimum.
Clown the Police without fear of getting that ass torn up.
That's not civil disobedience or exercising first amendment rights. Those are the violent actions of a narcissist doing a disservice to the rest of us.
As I said before, it doesn't matter what the bosses say. They can talk til they're blue in the face. The be all and end all is the court. If the court doesn't do anything then we are just wasting paper and jeapordizing our safety. Stay fetal.
Don't have to tell me twice
As if you didn't sense it before the message can't really be any clearer. You are on an island.
Your bosses and our elected officials will hastily throw you under the bus any chance they get. .... and they'll absolutely not stand up for your rights or back you in any way.
Tire slashing in Mount greenwood. Get the fop shit off the cars
I saw the video of Malcolm X. London punching the officer in the face. It was shocking, extremely graphic and frightening to watch. My children saw the video and are traumatized because of the heinous crime they observed. Now my kids need counseling to try and understand why London punched the police, and then continued fighting the police. Now my kids are worried and fearful every night and day that their police parents are going to get beat up or killed at work. Now my kids can't focus on their education. Now my kids don't ever want to grow up and become law enforcement. All because they saw the graphic and highly disturbing video of London defying the police and punching and fighting the police. AND NOW, my kids learn the judge dropped the charges and London got away with committing a crime against a police officer, even though there is a graphic and frightening video of huge evidentiary value that shows and proves London committed a felony on a police officer. My children could be in therapy for years to try and understand all of this.
Yea I'm being sarcastic, but a video of a crime being committed is the best evidence, right Anita? Or only when it's to be used against the police and not for the police, right Anita? Once again, every politico in this rotten fkg corrupt city of Chicago rules by double standard.
Anita has proven over the years that if you make an arrest, she won't charge the bad guy; and if she does charge the bad guy, she makes a ridiculously weak plea deal in court to avoid trial; and if she feels publicly forced to charge the bad guy, she will make sure the judge gets the nod to drop the charges in court. So why waste your time and energy, and more importantly, why risk your life/career/family to make an arrest that you know will go no where?
The time is now. Just stop. Give these politicians what they have been demanding.
So how does alderscum sawyer manage to get FELONY charges dropped after a judge finds PC...
FOP... Hello, FOP care to chime in on this one? One of our own was battered and this happens?
Alderman Sawyer was among the protesters, and the one who demanded the offenders release.
Sawyers daughter is tapping the offender.
Alvarez thought it was best for the city to drop charges.
I hope the VICTIM takes every possible recourse against her office.
To the officer who was struck: you had your civil rights violated. There is a way to recover damages here. Call an attorney. This is what the system has come to. You could start a national trend here. Make them pay. The head of the black caucus of the city council is on WGN news saying that London is a hero to him. He can pay. London can pay. Cook County can pay.
And they should.
Since when do we drop criminal charges because it's in the best interest of the city? This city has gone completely crazy and to the dogs to boot. Maybe we should drop charges against ISIS because it would be in the best interest of countries not to inflame them. Good God.
The cameras are a one sided deal for police officers. If that same picture/video had shown the officer responding to that punch in kind, it would be headline news and the officer would be fired and imprisoned.
If you wonder why in the world police officers are unhappy with cameras, THAT is the reason right there. If criminals were actually punished for the crimes caught on tape instead of just the officer, coppers would spend their own money to buy them.
Where is Gary's outrage? Where is he in having our backs? This sets a very dangerous precedent. Hopefully he's on his way out the door.
Fuck the FOP!
Time for Dean to go.
As well as the rest of his do nothing crew.
Hey Dean, if you can't stand up and be heard (on a regular basis) for those that pay your salary, we don't need or want you. As you sit warm in your home, we are out on the street putting up with stuff that you apparently don't remember doing or never did because you were always a housecat.
Time to resign.
This is sad but the question begs to be answered. Who was Officer Van Dyke's FTO and who were his supervisors. This officer's actions have precipitated a horror that will change citizen/police dynamics in Chicago and may very well contribute greatly to the city's decline. The parents of the deceased, his community, and those who led and trained Officer Van Dyke have a lot to answer for. One angry cop from the Deuce!
Here how Chicago and cook county treats victims. Hope u are not next
Answer calls in a timely manner.
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The Rule of Law is officially over. If he gets to punch law enforcement officers, then who doesn't ?
Anita is a hack and will be replaced in the next election, make book on it. But it will NOT be because the charges were dropped. That act actually works to her benefit with this electorate. But the winner will be equally incompetent and unqualified for the job. It is the Chicago way and it is because of the party slating process the worst candidates are slated. We all know that and some of us fight it for decades but the election results show us to be the minority. My relatives correct me, they are PROUD Democrats. Shit. Secondly, I tried to email greetings to the little bitch and black entitlement receipient Malcom X. London but apparently he is getting a lot of email from guys like me, he is not accepting email. Fine, I will contact him later. SCC you are so correct/stop policing. I see the future of Chicago as a troll reader and it is indeed Baltimore. You cops should see it too, no more onview anything. But
don't stay there as old dogs. Look for another job in the suburbs. My kid is on a suburban PD that has some city refugees and they love it. They are paid better, the benefits are better and while there are some section 8 assholes all over the suburbs, most people like the cops. Get out of there while you are young.
I cannot believe just how fucked up this city , county , state has become .
I doubt that it could be fixed .
Whose fucking best interest? They are nothing but a bunch of political assholes who have no right to drop charges on something like this. Nice message fuckheads.
Impeach rahm and Alvarez!
SCC , you have hit the nail on the head. This is what they want so this is what they will get. Respond to jobs and that's it. No tickets , no contact cards , no ANOV's and especially no arrests. Gerry , you are an ego maniac who talked a great game , but had no clue what you were doing. Rahm , you act like you're the smartest guy in the room and that everyone else is below you. Well Rahm, guess what ? Your city is out of control with violence right now I can't imagine what next summer will bring with no one doing any proactive policing. Your tourism will plummet and no one will ever want to visit the most dangerous place on earth. Come to think of it that has a nice ring to it. Rahm, feel free to use it on a bill board. Welcome to Shitcago the most dangerous place on earth. To all the police on this blog I wish you a safe and healthy Thanksgiving.
Let us hope the Republicans put up a credible candidate for State's Attorney.
Anita is a total failure who should never receive a police officer's vote.
Foxx will be as bad as the prosecutor from Baltimore who hates police officers.
We are between a rock and a hard place!
Obama backs protests over 'deeply disturbing' Laquan McDonald shooting
Obama Backs Protests
The Jack Russell Show will have coverage in a few days.
Police officers are individuals. They are neither punching bags or sacrificial lambs.
Well said, and maybe time for some blue flu on black friday.
This is a straight up fuck you to all police officers from Anita. If this isn't the nail in the coffin for proactive policing, I don't know what is.
Don't do any VRI. Message will be heard.
Seems like this would be a time to assist the officer to file a civil action against the poet.
The media is intentionally chumming the waters luring the sharks to the surface.
"Stay Alive to 55"
Quit letting protesters scream in your face! Push them back! You have rights too!
So those Pax 501 emails I've been getting from the superintendent are not true? I will remove them from my scrapbook post haste.
You are living and working in an Obamanation, in a City and County run by and dominated by a one party democrat political machine which must always submit to it's voter base. It is like this in most large urban areas where the progressive democrats rule with an iron hand. However, there is hope. Things are not like this all over the nation. The are many parts of this country were the progressives do not have political power and where the police and sheriffs are honored and respected. Chicago is a perfect example of why one should never vote for a democrat. Vote republican or librarian, or independent, but never democrat.
Dont forget the nonsense law breakin deceased family members claiming on tv they want to review the police contract and change according to their demands!??!
"De-fund the police" is one of the street demands.
Just like that.
I guess we can pull fire and EMS too. And a lot of other things. So you find something to do with your garbage and old tires and s__t. Out the window as usual -- and it's "A RAT BIT MY BABY!"
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Water main breaks? Go fishin.
Let's keep this equitable and fair. Put your mouth where your mouth is, and just fill out the convenient Opt-Out form to have your name and address placed on the city "No Service" list.
Out of a half-dozen arrestees from the first night, one apparent pro agitator all the way from Cali (brought a Taser and a knife) and two from Hyde Park. (U of C area.)
Figures.
You are not the center of the God-damned universe. Now take your mania elsewhere and go f__k up someone else's holiday.
Let them loot Michigan Avenue and burn down their neighborhoods - it's only property.
SCC. Well-said.
This should be read by everyone who is on the job now.
At this point the FOP should be filing a Civil Litigation against the "Violent Poet" who was surrounded by supporters and the Media following his victory in court. If the police allow themselves to the Whipping Boys and Girls for all of the shortcomings of Society, then there are citizens out there who will gladly make them punching bags as well Black Folks. All levels of Government and most of all the Black Community has failed. The War on Poverty, The War on Drugs, Welfare; it has all failed. So a 17 yr old, abandoned by his family, since he was a Ward of the State, high on drugs is killed by a police officer. Millions of dollars paid out to the family who abandoned him, the officer is in jail facing a murder rap and no possibility of an impartial jury; what more do you want? Black People wanted Capital Punishment abolished, so it was. Should it be reinstated for Officer Van Dyke, would that appease the Lynch Mob? Or is this just an excuse to attack "Da Man"? If that is the goal, use caution, because"Da Man bees a Half Black Commie." Baby "G"
I am outraged at this BULLSHIT. when i read that charges were dropped on NBC'S breaking news on my phone I was floored....REALLY?FUCK YOU !!! ANITA ALVAREZ, FOP, McCARTHY!!!!! IN THE BEST INTEREST OF WHAT? So we just got punked out by some asshole because "BLACK LIVES MATTER BULLSHIT" what about police lives matter???? and it's on tape? FUCK YOU!!!! WHAT NEXT????GET STABBED, SHOT( GRAZED BY A BULLET) AND IN THE best interest of the ....................................FUCK YOU SCUMBAGS!!!!!
KASS
Is correct read his article in Thursday Trib.
They hid video so 9.5 could get re elected
Don't you know what this does? It sets a a precedent. Everybody with the #BLM movement sees this guy assaulted police and walked away Scott free. Its likely to make them less concerned with ratcheting up the violence
I whole heartily agree.
Unfortunately, like I've always said, we are our own worst enemy. Instead of coming together as a group, it's everyone for themselves. VRI is a good example. While you have coppers complaining about the union doing nothing to help us, the Mayor doing everything to screw us and the public hating us, you still have guys/gals tripping over themselves to get their "numbers" in so they can collect time and a half.
So that means the PO can file a civil suit against the offender? And maybe the judiciary for violation of civil rights?
Not a lawyer... Keep up the good work guys. Without you we wouldn't know what's really happening in Chicago.
Where is the Mounted Unit while this was going on? These protesters are out of control. They have zero respect for anything. I also don't understand why the police are letting these animals get into their "personal space" by letting them stand 2 to 5 inches from the officers faces while they screamed at the officers.
I don't understand.... didn't the Training Academy train the officers not to let that happen? An arms length away. This is ridicules.
I feel for the officers that have to be on the front lines taking this crap. But since the "whole world is watching" I guess they are doing the right thing.
An exempt rank that pissed hot wice and is still on the job and the FOP says nothing while rank-and-file members are subjected to random drug testing is all anybody ever needs to know about just how thoroughly your Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 7 has been politically corrupted
Not the Police...
From everything I have been reading and hearing in the media..the black community doesn't want white policemen in their neighborhoods..so according to the rev's they want a black superintendent..a black states attorney..and all black patrolmen..wow..I also find it curious that..the Sharpton-Jackson clans are nowhere to be found..my sense tells me they were called by O and told to stand down,this is Rham's city after all.
To all the Officers of the CPD God bless and we pray he keeps you safe!
Soooooooo, it's in 'The Best Interest of the City' to allow young men to hit police in the face. Really Anita? Well then kindly inform us peasants in what fucking universe is that in anyone's 'Best Interest'!!
Oh, and the Police who work the streets might want to know too. So they know when the circumstances are that it's in 'The City's Best Interest', that someone they're in a confrontation with can sock them in the fucking face and get away with it!
Jeezus H, if the cops aren't 'Fetal' after this bullshit they never will be.
btw, What the hell is this 'poet', Malcolm X. London, rambling about in that 'TED' video? Is that supposed to be a Poem?
U know I wonder if William Blake or Robert Zimmerman ever punched the Authorities in the face? Do U think they did? They are considered true poets not by me or you, but by History. I'm so tired of some malcontent exclaiming that they're poets simply because they say so.
The World is too much with us. Getting and spending, late and soon. We lay waste Our Powers.
That's a Poem! William Wordsworth would roll in his grave at such goofiness.
He should have been gone many times and in many ways prior to this outrage. He was never fit to attain the position in the first place. I cite his failings in his personal life and the way he conducts himself as a bully in his position as prime examples why. Most of you here know of his temper tantrum regarding his daughter getting a parking ticket for parking in a handicapped space resulting in his arrest. In my opinion, he is not a leader of men based on what he expects out of others but does not provide in his own life. Goodbye sir. You were never right for this city.
isnt that the truth!
Hillary wants all of her voters to know that she is 'heartbroken' after viewing the tape & is going to keep the McDonald family in her prayers.
PC found, video evidence and Anita 's people (probably on her instructions) drop the case? I wonder what the poor schlub at Felony Review said when he got called on the carpet for approving in the first place.
Blinders on
I just loved that Alderman praising his daughter being down there. Why he even said his daughter was right there when the so called, as he put it, punch occurred.
Sage advice from SCC youngsters, pay attention and heed it.
I'm enjoying my 10th year of retirement because I wised up.
Please don't get put in the trick bag, think of YOUR family FIRST!
From a non police. Be safe and watch your back. Happy Thanksgiving.
We have hit rock bottom when justice is denied to a police officer who was punched in the face while performing his duty to protect the people and the property of the city, Because Anita Alvarez wants to score points with the protesters. A society that makes war with it's police needs make peace with it's criminals. Equally regrettable is the fact that I can't attach my name to this comment because there will be consequences to pay.
You think the FOP has "surrendered" now? Just wait until the next round of contracts. Surely everyone heard Rahm blaming the entire situation on the police contract terms, and the little jab about "next year" in the presser on Tuesday?
SCC Retired, thank you for stepping in to help out and provide some advice. As I creep up on 20 years and in my 40's, I find myself thinking about leaving rather that staying until maximum age like so many have done in the past. Almost 20 years of listening to the black community, trying to mend racial relations and relations between the black communities and law enforcement. We have made great progress...now, after helping these communities, they tear down our progress. Fuck them, give them what they want and circle them with a chain link fence....bring projects back and pack them in.
It is outrageous that the Agg Bat charges dismissed out of hand, They said on Channel 7 news that "phone calls" were made. This is beyond the pale. Something must be done. Time for FOP to organize counter marches. Protest the judge. This is wrong.
This is UTTER BULLSHIT! So now this jackoff and others like him will feel empowered to fight with the police and when the police use necessary force to defend themselves and effect the arrest (per state law) they will be in the wrong. What about the white guy that got locked up? Why didn't they let him go? This city is screwed! It is going to be a bad summer and the only ones to blame are the democrats and those who voted these fools in.
"In the best interest of the city" what a load of shit! How about the victim officer? Doesn't he / she have rights as a crime victim? What police officer would get punched in the face by this asshole and then refuse to prosecute? I thought criminal behavior wasn't going to be tolerated? This is how things get out of control. This mob responded by marching downtown and tearing the decorations off the Christmas tree!
Can someone please tell me how does dismissing the charges against this goof is in the best interest of the city when now it's going to cost us more money for the upcoming lawsuit.
CPD is the Democrat Political Hack Police anyways. CPD Management and Mayor just use its Officers as tools and political footballs. You are all made dysfunctional and your own worst enemies, via the corrupt socialist system you all voted for and now work for. You dont even have brains enough to ban together and withhold your monthly dues to your useless, corrupt, cowardly FOP, the "Friends Of Politicians". What do they do at all for you, other than blow smoke up your asses....?
Please do absolutely nothing if the release of this Ahole doesn't tell you something your nuts. If an officer is killed in the line of duty don't think for one minute that this will not be the same attitude by the criminal justice system and your goofy mayor. It will be rationalized by the jerks and media as some justification for the shooting of the pcp honor student who started turning his life around just last week. Your more important to your family, remember no one has your back. Don't be fools, in a split second you could be the next scape goat for the political whores. What a lot of this so called outrage is,is simply a battle for political power in Chicago between the Hispanic and black power structures. You my poor police are simply cannon fodder to be used in that battle in which ever way they can use you.
Amen to that. Until coppers are appreciated for sticking their necks out everyday for simply wearing their uniform, minimum effort is the order of the day. I still believe that 90% of the profession want to do a responsible, competent job. It's the remainder that drags us down. Protect yourselves and stay smart.
It is in the best interest of the city for Anita to go.
Punk slugs an officer and he goes free, a hero? No community service, no anger management, nothing.
Just it is in the best interest of the city to have people slug officers.
At least they didn't charge the officer for using his face to hurt the poor punks hand.
Yes SCC, couldn't agree more. Pro-active policing needs to cease because the community and the politicians don't want it. Unfortunately, too many hard chargers are running around looking for soliciting, dime bag, and gun arrests (both new and time on the job coppers)...I don't get it. It's time to unite and do the minimum that is required to not get in trouble. We all need to just respond to calls in a timely manner, write reports, render aid, arrest on signed complaints, handle domestics the right way, etc, etc. Chasing suspects on foot or in car, and self initiated traffic and street stops need to stop. Who cares if people are hanging out on the corner. If you get a call, respond and remember they "have a right" to hang out on the corner on the public way. Police have been demonized by most of the media in America since Ferguson over a JUSTIFIED police shooting. The State's Attorney's office slapped CPD in the face yesterday by dropping charges on the Agg Batt to P.O. The city and command staff have basically thrown all of us under the bus over the JVD shooting. The FOP is silent and absolutely nowhere to be seen. Even nationally the FOP and other police unions are absent in defending the average copper. We can't not do our job because you can easily get in trouble for not taking action when you are supposed to, but I can't believe anyone is still doing pro-active work. It's simply not worth losing your job and freedom. Until the good law abiding people in America step out and demand law and order, we should all lay low and be re-active and stop taking unnecessary risks just to get a CB number or a contact card for VRI.
Cops arent happy unless they are bitching about something. OK, if you dont like McCarthy, what is your idea of the ideal Supt.? Now, what makes you think that person would have a snow ball's chance in hell of actually being given the job and being approved by the Black Caucus? To pass muster, the new Supt. will be politically correct to the extreme, all into affirmative action hiring and promotion by racial quota, and hiring more gays, women, even illegal aliens(oops, Undocumented Americans) to be cops. All activity, arrests, tickets, contact cards, ANOVs will be broken down by race and you better not exceed the racial proportion for each category, i.e, if 30 percent of the general population is black, no more than 30 per cent of your arrests or tickets will be blacks or you are a RACIST and need to be retrained or fired. Use of Force policy will be heavily restricted. The complaint process will be shortened to 90 days. The slightest deviation will result in recommended termination. Suspensions and firings will increase tenfold. Future Superintendants will be judged for retention by how many cops are fired or have complaints sustained, not by the crime rates. Dont go there, keep McCarthy.
I hope to never again see a Copper in his dress blues at an awards ceremony or in Council Chambers. If there was ever any prior doubt, you see what these fucks think of you now. That goes for St. Jude as well, although I know there will be dissenters with my opinion. Take your kids to church and a movie that day, instead. Happy Thanksgiving to all. Have that head on a swivel. Stow that cell phone while on duty. Peace!
who was the big boss on the radio last night telling the police to back down?
Fuck the state's attorneys office, you work for the criminals. Fuck you!!!
Punched in the face and they let the offender go. Yep, that does it. Signed complaints only.
With a few weeks left before I retire I can not be more saddened with the current state of affairs in Chicago. After spending 18 years working homicides as a detective many of my peers and I have been the targets of Civil Rights Lawsuits. At one point I had four different lawsuits pending in the same year, all filed by charged or convicted murderers. Some of my friends have always been under some sort of lawsuit as long as I have known them.
It came to a point where there was no end or recourse to this seemingly routine practice. There was no action taken by the FOP, by our supervision, the law department, or the Corporation Counsel. In addition, the Cook County State's Attorneys Office refusal to retry any of these murderers left the police officer and detective vulnerable to a Civil Rights Violation allegation.
After my partner and I had been tasked with conducting an investigation involving a man with a gun, shots fired at the police incident involving a tact team in our area, we were named a year later as defendants in this lawsuit. At the Corp. Counsel Office we read the complaint that included my partner and I taking part in the police chase, firing our weapons, taking a witness out of her home, denying medical attention, and unlawful detention at the Area.
If plaintiff's attorney had read any reports she would have known that we were the investigating detectives and had never had contact with her client. I was so livid I told the Corp Counsel if plaintiff's attorney continued with this lie she was going to be subject of an ARDC Complaint.
I eventually filed an ARDC complaint against the attorney for a Violation of Scope of Representation. (Interestingly enough the following year the ARDC changed the entire rule to where it had no semblance to the former rule.) Plaintiff's attorney wrote a 27 page response to the allegation, removed my partner and I from the lawsuit, and subsequently left the law firm she was representing.
On another occasion in much the same fashion a lawyer from Cochran's Office filed against us with fabrication. I told our attorney if we were not removed from the lawsuit plaintiff's attorney would be answering her own ARDC complaint. A year later we found that she not only recused herself from case it was benched for want of prosecution.
The reason for the this long post is to cajole you to hit back twice as hard at these attorneys no matter which side they are on. If any aspect of a complaint filed against you is a lie file an ARDC compliant.
Dropping Aggravated Battery to the Police charges against that protester cannot go unanswered. If the victim officer did not direct the State to drop that case then both the attorney who was in front of the judge, her supervisor, and Anita Alvarez should answer violations of the ARDC rules: Scope of Representation, Diligence, and Misconduct.
https://www.iardc.org/Rules.html
Good luck to you and may God bless and protect you. You are the finest people I have ever met in my life.
Been talking about this with my partner. Why do anything anymore? THEY DON'T WANT US TO BE THE POLICE! Do the bare minimum.
It is now their first amendment right to punch YOU in the face
Just remember Judge Chiampas when it comes time for her retention vote, kiss her ass goodbye!
I usually come here to blow off some steam and make a few sarcastic jokes.
Here is a call for my brothers in blue to unite, PLEASE. We all dont need to like each other but in the light of current affairs I ask for a little slow down. In New York two officers were killed, the whole NYPD showed up to work and ONLY answered their calls. It sent a huge message to their bosses.
Whatever decision officer Van Dyke made does not mean we as officers are punching bags or targets. There was an officer punched and the SA decided it was in the best interest they drop the charges. I am disgusted at that. The mayor and the SA are telling you what you are worth, nothing. Whats next, and ambush on an officer working 99?
Can we please unite and send a message back to the mayor and Anita? I know a lot of you want your OT for VRI, but what will happen if you get attacked at VRI, or shot? Been on this job over 25 years and have not seen us unite together for any causes. You dont need to write a parker or mover, or do a contact card. Do not write anything except a report, do that FOR US!
And please dont tell me the march for a vote of no confidence a few years a go at city hall was us uniting. The mayor was laughing at us about it, he didn't care. Then a lot of you guys voted him back in. He laughed in your faces and then you voted for him, just a shame.
If anyone has a better Idea please post a positive comment instead of telling me I am a troll, or an idiot. This is very serious.
Looks like the great liberal socialist tom dart (Sheriff of Cook County ) is the offenders' sponsor. Check the story at true news, tommy and his friends taking photos a few months ago (that's the offender on his left).How can you charge this confidant and adviser to sheriff dart with agg.batt.on a P.O.,how would that look? Someone in the media want to vette darts hires/advisors ? Wont hold my breath!
Is there any precedent for Nolle'ing some thing that the victim did not want nolle'ed? Any lawyers out there? What's to keep corrupt SA's from doing that ALL the time??
For what it's worth:
Some members of the Black Caucus calling for Rahm/Garry/Anita's heads publicly supported Cmdr. Glenn Evans last year (even with 45 allegations of excessive force against him) and busloads of residents from his districts past and present went to City Hall to demand his reinstatement, saying his leadership led to much lower crime in their neighborhoods.
Wonder if they'll backtrack on that support or if they'll just hope nobody remembers.
We are the new Baltimore. Understand one thing, nobody has our back at 35th & Mich.
They will sell you out to save themselves, Antia just prove that. You are a fool if you do anything any more. Answer your jobs, if someone wants a report I will be happy to write them a report. Don't make any more traffic or street stops. Remember, (if you look for trouble, you are going to get in trouble.)
Keep your cool but, if some moron punches you in the face;Give him a wood shampoo.
You just reminded me why I hate being partnered up with old timers. Basically just an 8 hour shift hearing him bitch and moan.
Portland's black population is 6%
http://www.kgw.com/story/news/local/2015/10/06/police-monitor-123-gangs-year-record-violence/73490306/
800 rounds fired in 145 Portland-area gang incidents this year
Nina Mehlhaf, KGW Staff
Can't wait to see you unemployed Anita, however I'm afraid of her replacement.
" learn to navigate the choppy waters" or this is a 20+ year game of dodge ball
No more VRI,VRE,CTA,etc, etc, nothing nothing nothing. Baltimore did it, New York did it, now we do it. Give the bosses and politicians what they deserve. Nothing. Please young gunners just stop working for a couple of months.
"...in the best interests of the city..." -?
I believe that would be called utter mayhem - anyone can walk up and hit an officer, K9, hell, then graduate to assaulting CFD, civilian walking to Jewel or 7-11...and get away with it even with video evidence.
This city is so fucked.
--No Cop Here
SCC I have disagree with you on FOP slow-walking grievances. I filed one when Donahue was President and Aguilar blow me off. After Angelo took office I got a call from FOP telling they found my grievance in a box in the basement. After 9 years I got a phone call! It was way too late but at least they acknowledged I was alive. Three months later the FOP called me and said although they could ne get back the day’s pay they did get the bad day taken off my record. The City and FOP had not info that my grievance was ever worked on prior to last year. Aguilar was a do nothing POS.
Was listening in on Zone 10 the other night. Was amazed at the amount of self-generated name checks, street stops, traffic stops and plates being run. Not as a result of coppers answering calls for service, just initiating on their own. And I have to ask - why?
And before anyone says anything about their start time or management spot, or says something insipid like "it's our job", consider your geography. You work in neighborhoods chock full of people who absolutely despise you for your color and uniform, are suspicious of you, refuse to abide by the laws of civilized society, would stop to piss on you only if you WEREN'T on fire, would only stop if you were passed out on the pavement to go through your pockets and steal your gun...
And when you affect that arrest, you are left dangling by a court system that takes the word of convicted felons while treating us like liars and crooks.
And let's not forget, if you should be unfortunate enough to be involved in an ugly use of force incident, you will be cut adrift by the bosses/politicians. And now if we get injured on duty, they won't even prosecute the captured offender?
I am not making any of this up. This has all happened just in the last week.
Officers, if you guys in patrol don't stop right now, if you don't stop doing anything but respond to calls and write paper, then you have no one else to blame. The radio on all Zones except the 016 and 022 districts should be ABSOLUTELY FUCKING SILENT of radio traffic, except for the dispatchers reading out the same old tired calls from the same dysfunctional products of failed social engineering and wealth redistribution. Calls coming from people living in neighborhoods that flat out hate you but somehow can't stop calling you for help.
Take your time getting to these calls, generate paper, run nobody or anything. Go into the station to finish the report. Take your lunch, gas, and personal. If you're denied lunch because of a rap, start filling out OT slips for denied lunch. Ask your unit or watch reps, they should assist you.
You guys better smarten up. It's not cowardice, it's not breaking your oath. It's just giving back to the community the level of service it deserves.
War on us has arrived, brothers. We haven't declared war, but it's been declared on us and we would be foolish to not act accordingly.
I am not advocating a work stoppage or strike. Doing what I've said above is still doing the job within our orders and parameters. Only, you are doing it in a way that you are not sticking your neck out unnecesarily. Some calls necessitate more action than paper, admittedly, and that can't be helped.
As for McCarthy resigning, that would be purely cosmetic. Next superintendent will offer more of the same. I say there's a 90% chance the next guy will not be an improvement.
We have the power to affect change, we can force the pendulum to swing back in favor of law and order, make those who would despoil us and deprive us of our liberty for political reasons or some grudge against authority and normalcy come crawling, begging us to start being the Chicago Police again.
Radio silence, guys.
Disclaimer: I do not intend this to be a dig at the fine officers working in Zone 10. In my opinion, you coppers working patrol in the merciless soul-destroying ghettos of this city have the hardest job on the Department.
Please excuse the long post. Stay safe and think of each other first when we're at work.
It seems more and more that we are truly out there alone .
Anita says no rush to judgement , Garry says no criminal acts ....The Streets say we do what we do bitches and you can't do shit about it. Well CCW and be safe watch or make sure somebody has your six and carry on. Gonna be fun to watch "Black Friday" ...total pun and sarcasm intended. They , meaning the "protesters" and the rich spoiled white lefty libs are planning on shutting it down on the Mag Mile this year. So now that we are getting into the real money area what is going to happen now........... What is going to happen if a CCW person feels threatened and fearful for their life when surrounded by a group of "protesters" as they are spitting at them and racially taunting this person or persons. Hope it doesn't happen , hope someone's holiday and life isn't changed by a group of self-absorbed oxygen wasters , but I just don't see how it can't be inevitable
If anyone had any balls they'd cancel his/her VRI for the the next month. Show them we can stand together.
Old Retired Guy Here........Again !!!!!
You know I have to chime in on this issue. This is not something this Police Officer, nor any of You Police Officers, should let pass. Your Department, Your Union, Whatever,Voice You Can Use. This Person, was charged with committing a crime. Two Wrongs do not make a right.
Sorry For My Rant. Please Be Careful Out There. Please Know There Are Many Decent People In This City, and Around The Country, That Have All Of You In Our Prayers.
Since certain black activists do not want us in their community, I say fine, pull out and let the community police itself. Let my tax dollars pay for more protection where I live. I know that the African American community is not monolithic, and there is as much cultural differences among blacks as there are among whites, but when do the good people in the black community stand up?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This is sad but the question begs to be answered. Who was Officer Van Dyke's FTO and who were his supervisors. This officer's actions have precipitated a horror that will change citizen/police dynamics in Chicago and may very well contribute greatly to the city's decline. The parents of the deceased, his community, and those who led and trained Officer Van Dyke have a lot to answer for. One angry cop from the Deuce!
11/26/2015 05:49:00 AM
Wow...hey genious...parents ? You must not read. You need another profession but I suspect you are not the police.
Know the facts before you post. Know your enemy.
It IS NOT Peggy Chiampas!
-610Dick
To the angry cop from the Deuce, Van Dyke has fourteen years on the job. It is unfair to blame his FTO, whoever that might have been. 008 is a huge district, busier than hell, and probably short of sergeants like every place else. Possibly a sergeant was headed to the scene before the incident happened. What I find strange is that no one there had a Taser. Maybe it would not have had any effect on Laquan McDonald, he was high on PCP but if someone had a Taser, and it was used this incident might have been a lot different.
If you check on this story http://truenewsusa.blogspot.com/2015/10/cook-county-sheriff-tom-darts-glamour.html you might get a hint at why the charges were dropped. Another law enforcement adviser to Tom Dart.
AMEN BOTHA! From 4 to go....
Anonymous Anonymous said...
F--k McCarthy, Rham, Alvarez, Chiampas all these Liberal f**ks!
With this Mayor and Superintendent that will throw you under the bus any chance they get, seems pretty obvious the answer is TO DO NOTHING! LAY DOWN! Let these animals po-leeeezz themselves! Give them the new Baltimore!!!MC is a sell out ! Can his Jerzee azz!
If you say "fuck you" to Peggy Chiampas then you do absolutely nothing on this job or else you would know that there isn't a bigger supporter of us than Peggy Chiampas. Alvarez dropped the charges. What did you want Judge Chiampas to do malaka?
Fed-up said...
HEY HEY...HO HO ,,,Anita's got to GO!!
HEY HEY...HO HO ,,,Anita's got to GO!!
HEY HEY...HO HO ,,,Anita's got to GO!!
Letting off a protester who hit a cop??
Sorry, but that just screams INCOMPETENCE as well as recklessness and no clue how to administer and enforce the law. What city do you think you are in, Baltimore?
Next State's Attorney's election it should be emphasized to vote for competency and not just for diversity.
I understand the anger over the dismissal of the charges against the protester/offender, and I have no idea why that occurred. Having said that, please be aware of the mindset of the two women who are running against Ms. Alvarez. One of them would make Baltimore States Attorney Marilyn Mosby look like a friend to the Police. The other is a corporate type who would be over her head in the job.
I've been around a long time, and the old saying "the devil you know is better than the devil you don't", is very true!!
Wow, punch ...charges dropped...unreal ! I have read this second city cop for about 7 years and learned from every thread. There are no words to describe Chicago politics etc.....Really! God bless us all..,....Answer the radio do the job...don't let the job do you...22 in a car north side slmpd..
You just reminded me why I hate being partnered up with old timers. Basically just an 8 hour shift hearing him bitch and moan.
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Better than hearing yourself moan as your cellmate pounds you in the ass at County.
If there's no justice in court better make sure if a cop gets hit there is justice in the street.
Hey, I'm an old retired ISP fuck, but someone explain to me why the VIDEO of the kid being shot put the cop in jail, but the VIDEO of the shithead punching the cop get the shithead out of jail?
I hope this copper gets a lawyer and puts the shoe on the other foot. Fuck these clowns. He has rights just like the "folks"do. No one up the ladder to have your back is insane! I don't know how it would play out, would he be retaliated against by the brass? Would the elected "officials" make his life more miserable if he filed a lawsuit?
I see the comments about the FOP. The silence is deafening.
God bless all of you. We appreciate everything all of you in blue do for us. Stay safe and make it home to your loved ones every night.
Not a copper, CDOT.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It is outrageous that the Agg Bat charges dismissed out of hand, They said on Channel 7 news that "phone calls" were made. This is beyond the pale. Something must be done. Time for FOP to organize counter marches. Protest the judge. This is wrong.
11/26/2015 09:18:00 AM
Slow down cowboy................
The judge found probable cause. The ASA dropped the charges upon the orders from Alvarez. The judge is one of the best ones out there. If you do not know who she is, try making an arrest once in a while and come to court and find out.
It is the State Attorney's Office that you should be pissed at as well as FOP for remaining silent through all of this.
Anonymous said...
I've heard 20% do 80% of the work. Now it'll be lower. All you white guys out there in 003, 004, 005, 006, 007, 011 and 015 better wake up. They already fucked the one kid who spoke the truth about michael brown and was cell phone recorded. Stay fetal
11/26/2015 01:31:00 AM
Your the fucking idiot the other idiots are talking about! The exterior idiots only see blue! Assholes like you see race!! Fuck you and fuck every idiot protesting!
Alderman Roderick Sawyer was on WGN Morning News calling
Malcolm a "hero." He also went on to say that Malcolm
was "kidnapped" by the police. Thank God the anchor
called him out on it. And this guy is making decisions
for this city. Doomed.
I think that did it for me. Not that I was hard charging before this, but I think all of my interactions from now on will result in me saying, "You are free to go"!
Anita was asking the officer about his injury... "Aww, does it hurt? Oh, it still stings? I am so sorry sweetie. I can help you forget about the pain in your eye. You want me to?" And the officer nods appreciatively...Anita gives him a sturdy kick in the balls...officer is bent at the waist, with the wind knocked out of him, coughing..."See, now your eye doesn't hurt so much does it...you are welcome sweetie...you know this was in your best interest."
Do you hear that ladies and gentlemen? They are telling you not to do anything. Give them what they want.
Lay up time guys. 19 years of having pride in catching the bad guys is done . Have the city you desire . Deal with the entitled , empowered lowest class free loaders in the ghetto. I am done.
All that s__t down there -- and there WERE bottles thrown at police, innocent civilian DID get his car window smashed by some Occunut hurling a trash container -- and the LaQuans were just left to take over and shut down entire streets, with everyone tiptoing around them, ordered to do nothing even if they were standing on your feet screaming at you from one inch away.
You'd think you could make ONE felony arrest stick out of the whole thing.
Naw. "Aspiring poet."
Think I've rapped more than once with that bike ofc. got hurt -- very nice, relaxed-type young man.
Hope you are OK, guy.
I understand the anger over the dismissal of the charges against the protester/offender and have no idea why that occurred. Having said that please be aware of the mindset of the two women who are running against Mrs. Alverez. One of them would make Baltimore States Attorney Marilyn Mosby look like a friend to the police. The other is a corporate type who would be in over her head in the job.
I've been around a long time and the old saying 'the devil you know is better than the devil you don't" is very true!!
I couldn't agree with you more, and said the same thing in another thread!
"At the Corp. Counsel Office we read the complaint that included my partner and I taking part in the police chase, firing our weapons, taking a witness out of her home, denying medical attention, and unlawful detention at the Area."
"If plaintiff's attorney had read any reports she would have known that we were the investigating detectives and had never had contact with her client."
11/26/2015 10:29:00 AM
Since they put up that "database," I looked up good guy w/20 yr. OTJ. 2 BS complaints, both unsubstantiated, and one of them filed against him, partner, and the whole freakin watch, just to be sure.
"Nothing from nothing leaves nothing..."
The CPD needs to mentally evaluate some of their police officers suffering from PTSD. You become a product of the environment in which you work in.This officer has PTSD and needs help not jail.Those of you who have spent most of your career working South of Roosevelt Rd. will understand this.
I understand the calls to back down and do nothing. Answer calls and write reports. If you look at JVD, that's exactly what he did, answer a call. Shit falls into your lap on this job no matter how much you try to avoid it. Just stay vigilant and make good decisions.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Is there any precedent for Nolle'ing some thing that the victim did not want nolle'ed? Any lawyers out there? What's to keep corrupt SA's from doing that ALL the time??
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In this instance the state is the victim as any police officer is the manifestation of the state. Therefore, it is the SA's decision in terms of proceeding. Coward of an ASA to not insist this keep going. I'd almost wish every copper stop going to their notified court dates. Fuck Anita and her bullshit games, pandering to these m-fer's.
Why isn't that asshat superintendent of ours out front during these protests showing us how they should be handled. Let him deal firsthand with some of this bullshit. Maybe he can take the next punch. I wonder if that would be nolle prossed?
The game has changed again. Be safe Be smart. What's happened in Baltimore since those indictments? Crime has risen as has their murder rate. The Police? They are alive free and collecting they're pay checks. Society is a changing, you must adapt.
McCarthy needs to go. Yesterday would be too slow.
Mc Carthy truly has no balls and is and always will be remembered as a "house mouse".
I'm done with this job. Time to do even less than I do now. Respond and write reports, that's it. We all need to stand together in this. No proactive police work until this dangerous anti police environment changes.
"You just reminded me why I hate being partnered up with old timers."
Older people are not your enemy. They very often know more than you do, simply by virtue of having been around longer, having seen more, experienced more. Try to take advantage of that.
It gets tiring for us sometimes, which turns into the flip-it-off, oh-God-not-again attitude. Help us out a little, display some interest and ask some good questions -- maybe in a more relaxed situation than working patrol, like weekend beer-and-burgers-out-by-the-garage, and you may be surprised at what we can pass on that may be of great value to you. Some guys are like the Encyclopedia Britannica of s__t, just priceless. >grin<
I greatly enjoy teaching, passing along the street tricks about the real hardheads, the ones who can hurt you. Keep an open mind and try to make friends -- of whatever age. It will serve you well.
God bless, stay safe, and have a wonderful Thanksgiving.
11th Dist King said...
I usually come here to blow off some steam and make a few sarcastic jokes.
Here is a call for my brothers in blue to unite, PLEASE. We all dont need to like each other but in the light of current affairs I ask for a little slow down. In New York two officers were killed, the whole NYPD showed up to work and ONLY answered their calls. It sent a huge message to their bosses.
Whatever decision officer Van Dyke made does not mean we as officers are punching bags or targets. There was an officer punched and the SA decided it was in the best interest they drop the charges. I am disgusted at that. The mayor and the SA are telling you what you are worth, nothing. Whats next, and ambush on an officer working 99?
Can we please unite and send a message back to the mayor and Anita? I know a lot of you want your OT for VRI, but what will happen if you get attacked at VRI, or shot? Been on this job over 25 years and have not seen us unite together for any causes. You dont need to write a parker or mover, or do a contact card. Do not write anything except a report, do that FOR US!
And please dont tell me the march for a vote of no confidence a few years a go at city hall was us uniting. The mayor was laughing at us about it, he didn't care. Then a lot of you guys voted him back in. He laughed in your faces and then you voted for him, just a shame.
If anyone has a better Idea please post a positive comment instead of telling me I am a troll, or an idiot. This is very serious.
11/26/2015 10:35:00 AM
I agree with you 100%. But too many police officers have a huge ego and because of that ego, they go out there and work. They make stops, arrests, avnov's, impounds, etc. Because they let the uniform, taser, gun, badge, etc. get to them. You ain't shit without that uniform so stop pretending you are something you are not.
One wrong move. One wrong slip. One mistake and you will be sitting in Cook County Jail with no bond.
To the people saying boycott VRI....I get it but it wouldn't matter. The city or department could care less. They would send tact teams sat teams gang teams etc etc. All we would hurt is ourselves. It's time for survival mode. Self preservation. Build wealth and split. It's scary times. It's a me me me department now. Just ask the white shirts. Stay safe and be fetal my friends.
Bring activity to a stop. Are you kidding me.
Too many jeans-wearing im-the-poleece wannabes.
That is why the company wants management and
no-bid spots. (other than taking care of their friends)
Produce or back to the beat car.
Know the facts before you post. Know your enemy.
It IS NOT Peggy Chiampas!
-610Dick
I agree, she is very good to the working copper. Her hands are tied by politics as well...
Anonymous said...
So how does alderscum sawyer manage to get FELONY charges dropped after a judge finds PC...
FOP... Hello, FOP care to chime in on this one? One of our own was battered and this happens?
11/26/2015 03:54:00 AM
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Fop was well represented at the bond hearing. A ten minute interview was whittled down to about 12 seconds on TV. Camden screwed up because he did not see the tape but went off of what the P.O. told him. Sloppy but understandable. Now we have to endure this shit. If it get out of hand Friday on Michigan Ave you can target your anger at Rahm. He wants a passive approach. Fop can talk all they want but unless they say something controversial it will never make it on TV.
At this point the FOP should be filing a Civil Litigation against the "Violent Poet" who was surrounded by supporters and the Media following his victory in court.
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What litigation would that be Colombo?
Well we now at war with the Chicago Teacher’s Union. That POS president of the CTU Karen Lewis - formerly known as Jabba the Hutt - was just on the 5pm news encouraging her members to come out and protest Friday against us. Well f-ing screw her and all the a-hole teachers.
It’s time for the police to be out of the schools now. If they want us it should be VRI. There are more po’s at schools on most days then there are at roll call on days.
***Hey Dean, if you can't stand up and be heard (on a regular basis) for those that pay your salary, we don't need or want you. As you sit warm in your home, we are out on the street putting up with stuff that you apparently don't remember doing or never did because you were always a housecat.
Time to resign.***
I worked with Dean in gangs so you're way off base.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This is sad but the question begs to be answered. Who was Officer Van Dyke's FTO and who were his supervisors. This officer's actions have precipitated a horror that will change citizen/police dynamics in Chicago and may very well contribute greatly to the city's decline. The parents of the deceased, his community, and those who led and trained Officer Van Dyke have a lot to answer for. One angry cop from the Deuce!
11/26/2015 05:49:00 AM
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GFY... The copper has 14 years on, he hasn't had an FTO in 14 years! You are the POLICE (I'm disgusted at this fact) take your angry ignorant ass down to the 008th district and find out who his supervisors are and tell them how you feel or else STFU, stop whining on a blog anonymously.
004th district 3rd watch DOG 63
Is there any precedent for Nolle'ing some thing that the victim did not want nolle'ed? Any lawyers out there? What's to keep corrupt SA's from doing that ALL the time??
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If you want justice for yourself then file a civil suit against the defendant. Criminal laws are for society as whole, not individuals, Furthermore, the a police officer is a government official - a paramour of the State, so the ASA can do pretty much what they want, in a broad sort of way. In other words, you have no say - times twice! If anyone has something better let me know...
Roses are red,
Violets are blue.
Fuck you Malcolm,
And yo mama too.
The End.
Where is my award?
Punch back twice as hard said...
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Excellent advice. I hope the injured officer takes it.
And ditto on your last sentence.
I think the officer must have blurry vision from that blow, no? I know I would.
Just sayin.
Treat this job like a firefighter would, sit around and wait for the radio
I am thoroughly disgusted by this. And read the article, it's was not the judge in this. The prosecutor told the judge they were dropping the charge. I am sick over this
Anonymous Anonymous said...
F--k McCarthy, Rham, Alvarez, Chiampas all these Liberal f**ks!
With this Mayor and Superintendent that will throw you under the bus any chance they get, seems pretty obvious the answer is TO DO NOTHING! LAY DOWN! Let these animals po-leeeezz themselves! Give them the new Baltimore!!!MC is a sell out ! Can his Jerzee azz!
11/26/2015 02:28:00 AM
Judge Chiampas ruled that there was PC. It was Alvarez who decided to drop the charges. Blame Anita, not judge Chiampas. Judge Chiampas is very fair, competent, and is good to the police (provided they're not doing something stupid).
If anyone had any balls they'd cancel his/her VRI for the the next month. Show them we can stand together.
11/26/2015 12:19:00 PM
I agree with you 100%, but no one who works this will give it up. And to the guy who posted the comment about 5 movers, parkers, and ANOV's, you are exactly why we don't stand together.
William Thompson was the last republican mayor (1932) of Chicago...
So since then all preceding mayors have been democrats to date..
So with that in mind 83 years of democratic leadership have produced political corruption , police corruption and all sorts of alleged cover ups to include the now present alleged cover up of laquan McDonald ..
Yet the citizenry of Chicago which is mainly democratic continues to vote these democrats into office.
My point is that You deserve what you get, and in this case Anita Alvarez is a democrat, Rahm is a democrat and all of the alderman are democrats...and now they are screaming yelling and bitching for there resignation and for what to vote more democrats into those offices
What a big ________ joke!!!
I have a bench trial and a GJ date both next week. Fuck it. Motion State Nolle Pros, as I no longer gaf. Go ahead and deviate me then hook it up with my weekends.
s there any precedent for Nolle'ing some thing that the victim did not want nolle'ed? Any lawyers out there? What's to keep corrupt SA's from doing that ALL the time??
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In this instance the state is the victim as any police officer is the manifestation of the state. Therefore, it is the SA's decision in terms of proceeding. Coward of an ASA to not insist this keep going. I'd almost wish every copper stop going to their notified court dates. Fuck Anita and her bullshit games, pandering to these m-fer's.
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So we are state property? Why do I have to pay a deductible when I go to the hospital when "poets" punch me? Shouldnt the state fix me free of charge?
This is absolute BS, the cops have to sit there and take it, get yelled at with bull horns in their face, hit with rocks, bottle, punched, pushed, and the scumbags are let go. Was a time and IMO a much better time when a POS like this would have gotten clubbed good then locked away for 6 months.
Response to:
Dropping Aggravated Battery to the Police charges against that protester cannot go unanswered. If the victim officer did not direct the State to drop that case then both the attorney who was in front of the judge, her supervisor, and Anita Alvarez should answer violations of the ARDC rules: Scope of Representation, Diligence, and Misconduct.
https://www.iardc.org/Rules.html
Good luck to you and may God bless and protect you. You are the finest people I have ever met in my life.
11/26/2015 10:29:00 AM
I hope he reads this and does this !
ABCD
ABCD (Ret)
Whatever happened here, it WAS NOT PEGGY CHIAMPAS. She is a friend to the police. When she was an ASA she busted her ass to do the right thing. She came to fundraisers, watched out for us in court and wouldnt put up with defense shennigans. This is on Anita, pandering ass kisser that she is.
We've got your back Peg.
When Anita was new to the prosecuter's office she was assigned to Juv. Court and placed on the 'fast track.' Another person who spent a short short time at 1100 S. Hamilton was ASA Rod Blagojavich.
Serious question, I want to retire already but only have 15 years on, I'm 39 so I know I will need to work still. Will I get a lump sum for my pension or does anybody know what % it would be if I want to collect it later on? Thx
11/26/2015 01:16:00 AM
Don't ask any cop this type of question, because you will most likely get misinformed. Call the pension office directly and ask them any question you have regarding your options. They are the only ones who know the correct answer.
Judge Peggy is TOP NOTCH. This is not her call.
She is totally pro-police and we love her.
db
Sir Robert peel,
You never carried a gun. Cpd officers love schools. Sit around for a whole shift. Let's see how many coppers ask for transfer from school detail. Actions speak louder then words.
The march is against an injustice.
Mikey and coppers with teacher wives are the only ones who supported ctu anyway.
And so it is. Good luck with a spirited resistence against the protesters this weekend. This is a horrible precedent...and if anyone of you protesters are reading this, you have my full permission to punch Anita or Rahm in the face. It would be in my best interest to not arrest you and in their best interest not to press charges. I'd love to see them take one for the team.
Type up a warrant for simple battery and resisting and have a judge sign it and lock him up.
This is sad but the question begs to be answered. Who was Officer Van Dyke's FTO and who were his supervisors. This officer's actions have precipitated a horror that will change citizen/police dynamics in Chicago and may very well contribute greatly to the city's decline. The parents of the deceased, his community, and those who led and trained Officer Van Dyke have a lot to answer for. One angry cop from the Deuce!
11/26/2015 05:49:00 AM
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You must have less than 4 years on the job. You also must not be a worker.
Here's the reality NOW.... The department is divided into 2 groups, Patrolmen and Sergeants in one and the Lt.s on up in the other. Inspectors are out to,gig every sgt. Every time a PO gets gigged, but what the powers that be don't understand is that it's not dividing the sgt.s from the PO' s its uniting us. As a 15+'yr sgt. All I can say is do not lay a hand on anyone unless complaints are signed already. Follow the orders, answer the radio ......... That's it. As always protect yourself and your partner but do not engage in proactive police work. The powers that be don't like the police anyways. Also,states attorneys are not your friends along with Corp. counsels. Any chance u get, nail them, zero tolerance. If a vehicle is unsafe, down it. It equipment doesn't work report it and stay down. AIRA don't work, go,to the station and thoroughly prepare the report. As always stay safe....we have more power to affect change Than we know....
FOP VP came into 001 with coffee and donuts morning after copper punched WTF?
Do something!!! Can't the legal defense fund show up Monday for bond for Jason?
Donuts? Really? Is that how FOP stands by its members ? They are extremely quiet these days
No laws against blocking traffic , attempting to steal a police bike from the officer , no laws against pulling down Christmas ornaments , lights from our city tree . Did you notice most of these crimes by black terrorists .
FOP , where is the CR against CPD for endangering
Police Officers . I have never observed a reporter allowed to stand within inches of Mayor Rams face , why I are black terrorists allowed to stand within inches of a police officers face , shouting at them , those officers could have been stabbed , bad enough one officer was punched , one officer had his ankle broken . Next time the officer should allow protestor to take Nike after a little resistance , then when the criminal hands bike off , immediately arrest him for robbery .
No laws against blocking traffic , attempting to steal a police bike from the officer , no laws against pulling down Christmas ornaments , lights from our city tree . Did you notice most of these crimes by black terrorists .
FOP , where is the CR against CPD for endangering
Police Officers . I have never observed a reporter allowed to stand within inches of Mayor Rams face , why I are black terrorists allowed to stand within inches of a police officers face , shouting at them , those officers could have been stabbed , bad enough one officer was punched , one officer had his ankle broken . Next time the officer should allow protestor to take Nike after a little resistance , then when the criminal hands bike off , immediately arrest him for robbery .
Will any reporters , mass,Marin,zekman ,goodie , look into the arrests of these murders of nine year old that was executed and tell the public if any of these offenders were receiving welfare checks from the city or state ?
nonymous said...
The CPD needs to mentally evaluate some of their police officers suffering from PTSD. You become a product of the environment in which you work in.This officer has PTSD and needs help not jail.Those of you who have spent most of your career working South of Roosevelt Rd. will understand this.
11/26/2015 02:26:00 PM
I totally concur with this assessment, was he a military veteran , too?
There is absolutely no supervision on the street. A sergeant never comes into the frame in the van dyke. Why? Because there are not enough Sergeants.
Following this blog and articles like this for some time...you guys all need to move to Texas. We would love to have you. No idea why you would choose to stay in Chicago to enforce laws knowing the charges will be dropped to appease the underbelly of society. Let the Anitas and the Rahms go to Hell- y'all come to Texas.
You can't go to jail for doing nothing remember we're smarter than the slugs on the street, so give the citizens the police dept. they ♠️
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