Anyone Know About This?
From the comments:
- Off topic: SCC can you address the fact that there have been a sudden large number of people stripped and that maybe it coincides to the report that requested IPRA be replaced. I would hate to think that IPRA is merely trying to justify their existence through an overuse of their power and using working police as their pawns.
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37 people stripped in the past week and a half. All told they are being taken off the street until the pending investigation is closed. Smoke and mirrors at thr cost of guys thinking they are gonna get jammed up but in reality they are being used as "numbers". 99 percent of these people will be back on the street in 6 months but they still have to sit at call back which is not cool just to prove a point to the media and reverinds
Are these the reopened DOJ investigations? Or just IPRA rattling chains?
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
101 Comments:
DOJ is not re-opening any investigations. Even if IPRA or IAD were to reopen past investigations the DOJ already has said they will not reinvestigate them as part of the pattern and practice investigation. Trust me, they have enough on their plate seeing as this is the largest department they have ever had to do a pattern and practice investigation on. I have also heard a good number of people have been getting stripped also... some of them have been for pretty goofy stuff that normally would not see people stripped for and others were things that dont surprise me. could be a coincidence but its not... they are looking to keep their jobs plain and simple. hope they dont "try to push" some guys to get charged because if they get guys charged without enough evidence in the end there is a great making for a lawsuit because we all can see it that they are just doing this to justify their existence.. If you strip and get a guy charged and he ends up beating it in the end because of a rushed and political investigation then you are just asking to give up hundreds of thousands if not millions to a class action if enough guys/gals are messed with. the city can do this though but if they get reckless with it or go to far just to prove a point they could end up being in trouble with lawsuits. good luck to anyone involved in this new political game, keep your heads on straight, its not the end of the world.. Heck, Ive been in the rubber gun unit two separate times and all has been fine.
Count yourself lucky if you haven't been stripped. Set up a go fund me account and party and wait it out. Most will return but I'm sure examples will be made.
IPRA is so full of shit
When was IPRA granted the power to strip Police Officers ?
I thought only the Superintendant had that power.?
Chicago politics at their finest.
Don't worry about it....the commander has your back!!!
ipra is going to be disbanded soon, heard it from someone in know.........
This job has lost control.
Don't worry , they will never hurt workers .
***FYI** any boss today is full of shit sgt, lt, capt, xo, whatever!!!
Let the city burn, no probable cause no stop, no complantant no stop.
As a victim of this unjust attack, I have yet to be served with any allegations, I was told the DJ is not involved but who knows if they're going to bring them in
Does anyone know about THIS? Retirees are receiving letters from the city stating that their past CR#'s are being re-opened and re-investigated. Two of my recently retired friends have received these letters. You cant even escape this departments bullshit even after you retire!
I think it's probably a little of both: DOJ investigations along with IPRA overreacting and trying to rattle chains.
Once again the copper takes the brunt of these political games.
Yet another reason to stay fetal..... do the absolute bare minimum that's required.
The "community" "demands" that those racist police be disciplined, jailed etc.
Good morning Keith :)
It's clearly open season on coppers.
I recall Ray Risley stripping fifteen to twenty police officers and placing them in callback. A year later and a new head of IAD and it was found that not one investigation could be sustained. The police officers were reinstated without being suspended a day.
Me think this is only the beginning of the witch hunt, Stay Fetal no extra pay for being a hero
If this is true. How many are above the rank of Sgt?
Anyone see how they reassign the supervisors but not strip them
no matter what the allegations are.
Let's follow our laeders.
State is bankrupt
County is bankrupt
City is beyond bankrupt......
Now follow the cream of the CPD. The ones merit promoted multiple times.
The ones arrested (Dennis Walsh), and the ones stripping the working officers.
All while pending investigations.
Hey command staff are you listening? You are losing the blue shirts again.
Who are you going to get to answer call?
Save Your Own Ass Syndrome.
Again, why is anyone working ? We are needed, but not appreciated. Fuck these ingrates!!!!
Collect your check and go home.
F@$& Ipra and the doj!!!
If this is true then a lack of communication between IPRA, the city and the affected officer and his union is occurring. The FOP must force this issue with the department so these officers know what is going on and are given some sort of time-line. To keep an honest hardworking police officer in limbo is not fair and cruel.
I thought we were told DOJ is not investigating people. Just patterns and practices. That's what Escalante said in his video
True story, IPRA reopening cases trying to save themselves
I have a neighbor who is stripped and has been in callback for quite some time and they are so short handed there that they were trying to hire retired coppers but that didn't do well so rhe reason they stripped so many was to man the phones there
and you still have guys doing ISR's......
Now that fetal policing in the norm, they must have more time to look at older cases.
Same thing happened after NATO.
Old CR#s resurfaced and 30days to 30 days pending were given out like candy.
Thanks to everyone for a great effort in NATO! Now prepare to get fucked!
IPRA wants numbers just like everyone in this city does, however they want their numbers to stick because they are militant.
They are also dangerous to us, to the city and to themselves. They have no knowledge of how to conduct an investigation nor labor law. And they do not have an attorney reviewing their findings before they are imposed. IPRA costs the city a lot of backpay and destroys any motivation and morale that is left in the department.
However if you think IPRA is bad now wait until you have the new and improved REAL IPRA. Almost everything they do will be sustained and they will continue to be held not accountable for their screw ups.
why should they care one bit? they still get paid.
Any case involving police putting their hands on anybody is under the microscope.
Heard a rumor if you lost in a civil trial, your CR is being re-opened and looked at
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Me think this is only the beginning of the witch hunt, Stay Fetal no extra pay for being a hero
$$$$$$
Court and late arrest equal extra pay. So actually, you are incorrect.
The only light at the end of the tunnel is leave this "F" "UP" department and go somewhere for that piece of mind. Many of us drank that punch and believed in enforcing what the law states and believing in the frame of what a law says you can do and can't do, however, this witch hunt going on has no room or explanation on either side of that coin. There is already biased way of judgment on officers who were doing the right thing on this job, the feebs doesn't want to hear and understand your side of the reality on the streets, they only want to play law enforcement from behind a desk suit and tie in a court room where you are guilty without even a fair trial, or even a fair investigation. Its troubling times for all, its a sinking ship for a political agenda....take care of your families and get the heck out and move on or your gonna be the sheep eaten and spit out by the wolves!!!
Page May is at it again...this time she's trying to ruin the reputation of a business that caters to blacks.
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20160419/south-loop/activist-accuses-reggies-bouncer-of-racism-but-club-denies-claims
They have been calling everyone in, the past few months over BS CR's that should of never been taken. They want to interview everyone now in person, IF U GET A CR YOU ARE GOING IN FOR AN INTERVIEW
The Feds don't create cases, only snitches, they are trying to get someone to talk, even if they don't know anything. If you know something, by all means say it, if you don't STFU.
What's GE been up to? Haven't heard anything since his aquital.
Anonymous said...
Does anyone know about THIS? Retirees are receiving letters from the city stating that their past CR#'s are being re-opened and re-investigated. Two of my recently retired friends have received these letters. You cant even escape this departments bullshit even after you retire!
4/19/2016 02:52:00 AM
Yep...I retired in October, and just got mine in the mail. It basically says that it's just to inform me that C.R.'s are being re-opened, and that they are the government and we have nothing to worry about...they're here to help...mmmm hmmm.
Officers need to be aware of what is going on withbour pension fund. There is cozy link to the pension fund of the police and Bill Ayers Chicago's favorite disrupter. Below is a link to him and the Police Pension boards Head Physician. More info to come ahead in the next few months. There is a ethics waiver sighned every year by board members and employees and this is a clear violation.
http://www.worldviewweekend.com/news/article/obama-file-91-barack-obama-and-socialist-healthcare-scamsters
If you will stay fetal, you won't have nothing to worry about. Oh ya, fuck Rahm Emanual,.
Anonymous said...
I thought we were told DOJ is not investigating people. Just patterns and practices. That's what Escalante said in his video
4/19/2016 08:03:00 AM
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I have a bridge to sell you.
Anonymous said...
"and you still have guys doing ISR's......"
4/19/2016 08:27:00 AM
Say it again, but louder.
These guys out here still
chasing, still "being aggressive,"
still being hard head hard chargers
and for what, exactly?
"Duhhh... At least I'm not a dog
like everybody else!"
"I've been sued XX times and I
beat them all. You guys are just
using this to be lazy while I'm
a worker."
Riiiight....
There are powers at work trying to
Re-boot the mission and meaning of
Policing and actually being The
Police into something that suits
their narrow purposes and agenda.
Everyone with sense and discernment
can see the studied avoidance of addressing
the daily non-stop dance of death, destruction
and willful ignorance occurring in the fields of
The Chicago Democratic Slave Plantation.
It's far safer to "stick it in the Cops ear"
than to take substantive action to solidly
check the 50 year long, bloody shit-show
perpetrated on the city's streets by the
"Catered-To Constituency."
The political calculus dictates that The Police
be openly warred against.
The political powers have no appetite for throwing down the
gauntlet against a constituency they depend on
as a check against upright people ever being able
to re-take a city in which they pay the lion's share
of the freight to keep going.
Therefore?
The takers have overrun the contributors
in this town and that is what the political
powers are catering to.
The takers demand that The Police and Policing
be driven into a corner to the detriment of the rest
of everybody else.
It's ok though, I'm sure IPRA will give a pass to those of you still being proactive and make a mistake or questionable decision and things turn to crap. I'm sure they'll take your and your family's well being into consideration. Now go out there and lock 'em up! No worries.
Stay fetal, IPRA another private non-sworn entity is facing the gavel. Stay fetal, back up each other, no ISR if not needed, give the good citizens of the south a report for domestic related stolen cars or phones and go home safely collecting a check.
nonymous said...
I recall Ray Risley stripping fifteen to twenty police officers and placing them in callback. A year later and a new head of IAD and it was found that not one investigation could be sustained. The police officers were reinstated without being suspended a day.
4/19/2016 05:27:00 AM
Ray Risley, truly a man out for himself and as I recall, a few skeletons in his closet? If IPRA or IAD reopen cases that have been adjudicated, absent new evidence, I would think that this would start a confrontation with the union. Is there a double jeopardy standard when it comes to labor just cause ? I don't really know . Yes, it certainly looks like they want to save their jobs on the backs of the working police. I think that you will see more sustained cases when there is a one on one or he said/she said.
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Anonymous Anonymous said...
I have a neighbor who is stripped and has been in callback for quite some time and they are so short handed there that they were trying to hire retired coppers but that didn't do well so rhe reason they stripped so many was to man the phones there
4/19/2016 08:10:00 AM
my neighbor is a retired copper that was interviewed, no one wants that job it is a dumping ground, tight space,dirty looks more like a "labor camp" than a respectable place to work! saying that the city has a big plan and Eddie Johnson is on board to hire retired coppers to staff district spots as the audit is almost over with gold star club having many coppers work inside for their personal purposes. the city figures retired coppers would be utilized thus putting able bodied coppers where they belong patrolling the streets not hiding in plain sight!
Also the airport shenanigans is about over, the alderman and the union representing airport DOA coppers is furious they are not armed, and the CPD contingent better hold on tight, with edgeworth forced out, tommy argenbright papers in the ride out will be smooth the bigger question who is the union rep with the big mouth constantly calling fop calling out other coppers stirring the pot you work at the airport how much more time off can you have? Not naming him but come on guy its enough,we are busy at FOP dealing with major issues stop crying, your helping to create a mess sir!
IPRA can strip you without even giving you an allegation. They just say it's "confidential." Cops have sat at callback for a year without being served any paperwork. There is zero due process and the FOP will just tell you "hey,you're getting paid. It will be ok." The stress is amazing especially when you don't have answers why you are there. And the IPRA standard is the cop must prove innocence even if the allegations, when received, are shaky at best. You are guilty until proven innocent. And if you get Bowens as your investigator, be ready for police board. Lack of evidence doesn't matter to IPRA, they all for the gangbangers. And word of advice: if stripped, pay for a lawyer right away to go after IPRA. It sucks, but FOP won't help and it's the only way to push IPRA on their BS. Sad times
2 from 004 last week and at least 1 the week before. All hard workers.......something from a few years ago. WTF???
ISRs have nothing to do with it you idiot. This is clearly IPRA. There's a new head at IPRA, a former Fed. Feds like to revisit things previously found unsustainable, well, because Feds think they are better than every other investigator and they can comb the facts and make this happen; I mean bring justice. There is talk of disbanding IPRA so the push is on to "find" a few cases that were investigated by the former IPRA staff and "find" a few that perhaps can be massaged and stretched to make it seem like something may have been missed. Stripping has a duel purpose. Primarily it is a political move, moreover a public relations move to offer the perception that they (IPRA) are taking charge. They are getting control of rogue coppers and they will bring truth and justice to the City. It also is a scare tactic to the rank and file that is meant to send a message that we better be on our best behavior, that IPRA and IAD are a force to be reckoned with and that we best fear their wrath. I would hope the Unions will unite and ensure the City is not overstepping their boundaries and that the people that have been stripped, or those that may get stripped in the future are not having their contractual (or constitutional) rights violated. Disciplinary action is mentioned in the contract and our Unions should be reviewing all measures to ensure the City has the right to strip for anything or are there only certain investigations for that measure to occur.
Off topic but funny it seems another aspiring Chicago rapper has become worm food ... 1 dead 4 injured headline reads ... Shot in park ... Ya know I'm thinking aspiring rapper is likely the deadliest job in the country hmmmm by God there is a rap song if ever I heard one ...I'm an Expiring rapper just looking for ...lol
DOJ, you can investigate more into coppers because of a bogus movement, "black lives matter", than you can to a political figure like Hillary Clinton and God knows how many more after they blatantly broke the law with government classified information, (emails) ???? I say fuck you and your horse you rode up on, you are nothing more than a political organization, no integrity at all. You prosecute based on political reasons, nothing more, a disgrace. Don't ever let a DOJ figure tell you there better, they are not, until they prosecute Hillary for her crimes, you ain't shit.
Thank you to all the over achievers on this job that took shortcuts in police work over the years. The time has come for you to pay the piper. Let the chips fall where they may, and after a good blood letting, we will all be better for it. Hopefully the DOJ and IPRA target the few bad apples and we move on. In the interim, do good police work and let all the cameras and microphones work in your favor. If you continue to be stupid, then you deserve what you get. Parking tickets and signed complaints is all I will do until the cloud over our heads is gone.
I hope they strip the 'Women Copper' who stripped Halley in the alley of Laflin and Bishop 2 years ago. There's one who definitely needs to be let go, and she is not a first time offender. Wake up guys, if they rid the department of these rogue Cops, we won't be as hated, and will be better able to do our job.
IPRA replaced OPS , OPS an alternative to IAD
Good investigators will clear 99% of Bull Sh-- beefs made by criminals against coppers
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Does anyone know about THIS? Retirees are receiving letters from the city stating that their past CR#'s are being re-opened and re-investigated. Two of my recently retired friends have received these letters. You cant even escape this departments bullshit even after you retire!
4/19/2016 02:52:00 AM
Retired got 1 also, called city law department they are looking into everyone's past complaint history and yes if they find something you could be called back in,pathetic but true!
4/19/2016 02:52:00 AM
I say bring it on.I'll use the same defense the stuttering prick did-"I don't remember". I will not respond to any letters from the city. if an investigator is sent out,i'll decline to answer any questions with out counsel present and have them removed from my property. pretty simple.
Is old Matt Rodriguez still alive? Maybe he could be-investigated for going on 'free vacations' with a mob guy.
This won't stop until officers start suing ipra and the city. Do it. How the hell can any officer expect to get a fair investigation with the agenda being pushed. Officers are already guilty. Sue sue sue. It's the only thing they understand. Band where the fuck is the fop? Stop posting cute snips on the blog and do something. You sell out mother fuckers
Fop! Organize something!!
class for Sgt and Lt announced at the end of May.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Thank you to all the over achievers on this job that took shortcuts in police work over the years. The time has come for you to pay the piper. Let the chips fall where they may, and after a good blood letting, we will all be better for it. Hopefully the DOJ and IPRA target the few bad apples and we move on. In the interim, do good police work and let all the cameras and microphones work in your favor. If you continue to be stupid, then you deserve what you get. Parking tickets and signed complaints is all I will do until the cloud over our heads is gone.
4/19/2016 04:35:00 PM
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This is one of the smartest responses that I have read on the blog. The DOJ is here for a reason. If the DOJ takes action, then that means that they have something to go on.
Nobody is going after merit hacks. It's like the Catholic church's' response to pedophile priests, just move them around to keep them out of sight.
Suntimes headline should read "Escalante cuts deal with clout heavy cop so not piss off brown paperbag alderman". Is the DOJ going to put anywhere in their final report that the shit starts at the top?
"Lead from the front?" "At the end of the day? Why is Rahm using McCarthy's lines?
Rahm doesn't care about you. He cares more about the stupid 1.2 billion,eye-sore, Lucas museum that will bankrupt the city. He only want's you to be proactive, so he can be re-elected.
4/19/2016 02:52:00 AM
Retired got 1 also, called city law department they are looking into everyone's past complaint history and yes if they find something you could be called back in,pathetic but true!
4/19/2016 06:27:00 PM
Move out of state. Don't come back if called. Let them come and get you and pay the expenses associated with getting you back. This place is bullshit even after you put it in the rear view mirror.
Some people can't see the forest beyond the trees. The current Ipra Chief Administrator is a former Federal prosecutor. She was hired by the mayor to cover his ass. She went on Listening tour with "Community Leaders". While on this listening tour she was told of cases of suspected brutality case. She went back and looked into cases. She also went back and reviewed cases where arrestees were injured, cases where resisting were dismissed, cases where Officers are being sued. Farley, the Chief Administrator is looking at anyone with numerous amount of CR's for Excessive Force. What many of you don't understand is that any action taken by Ipra has to go thru the Superintendent Office. The Superintendent HAS TO APPROVE ANY ACTION INCLUDING STRIPPING. If Ipra recommend firing a Officer the Superintendent HAS to approve any recommendations of dismissal. For everyone information there is an ATTORNEY who works at Ipra. However he is overwhelmed by Foir requests. Rumor has it that the Corporation Council is calling many of the moves of Ipra
"Retired got 1 also, called city law department they are looking into everyone's past complaint history and yes if they find something you could be called back in,pathetic but true!
4/19/2016 06:27:00 PM"
Hope your 2nd call was to the FOP. If they can provide an attorney to Burge,they sure as hell better provide one to you. Sounds like a witch hunt that's opening up an enormous can of worms
IPRA can strip you without even giving you an allegation.
They just say it's "confidential." Cops have sat at callback for a year without being served any paperwork.
There is zero due process and the FOP will just tell you "hey,you're getting paid. It will be ok."
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And lose as much as $40,000 in VRI?
Money I put in my Deferred Comp because we will get fucked on OUR pension?
FUCK THEM !!!
I hope they strip the 'Women Copper' who stripped Halley in the alley of Laflin and Bishop 2 years ago. There's one who definitely needs to be let go, and she is not a first time offender. Wake up guys, if they rid the department of these rogue Cops, we won't be as hated, and will be better able to do our job
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guess you didnt hear about the depositions in that case... pretty much the "plaintiffs" in that case admitted they were full of B.S. and they guy on the video with the gang guys admitted he knew he was being filmed because he saw the people upstairs recording so he pretty much put on a show... as they all do when they find out there is somebody recording. They were asking for 15 million. They got 30K total... I understand you probably hate this person your talking about but try a little harder... this case is not a good example to support your hatred since it was pretty much bunk. go back to being miserable and acting like a little gossiping high school girl.. punk!
As for retired police getting letter that cases may be reopened, who can they do you?
Order you in? Yeah, right.
If you don't cooperate discipline you?
Im retired if they call me in Im not going At least not for free
I've been stripped, oh yeah and fired but I have 26 yrs and they couldn't touch my pension which I will start collecting sept, this year good riddance.
Why doesn't anybody look into the pressure to write ISR's from the bosses in the area saturation teams? You're forcing officers to fill quotas and making them stop citizens that possibly shouldn't be stopped. With all this going on in this department, what kind of boss does this?
I have a neighbor who is stripped and has been in callback for quite some time and they are so short handed there that they were trying to hire retired coppers but that didn't do well so rhe reason they stripped so many was to man the phones there
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Do you listen to yourself, how dumb that sounds
They should hire retired Po s. Get all the overpaid secretaries out of the offices and on the street. I remember when civilians handed out radios and took reports. I heard officers bragging about how they won't be in a squad car too long, soon behind a desk.
Ladies and gentlemen if you have the years to retire open that door and leave don't wait !!!!!!
Wake up guys, if they rid the department of these rogue Cops, we won't be as hated, and will be better able to do our job.
They do get rid of rogue coppers, rogue coppers dont last long to begin with, but the thugs will always hate us you stupid fuck. The race baiters and the politicians crank this shit up time and time again every few years and the working class blacks or what we Chicago have left of them suffer the greatest. Thugs cheat steal deal and kill will always hate you for not buying their bullshit or for not being intimidated by them. Obliviously that's not the case with you.
But you sir are a low grade moron not as many people hate us as you think, and nobody hates you more than a wealthy liberal white because the have no concept of what goes on in cities across America. Including our Mayor.
Now go out and hand flowers to the people that imprison the poor in their homes and destroy all hopes and dreams - the urban terrorist/the street thug.
PLEASE Remember snitches get stitches
Re: Retirement An old timer told me long ago, "Its not how much you collect its how long you collect it! Do you want $5000 a month for ten years or do you want 4500 a month for twenty years? Food for thought. Don't wait too long. Do the math and if you can, RUN!
Are they going after the cases where the fix was in and the city gave a payout without you having your day in court?
The city than turns around and bitches about how much you people are costing the poor taxpayers with your bad behavior.
What a fucked up crooked system!
I want a Lucas museum.
""Why doesn't anybody look into the pressure to write ISR's from the bosses in the area saturation teams? You're forcing officers to fill quotas and making them stop citizens that possibly shouldn't be stopped. With all this going on in this department, what kind of boss does this? ""
The kind that will flush you down the toilet the first time you get any heat on an ISR and then get the next moron in line to start writing them so he can continue his ascent into a higher paying salary/pension.
In the meantime he/she will belittle and fuck with you mutts who refuse to make shit up and write them, in order to help THEIR career. Dump you off car's, make you work with the watch asshole, be a nasty prick, bounce back reports, yadda, yadda, yadda. We all know the petty tortures.
To the retired guys getting these letters that is the oldest FBI trick to get you to talk about someone who is still working. They tell you that you are going to lose your pension and end up wearing a pills bury sack around town. Did they get Jon Burge's pension? Hell no and he was convicted and sent to jail and he is still getting his pension. Don't let this ex feral fuck up Fairley spread any Fary tales. Stay strong. If they call you in tell them to go fuck themselves. If you get a subpoena get a lawyer and get fedhiemerz ( the 5th). Don't be a chump. IPRA is a has been operation.
Maybe someone can publish one of these letters so we can all see the circus letter!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Wake up guys, if they rid the department of these rogue Cops, we won't be as hated, and will be better able to do our job.
They do get rid of rogue coppers, rogue coppers dont last long to begin with, but the thugs will always hate us you stupid fuck. The race baiters and the politicians crank this shit up time and time again every few years and the working class blacks or what we Chicago have left of them suffer the greatest. Thugs cheat steal deal and kill will always hate you for not buying their bullshit or for not being intimidated by them. Obliviously that's not the case with you.
But you sir are a low grade moron not as many people hate us as you think, and nobody hates you more than a wealthy liberal white because the have no concept of what goes on in cities across America. Including our Mayor.
Now go out and hand flowers to the people that imprison the poor in their homes and destroy all hopes and dreams - the urban terrorist/the street thug.
PLEASE Remember snitches get stitches
4/20/2016 04:08:00 AM
Rogue cops! yea ok troll, you watch way to much television! You want to talk but yet no substance! Any "rogue cops" are made by the gold stars "go get em" club, look at SOS scandal, the cops were great got many guns, the thugs feared them when they pulled up thugs literally ran like the cowards they are. The bosses got away with everything, as real coppers know police work is dirty, not nice dealing with so much scum everyday inethical ways sometimes are needed to stem the tide! Do you really believe the feds do everything "by the book?" That type of police work is dead nad gone, now the bodies and the blood flows thanks to the political elected mandates from the president all the way down!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
As for retired police getting letter that cases may be reopened, who can they do you?
Order you in? Yeah, right.
If you don't cooperate discipline you?
4/20/2016 12:37:00 AM
Anonymous 29 and a day said...
Im retired if they call me in Im not going At least not for free
4/20/2016 12:50:00 AM
If it's a general letter, put it in a drawer and be glad you escaped the job and have your life back (and a pension).
If it's specific, about a particular allegation that could be bumped up to criminal charges, consult an attorney. Not your brother-in-law, the tax attorney, but a criminal attorney. (Chances are, the statute of limitations will negate most of these cases anyway.)
Anonymous said...
As a victim of this unjust attack, I have yet to be served with any allegations, I was told the DJ is not involved but who knows if they're going to bring them in
4/19/2016 01:36:00 AM
Officer Bill of Rights V.I.O.L.A.T.I.O.N! ...but then again, what F.L.O.P. gonna do for you?
Eff THAT! Even if it IS confidential they have to give you a CR# at the very least.
I told them to keep their ssl score down.
I support the FOP and Rank and File CPD!!!
Stay strong, FOP!!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Re: Retirement An old timer told me long ago, "Its not how much you collect its how long you collect it! Do you want $5000 a month for ten years or do you want 4500 a month for twenty years? Food for thought. Don't wait too long. Do the math and if you can, RUN!
4/20/2016 07:16:00 AM
Evidently you didn't do the math or know If you leave at 4500 and live for 20 years, then if you only live 10 years at 5000 that means your pension would have gone up only 500 a month in 10 years. Even with the pay raises we are getting your pension would be a lot more than 500 a month
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I want a Lucas museum.
4/20/2016 07:45:00 AM
Would you settle for a moth-eaten Ewok stuffed toy and a Darth Vader ringtone?
" In the meantime he/she will belittle and fuck with you mutts who refuse to make shit up and write them, in order to help THEIR career. Dump you off car's, make you work with the watch asshole, be a nasty prick, bounce back reports, yadda, yadda, yadda. We all know the petty tortures.
4/20/2016 09:57:00 AM "
= R.E.T.A.L.I.A.T.I.O.N & Hostile work environment, document, document, document - straight to EEOC, bypass the F.L.O.P.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Ladies and gentlemen if you have the years to retire open that door and leave don't wait !!!!!!
Check your numbers carefully. Pension is not usually enough to live on. House paid off? Kids out of school? Health care costs taken into consideration? Will you need a job? Willing to start with two weeks vacation? Willing to work for less than your present salary? Healthy amount in 401k? One million will throw off about $40,000 a year if you want it to last. Did you build up any social security? Lots to think about. Once you resign there is no turning back. Do what is best for you and your family, not some blowhard on this blog. I left early and regret it. Would never consider leaving before 29 and a day. Good luck to you.
If I.A.D. is calling in a retired PO on an old CR#, you can bet that it has become a criminal investigation. You should always consult a real lawyer, not your buddy who handled the closing on your house, but someone who knows the ins and outs of the criminal justice system. Take him/her to any Q&A scheduled with I.A.D. including the presentation of charges and allegations so they can be on top of things. In the long run it will be well worth the cost. Doubtful that the FOP will provide you a lawyer since you are no longer a dues paying member. If the lawyer advises you to give a statement which I don't believe you are legally obligated to do, it could serve to get you out from under though it may turn you into a material witness against some of your fellow officers. Its complicated and not something you should ever do alone.
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Anonymous Anonymous said...
Ladies and gentlemen if you have the years to retire open that door and leave don't wait !!!!!!
Check your numbers carefully. Pension is not usually enough to live on. House paid off? Kids out of school? Health care costs taken into consideration? Will you need a job? Willing to start with two weeks vacation? Willing to work for less than your present salary? Healthy amount in 401k? One million will throw off about $40,000 a year if you want it to last. Did you build up any social security? Lots to think about. Once you resign there is no turning back. Do what is best for you and your family, not some blowhard on this blog. I left early and regret it. Would never consider leaving before 29 and a day. Good luck to you.
4/20/2016 10:47:00 PM
You are right I did 29 and a day,am 55 got healthcare 3 kids out of house,paid off house,paid off cars,no credit card bills that is the only way to retire! Oh forgot put as much as you can into deferred comp I am in fixed can take out $1,425.00 month before tax and not harm principle if needed! You will never find another job that pays you this well, i picked up part-time 2 days a week $26.00 and hour, retirement is great as long as you make sure your ready!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Ladies and gentlemen if you have the years to retire open that door and leave don't wait !!!!!!
Check your numbers carefully. Pension is not usually enough to live on. House paid off? Kids out of school? Health care costs taken into consideration? Will you need a job? Willing to start with two weeks vacation? Willing to work for less than your present salary? Healthy amount in 401k? One million will throw off about $40,000 a year if you want it to last. Did you build up any social security? Lots to think about. Once you resign there is no turning back. Do what is best for you and your family, not some blowhard on this blog. I left early and regret it. Would never consider leaving before 29 and a day. Good luck to you.
4/20/2016 10:47:00 PM
You are right I did 29 and a day,am 55 got healthcare 3 kids out of house,paid off house,paid off cars,no credit card bills that is the only way to retire! Oh forgot put as much as you can into deferred comp I am in fixed can take out $1,425.00 month before tax and not harm principle if needed! You will never find another job that pays you this well, i picked up part-time 2 days a week $26.00 and hour, retirement is great as long as you make sure your ready!
4/21/2016 03:14:00 PM
Congratulations. Both of you like myself were both fortunate and also had great planning. Unfortunately others on the job are not as fortunate or in a position to do this. Some thru no fault of their own. Sick kids, sick parents. Children later in life, kids still in school divorce many reason. Also with expenses One million in deferred easy figure to throw around hard goal to attain for most if no impossible
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Ladies and gentlemen if you have the years to retire open that door and leave don't wait !!!!!!
Check your numbers carefully. Pension is not usually enough to live on. House paid off? Kids out of school? Health care costs taken into consideration? Will you need a job? Willing to start with two weeks vacation? Willing to work for less than your present salary? Healthy amount in 401k? One million will throw off about $40,000 a year if you want it to last. Did you build up any social security? Lots to think about. Once you resign there is no turning back. Do what is best for you and your family, not some blowhard on this blog. I left early and regret it. Would never consider leaving before 29 and a day. Good luck to you.
4/20/2016 10:47:00 PM
You are right I did 29 and a day,am 55 got healthcare 3 kids out of house,paid off house,paid off cars,no credit card bills that is the only way to retire! Oh forgot put as much as you can into deferred comp I am in fixed can take out $1,425.00 month before tax and not harm principle if needed! You will never find another job that pays you this well, i picked up part-time 2 days a week $26.00 and hour, retirement is great as long as you make sure your ready!
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The problem is so many don't plan. I am currently at 311 due to a back injury and I can't believe how many coppers I talk to down there who are stripped and pending termination and I ask them what their plan "B" is if they get fired. They all look at me like I am speaking Arabic to them. None of them have a plan for tomorrow if they lose this job. None are retraining for another career knowing they very well might lose their jobs at any time.
I hate to say this about my colleagues on CPD but most cops are morons who can't plan past this Friday (forget about next Friday). Even a guy who is 29 years OTJ, getting ready to go in a year. I ask him what his plan is. Same response "What plan? LOL, I don't plan past next month." He was dead serious.
I own a business and met a recently retired guy from O'Hare/CPD unit. Same thing. "What's your plan now that you are in retirement?" Couldn't believe it. You guessed it. "Never really gave it much thought now that you ask." I was surprised but wasn't. Living day by day.
I've been planning since I got on the job and saw two coppers who got stripped and sweated being fired. I knew that day on I had to have a plan B. I started a business that is now flourishing. I have 3 FT guys working for me and I am swamped. I am going at 20 years and age 49. I have 2 beach houses paid for and am leaving the country next year for greener pastures. Never made promotion but I am currently making more than the Superintendent of Police with my side gig and being a phone bitch at 311. I don't have to answer daily to an alderman or a deputy either.
Don't listen to these two clowns with the 29 and a day crap. Just start planning now.
I have two words for you guys waiting for the 29 and day: Richard Francis.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-jury-deliberates-in-2008-cop-killing-of-richard-francis-20131030-story.html
27 years on. Age 60. Shot and killed for what? Two more years? 29 and a day? Run the calculator on the pension website. It's an extra $1,300/month. I literally make that in two days working my side gig. Most of you are saying "Go fuck yourself." or "No way possible." Well it is possible. You just have to plan for it but instead you guys all sign up for CTA and do ISRs to work OT. I am not saying I haven't done that but guess what ladies? I had plan and don't do VRI or CTA or DUIs anymore.
Point is don't get hung up on that 29 and a day crap. Plan for the future. You all have no idea how much money there is out there to be made. Think outside your box and plan. Do something outside LEO. Richard was going to working at best 3 more years. Chasing that 29 and day...
4/20/2016 12:50:00 AM
If it's a general letter, put it in a drawer and be glad you escaped the job and have your life back (and a pension).
If it's specific, about a particular allegation that could be bumped up to criminal charges, consult an attorney. Not your brother-in-law, the tax attorney, but a criminal attorney. (Chances are, the statute of limitations will negate most of these cases anyway.)
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There is no statute of limitations for Official Misconduct, a felony. So I wouldn't focus on fhat so much, but do get counsel.
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