Not Our Job
- With about 200 people dying of heroin overdoses each year in Chicago, the police are preparing to launch a radical new strategy to help addicts caught in narcotics investigations on the West Side.
As usual, officers will arrest people caught buying small amounts of heroin and take them to the police station. But officers will now give them the option of entering a drug-treatment program — and not being charged with a crime.
Users with violent criminal backgrounds and those who are “active gang members” will be excluded, police say.
“This is a one-time get-out-of-jail-free card,” said Ruth Coffman, executive director of the University of Chicago Health Lab, which will evaluate the program.
Two large agencies, Thresholds and the Heartland Alliance, are expected to provide the treatment.
Anthony Riccio, chief of the police department’s organized crime bureau, said he anticipates the program will begin this month in the Harrison, Austin and Ogden police districts.
And once again, the police are being drafted as social workers, a role that they are not trained for nor are they equipped to accomplish.
These offers, should they be made, shouldn't be taking place at a police facility. The offers should be made at court, after the arrestee has been fingerprinted, photographed and processed, and the Court has determined that their criminal record is worthy of this "second chance." Because we would bet money that a number of these "second chances" will turn into third, fourth and more chances.
These offers, should they be made, shouldn't be taking place at a police facility. The offers should be made at court, after the arrestee has been fingerprinted, photographed and processed, and the Court has determined that their criminal record is worthy of this "second chance." Because we would bet money that a number of these "second chances" will turn into third, fourth and more chances.
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posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
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Threshold's....now there's a total quality, top-notch organization.
Out here in California it is called "diversion." It is given at court but the problem is the judges give it over and over. I have seen addicts with other criminal charges go into diversion 6-7 times and all of the other charges just disappear. Robbery,burglary,receiving stolen property all magically disappear under diversion. Diversion is not a live in program as the libs think that would be too much like jail. So your new program will simply increase street robberies and eventually murder
I have always described my self as a "heavily armed social worker."
Always able to show compassion, find lost children, rescue those endangered, assist any citizen, dry tears but kill anyone that needed killing at the blink of an eye.
Anything.
To keep The Police tied in knots...
"Restorative Justice"
is the Progressive's wet-dream
of some kind of vengeance against
The Police.
Front line Policemen SHOULD NOT
be involved in this!
It's an intentional muddying of the waters.
Every other occupation gets to stay
in their lane.
So who came up with this plan? Where you find evidence of a felony and you don't prosecute? Depending on person's history.
What do we need a legislature for? The City and the police just write and rewrite the laws.
HEY i thought I could not make deal with criminals!
many of my so called rangers used to ask for a gun turn in to forget about petty crimes. But now I can send hypes to counseling and drop charges?
Fetalfe·tal
ˈ denoting a posture characteristic of a fetus, with the back curved forward and the limbs folded in front of the body.
"he retired to his bed, curled in the fetal position"
Another good reason to just stay fetal. Just answer yours calls and give the good citizens of Chicago there reports.
Stops are down and crime goes up. Now being a social worker will result in fewer police making narcotic arrests and narcotic activity will increase. Pretty soon the police will be tasked with so many social justice programs that the police will be known as community activists officers.
Thresholds buys units in high rise condos , like 5100 marine , and uses them to house people struggling with addiction and other issues . The other residents are the victims of this social experiment .
What statutory right allows police departments not to charge these offenders with the appropriate felony? Fuck this. I'm hoping for a thousand hotshots this year!
Honestly, when the war on drugs was enacted by our honorable president Richard M. Nixon.... This was kind of the way the war on drug was intended to be... 2 out 3 dollars was supposed to go toward rehabilitating the addict rant her that locking up the addict. If you look at the European model as opposed to the American model... You see the European model has results and is far cheaper on the tax payer. In other words, I would say go with the model that gets results and does not up my taxes.
At this point, who the fuck cares? Let the rich kids from the far West suburbs come down. Of course, we let'em go, don't we. Next thing is we will have to care Narcon for the dope fiends.
Or how about these drug schoolers could be used for some John doe action on a few search warrants.
What a compassionate idea.
This is better than what is currently working
Not going to work , heroin addicts are the worst with relapsing, especially if their environment is littered with the same. They rarely kick the habit with intense in-house 30 or 90 day program, let alone an outpatient program. Bust-outs don't become model citizens no matter how many programs the taxpayers endow to them.
What a waste of money and police officer's time!
They had a Thresholds on 47th St. There were a lot of scary looking people walking around. They weren't as scary as the regular 'Ville residents though.
Ok are we all clear about this-the city doesn't want you making narcotics arrests. Attention unit 189 and tact teams. Nobody cares about narcotics.
Sounds like the perfect class action lawsuit - discriminating on gang affiliation and criminal history. The arresting officer and city will be sued and once again we will be giving the savages another huge payout because they were discriminated against by the racist police. Only a judge has the authority to offer rehab. Officers should not be making that call. This is a bad idea for our officers. Who thought this clusterfuck up--I strongly recommend offocers arrest the offenders in possession of narcotics. Let the courts deal with them.
Just wait for the clipboards you'll be required to carry with you.
Follow the money & you will have your answer... Because I'm sure a "connected" person will not gain from this...
Who's making arrests anymore? Whats a narcotic arrest?
Who is connected in these agencies with those running the department/schitty of Chicago?
Ruth's "Health lab" personnel are surely smarter than the average bear. How about they sign up for the job? When they are in a class, ready to graduate, a new unit could be formed. Coffman could be the exempt rank commander, or Czar, depending on how far the job has sunk. Call it MedsWest. It would be a great pickup for all the rangers of the Medical Section. Call out pay, take home car - what could be better?
Add a new hat for us to wear,salesmen for some money making program for load up out patient clinics that don't work anyway.Just pimp'n for people running the program that hate the police but will gladly make money off them. Let the dopers be dopers. Shoot up get high and create havoc.Don't arrest them. Back to hug a thug. Why bother. All we will be doing is paper work for some social aid project,tying us up for couple of hours and getting nothing in return, STAY FETAL
" If you look at the European model as opposed to the American model... You see the European model has results and is far cheaper on the tax payer. In other words, I would say go with the model that gets results and does not up my taxes."
You gotta stop siding with Eurotrash. Watch some Zombie Movies to get a hint as to what's happening in Europe.
Two questions that I have with this is where does the law allow for the police to 'sentence' PCS offenders? And who is going to pay for the program?
so....why even bother making the arrest......bring back the "hug-a-thug" program....catch them will a small amount of dope, give them a hug, and send them on their way...community policing at its finest...come to think of it, maybe the police cold direct traffic around the dope spots, you know, to keep the crowds moving, no traffic backups....
You take an oath to up hold the LAWS of the land. If some social experiment wants to offer a new program, have them go to Springfield and have the law changed. We are the police and enforce laws not social rehab programs. As a ASA or Judge you let a dope head enter this type of program and they kill some one by any means or injure someone they are exonerated and cant be sued, as a Police Officer the media will hound you, the department will say you made a mistake and did not follow proper police procedures and look to fire you and the injured party will sue the city and the Police Officer personally. Great idea
But I bet you the City still wants you to take the Junkies cars that belong to their moms!
Is that in the new order to have compassion of parents of junkies?
Did the weed diversion program not work.
Kim Fox will save the day and let everyone IBOND out of county.
There was a TV documentary about this process that was created in Seattle or Portland or somewhere out in the Northwest. Social workers would actually ride with the cops and intervene with the heroin addicts at arrest. Another silly west coast program that sucks. The way to stop criminality is to make crime a crime and let the police start crimefighting again. I can't think of any police related silly social experiment that has ever worked. Did our drugs courts of the 80s and 90s?
Anonymous said...
This is better than what is currently working
4/09/2016 03:55:00 AM
The only program that has shown to have any real effect on society is what the Swiss are doing. The addicts line up each morning at a clinic and get a shot of heroin. They have found that the addicts are able to function in society, many hold jobs, and crime went down, way down. Writing an addict a traffic ticket in the station with an appointment for a clinic is laughable and some progressive must have dreamed this one up. I agree with the comment, sent the addict to a drug court, get them into treatment by as much force as you can muster. Otherwise, they are not going to show up. The lure of the drug is just too strong.
I also heard that a neighborhood court is being established in Lawndale, staffed with neighborhood people. Many minor arrests will go there instead of the regular courts. Should be interesting. Another part of " restorative justice" backed by Chuy garcia.
Locking up one baggers does nothing to stop crime. Unless they are a hardcore gang member, inventory the dope, write a report, and send them on their way. The reverse stings always make me shake my head. And yes, I am the police, and have worked the west side with open air drug markets.
We are having another outbreak of mass hysteria. They have taken illegal street drugs and doctor-prescribed drugs, bustout addicts and genuinely sick people, put them all into the martini shaker, and poured out one huge mess. Can't do anything about the 75 drug-smuggling tunnels we've found extending under our southern border so far, but the drugstore can mess with the old guy with his heating pad who needs a mild pain reliever sometimes.
Wasn't long ago that the pendulum swung the other way. "Easier access, simpler prescription procedures, patients have a right to necessary pain medication," and those 1-through-10 "pain charts" that went up in every doc's office and ER. Now, if you can hardly get out of bed, and have to rest four times while trying to do the dishes, they'll push "creative visualization," yoga, all the New Age armamentarium as an "alternative" to a simple pill that actually does something for you. Concentrating on pictures of cute kittens never did cut it.
>sigh<
Something will go wrong in some situation and the Police Officer will take the fall. Not the job of the Police.
old retired guy
They've been doing this for years, instead of doing probable cause hearing their offer and drug treatment and if they fail they get a conviction nothing new same story
Locking up heroin/crack addicts reduces
theft
burglary
robbery
prostitution
spreading of disease
child abuse
domestic abuse
battery
aggravated battery
Treating them successfully is great. How often does that happen? Relapse has to be greater than 90%. Where is the cost savings?
When someone's obsession is getting high, how do you break that when they don't willingly want to be in treatment? They are bringing the rest of the people down.
Will county has a diversion program run by the court system this is very effective. The poleece shouldn't be involved in the process. Can you imagine the newly minted Lieutenants running this?
If no one gets arrested than the program goes nowhere. Stay fetal, my friends.
Sure it will work if you give it enough time and MONEY(key word) just like the War on Poverty celebrated 50th anniversary and we see every day how spending billions of dollars made a difference. If it's based on the West Coast model they go to the clinic for their Methadone daily. Money to be made by the clinics that administer the programs and the agency- shocker alert probably University of Chicago that will monitor the program
How long before a gang banger sues because they were denied access to this program "that could turn his life around"?
No court ot...whats the point??
Every other occupation gets to stay
in their lane.
4/09/2016 12:55:00 AM
That's not true.
Ok, first, we are and have always been social workers. At the very least if your think we are only suppose to write tickets and arrest people, I feel sorry for you, the job was never about just that. Webster definition of a Social Worker: the work done by someone who works for a government or private organization that helps people who have financial or family problems. That's what we do and have always done. We take abused women to shelters. We take curfew violators. We arrest people. We write tickets for people driving recklessly. These are all interventions that help solve the problems of the community. You weren't told when you came through he academy that your job was only writing tickets, and locking up people. Everyone who came on the job since 1992 has had CAPS training and other programs and the ones that came on before had different programs of the same name. And every cop does things we consider to be good deeds all the time, but are really social work. Visiting a little girl who has cancer, playing basketball with kids, coaching baseball teams. I am so sick of this, that's not our job shit. At the very basic level YOUR JOB IS WHAT YOUR EMPLOYER SAYS IT IS SO LONG AS IT DOES NOT VIOLATE THE CONTRACT. You may not like it but that is life int he real world.
The problem with this is that there are not enough rehab vacillates to handle this influx of people going to rehab. So in the mean time, while they are waiting months to get in, they just go back on the street? Where is funding coming from? Why aren't we looking at these deaths as crimes and trying to lock up the dealers and charge them with second degree murder?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What statutory right allows police departments not to charge these offenders with the appropriate felony? Fuck this. I'm hoping for a thousand hotshots this year!
4/09/2016 01:25:00 AM
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exactly. You can't force them to come into the station when you know damn well they are not under arrest.
I agree with SCC -- This program should be handled by the Courts, not the police.
Plus, you guys and gals are already doing too much -- what should rightfully be called -- 'social work'. Like playing daddy when little Johnny doesn't want to go to school so you have to go to his house and 'scold him', but be careful, not too harshly or mama will file a Police Brutality complaint.
All felonies should qualify.....why just heroin?
What a compassionate idea.
4/09/2016 03:40:00 AM
I am sure their future victims, we've just exponentially increased them, will be thrilled. Then again I am a cut your losses kind of guy.
I am all out of compassion these days. It's all we talk about, compassion for these poor OFFENDERS! I have used up all my compassion on the victims I have dealt with. Come up with a plan that takes the victims into account and I will get behind it. Build a work farm out in the sticks. Make them work for their existence and teach them a few skills. forgive and forget doesn't work and it never will. It is the nature of that beast.
Don't tell me when it involves my family I will change my mind, because I won't. I am involved in my kids lives and I have taught them all about personal responsibility. I will not enable them.
Police are not social workers? Have you been to a public library lately? Once an oasis for readers, a place to use a computer or to research a paper, we've become insane asylums where the addicted, the perverted and the dangerous hang out, driving away taxpayers who support libraries. All of the comfortable, upholstered furniture is gone since it's been peed or pooped in and all that's left is what can be easily cleaned. I totally agree that anyone arrested for buying illegal drugs should be charged yet we're so PC lately. The addict has an illness, needs help, and the homeless creep taking a crap in front of the DVD display needs understanding, maybe a hug, and I say stuff and nonsense.
Dopers and their lobbyists tell you we've lost the "War of Drugs," but why does no one talk about the failure of the rehab state? Diversion and rehab programs have been around almost as long, yet no one mentions that drug use is increasing even as the state spends billions on programs designed to curb addiction.
First, let's be honest and admit that just about all drugs are de facto legal in Crook Co. Of the cases that even make it to arrest, the "personal use" possession cases are tossed by judges who refuse to enforce the law. Either that, or the suspects are shunted into one of the dozens of existing official or unofficial "drug courts" that sideline both users and, often, dealers out of the broken legal system into a useless quasi-judicial social welfare system where police, lawyers and judges treats addicts and dealers as "clients" to be rehabbed as they continue to roam the streets committing crime.
It’s also important to note that many of the rehab laws apply not only to drug users (many of whom are also drug dealers) , but to criminals arrested for just about any non-violent crime. Career burglar? Arrest again? No problem. Just tell the judge you have a drug problem, show up for the meetings and it all goes away. Repeat as often as necessary.
Here's a partial list of the continually expanding number of diversion and rehab laws that have been on books for decades in Illinois:
TASC (20 ILCS 301/40-5)
410 supervision for controlled substance offenses (720 ILCS 570/410)
10 supervision for cannabis offenses (720 ILCS 550/10)
70 supervision for meth offenses (720 ILCS 646/70)
Drug Court Treatment Act (730 ILCS 166)
Juvenile Drug Court Treatment Act (705 ILCS 410)
In addition to all the diversion programs above, Crook Co has an additional half dozen local “drug courts” where addicts and dealers are asked to gather a few times a and sing “Kumbaya” to make their arrests go away. The only thing these “courts” divert are crime statistics – arrests along with potential convictions disappear since criminal charges are never filed. No cases, no problems. Everyone walks away happy. Criminals go right back to their lives of crime the street, and judges, prosecutors and defense attorneys can all go home at 2 pm. The papers can also report that there is no drug problem in Crook.
These costly programs are ineffective and create a giant state funded industry for consultants, contractors, medical personnel and anyone in the “helping professions” (which will now include the police). And it will only get worse because none of these programs work.
Note to dopers: If you want the freedom, accept the responsibility that comes along with it. If you shoot the dope, take the consequences.
A lot of these heroin addicts are young kids. They have parents who, after the kid is dead, blame the kid"s friends instead of looking in the mirror and blaming themselves.
Let's see...CPD will soon Rescue cats from trees... handle marriage counseling in the ghetto... help the kids not to drink too much lean and dip that weed... show more sensitivity to transgendered issues. (( Ok..ok Im overboard here... These people basically are working the system and love there drugs. Making CPD drug counselors is not going to accomplish anything. How is that murder rate again?
Simple, just don't arrest them. Saves everybody money except the dope fiend. Stop them, recover said narcotics, release them on scene, inventory found narcotics, stay down on report, enjoy homemade lunch in station. Everyone is a winner!
So, is the "arrest" expunged? Is the arrest documented with fingerprints and photos? Who makes the decision and when? So you bring the kid in and while he is deciding on what to decide, he goes into a withdrawal; does he decide after the hospital stay? Is he guarded while recovering? And if to save time, you deny him the choice, because he is out of control and unable to decide; is that a denial of the New Due Process? Who makes the decision to accept or deny the acceptance or rejection by the "Client"? This is going to be lawsuits waiting to explode in the faces of anyone involved. Baby"G"
I worked in a methodone clinic for 2 years when I was new on the job, the rehabilitation rate was 2% according to staff, the trillions of tax dollars pumped into this fiasco is disgusting but it makes the libtards and socialists feel good about themselves, never mind our money, truly brain dead Americans...
All the more reason to stay fetal my friends. Why stop him in the first place? Nothing good can happen here. If he resists and gets hurt its your fault God forbid kill him! Your bring him in just too let him go! You got nothing my friends except a beef from him and a lawsuit against you from the ACLU.
This is all of the commie Toni Preckwinkels and Lil Tommy Darts plan to keep the black offenders out of jail. Preckwinkels criminal son has a tatto on his arm "Black Power". I'll bet mama put it there.
Maybe we can give diversions and the overdose drug narcan to people. PO's, counselor, and doctor, WTF is that? Some of the Mayberry departments do this now. Their bosses don't think POs have enough police work to do, or don't know what police work is, so they think this is it. Wait it's coming, if they get their way we will be taking on additional liability soon. Some idiot aldercreatures have already suggested it. City lawyers are reviewing now.
These U of C professors live in lala land, detached from reality liberals putting it off on the police
if you want to have a successful program, open proper facilities and staff with proper people trained in this area
cops dont need to be multitasking will all of the other things going on, example lots of paperwork and the aclu breathing down everyone's back
Screw you Rauner/Emanuel for shutting needed facilities and drug care programs down, let these drug users come to your offices and you help them
Prekwinkle's next proposal is have the police giv all apprehended robbery arrestees 20.00 and take it from our pension fund because the police will have a easier time arresting them next time.
The ACLU is suing to stop Chicagoans from fishing in Lake Michigan because it is entrapment to throw bait and hook into waters and if you catch one you throw it back because you didn't know
More bullshit. I'll tell you what, I'll do them one better. I wont ever make a dope pinch again.
Follow the money...just another money laundering operation operated by the Dem machine. The addicts are money. The more addicts brought in by the police and sent for treatment, the more money from the State of Illinois and the city goes the Threshold...the more money brought in to Threshold, the more money they contribute to the politiciams
Mark Ishaug, M.A. Chief Executive Officer THRESHOLDS
Ishaug and his soulmate, Micah Krohn, reside in La Grange, Illinois. As a couple, they actively support an array of organizations dedicated to improving the welfare of humans and animals, including World Bicycle Relief, the Old Town School of Folk Music, the Humane Society, and the Shambhala Meditation Center of Chicago. They are also longtime political supporters of local and congressional champions of LGBT rights, including Alderman Tom Tunney; state Representatives Sara Feigenholtz, Greg Harris, and Kelly Cassidy; U.S. Senator Dick Durbin; and U.S. Representatives Jan Schakowsky and Mike Quigley. In 1996, Ishaug was among the openly gay delegates to the Democratic National Convention in Chicago.
Throughout his career, Ishaug has been recognized for his dedication and many contributions to building healthier communities. His awards include AIDS Legal Council of Chicago Advocate of the Year, Southside Help Center Champion, and the ACLU of Illinois John Hammell Award.
Evelyn Diaz President Heartland Alliance
Before being named president in September of 2015, Ms. Diaz led the City of Chicago’s Department of Family and Support Services as Commissioner, under Rahm Emanuel. She was appointed Deputy Chief of Staff by former Mayor Richard M. Daley, serving as the Mayor’s liaison to the City’s human capital departments and overseeing initiatives related to poverty, jobs, and economic security. She was later appointed chief executive officer of a quasi-governmental organization, the Chicago Workforce Investment Council, which was charged with addressing labor market shortages in key industries through a data-driven collective impact model.
Previously, Ms. Diaz was Associate Director of the Chicago Jobs Council, where she oversaw financial, administrative, policy, and program operations and coordinated Opportunity Chicago, a $23 million initiative to assist thousands of public housing residents gain employment.
So now the Chicago PD has been recruited for this modern day "cash for addicts" scheme.
Every Criminal is going to say,I gots a drug problem gimme rehab,No jail for you.
Maybe the U.S. should secure the southern border. Lots of Chapo’s product makes it way to the U.S. destroying our children. Keep the front door open, keeps the product flowing and the money rolling to our friends south of the border.
These types of “social experiments” were tried in Washington State. Twenty thousand homeless under the age of 25 addicted to methamphetamine and heroin take to the streets of Seattle each day hustling for money to get their fix. A social justice approach to treat addicts resulted in a lost generation who overdose and die at in the gutters at an alarming rate.
Who are the suppliers you ask. Mexican cartel affiliated street gangs cross to and from the border with impunity supply the poison and demand the greenbacks for export south of the border.
The only winners to this approach are : A.) the drug cartel$ B.) those administering the drug treatment program$ C.) those evaluating the effectiveness of these program$
Investigative stop reports, non-prosecution for drug offenders, no jail time for convictions, catch and release protocols in the jails, finding of not guilty on the whims of judges and persecution of police for proactive police work are a recipe for a societal disaster.
Its by design people. Anarchy is what the left wants to disrupt a once powerful capitalist country. Social disorder, riots, chaos, anarchy and fear must reach a level where the Constitution will be suspended and then re-written. A total breakdown of the system is needed to fundamental transformation of America. A fundamental transformation. Where did I hear that before?
I am a retired Sergeant and was called last week regarding becoming a transport person. we will respond to a district station and take these people to the facility for treatment, we will be part time police officers for Chicago, with full police powers only while on duty. The pay rate is 30.00 per hour and will operate on a 24 hour basis operating out of the 10th district.
The paragraph doesn't say when the addiction is given the offer for help. I never assumed it was given right there on the street.
Tactical superstars everywhere just got hot flashes at this news.
'Users with violent criminal backgrounds and those who are “active gang members” will be excluded, police say.'
Oh yeah? What are the parameters? What constitutes "violent"? And how exactly do the powers that be plan on verifying who is an "active" gang member? These cocksuckers know how to game every part of every system, so they'll have this one licked in no time flat.
I'll guarantee you right now that whatever directive comes out to accompany this harebrained scheme will be poorly constructed, vague and/or ambiguous.
I'll also guarantee you that the ACLU and CCSA Mizz Foxx get involved in short order when it's shown that "people of color" are disproportionately represented on the 'INELIGIBLE' side of the equation.
So, just what is an officer to do when their very livelihood - AKA their court date - is threatened? Well, as it reads here...
"As usual, officers will arrest people caught buying small amounts of heroin and take them to the police station. But officers will now give them the option of entering a drug-treatment program — and not being charged with a crime."
Every hype (or potential 'non-violent/non-active' gang member) you jackasses still drinking the KoolAid lock up with small baggies of white powder from this date forward should be charged with possession of COCAINE pending testing and analysis by the ISP Lab. Hell, who are you to make a determination as to exactly what that white powder is? I really don't see Chad from Naperville interrupting the ASA at his bond hearing with "but I was buying dope, NOT cocaine"! Let them make the amendment at the preliminary hearing - at least you'll have gotten one date out of it.
If you're dumb enough to still be out there playing police, at least be smart enough to keep them from taking money out of your pocket.
Time to legalize all that shit.
Generate revenue from taxes and thin the herd, a win-win situation.
So I go to get my coffee,and notice Sunday's Sun-times cover, again the anti-police rhetoric paper talking about police "spying" on protestors, maybe our "intelligence" unit should be disbanded, it is really getting so bad you cannot even plan to look into thugs planning unrest and unleashing mayhem on the few taxpaying innocent citizens left in this once great city! Guess with the possible attacks planned such as the FBI warning about attacks on our power grid we are not to develop intelligence to possibly stem or stop attacks!
http://freebeacon.com/issues/fbi-warns-cyber-threat-electric-grid/
they should lock up the druggies like the law states and make sure they stay in prison. I know someone who is addicted to heroin…. tried to help him out by giving him a place to stay, food to eat a ride to the methadone clinic every morning…. i know i was extremely stupid for trying to help the guy out but when he wasn't using the shit he was a really nice guy. what does he do, decides to throw it all away by getting found passed out in my driveway in his friends car with the engine running in the middle of summer. found out he overdosed and almost died. he now is in lake county jail awaiting trial that could give him 3-7 years. like friends have said on this site and in person… the person you cannot ever help is a heroin addict. now i have no sympathy for drug addicts or drunks. no one pours the crap into their body so it is their choice to use it let them face the consequences up to and including prison time or a fatal overdose.
Don't try already give them at second chance when they give them drug court?
Fair points, but the old model of arresting them wasn't working. Given all the success other cities out West and in Europe are having with different approaches, I'm impressed Chicago is trying a new approach. Even if it doesn't succeed, hats off to whoever decided to give this a try.
Fuck these hypes. Hope they all od and die!
There's already something like this in place, isn't there?? How soon the lawmakers forget. It's 410 probation.... "That was easy!"
Another great social program that is doomed to fail. Who is paying for this flop? Middles America they pay for everything.
When you put criminals back into the mix they will return to being criminals. That is a hard Chicago fact. Look at the true rate of recidivism.
The University of Chicago is a fine book smart institution not a street smart one.
What ever happened to night narcotics court and drug school? I believe the drug school was for cannabis arrestees only and never did shitfor the smokers or the city. It was just a break that the city gave our to their fellow Democrates.
That's insane. Police playing judge and social worker. How about making a law and not play with criminal proceedures.
I'd gladly volunteer at the clinics during my leisure time If I can handout free slaps
OT:Blogger Retired Gus said... Retired ? I thought you were the sergeant in safety
school patrol?
Anywho; this whole controversialality best be left to da witch doctor oh eee ooh ah ah ding dang ala lala bing bang
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"...the War on Poverty celebrated 50th anniversary and we see every day how spending billions of dollars made a difference."
4/09/2016 08:51:00 AM
Sure did. If you are hooked up with the right revs, "social workers," etc. it's a $4,000/month "supervoucher" luxury high-rise apartment for you (you can shoot people right there in the deluxe workout room, no need to go downstairs), or even a 5-bedroom 4-bath townhouse if you have enough illegitimate children.
Gotta go. Party bus is outside!
"I also heard that a neighborhood court is being established in Lawndale, staffed with neighborhood people. Many minor arrests will go there instead of the regular courts. Should be interesting. Another part of " restorative justice" backed by Chuy Garcia."
4/09/2016 07:57:00 AM
Ah! A foo-boo court. For us, by us.
What minority contractor, what rev, is going to get the government grant to operate this play-show? "Diversion" into all sorts of "social programs" and "counseling" -- more grant money!
"Preckwinkle's criminal son has a tattoo on his arm "Black Power". I'll bet mama put it there."
4/09/2016 11:32:00 AM
She sure showed up with the best lawyers in town after he beat up a homeless guy. Wonder what the disposition entailed -- probably "anger management."
I am a retired Sergeant and was called last week regarding becoming a transport person. we will respond to a district station and take these people to the facility for treatment, we will be part time police officers for Chicago, with full police powers only while on duty. The pay rate is 30.00 per hour and will operate on a 24 hour basis operating out of the 10th district.
4/09/2016 02:18:00 PM
Jesus, what the hell are you still doing here in this shithole town? You are RETIRED- at a sergeant's pay nonetheless, and you want to continue being a cog in this shit show machine? If you only knew how many people would trade positions with you only to be a thousand miles away from this joke of a system, never to look back again! There is life beyond this job- please find it while you still can!
Members by Dept Rules & Regulations are prohibited from doing what is described ( I have probable cause to arrest you but we can handle this another way... wink, wink) Anyone tell the goofs from University of Chicago that before CPD signed up
This is all coming from a guy (Rico) who said on NYE he believes in his heart the mayor is a good guy and supports us. And don't listen to what the mayor says on tv cause it's not true. What a goof ball! Please leave BOC!!!! You have no clue!!!! Go back to the D Unit and rewrite some orders there you goof and stop fucking up BOC!
Anonymous said...
Honestly, when the war on drugs was enacted by our honorable president Richard M. Nixon.... This was kind of the way the war on drug was intended to be... 2 out 3 dollars was supposed to go toward rehabilitating the addict rant her that locking up the addict. If you look at the European model as opposed to the American model... You see the European model has results and is far cheaper on the tax payer. In other words, I would say go with the model that gets results and does not up my taxes.
4/09/2016 02:03:00 AM
Yep,that European model will work.
After the "refugees" are finished destroying Europe and enact Sharia Law,possessing heroin will be subject to mandatory incarceration and maybe even the death penalty.
Maybe we can give diversions and the overdose drug narcan to people. PO's, counselor, and doctor, WTF is that? Some of the Mayberry departments do this now. Their bosses don't think POs have enough police work to do, or don't know what police work is, so they think this is it. Wait it's coming, if they get their way we will be taking on additional liability soon. Some idiot aldercreatures have already suggested it. City lawyers are reviewing now.
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I work in a "Mayberry" department. I agree it is a liability we don't need. I sat thru the hour training class to administer the Narcan. And if you screw up doing it? Nope. Wait for the Mayberry ambulance.
Plus the Narcan has to be carried and stored in a temperature controlled environment Yeah. Squad cars are perfect for that.....
Now they want us to be social workers? Word is they want us to be medics also, they want us to have the heroin overdose medicine in squad cars and available. FOP time to stop this nonsense already. Do more with less.
FAIL. The junkie only wants their next fix. Getting a get out of jail free pass gets him to walk into the front door of the "rehab" and the walk out the back door, saying "goodbye suckers".... Another money pit dedicated to the non tax paying bustout.
I am sure the ACLU will come out and say this is a violation of the drug users rights and place the blame and a lawsuit on CPD. Why not have them all meet at Rahm's, Dart's, Preckwinkles' or any of our many alleged Reverends homes and they can ask them to make the choice there? This is a set up for a law suit. A law enforcement official cannot make a medical diagnosis like addiction.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I am a retired Sergeant and was called last week regarding becoming a transport person. we will respond to a district station and take these people to the facility for treatment, we will be part time police officers for Chicago, with full police powers only while on duty. The pay rate is 30.00 per hour and will operate on a 24 hour basis operating out of the 10th district.
4/09/2016 02:18:00 PM
Cool. How do I get a phone call like that? I'm a retired sergeant.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Simple, just don't arrest them. Saves everybody money except the dope fiend. Stop them, recover said narcotics, release them on scene, inventory found narcotics, stay down on report, enjoy homemade lunch in station. Everyone is a winner!
4/09/2016 10:59:00 AM
Nope.
Body cameras.
No choice.
"Follow the money...just another money laundering operation operated by the Dem machine. The addicts are money. The more addicts brought in by the police and sent for treatment, the more money from the State of Illinois and the city goes the Threshold...the more money brought in to Threshold, the more money they contribute to the politicians"
4/09/2016 01:20:00 PM
Sure. "Treatment" is one growing scam. I once dealt with a "mental health/community service" organization; I later found out that the "coordinator's" qualifications were that he had been a gym teacher.
$80,000 BMWs parked outside some of these places -- and they sure don't belong to the "clients."
Similar examples --
Have heard nursing home operators gushing about how "the real money is in alcoholics," now that they pack dopers and mentals and parolees in with the old folks, to rob, rape, and terrify them in their declining years...one place I know has its own bottle gang outside the door on warm nights, you'd be afraid to try and walk in there...
A lot of privately-owned but HUD-funded senior housing is not at all what it looks like from the pictures in the fancy pamphlets. Some places are run entirely on savage gossip from the lobby-hanging cliques that form along racial lines, all reporting to a favorites-playing, vindictive manager. Get in tight enough and you can be a "floor captain."
A friend in one of these places reports that someone bled out and died (some kind of gastrointestinal hemorrhage) in the bathroom above another tenant she knows. The blood soaked the downstairs lady's bathroom ceiling, yet they are refusing to do anything about it. They only found the deceased after some days had passed and someone complained about "an odor."
...but it has nice flowers outside, and lots of government money coming in.
Years back, some liberal local minister helped the Blackstone Rangers get "community development grants." These proved to be the seed money they needed to get a good dope operation going, and the rest is history.
All in all, we've become overrun with aphids (here illustrated), sticking in their beaks and gorging on "grants" and "subsidies" until they're about ready to burst.
http://tinyurl.com/zf7w8uf
This is bad.
Legalize Dope ? and who will pay for the zombies life time of addiction, related illness etc, how many mainline junkies you know with a 40 hour gig that they can show up for perform a days work and leave at the end of the day with their co workers saying he/she does a good job, between breaks of sitting in the shithouse stall on a nod or scratching and stealing cause they went thru a paychecks worth of dope in 3 days and are looking for an S-7 or I phone, tablet etc to boost n pawn.
Just to inform you of a truth. We have straight friends in Denver who recently told us that after legalization of pot 100,000 people have migrated to the state and after living there crime free for 35 years they have now been burglarized.
"Legalize Dope ? and who will pay for the zombies life time of addiction, related illness etc, how many mainline junkies you know with a 40 hour gig that they can show up for perform a days work..."
4/10/2016 03:24:00 PM
Not many -- not when you walk up to the front door of a place and there's a sign on it saying "THIS IS A DRUG-FREE WORKPLACE. WE DRUG-TEST ALL APPLICANTS."
Little problem there, huh?
"We have straight friends in Denver who recently told us that after legalization of pot 100,000 people have migrated to the state and after living there crime free for 35 years they have now been burglarized."
Saw a story on TV about a Colorado manufacturer who moved his business out of the state after legalization because the reject rate on his products suddenly went through the roof and it was killing him. I get the feeling he won't be the last.
"After the "refugees" are finished destroying Europe and enact Sharia Law,possessing heroin will be subject to mandatory incarceration and maybe even the death penalty."
4/10/2016 08:49:00 AM
Maybe? Daesh is taking TV sets out of people's houses. Not allowed. No music allowed. No drinking. No smoking. No libraries. No museums. Pants must be a certain length. Men must have beards. Women must be completely covered. Homosexuals are thrown off ten-story buildings. Steal a can of food? Get your hands chopped off -- while Daesh parties like crazy and steals everything in sight and takes eight-year-old "brides."
...and while this goes on...
The tiny pill fueling Syria’s war and turning fighters into superhuman soldiers
November 19, 2015
"A tiny, highly addictive pill produced in Syria and widely available across the Middle East, its illegal sale funnels hundreds of millions of dollars back into the war-torn country's black-market economy each year, likely giving militias access to new arms, fighters and the ability to keep the conflict boiling, according to the Guardian.
"A powerful amphetamine tablet based on the original synthetic drug known as "fenethylline," Captagon quickly produces a euphoric intensity in users, allowing Syria's fighters to stay up for days, killing with a numb, reckless abandon."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/11/19/the-tiny-pill-fueling-syrias-war-and-turning-fighters-into-super-human-soldiers/
"Guess with the possible attacks planned such as the FBI warning about attacks on our power grid we are not to develop intelligence to possibly stem or stop attacks!"
http://freebeacon.com/issues/fbi-warns-cyber-threat-electric-grid/
4/09/2016 05:46:00 PM
Understand Obama is trying to cut $9 million from NYC's anti-terrorism budget...
In the meantime...
Superconductor to Strengthen Chicago Grid Against Attack
July 22, 2014
"Commonwealth Edison is teaming with an engineering company to boost the reliability of Chicago’s electric grid and protect it against terrorism by installing three miles of superconductor cable beneath the city’s Loop district.
"Funded in part by a $60 million grant from the Department of Homeland Security, the project is expected to be the first commercial-scale deployment of American Superconductor’s Resilient Electric Grid system (REG)."
http://www.rtoinsider.com/superconductor-chicago-grid/
"I work in a "Mayberry" department. I agree it is a liability we don't need. I sat thru the hour training class to administer the Narcan. And if you screw up doing it? Nope. Wait for the Mayberry ambulance."
4/10/2016 08:51:00 AM
I am aware that some places have "Good Samaritan" provisions in the law, exempting those who try to help someone in an emergency from any liability. This should definitely be looked at, make sure it applies to first responders in this situation.
Gets complicated. If the person has overdosed on an orally-taken opioid, or on fentanyl skin patches (some chew them, or make a tea with them) or on fentanyl "lollipops" --
http://www.opioids.com/fentanyl/perc-a-pop.html
-- or if needle and paraphernalia have been removed from the scene by someone else prior to calling in, or the subject themselves has been removed from the party, so to speak, and just dumped somewhere by their "friends," or they have smoked the narcotic, the cause of the person's distress may not be so immediately apparent as it is when they are found "unresponsive" with a lighter, spoon, foil or baggie, belt around their arm, and a syringe hanging out. They don't always make it that simple to determine.
"Plus the Narcan has to be carried and stored in a temperature controlled environment Yeah. Squad cars are perfect for that..."
Air temperature range -28 F. to +105 F. in Chicago. Stuff should be checked in/out of station by each tour?
New strategy for fighting dope addicts and dope sellers/addicts. The criteria is simple. This program would be administered by the court system. You have 1 month after release to secure gainful employment from a registered business in the state of illinois. This is after you admit your guilt and enter a guilty plea and allocute to your crime.You must work continuously for 6 months a minimum of a forty hour week. Your employment and hours worked must be verified by FICA taxes submitted to the social security administration. You are allowed to work as much overtime as you want but will be required to submit to a weekly hair sample for drug testing. After successful completion of of your 6 month working/ testing you will be put on probation for an additional 6 months where you will have to continue working 40 hours a week and bi-weekly drug testing. After successful completion of this program your drug arrest record for this offense will be expunged. If you fail any portion of this treatment program you will be automatically sentenced to the maximum penalty for this offense without a trial. Go directly to jail even if you have a get out of jail free card. The only people making money would be the drug testing company. This would also serve as a valuable lesson on how people are supposed to live their lives and quite possibly cure some of their addiction. Anything else is just a waste of taxpayers money. The message here is you are responsible for providing for yourself and your family by working a real job. . It would be the offenders responsibility to provide the Social Security records to the judge to secure a successful expungement of the drug arrest and completion of the program that would remain on the offenders record. Sheriff Joe
Just some qualifications on how I came up with this new "work" to get your drug arrest expunged. 30 years on the streets of Chicago experiencing first hand all of the failed programs initiated by the nitwits of this town who call themselves leaders. The only thing these geniuses are qualified to do is waste and steal taxpayers money and drive up the crime rate to rival a third world country. They have supported and embraced the third world country that they have created and expected to thrive in our civilized society. That's it. The dark ages are not a desired retro aspiration, but they are reality in the third world country created here. Lucifer, satan and our politicians are having fun with the daily video game grand theft auto that is played daily on the streets of our city. One big dope smoking video playing party where all the players don't go home and the killers don't go to jail. Game authors and credits: nobama, pelosi, clinton, emmanuel, prickwinkle, daley ect, ect, ect. Sheriff Joe.
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