Rahm Sure Can Pick 'em
This appeared a few days ago, concerning the Department of Aviation:
- The chief of Chicago’s Aviation Police, target of an overwhelming no-confidence vote by his own officers, announced his abrupt departure Friday, telling those officers that moving forward, they should “always be positive, and not dwell on the negative."
After repeated inquiries, the Emanuel administration insisted Chief Richard Edgeworth had not resigned, but rather had chosen to return to his previous post in the Chicago Fire Department.
First up, what's a firefighter doing running a police department?
Second, this is the goof who told the DOA Coppers to "run and hide" in the event of a terrorist attack and come out when it was safe to assist responding CPD, directing traffic or parking our cars or something (we kid! we kid!)
In any event, you'd think that a uniformed police force at a major metropolitan airport might actually be, you know, armed. It's not like a shitload of bombs just went off in a European airport or anything. Or that they've been going off in airports around the world for decades.
These aren't rent-a-cops. They're fully trained, annually qualified cops. They've even got an arsenal of fully functional weapons that would put many SWAT teams to shame...but they can't carry them. There isn't a reason in the world they shouldn't be patrolling the airport armed, except for politics, and the lives of citizens hang in the balance.
Second, this is the goof who told the DOA Coppers to "run and hide" in the event of a terrorist attack and come out when it was safe to assist responding CPD, directing traffic or parking our cars or something (we kid! we kid!)
In any event, you'd think that a uniformed police force at a major metropolitan airport might actually be, you know, armed. It's not like a shitload of bombs just went off in a European airport or anything. Or that they've been going off in airports around the world for decades.
These aren't rent-a-cops. They're fully trained, annually qualified cops. They've even got an arsenal of fully functional weapons that would put many SWAT teams to shame...but they can't carry them. There isn't a reason in the world they shouldn't be patrolling the airport armed, except for politics, and the lives of citizens hang in the balance.
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They have no drug testing and some we're fired from CPD.
How about the fact that 30% of their security force will immediately be fired for being over 63? Or how about the fact that they aren't drug tested? Or how about the fact that they have no policies? Or how about the fact that they never got field training? Or how about the fact that they have no investigative unit to investigate a shooting? Or how about the fact that they are overpaid security guards? Better idea. Get rid of them and hire more CPD to take their useless political spots. Sometimes things are not what they seem.
That department has been fighting for decades to carry weapons and always getting turned down. Especially now a days post 9-11 they shold be ared to the teeth. It's just so political. ALLOW DOA TO CARRY!
The rest of the civilized world continues to laugh at Chicago...how this intolerable condition has been allowed to exist for as long as it has at O'Hare with the Aviation police just confounds all logic...you would think that the Dept. of Homeland Security would have stepped in and straightened this unacceptable condition out by now, since it's very probable that the Aviation Police receive at least some federal funding to exist.
Yeah, I feel REAL safe when I go to O'Hare to catch a flight.
Unarmed cops? Might as well have Good Humor men walking around handing out ice cream. Although, that wouldn't work because NOTHING is free at O'Hare. Nothing is even "reasonable".
It's all a CLOUT-ridden ripoff. $4.75 for a bottle of water? I can get a case of 24 for almost HALF that.
Was in Detroit airport in February. Not only do they have armed cops, they have Segways to get around on.
You brag about the cops at O'Hare - wasn't that a "cush job" only the clouted ones could get?
Doesn't matter. Real cops would feel very vulnerable without having guns. I'm sorry but I don't feel too good about the "safety" at O'Hare.
Quick question, how many armed to the teeth cops would it take to prevent someone from entering a crowded airport with a suitcase bomb?
>>>Alvis Holley, 28, was convicted in September of two counts of attempted murder of a police officer. Cook Count Judge Nicholas Ford sentenced him Monday. <<<
Good job by all the Good Guys.
Hope the Cops can soon fully recover..
Now...
Be sure to vote for Judge Nicholas Ford...
Find out who was the in court ASA and get him/her to run for Cook County States Attorney.
Daley is gone, so why doesn't someone push for them to carry guns. Daley was the one who made them not carry.
Do not worry, your concerns about arming the police will become readily apparent AFTER the terrorist attack.
It isn't like they already tried at LAX .
The airport is unprotected. CPD should have a carbine operator overtime program there.
The reason that they cannot carry firearms goes back to the decision to hire political hacks who could not pass a background investigation, who failed psychological tests and could not pass a drug screen.
Some of them ae still around and the rest will suffer.
Again---serious security deficiencies owed directly to the political and clout systems. Sad.
Unarmed cops mind you. Kind of useless.
The reason Aviation Police cant carry weapons falls on us as well. Our threatened lawsuits when the airports hired these Aviation officers over CPD officers.
Let's not forget that either. So we again are to blame just as much as anyone
I'm at a suburban department, and went to the academy with 10 or 12 of these goofs. They couldn't pass a background at a reputable place, and one of them didn't even speak English. Hire more CPD and get these goofs moving along.
"There isn't a reason in the world they shouldn't be patrolling the airport armed, except for politics, and the lives of citizens hang in the balance."
Damn straight. Personally, I'd feel a whole lot safer if they were in uniform, armed with automatic weapons, and walking the halls of the airport. The Israelis know how to do it right.
But nooooo. In Chicago, the wet panty liberals rule the day.
Hey Rahm. GFY.
Call the next case. Not a cop.
Where is all the investigative "reporters" in this city?
Quick question, how many armed to the teeth cops would it take to prevent someone from entering a crowded airport with a suitcase bomb?
4/12/2016 12:50:00 AM
Go fuck yourself. Never let what you can't do stand in the way of what you can do.
Prior to the soon to arrive civil war, please publish the names and addresses (with pictures or descriptions) of left wing ass-holes. I wish to avoid being mistaken for one.
To those bashing the Dept .of Aviation Police.....have you seen a lot of the CPD coppers we have now??? Do you think most of those CPD coppers that work at the airport are there to be the "Real Police"?, c'mon the entire CPD knows it's an easy gig! Also, not all of the DoA police are political hacks. Quit bashing other agencies.....it makes CPD look like assholes.. Now go get those ISR's!!
Many of you are NAIVE'! when was the last time you seen a test to be hired for airport police?
You have regular old Chicago police doing the actual work there anyways.
Cmon a fireman as Chief? that one slipped by most of us. But what can I say we had an exempt in charge of garbage and potholes!
"Run and hide."
That's my fuckin' game plan every single day out here.
Just put the car in reverse and make a report when the dust settles.
Vote these liberal communists out of office and maybe I will do something.
Until then, I AM DONE.
A pre-hire condition requires background checks, drug screening as well as psychological profiling. All of the above put in place before 9/11. In addition to the 2400 plus flights and 185,000 passengers plus that go through O'Hare daily, an accidental discharge of a firearm would probably hit something. For the uninformed, the airport is regulated by the TSA and Dept of Homeland Security that recognizes the Chicago Police Department as the law enforcement body at O'Hare in a documented submitted to the the federal government that gives the city permission to operate the airport. Should that document be modified to give that responsibility to the Dept of Aviation Police, the Chicago Police units at O'Hare and Midway would certainly be reduced or eliminated. This is especially true given the manpower shortages at CPD.
And at that point, the Aviation police would require all the administrative functions such as lockups, transports, UCR reporting, and all the other things that are required to cycle an arrestee or property through the criminal justice system. And a lot of the "political hacks" 4/12/2016 04:04;00 AM refers to are retired Chicago Police officers who were given consideration for their knowledge and experience in making the airport safer. There hasn't been much pissing and moaning from them regarding this job. Would that be the same if the officers and supervisors from the CPD Airport police units returned to districts on the West and South sides?
Rahm didn't pick Edgeworth, he came on board when former Daley chief of staff Ray Orozco (former CFD Chief)picked him. This was shortly after Maurer was set up with the bullshit "assault" case against him.
ah, but don't speed on the service roads at O'Hare. Sure as shit, Bernadette Fife will pull you over and issue you a ticket...... "See this Badge?"
I agree with writers that these airport officers should be armed. Daley turned this unit into his patronage army making the clouted ones with no experience supervisors and letting the retired CPD work as patrol. But, the fact is, having armed police officers at an airport will not stop a terrorist attack. What happened in Belgium, and at other airports in the world is explosives in a suitcase that is detonated long before it reaches the security barriers. You can't stop that no matter what you do at the airport. Only good intelligence can try to head it off in the making. If I have to guess, the city does not trust most of these airport police officers in their judgement and they don't want these officers shooting into crowds at the airport.
It is so stupid. Chicago has the only unarmed airport police department in the United States, probably the world. I've always been told DOA are kept unarmed to give the crusty CPD political hacks a spot to stay. It's embarrassing when police officers from around the U.S. (and world) come to Midway or O'Hare and see some CPD dinosaur walking around at the airport still carrying a revolver and wearing some dirty blue vest carrier.
I just came back from a trip to Europe. That bastion of leftist politics has uniformed officers and military personnel fully armed with automatic weapons (long guns) at airports, train stations, major tourist attractions and even colleges/universities. I did not hear anyone complain about the armed personnel on scene. Law abiding citizens were aware that the armed personnel were there for their protection.
Even French and Belgian police are armed. Why is it not well well publicized that Chicago International Airport Police are armed with ballpoint pens?
You've never met many of these people have you? And it's painfully obvious you never worked the airports.
As stated before, these people are the ones that can't get on a municipal police department for all of various reasons. The only way they were able to get on DOA is because zero scrutiny exists in the hiring practices of DOA and anyone with the most base connections or a coupe bucks can get this job.
Again, most DOA officers are either retired CPD and have no intention of working any longer, that's around 5% to 8%, the rest are psych or polygraph failures from departments that have even the most modest of oversight into hiring practices and can't hide these people without being caught.
Training....doesn't mean shit. You can train anyone who can hear and see, what they're capable of DOING with it is another issue completely.
Liken these people to that of Cook County Sheriff (not Sheriff's Police). Make sense now?
Look for Schmitz or Roti to return as Chief of the airport police. And they will be armed
Im retiring soon so I just dont give a shit. I'll say this tho, it isnt just DOA thats driven by clout putting everyone in those airports at risk.
He was appointed to punish and destroy the morale of the department after Chief Mauher was fired for asking "where's the money going?"
And yes, they have some officers over 63, but CPD also has had officers over 63 in the past.
The original department, some 30 years ago, was political. Right now, the hiring is more legit than CPD, lots of vets. Don't forget, CPD is being sued to turning down vets and coppers kids.
Also, these bosses they put there have lost millions of dollars in grants due to incompetence.
The city is gambling with public safety. O hare is the most critical location in Chicago though you would never know it by the cities actual practices. Since little actually happens there manpower has been cut to the bone. Those that are left are spread thin and seldom visible. Go to an European airport or even another American airport. You will frequently see an armed officer by the security check point. In Europe young officers walk around in pairs with their assault rifles. Unarmed perimeter security? Most ghetto liquor stores are more secure then the airport. The political leaders claim they have a layered security plan there. I have some layered swamp land to sell too.
I remember when Daley told the Coast Guard that he didn't want the machine guns displayed and visible on their Safe Boats. The federal govt told him to pound sand in his ass.
I worked for Andy Frain doing what is now the TSA's job at O'hare in the 70's. There were armed Chicago Police at every security checkpoint. Sure, it was mostly a retirement village, but having a guy with 30 years experience and ones who actually watched the crowd, made me as an 18 year old feel a little better.
Why are policemen advocating for two separate Chicago police departments. Actually, is that possible? Maybe that's why they are a security. Getting paid 80000
Half of them would not know which end of the gun to point. Ask yourself this question... IF they could be hired by any other "real" Police Department, why are they at the airport? Last I checked, CPD was begging people to take the job.
These are politic hacks, retired CPD too old to be the police and most of the rest defective in some way. Sure there are a few qualified guys waiting to get hired elsewhere but as I said... if they are REALLY so qualified, take the CPD test!
Im not carbine qualified myself but I think we dont have many who are. At least on days none of the ones assigned to cars, with the carbine racks, are. They might as well be paper weights at the airports.
There's so much money funneled through the Airports budget that the CPD-AVPD never sees.
There's so many airport Commissioners, Asst. Commissioners, Top level Managers and huge staffs that are all political hacks.
Security manpower is questionable and very much ineffectual, in both departments.
The few gifted that get to go there are hapless bunch and the bidders are way over their prime.
Implementing one-day employment intitiatives are not the answer either. It doesn't work in the ghetto and it won't work at an airport.
If they abandoned the entire security system and left it to TSA/DHS, how much better would it be?
There's a lot of miscommunication between CPD, AVPD, CFD, FBI, ATF and TSA/DHS when there are events.
Coordination is a disaster...and when I'm speaking of a suspicious event, it's A TRASH CAN FIRE.
This is not new. This is how it's always been. The supervision at all levels and agencies is dismal.
The Airports need one Central command security agency, not seven or more being run by politicians golf buddies.
Off topic:
http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/city-council-aldermen-daley-spent-pension-money/Content?oid=13115134
Department of Aviation Police are nothing more than anther political patronage arm of the Mayor of Chicago. This city and this mayor care nothing about public safety in the neighborhoods. Hell we didn't even have a SWAT team until about 1998 and every other SWAT officer from around the United States could not believe officers were training to be on the first SWAT team in 1998.This city doesn't give a rats ass about public safety. However, you would think that, as the boss of a city, you would at least protect your biggest asset and money producers, the airports, one of which is the busiest in the United States. Its only a matter of time before O'Hare is targeted because it has the worst security of any United States airport. The Department of Avaiation Police should be eliminated and should be turned into an overtime imitative for all carbine qualified Chicago Police Officers. That would be a start to protecting O'Hare and Midway. This city and its mindless democrats are a joke and laughing stock for the rest of the country. When you cater to the criminals and malign those charged with keeping your citizens safe you know you are living under socialist democrats who should be jailed for treason and graft. Oh, more thing, when you sympathize with criminal activity and regard it as the norm, crime rates will go up and you will need more police to maintain public safety not less police officers. The fact that you Mr Mayor, have done exactly this, means you are the enemy of every taxpaying, law abiding citizen in this city.
When you have a lieutenant second in charge at O'Hare who is in his late 70's and very shaky, doa has these as leaders no wonder no guns! Arm them all they already are certified, put CPD back on the streets to help bolster diminishing numbers, this is ridiculous police driving vehicles with police markings,wearing uniforms that say "police" but no weapons! But then again not naming the idiot CPD LT at O'Hare who tried to have a DOA copper arrested as he had an empty holster on his belt and this boss had the doa coppers car searched for a weapon on airport property. Come to find out this copper just got off from working as a part-time suburban copper where he carries his weapon,a shotgun,an M-4 on duty but yet no gun allowed in either airport!
The DOA patrol the exterior and the unsecured sides of the airports but no weapon,are they the "blue canaries!?"
I don't understand why they are even there? Have you seen how much they are paid? Crazy. Back in the day they knew what it was. A political spot to take care of someone. Arsenal? They don't have a Arsenal. They are glorified security guards.
to 12:19 am....You know what Asswipe.....I'd put my son, who's an Iraqi vet, USMC, up against you any time of day, along with the other vets working at APD. It's the chain of command that needs to go from there. Totally worthless as Supervisors carried over from the other regimes. My son should have been on CPD 4 yrs ago wearing my old star, BUT, with Tracey Ladner in charge of the hiring, told him 2 wks before his apt date, that he was DISQUALIFIED. Reason being???...White male, USMC veteran, and oh yeah, His FATHER, ( me )was on the job for thirty years...
Sorry SCC, I disagree with you on this one. Too many political hacks and goofs on the APD. I worked in a position to observe them closely over a three year period of time. There were some former CPD who were good people, but they were far outnumbered by the political nitwits.
The CPD was far superior in all aspects of the job. It was great to meet al the CPD veterans and new recruits when they came to the training academy.
There are many on APD that I wouldn't want to see with a pea shooter.
Quick question, how many armed to the teeth cops would it take to prevent someone from entering a crowded airport with a suitcase bomb?
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It wouldn't prevent one from entering, but it would only take one police officer with a gun to shoot and kill said person with the bomb. What would the DOA Police do, hit him with their batons? Go fuck yourself.
Additionally, I went to the academy with a class of DOA Police. They were all ex-military. All of them except for 2 (out of a class of 11) left to go to other departments (CPD, CFD, suburbs, federal, etc.), the 2 that couldn't leave were in their 50's. They said the reason wasn't the pay or the job itself, it was the fact that they couldn't carry guns while being the police
Please believe that when...not if...O Hare is attacked by terrorist THEN these officers will be allowed to be armed in the airport. This mutt who left is clout heavy as a ton of whale sh*t. Clout trumps (my guy) safety in Chicago. Go to Europe and they have cops roaming all over their airports carrying assault weapons. And this was even before Brussels.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The airport is unprotected. CPD should have a carbine operator overtime program there.
4/12/2016 02:41:00 AM
Let me guess...you're a carbine guy???
Start the process to arm them AFTER they have policies in place. Then drug test everyone. Get rid of the guys who fail it or are past the maximum allowable age. I don't think their max age has to be the same as CPD. Many of the suburban departments have a max of 65.
This is easy to fix - except in Chicago I guess.
Detective Division used to have ID's to enter O'Hare to conduct an investigation. Those were taken away as well. Nothing to see here.....
Nothing like a fully certified police agency being unarmed on-duty, but yet off-duty they are armed. Many DOA police work part-time for other real law enforcement agencies are armed then and also carry rifles and shot-guns even tasers which they have none of that at the airports! What kind of insane goof authorized this stupidity? rahm you say you want a "safe Chicago" the airports are clearly an asset that we need completely protected, the first time an officer is killed by a savage and is unarmed you will be personally responsible, but then again you have decimated the CPD so bad we are down how many officers sir? Do you and the 50cent crew support us?
Terrible terrible idea, 2/3 of the Dept borders on useless or whack jobs.
I don't know to much about the politics going on at O'Hare or Midway, but I could swear that every time I make a flight at either airport I see federal cops armed to the teeth with carbines either walking around or at certain checkpoints. I've ran into many different federal employees (FBI ,ATF, DEA, Marshall's, Etc..) Maybe that's why they don't arm the aviation police. As to the question of why the city has aviation police and Shitcago police there patrolling is beyond me, but rest assured somebody is making a killing in mula into their pockets as usual. Courtesy of us taxpayers as usual. Me I'm getting the fuck out of this city ASAP as soon as I can, God Bless all you guys that protect the real victims of this city from the scum of Shitcago.
What is a firefighter doing running a police department? Firemen have been working other trades jobs forever without a care.
I happened to be at ORD last week at the International Terminal.Suffice to say it was in my opinion very lacking of any semblance of "Police Presence". The unarmed guys and girls looked very sharp uniform wise,and from my observations,were keeping an eye on things,albeit without weapons.The casual observer wouldn't think that they were unarmed(smoke & mirrors).Uniformed CPD officers were too busy reading the sun-times and checking their i-phones sitting at desks.
It's not if,but when.Quit denying the fact.Get off all your collective gold star and city hall asses and make some presence known, however un-PC it is.
For all I know there were 20 battalions behind the wall, but I doubt it.
How many more maniac bombings do you need to see how far in the stone ages the CPD is in regards to major transit hubs.
My 2 cents.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
They have no drug testing and some we're fired from CPD.
4/12/2016 12:13:00 AM
Bullshit on the drug testing comment.
ALL City Employees are subjected to drug testing if they go into a new department from outside of that agency.
I had to piss in a cup and give a hair sample when I went through DOA screening for the APD. I can't comment on the "Some were fired from CPD" part as I am Only that damn guy on a Bike from Finance.
Go from Parking Enforcement to Detention Aide...drug test
Got from Part time position to full time position in the city....Drug test
Suspect behavior or accident on duty....drug test
Nonsensical statement.
Anonymous said...
What is a firefighter doing running a police department? Firemen have been working other trades jobs forever without a care.
4/12/2016 08:02:00 PM
A CFD in charge of a Police Agency on TAD is NOT how you run a Police Department.
Look at the 41st Ward Alderman. Former CPD...went to the CFD.
If you were at least a Sworn Cop at some point in your career...Okay...being in charge of any type of police department 'could' be acceptable (clout and shit not withstanding).
But did Dude have ANY legit Police Experience in his past? And I don't just mean a degree in Criminal Justice or Law Enforcement.
I work CPD at the airport and I worry about the safety of anyone unarmed with POLICE painted on them. Sorry, but their safety is more important to me then anything else.
Anonymous said...
Even French and Belgian police are armed. Why is it not well well publicized that Chicago International Airport Police are armed with ballpoint pens?
4/12/2016 09:09:00 AM
I have traveled all over Europe and I found that most of the security lines are staffed by armed screeners, comparable to our TSA .
Got the perfect people in town for the search committee for the new superintendent of CPD....with that job over.... Charles Ramsey Or Hiram Grau ....one of them would be a perfect for the
Chief of Aviation police.
Who needs guns when you have verbal judo.
Most of the time, when I go through O'hare, the CPD guys are vigilantly reading a newspaper or focused on their smart phones!!
Almost as useless as loyola police. They have guns and no balls or common sense.
You guys saying "they have no background check or drug test" you don't know shit.
APD, Detention Aide and CPD hiring process are identical. The ONLY part that isn't the same is CPD uses a different written, and a Poly, which is a BS science. In fact... One thing APD and Detention aide does that cos doesn't that they should is AN ACTUAL INTERVIEW. Yeah, let's see some of you hacks pass an oral board to get your jobs....probably wouldn't happen.
Been through all three processes. The back ground, psych, psych interview, drug screen, power test....... ALL THE SAME. Written for APD and CPD were from the same company but different test.
Keep talking all your crap. None of you went through it.
Are there idiots on APD? Yeah, just as many as CPD.
The BS statement of "they couldn't pass a test for a real department" .... Again bullshit. It's extremely hard and comparative to hired as the police in Illinois and MANY will do whatever they can to get certified.
APD is the way it is because of the past POLITICAL carp and their bosses... NOT the newer officers getting hired.
CPD 4-6 years ago was DENYING generational officers from being hired.....highly qualified people who have family in the job were TURNED DOWN because of their family..... Some went to APD.
Its all a big political feud between the bosses of the "real police" in CPD and the "fake police" in APD.....
That's a problem and why many suburb guys hate chicago cops....need flash, You aren't the only "real police" in the world.... And many of you with 13+ years in don't do shit anyways.....real rough jobs working the desk or station security.....or let's not forget the hacks assigned to the airports...yeha I feel safe with a guy with 25 years in with a wheel gun older than me.
Get off your bs.
cfd is where the money is....
get paid to watch tv, workout,eat all day, sleep.
its a dream job for cp
In our last contract we voted against doing randoms. If you get in a squad car crash or to get on yes you have to take a drug screen but we dont have to do random ones. We have a certain minority of officers who only work the gates and never drive the squads. I can only guess why they dont want randoms.
""I don't know to much about the politics going on at O'Hare or Midway, but I could swear that every time I make a flight at either airport I see federal cops armed to the teeth with carbines either walking around or at certain checkpoints.) ""
Thats funny, 20 years there and Ive never seen one. Must be my bad eyes. That or your an idiot.
"""the rest are psych or polygraph failures from departments that have even the most modest of oversight into hiring practices and can't hide these people without being caught."""
I remember when Shitcago used the "failed psych test" as the reason not to hire any white males and instead loaded us with minorities. The white guys had to sue to get on, giving up years of seniority. If your going to bad mouth the APD first take a look at the dirty, corrupt outfit "we" work for. Its only fair.
"""real rough jobs working the desk or station security.....or let's not forget the hacks assigned to the airports...yeha I feel safe with a guy with 25 years in with a wheel gun older than me.
Get off your bs."""
Well at least we know not to make traffic stops while unarmed outside of Cook County.
LMAO. Yeah sure you "just happened to be at ORD last week". Maybe what you need is a APD blog to pose as John Q at. Remember your the ones who have to call us not the other way around.
""""I happened to be at ORD last week at the International Terminal.Suffice to say it was in my opinion very lacking of any semblance of "Police Presence". The unarmed guys and girls looked very sharp uniform wise,and from my observations,were keeping an eye on things,albeit without weapons.The casual observer wouldn't think that they were unarmed(smoke & mirrors).Uniformed CPD officers were too busy reading the sun-times and checking their i-phones sitting at desks.
It's not if,but when.Quit denying the fact.Get off all your collective gold star and city hall asses and make some presence known, however un-PC it is.""""
4/13/2016 12:26:00 PM
My comments and observations were echoed by several other posters before me.
I'll leave it at that. In addition,I'm far from just "John Q".
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Anonymous said...
I happened to be at ORD last week at the International Terminal.Suffice to say it was in my opinion very lacking of any semblance of "Police Presence". The unarmed guys and girls looked very sharp uniform wise,and from my observations,were keeping an eye on things,albeit without weapons.The casual observer wouldn't think that they were unarmed(smoke & mirrors).Uniformed CPD officers were too busy reading the sun-times and checking their i-phones sitting at desks.
Oh yeah, like another post stated, you just happened to be there. Glad those fools from the security looked very sharp...hahaha, give it up you dork! You will NEVER be the police!
Oh yeah, like another post stated, you just happened to be there. Glad those fools from the security looked very sharp...hahaha, give it up you dork! You will NEVER be the police!
4/14/2016 07:49:00 PM
ok i'll play your silly game.you just don't get it do you junior.see below for further clarification douche bag.
My comments and observations were echoed by several other posters before me.
I'll leave it at that. In addition,I'm far from just "John Q".
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4/13/2016 06:27:00 PM
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