Rumor I is Addressed
From the comments:
- It's all true. P.O.'s to be replaced by civilians on the desk and other administrative duties in the station. Commanders will be allowed to retain a P.O. secretary and one other P.O. in the office. Audits will be forthcoming and Inspectors will be monitoring administrative personnel in districts to ensure no one is hiding. They've tried this a number of times in the past but this time they're playing for real. I believe one (1) P.O. will be retained for desk duties / watch secretary on each watch. Most of the time it didn't work before is because they couldn't find enough civilians to fill spots like timekeeper, etc. Now they do. It will take almost a year to replace P.O.'s but they're full steam ahead with this one.
We've heard this song and dance before. Let's see how it plays out.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
92 Comments:
Well something is cooking when you got 21 lookup keepers , and 300 civilians training in the academy as we speak
Hahaha! OK, now let's work on CAPS and thin out 35th and Michigan.
Some will remember this. Over 20 years ago 025 had an older PO, and nice guy, who had been the time keeper for years. Then the department decides to replace him with a female civilian from another city department. She screwed everything up, people were shorted time on the books and the time sheets were not up to date. Things got so bad they brought the PO back under the guise of Grand/Central foot post. They had the civilian in one office and the PO hidden in another office correcting all the civilian's work. They even had another PO, who knew how to do the time sheets, assisting. The civillian eventually disappeared and the PO timekeeper reinstated. I wonder what politician sponsored her.
IOD. Medical. Back hurts. Fell in locker room. Medical roll bout to blow up, house mouses ain't ready and don't want to hit street, summers coming boys and girls
For years I have read the comments by police officers who work the beat car to dump allpolice officers who work inside back outside to be replaced by civilians. Be careful what you wish for. There are good and lazy both in and out. Remember the less police officers means the less money being paid into the pension. The civilization of the department has been going on for years. It started in headquarters with sworn jobs being lost to civilians in latent prints, identification, personnel, medical section, evidence, police dispatchers and more. How about the loop foot detail where you had one PO directing traffic. Now they have been replaced by two to three civilians who look like homeless people and have no clue on how to direct traffic. The same at the airports. Next they will replace the ETs and crime lab, other cities have. So enjoy working with the civilians who are political patronage workers who hate you. The goal of this administration is to get rid of as many police officers as possible and replaced with their people.
Tact secretary are also going to be replaced by a civilian personal.
Lots of piss running down the legs of lots of the part time armed secretaries where I work.
The bidded desk spots and watch relief spots are contractual.
Civilians replacing those officers holding those bids would be a clear and serious contract violation that would be grievable and a sure fire losing proposition on the city's part.
The majority of "hidden" inside people in Admin offices etc. in districts are usually made up positions and are not protected by the contract and therefore those made up positions could easily be filled by a few civilians.
I agree with SCC that we've heard this before but there hasn't been any substance behind it.
Anyone worth their salt as an investigator or auditor could find the majority of these "hidden" people without too much of an effort.
Should there be some nervous stomachs and tight sphincters in Admin district offices throughout the city?
I love watching this dumb fuck mayor fall flat on his face time and time again. This department is spiraling out if control and tiny dancer can't do a damn thing about it. This is not only interesting it's comical. Jagball mayor's advisors are screwing him and he's too stupid to recognize when he's getting cornholed.
These dumb ass top level guys are out to keep changes coming, that more you change some shit, the more fucked up it gets.... But, this dumb shit starts right at the academy, straight to the first day a PPO goes on the street. And dumb fucks don't realize this one bit. Shit goes in, shit comes out.
I realize I'm showing my age but I recall when the commanders office was run by 2 P.O.'s.
Now it seems as if a lot of commanders offices are "staffed", and I use that term loosely, with a dozen or more officers.
All of these self important officers have made up titles and little work to do.
They are their own worst enemies.
Well all that means is the rest of us who have been working a early for years, will be pushed aside to a later car to make room for the desk dollies and daddy's. And the late cars to rapids because the desk management won't be working late. Yes I said management, FOP knows and has done nothing about it.
The House Cats and the icky girl cuties will always be warm, dry, and vestless.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
LMBO. Right. Please with all the women working inside? Ain't gonna happen. And if it does how long until the nonsense cats get "downed" everyday? I remember they had some BS car in 022 like 2214A or some crap like that and it was always female DG on third watch who worked that car. I called her out on it one day and I was of course the jagoff for doing so.
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It's not because they couldn't find enough civilians to fill the spots.
It's because they couldn't find enough competent civilians to perform the jobs!
When they civilianized the timekeeper position, most of those they hired for it were so stupid they couldn't add to 10. The Dept. had to bring back the PO's that were in the position to "assist" the civilian timekeepers.
Then there were two people doing the job that one was supposed to do.
The AFSCME union has many many protections for civilian employee's.
That's why you rarely see a civilian fired from the Dept., even tho many of us know many that should be fired.
This time the Revs and the "community" are supplying the civilians as part of the plan to keep an eye on the CPD
The city should retro fit every station to make it safe from attack. I have been in many suburban police stations and it is like a currency exchange. The stations will not be safe with only one police officer behind the desk.
Recipe for disaster. Worse than giving construction workers keys to the courthouses.
Truth
Instead of paying 2 PO's 70K a piece, u can hire 4 civilians to knock out crash reports, hand back inventory, and lost front plates.
I would get rid of all the PO's in traffic court and hire all civilians. WTF. You need a badge and gun to shuffle through movers?
All jobs that you don't need a star or gun could be handled by civilians.
025 Grand/Central
It's about time the house cats be sent outside to work like the rest of us. In 025 on 1st watch we have two miserable house cats. Even working inside and early ducks don't satisfy them. They are B.B. and J.L. B.B. is the worst. She talks shit about everyone and all day working the bond desk or the radio room every little thing sets her off. Little things like the printer does not work or if a citizen comes in asking for a report. If you come in with an arrest she takes your paper work and then when the arresting officers leave the station then B.B. gets all tough and starts making fun of their case report or arrest report and then the miserable J.L. chimes in with his wisdom. Or so called wisdom. J.L. also tries to intimidate the newer officers by yelling at them. A new officer (some Polish kid with a heavy accent) asked him a question and J.L. intimidated him by yelling at him and berating him in front of everyone. Then I loved how the new officer told him "fuck off man". What a bunch of no good for nothing assholes. Both of them; B.B. and J.L. I can't wait to see both of your miserable asses work outside like the rest of us. If both of you can't handle working the desk then how will you handle working the street?
So the wind is blowing in "civilianizing" inside spots direction? Been there, done that. I came on in the early '90's and each watch had a civilian that worked the desk and the radio room. Each district also had a civilian time keeper.
And guess what?
Once they retired, they were replaced by P.O.'s.
But I wouldn't worry, at least for now.
Once again, Rahm has ordered the city's industrial size smoke and mirrors machine to be dragged out of storage and cranked up to full speed.
McCarthy started to do this when he first got here,4/5 months later all fuull duty sworn officers at HQ walked out the back door ,then,three months later were detailed back to the same spot they left..OT,how many PO's are assigned to homan square?and are all those really needed?
Sounds like a cost saving move and effort to put more officers on the street, instead of behind a desk.
Keep a good record of your time, boys and girls!
Sgt ZOD is in charge of all civilian employees. If they goof up they get sparred. If they get three spars he sends them to the phantom zone
About time. You joined this force to be the police, not an office clerk.
The cpd from this point is now going to be 100% legit no hiding people no cheating on tests 8.5 hrs for 8.5 hrs blah blah blah. Hahahahahahaha sorry
Maybe this can help you. More coos in the street might be a good thing. Boost your seniority. Us r more time due.
Does this mean No More Tac Secretary Dollies getting Merit Promotions to Detective? Is there no justice?
So it will be like the Post Office or the Secretary of State's Office? Great. Just great.
Oh my! The house Kat's will be out side. For how long?
Holy crap what is the commander from 009 doing to do, there is an entire watch of P.O's working in his office.
You most certainly don't need a badge and a gun to "work" in the "admin" offices.
"I would get rid of all the PO's in traffic court and hire all civilians. WTF. You need a badge and gun to shuffle through movers?
4/30/2016 08:05:00 AM"
The chosen ones need a hidey hole so they can focus their attention to taking the next promotional exam.
Soon there won't be any bid spots. Not good for the future. Bid spots can be beneficial for family life or as you get older.
More BS and smoke/mirror routine. Everyone knows the commander and exempts will ALWAYS find spots for their chosen people. Nothing gonna change here. The goddamn union contract, and hell the G.O.s for that matter, allows them to do all kinds of crap with their clause "at the discretion of the unit commander". All a big lie so rahm can claim he put (insert any fabricated number here) back on the street. NP!
Should use retired CPD instead. Can be re-sworn in, and used part time for any emergency situations, of which many are coming to the Oh So Stupid CPD.
Sworn part time Retired CPD is the way to go. Rahm and Bosses too stupid, never do what works everywhere else.
Curious to see what the turnout at St. JUDE will be this year. My guess is low. Morale has never been worse and I don't see that changing in the next ten years. And if Hilary wins it will never change.
Well something is cooking when you got 21 lookup keepers , and 300 civilians training in the academy as we speak
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Good get the civ old timer in 010 3W to retire already. Whines and complains if you bring an arrestee to lock up, esp if you are an outside unit. Called job security, you can thank me later for the CB #s brought thru 010.
The P/O's will be reassigned to patrol because the department is expecting massive retirements by May of 2017. the 55 and out with medical will be gone on the next contract and all the P/O's who have the time and age are going and the ones who don't will have to stay until their 60 to get the medical. the Sergeants have already put in their papers and the Lieutenants are next. Several commanders have reverted to their civil service rank of Lieutenant just to get the medical when the go.
Civilians can't complete all reports. And, I hope they completed a thorough background check including fingerprinting and drug screening..
It's bullshit what is happening. Corruption will commence shortly after civilians are placed in the districts. Where did these new hires come from? Streets and San? It just doesn't add up.
"Anonymous Anonymous said...
The city should retro fit every station to make it safe from attack. I have been in many suburban police stations and it is like a currency exchange. The stations will not be safe with only one police officer behind the desk.
4/30/2016 07:40:00 AM"
Fuck that. The City doesn't give a shit, why the fuck should I?
This is funny cause half the civilians hired in the last year as Timekeepers quit after a week..
Also, Civilians as Compstat DIO's and other sensitive spots to be taken over by Civilians? I agree dogass PO's are being hidden but some things should not be open to Civilian Employees..
I hope they were all drug tested..
Fuck it, fight to lift residency now!!
If they f**k up the most that will happen is that they switch them with another nimrod.
Weren't they looking for retired p.o's for this?
Does that mean 12 will get back the quiet room it never had?
Anonymous said...
McCarthy started to do this when he first got here,4/5 months later all fuull duty sworn officers at HQ walked out the back door ,then,three months later were detailed back to the same spot they left..OT,how many PO's are assigned to homan square?and are all those really needed?
4/30/2016 08:30:00 AM
Leave the Homan Honeys alone. They're busy maneuvering to avoid detail season. You know, that 1 day a week they must put on their uniform and stand for 8 hours. Unthinkable torture.
After 2017, you can still retire at 55 with health care, except you have to pay 2% of your annuity. That's how the current contract reads.
I'm sure the city will be asking for more in the next contract or try and eliminate the "55 and out" altogether.
and five years from now they will let all the civilians go again just like they did the last two times that they did this
After 2017, you can still retire at 55 with health care, except you have to pay 2% of your annuity. That's in our current contract, but quite naturally, I'm concerned what they will do with this in the next contract.
I'm 51, with 29 years on. Hoping to go in 2019 at 55. Hoping beyond hope there will be some kind of healthcare available then, even if it means higher contributions on my part. Otherwise, it's hello Obamacare...I do not want to stick around till I'm 60.
Stated before about district audits, also the desks at airports,vice,narcotics etc will all be retired coppers and civilians before summer,cush spots eliminated will have 500 more on street no more "desk dollies" I am scared to work the street coppers! It was nice while it lasted now back to being the fetal police!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Holy crap what is the commander from 009 doing to do, there is an entire watch of P.O's working in his office.
4/30/2016 10:11:00 AM
True dat!
He's got so many people "working" up there that they took over the quiet room for "office" space.
You could man an entire early or late roll call with the amount of people Godsel's got "working" up there.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This is funny cause half the civilians hired in the last year as Timekeepers quit after a week..
Also, Civilians as Compstat DIO's and other sensitive spots to be taken over by Civilians? I agree dogass PO's are being hidden but some things should not be open to Civilian Employees..
I hope they were all drug tested..
4/30/2016 03:42:00
Went to interview, retired not worth your time they wanted all shifts, yep just what a retired copper wants to work in shit districts dealing with the walk in thugs and animals! Since we are not "bargaining unit" represented I asked girl about liability the reply "basically you will have to hire your own attorney!" Nope sorry turn me over done on this side!
It's true a full duty officer on the desk! Most with no time OTJ! Came on years ago, on the desk were the salty old timers who paid their dues on the street and gave us young bucks advice about doing our arrests and helped us properly write paper so as to not get jammed up! Now you go into stations and all the young blood on the desk, many reasons, but the reality is you belong in the trenches first,learn how to be the police before you try to advise the police!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Fuck it, fight to lift residency
Shouldn't be a fight. Just a law suit. Don't let our quiet as a mouse fop con the rank and file to use residency as a bargaining chip.
You most certainly don't need a badge and a gun to "work" in the "admin" offices.
4/30/2016 10:38:00 AM
I disagree. You need it for all of the crimes committed in the admin office. Examples of the crimes:Theft of lunches. Backstabbing. Killing time. Unlawful use of computer.
Yeah. Give me residency ! File the suit make the mayor eat crow.
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Residency isn't going anywhere boys and girls sorry to burst your bubble
Anonymous Anonymous said...
After 2017, you can still retire at 55 with health care, except you have to pay 2% of your annuity. That's in our current contract, but quite naturally, I'm concerned what they will do with this in the next contract.
I'm 51, with 29 years on. Hoping to go in 2019 at 55. Hoping beyond hope there will be some kind of healthcare available then, even if it means higher contributions on my part. Otherwise, it's hello Obamacare...I do not want to stick around till I'm 60.
4/30/2016 05:59:00 PM
Fuck no! I don't care what they move the age to. I'm out when I hit 20, I'll be 45. Hellllooooooo v a
Retired guys that want to go back. 1st and 3rd watch, - No guns, no benefits, work holidays for regular wages, no protection, 15.00 per hour, no lunch, must stand all hours, suit and tie, and a ppo can tell you what to do for him. Bosses can tell you to clean puke up and you will do it.
But after 18 months, pay goes to $18.50 a hour.
Both of them; B.B. and J.L. I can't wait to see both of your miserable asses work outside like the rest of us. If both of you can't handle working the desk then how will you handle working the street?
Who is worse? The house mouse or the copper who bitches about them anonymously?
In over 25 years I've seen coppers go from running and gunning house mouse haters to house mouse's themselves.
I never understood why people on this job spend so much time and energy whining about insiders. Could it be that THEY want to work inside but either don't have the seniority or clout to do so?
Sounds like a cost saving move and effort to put more officers on the street, instead of behind a desk.
Cost savings for who? We are already short handed. They used the same excuse when they closed lock ups a few years back. Oh, this is going to free up officers to work the streets. Yet the news media never printed how many officers would be affected nor did they report that since the position of lockup keeper, being a bid position and therefore protected by our contract, they could not simply throw them out. The department offered them spots inside.
Soon there won't be any bid spots. Not good for the future. Bid spots can be beneficial for family life or as you get older.
True. But to be eligible for a bid spot you need seniority. And that's the problem. There are just so many bid positions available per district. So where is the Commander or watch Lt. going to hide "their" people? You have to make up spots.
Besides, This is only being done because Rahm needs to divert media attention from his latest scandal. Once that dies down things will go back to normal like they always do. House mouse's may spend some time back on the streets, but they ALWAYS find their way back inside.
The only thing I care about is the 1st and 16th of every month. If you want to work inside, be my guest. I just don't care. Besides, I can think of a few P.O.'s currently working outside that I would rather have inside. Would be safer for all of us.
8.5 hrs for 8.5
That will happen by 2018. Everyone will have to swipe in and out by then.
No more leaving early without handing in a slip.
No more getting 1 or 2 on the front and not hand in a slip.
Thank GOD I'll be outta here long before that!
After 2017, you can still retire at 55 with health care, except you have to pay 2% of your annuity.
I have no doubt that with the next contract the city will want to up your contribution each year.
Just remember, once upon a time healthcare was totally free. Then the city asked for $2 a pay check. What's the price we are paying for health care now?
Anonymous said...
For years I have read the comments by police officers who work the beat car to dump allpolice officers who work inside back outside to be replaced by civilians. Be careful what you wish for. There are good and lazy both in and out. Remember the less police officers means the less money being paid into the pension. The civilization of the department has been going on for years. It started in headquarters with sworn jobs being lost to civilians in latent prints, identification, personnel, medical section, evidence, police dispatchers and more. How about the loop foot detail where you had one PO directing traffic. Now they have been replaced by two to three civilians who look like homeless people and have no clue on how to direct traffic. The same at the airports. Next they will replace the ETs and crime lab, other cities have. So enjoy working with the civilians who are political patronage workers who hate you. The goal of this administration is to get rid of as many police officers as possible and replaced with their people.
4/30/2016 02:11:00 AM
Bingo! Give that man a cigar!
4/30/2016 03:42:00
Went to interview, retired not worth your time they wanted all shifts, yep just what a retired copper wants to work in shit districts dealing with the walk in thugs and animals! Since we are not "bargaining unit" represented I asked girl about liability the reply "basically you will have to hire your own attorney!" Nope sorry turn me over done on this side!
4/30/2016 06:31:00 PM
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But.....consider the fun you could have with the mutts because the worst they could do to you would be to fire you. You've got a pension so you can't lose what you already have. You could be the desk officer version of Judge Judy. What fun!
Anonymous said...
Does that mean 12 will get back the quiet room it never had?
4/30/2016 04:37:00 PM
Yes, I remember when 19 merged into 23, you know, the new building. On a tour around I saw the "quiet room" which apparantly was always locked and used by the front office only for storage and whatever they wanted. Couldn't even peek in the room.
Wait a minute , keep the Front Desk staffed with all sworn police officers .
Put the civilians in the front office , one sworn , one civilian .
FOP please , FOP district representative , Post the Officers assigned to Beat Cars everyday and then list names of all Police Officers assigned ? where are they ?
Also Post on SCC the number of one man cars , down cars and number of sworn police officers in caps , review , foot posts , parks , school cars , ghost cars
Latest rumor from city hall
55 with health care will be out next contract , it goes back up to age 60.
City wants to raise mandatory age to 66 , but if you stay you will then receive the 3% cola , not a bad idea . I am 61 and if this passes I will gladly stay the extra 3 years . Straight days , summer furloughs , all the VRI that I want , I use every BFD , Personal Day , work most holidays than Take a day off during the week , a few medical days a year , all legit . I know longer come to work with flu symptoms and I make over $100,000 a year .
Turn out at St. Jude was awesome . It's for the Families of our deceased , not the Bosses .
I am retired.why in the world would I want to come back.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Latest rumor from city hall
55 with health care will be out next contract , it goes back up to age 60.
City wants to raise mandatory age to 66 , but if you stay you will then receive the 3% cola , not a bad idea . I am 61 and if this passes I will gladly stay the extra 3 years . Straight days , summer furloughs , all the VRI that I want , I use every BFD , Personal Day , work most holidays than Take a day off during the week , a few medical days a year , all legit . I know longer come to work with flu symptoms and I make over $100,000 a year .
5/01/2016 12:42:00 PM
No idiot you leave 70,000 pension on the table every year you pay state tax and pay for your medical you work for about $6.00 per hour with overtime and risk being next media sensation and lose it all goof!
Any copper who retired anytime recently then retired under the 4 on 2 off schedule but they want to hire these retired coppers to work for CPD as civilians working the old 6 on 2 off schedule...... fuck that!
Po's at callback will be sent back this summer and the medical numbers are climbing. Is it true po gets CR on PO who is blind as a bat claiming he's starring at her @ss?!!! Unbelievable!!!
"Retired guys that want to go back. 1st and 3rd watch, - No guns, no benefits, work holidays for regular wages, no protection, 15.00 per hour, no lunch, must stand all hours, suit and tie, and a ppo can tell you what to do for him. Bosses can tell you to clean puke up and you will do it.
But after 18 months, pay goes to $18.50 a hour.
5/01/2016 07:30:00 AM"
There will be a line out the door because you have dozens of retirees that want to get away from the wife, husband, don't know what to do with their time, miss the job and just want to be around the fellas, those with dementia that forgot how the city treats their employees like shit and others that need the money so bad they will put up with the bullshit.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Latest rumor from city hall
55 with health care will be out next contract , it goes back up to age 60.
City wants to raise mandatory age to 66 , but if you stay you will then receive the 3% cola , not a bad idea . I am 61 and if this passes I will gladly stay the extra 3 years . Straight days , summer furloughs , all the VRI that I want , I use every BFD , Personal Day , work most holidays than Take a day off during the week , a few medical days a year , all legit . I know longer come to work with flu symptoms and I make over $100,000 a year .
Work VRI and work all the Holidays...When are you going to start enjoying your life away from the CPD sir.
How many good years of your life will you have left if your plan on working until your 66 humping a beat car.
Sad you have nothing else to look forward to.
Latest rumor from city hall
55 with health care will be out next contract , it goes back up to age 60.
City wants to raise mandatory age to 66 , but if you stay you will then receive the 3% cola , not a bad idea . I am 61 and if this passes I will gladly stay the extra 3 years . Straight days , summer furloughs , all the VRI that I want , I use every BFD , Personal Day , work most holidays than Take a day off during the week , a few medical days a year , all legit . I know longer come to work with flu symptoms and I make over $100,000 a year.
Sorry but if you are 61 now and this contract is up in June of 2017 that will make you least 62 and by the time the new contract is signed and sealed you will probably have already turned 63 and have been forced out already.
For all those people hating on civilians working in the police department go to hell. They have to go through the same thing you do if they work for the city. They have to get a background check and drug test and pass test just like the police. The ones who are interviewing them are Sgts. So give it them a chance.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Retired guys that want to go back. 1st and 3rd watch, - No guns, no benefits, work holidays for regular wages, no protection, 15.00 per hour, no lunch, must stand all hours, suit and tie, and a ppo can tell you what to do for him. Bosses can tell you to clean puke up and you will do it.
But after 18 months, pay goes to $18.50 a hour.
5/01/2016 07:30:00 AM
Wow! Who wouldn't jump at that?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Latest rumor from city hall
55 with health care will be out next contract , it goes back up to age 60.
City wants to raise mandatory age to 66 , but if you stay you will then receive the 3% cola , not a bad idea . I am 61 and if this passes I will gladly stay the extra 3 years . Straight days , summer furloughs , all the VRI that I want , I use every BFD , Personal Day , work most holidays than Take a day off during the week , a few medical days a year , all legit . I know longer come to work with flu symptoms and I make over $100,000 a year.
Sorry but if you are 61 now and this contract is up in June of 2017 that will make you least 62 and by the time the new contract is signed and sealed you will probably have already turned 63 and have been forced out already.
5/02/2016 08:21:00 PM
3% Cola? Nice promise but will there be anything in the pension fund to pay it?
Fuck no! I don't care what they move the age to. I'm out when I hit 20, I'll be 45. Hellllooooooo v a
Guess again.
Minimum retirement is 20 yrs OTJ and minimum age of 50.
Fuck no! I don't care what they move the age to. I'm out when I hit 20, I'll be 45. Hellllooooooo v a
Guess again.
Minimum retirement is 20 yrs OTJ and minimum age of 50.
You guess again. You can leave with 20 years on before the age of 50, but you can't start collecting your pension until you're 50.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Fuck no! I don't care what they move the age to. I'm out when I hit 20, I'll be 45. Hellllooooooo v a
Guess again.
Minimum retirement is 20 yrs OTJ and minimum age of 50.
You guess again. You can leave with 20 years on before the age of 50, but you can't start collecting your pension until you're 50.
5/03/2016 10:19:00 PM
Leaving at 45, no checks until 50, no COLA until 55 or 60? Extremely bad strategy. Hope you have a great new job. If not, you will be in serious financial trouble.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Fuck no! I don't care what they move the age to. I'm out when I hit 20, I'll be 45. Hellllooooooo v a
Guess again.
Minimum retirement is 20 yrs OTJ and minimum age of 50.
You guess again. You can leave with 20 years on before the age of 50, but you can't start collecting your pension until you're 50.
5/03/2016 10:19:00 PM
Leaving at 45, no checks until 50, no COLA until 55 or 60? Extremely bad strategy. Hope you have a great new job. If not, you will be in serious financial trouble.
5/04/2016 09:42:00 AM
I sure do. Take advantage of tuition reimbursement before its gone. Pay off all bills before you retire, and don't live above your means. I'm getting out of here young. I'll be damned if the city is going to take my youth and sanity anymore than it has or will. I'm going to spend time with my family.........time is counting down!
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