Detective Exam Day
For the first time in what? Eleven years?
About f#$%ing time.
We'll leave this spot open for horror stories about the 12-hour test encompassing what used to be two separate testing dates - we're sure there will be a couple.
Good luck to everyone, insofar as you score below us.
What's this envelope from Eugene Williams that was left on our doorstep last night?
About f#$%ing time.
We'll leave this spot open for horror stories about the 12-hour test encompassing what used to be two separate testing dates - we're sure there will be a couple.
Good luck to everyone, insofar as you score below us.
What's this envelope from Eugene Williams that was left on our doorstep last night?
Labels: promotions
posted by SCC at 12:09 AM
161 Comments:
The envelope was your invitation to the secret study group that they had.
The first RED FLAG is...
...if they fail to immediately Scantron the tests and give you your raw score before you leave the school building.
I'm sure that envelope was in error --unless youre part of NOBLE
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SO many stories of time due denied and (non-exam) events being trashed by time off canceled last-minute. Mother's Day, college graduations, First Communions and proms this weekend. My sympathy to all of you trying to juggle all of it.
From an old retired dick.
Best of luck to all you guys and gals taking the test. It' a great job and you will have to bust your asses at time. Play by the set rules, cause there is no pinch worth getting you thrown in club fed or fired. Write those reports how it happened, creative writing will fuck you. Trick bagging a career criminal that did not do the crime is immoral and could bite you in the ass years later.
Buy good shoes and carry two guns. Working a case for 48 hours straight is good O.T and limit those to one a year. Have a life outside of the squad or your arteries will clog up and you will be on the desk after a H.A.
Seen many a good dick' hit the floor many times after stopping after the tour and going home after the last round at the gin mill. Many die before they see 25 years on the job. Pizza everyday is a killer.
Learn from the calm, type B and cool dick's, They know the system well. Fuck the late list cause you will always have 20 hand outs in your in box. Criminal lawyers and asa' are not your friends !! They will use you to their benefit.
Lots of O.T to be made but don't be a hog kids !!
God be with you all.
PS- There are many dick' that could not find a gun at Shores Gallery !! Beware of them.
Good luck to those who make it. Prepare to have no life. If you have less than 15 years on the job, prepare to start getting shit furloughs too.
The package from Williams is amtrack.
I'm retiring in 11 months. I'm sleeping in...Good Luck to those who are taking the test!
I'm in. I studied with Gene Williams!
Here is question 12 off the first part of the Detective exam.
PS. thanks Eugene for the secret guide.
You walk into a casino and observe are about to sit down at a Black Jack table and observe that BUBBLEHEAD is at the table with a pile of Winnings, and you both make eye contact. What do you do?
A. Walk away and pretend you did not notice him.
B. Sit down and play as if you don't know him.
C. Play a few hands and then get up and find another table.
D. Confront him about the Money he scammed you out of and collect on the spot.
The answer is D. Collect on the spot!
Because of political correctness and cheating, scores will not be known for 6 months to a year, instead of before you leave the building, as in past times. Was the only legit test on the department.
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Johnson and Escalante were wearing body cameras in Austin! You know what that means to me? Absolutely fucking nothing!!!!! Not a fucking god damn thing!!!!!!
Test is already a scam. Called hr and they said they dont have a passing score set up. Which means you may take a second part and not be eligible after tou find out months later that you actually failed the first part.
I made my phone call. Ill be in the next class for sure. My dad is a sergeant at Iad. :-)
I'm already done with my test. Hahaha suckers.
Sincerely,
A NOBLE Member
make sure you bring an apple in for the proctor.
Remember, take this position you'll have to choose between work and family. With the high number of hours, family life goes down the toilet.
12 hour test - but I bet you won't get a score for 6-9 months until the figure how to get the clouted and merits in.
Good Luck Mike S. Your only friend is counting on you lol.
"D"
Good luck kids. I'll be thinking about you while I'm downing PBRs and Kesslers and playing pinch and tickle with "Hoots" Halloran at Beatrice' s.
The job ain't what it used to be. Be for warned.
After a 2 and 27 performance last night, whoever scheduled the detective test for one of the first typically warm weekends in chicago should be fired.
p.s. good luck to those who weren't taught the test in their secret study group
hurray, grade the scantrons and report to the Area on Monday we need the help.
This test should have been cancelled until the investigation into the Lt's test is finalized. By going forward with this test shows the CPD is not taking this seriously and does not care that the system is flawed. Good luck to those who studied and are legit. @%#* you to the merit/clouted who sat pretty in their secret study groups being hand fed the answers.
I just couldn't take it anymore, it was such a cluster at the test I couldn't even sit there anymore. I got up and left. Screw Det. Job, I'm out !
The guys who detective teat used to be the only one that was legit. You need smart guys to do the brain work. Let's hope they leave it that way.
12 hours-what a nightmare that is going to be. What a shame.
How many are in "eddies" crew, or is gene still involved?
SCC;
You must be prominent in NOBLE.
That's the only way you get an envelope from Gene Williams.
Anonymous said...
The first RED FLAG is...
...if they fail to immediately Scantron the tests and give you your raw score before you leave the school building.
5/07/2016 12:30:00 AM
You must be new. The second part of the test has been mainly written not scantron, at least in the past.
Those assholes stole the wrong fucking test!
So if your are rdo today you got to "volunteer" to work at time n half to cover for those who are taking the test! Really, why is the shortage of officers different today than any other day?
And, here is a question, probably not on the test. Let say one po observes another committing a crime (while on the clock). One super is working out while the other is snoozen. The one who observes said criminal behavior is not part of the special circle of the taken care of , the thieving po is. Who can the observing po contact regarding the theft? All prior acts of unbelievable behavior by the thieving po has been over looked because of this special circle. Does the observer just close their eyes, knowing that nothing will be addressed when it comes to the thief? Or is there anybody out there who does actually care about the bs that goes on and if so who might that be? Any suggestions?
Same shit pulled by him in the 80's that was beefed sucessfully by Det Candidates that were far better officers than his picks, but the wrong color skin
One of the scenarios deals with a crime scene investigation of police involved shooting. Details about dealing with media on scene, at hospital. Another scenario involves internal investigation of misconduct.
damn woke up late
A lot of no-shows
ref. DN 04-45:
* Notice to Report sent to Applicants on 21 Jul 2003 .
Part 1 Written was 18 Dec 2004 (results sent 18 Feb 05).
Part 2 Logic was 23 Apr 2005 (results sent 8 Aug 05)
First promotions off the list were around Jan 2006 (?).
To bad. There's 4,000 chumalones taking an exam that is meant to offset diversity, not intellectually solving crime.
Good Luck to the only the top 7% that will eventually be chosen to join the ranks of BigCityDicks, then there's the shameless standard lot of 20% merit hacks and the remaining 73% (with no measurable communication skills or work ethic), will be...well...you know.
We all will see how legitimate this exam is going to be and watch for the New Transparent Department to post the List with Scores and Rankings without delay.
009 3rd watch was told at 845pm Friday all previously approved time off on sat is denied by area central dep chief Ryan. Suck it if you have your kids 1st Communion to attend or other engagement.
I blame goof ball Don O'Niell for this bs. But if you work in HQ or other 9-5 m-f you can take the test with no issues. Midnight po: tough shit to you.
you will need to hooked up to the 11th n 19th wards to get the spot
I had a tough day. I got up at 9 and went for breakfast and had a meat lovers skillet with pancakes. I took a leisurely walk on the lakefront, went home and watched TV. I hope everybody had fun fighting for 250 legitimate non merit spots.
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I would like to see all of those body can videos that the Supt took Friday night. Every one of them will have a perfectly clear view of the ski. Did anyone see the way he was wearing it clipped to his vest collar with the lens pointing to his chin and the sky.
This guy is so phony. He goes on about using the technology as its meant to be used and then he can't even wear it properly.
Johnson and Escalante were wearing body cameras in Austin! You know what that means to me? Absolutely fucking nothing!!!!! Not a fucking god damn thing!!!!!!
Thats nice, but us either of them in box 1 or even 2 with a trr attached?
It used to be tough to make detective, even without the phony merit picks. But, it was and I am sure it still is, the greatest job on the department. It remains one of my best memories and my former squad mates still meet on occasion . Patrol officers are not treated well. You will see the difference once you make an area. If you do make detective, stay there and never take another promotional examination.
I feel bad for the kids who didn't have enough time to take this exam. The next time this exam comes around, half of your career will have been over. Your chances of being a detective on this department are slim to none. Exams for detective, Sergeant, and lieutenant should be every 5 years or less. Fop what say you?
Is it true that Maryet, Nakia, and Davina took the detectives test today? After all, they may need a LEGITIMATE promotion after this investigation into cheating allegations is concluded.
It's all legit kid... If you haven't figured out that this is the most corrupt promotion process in the most corrupt police dept in the most corrupt city in the world than I have a few magic beans to sell you. Being a Detective used to be a source of pride and a career high light years ago. Those days are gone thanks to so many who destroyed any resemblance of real policing in the United States. Oh yeah and if by some miracle this test is not thrown out because of the hundreds of inevitable law suits because of the stupidest possible way to give a promotional test, and you actually beat the odds of not being passed over by all the super duper cream of the crop "merit" picks then have fun chasing down "witnesses" to ghetto agg batts and filling out hours of useless progress reports, oh yeah and also never seeing your family. Oh well, it's all legit anyways right?
Hey 2:18 AM retired Dick !!!!
Why would you say the a.s.a.'a are not your friend ? OOh I get it. You must have been the detective who could not answer their questions about the case you handled. I have been dealing with the a.s.a. office almost 20 years and they treat you with the respect you give them. AND they return the favor if you screw them over
OT. (reading that retired dick post) I know this is about 40 years too late. But to the two Bomb and Arson guys who saved my life by standing up Jack Farmer (now deceased but made FBI #1) on Iowa Street so many years ago...
Still alive because you guys knew how to handle things the right way. THANK YOU.
Former Chicago - NC - Now in TX
Is it true that Maryet, Nakia, and Davina took the detectives test today? After all, they may need a LEGITIMATE promotion after this investigation into cheating allegations is concluded.
5/07/2016 04:11:00 PM
I don't know about that but I do know Fenner and Hall still havent done their ethics. Probably trying to figure out if their $15 k a year should be listed as a "gift".
I ate my scantron
Anonymous said...
The first RED FLAG is...
...if they fail to immediately Scantron the tests and give you your raw score before you leave the school building.
5/07/2016 12:30:00 AM
You must be new. The second part of the test has been mainly written not scantron, at least in the past.
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He may be new, but you have no common sense. What does the second part being written have to do with whether they can give you your first part (scantron) immediately in a transparent manner have to do with anything? There is no correlation. If they wanted there to be any credibility to the process, of course they would tell you your scantron score immediately. There would be no reason not to.
If you are a detective, I feel for your colleagues.
- Former detective, current Sgt. NOT MERIT.
Was it only me ? The test site smelled like refer. What the hell is that about. Guys going into girls restrooms and visa versa. I got such a bad headache I had to leave and got the urge to stop at white castle for a dozen sliders. I have not had them in 20 years. I ate them like a lion on a wildebeest. Was the smell a part of the test ?
How come so many were going to the bathroom and outside and coming back in. My proctor told me I could not leave cause I was not cleared by Eddie Norton and John-John Boy, our top of the line brass.
OT. (reading that retired dick post) I know this is about 40 years too late. But to the two Bomb and Arson guys who saved my life by standing up Jack Farmer (now deceased but made FBI #1) on Iowa Street so many years ago
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I Remember that brother, old Ernie passed about 10 years ago. Finest dick in B and A. Most, if not all the B & A ' dicks from way back are gone. Many great dicks' from the old days. Most are gone, may they rest in God' hands, they were thee best in the country.
FUCK YOU EXEMPTS. Who the fuck approved the questions for that bullshit ass test. Bunch of subjective bullshit. Why did i even bother studying orders. Werent you subject matter experts supposed to approve good test questions. Only a bunch of idiots who never did shit would approve that test. And don't even get me started on the rediculous amount of time. Why the fuck was the an hour break in part 2. Why the fuck couldn't all of that be given at the same time. You wanna know why people don't do shit. It's because of you idiot fucks are running this shitshow department.
Test.done.Brain.hurts.sleep.now.goodnite.
Long....flucking....day....
Family first. Fuck the test
Wow. What a waste of time
All I can say is that I just waisted $2000 and 6 weekends
WTF where did they come up with some of those BS questions
Congrats to all the cheaters!
Not too bad a test pretty easy
The room was way to cold
So if your are rdo today you got to "volunteer" to work at time n half to cover for those who are taking the test! Really, why is the shortage of officers different today than any other day?
And, here is a question, probably not on the test. Let say one po observes another committing a crime (while on the clock). One super is working out while the other is snoozen. The one who observes said criminal behavior is not part of the special circle of the taken care of , the thieving po is. Who can the observing po contact regarding the theft? All prior acts of unbelievable behavior by the thieving po has been over looked because of this special circle. Does the observer just close their eyes, knowing that nothing will be addressed when it comes to the thief? Or is there anybody out there who does actually care about the bs that goes on and if so who might that be? Any suggestions?
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The only suggestion I can make is that you need to get a life stroke. Wow, I've heard some real doozies on this job but you could be the biggest rambling psychopath moron crybaby I've ever heard. Get out of your mommas basement. Signed, - a guy not in the circle
This is THE Doer. I took a positive approach to the test. I studied and put the work in. I was able to finish the test and I was well versed with most of the material. This whole job is what you make of it. Pretty soon, I will be Detective Doer.
Good luck to everyone.
If you're going to be meritoriously made, simply print and sign your name on the cover sheet, and you'll be free to leave!
Did that really happen?
Un-fucking-real! Damn merit hacks...
Best job on the Police Department.
A 12 hour test seems like a long time, but when you are promoted and are assigned homicide investigations, an around the clock tour equals 23.25 hours of overtime. You will have many of these.
Check the money box, it drives them nuts.
PS- There are many dick' that could not find a gun at Shores Gallery !! Beware of them.
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You must be an old timer because NO ONE can find a gun at Shore Gallery anymore. That place hasn't had a decent gun in there for 5 years. That is a joke of a gun shop these days.
12 hours for the testing is very grueling, but when you're a det, you'll really feel the pain after a straight 48 hours putting a case together and getting it charged, and then come back the next day for more. Hope the legit make it first, but the past has shown us the meritorious will always cut in no matter how well or poorly they did on the test. Very discouraging for the legit, but nepotism and the buddy system have ruled this department forever. To the legit numbers, I wish you all the best. In my opinion, it is the best position in this department.
BLM = Black Lieutenants Matter !
So if your are rdo today you got to "volunteer" to work at time n half to cover for those who are taking the test! Really, why is the shortage of officers different today than any other day?
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Not different than any other day, except they got $$$ from somewhere else, not the regular OT budget. There was a special event# we had to put on our slips. Thank$ for taking the test ;) "Got a little change in my pocket, going jingle jangle jingle....."
Left after part 1&2 of 2 Nd test part 3 would have ended at 1900 VRI starts at 1800 oops. Good luck to all. Oh yea Stay Fetal
McCormick was so cold it was ridiculous! It feels like your in a freezer. I don't know if it was intentional or not. You can't concentrate on the test anymore, all you want if get the hell out of that place. I did asked the proctors to ask the bldg engineer to turn on the heat and guess what I was told? Sorry can't help you with that because it would be close to impossible to find a bldg engineer. And then she left smirking.
Hey 0218 hrs. Retired Dick:
Spot on.
Retired Dick/Sergeant.
The one and only reason any test was tossed out was because of a lack of minorities. Other then that no one cares. The courts don't care and the connected sure love this system. Promotion examinations should be completely taken out of the hands of the city, just because Chicago is the most corrupt city in America in the most corrupt county in the most corrupt state. Daley turned the police department into his own personal patronage system, even worse then when he got to be mayor.
What a fucking day- 0700-1825 for me. Part one seemed more difficult than part two. Still prob scored over 1k. Good luck to all.
Really, truly, no bullshit, do not give the slightest shit. More left for the rest of you.
Here is question 12 off the first part of the Detective exam.
PS. thanks Eugene for the secret guide.
You walk into a casino and observe are about to sit down at a Black Jack table and observe that BUBBLEHEAD is at the table with a pile of Winnings, and you both make eye contact. What do you do?
A. Walk away and pretend you did not notice him.
B. Sit down and play as if you don't know him.
C. Play a few hands and then get up and find another table.
D. Confront him about the Money he scammed you out of and collect on the spot.
The answer is D. Collect on the spot!
Ha! Funny stuff. What a degenerate thief he is. And he's a captain. Only on this department.
OT: in 3
Can someone please confirm if the rumor in 3 true please?
Did 360 tell some officers "I'm the lieutenant, I can do whatever I want" ???
Heard some officers were being targeted by one of the tact sgts. Then when LT got the word he ignored the real issues. Immediately after, the officers were kicked to the curb.
If true...
No LT you cannot do whatever you want. There are policies in place which protect blue shirts from harassment and discrimination. Guess being a tact LT with much clout can make you feel that way. Your wicked ways are unkind and unjust. No thank you for the maltreatment.
If false...
Just beause you are a wash out do nothing fool it does not give you the right to spread rumors about a boss who is just doing their job. Get over it. Do your job.
Just like any other position in this department , detectives are treated like shit and given no respect. Just look at any other department and see how their detectives are treated. If any of you make it you have a rude awakening waiting for you, the job is not as glamorous as portrayed in the movies.
If you think ASAs are your friend you must be a Youth Officer given a Detective badge.
Someone said
"...PS- There are many dick' that could not find a gun at Shores Gallery !! Beware of them."
The jerkoff son who ran the store into the ground can't find a gun at Shore Galleries either!
Stick with Ray O'Herron Company. You're gonna get a fair price and first class treatment out there!
Promotion to detective? You can keep it
Anonymous said...
So if your are rdo today you got to "volunteer" to work at time n half to cover for those who are taking the test! Really, why is the shortage of officers different today than any other day?
And, here is a question, probably not on the test. Let say one po observes another committing a crime (while on the clock). One super is working out while the other is snoozen. The one who observes said criminal behavior is not part of the special circle of the taken care of , the thieving po is. Who can the observing po contact regarding the theft? All prior acts of unbelievable behavior by the thieving po has been over looked because of this special circle. Does the observer just close their eyes, knowing that nothing will be addressed when it comes to the thief? Or is there anybody out there who does actually care about the bs that goes on and if so who might that be? Any suggestions?
5/07/2016 10:39:00 AM
Notify CPIC.
Thank you to the one and only gold star that showed up today that I saw and bothered to shake my hand. I guess Superintendent Johnson and Mr. Six Escalante wouldn't get any press time so you didn't bother showing your face for us, remember we are why you are here. I'm so sick of these two goofs being media hogs. Morale boost where? Rahm tools! Impeach Rahm and these goofs to!
Test was a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Looking for lawyer to sue.
....lots of empty seats.
Good luck DI on the 12 hour marathon.
LALALALA
Johnson and Escalante were wearing body cameras in Austin! You know what that means to me? Absolutely fucking nothing!!!!! Not a fucking god damn thing!!!!!!
How many ISR's or dispersals did they have while wearing the cameras?
Whomever decided to make everything happen on the same day needs a swift kick in the dick.
Fuck! that test could have been done in 3 to 4 hours!!! It amazed me how people would not sit the Fuck down to let the Damn administrators know we were ready to start and leave!! Took them 15 to 30 min to read instructions!
Did M.B. churches have communions? No? Interesting.
Not a bad test actually. My proctor could have been a little less ghetto but the announcement calling out meritorious people was well worth it!
I would like to see the DOJ and the IG's office involved in the Detective's exam scoring..By that time EW should be long gone.
I'm hitting the medical after sitting in those fucked up chairs.
They wouldn't allow anyone to use the restroom between part 2 and 3 . The proctor said it would be a 15 minute break - it was an hour !!! And then another 30 for them to read us the instructions !!! Plus it was 30 below zero in there !!! Poorly run ! My proctors all had IR numbers
Thanks Bernstein - I wasted 2000$ nothing we studied was on the test .
I'm sure everyone bombed part 3 - Going on 10 hours or more at that point . Who am I ? Where am I ?? Why is it so cold in here ?? And they announce 2 or 3 times that if you are merit that you still have to sign the cover of your test booklet prior to leaving !!! It's all legit folks ! Detective test every 11 years ???? Fuck this department
I feel bad for the kids who didn't have enough time to take this exam. The next time this exam comes around, half of your career will have been over. Your chances of being a detective on this department are slim to none. Exams for detective, Sergeant, and lieutenant should be every 5 years or less. Fop what say you
Agreed. I came on the job because I wanted to be a detective. I couldn't take the last test. Missed it by a couple months. My career is more than halfway over now and I was finally able to take the detective test. I wish I had the same drive and motivation I would have had 11 years ago. But, oh well, I guess I will remain a P.O. for the next 10 years or so. Although I did take the sergeant test, I have no desire to be a boss. I just took it to see what it was like. This detective test was my second, and last, test I will ever take. Good luck to those who are young enough on the job to still have an opportunity to take another one if they didn't do well on this one.
how about we get point for the first part? Should you be rewarded for knowing your orders?
Anonymous said...
Not too bad a test pretty easy
5/07/2016 08:07:00 PM
You must be new kid. It's NEVER easy.Unless you had the answers or are connected you ain't scoring anywhere close to being made.Its purposely made "easy" to give it to the chosen ones.
Who can the observing po contact regarding the theft? All prior acts of unbelievable behavior by the thieving po has been over looked because of this special circle. Does the observer just close their eyes, knowing that nothing will be addressed when it comes to the thief? Or is there anybody out there who does actually care about the bs that goes on and if so who might that be? Any suggestions
Ye go back to IAD ypu fucking thief
Pretty soon, I will be Detective Doer.
No you will be dick doer
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This is THE Doer. I took a positive approach to the test. I studied and put the work in. I was able to finish the test and I was well versed with most of the material. This whole job is what you make of it. Pretty soon, I will be Detective Doer.
Good luck to everyone.
5/07/2016 08:36:00 PM
We know it's you, Missy.
Eric Carter was the gold star I seen at the test.
The best part of the exam was when the director/P.A. announcer gave the instructions to the merit assholes when to raise their hand so they can be assisted in leaving before the start of the second part of the exam. That was fucken priceless. I'll never take another CPD promotional exam again. Great job juice babies!!
What a fucking day- 0700-1825 for me. Part one seemed more difficult than part two. Still prob scored over 1k. Good luck to all.
5/07/2016 10:19:00 PM
I agree.
My guess why part 2 & part 3 "seemed" easy was that you could WRITE in any answer YOU thought was correct.
Part one only gave you 4 choices and in some questions the answers were similar which made people sometimes have to guess.
I've met many a person who walks out of the tests saying "I killed that test" or " that test was too easy". When rank score comes out they score over 700. Both of them. They rack their brain and can't understand why they ranked so high. Rest assured the tests are designed this way. Anyone can rationalize why they answered a question a certain way. Since we never receive our graded tests we will NOT know if we correctly answered any question without truly knowing the order a question came from. I, for one, studied and thought the test came with some curve balls. I find it hard anyone KNEW everything on that test....unless you had some "help". Good luck to all. I'll be scoring in the 1000's too.
OT: in 3
Can someone please confirm if the rumor in 3 true please?
Did 360 tell some officers "I'm the lieutenant, I can do whatever I want" ???
Heard some officers were being targeted by one of the tact sgts. Then when LT got the word he ignored the real issues. Immediately after, the officers were kicked to the curb.
If true...
No LT you cannot do whatever you want. There are policies in place which protect blue shirts from harassment and discrimination. Guess being a tact LT with much clout can make you feel that way. Your wicked ways are unkind and unjust. No thank you for the maltreatment.
If false...
Just beause you are a wash out do nothing fool it does not give you the right to spread rumors about a boss who is just doing their job. Get over it. Do your job.
5/07/2016 11:07:00 PM
Of course it's true. He's a micromanager who doesn't care about crime. Just wants you to know he's the boss. No need to worry, plenty of 2 year wonders waiting to work with the G.O.A.T. RAT!
So I heard that there was spelling errors and the cover sheet said welcome to the lieutenants exam. What in the actual fuck? You are testing for a job that requires great attention to detail, you're allegedly supposed to be able to pick out and see things that the average copper doesn't notice...yet the administrators or subject matter experts can't even properly use a spell check, nor make sure that the test is headed correctly? INSANE! Now, I know there is a lot of I've heard this and I heard that...personally I wasn't there because I care about my kids more than I do this job. Is it true though that it was announced if you were planning on making it on merit that you didn't have to finish the test? The merit system here is absolute bullshit!
honestly, not enough time. You have to really psycho analyze the Subject Matter Experts to guess the right answer. Either break into 2 days again or just scrap the qual part.
Question 84
You are a new detective you arrive on the scene of a homicide where the alleged offender is the mayors nephew what do you do.
A. Go on the medical
B. Go on IOD
C. Call Lt. Walsh
D. Call Dean Andrews
E. Bend over and kiss you ass goodbye because your fucked no matter what you do.
I had to pee and I held it for 2 hours 😓😱😨😰
Anonymous said...
FUCK YOU EXEMPTS. Who the fuck approved the questions for that bullshit ass test. Bunch of subjective bullshit. Why did i even bother studying orders. Werent you subject matter experts supposed to approve good test questions. Only a bunch of idiots who never did shit would approve that test. And don't even get me started on the rediculous amount of time. Why the fuck was the an hour break in part 2. Why the fuck couldn't all of that be given at the same time. You wanna know why people don't do shit. It's because of you idiot fucks are running this shitshow department.
5/07/2016 07:16:00 PM
Just think all the time wasted studying and many will prance right in, clouted in done and this has been this way for years will never change maybe you should meet your aldermen and join their "organization" that is the way,along with envelopes of cash! hopefully when Trump takes office he sends his people in to gut the criminals at the hall FOP and the city!
I'm considering filing a class class action lawsuit. This is an promotional exam not the entrance exam to medical school. It should be in two parts not 12 hours. I feel sick from not being able to go to the toilet. 😡
Anyone take the Woods or Bernstein study groups, if so, what did you think of the study material they offered and did it help?
That was brutal. I studied my balls off AND paid for a class. The room was below zero, instructions read for 30 min for each part, questions were very subjective, I felt great going into the test. Now, not so much. No one should test for 12 hours. I feel like i wasted my $2,000. That was brutal...still decompressing.
Anonymous said...
All I can say is that I just waisted $2000 and 6 weekends
5/07/2016 07:59:00 PM
YES
If you poleeeece werent so busy takin yo damn tests, you coulda been out hurrr protectin us!! We gotz people leakin out hurrr.
do yo damn jobzzz!!!
;)
Anonymous said...
FUCK YOU EXEMPTS. Who the fuck approved the questions for that bullshit ass test? Bunch of subjective bullshit. Why did i even bother studying orders? Weren't you subject matter experts supposed to approve good test questions? Only a bunch of idiots who never did shit would approve that test. And don't even get me started on the ridiculous amount of time...
5/07/2016 07:16:00 PM
The answer to your questions regarding the Subject Matter Experts is the same for the question of who supplied answers to the lieutenant's test to the members of NOBLE, who also happen to be wives, "fiancees," or side-chicks of prominent black CPD bosses. CHEATIN' EUGENE WILLIAMS, disgraced former front-runner for the superintendent's position.
Actual test was fine. Procedure put into place for us to take it was fucking ridiculous! I'd rather play in traffic than do that shit again. Had to be 40 degrees in there. Hard to write out answers when ur teeth are chattering and you're convulsing cuz ur body is trying to avoid getting frostbite! No reason they should have taken that long to administer that damn test. Whoever made the decision to schedule both parts for the same day shld get shot.
"Thank you to the one and only gold star that showed up today that I saw and bothered to shake my hand. "
I'd give him something to shake, and it certainly wouldn't have been my hand
Make sure you show up for his retirement cake & coffee,Handjob.
I feel bad for the kids who didn't have enough time to take this exam. The next time this exam comes around, half of your career will have been over. Your chances of being a detective on this department are slim to none. Exams for detective, Sergeant, and lieutenant should be every 5 years or less. Fop what say you
Agreed. I came on the job because I wanted to be a detective. I couldn't take the last test. Missed it by a couple months. My career is more than halfway over now and I was finally able to take the detective test. I wish I had the same drive and motivation I would have had 11 years ago. But, oh well, I guess I will remain a P.O. for the next 10 years or so. Although I did take the sergeant test, I have no desire to be a boss. I just took it to see what it was like. This detective test was my second, and last, test I will ever take. Good luck to those who are young enough on the job to still have an opportunity to take another one if they didn't do well on this one.
5/08/2016 09:53:00 AM
Oh fuck you both! Most of us waited 11 years for this! It's bad enough they're letting POs with 3 years on take it. 2 years on and you want to be detective? Have you ever even arrested anyone on an IA, for a robbery, burglary, or murder?! C'mon.
Anonymous said...
Not too bad a test pretty easy
5/07/2016 08:07:00 PM
Come back and tell us that when you get your ranking and are a thousand out
Did gene williams have a study group?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
009 3rd watch was told at 845pm Friday all previously approved time off on sat is denied by area central dep chief Ryan. Suck it if you have your kids 1st Communion to attend or other engagement.
I blame goof ball Don O'Niell for this bs. But if you work in HQ or other 9-5 m-f you can take the test with no issues. Midnight po: tough shit to you.
5/07/2016 11:45:00 AM
Dep. Chief Ryan Is going to vacation in Cabo soon and needs international coverage on his department issued phone so he can keep up with what is going on. Wake up you kiss ass. Vacation is for getting away and enjoying the family away from work. The city is broke but there is always money to spend on stupid shit like giving this asshole international coverage on his own time vacationing. And Information Services Ass Kisser Deputy Lewin gives everyone what they want.
So I heard that there was spelling errors and the cover sheet said welcome to the lieutenants exam. What in the actual fuck? You are testing for a job that requires great attention to detail, you're allegedly supposed to be able to pick out and see things that the average copper doesn't notice...yet the administrators or subject matter experts can't even properly use a spell check, nor make sure that the test is headed correctly? INSANE! Now, I know there is a lot of I've heard this and I heard that...personally I wasn't there because I care about my kids more than I do this job. Is it true though that it was announced if you were planning on making it on merit that you didn't have to finish the test? The merit system here is absolute bullshit!
Yes, it is absolutely true. They announced it to everyone stating that if you're only interested in the merit selection, write your name on your cover sheet and you can leave at any time. What a fucking joke! And yes there were spelling errors on the test as well as other errors that were pointed out by people taking the test. Honestly, the test wasn't anywhere near what I expected it to be. Seemed like a half assed attempt of something thrown together at the last minute. Most of it didn't even seem relevant except for maybe the last part of the written test. Hardly any questions regarding general orders and other pertinent job knowledge. I feel bad for anyone who spent their hard earned money on those test prep courses.
This just in.....the detective test has been CALEA approved! What a fucking joke!!!!!!!!'
1906
Will you officers please stop paying for study groups? Especially the Bernstein dude. You took a test to get on the damn job, you carry a gun, you make life altering decisions for yourself and others every day you go to work. You should be competent enough to study and memorize the materials provided. Bernstein is a con man, and you goofs have to stop making him rich. Give your alderman the $2000. Your odds at getting promoted are much better.
I took Bernstein. He was dead on!
Is it true that those who Already Know they will be promoted meritoriously were able to leave at some point during the process and didn't have to complete the testing????? WTF? Who walked out?
Seriously Gene, how do you look yourself in the mirror in the morning? Or is your conscience THAT seared? And yes, I believe you read this insignificant blog.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
All I can say is that I just waisted $2000 and 6 weekends
5/07/2016 07:59:00 PM
YES
5/08/2016 01:53:00 PM
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Looks like you should've spent some of that "waisted" $2000 on spelling lessons!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The best part of the exam was when the director/P.A. announcer gave the instructions to the merit assholes when to raise their hand so they can be assisted in leaving before the start of the second part of the exam. That was fucken priceless. I'll never take another CPD promotional exam again. Great job juice babies!!
5/08/2016 10:37:00 AM
Seriously? That happened??
Fuck! that test could have been done in 3 to 4 hours!!! It amazed me how people would not sit the Fuck down to let the Damn administrators know we were ready to start and leave!! Took them 15 to 30 min to read instructions!
Hey goof.....the company hired to administer the test had a schedule. It laid everything out. THE TEST Ran FROM 0800 UNTIL 1900 hrs. It had nothing to do with people taking their seats to let them know we were ready. THEY let people sit and wait between part 2 and 3. I've never been to a test that is given on the same day for a 12 hr period. Not the LSAT, bar exam, mcat, etc.
People take tests all the time BUT never over an entire day of testing. It's a fucking joke.
This job is a joke and we are cattle. Look how the connected never pass a test but get gigs on this job Making 160,000.00 /year.
Fuck this job and city.
So if your are rdo today you got to "volunteer" to work at time n half to cover for those who are taking the test! Really, why is the shortage of officers different today than any other day?
And, here is a question, probably not on the test. Let say one po observes another committing a crime (while on the clock). One super is working out while the other is snoozen. The one who observes said criminal behavior is not part of the special circle of the taken care of , the thieving po is. Who can the observing po contact regarding the theft? All prior acts of unbelievable behavior by the thieving po has been over looked because of this special circle. Does the observer just close their eyes, knowing that nothing will be addressed when it comes to the thief? Or is there anybody out there who does actually care about the bs that goes on and if so who might that be? Any suggestions?
Call IAD, and initiate a cr number. Just remember you have to leave your name, then prepare to have a LONELY career as a 99 unit. No one will work with you. You will be labeled a rat, and anyone who works with you doesn't want to be labeled a rat by association.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
FUCK YOU EXEMPTS. Who the fuck approved the questions for that bullshit ass test? Bunch of subjective bullshit. Why did i even bother studying orders? Weren't you subject matter experts supposed to approve good test questions? Only a bunch of idiots who never did shit would approve that test. And don't even get me started on the ridiculous amount of time...
5/07/2016 07:16:00 PM
The answer to your questions regarding the Subject Matter Experts is the same for the question of who supplied answers to the lieutenant's test to the members of NOBLE, who also happen to be wives, "fiancees," or side-chicks of prominent black CPD bosses. CHEATIN' EUGENE WILLIAMS, disgraced former front-runner for the superintendent's position.
5/08/2016 02:34:00 PM
"Subjective" is an understatement...
Here's the real skinny on CPD promotional exams...
They're intentionally drawn up to have enough subjective
"Choose The Best Answer" bullshit which allow the city
to keep too many Herbs, Squares and Boy Scouts from
gaining a solid representative footing in the investigative
and supervisory ranks.
Y'all might fuck around and hurt somebody with clout
If/when they step on their dick/put a foot up their own pussy...
The 11th & 19th Wards can't have that.
Daley Inc./Rahm & Co. can't have that.
The alderfools can't have that.
The hypocritical, drinking from
the cup of eternal damnation, false doctrine
spewing, phony-assed West and South Side
clergy can't have that either...
"Best Answer" is an intentionally ambiguous,
Built in control dee-vice.
Too many upright, uncontrolled, no favor owing investigators
and supervisors would fuck this department up for the clouted
and give too many regular people a more than even break.
That.
Must never be allowed to happen.
Shit...
You churls will be wanting to take it to
elected officialdom and the media if
you ever gain a solid footing on this job
or in this town.
I have 22 years on this job and young guys were asking ,why aren't you taking the test ,now you know why ,the few the proud, the connected few.
I thought Dr Bernstein prepared us well for the exam. I knew what to expect, and how to deal with any test question.
However, you can't just go to Bernstein, you have to study what he gives you.
Regardless if you know the material, 10+ hours for a test with 4000 competitors, in a 45 degree room, for a promotion that happenes once a decade, is poorly executed. That was the mental equivalent to running on a treadmill for 10 hours. By hour 8, your brain is mush, your back is sore, your bladder is full, your will is gone, and your eyesight is dull. How can you get a fair score when you are so exhausted. My newly acquired detective skills have told me someone will sue. Good.
I don't know if it was just the section I was sitting in (section #2), but when I looked around the room, I'd say it was about 20-25% were no shows. Looking back on it now, I wish I would've been a no-show. I wasted 12 hours of my life on top of a stupid amount of time studying. Oh well....
Anybody see any questions that could be appealed?
A
I took LT Manchas class and they were really accurate with information. I think their scenarios were fantastic and what i leaned was relevant and spot on. Also, they charged a fee but REFUNDED about 90 0/0 of that. How much did Bernstein decide to give back due to their shortened schedule? No way was their 2k fee worth it over the study group
Offered by mancha, Brennan an O'Donnell. Big thank you to Aquarius, Emily, Sgt winstrom, AND lt klichoswski
I was a couple years on the job studying for the Sgt. and Det. test, I was so hopeful until I realized that it was crooked as shit. I learned their were actually three tiers of study groups (just as there is 3 tiers of discipline) ...the Berstein study group, the clouted study group, and the P.O's that were actually fed the questions. How I found out is that A clouted P.O. found out that his buddies were P.Os with the answers and never told him. He was pissed, but he still made Sgt. Never wasted my time again.
The room was very cold. I didn't understand some questions. I was hungry. The proctor was looking at me. Nobody shook my hand on the way in. The test took over ten hours. I was worrying that my poor cat was getting hungry. I wish someone initiate a lawsuit. I wasted $2000 and I don't think it was well spent.
Oh man I wonder what I will do tomorrow. Maybe I should call mommy and ask her.
SO some left after the 1st part of test?
FOP here is a clue FOIA the names of the candidates that did not take part 2 of the test.
DEAN??? So much college and the guy still think he will outsmart RAHM.
Or you others who feel wronged will file yourselves. Worse thing that can happen is they make you merit.
When they announced that they had a special announcement to make, I thought they were gonna tell us that they fixed the heat. F*&^/#$@ merit b.s.!
Regardless if you know the material, 10+ hours for a test with 4000 competitors, in a 45 degree room, for a promotion that happenes once a decade, is poorly executed. That was the mental equivalent to running on a treadmill for 10 hours. By hour 8, your brain is mush, your back is sore, your bladder is full, your will is gone, and your eyesight is dull. How can you get a fair score when you are so exhausted. My newly acquired detective skills have told me someone will sue. Good.
5/08/2016 09:18:00 PM
It was announced from the beginning that both parts were on the same day. You were given notice to expect a 12 hour day. If you didn't like that, don't take the test. Good luck with a lawsuit.
Will you officers please stop paying for study groups? Especially the Bernstein dude. You took a test to get on the damn job, you carry a gun, you make life altering decisions for yourself and others every day you go to work. You should be competent enough to study and memorize the materials provided. Bernstein is a con man, and you goofs have to stop making him rich. Give your alderman the $2000. Your odds at getting promoted are much better.
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I didn't do any of the study groups, special study groups, or have merit to fall back on during the last test. I looked at each order and figured out why the department was covering their ass and throwing the the next PO under the bus. That ended up scoring me into the first class. I would save the money!
Will you officers please stop paying for study groups? Especially the Bernstein dude. You took a test to get on the damn job, you carry a gun, you make life altering decisions for yourself and others every day you go to work. You should be competent enough to study and memorize the materials provided. Bernstein is a con man, and you goofs have to stop making him rich. Give your alderman the $2000. Your odds at getting promoted are much better.
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Seeing as there will probably not be another promotional exam in the next decade, it doesn't really matter; but for those who care and for what it's worth, the money I spent for the Bernstein class was absolutely, positively worth every dime. It will pay for itself in the first two months after I finish Lt class.
The best part of the exam was when the director/P.A. announcer gave the instructions to the merit assholes when to raise their hand so they can be assisted in leaving before the start of the second part of the exam. That was fucken priceless. I'll never take another CPD promotional exam again. Great job juice babies!!
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If this is indeed true, any and all officers should have the fortitude to contact the Chicago Inspector General's office, as this would be just further evidence of the misconduct and lack of transparency in CPD's testing/promotional process. And you need to tell FOP to make reduction in merit promotions a part of the negotiation process in the next CBA.
Oh fuck you both! Most of us waited 11 years for this! It's bad enough they're letting POs with 3 years on take it. 2 years on and you want to be detective? Have you ever even arrested anyone on an IA, for a robbery, burglary, or murder?! C'mon.
5/08/2016 04:34:00 PM
With how long they left the last list up they need low seniority people to take it. And if you make detective (early money is on you won't) you'll be praying for the young guys to make it too so you get a furlough segment later than February.
There were probably somewhere between 2500-3000 people there. That announcement about the merit puerile was kind of bs. They should've just said in the beginning, if you want to be eligible for merit only, you need to pass part 1 and don't have to show for part 2. I also think that announcement was for a lot of the people who didn't study and just wanted to get the fuck out of there.
Un-Noble said...
Did M.B. churches have communions? No? Interesting.
5/08/2016 07:58:00 AM
You're wrong. I took communion at an MB church before. Now it's not normal for them to do it more than monthly but they take it. Not sure where your misinformation is coming from.
Because of all the secret and clouted study groups, the FOP brought in Bernstein
years ago, to give honest coppers a fair shot. I'm retired now and enjoying Arizona.
I'm enjoying the fresh air, the peace and quiet. I'm also enjoying a higher pension.
Why ? Bernstein. If you really want to advance , just study and take Bernstein!
Now, one final piece of advice
The Anger many of you have will affect your health. Learn to relax! The FOP has classes for that.
Focus on what you can do to make the CPD a better place. Try to accept the fact that some things don't change, it's just up to you to deal with it as best you can! If you get real angry about it, it will affect your health.
Trust me, I know.
Thank You for being the Police!!!
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Seeing as there will probably not be another promotional exam in the next decade, it doesn't really matter; but for those who care and for what it's worth, the money I spent for the Bernstein class was absolutely, positively worth every dime. It will pay for itself in the first two months after I finish Lt class.
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Please tell me that you're kidding.
When the proctor said that " would the merit raise their hands and quietly exit the exam room ", we though it was a fucking joke to cheer up the candidates. At least I didn't see anyone leaving the room only because I was sitting way up front. Yes, this department selective promotion process is a fucking joke and it will never change.. I've been on this job almost 14 years and when I started studying and signed up for the ET and Detective exams, I already knew that I was taking a risk and had slim to none chance of getting promoted. But like I've been telling the guys, don't fucking bitch if you didn't make an effort to study and take the test. For those who doesn't have clout and studied their asses off, I really wish you goodluck and remember where you came from. Be humble and you'll get RESPECT from US, blue shirts..
I like the coppers who say, "you knew it was 12 hours, you are pussies, deal with it" yeah, we all understand that tough guy, but are you going to say the same things when you realize you did terrible? Don't be a douchbag.
Lowest seniority in Det division is currently 14.5 yrs . If u make it with a few hrs on the job it is a long hall to good furlough and watch, but loads of OT
Give your alderman the $2000. Your odds at getting promoted are much better.
5/08/2016 07:14:00 PM
+1!!
Pshhhh......
Coat check?????
Um......how about not.
They should've been checking to make sure everyone had a coat on!!!!
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