The Proper Response Is....
Bosses still aren't getting it - from an e-mail:
- Department Emails lingering around in unit 313 stating if a car comes in with no activity those officers must turn in a To/From to DC Staples
And as any veteran knows, the To-From should read like this:
- If the Deputy Chief will relate a number or a goal in writing for R/O to achieve, R/O will gladly fill this quota in order to remain on the Area Gang Team.
And be sure to drop a yellow slip for the overtime if this demand is made at the end of your tour. And if you have a copy of the e-mail demanding a To-From due to lack of activity, print a copy and save another - it'll come in handy at Federal Court.
Of course, to actually do this, you'd need to not be afraid of pushing a beat car on midnights or third watch, because you aren't going to be around Unit 313 for long. But that's the price of being master of your own destiny.
UPDATE: Gangs, not Saturation.
Of course, to actually do this, you'd need to not be afraid of pushing a beat car on midnights or third watch, because you aren't going to be around Unit 313 for long. But that's the price of being master of your own destiny.
UPDATE: Gangs, not Saturation.
Labels: info for the police
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
92 Comments:
Sounds like office politics.
The Watch is the best place to be right now
Someone make a copy and notify the DOJ. This is the shit that McDrunky started, which got us into this mess in the first place. Didn't Gov. Potatohead ban quotas? Did DC Staples forget that little tidbit?
Lots of dead weight in gang enforcement. Don't know why they waited so long to move the slackers. Now they have to do bullshit like this.
Let those hard chargers keep doing their thing. It gives me something to laugh at. People still don't get it yet.
///////The Bitch Lt in 018 does the same thing if a CHA car comes in without at least a parker per officer. I heard that there's a Det. who has a pre-printed To-From already filled out on a thumb drive he carries on his person. He just merely changes the date. She's also the same bitch that makes the Park car walk to the park and stand out in whatever weather conditions exist that evening until Midnight. //////
There is only one Clown in charge in unit 313 who want's his team to go out there and be the police. Be the police as if it was the 80's. Coming from a guy who doesn't leave the office and just doesn't get it. But when things go south for his guys he is going to do the West side two step.
Get an EL check everyday nothing more. That's activity.
I didn't know we had quotas, I could swear I read they were illegal
My labor lawyer said to put your quota in writing, Melissa.
Can somebody retired get a copy using a FOIA Request?
Fuck this asshole Deputy Chief!
I already push a beat car with no problems! So go FUCK yourself Boss!
Da Pelon
Too many pussies on this job. We'll always be under their thumb....
When I learned to say: "Go fuck yourself." on this job, it was the most liberating moment of my career. In five or six years not one boss has ever come to me asking me for more activity, because they know my response will basically be: "Go fuck yourself." I haven't been hounded or messed with once. Some have tried, but never got anywhere. And I don't have 20+ years on either. I'm a good 15 years away from retiring. One thing bosses know, is that the majority of us are pussies who will fold under the slightest pressure 9 times out of 10.
Be that 10th officer who pushes back. Do it calmly. Do it intelligently. And do it by the book.
And watch as no one fucks with you for the rest of your career.
Granted, you'll never see a special unit again or a merit promotion, but who gives a fuck…… At least you'll have your dignity and not be getting stressed out over what you wish you could say to your boss under your breath as you walk away.
"Ya gotta stand for something or you'll fall for anything."
Yeah the joke dc staples has a lot of nerve when she was the commander of 12 she worked from home For over two years she was very rarely seen and let that monster from the front office run the district maybe she should be writing. A to from on how she never went to work and answered the radio from home. Yeah promoted way past her level
I'm not sure why there is any bitching about the area north sat team, since they have plenty of activity. It's all traffic, but it's activity.
It won't be long before the Reverend are bitching about impound fees being Racist.
To: DC Staples
FROM: I.M. Fetal
Date: 21 May 2016
Re: Activity
I have successfully completed another tour of duty and am one day closer to retirement!
Sorry, in order to play the quota game, you have to have produced SOMETHING. Give them 1 parker per tour, then you can ask about numbers if they still complain. If you can't/won't do that, then they feel you are making it personal, even though you're not.
Staples has a lot of nerve, seeing as how she was mia while she was in 12. She used to "work" from home. She also has a secretary GN who is nothing but a coward.
OT - Chicago Pension Problem now $11.5B Bigger
“…a lower credit rating than any big U.S. city but once-bankrupt Detroit.”
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20160520/NEWS02/160519744/chicagos-pension-fund-troubles-just-became-11-5-billion-bigger
Melissa---Reality check time.
Staples is mindless.
ehh.
If you choose the life of being in a SPECIAL unit (didn't say specialized) then you need to earn your keep.
Don't come crying to FOP hall and whining about unfair treatment you are not covered under the contract.
And that TO- From should also be emailed which will make it a FOIA-able document.
I don't feel a bit sorry for you strokes in specialized units. You don't work a full tour, you don't deal with regular calls, and you don't work police hours. Either cough up the bosses demands for activity or dust off your fucking blue shirt and push a paper car.
Excellent advice to require specific quota number that the Commander is demanding.
How Aggressive Policing Affects Police Officers Themselves
July 2015
The pressure on cops to consistently deliver arrests and traffic stops is immense, and can discourage them from taking more effective approaches that aren't as quantifiable.
Eduardo Munoz / Reuters
One of the questions at the heart of the national debate over race and policing is why minorities are routinely arrested for petty offenses—drinking on the sidewalk, hanging out in the park after it closes, driving with a suspended license. One reductive explanation for these arrests is that there’s simply more crime in predominantly black and Latino neighborhoods. Another is that cops stereotype minorities as miscreants. But what if some of these arrests are motivated by something more official?
That’s what a class-action lawsuit filed by several cops against the New York City Police Department alleges. The lawsuit, which was filed four months ago, takes issue with the department’s alleged implementation of quotas for arrests and court summonses. Such quotas are prohibited in New York, as well as in several other states, but the NYPD, the plaintiffs maintain, nevertheless holds officers to monthly goals for making arrests and writing tickets.
The plaintiffs' complaint carries troubling implications. As police officers, after all, they have great authority over the lives of other Americans. But their fundamental concern—how a focus on metrics can distort a job's larger purpose—is not unique to police work. America’s workers are being monitored more and more closely by their managers. The number of hours worked, number of meetings attended, and even preferred Internet browser can be used to extrapolate productivity, possibly leading to an overemphasis on work that is quantifiable, to the exclusion of work that isn’t. The collection of data isn’t inherently problematic, but it does run the risk of fostering a system that rewards cops for filling jails without necessarily reducing violent crime or helping the community at large.
The problem, the plaintiffs say, is that police commanders will often try to appease the department’s top brass by pushing their officers to make more arrests in poorer, minority neighborhoods. While there are often higher rates of serious crime in these areas, a quantitative approach means that police face pressure to respond to such crimes by arresting people for trivial reasons—or for no reason at all. If the cops don’t fulfill their quotas, according to the plaintiffs, their superiors penalize them, denying their vacation requests, assigning them to midnight shifts, or limiting their hopes of getting promoted.
The plaintiffs, all of them minorities themselves, have been arguing that it’s tough to make a decent living and advance in their jobs without engaging in this aggressive, numbers-based style of policing. They complain that this means-to-an-end, results-based mentality can put them in a bind. Sandy Gonzalez, an officer in the Bronx and the lawsuit’s lead plaintiff, described the dynamic to me by imagining what he’d say to a hypothetical offender: “When it comes to the end of the month, and I need that number … dude, it’s your neck or mine.”
Read article at: http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/07/aggressive-policing-quotas/398165/
Not true! I can already tell you what lazy dog ass sent you that email SCC. Although Staples did say she loves suspended driver arrests. She doesn't care for the one team one class X delivery. She does love the bullshit numbers apparently. She's a joke. I heard she still hasn't even introduce herself to that unit. That's a real sign of her lack of class.
(OT) lets attack and bastardized demoralized police in Chicago more now paging through our contracts want to remove any "safety protection" for us! If you're not fetal something is wrong in your mind:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-police-contracts-fop-20160520-story.html
Are you kidding me coppers don't have the balls to stand up for themselves and do something like that. That's why these bosses shit all over you.
If a car can't come in with any activity, be it a Parker an ISR, while working in a voluntary unit then they should leave. Too many immature kids with an amazing sense of entitlement on this job. I know our job has changed and we do need to step back but the guys who are using what is happening to do nothing were probably dog asses who did nothing anyways. Adjust your work habits, but we still have a job to do. It's an oath we swore. My word means something.
Thats kinda funny. Melissa running a gang team and leaning on guys to make bullshit stops. Think she'll be there for you when you get caught on camera making up bullshit PC for a ISR, or "reasonable whateverthefuck"? Everyone says what a nice lady Melissa is, "worked for her for years and I never, ever once met her or saw her at a roll call" I dont even know what she looks like.
This to from shit is what got us into this mess in the first place. Its just another cute way to call a "quota" not a "quota". But all they give a fuck about is their own careers dont they? Ask yourself? Do you really need to be on that gang team that bad?
I guess thats why the Military only drafts 18yo's. Lotsa energy and little brains.
Sorry, but if you feel that you can no longer fulfill your duties in the unit because of the current climate we work in, which I understand, go back to the district watch. Don't be a pussy and start talking about federal court etc etc etc, you're in a unit thats sole purpose is to lock people up and suppress crime, with no responsibilities to the watch handling jobs so do it or leave, just quit crying, you knew what you signed up for when you agreed too go there and jump into your new carpenters jeans, backwards hats and carharts...
Staples is cool, she's being forced by Top Dog to say this, she know's well and good
it's all Bull Shit! Remember the Irishman treated her badly, MS remember the top
dog can do the same.
Sorry, in order to play the quota game, you have to have produced SOMETHING. Give them 1 parker per tour, then you can ask about numbers if they still complain. If you can't/won't do that, then they feel you are making it personal, even though you're not.
5/20/2016 06:54:00 AM
Sorry, but you're wrong. You don't have to bring in shit. Requiring an officer to bring in any sort of citation every time they work is a quota, even if they've never written one in their life. Your actual activity has no bearing on whether the "required" activity is an illegal quota. Quotas are illegal because they encourage and reward the practice of manufacturing crime. You need an ANOV? Stop that guy coming out of the alley and write him for pissing. Did you see him do anything wrong? Nope, but you have to bring in something. Who does it hurt? The pissbum doesn't care if he gets a ticket... he's not paying it. You get to keep your cool spot in your unit. Everyone wins, right? Nope! Everyone gets the DOJ up their asses, cameras and microphones strapped to their cars and chests, lawsuits, etc. Quotas cause civil rights violations, false reports, etc. Think about it in terms of any other profession. If a hospital requires a surgeon to perform a certain number of operations to keep his spot on his favorite shift, maybe everyone needs their appendix removed at the end of the month. Rewarding someone for meeting a quota, or punishing them for not meeting a quota, all leads down the path of manufacturing numbers to avoid being hassled or to get certain perks. Tickets should be written because someone violated a law, but because the boss said to go get some tickets. I'm sure at least one or two people here submitted a fictional contact card or curfew back in the day, all because the boss wanted numbers. If you want to get numbers, go out there and get them, but make sure you're getting then the right way. That boss demanding a parker or mover won't be testifying to save you when you get caught issuing tickets to undeserving citizens. Keep sucking ass to keep your spot though. Good luck.
Well apparently in 009 officers were told in roll call that the captain isn't happy that there are still cars that still haven't done isr cards.
"Staples has a lot of nerve, seeing as how she was mia while she was in 12. She used to "work" from home."
Is that any different than your foot post where you "duck out" early and work no more than what?20 hours a week and have weekends off? Quit your Bitchin!!! you're no better you no good do nothing ass kissing whiner waa waa waa waa.
Mayor has to testify!! From Tribune:
In an unprecedented move, city attorneys on Friday offered to admit to a federal jury that a code of silence exists in the Chicago Police Department if it meant Mayor Rahm Emanuel would not have to testify about it at the upcoming trial involving two whistleblower cops.
But U.S. District Judge Gary Feinerman rebuffed the idea, saying he was standing by his ruling earlier this week that Emanuel must take the witness stand to answer questions about the code of silence.
Feinerman said that even though he was "reluctant" to take up the mayor's valuable time and cause a media circus by having him testify, he believed Emanuel could offer "much more texture" to the existence of the code of silence if he testified about it rather than have the city's lawyers offer a written stipulation.
Feinerman said he agreed with attorneys for the whistleblower cops that the mayor's testimony "would provide further evidence of an unwritten policy and practice." Emanuel could "speak to the pervasiveness of the problem," the judge said.
We still have saturation teams? Wow.
Proper response this is interesting rahm is being compelled to testify about non-existent "code of silence" will he develop the Daley mumble "I dunno" affliction?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-mayor-rahm-emanuel-testimony-code-of-silence-met-20160520-story.html
Chuck Norris will he be called in? A good cop having a bad day?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8vQLINtYKI
Now time for us 9161 coppers pop the popcorn:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arZdeg_fL-I
Yeah the joke dc staples has a lot of nerve when she was the commander of 12 she worked from home For over two years she was very rarely seen and let that monster from the front office run the district maybe she should be writing. A to from on how she never went to work and answered the radio from home. Yeah promoted way past her level
5/20/2016 05:07:00 AM
Funny, because that wasn't the Commander Staples I worked with. She worked her ass off and even made arrests up in the 20 sector.
She'll soon be a Chief, count on it.
The trick is to know it will end one day. Play the game. When they put heat on you, give them a little. when they are harassing someone else, chill. It's just a job. Make it work FOR YOU.
Zeros for 313 is nothing new. They have had the lowest numbers of any units since 2008.
Rule 3
Any failure to promote the Department’s efforts to implement its policy or accomplish its goals.
Now get to work!
I wouldn't know Staples if she was sitting right next to me. Never really saw that do nothing coward Ryan either. The new way to supervise is nasty emails. No supervisory skills whatsoever for these people. These never put handcuffs on anyone bosses don't have the balls to say anything to anyones face, and they couldn't care less about anything but their six figure pensions and their next promotion. All of the good bosses are long gone. Dig in this summer boys and girls and watch it burn.
Off topic but important-
Another anti-cop article in the Trib, about Cops trading away pay for protection in our contracts. Read it.
Then Please....to all who purchase or subscribe to this liberal bullshit rag of a newspaper.....CANCEL IT.....
Let it die a natural death.....none of the owners/writers live in this shit city....none of them have the contact with the feral citizens of
this city that we have had...they refuse to print the truth about the crime in this city...and who is responsible for it and why! Rarely is there a
physical description of offenders that lists more than age and sex.
So, please cancel your subscriptions.....we all know the feral citizens sure aren't subscribing to it....
OT; Rumor is that CPD is sending personnel to L.A. to learn from the Los Angeles use of force model. Be a gentler, kinder police, where you have to be forcefully attacked and degraded before you can take any initial and basic steps to defend yourself. We are headed towards leftist insanity. This video was shown by European news agencies yesterday. It's a sad world that we must endure to live in;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL1O4pUYJ2w
Stupid teams and their knee pads. I don't understand why you would allow them to create quotas violating state law that is still in effect. TO/FROM about me not violating the law, what a joke. Go ahead stupid meat headed hard chargers keep creating more ideas for boses to make.
And the benefit of being on a SAT Team is?
I'm in a Beat car after years of working on Tact Teams, Gang Teams, Area Gang Teams, and a few other places, and I got to say: I LOVE A BEAT CAR!
I guess if you're afraid of a ghetto domestic or a "fill in the box" traffic accident, then SAT might be the place.
This BS secret quota threats has been going on for years and will continue to go on. It doesn't matter what the Supt. Says or the DOJ ACLU etc. Individual bosses will always press the quota behind closed doors. It's how they move up the ladder to higher pay on the backs of the grunts. It's a "Me Me" department more than ever now. What yourselves guys and make copies just in case.
I really don't think the DOJ cares about quotas. There still is a quota to work OT and it's not a secret. It's in print and available for all to see. Also the performance recognition system is up with color codes for various levels of activity which is how officers are evaluated. This is a very obvious quota which should not be allowed. I'm sure the DOJ has seen this too
Get your information right before posting - obviously every unit has dead weight. As for the personal attacks while she was in 012, you're pretty ignorant for throwing comments about how she worked from home all the time . Talk to the many coppers that she helped out and sat with at their homes and with their families when life wasn't looking so good or worth living BUT that's what you don't hear - all you see is no presence . Tough guy! Enjoy Bubblehead - I'm sure he's doing a much better job than Staples. Sorry you couldn't get what you wanted , but rather hide behind a blog to post comments from your couch. You really want to see commanders all the time while you're at work? No thanks. . Hands down best boss I've ever had the pleasure of working for. Glad to be retired
Old Retired Guy
I did 31 on the job. This is one the most important things you can do> Learn the orders all of them so when the goofs ask you to do something throw an order in their face. Works all of the time. They use the orders to screw you over. You use the orders to politely tell them to stick it in any orifice they choose
Give me 2 parkers and 2 CTA checks. Problem solved!
Gang arrests over 100, now when Toni the moron "we gots too manies black n browns in jail" sees it they will be out by Sunday! Crook county judges already told handlers orders will be obeyed!
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-police-crackdown-on-violence-met-20160520-story.html
The bigger question were the body cameras on? will the lawyers go after coppers? Will the always anti-police media do a news cycle to as usual criticize police?
No matter what tghis is definitely old school policing good job officers!
This is exactly what's wrong with the department. You have exempts that don't know what the hell they are doing. How long was Staples a blue shirt in a district pushing a beat car? Answer: About the same time much of the other exempts were in patrol, in a beat car; want a bet less than 10 years. You have to learn something if you actually do the job that long. Demote some of these A holes already! Save our pensions please!
Patrolmen on this job mean only one thing to these supervisors - a rung on the ladder to promotion. Your "activity" is just another addition to the boss's resume, so the more you do, the better he or she looks. They never ask how you are bringing in your numbers, and they don't want to know. This ignorance shields them from liability later on if/when there are investigations regarding certain practices in that unit. They can claim they had no knowledge you were engaged in unscrupulous behavior and nothing was reported to substantiate such activity. Meanwhile, these supervisors enjoy promotions and/or transfers to more desirable units. Unfortunately, many of these guys will sacrifice their job for jeans, a carhart, and a goatee rather than wear blues and push a beat car, but then again it always comes down to choice.
According to the Suntimes alderman Ray Lopez wants to give homeowners a $200.00 rebate if they installed security cameras but it has to be tied into city system not a bad idea! But the reason is due to police manpower shortage. Oh oh an alderman telling the truth? How many thousands short alderman? But they are blaming the police "pension crisis" so it's all fault alderman? Ask rahm why he just released a secret after crying poor he found millions to built 2 new schools west end of 008? But rahm kept this "secret" our tax money why a secret?
It wasn't from staples - it was from our lieutenant
Staples is cool, she's being forced by Top Dog to say this, she know's well and good
it's all Bull Shit! Remember the Irishman treated her badly, MS remember the top
dog can do the same.
5/20/2016 09:42:00 AM
Get ahold of yourself. She is a Deputy Chief with under 20 years on the job and at least one merit promo under her belt. Treated badly? You are fucking soft.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
According to the Suntimes alderman Ray Lopez wants to give homeowners a $200.00 rebate if they installed security cameras but it has to be tied into city system not a bad idea! But the reason is due to police manpower shortage. Oh oh an alderman telling the truth? How many thousands short alderman? But they are blaming the police "pension crisis" so it's all fault alderman? Ask rahm why he just released a secret after crying poor he found millions to built 2 new schools west end of 008? But rahm kept this "secret" our tax money why a secret?
5/20/2016 05:24:00 PM
Just remember, 'tie into city system' means the city can override what you have your cameras aimed at, so they can aim them at what they want to see at a given point in time. A two hundred dollar rebate, to let them into my cameras? NEVER.
5/20/2016 03:26:00 PM
I agree to a point.As I was taught, "General Orders" were just that.Simply a generalization of guide lines as how to do your job. most included a disclaimer at the end.
my 2 cents.
It's true. The more you do it only makes your supervisors look great. Many bosses get kudos and offered promotions to other units because of YOUR hard work. Bare minimum people and be safe.
"Staples has a lot of nerve, seeing as how she was mia while she was in 12. She used to "work" from home."
Is that any different than your foot post where you "duck out" early and work no more than what?20 hours a week and have weekends off? Quit your Bitchin!!! you're no better you no good do nothing ass kissing whiner waa waa waa waa.
Sounds like YOUR the ass kisser honey!
Staples is good people. I don't know whether or not she sent this email, but the Staples I knew was easy going, honest and friendly. I didn't see her all the time, but I saw her enough. I don't want a micro manager commander showing up to every roll call and telling POs and SGTs exactly where to go, at what time, for how long and what to do. If you're in a unit, you listen to the boss. If you don't want to, leave the unit. Simple
O/T
But Relevant:
Up Rahm's narrow, hypocrite sissy-weasel ass...
Just now on the early news.
Shit-Talking about how TSA is understaffed and
overwhelmed...
MEANWHILE:
CPD is understaffed, overwhelmed
and driven into a corner while enduring high order
agit-prop about a justifiable defensive stance that is
"Concerning."
They wonder why brow-beating and threatening
The Police about generating those intentionally
and fatally flawed, aclu/doj/#blm trick-baggery
laden ISRs - IS NOT WORKING!
Fuck Rahm and fuck these coward-assed bosses
who beat on beat Officers to make THEM look
good at the next exempt Pee-Pee measuring
contest formerly known as compstat.
Nary a real Policeman among these hacks.
Police like you have no friends.
Officer Survival first, foremost and always.
Respond.
Drop a report.
"Dude shot shitless by unidentified dude.
No fucks given. NFI... Notifications as follows:"
Whistle for a wash-down.
Roll to the next one.
Lights & Sirens only
to help each other.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT; Rumor is that CPD is sending personnel to L.A. to learn from the Los Angeles use of force model. Be a gentler, kinder police, where you have to be forcefully attacked and degraded before you can take any initial and basic steps to defend yourself. We are headed towards leftist insanity. This video was shown by European news agencies yesterday. It's a sad world that we must endure to live in;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL1O4pUYJ2w
Is that the Rodney King model they are teaching?
Get your information right before posting - obviously every unit has dead weight. As for the personal attacks while she was in 012, you're pretty ignorant for throwing comments about how she worked from home all the time . Talk to the many coppers that she helped out and sat with at their homes and with their families when life wasn't looking so good or worth living BUT that's what you don't hear - all you see is no presence . Tough guy! Enjoy Bubblehead - I'm sure he's doing a much better job than Staples. Sorry you couldn't get what you wanted , but rather hide behind a blog to post comments from your couch. You really want to see commanders all the time while you're at work? No thanks. . Hands down best boss I've ever had the pleasure of working for. Glad to be retired
*****************************
im pretty certain that not a thing that you said has absolutly nothing to do with her still ordering people to bring in activity or else. Looks like maybe since she started getting promoted she has changed?? Thanks for your rant, but it still does not change the way she is acting towards blue shirts. sorry, but your love affair with her is meaningless here. Obviously she used to look out for people when you knew here retired tuff guy, but now shes looking out for her
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This is exactly what's wrong with the department. You have exempts that don't know what the hell they are doing. How long was Staples a blue shirt in a district pushing a beat car? Answer: About the same time much of the other exempts were in patrol, in a beat car; want a bet less than 10 years. You have to learn something if you actually do the job that long. Demote some of these A holes already! Save our pensions please!
5/20/2016 04:48:00 PM
10 years!? More like less than 10 months.
FOIA all you want. Staples never emailed any of this to us or said any of this to us. It was our Lieutenant and per him, it was his edict from him and not per Staples. The gang officer who wrote this is a cry baby who wants to come to work for their 10.5 hour day with 3 and 4 days off in a row each week and do nothing and get paid. Enjoy your return to patrol cry baby. I will think of you on my 3rd and 4th day off every week.
Forward a copy of that email right to the DOJ abs ACLU. That's how you deal with that bullshit. Those quota days are over.
BULLSHIT GET IT RIGHT
UPDATE it wasnt the Deputy Chief at all! The jag-off UNIT C.O. of 313 that wrote the email to his Sgts left on a xerox machine yeah right willis wah wah cry
And be sure to drop a yellow slip for the overtime if this demand is made at the end of your tour.
Ha almost pissed my pants reading this
Time to change the pampers
Same type of pseudo threatening message was communicated yesterday in 011.
A certain Sgt basically warned 2nd watch MANAGEMENT peeps, that if they don't start upping their ISR production, their former watch awaits.
Aint that some shit?
Patrolmen on this job mean only one thing to these supervisors - a rung on the ladder to promotion. Your "activity" is just another addition to the boss's resume, so the more you do, the better he or she looks. They never ask how you are bringing in your numbers, and they don't want to know. This ignorance shields them from liability later on if/when there are investigations regarding certain practices in that unit. They can claim they had no knowledge you were engaged in unscrupulous behavior and nothing was reported to substantiate such activity. Meanwhile, these supervisors enjoy promotions and/or transfers to more desirable units. Unfortunately, many of these guys will sacrifice their job for jeans, a carhart, and a goatee rather than wear blues and push a beat car, but then again it always comes down to choice.
BEST POST YET!!!!! Everyone please read the above, read it again, the re-read it. End of story. Stop being scared and acting like sacrificial lambs because you are afraid to lose your spot. If you can bring in legitimate activity and you are still up to doing it ..... Good for you, but don't put yourself in a trick bag just to make a boss look good. At the end of the day, YOU are left have to justify your reasoning not anyone else. Remember almost everything we do now is being captured on surveillance cameras or cell phone videos. You do have a choice.
Any of you have a DOJ do a ride-along? I did. And one of the questions they asked us was if any supervisor ever pressured us to write contact cards (ISRs) or make arrests and such. Trust me they're interested. VRI requirements are like qualifications for a job or assignment and have nothing to do with producing "numbers" for numbers sake. I think the DOJ is going to have a field day fucking with CPD and so are the shyster lawyers now that Rahm and the city have admitted there is a code of silence at CPD. We'll be paying out millions and millions of taxpayer money on that stupid statement, especially if they get him on the record in court. Didn't any Corp Counsel vet that statement? Any now there is a systematic attack on our union protections. Things here are goin g to get a lot worse before getting better. Hold on for a very rough summer. Protect each other and yourself.
Anonymous said...
FOIA all you want. Staples never emailed any of this to us or said any of this to us. It was our Lieutenant and per him, it was his edict from him and not per Staples. The gang officer who wrote this is a cry baby who wants to come to work for their 10.5 hour day with 3 and 4 days off in a row each week and do nothing and get paid. Enjoy your return to patrol cry baby. I will think of you on my 3rd and 4th day off every week.
5/20/2016 11:00:00 PM
Yes, and because you can't read between the lines...it came from HER! Get it? THAT'S what the higher-up do. They tell the dopes below them to do what they have to do to make THEM look good!
Anonymous said...
Get your information right before posting - obviously every unit has dead weight. As for the personal attacks while she was in 012, you're pretty ignorant for throwing comments about how she worked from home all the time . Talk to the many coppers that she helped out and sat with at their homes and with their families when life wasn't looking so good or worth living BUT that's what you don't hear - all you see is no presence . Tough guy! Enjoy Bubblehead - I'm sure he's doing a much better job than Staples. Sorry you couldn't get what you wanted , but rather hide behind a blog to post comments from your couch. You really want to see commanders all the time while you're at work? No thanks. . Hands down best boss I've ever had the pleasure of working for. Glad to be retired
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im pretty certain that not a thing that you said has absolutly nothing to do with her still ordering people to bring in activity or else. Looks like maybe since she started getting promoted she has changed?? Thanks for your rant, but it still does not change the way she is acting towards blue shirts. sorry, but your love affair with her is meaningless here. Obviously she used to look out for people when you knew here retired tuff guy, but now shes looking out for her
5/20/2016 10:10:00 PM
And that's the truth!
Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT; Rumor is that CPD is sending personnel to L.A. to learn from the Los Angeles use of force model. Be a gentler, kinder police, where you have to be forcefully attacked and degraded before you can take any initial and basic steps to defend yourself. We are headed towards leftist insanity. This video was shown by European news agencies yesterday. It's a sad world that we must endure to live in;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL1O4pUYJ2w
NOT a rumor, truth. Academy Sgt flew out the other day to "learn" from them. All you hard chargers, keep it up. You are digging your own graves.
Anonymous said...
Staples is cool, she's being forced by Top Dog to say this, she know's well and good
it's all Bull Shit! Remember the Irishman treated her badly, MS remember the top
dog can do the same.
5/20/2016 09:42:00 AM
Get ahold of yourself. She is a Deputy Chief with under 20 years on the job and at least one merit promo under her belt. Treated badly? You are fucking soft.
5/20/2016 06:47:00 PM
At least one...
Geez plenty of of po's that never had a arrest are bosses and have better spots than me.
Hey bosses we know your career activity, just because u were King of anov doesnt make u a great worker.
"Get ahold of yourself. She is a Deputy Chief with under 20 years on the job and at least one merit promo under her belt. Treated badly? You are fucking soft.
5/20/2016 06:47:00 PM"
Better to be soft than fucking Stupid, she came on 91, going on 26 years. Spend time in Patrol, was well liked in Area 4 as a Sgt.& Lt. Can't speak for her now, guarantee one thing she's no worthless pos triple merit Coward like Barb West is.
1127X said...
Same type of pseudo threatening message was communicated yesterday in 011.
A certain Sgt basically warned 2nd watch MANAGEMENT peeps, that if they don't start upping their ISR production, their former watch awaits.
Aint that some shit?
5/21/2016 07:27:00 AM
Ha!!! that would never happen in 012, seems the little blonde sgt runs the watch, not the dc , not the lt. matter of fact more than half of those mgnt ( with NO TIME ON THE JOB) get the preferential treatment there.. fuck anyone who is not above 22,25 years on the job. The mgmnt people get treated like the 25 year veterans should. what a crock a shit... Karma is a bitch and that too will bite them in the ass( fat asses at that)
Instead of begging for activity why not get rid of these useless units?
We can't even man beat cars get rid of these pointless units. Send these 2 year wonders back to the district. Work a full tour and learn how to cut paper.
It said nothing about a required amount it was basically splain what you do for ten hours if you gots no activity
I understand if you work a beat car and don't want to do any proactive police work. Answer your radio and back guys up, that's fine. But why so many haters about guys still doing work? I do it legally, lawfully and love it. Jumping out on corners is 100% over but I'll be damned if you condemn me for doing my job. It is BLUE vs crime! Not BLUE vs BLUE. We don't have to like what the left has installed in our policing(ISR), don't forget what we mean to society. We are the ones who runs towards the problem! Be smart and absolutely be careful today. Back each other up so WE all go home safe. Blessed are the peacekeepers for they are gods children.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I wouldn't know Staples if she was sitting right next to me. Never really saw that do nothing coward Ryan either. The new way to supervise is nasty emails. No supervisory skills whatsoever for these people. These never put handcuffs on anyone bosses don't have the balls to say anything to anyones face, and they couldn't care less about anything but their six figure pensions and their next promotion. All of the good bosses are long gone. Dig in this summer boys and girls and watch it burn.
5/20/2016 01:34:00 PM
Well I do know Staples. Worked for her in 012 as a beat officer. Anyone bitching about her from her time in 012 has got to be a dogass. If you were a worker, you got no grief from her. I do know that a certain former alderman candidate and current Sgt would lie and say she told him to do something to make the PO pissed at her instead of him, little prick that he was and still is.
wheres your name?
No supervisory skills whatsoever for these people. These never put handcuffs on anyone bosses don't have the balls to say anything to anyones face
NOT a rumor, truth. Academy Sgt flew out the other day to "learn" from them. All you hard chargers, keep it up. You are digging your own graves.
5/21/2016 10:26:00 AM
LAPD spent 10 years under DOJ investigation and everything they do is a result of that. So, if you want to know what CPD will look like in a few years, LAPD is the model. I can see why we are sending folks over there. I just hope they also copy the promotion system of LAPD without all of the merit bs.
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