Do Something! Anything!
Such is the screeching from the left following the terror attack in Orlando. In fact, it took the media all of a day to get all the talking points lined up, leading to quite a bit of confusion as to what lies they should tell and what facts they should conceal:
- The shooter was muslim - he called 911 and pledged his rampage to ISIS. He attended a radicalized mosque. His father ran a cable access talk show where he opined all sorts of anti-American rhetoric. But none of this had anything to do with the shooting according to the media, despite the fact that islam preaches hatred and slaughter of alternative lifestyle individuals. Obama gave a whole speech and never once mentioned "radicalized islam." They have now uncovered stories that the shooter was a frequent patron of the nightclub;
- Bad NRA Bad! Despite the fact that this guy passed a background check, AND even with numerous instances of spousal abuse AND with threats that led to two FBI investigations, the NRA is somehow to blame. Here's a bright idea - since the system instituted by liberals failed at every turn, and we have yet to see an NRA member implicated in a mass casualty event, why not let the NRA run background checks? They seem to know what they're doing.
- Ban something! Quick! The media is in full attack mode, spouting all sorts of lies about "fully automatic" AR-15's being the most dangerous weapon since the A-Bomb and how can America let such a high-powered weapon be bought and sold on the streets! The AR-15 is a notoriously under-powered rifle and crappy for hunting any sort of large game. It's a varmint rifle - things about the size of coyotes mostly. It is generally agreed the ballistics tend to be "unpredictable." It also wasn't used in the Orlando attack - rendering everything the media has been saying for two days now a bunch of knee-jerk reactionary lies. The rifle used was a Sig Sauer MCX carbine, which is about as incompatible with an AR platform as you can get, but why let the truth get in the way of a Big Media Lie?
Here's a handy guide for our media trolls:
Bad laws affect only the law abiding and do nothing to stop criminals. Kind of like Prickwrinkle and Dart emptying the jail and Anita bargaining down sentences to under half of what's written in to the Illinois Compiled Statutes.
Labels: gun issues
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
62 Comments:
I am through with liberals. Go take your misguided notions and walk straight east until your hat floats AND DON'T EVER COME BACK.
A gay Muslim terrorist. This is like a dream applicant for an Obama cabinet position. Or the next superintendent
There was no law passed by congress to ban the sale of ammonium nitrate, Tovex, nitromethane, ANFO, 55 gallon drums, shock tubes, and blasting caps after the Oklahoma City bombing - 168 dead and more than 680 wounded.
There was no law passed by congress to ban the sale of box cutters after 9/11 - 2,996 dead people and more than 6,000 wounded.
There was no law passed by congress to ban the sale of small airplanes after a small plane was intentional flown into the Internal Revenue Service office building in Austin Texas - 1 dead.
There was no law passed by congress to ban the sale of a FN 5.7 pistol after Fort Hood - 13 dead and countless wounded.
There was no law passed by congress to ban the sale of pressure cookers after the Boston Marathon - 3 dead and 264 wounded.
There was no law passed by congress to ban the sale of knifes after the Oklahoma beheading - 1 dead and 1 wounded.
But shoot someone with a semi-automatic rifle style AR-15 or similar rifle and every demorat and those who support them want to ban the purchase of those rifles and re-institute the Assault Weapon Ban of 1994.
When the Orlando Terrorist Attack happened the Media was its a Hate crime because gays were the target,ISIS is a hate group everthing they do is filled with hate.
Trump is proposing concrete actions.
How to get this to conservatives?? Tell the lies told and the believers believe. Stupid is that stupid does. Where is the mountain side??
How many bled out in the club during three hours OPD negotiated with the jihadi scumbag?
Looked at 3 times and it didn't register with the Feds. What the hell. What is wrong with America? Where is our intelligence? Fools, Fools, Fools. How much to buy those jobs?
The MCX and the AR15 shoot the same bullets and use the same magazines, so why argue semantics. It makes no difference.
The bottom line that all the gun grabbers and anti-gunners need to comprehend is this. If you are ever confronted by an armed attacker or attackers, you are probably going to die. The police will not be there to save you. The police won't get there in time to save you. It's already too late for you once the shooting has started.
Either arm up and defend your own life, or die as an unarmed victim. The cavalry is not coming. You are on your own.
Forty nine dead. Forty nine.
A bad month for Chicago in three hours.
Be Alert. Be Careful.
It probably won't happen here.
But if it does, Go in Hard, Go in Shooting.
Stop them before they can kill forty nine people.
No connex here. Shooter's dad was actively working on becoming the next head of Afghanistan -- working with Taliban in camo suit while appearing in halls of White House in suit and tie, schmoozing with officials there.
Fk Rahm and Obama snakes
While everyone in the public eye points "this way"
The evil will enter from the other side.
Be safe if not vigilant.
Prince Valium
I think if the no guns allowed sign was bigger this would never have happened.
They also don't mention he left his Security handgun from the security company hired by Jeh Johnson, Obama's Homeland Security Guru.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.....humor/satire induced large phart.....disgusted wife (thank you)......more ha ha ha........ Thanks, I needed that.
Stay fetal
The real hero in the attack was the copper working at the club who engaged the shooter initially and apparently forced hi to retreat. It takes real balls to go up against a shooter with a rifle while only having a pistol yourself
If that item on the bottom left corner of the chart isn't claimed, please let me know.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Actually, the 556 sucks as a combat round.
Ok, I don't want bad laws. But why would not selling guns to people on the no fly list be a bad law? Seems kind of a no brainer. Do you want people on the no fly list to have guns? And wouldn't it make your life easier if there was a better paper trail about who had guns? A database of crimes guns have been used in? Instead of insulting people, why not try to work together to make some real change? That's more work, I know. Much easier to blame and name call, so have at it. But I like you SCC, I want you to rise to the occasion.
OK, that handy guide is hilarious.
The FBI. Accountants with 9 mm's. I remember reading in the Tribune 6 months after the WTC attack, that the FBI locked up 10 members of the Gambino crime family in Brooklyn NY for bookmaking. Ray Charles could find 10 members of the Gambino crime family in Brooklyn, how about locking up some Islamic terrorists. ♠️
The FBI dropped the ball. They are to busy looking for cops to burn.
These big thinkers don't get it... Criminals don't play by any rules
www.assaultweapon.info lays it out very well.
Not that facts and truth matter to the media and progressives with an agenda.
Anonymous said...
Ok, I don't want bad laws. But why would not selling guns to people on the no fly list be a bad law? Seems kind of a no brainer. Do you want people on the no fly list to have guns? And wouldn't it make your life easier if there was a better paper trail about who had guns? A database of crimes guns have been used in? Instead of insulting people, why not try to work together to make some real change? That's more work, I know. Much easier to blame and name call, so have at it. But I like you SCC, I want you to rise to the occasion.
Ted Kennedy was on the No Fly List. It's just too bad that we couldn't retroactively stop him from owning a car as that would have undoubtedly saved at least 1 life.
Ok, I don't want bad laws. But why would not selling guns to people on the no fly list be a bad law? Seems kind of a no brainer. Do you want people on the no fly list to have guns? And wouldn't it make your life easier if there was a better paper trail about who had guns? A database of crimes guns have been used in? Instead of insulting people, why not try to work together to make some real change? That's more work, I know. Much easier to blame and name call, so have at it. But I like you SCC, I want you to rise to the occasion.
For your "no fly list" question, here's your answer - http://www.fed-soc.org/blog/detail/no-fly-no-buy-and-no-due-process.
Go read it all. Once you read it, respond. Realize that the Constitution is there for a reason and once you start disregarding the portions you don't like, you're on a road that leads to revolution, civil disorder, guerilla war, terror, star chambers, gulags, gas chambers. Oh, maybe not right away, maybe not in your lifetime. But you want to leave that type of world to your kids?
As for databases, there are already hundreds of databases. The FBI has huge ones of all sorts of guns. They do nothing except provide some pencil pusher a reason to print out more "studies" and make colored graphs and cute charts for politicos to misinterpret and confused the issue. The legally owned guns aren't the problem so what would your "paper trail" do except provide a road map to people who want to steal (or confiscate) guns? Your "paper trail" doesn't track stolen guns or straw bought guns or people willing to work outside the law. It's pointless and a waste of money.
Maryland just scrapped their entire "bullet fingerprint" database. For years, Maryland required every gun sold to undergo a ballistic test and the bullet was kept on file to match it to any future crimes. Hundreds of thousands of man hours and millions of dollars in salary, data entry, storage, etc and how many crimes in Maryland were solved with this? Zero. Not the rate of return liberals were looking for.
And finally, we are doing something about it. Every one of our children knows how to use a handgun, shotgun and rifle. A few hunt. One is old enough for Concealed Carry. If the evil that exists comes knocking on their door, they won't be cowering in a bathroom hoping that someone else with a gun comes to save them. We'll tell them to keep an eye out for you, too.
oh-oh, I found this on the Sig Webpage for the MCX: ....
----- AR-Style, Ambidextrous Control -----
>>> No retraining required. The SIG MCX features a familiar, AR-style ambidextrous selector, bolt release, magazine release and charging handle. <<<<
That's all the Lyin' Leftists need is ONE teeny reference to an AR to validate their ignorant bullshit. So I wouldn't be surprised that one 'journalist' will do some checking and go; 'AH-HA! Gotcha ya gun loving rubes! It says AR, so how dare you mock us!'
btw, Speaking of ignorant journalists, remember Laurie Dhue of Fox News. She was one of the blonde info babes who would give afternoon news updates. Well one day a few years back there was a mass shooting -- sorry can't recall particulars -- and one of the first things out of er pretty puffed-up lips was that the shooter used an AR-15 style Shotgun. I am NOT kidding, an AR-15 style Shotgun, I almost fell off my chair. Naturally it turns out that the gun used was a regular pump action shotgun.
In case some are thinking, 'Saiga', this happened BEFORE Saiga Shotguns were imported to the USA, the only shotgun that comes close looks wise to an AR, so a Saiga it couldn't have been. I was on Century Arms email list, who was the sole importer & seller of Saiga Shotguns and recall first seeing them advertised for sale -- to your local FFL. (another Lefty Lie, that No FFL BG Check over the Internet bullshit!) Oh and naturally, asshole Obama banned the import of any more Saigas.
ps: If you're wondering what happened to Laurie Dhue, she 'quit' Fox News due to a drinking problem. She admitted she was an Alcoholic and was plastered many times while on Air. She's sober now and was working for Glenn Beck's Blaze News team last I saw her.
Well said my friend! How's that War on The Police working out for you liberals. better make friends with the Evil coming to you're door because we are done! Hope and Change you can count on!!!
The DOJ has been instructed by the head Muslim to only investigate policemen, and white separatist types. Doesn't leave much time for the real problem.
Whether or not we should have laws limiting the purchase of heavy weaponry, I refuse to have that discussion until we stop ignoring the elephant in the room. We did not suffer any further al queda attacks during the Bush years because he brought the fight to them. This moron won't fight Isis over there which has emboldened them here.
Worst leader ever, period
Speaking of worst leaders it took Eddie Johnson all of five seconds to strip the officer in the video yesterday although he would have done the same thing given the circumstances. Please for the love of god stop doing proactive work. For your own good. It's not to punish the city. It's for your own good
"Ok, I don't want bad laws. But why would not selling guns to people on the no fly list be a bad law? Seems kind of a no brainer. Do you want people on the no fly list to have guns? And wouldn't it make your life easier if there was a better paper trail about who had guns? A database of crimes guns have been used in? Instead of insulting people, why not try to work together to make some real change? That's more work, I know."
Generally, the no-fly list thing sounds like a good idea. The problem is in the details. A faceless bureaucrat somewhere makes an arbitrary decision based on unknown criteria and poof! You're on a no-fly list. You may not even be aware of it until you attempt to fly somewhere or try to purchase a gun. Worse, there is no appeals process by which you can appeal your case and attempt to be removed from the list. Years can be spent trying to be get off the list. From a practical standpoint, at least so far, it's nearly impossible. During which time your Second Amendment rights are gone. Hence the opposition.
As usual, the media made a big deal out of the opposition to the no-fly list/guns issue, but in most cases conveniently forgot to mention why.
Obama's IRS targeted conservative non-profits. It's not unreasonable to think that a no-fly list could be similarly abused.
As far as a paper trail of who has what, do you honestly believe that it would lead to the gang banger on the street corner? What you are suggesting is registration. Historically, in other countries every time registration has been required it has been a precursor to confiscation. Some years ago NYC called for "voluntary" registration of guns. "Just to know who has what," they promised. A couple years later the city demanded that anyone who registered turn in their guns.
So much for truth in advertising.
The anti-gun side will do anything to further their agenda. A few years ago, they coined a new term, "assault weapon," to intentionally mislead the public into believing that semi-automatic guns should be banned. That led to the Assault Weapon Ban of 1994. It expired in 2004, having demonstrated no statistical effect on gun deaths.
Their latest meme seems to be demonizing the NRA and its members, as if they're somehow responsible for criminal misuse of guns. Nevermind that nearly 100,000 members recently gathered in Louisville for a multi-day convention, many of them carrying concealed, without a single incident of criminal misuse of a gun. It was a statistical miracle. (That's sarcasm, BTW.)
A few on the anti side are honest enough to candidly reveal their true goals: An outright ban on civilian gun ownership in the US. The vehicle is "reasonable gun control." "Incremental gun control."
Nope. Ain't buying it. Guns are the targets of progressives because they refuse to demand the social reforms that would reduce crime. Because that would require calling out certain behaviors as being "bad." And this is something progressives simply will not do.
You want to push on someone, go push on them
6/14/2016 07:25:00 AM || Anonymous Anonymous said.....
..... But why would not selling guns to people on the no fly list be a bad law? Seems kind of a no brainer. Do you want people on the no fly list to have guns? And wouldn't it make your life easier if there was a better paper trail about who had guns? ...."
A) The No Fly List
--- 1) The people on the No Fly List have NOT been convicted of any crime. Hell, they haven't even been charged or arrested for a crime.
--- 2) Who is on that No Fly List? Nobody knows because its a SECRET LIST!
--- 3) How do you get on the No Fly List? Well, sorry, we can't tell you as that's a SECRET TOO!!
--- 4) Exactly WHO puts you on the No Fly List? Well, the FBI -- 'maybe'. And MAYBE it's some faceless fucking bureaucrat in some 3rd Sub-Basement of a FedGov Bldg who is 'only following orders'.
--- 5) How do you get OFF the No Fly List once you're on it, YOU CAN'T!! You're on it forever! And you don't know why! Does calling Obama an asshole get you on it? Could be.
Now if the people on the No Fly List are so goddamn dangerous then ARREST THEM! Charge them with a crime. Deport them, DO SOMETHING LEGAL! If not, take them off the fucking list! (if anyone believes that the FedGov is following the laws & rules pertaining to No Fly List then I have this Pink Unicorn to sell them)
Secret Lists are Un-American. Secret lists are loved by tyrannical governments. Nazi Germany's Gestapo and SD, the Soviet Union's NKVD & KGB, Communist East Germany's STASI all had and used their Secret Lists (along with every other Communist country). North Korea and Communist China has their lists today.
B) People on the No Fly List having guns
--- 1) If they haven't broken and aren't convicted of any prohibitive laws then YES, they have the same RIGHTS as you do. (That's the end of this, period.)
C) A 'Paper Trail' of Gun Owners
--- 1) Call it what you want but that's REGISTRATION.
--- 2) In every country where Guns were registered, that registration led to CONFISCATION.
--- 3) In every country where the Citizens were unarmed. It was the Government who did the mass killing and slaughtering. It was the Government's Guns that the people had to fear.
We are either America or we aren't. We are either a Free People or we aren't. And sorry, but the fact is that Freedom comes with risks. And I vote for Risk over an oppressive government, that promises safety. Safety it can't provide.
But why would not selling guns to people on the no fly list be a bad law?
As has been said elsewhere, yeah, people being investigated by the FBI are super sketchy people. Best to suspend ALL their constitutional rights, just to be sure.
Like Hillary Clinton, for instance.
Let me sell weed and I am jammed up up unable to work. Fbi dropped this one. Does not matter what category. By the time he got pass the guard it was all over. Terrible ducking story.
SCC, your response to the liberal lurker was a Knockout Slapdown Smackdown!!!
Thaaaank Youuuuuu!!!!
Careful with that "it's incompatible with an AR-15." It's actually very compatible. In fact, I can buy the MCX upper and barrel, and it mates exactly with my AR. It's considered an upgrade of an AR.
Oh man, I'm still pi$$ing in my pants after looking over that 'Media Guide' - outstanding!
This guy used the terrorist angle to hide the fact that he was gay. He's no terrorist. And let's see if the terrorism groups continue to claim him since it's been revealed he was gay. Allah won't be welcoming him with open arms.
as far as CNN is concerned its a mass shooting with a assault weapon and mental illness?. whats missing hear? terror attack, muslim, radicalized, terrorism, etc. and Hilary will not say those words. trump called her on it!
Orlando: Hillary this is Orlando we need help. send help!!
Hillary: hangs up.
Touche' SCC!!! Well said, as usual. Tell the mofo to STFU!!!
Muslim. Anchor baby. Registered democrat. Homosexual. Blame? Guns, white people, the NRA, the patriarchy, fluouride....
The Feds missed all this?? Father, wife, trips to the Middle East, ramblings at work for a Homeland Security Contractor, Feds checked him out 3 times...what the frig?? Yuck. Useless. How much did the 'Checkers' at the Feds donate to politicians to get their jobs. NOTE to Feds:...do you know a moose from a giraffe, do you recognize a bird from a flower? Moral of story to the Feds is if it walks like a duck then its a damn duck. We are screwed. Nit-whits are running everything.
Rahm Emanuel, Mayor, Cityof Chicago cries out and supports the LGBT community in the wake of the Orlando Terror strike.
And he should out of respect for all lives. He floods the LGBT community with added patrols and depletes other police districts to accomplish the perception. That's not a plan, it's a political opportunity.
In Chicago we have yet to have this type of incident occur.
Rather, we have a collective mass execution every month perpetrated by what the City & Dept call 1400 known subjects (urban terrorists). Forty or more dead a month.
Murders of almost 300 so far this year and Rahm has not been able to do a thing about it, except stifle police actions then point and blame the evil, ill-trained police for community dysfunction.
Democrats and Rahm call for gun bans and stricter laws.
We have them.
Chicago Democrats refuse to enforce them.
It won't be long before Chicago will be the next CNN (Clinton News Network) mass act of terror headline.
And Mayor Emanuel will once again cry out for justice as he and other pols sit on their hands and blast their mouths.
Time for a moment of silence... then off to a Democratic political fund raising event.
How touching.
And finally, we are doing something about it. Every one of our children knows how to use a handgun, shotgun and rifle. A few hunt. One is old enough for Concealed Carry. If the evil that exists comes knocking on their door, they won't be cowering in a bathroom hoping that someone else with a gun comes to save them. We'll tell them to keep an eye out for you, too.
EXCELLENT response SCC!! I couldn't have said it better myself!! Thank you!!
Guess police are in demand again, off duty at the rate they want to pay, sorry keep it that is not even the regular wage, unless I can get a post and watch dvd, I make more working straight time at cta and better job!
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-mccormick-place-off-duty-police-met-20160614-story.html
this place makes hundreds of millions and not going to be a shill for this!
These stupid liberal tits are running around in circles
over this...
"GUNS! GUNS! GUNS we say!"
"Let's legislate an inanimate object instead
of addressing the bad behavior of a bad actor
grown in the fertile soil of a bad and savage
7th Century culture steeped in revenge and
resentment that nods approvingly at
savage-assed outbursts like this.
I'm OK with Singapore, New York City gun laws and policies.
New York City under Mayor Guliani and NYPD chiefs Bratton and Kelly enforced laws against carrying unlicensed hand guns - stop and frisk.
The punks learned that they couldn't do what they do in Chicago now - carry unlicensed hand guns and murder and mayhem was reduced by ~ 80% under Guliani from what it was under Dinkins.
The Libertarian NRA anything pretty much goes with guns just doesn't work where there are populations of angry Muslims, Black criminal underclass.
Sure the Swiss can have citizens own military rifles - but our population ain't Swiss.
Afghan, Somalian, Algerian, Pakistani Muslims just shouldn't be here - they do terrible things wherever they go from Orlando Florida to Rotherham England to Malmo Sweden.
They have bad genes, they tend to marry their cousins.
Donald Trump is right so are the immigration restrictionist populist parties in Western Europe. The idiot PC cultural marxist Left double downs and lies that Muslim immigrant/migrants are "victims" of intolerance and racism and really should be on the same side with Lib Left Gays, LGBT.
It's best to just chuck all this nonsense and instead be realistic and do things like yeah, spy on Muslims, enact Japanese type immigration restrictions.
This #*$&@ doesn't happen in Japan.
One of the survivors, a young female, was at a press conference earlier today and kept talking about the "machine gun" that he was using.
Most people in this country see a semi auto that looks like an M-16, it immediately becomes a fully automatic weapon. And the media does nothing to correct this misperception.
Does this incident some how put a stain on potus plan on having all police depts under federal oversight bc the next thing the media will come up with is that a nypd officer ws involved because of the shirt.
"Ok, I don't want bad laws. But why would not selling guns to people on the no fly list be a bad law? Seems kind of a no brainer. Do you want people on the no fly list to have guns?"
I thank you for asking the question, and the answer is: the 5th and 14th Amendments to the Constitution. Due Process, baby. The government can't infringe on a Constitutional right without a hell of a lot of due process. A secret list, populated by bureaucrats, that you can't even know if you're on, without any appeals process to get off, lacking any discerning criteria such as probable cause (which is nowhere near enough to deprive a citizen of their rights under the Constitution), is actually the hands-down polar opposite of due process. Furthermore, once the gov't starts infringing on one Constitutional right, only a fool would expect the rest to remain intact.
If it's at least a comment about being on no fly list or investigated and not outright ban during that 5 dollar phone call, I would use my intuition as to wether or not to sell. I don't have to sell anyone anything. Gunshops deny people everyday anyway.
Most people in this country see a semi auto that looks like an M-16, it immediately becomes a fully automatic weapon. And the media does nothing to correct this misperception.
6/14/2016 02:33:00 PM
The media make no effort to learn the difference between a cap gun, a bb gun, a semi-auto handgun, a rifle, a shotgun, a water pistol, or those many 'variations' lol of the AR-15 out there. They run with whatever nonsense a passerby utters.
Gun registration = gun confiscation
That is Hitlarys' and the demoncrats goal
Let me paraphrase a line from Wyatt Earp in "Tombstone"
"You may get my gun but not before I turn your head into a canoe"
Go ahead Gov'mint try takin' it
"You're a daisy if ya do" (Doc)
FBI is retrieving and comparing slugs from the victims to see if anyone was shot by the off duty copper.
Wow!
The UN is calling for gun removal measures in US:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=m3PDBhtVbl8
How about, this is not an attack on a subset of the population, but a terrorist attack on the United States.
Fuck them all!
Hmmmm...how could firearms be effectively banned? What if the government started a list that was secret and only they knew the members. Then, they preclude everyone on that list from firearms ownership or possession. A list that has no due process and no appeal, in fact one doesn't even know they've been placed on the list.
Yeah, right. "Why can't the no fly list be used to prevent guns, its just common sense."
"The Feds missed all this??" My guess is the Feds have had all of that "sensitivity training" and are now too brainwashed with PC-BS to be able to call a spade a spade (this is not racist, but go ahead somebody, be offended.)
And as for new laws, might I add that the nightclub Pulse was a "gun-free zone." Clearly, that rule was effective!
This guy goes to a club he has frequented in the past, knows the layout, pledges to ISIS, and still the media is playing the anti gay narrative? So if this was just a every day heterosexual club that this guy frequented and pledged allegiance to ISIS it would be terror? Or would it be domestic violence? Why is our Judeo-Christian government so adamant to not name radical Islam as the problem.
Here. Somebody DID do something.
Incredible footage emerges of the moment hero student safety monitor bravely tackles and disarms the Seattle Pacific University shooter
* One student was killed and two other students were injured when Aaron Ybarra, 27, opened fire [with a shotgun] at Seattle Pacific University on June 5, 2014
* The King County Prosecutor's Office released surveillance footage of the shooting on Tuesday for the first time
* It shows the moment hero student Jon Meis tackles Ybarra, stopping him
* Meis also pepper sprayed Ybarra and held him until police arrived
* Another student helped Meis hold Ybarra down [as Ybarra came out with a knife]
"Surveillance video from a 2014 shooting at Seattle Pacific University was released on Tuesday, showing a student pepper-spraying an alleged shooter, seizing his gun and detaining him.
"Three minutes of the footage shows the take-down of a 27-year-old Aaron Ybarra, who has pleaded not guilty to murder and other charges in the case.
"The footage shows the moment Jon Meis, a student safety monitor, heroically tackles Ybarra to the ground and manages to wrangle the shotgun out of his hands.
"Meis can be seen running into the lobby, approaching Ybarra from behind.
"As he enters the room and charges Ybarra, Meis sprays Ybarra with what police have said was pepper spray. Ybarra falls to the floor as Meis grapples with him. Meis then disarms Ybarra and runs out of the room with the weapon.
"Ybarra is seen rolling on the floor as Meis reenters the room and tackles Ybarra again as Ybarra struggles to pull out a knife. A male student comes down the stairs and walks over to Meis and Ybarra, kicking away the knife and helping Meis hold Ybarra down.
"Police say Ybarra killed one male student outside before entering the building. Police said pellets from that shot also injured another student..."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3643406/Incredible-footage-emerges-moment-student-safety-monitor-bravely-tackles-disarms-Seattle-Pacific-University-shooter.html
Terrorists don't need Ed's Gun Store. I have seen photographs of the results of four or five U.S. Navy stop-and-searches of "fishing boats" headed from Iran to Yemen. Ever seen 2,000 or 3,000 AK-47s in a pile? Not to mention the magazines, the ammo, the RPGs and ammo for them...and that was just one load. This ComBloc stuff is as common as dirt, to the point that any eight-year-old in the Third World can get hold of something.
Some storefront "mosque" -- with the police outside guarding it from possible "hate crimes," yet -- is going to get a load like this in through our porous borders, disperse it around the country to cells of their fellow murderers, and then you will REALLY see something.
They have found messes of hair in airport bathrooms lately; the jihadis have been shaving off their beards to fit in better, and there is good intel on a crew headed for Belgium right now to conduct further attacks. Fancy shopping malls in South Africa are also on the "soft target" list.
The trained, crazy Russian "football hooligans" were able to get stuff like 37mm maritime distress flares through "security" and into the stadium for the latest game with England; shooting the things off at the Brits across the way. This is the kind of thing you let go if the Titanic is going down or something. There is way more to come...
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