That's the Purpose of Jail
- Inmates at the Cook County Jail served more than 200 years’ worth of unnecessary time behind bars last year thanks to an overworked criminal justice system.
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The wait for a case to reach conviction can be so long that many of the jail’s inmates serve more time in Cook County than they are eventually sentenced to spend in prison, what’s known as “dead days.” For instance, if an inmate is convicted to 100 days in state prison, and spends 300 days in Cook County waiting for their case to reach conviction, they will have served 200 dead days.
Last year, inmates served 79,726 dead days at a cost of $143 per person per day in 2015. In other words, people spent 218 years’ worth of unnecessary time in jail at a cost of $11 million to taxpayers.
For the most part, we aren't talking about people who were actually contributing to society. At least the inmates weren't on the street stealing, raping, killing on their own. Is the media finally going to put a price tag on what a sense of safety is worth? What it means to not be robbed? Burglarized? Violated? Killed?
Because once they figure out that cost, maybe we can start policing by numbers that mean something to Rahm - money.
Because once they figure out that cost, maybe we can start policing by numbers that mean something to Rahm - money.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
49 Comments:
Im all for jailing assholes. However they have to be convicted and sentenced. I know judges dont sentence long enough, but Im against hosing a guy for 300 days wen he only owes 100. Unless he can get credit for it to use on his next arrest. You know what I mean
Not really dead days. The time spent in custody is used a part of the plea agreement tool. They should be sentenced to longer time in prison. Misleading reporting once again.
I'm sure all these honor students if they were not serving dead days,they would have been
a)in school studying to become doctors
b)gainfully employed
c)working with the underprivileged
d)serving humanity in some other way
e)taking the CPD entrance exam
The waste of these fine lives. If only Toni Preckwinkle or Tom Dart could do something to save them!
Boo hoo for them. Consider it justice for all the shit that they did where they didn't get caught.
Tom Dart talks about Non Violent Inmates that take up most of the Jail Space. But he Fails to mention the 25 Officers and Two Sergeants beaten by his Inmates with the last month. In fact a Paramedic from CFD mentioned to the Commander. We use to respond to inmates that needed Medical Attention. But now we are taking huge amounts of Officers out to the hospital for Medical Treatment. What really is upsetting is Seeing Tom Dart, Arne Duncan, And Steve Jobs Wife at the jail today telling the Inmates they are the Victims of a Corrupt System. And they are going to help them and save their life's. Maybe Mrs. Jobs should have Bonded them all out of Jail and take them to her home. But Tom Dart isn't telling the Media how the inmates are beating the shit out of the staff.
The sons and daughters of Obama were not meant to spend any time at all in jail. They are supposed to fly as free as the birds up in the sky.
I guess it's all how you look at it .
Perspective , wtf ?
Why does the media always look at it from the criminals perspective ?
God Bless you for your post!
Those assholes will fuck up again, so let's consider it a line of credit of sorts. It's the only credit where a co-signer isn't necessary.
You're welcome.
ah yes the "dead days". Lets take a look at the sentences. They count the "Dead Days" also as being people who are locked up for crimes for six months, as they should be... and then get found guilty and sentenced to 2 years probation plus time considered served. Or they are locked up for 9 months and and get sentenced to one year for UUW.. which by the way it should be 2 - 3 years minimum for most gun charges. Dead days have nothing to do with the poor poor criminal being treated unfairly, it has everything to do with the system giving out soft sentences when they should be sentencing them to bigger sentences and shipping them off to IDOC.
Illinois really needs a three strikes law.
They're banking their extra days for "next time".
Better in there, than out here.
Keep in mind that defendants are often behind the delays in going to trial - they can demand an immediate trial at any time (It is one of their rights.) One must then be held in a very short period of time. Remember that last guy that killed the pharmaceutical saleswoman - it was ten years before he went to trial!
its a shelter for these inmates, better than Pacific Gardens Mission 1458 S. Canal St Chicago. IL 60607
My heart bleeds for them.
Maybe they could ask the judges to actually work a full day?
Judges need to hand out more time!
Can we measure how many time defense needs to contuine a case
In other words, people spent 218 years’ worth of unnecessary time in jail at a cost of $11 million to taxpayers.
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That's for all the crimes they committed and never got caught.
SO.. Get over it liberals.
Empty the jail. Let them ALL go. Close the courts, except for the branches that prosecute all the racist police. They want the oeople of color free, so lets guve them what the ask. No police work. No Jails.
Oh wow, you mean they are actually serving the sentence they should have received then instead of the less than minimum in Cook county.
For once, the judicial system works for the citizens. May I suggest more delays, make the time spent in pokey more appropriate for the crime committed. There is a lot of value in this type of "crime avoidance"
Can't do the time, don't do the crime
It costs $143 to house an inmate.
The average inmate earns less than 110% of that amount in the course of their lifetime.
Do the mandated entitlements cease upon incarceration?
Besides the penalty of jail time, why aren't the inmates required to back back the County for the $143 a day room services?
The average joe could flop at the EconoLodge for $49 or less a night.
Same sloppy complimentary breakfast food, equally nasty bedbugs, foul water, no ice and a wake up call.
Hey what a novel idea, he County could pay inmates $49 a night to stay in motels instead of them hanging out all night on street corners shooting at one another.
Wait, I thinks PrickledWrinkler already does that.
There only "Dead Days" because our inept prosecutors offer plea deals they will take knowing they will get out right away. That is it. They sentence a gun offender to a year in jail after the scumbag continues cases for a year. Add in meritorious good time (Day for a day) that is not supposed to be used in violent crimes, and whala! 200 days "dead time." If we actually had truth in sentencing,we wouldn't have any dead time. Or make prosecutors no longer be able to plea a defendant to less time than he/she has already served.
The poor judges need more time off, in order to decompress from the great stress they work under, attend personal development seminars, conferences and continuing education so that they can be a more effective judge. It ain't easy being 'Da Judge'.
They are just taking time off from the mean streets. Poor souls need to rest up. Further their crime education at the tax supported Crook County Jail of hard knocks. They will better serve their crime constitutes when they get released. That's the revolving door of crook county justice at work for the tax payers. The inmates are running the skool. They should all be on 23 hour lock down not having a vacation at tax payers expense.
Time on the books for there next offense ha ha ha. Maybe it pays for some of the deeds for which they were not caught. Perhaps it is keeping the body count down by having these mutt's in jail.
Keep in mind they are in jail for the one they got caught for, not the hundreds they got away with .
If the system is in such bad shape that it cannot get to minor criminals who are only going to serve a few months anyway until long after their sentences are already over, there is something seriously wrong with the system.
Pre-sentencing jail should not be a place for people who can't make bail, or a way to coerce defendants into pleading guilty.
It is one thing if it happens now and then, as no system is perfect, but when it happens this often there is something rotten going on.
Maybe there needs to be an emphasis on dealing with these minor cases in a more expeditious way.
"Dead time?" That's new.
Used to be called "credit for time served."
Locked up is locked up.
When I was a new detective (25+ yrs ago), I wondered why the murder, rape, agg battery - the more serious crimes would linger in the system for 3, 4 or more years before actually going to trial. I was told by detectives and states attys that this was due to all the continuances, majority of which were asked for by the defense counsel.
Reason for this was the private attorney wouldn't let the trial proceed until he was paid in full!
For the rest - including public defender cases, the lawyers and defendants knew they had very little chance of being found not guilty so they would push off the trial for years so they could hang out at the county with family and friends nearby to visit and there fellow gang members were locked up with them. Also, they were less restrictive at the county, inmates could get away with more. They knew once they were found guilty and shipped to a prison downstate there would be no more visits, less homies to hang with and stricter rules to follow.
That's why the trials take so long, to accommodate inmates and private attys. It has nothing to do with an overloaded system / backlog, but judges accommodate them. Some sort of system should be in place that once charged, you have so many months or a year tops to go to trial. They talk about getting cases in before a "term" expires but that's not set in stone, and is discretionary. Take the discretion out of it and move the trial along.
Why does the media always look at it from the criminals perspective ?
6/11/2016 01:17:00 AM
Do I have to state the obvious?
25 officers Beaten? Put those videos out. Why isn't this shit on the news?
"Dead Days", such an unfortunate term for the gift these individuals have been given. Free from having to work for a living and sustained in an environment where they can pursue the highest goals of mankind.
They can work towards their doctorates in microbiology, quantum physics or they can master the languages of Sanskrit, Urdu, Gaelic or Tagalog.
They could work on their Ph.Ds. in literature and memorize the works and write dissertations on the works of Shakespeare, Homer, Dostoyevsky or Proust.
or they can just hang out blame society and rot
Re-open Tamms and add an addition to it.
Keep in mind they are in jail for the one they got caught for, not the hundreds they got away with .
6/11/2016 01:07:00 PM
Bazinga!!!
Tom Dart talks about Non Violent Inmates that take up most of the Jail Space. But he Fails to mention the 25 Officers and Two Sergeants beaten by his Inmates with the last month. In fact a Paramedic from CFD mentioned to the Commander. We use to respond to inmates that needed Medical Attention. But now we are taking huge amounts of Officers out to the hospital for Medical Treatment. What really is upsetting is Seeing Tom Dart, Arne Duncan, And Steve Jobs Wife at the jail today telling the Inmates they are the Victims of a Corrupt System. And they are going to help them and save their life's. Maybe Mrs. Jobs should have Bonded them all out of Jail and take them to her home. But Tom Dart isn't telling the Media how the inmates are beating the shit out of the staff.
So let me ask a question? When the hell does the union make the news conferance to bring this to the attaetion of the public? They need to start informing the public.
First of all, the $143 per day is false nonsense made up by Toni Taxwinkle when she tries to justify dismantling the criminal justice system and setting rapists and murderers free. She disguises her radical left wing race based as good fiscal stewardship. But she never wants to talk about the real cost of crime. How much does it cost taxpayers when one unemployed gang banger shoots and paralyzes another unemployed gangbanger? Who pays for the lifetime medical care, the motorized wheelchair, the ADA accessible ramp, the transportation, etc? We do. We pay millions and millions and more millions for that nonsense. She won't ever talk about that. She just wants to talk about how there are too many black and brown people in jail.
And by the way, the average cost per inmate per day in almost any other jail in the nation is about $63 per day. That's a fact. So either there is some serious mismanagement going on in Cook County or the $143 per day is a flat out lie.
1981 "Escape from New York"......
2017 Escape from Chicago...........................President Trump orders wall built around Chicago....etc etc
"Im all for jailing assholes. However they have to be convicted and sentenced." We all are in agreement. This is something that judges are responsible for, not coppers. We're doing our jobs, but wtf are they doing??? Usually allowing useless continuance upon unnecessary continuance, ad nauseum= until the "final" continuanc; then the final, final continuance, to be followed by the last final-final continuance, which are always at the demand of the defense counsel. The media didn't mention any of that. Sounds like they may have some bias towards the criminals- since that's what runs the news lately.
There are too many black and brown people in jail, they should be out increasing the shooting and murder count for the city. And in between they could be robbing and raping. More fun for everyone! How screwed up is this county and city that a racist moron like prickwrinkle is allowed to be in charge. Are people really that stupid, if so, the ones who pay for everything need to leave and then burn this place to the ground and start over.
Dart has family members of chicago news media working for him,how can we inform the public when the media has been paid off?
So tell me Einstein, the county should pay the 11 million housing convicted felons waiting to be transferred to the State Penitentiary? Fiscal conservative, yeah right.
The Teamsters local 700 are a joke. That's why Dart gets away with this shit.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If the system is in such bad shape that it cannot get to minor criminals who are only going to serve a few months anyway until long after their sentences are already over, there is something seriously wrong with the system.
Pre-sentencing jail should not be a place for people who can't make bail, or a way to coerce defendants into pleading guilty.
It is one thing if it happens now and then, as no system is perfect, but when it happens this often there is something rotten going on.
Maybe there needs to be an emphasis on dealing with these minor cases in a more expeditious way.
6/11/2016 01:38:00 PM
Monor cases? Could someone explain how much you can get away with before you are actually sent to County jail!
Everyone that can be, (not should be), are I bonded or on home monitoring. You have to go through a stacked process just to get a actual law on the books used. They have won! Why bother...
If you convicted more of these criminals for the real crimes they do, rape, child molestation, murder, terrorism and more they would not have that many dead days and would be off the street for a long time, meaning less crime!
All of my friends a IDOC make over $100,000 with overtime their starting to force promotions because you make more with the overtime.
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