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- The Chicago Police Department’s Internal Affairs Division is investigating whether the third-highest ranking member of the Chicago Fire Department received favored treatment after crashing his city-owned SUV near Lake Shore Drive in Lincoln Park.
Sally Daly, a spokeswoman for the Cook County state’s attorney’s office, disclosed the existence of an Internal Affairs investigation after revealing that former Deputy Fire Commissioner John McNicholas would not be charged with DUI — even though he had a blood-alcohol level nearly twice the legal limit nearly four hours after the April 20 crash.
Must be nice - blow two-times the legal limit four hours later and no charges whatsoever. Even though there are all sorts of charts, research and papers that will tell you EXACTLY what your B.A.C. was working backwards. He certainly wasn't under .16 unless he somehow continued drinking on scene. And the paper is laying all this one on the cops:
- The Breathalyzer was administered by the Chicago Fire Department’s Internal Affairs Bureau. Chicago Police officers were on the scene of the crash on LaSalle Street just off Lake Shore Drive for about two hours but never administered a field sobriety test.
Unlike Illinois State Police, Chicago Police officers do not carry Breathalyzers in their squad cars. If a Breathalyzer is administered, it has to be done at the district station. That was not done in McNicholas’ case.
Which, of course, plays into Rahm's hands:
- The failure by police officers to administer either a field sobriety test or a Breathalyzer to McNicholas has raised questions about whether McNicholas was given preferential treatment by police.
[...] Internal Affairs will attempt to determine whether that code of silence extends to the Fire Department.
“It’s pretty much standard practice,” said a source familiar with police handling of accidents involving firefighters and paramedics. “As long as nobody’s hurt, they let the [fire] department handle its own business.”
We're going to bet that "standard practice" is about to get tossed under the Rahm bus, and rightfully so.
IAD knows what happened here - IAD has been covering for connected drunks for years. And if this case moves forward, all those skeletons might come tumbling out of the closets they've been shoved into. IAD is the nexus for any (and every) so-called "code of silence." Think about it - IAD "investigates" everything and decides if it goes forward or not. IAD is the superintendent's investigative arm. IAD seems to get an awful lot of "merit" bumps for the investigators who make things "better."
Nowadays, IAD gets the answers to promotional tests. Coincidence?
IAD knows what happened here - IAD has been covering for connected drunks for years. And if this case moves forward, all those skeletons might come tumbling out of the closets they've been shoved into. IAD is the nexus for any (and every) so-called "code of silence." Think about it - IAD "investigates" everything and decides if it goes forward or not. IAD is the superintendent's investigative arm. IAD seems to get an awful lot of "merit" bumps for the investigators who make things "better."
Nowadays, IAD gets the answers to promotional tests. Coincidence?
Labels: scandals
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
40 Comments:
Who guards the guardians?
Nothing new here, so move on. It's the Chicago Way.
Anybody in IAD get fired or suspended over the cheating investigation? No. Same thing will happen here.
Did this happen before or after Barz made lieutenant?
So, was a Sgt. on scene or not? If so, then he most likely made the call for a cover up. If not, who knows? Maybe the cops didn't smell any booze and that's why they just gave him a ticket.
He only got caught because it was in a city vehicle and needed to report it. Since I wasn't there, I'm not going to post on here and throw the coppers under the bus. At least they weren't being pro active and chasing the dope man in the ghetto.
It seems to me that the only solution is to not let any fire head honchos have take home cars. This city isn't like the movie Backdraft. The clouted clown doesn't need a city vehicle to go racing around to garage and car fires. If there ever is a catastrophic event like 9/11, then using his own gas money is going to be the least of his worries.
Let me throw in tac lieutenants too while I'm at it. They don't need take home cars. Next thing you know one of them will be getting in a drunk driving accident. Give them an old 1970's gum ball light they can put on their personal cars if they need to play Lethal Weapon.
So tired of reading this nonsense. IAD is was and always will be nothing but "rats" that help out the clouted and really enjoy screwing over regular people on the job. Never have liked anyone that worked there never will sit and drink or talk with any of the "rats" including the retired IAD "rats" who try to act like they didn't spend their career screwing over the working police. Seems that none of them ever investigated working cops they all just filed papers or some such nonsense. You know the old "I never hurt a good working copper" bs. Not even man enough to admit the "rats" they were and are.
Honestly IAD is the most corrupt unit in the department. Just look at the last joke of a lieutenants test. I'm retired now and still feel the same way. As a matter of fact I wonder if when these "rats" retire they walk around looking over their shoulders knowing there are guys out there that never forget. That's right "rats" even us old retired guys owe you "rats" a cheap shot for the damage you've done and the misery you've caused. Keep looking over your shoulders "rats" cause this is one "old timer" that if he ever gets a chance will definitely get some pay back.
No confidence whatsoever in IAD 'investigations.' Still, it doesn't excuse the patrolmen and supervisor(s) of the CPD on the scene of McNicholas' crash for doing nothing whatsoever to determine if he was impaired. It's ridiculous to say that it's 'standard practice' to leave it all up to the CFD. Since when do they conduct traffic crash investigations that may result in criminal charges? Nothing ever changes in this city, despite the claims of 'transparency.'
Why are they asking questions they already know the answer to . ......so that they can redirect the blame on to a clout less blue shirt . .... why else ?
There is so much venom being spewed here, a lot of it is petty jealousy, a lot just misguided.
There are not enough police to do the policing that needs to be done. There never will be. Not every drunk that crashes a car gets written, some because we are to busy, some because we miss it, some because we are too lazy. That's a fact. to every one that complained: how many accidents did you handle did you look the other way on driver sobriety because you were too busy, or worse -"I don't know how"? There are very few experts on DUI's. There' a lot to it. Many coppers don't want to be embarrassed on the stand.
Now for the other side: Not everyone that has been drinking is the cause of a crash. Many 'legally' impaired drivers are better drivers than most out there. Look around at some people that shouldn't be behind the wheel. The DUI accident and death statistics are wildly inflated. Look at the criteria for 'alcohol related deaths' and DUI's. "Everyone has an agenda" They do it because they think it is for the greater good. They are wrong. It only weakens good work.
Are things better with drunks on the road today, sure. But take a breath and look beyond statistics someone if feeding you. I await the "I had a family member......". So did I. That's why I know.
Look into the IAD handling of Cline's kid before he passed (hahahaha) his first promotional test! Around 2001-ish, that kid was looked after when daddy was just the Chief of Dicks.
The fire boss has bigger problems then a DUI. The wifey found out that the female "Friend" of the boss was a passenger in the vehicle at the time of the crash! Boss tossed from house and belongings tossed on front lawn!
If you are pulled over for DUI, tell the officer that you are invoking the McNicholas defense
Over two months to investigate?
Sounds like Loretta Lynch still trying to find the motive for the Orlando attack
Anonymous said...
Anybody in IAD get fired or suspended over the cheating investigation? No. Same thing will happen here.
6/29/2016 12:42:00 AM
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Has anyone from IAD EVER been susupended or fired for covering up or failing to complete a proper investigation into clouted officers over the years?
The media wants to do a story on a code of silence, it's in IAD.
Maybe he is a highly functioning alcoholic. There is no reason to give SFST to someone involved in an accident that shows no sign of impairment.
Yawn... But it is OK for the State attorney to let police fighters who choke police to be released without charges.
Sometimes the media forgets officers on scene have discretion.
If i locked up everyone that should be locked up everyday I would be late for dinner and double my salary.
No blood No foul. And IAD has so many rejects investigators how many do you think have every done a Homicide investigation. You have more old diaper dicks in IAD it is laughable. Why do you think they always charge people with rule 14 violations?
Lame charge like the FED's who charge lying to federal agent but drop the whole real crime.
I remember when Chief Rivera was in charge,things got done the right way,then he landed a great job at pete's produce as Chief of security..Nice..
Business as usual.
The 2 officers that sued the department who attempted to get the Mayor on the stand to admit to the code of silence;
They admitted that many others were protected and some of them are NOW exempt members.
WHO ARE THESE SUBJECTS?
Name the names of these corrupt bastards protected by then IAD Chief Juan RIVERA !!!
Did this happen before or after Barz made lieutenant?
6/29/2016 01:32:00 AM
This idiot BARZ was the DIRECT LINK to Lt one 'n" from Area North Homicide for the Koschman case, kept him up to speed on IAD investigation and agencies looking into case..real piece of work this guy.
CFD made him blow, why not CPD? Because he's a boss? He's not your boss! Now the P.O.'s will take time and no one will say shit to the supervisor on scene that gave you that shitty advice!
I'm sure those at Iad are falling all over themselves to sweep this under the rug in order to secure a merit LT spot.
When IAD breaks the law, blatantly cheats on tests, violates P.O's civil rights,and discriminates against P.O's to protect the clouted and to cover up botched investigations, one might ask, why are there no rules and regulations set up to stop this corruption??? When is the Department going to police its Internal Affair Division? The two tiers of discipline need to be exposed and E.J and his crew of cheaters should be forced to step down, stripped while the investigation is ongoing just like what would happen to the minions.
And buried on the bottom of page 7 is a short summary of all the people shot and killed last weekend. How evil guns are and diversity is our strength.
I wonder if the reporters that write this drivel, and have been writing it year in and year out, still believe it or even think anyone else believes it?
J.J.
The moral of this story Cover your Ass they took care of a stone cold jagoff that would have fucked u over in a minute
Having worked in IAD at one time, I can tell you that anything will be investigated, although not always with competence. The file on clouted individuals then go directly to the head of IAD and the Superintendent. It never hits the command channel review. Then in the dark offices of the Superintendent the decision of what to do is made, most often ....wait for it....nothing. Even criminal cases have gone this route and have so for many years.
"Unlike Illinois State Police, Chicago Police officers do not carry Breathalyzers in their squad cars. If a Breathalyzer is administered, it has to be done at the district station."
ISP carries PBT's, portable breath testing devices. They are basically used to confirm your probable cause. Once arrested, the driver still has to be brought to a police station where a breath test is administered that can be used in court. We didn't have PBT's back in the day and were still able to determine whether someone was drunk.
So, maybe he refused? My lawyer says never take a field sobriety test or blow.
We are still waiting on the results of the IG Investigation of the Lietenants exam cheating scandal. I truly believe some heads are gonna roll!
I'm confused. I know I have been retired a few years and haven't written a DUI in close to 30 years, BUT. If the driver refuses to blow, how can you give him the test? Fire has there own IAD to conduct the department side of the accident, we don't do that for them. Everyone knows NEVER BLOW. Really help me out can we now compel someone to submit to tests against themselves? Same with the FST he he refuses to cooperate with the test what can you do. OK so maybe a paper work screw-up happened, won't be the first time that happened. So to quote Killery :"that it’s time to move on."
The coppers involved had no reason to beleive he was under the influence. He is a functional alcoholic. Hell, his own department did the blow because they thought he was sober. Coppers have nothing to fear, they did what would have happened with anyone in a crash. No signs of impairment means no testing.
So a clouted fire boss drunk smashes a vehicle and retires with a huge pension and as usual the coppers are to blame. As a veteran officer how can you go after police? Eddie step up bring johnny in also, we all know how clout works, clouted coppers (examscam2016), clouted bosses it happens in private industry and here also nothing to see here move along!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
So tired of reading this nonsense. IAD is was and always will be nothing but "rats" that help out the clouted and really enjoy screwing over regular people on the job. Never have liked anyone that worked there never will sit and drink or talk with any of the "rats" including the retired IAD "rats" who try to act like they didn't spend their career screwing over the working police. Seems that none of them ever investigated working cops they all just filed papers or some such nonsense. You know the old "I never hurt a good working copper" bs. Not even man enough to admit the "rats" they were and are.
Honestly IAD is the most corrupt unit in the department. Just look at the last joke of a lieutenants test. I'm retired now and still feel the same way. As a matter of fact I wonder if when these "rats" retire they walk around looking over their shoulders knowing there are guys out there that never forget. That's right "rats" even us old retired guys owe you "rats" a cheap shot for the damage you've done and the misery you've caused. Keep looking over your shoulders "rats" cause this is one "old timer" that if he ever gets a chance will definitely get some pay back.
6/29/2016 02:21:00 AM
Sounds like SOMEBODY took a few days for SOMETHING, hmmm?
Well, this IAD investigator worked for a lieutenant who said he didn't care what the outcome was, as long as we did the investigation fair and honest, straight down the line. RIP, Bob Curry.
I put away a dope-dealing, insurance-fraud offender who happened to wear a blue shirt. I put away a rapist who happened to carry a star. I helped fire a guy whose party favors were little pyramids of coke on the tables at his house, always the first day of a three day weekend, in case of Monday morning drug screens. I did lose most of a case on a guy who admitted he stole from the elderly and cleared out their homes while they were in the hospital (thanks to his inside knowledge while working the wagon. Statute of limitations killed us.)
No 35 minute lunches, no arguments with neighbors, no petty bs or fabricated charges. So, if that's being a rat, I'm fine with it. If you're a thief, a rapist, a dope dealer, no matter the color of your shirt or the color of your star, you deserve what you get.
I doubt I'd want to have a drink anywhere near you, anyway, with your bitter attitude. But I'll sure keep an eye out for you and your payback threat.
Poor flunky patrolman working the beat is the first to go down.
Stuck his neck out for what?
And it will probably end right there too, even though multiple supervisors were fully aware what was going on.
CFD does not supersede a police investigation, so who is at fault and allowed the driver to be removed of obligations under the law?
Some 4 or 5 layers of merit supervisors?
The lowly flunky patrolman?
Don't tell me the Daley-Vanecko thingy didn't sink in.
Merit Goofs.
Do your job officer, don't cover for them.
Fishlips should be charged
CPD could have locked him up and then tot CFD when he posted bond
I never had a problem with IAD going after coppers because I never had anything to worry about. I always wondered about the vocal IAD haters, especially the ones so fond of the criminal term "rat".
This nonsense and the CIA director not a flunky tells us be ready in America for attacks:
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/john-brennan-says-istanbul-attack-should-serve-as-us-warning/
Who you going to call the revs,alderman,rahm crew, media no the police the real deal people respect blue the thugs and illegal invaders pandering can wait this man says it I would believe him!
They charged Otis mcnicolas finally:
http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/crime/167371860-story
Can we up that misdemeanor somehow to felony and take all or at least a big chunk of underserved pension? Eddie call the Feds get the girlfriend were her civil rights violated in a vehicle driven by a drunken fire boss who knows better!
6/29
6:13pm
Yeah you're the real police what suburb did you grow up in? Now stay in Mommies basement and play call to duty or some other fantasy game. You can't be for real if you actually believe IAD is, was or ever will be legit. Retirement can't come soon enough if CPD has guys like you but then again maybe you aren't one of those that got screwed on the last lieutenants list. "Rat" is not a criminal term dip shit it's a man's term for a back stabbing asshole. If you really are the police then you are one of the reasons this job and this department are shit now.
6/29
12:07 pm
I thought the greatest detective in the world made Sgt years ago and retired out of 015. You're my new hero all these high profile "dirty cop" pinches and none of them ever hit the papers or the news. Hey I can remember a lot of thieves you must have missed oh great IAD investigator and you sure weren't around 015 for "Broken Star" I believe those guys were dope dealers you great IAD investigators missed. Not to mention several more that worked the West Side. You are a "rat" you know it and to even come on here and spew your self righteous bullshit especially you ,knowing what IAD really is, the recent lieutenants test for one very recent example, just leads me to believe nobody would have a drink with you so go visit your dead hero IAD lieutenant,who I'm sure made it legit, and keep looking over your shoulder. "Rat"
Was not there. Don't know what happened. Would certainly give a fireman the best treatment available under the law. Always saw them as our brothers in arms. We are running out of friends. Might wish to keep these guys on our side. We can have our disagreements but I know that when I am away from home in the middle of the night they would run into my burning house to save my kids. That is a fact. It must be worth something.
6/29
10:47 PM
Belch. Fart. Hiccup. Pass the Cheetos™.
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