Monday, August 15, 2016

Another Slum Times "Expert"

  • Two newly released police reports in the controversial fatal shooting of 18-year-old Paul O’Neal differ in what they say about the teen’s actions while fleeing police.

    Several police reports pertaining to the July 28 incident were released Friday to the Chicago Sun-Times. One officer in his report wrote that O’Neal “reached into his waistband” as he ran from officers.

    That could indicate the officer believed O’Neal was reaching for a weapon. And yet, it is not repeated in any other officer’s report released Friday. The most detailed narrative in the documents released Friday is a major incident report that describes the pursuit of the stolen vehicle and the foot chase, but makes no mention of O’Neal reaching into his waistband.
Um, did you see the videos lady? The first two cops were up close and personal, almost getting hit by the Jaguar, flinging lead downrange, running to catch up to the wrecked cars. That's what their body-cam videos show - what else would it show? And the reports are reflective of that.

The third cop, the one involved in the head-on collision, his viewpoint is entirely different. He's attacked by a car flying at him, he can probably hear [police] bullets whizzing by, the driver flees between houses, over fences.His report is going to be completely different from the first two guys. Additionally, these cameras don't see through walls, and there doesn't seem to be a zoom feature.

Congratulations Sun Times, you proven that different people in different positions see different things from different viewpoints!
  • A police tactical response report states: “Subject intentionally rammed his vehicle into RO’s vehicle while numerous shots were simultaneously heard coming from the direction of the offenders vehicle. During pursuit offender failed to comply to verbal commands while reaching into his waist band.”

    However, a major incident notification omits any mention of the teen reaching into a waistband, which could have led police to fear a potential gun.
And? The Major Incident Notification Log is simply a summary of information known at the time so some boss can answer general media questions if there's a press conference somewhere. It isn't a TRR, it isn't a summary of an interview, it isn't even a Detective Supp.

Here's a small clue - complete information is seldom on a preliminary report.

And evidently, it's seldom found in media reports either - not when there's an agenda to be pushed.

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28 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The narrative must be maintained!

The Chicago Police Department are all racist, fascist executioners of poor innocent Black Men.

You are guilty, and you will never be proven innocent. You are damned by your betters like Rahm, Obama, Hillary, the Mainstream Media Machine, and the elite that think they run this country.

Two Dozen people died in Chiraq last week, and none of them were killed by the police. The only Black Lives that Matter are those killed by the police and by Whites (as if that ever happens?). Black can shoot each other down in job lots, Kids, Grandmothers, Innocent or not, Black Lives just do not matter.

8/15/2016 12:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look what happened up north.

Milwaukee Police Officer shoots a fleeing man with a gun. The Chief of Police, the Mayor, the County Sheriff, and the Governor all support the Police, not the criminal. Not the assholes burning down their own neighborhoods.

Wisconsin Democrats and Republicans support their police.

8/15/2016 12:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FUCK the bought and paid for media !
You assholes might want to study what happens when a revolution fails.

8/15/2016 12:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who gives a fuck as long as shit heads stay in their ghetto don't worry. The left coddles them and pays them for votes meanwhile were safe. This is great! Just let the media pitty them like they do they aren't motivated and they stay in the ghetto. I don't know why cops get frustrated on this site. I'm a DA and am laughing. I should work for gov. because it's easy$. Haha!

8/15/2016 01:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ha! So all these e-mails and notification logs are beginning to haunt 35th St. Hilarious! A notification of a murder or person shot should be just that, A NOTIFICATION, not a GOCR, not a Gang Summary Report, not a Intelligence Report, A F'ing notification! Dumb Fucks! If i was a defense attorney that would be the first thing i would subpoena. I often wondered if the deceive division even knew about all the behind the scene emails that went out after such incidents and all the doubt and alternate theories it would give to the defense. Well now i know.

8/15/2016 01:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Squad, can I get my 30 minutes?

8/15/2016 03:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Media reports that intentionally fan the flames are the sole reason for these riots. They don't organize them, they just poor gasoline on them. It is so reckless that it appears that they do it intentionally. They cannot be that ignorant.

So I will ask this one question: Why?

8/15/2016 05:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is why all these "instant notifications" that these jag-bag gold stars are demanding is so dangerous.

None of this stuff is ever accurate in the first hour or so because people are in hospitals, guarding crime scenes, and all the victims and witnesses are usually lying anyways.

Bring out yer dead!

8/15/2016 06:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Making hay

8/15/2016 06:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gotta give those exempts credit they invented this NO shoot in vehicle rule,ISR card,car cameras,body worn cameras and the no chase rule.

Rules gonna cost this City 100's of millions of dollars.

The game is rigged and if you play you will lose.

8/15/2016 07:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tell the "journalist " to learn English as a language.

8/15/2016 07:49:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

The media can twist whatever they want to. No oversight.

8/15/2016 07:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Emanuel says that he agrees with the Sun-Times' experts.

8/15/2016 08:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just love these college professors throwing their " expert opinions" into the mix. I had many years of police experience and taught at the university level for 10 years. I found most of these professors eggheads. Nice people but just plain eggheads who know only what they know from reading about it. They spend most of their time writing useless research articles in order to keep teaching or to get federal grant money. Sometimes they do produce information of value, they have no practical experience. I would be willing to bet that most professors of criminal justice would be just too afraid to ever roll in a squad at night. It is laughable and the media just loves to quote them.

8/15/2016 08:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The media could give a fuck about printing the truth. They are experts at mixing a little bit of truth with a whole bunch of bullshit lies in order to create propaganda which once it's consumed by the public causes an uproar which in turn sometimes causes riots which creates more opportunity for more propaganda. The media stirs the pot in order to get people to read their bullshit. This tactic has been used in the Soviet Union since the beginning of the Russian Revolution to purge the ranks and kill and imprison people indiscriminately. This shit is nothing new it's just been mutated and imported here to stir shit up in order to create problems that never previously existed. The police are no longer able to shoot armed black men which are a real threat to the officers lives even if the officer who shot the offender is black????? There is a whole lot more here than meets the eye.

8/15/2016 08:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There will never be any fair and impartial trial of anyone involved.

8/15/2016 10:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From the video's we saw only one officer, the one who shot o'neal, was in the yard at time of shooting. So wouldn't his view be different in that he was alone in yard? That was easy and I'm not even a journalist

8/15/2016 10:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When did POs start signing major incident notifications reports. Dont sign shit unless you like whats written on the fucking report. If you didnt write it read it before you sign it.

8/15/2016 11:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Everyone of these "journalists" keep looking to re live the days of the 60's. every single one of them want that Walter Cronkite glamour and notoriety. And for the younger ones they want to have their version of those days.


All I want is a late lunch and time due.

8/15/2016 12:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One day they will regret their slanderous rhetoric towards the police.... But until then, I'll just watch the shit show and laugh.

8/15/2016 12:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


The narrative must be maintained!

The Chicago Police Department are all racist, fascist executioners of poor innocent Black Men.

You are guilty, and you will never be proven innocent. You are damned by your betters like Rahm, Obama, Hillary, the Mainstream Media Machine, and the elite that think they run this country.

Two Dozen people died in Chiraq last week, and none of them were killed by the police. The only Black Lives that Matter are those killed by the police and by Whites (as if that ever happens?). Black can shoot each other down in job lots, Kids, Grandmothers, Innocent or not, Black Lives just do not matter.


++++++

Exactly! This is why I'm fetal. I refuse to be part of the problem. The community can do as they wish and handle their problems as they desire.

8/15/2016 01:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These media scumbugs will twist, turn, lie ..... do whatever to try and incite and further their anti police agenda.

8/15/2016 01:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who gives a fuck as long as shit heads stay in their ghetto don't worry. The left coddles them and pays them for votes meanwhile were safe. This is great! Just let the media pitty them like they do they aren't motivated and they stay in the ghetto. I don't know why cops get frustrated on this site. I'm a DA and am laughing. I should work for gov. because it's easy$. Haha!

8/15/2016 01:10:00 AM

They aren't staying in their ghetto. You can't spell for shit, and it's almost impossible to understand whatever you're trying to say. You're a DA and you're laughing? Does DA stand for Dumb Ass? You should work for gov? What does that mean? Try to formulate a coherent thought in your empty head before posting it on the blog.

8/15/2016 07:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From the video's we saw only one officer, the one who shot o'neal, was in the yard at time of shooting. So wouldn't his view be different in that he was alone in yard? That was easy and I'm not even a journalist

8/15/2016 10:25:00 AM

That was easy because you're not a "journalist." You have no agenda to push. You have no viewers or readers to pander to. You have no reason to ignore common sense and create a conspiracy where none exists.

8/15/2016 07:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The scum times is bad but the tribune is totally pro BLM. Any comment that is not with the new pro Rahm pro BLM agenda is deleted by the trib censors.

8/15/2016 09:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHY is it that Commanders, lieutenants, and even some tac sergeants get cellphones issued by the department, but blue shirts in patrol never get issued cellphones? Yet whenever someone gets shot, or some "newsworthy" incident occurs, the radio has bosses screaming for p.o.s to call the desk from the scene and give them the preliminary report, often before the RD number is even generated??? Stop being nice to the department. Don't use your personal phone to do the department's business. Tell the the department to provide you with a cellphone and then you will call them, otherwise they have to wait until you can call from the hospital or wait til you get to the station to complete your report.

Or you can wait until you get a sub poena for your cellphone records and find out the wisdom of the foregoing.........

8/15/2016 10:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

even better is the immediate notification to CPIC via your personal cell phone, so they can send out an email across the land with preliminary info which they can update repeatedly from multiple sources and email email email bad info, good info it doesn't matter- and it doesn't help the folks on the scene doing the work, its just an ego stroke for bosses and a way to hide street scared officers who answer the phone.

8/16/2016 11:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...


WHY is it that Commanders, lieutenants, and even some tac sergeants get cellphones issued by the department, but blue shirts in patrol never get issued cellphones? Yet whenever someone gets shot, or some "newsworthy" incident occurs, the radio has bosses screaming for p.o.s to call the desk from the scene and give them the preliminary report, often before the RD number is even generated??? Stop being nice to the department. Don't use your personal phone to do the department's business. Tell the the department to provide you with a cellphone and then you will call them, otherwise they have to wait until you can call from the hospital or wait til you get to the station to complete your report.

Or you can wait until you get a sub poena for your cellphone records and find out the wisdom of the foregoing.........

8/15/2016 10:42:00 PM


Couldn't agree more.

8/16/2016 12:27:00 PM  

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