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- The Justice Department and Baltimore police agreed to negotiate court-enforceable reforms after a scathing federal report released Wednesday criticized officers for using excessive force and routinely discriminating against blacks.
The report, the culmination of a yearlong investigation into one of the country's largest police forces, found that officers make a large number of stops -- mostly in poor, black neighborhoods -- with dubious justification and unlawfully arrest citizens when officers "did not like what those individuals said."
The report is long on generalizations and short on specifics, claiming people who got stopped excessively were "profiled" instead of asking what they were doing to attract attention to themselves. The report blames everyone from the top on down for poor training, failure to correct deficiencies, "code of silence" type stuff - pretty much everything we're seeing here in Chicago...including the drive for "numbers," regardless of the Reasonableness of the stop, a la McCompStat and his New York cronies, and still being pushed by a largish number of Chiefs, Deputy Chiefs and Command staff.
We can only assume the end result is going to be the same, too.
We can only assume the end result is going to be the same, too.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
55 Comments:
Every single Holder/Lynch DOJ report on a Police Department comes from the exact same template: unfounded/unsubstantiated statements from "public", innuendo, hearsay, and finally a broad general descriptive use of the word "racist" when the statistics (racial profiling and use of force) are analyzed.
What is truly amazing that in all of these "racist" departments not one member has been prosecuted for civil rights violations. I wonder why...... Oh yeah, that would occur in a criminal court, where actual evidence would have to be presented (and we saw how that worked in the Baltimore cases).
The all knowing DOJ will bring their own brand of justice to the police world.
Oh boy, do you guys see where this will be going? Chicago might be next, it happened in L.A.
How many other cities are ahead of Chicago?
Have any of them gotten out of the consent degree process and regained control?
Didn't the "Justice" Department say the same exact thing about Ferguson after St. Michael Brown was found to have been 100% justifiably shot?
So essentially the thugs cause their own demise, but it's due to racism, so it's the Police's fault anyway. Makes perfect sense.
I heard the reason we weren't taken over a few years back was because J Fled was force fed to us instead of DOJ oversight.
Yo, this fuck eye fucked me, so I put a case on him. Oh, oh, not any more... I ride around and get eye fucked all night long in these shit neighborhoods. Back in the day, if the fuck on the back of one of the projects, you know, the lookout, didn't get the fuck inside the building when he saw us, he was in trouble, and you only had to do it once. The way things are now, if there were high rise projects here, we wouldn't be allowed to walk in them without a damn riot happening. But we are the problem...
so, stop no one and let the complainers kill each other... suck on the doj
So what, bring it on.
Police work is dead! I tell citizens all the time to arm themselves! Vote Trump and Join the NRA!!!
There is absolutely ZERO chance that the DOJ is going to investigate ANY law enforcement agency where the result will be 'Nope, everything looks good here'.
If the DOJ is called on to investigate, they will find fault no matter what. Otherwise, what is the sense of having the DOJ to begin with?
Obama has used this branch of his administration since day one as a tool promote his agenda against law and order in America and to legitimize criminal enterprises such as Black Lives Matter, MoveOn.org, the New Black Panther party etc etc.
The liberals have turned the DOJ into their personal attack dog against Republican/ conservative ideals, American freedoms like the 2nd Amendment, not to mention most of the rest of our Constitution.
It's disgusting what has happened in this country since Obama has taken over!
Obama's Gestapo - National Police Force is the endgame in all of this crap.
Is the DOJ going to investigate the states attorneys office and mayor in Baltimore? They conspired with each other to bag the police and attempted to destroy the officers lives. But no the police are the problem and not the so called citizens. Proactive policing is over.
Hats off to the first poster. So why are there no civil rights prosecutions in the BPD if it is such a hot bed of racism and constitutional violations of the poor minority community?
It is because the DOJ from Eric Holder and Loretta "Airport" Lynch and all of the people who work for it including the assholes imbedded at the CPD are nothing more than little political minions. You have guys like Comey who by all accounts built a career of integrity but tossed it all because of his own political compass.
I watched this news conference with the Baltimore Mayor and the DOJ woman; Vanita in the blue dress and pearls reading a summary of the findings. In a city that is about 70% minority, why is it you are surprised most encounters with the police are with minorities? Kind of like white people in Englewood. What percentage of people will be "targeted" for stops in Englewood?
The new Chief was there and as useful as a screen door on a submarine as he should be in a Democrat managed city. But it was the reporter in the piece who said it all at the end. The Furgeson effect was quoted. He was conveying crime statistics that showed when the police were aggressive making thousands arrests, a number equal to 1/6th of the population there, violent crime dropped 16%. He expressed that to implement the current DOJ recommendations it will cost an estimated $10mil and the trade off will be a less aggressive police force and the potential that violent crime in the city may rise. The last line was; that was a trade off many apparently are willing to risk.
There it is. This is where Chicago is. We have the Preckwinkle effect. As you cops "stay fetal", assume a defense posture and visibility in the street and reduce contact with the community, crime will trend upwards because there is no repercussion for criminal activity. And this is what is happening here in the view of many. It is more important for political leadership to cater to the community that produces the throng of criminals than the rest of the city who are NOT putting pressure on them to require aggressive policing.
Finally, this is EXACTLY what happened in Detroit in the 1980's. The alliance between the corrupt community and corrupt politicians catering to the corrupt community is why Detroit lost more than half of its population in 20 years. Folks and people, this city is in about year 5 of that March. Rahm will be defeated by Preckwinkle in the next Mayoral race and the deterioration will continue as she embraces the community of corruption known as politics and in particular, democratic politics.
The Fed's and their Monday Morning Quarterbacking. Quick to Point Out what's wrong with the Police, but NO MENTION about the "Community" and their Culture, Lifestyle, Actions. It's they way they live that forces Police Departments to flood the "Community" with more Police and to keep them from killing, robbing and raping each other.
Yes, there should be consequences for the police and bad behavior, but there should also be consequences for the culture of violence the "community" continues to accept. "Community" PLEACE LOOK In the mirror and start blaming your life's choices instead of the Police.
Nothing new, it's the same old story over and over again and again. This time around, they don't want you to be the police. The last time they wanted you to lock up you mother. Role with the punches until they come up with something else and just lay back and watch the carnage.
I knew that they'd exact their ounce of flesh after all those acquittals. They have to make the democrats happy even if it's a lie.
Same Old Song.
Message to all U.S. police is now:
STAY FETAL!!!
This is the DOJs way of supporting BLM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I heard the reason we weren't taken over a few years back was because J Fled was force fed to us instead of DOJ oversight.
8/11/2016 03:54:00 AM
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The mental midget little Dick Daley picked his nose then picked the FBI's IAD guy to head off the DOJ.
Guess those guys up in 016 better start putting folks up against the wall, or on the hood of the car. Time to stop and search in Norwood Park, Edison park, and various other Northwest side communities.
Does anyone not really see what's going on? This is obamas way of implementing a federalize do police force. He knows congress would be approve any kind of a federal police department, so he by passes them under consent decree with the same bullshit findings. He knows police are one of his biggest enimies, and he doesn't want anyone backing them. He's cutting off police at the knees, much like he did the military. He "removed" over 200 high ranking military leaders, replacing them with soft political appointments. He knows exactly what he's doing. I hopeful not the only one, but when the good people start to open their eyes and fight back, I'm with them. When a good citizen defends his/her family and kills one of these animals, and the bosses want me to "take action," I'm with them. When a leader for the good people starts to rise up and call for action against the political tyranny that's going on, I'm with them. God help anyone who gets in my way. Some things are bigger than this job. Don't be their political pawn. And, save the comments "have to feed my family, so I'll tie the line." If the politicians have it their way, you and your family will be toeing the line at the third world medical clinic, the food dispensary, and any other socialist run program, while the criminals and illegals run free and do what they want on your dime. Much like they're doing now.
It's pathetic the doj states BPD committed civil rights violations, but no report or charges against mosby for any civil rights violation, gals imprisonment, ETC...
The most interesting part is the report that a majority of street and traffic stops occurred in 2 small geographic areas of the city and most involved stops of blacks. Again, these statisticians spout rhetoric about that being unusual. However, nowhere in the report does it state any facts that these two neighborhoods account for something like 70-80% of the drug dealing and violent crime in Baltimore. Proof that the truth hurts.
What's the unspoken common thread here?
All these cities have been run totally by Democrats for decades. And, with the exception of Chicago, pretty much totally run by African American mayors, DA's, Top Cops, et. al. for years.
Soooo, how could these Lefty Utopias be so discriminatory? Must be Bush's fault? Or the NRA? Choose your own scapegoat for the obvious failure of far left politics.
You have to remember the Obama DOJ has entered into agreements with Cleveland, Newark, Baltimore, Chicago, Portland, and New Orleans? They're going to be controlling policing efforts. It was signed back in March? Yeah, they're going to be solving all the problems, You have to see the results on the streets, right? I'm rolling here...but this actually happened. Too bad they never solved the funding requirement for your retirement, but they're not concerned with your survival. Of course neck holds are verboten, as is immediate supervisor review after use of force. never mind your bargaining agreements, we're talking the DOJ here, they're always right. Geez, you can't believe the crap people sign.
Will the thugs and criminals get the DOJ memo that with their reforms and more community involvement that crime will diminish?
This report was probably written years ago and just dusted off and recycled, with a few local examples thrown in. It's infuriating the way the DOJ has been corrupted and weaponized against our own by hair-on-fire radicals who have hijacked the democrat party. How can anyone take these reports for anything but a steaming pile of obamaloney?
"...after a scathing federal report released Wednesday criticized officers for using excessive force and routinely discriminating against blacks"
What a steaming pile of shit!
Stay fetal, people.
This a plan to nationalize domestic law enforcement. Every cop under Federal control. All policy decisions from DC. Washington determines who get promoted.
If you think our directives are vast and confusing, you ain't seen nothing yet.
Translation, the murder rate has been rising in minority communities and we must insure that it continues to increase.
Oh and on demand abortion always provided for free in minority communities and in as many locations as possible.
At What point do the minority communities realize that the democrats policies are actually going to insure that the black community will not become any bigger or might actually begin to shrink as a total percentage of this country? But the democrats keep throwing those freebies to them. Like a spoiled child with a bad parent, it'll be years before they realize they've been fucked over.
Unbelievable
You know Rahm has already instructed them to find the same "problems" here.
All so Rahm can continue to "stick it in the cop's ear" while pandering to "the community".
Consent Decrees are wonderful. Didn't Chicago Mayor Daley (both of them) enter into Consent Decrees with Uncle Sam? How did that work out?
same ting happened in the Chgo Pub Schools. The black kids got more detentions so they concluded there unfair racial discrimination.
Hey I have a question: If the FBI-compiled UCR stats show that blacks, per capita, are 6x more likely to commit murder than are whites, and blacks are locked up more for it, is that also unfair discrimination?
You know, the liberals can discuss every nuance on the abortion issue, but they become awful obtuse when it comes to these easy ones.
-just a dumb cop
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Didn't the "Justice" Department say the same exact thing about Ferguson after St. Michael Brown was found to have been 100% justifiably shot?
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yes they did. What Ferguson boiled down to was the cops were writing the blacks a lot of jaywalking tickets, which went unpaid, and the cops would then go lock them up for the warrant. That's pretty much it.
But were the blacks stopped more because they jaywalk more? No one examined that.
The report lacked any scientific method. It was a joke.
Listen Ladies and Gentlemen it is coming to Chicago. The Chicago Report is going to be the biggest yet of the DOJ report. Get ready for it. They are going to have a field day with the CPD. As to the first poster in this section, You are sooo right, not one single Officer has been indicted for Civil Rights Violations. if you think it is bad now, waite until the report comes out. Hold on to your butts
It's a preprinted form letter of recommendation, the same outline will be on the CPD Report.
The Obama DOJ is biased, the FBI was even compromised by the WH. Think Hillary will be any different?
So basically what the DOJ had done was cut and paste the same narrative they've used for the past 30 years.
Oh my, Blacks get stopped more. Blacks are arrested more often. Blacks are victims of excessive force.
(Anybody in the DOJ have any idea who commits the most crime, fights the police to avoid arrest?)
There's a reason the liberal media won't report on Chicago crime numbers or mention race of offenders.
Electing a Clinton in November will continue Obama policies and the further decline of America.
Transfer all 911 calls to the CPD over to the DOJ and see how they respond. Let these know-it-alls
get a little taste of thug life before they totally screw up Chicago!
I call the Eric Holder/Bitch Lynch "Justice Department" :
The Injustice Department
The Obummer Administration is closing it's bad act with George Orwell's 1984 @#*$&# where the words mean the exact opposite.
War means Peace
Love means Hate
Slavery means freedom
Injustice means Justice
Who exactly does the Obummer Injustice department is committing the vast majority of crimes in 69% Black Baltimore:
Swedes?
Japanese?
The Amish?
Well let's review> Training issues have been plauged the department. The FTO program has struggled to keep or attain qualified P/Os to fill the ranks. Possible cures - D2A pay and a Rank to a step up to Sergeant. Problems Division and their supporters here on SCC don't want 80 some odd FTO's to make D2A. Many working FTOs are in slow districts over burdon with multiple PPOs in there vehicles. Cure let POs who want that extra pay and possible new job work and get paid to help out with training. Some suggestions sorry SCC didn't say stay fetal. Which is another contributing cost of poor training.
Ever been to Baltimore? It makes Chicago look like the Cleaver residence.
The feds will take over if killary wins,her 2nd term will see the death of the 2nd amendment,prepare.
heard the reason we weren't taken over a few years back was because J Fled was force fed to us instead of DOJ oversight.
Yo, this fuck eye fucked me, so I put a case on him. Oh, oh, not any more... I ride around and get eye fucked all night long in these shit neighborhoods. Back in the day, if the fuck on the back of one of the projects, you know, the lookout, didn't get the fuck inside the building when he saw us, he was in trouble, and you only had to do it once. The way things are now, if there were high rise projects here, we wouldn't be allowed to walk in them without a damn riot happening. But we are the problem...
8/11/2016 03:54:00 AM
Translation to English please?
Why are democrat run cities such cesspits of violence and racism?
It's all about race. The department would have to flood white neighborhoods with coppers and long form every white for jaywalking. But then the black and brown body count would go even higher. Whites would stop jaywalking after day 1of the Arrest Whitey Surge so they would have to find other crimes. Maybe a lawn watering ordinance. They could set up surveillance on every neighborhood tavern and call in enforcement as soon as someone steps outside with a beer in their hand to answer their cell phone. Just brainstorming here...
Riddle me this: how can the DOJ indict a whole Dept on conjecture, but they cannot charge one of these officers for a crime? If this Dept and all the others under consent are so horriblly evilly racist, how come not one member has been dragged out Mississippi Burning style? The proof is in the pudding, as they say, but the bowl is empty....
Yo, this fuck eye fucked me, so I put a case on him. Oh, oh, not any more... I ride around and get eye fucked all night long in these shit neighborhoods. Back in the day, if the fuck on the back of one of the projects, you know, the lookout, didn't get the fuck inside the building when he saw us, he was in trouble, and you only had to do it once. The way things are now, if there were high rise projects here, we wouldn't be allowed to walk in them without a damn riot happening. But we are the problem...
8/11/2016 03:54:00 AM
Huh?
Uh oh, LAPD gonna be back under another consent decree.....
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-vigil-lapd-police-shooting-boyle-heights-20160810-snap-story.html
After reading the DOJ report, wouldn't it make sense to pull half the PO's assigned to the south and Westside districts? Why do those districts have over 400 officers assigned to them and other districts have about half? If you don't want disproportionate numbers in the "poor" areas cut the police assigned to those areas! Give'em what the DOJ wants..let's see the results
Why do hospitals protect thug pos gang bangers?
http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/local/188204140-story
Can't we use a closed section of crook county's jail and load them here, tommy coward dart you have all the amenities for felonious pos let them experiment play Doctor and nurse transport them in back of dump trucks keep the hospital for citizens that deserve it and appreciate it respect police and innocent citizens!
More coming soon bullshit bringing more inflammatory black lies matter trash to chiraq:
http://fox8.com/2016/08/10/gazebo-where-tamir-rice-was-shot-will-be-taken-down-sent-to-art-museum-in-chicago/
If you don't want this garbage toss it honoring a kid with gun call police doing their jobs if your a CPD coppers and not fetal your a total idiot!
With the nitwits in charge of this Department, do you really think a federal decree can possibly be worse then under the current administration.
How could a Progressive Democrat Stronghold like Baltimore be such a Hotbed of Racism?
Baltimore has been run by Democrats for over fifty years.
Why is it a Racist Cesspool?
Why?
Some of the ftos are clueless. Teaching what exactly.. How to show a victim a single photo instead of a photo array. No Sgt involved no forms signed. This is just one example of our FTOS. Why put a ppo on the desk if fto is not around. Horrible idea. Put them with workers, let them see various styles, let them be exposed to various beats. Wtf is the desk teaching them. Why are they sent to slow districts let alone slow districts on days. Who the hell is running this circus. Disgusted
This says it all.
http://nypost.com/2016/08/11/obamas-justice-dept-did-a-clueless-hit-job-on-baltimore-cops/
Clueless DOJ with their liberal bias who offer no real workable solutions to policing in the inner city areas except to blame the police and pretend if we become fuzzy and warm crime will vanish. Hey media, ask the DOJ why homicides and shootings go up in cities with consent decrees. I would like to hear their answer to that.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Some of the ftos are clueless. Teaching what exactly.. How to show a victim a single photo instead of a photo array. No Sgt involved no forms signed. This is just one example of our FTOS. Why put a ppo on the desk if fto is not around. Horrible idea. Put them with workers, let them see various styles, let them be exposed to various beats. Wtf is the desk teaching them. Why are they sent to slow districts let alone slow districts on days. Who the hell is running this circus. Disgusted
Do you even know wtf you're talking about? Photo arrays are det jogs. You stroke
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