Hey Look - Charges
- Seeking the first official discipline in the 22 months since a Chicago police officer shot Laquan McDonald 16 times on video, police Superintendent Eddie Johnson on Tuesday moved to fire four patrol officers and a sergeant he accused of lying about the shooting.
Though the October 2014 shooting led to aftershocks that have shaken the Police Department from top to bottom, the city's first move for formal discipline focuses largely on street officers.
Nice to see the procedure has finally caught up with the findings.
Yes, that was sarcasm.
Yes, that was sarcasm.
Labels: general
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
118 Comments:
McDonald wasn't shot 16 times. 16 rounds fired yet all did not strike McDonald.
Rule one for democrats: never discipline the top brass, always go for the lowest peon possible.
This thing is so overwhelming anymore. Who cares .. Stay your ass fetal. Every other point is mute. I would be interested out of sheer curiosity to read those case reports where the Sup is saying they're lying. I want to see what he considered lying. Maybe they were or maybe they just had a different perceived experience of the incident. We will never know. One thing for sure, forcing the officers onscene to put something down on permanent record after an adrenaline dump without any cooling down period seems like the height of recklessness and liability.
A Sergeant. That is really going to teach the Captains, Lieutenants, and senior brass that they are being held accountable!!! ! /sarc.
Why no pic of the ex-reporter supposedly wearing a political statement at work at 35th. Maybe the mayors new copa can investigate that CR#. There has to be some foia'able video available.
Are they really going to try and fire a sergeant just for approving a TRR? That's considered a rule 14?
The next batch will be the dets to go. That will satisfy the public lynching. Lieutenants and above will skate, as we have seen already with some exempts.
Don't expect dets and brass to be your friend when you get involved in a shooting. Everyone now will be looking to save their own skins when conducting a shooting investigation. The McDonald shooting will be in the back of their minds now that they know that their heads also can be on the chopping block. Lastly, don't expect to have other coppers see your shooting from your perspective, for they too will be thinking about their own heads on the chopping block.
McDonald has ushered in a new era regarding officer involved shootings.
Can someone please explain the 18 shot tuesday night in like 4 hrs...ridiculous!!!
Just a thought SCC,but could this rash of stripping a police board cases be Rahms way of financially weakening the FOP? Each case prob costs the FOP 10-15,000 with discovery hearings and all that proceed the actual hearing. I know the Laquann strippings are all political but could the rest be another ploy by Rahm. Just a thought.
In the mean time we still have dumb fuckers who are clammering to go to the tact team or the saturation team. I just talked to an idiot yesterday. He told me that when officers get fired or charged, it is because they did not follow general orders. For some officers, you cant fix stupid.
Little side note... The Sup quietly allowed the Sgt from the D (DG) to resign yesterday so he could keep and cash out his 3,000 hours of comp time on the books. Interesting how the one guy who worked in 640 with the Sup while he, the Sup was a Sgt. there, was saved yet all the poor officers & Sgt from 008 are getting screwed. Goes to show you the discipline disparity between the clouted and the grunts.
The surest sign of wrongdoing is conflicting accounts...
-or-
The surest sign of conspiracy is a lack of conflicting accounts.
Pick whichever is suitable and hang everyone out to dry. New American is old Soviet. Get with the times.
OT -- Obama dumps more convicts back on the streets.........again.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-obama-commutes-terms-illinois-met-0831-20160830-story.html
Fundamentally, the man never had any respect for the law, and his last years in office are used to implement a scorched earth policy.
Did Eddie see the video and not start disciplinary action back then? That sounds like a CR number on him.
fck that...did the street officers review the video before making their witness statements--because everyone one above them DID and BEFORE they made a determination...oh thats right- just like the bosses involved in the koschman coverup- these useless pieces of crap all slithered away
Steve Sailer: On the Chicago Way.
It definitely is all over, We have reached the end point.
http://www.unz.com/isteve/the-new-chicago-way/
"Videophones, social media, the President, the press: all factors have come together to encourage these kind of dominance displays by street thugs.
If the cops whomp a mouthy teen, the video will go global. Hillary will retweet it.
If the cops don’t, the video will go local of the thugs showing off their street cred.
In this video, the cops behave as best they can, engaging in their own dominance display, slowly advancing ominously on the thugs.
But it’s a waste of time and emotional energy when the cops are there to investigate a shooting.
A more subtle effect of these dominance displays is to further terrify witnesses who might help the cops find the shooter. If the cops are barely in control of their own crime scenes, good luck to you when the cops go home and you are left behind with these guys."
He want's 2 fuck his own men, to cover up the fuckin Mayor's holding of the tape, fuck
this man, i got no respect for this piece of shit!
While all the exempts walk... Keep getting activity..
Joe, say it ain't so! Damn, Walsh just came to 376 and was pondering resigning. Nice guy. Sorry to see he went. We will miss you Joe down at 376. I wish you would have stuck it out.
Eddie J you are a dirtbag between you being involved at the scene as what? Was it Chief of Patrol (uncertain) but then all you fucking brass motherfuckers sign off on this shit? We know you reviewed all this prior to signing off as a "good shoot" then all your top brass retires? Then the LT exam issue? This whole department makes me fucking sick to my stomach. Literally. Fuck you too RHAMBO while I am at it. I am so glad I am independently secure from my business and am leaving your department in July of 2017.
Beach bound for Costa Rica and leaving in disgust.
A long suspension would have served a better purpose.
Sergeant was not a merit so he wasn't in the club .
Yet 2 high ranking white shirts get a heads up and were told to leave and save their pensions before the hammer dropped.
(OT)Trump ahead in the polls going to Mexico today:
http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/exclusive-trump-neto-meeting-confirmed/
Hope Trump has top notch security! The clinton factor could be after him!God bless pro-police Trump
If you look up the terms "trumped up" and "Kangaroo Court" in the dictionary the illustration they'd use would be this fiasco along with Rahm and Eddie's pictures.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Can someone please explain the 18 shot tuesday night in like 4 hrs...ridiculous!!!
8/31/2016 01:39:00 AM
Anonymous Lil george said...
They weren't shot by the police so "the community" and the BLM groups don't express outrage over that.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Can someone please explain the 18 shot tuesday night in like 4 hrs...ridiculous!!!
8/31/2016 01:39:00 AM
Business as usual in "the community"
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Are they really going to try and fire a sergeant just for approving a TRR? That's considered a rule 14?
8/31/2016 01:06:00 AM
Sgts. need to refuse signing any TRR which they have not directly witnessed.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This thing is so overwhelming anymore. Who cares .. Stay your ass fetal. Every other point is mute. I would be interested out of sheer curiosity to read those case reports where the Sup is saying they're lying. I want to see what he considered lying. Maybe they were or maybe they just had a different perceived experience of the incident. We will never know. One thing for sure, forcing the officers onscene to put something down on permanent record after an adrenaline dump without any cooling down period seems like the height of recklessness and liability.
8/31/2016 12:23:00 AM
All the reports are out there. Search Laquan McDonald scribd.
Can someone please explain the 18 shot tuesday night in like 4 hrs...ridiculous!!!
I say it's a trifecta of the ridiculous ISR requirement, fetalness, and our brass catering to the BLM clowns.
Well,,here has what it has come down to!!
To the knuckle head who wrote the comment below..With me being a detective with 30 years on do you really think I'm going to lie on any report and risk losing pension AND going to jail if you or any one else screws up ?? Why should I make up a story if a video shows different ?? If you're in the right then no reason for any one to lie...These are not my rules or any other detectives, it's just what we have to work with. And yes we are your friend but are you any other cops friend if you think they should lie for you or any one else ?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The next batch will be the dets to go. That will satisfy the public lynching. Lieutenants and above will skate, as we have seen already with some exempts.
Don't expect dets and brass to be your friend when you get involved in a shooting. Everyone now will be looking to save their own skins when conducting a shooting investigation. The McDonald shooting will be in the back of their minds now that they know that their heads also can be on the chopping block. Lastly, don't expect to have other coppers see your shooting from your perspective, for they too will be thinking about their own heads on the chopping block.
McDonald has ushered in a new era regarding officer involved shootings.
Lil george said...
Just a thought SCC,but could this rash of stripping a police board cases be Rahms way of financially weakening the FOP? Each case prob costs the FOP 10-15,000 with discovery hearings and all that proceed the actual hearing. I know the Laquann strippings are all political but could the rest be another ploy by Rahm. Just a thought.
How many officers do we have? How much does each officer pay in dues? Over how many years? This rash of police strippings is more of a recent trend. Finances for these situations should have been secured long ago. That 10-15,000 is just a drop in a bucket. Weak union leaders, that's the problem. Fuck FOP bring in the Teamsters.
P.S. Fuck Rahm to.
When they investigate the brass will they discover that Eddie-The Axe Man was in the exempt meeting the day after the McDonald shooting and that he, and all the other exempts,ruled it to be a justifiable shooting??
Will that ever hit the media?
Shouldn't Eddie-The Axe Man be stripping and investigating himself?
Maybe Lie-Tenant Fenner could head the investigation.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The next batch will be the dets to go. That will satisfy the public lynching. Lieutenants and above will skate, as we have seen already with some exempts.
Don't expect dets and brass to be your friend when you get involved in a shooting. Everyone now will be looking to save their own skins when conducting a shooting investigation. The McDonald shooting will be in the back of their minds now that they know that their heads also can be on the chopping block. Lastly, don't expect to have other coppers see your shooting from your perspective, for they too will be thinking about their own heads on the chopping block.
McDonald has ushered in a new era regarding officer involved shootings.
8/31/2016 01:08:00 AM
You are 100% right officer. The Laquan McDonald incident will forever alter the Chicago Police Department. If you are involved in a police involved shooting then your fellow officers, the sergeant, the bosses and the detectives are going to be worrying about themselves, their pensions, their mortgage payments and their families. There is one solution to all of our problems though. If I have to spell it out then you are dumber than a bag of flaming hot cheetos and purple grape soda.
And the 8 th district commander at the time was just promoted to 1st deputy. Keep working hard for these dickheads.
OT -- Obama dumps more convicts back on the streets.........again.
He has already freed (with 5 months to go) more prisoners than the last 10 U.S. presidents combined.
So that's the hope and change we've been waiting for. OK got it.
Rahm paid out $5 mil on a tape he did not see.
Rahm sat on the tape till after the election.
Now,he is the righteous Rahm, transparency and accountability
Ok Eddie you did a great job you let the big shots resign and fucked over the Sgt and Pos now do us a favor RESIGN useless piece of shit.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This thing is so overwhelming anymore. Who cares .. Stay your ass fetal. Every other point is mute. I would be interested out of sheer curiosity to read those case reports where the Sup is saying they're lying. I want to see what he considered lying. Maybe they were or maybe they just had a different perceived experience of the incident. We will never know. One thing for sure, forcing the officers onscene to put something down on permanent record after an adrenaline dump without any cooling down period seems like the height of recklessness and liability.
8/31/2016 12:23:00 AM
Well said!!!
This is nothing more than Monday morning quarterbacking due to politics.
What new evidence has come to light from the time the brass signed off on it as being justified, till today???
NOTHING, other than political pressure!!!
Lay low & watch out for each other.
The political hacks on the CPD care only about themselves!
I/F
This thing is so overwhelming anymore. Who cares .. Stay your ass fetal. Every other point is mute. I would be interested out of sheer curiosity to read those case reports where the Sup is saying they're lying. I want to see what he considered lying. Maybe they were or maybe they just had a different perceived experience of the incident. We will never know. One thing for sure, forcing the officers onscene to put something down on permanent record after an adrenaline dump without any cooling down period seems like the height of recklessness and liability.
++++++++++
How long before officers become just like the "witnesses" in the neighborhoods? "I didn't see nothing!" "I don't know nothing!"
Little side note... The Sup quietly allowed the Sgt from the D (DG) to resign yesterday so he could keep and cash out his 3,000 hours of comp time on the books. Interesting how the one guy who worked in 640 with the Sup while he, the Sup was a Sgt. there, was saved yet all the poor officers & Sgt from 008 are getting screwed. Goes to show you the discipline disparity
SAVED???? DG still looses his job no pension. No promotion to lt which he would have been in next class. Everyone looses in this political hack system called Chicago police department. So learn what you are talking about when you make a statement like that dummy!!!
"Don't expect dets and brass to be your friend when you get involved in a shooting. Everyone now will be looking to save their own skins when conducting a shooting investigation. The McDonald shooting will be in the back of their minds now that they know that their heads also can be on the chopping block. Lastly, don't expect to have other coppers see your shooting from your perspective, for they too will be thinking about their own heads on the chopping block."
Little boy....you just don't know.
Big Fish swim away again!
Anonymous Lil george said...
Just a thought SCC,but could this rash of stripping a police board cases be Rahms way of financially weakening the FOP? Each case prob costs the FOP 10-15,000 with discovery hearings and all that proceed the actual hearing. I know the Laquann strippings are all political but could the rest be another ploy by Rahm. Just a thought.
8/31/2016 05:20:00 AM
That might be a happy by-product for Rahm, but his reason for ordering (yes, I said it, he's running the show through Eddie the Puppet) everyone's firing is political expediency, plain and simple.
The public was calling for his head on a stick a few short months ago, demanding a recall vote, and now all eyes have shifted to the bad, bad police and Rahm is out of the scalding pot of water. He will do WHATEVER it takes to salvage his pitiful political career. Expect more of this. He is toxic.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why no pic of the ex-reporter supposedly wearing a political statement at work at 35th. Maybe the mayors new copa can investigate that CR#. There has to be some foia'able video available.
8/31/2016 12:40:00 AM
Her job is liaison with 'the community'. She'll wear that shirt over and over again. Get a picture next time, or the time after that. She's not going anywhere.
Talking to a few states attorneys at 26 St, the number of new cases coming in are down dramatically. It has even affected the suburban courts, the suburban cops are slowing down also!
Anon 6:52AM
46,000 federally convicted drug dealers are being given early release:
https://www.themarshallproject.org/2015/10/06/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-new-federal-prisoner-release#.u9JA5Mef3
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Anonymous Anonymous said...
In the mean time we still have dumb fuckers who are clammering to go to the tact team or the saturation team. I just talked to an idiot yesterday. He told me that when officers get fired or charged, it is because they did not follow general orders. For some officers, you cant fix stupid
I spoke with an officer not too long ago from the 22nd district. This tactical warrior from such a fast paced district said " i am a worker and I will always be one." And he proceeded to tell me how much he hated lazy dogs. My goal for the day is to try and go I.O.D and if that fails is to try and do as little as possible without the bosses bothering me. Ive perfected that and now i just sit and watch movies on my phone and make up blue contact cards while running plates and not pulling them over.
DOG 3rd watch 009
Can someone please explain the 18 shot tuesday night in like 4 hrs...ridiculous!!!
8/31/2016 01:39:00 AM
I can. Pieces of shit like to shoot each other. They do this without giving a shit if it's Tuesday. If you want a deeper explanation... bad parenting, too many handouts, lax sentencing, neutered police, useless Democrats in charge, easy access to illegal guns, culture of violence and stupidity, no snitching, blame-shifting, excuse-making, and a lack of morals. There's more, but that's a good start. Oh yeah... and those damn Amish!
Rahm gets to skates again..
Lying on a police report???? Does that include cheating on promotional test and defrauding taxpayers out of additional money that you did not honestly earn. I is a sad day when police officers cheat, get promoted and nobody will investigate them. Then again nobody investigated Holder in the fast and furious gun scandal either. Must be a combination of race card and clout, but either way is sickening and rotten to the core. To all you cheaters out there every paycheck you collect just raises the amount of money you have stolen from the taxpayers of the city of chicago. You are a pathetic bunch but those who turn a blind eye and refuse to prosecute are even more pathetic. This would be a perfect starting point for the doj to affect complete and positive change to the chicago police department. Anyone left with a set of balls out there. Can someone set up a special blog that deals only with police promotional exam cheating?
When does the JVK trial start? If he is acquitted things could obviously get really out of hand. Do the wise white shirts have any type of plan on controlling the mayhem???
(OT) at least some towns appreciate their police no of course not anti-police chiraq! Not when you have a mayor and exempt staff that are total failures and disrespectful to working police officers:
http://abc7chicago.com/society/police-gift-5-year-old-boy-with-car-after-he-buys-them-lunch/1492515/
OT -- Obama dumps more convicts back on the streets.........again.
Elections have consequences
OT -- Obama dumps more convicts back on the streets.........again.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-obama-commutes-terms-illinois-met-0831-20160830-story.html
Fundamentally, the man never had any respect for the law, and his last years in office are used to implement a scorched earth policy.
____________________________
What exiting president hasn't commuted sentences?
Been retired a long time but doesn't all the exempts have their signatures of approval on these reports? Why no mention of this? From the SGT, LT, WC, DC, Dets, Chiefs, ADS, Supt, ETC? Someone should explain this to the public! These guys on the chopping block should not be standing alone!
Little side note... The Sup quietly allowed the Sgt from the D (DG) to resign yesterday so he could keep and cash out his 3,000 hours of comp time on the books. Interesting how the one guy who worked in 640 with the Sup while he, the Sup was a Sgt. there, was saved yet all the poor officers & Sgt from 008 are getting screwed. Goes to show you the discipline disparity between the clouted and the grunts.
That's how merit works! Watch out for those that know where your skeletons hide
The dept offered the opportunity for all involved to resign and have it not be designated as "under investigation." They would like all of those involved to just go away. A hearing will bring the truth and as the say Rahm can't handle the truth
In the mean time we still have dumb fuckers who are clammering to go to the tact team or the saturation team. I just talked to an idiot yesterday. He told me that when officers get fired or charged, it is because they did not follow general orders. For some officers, you cant fix stupid.
Answer: that so-called idiot was right, what general order said to lie about what happened, cover up wrong-doing, unload a clip on someone laying on the ground or shoot at a speeding car while crossfiring at your partner and the other officers arriving on the scene? Prove the so-called idiot wrong or shut up.
So these Officers are lying and the Special Ed, not as highly ranked back then, signed off on the reports ruling the shooting justified.
Doesn't that also make him liar? Or is lying only a bad thing when the Officer on the street actually confronting the criminal element does it?
J.J.
The findings were made up by Rahm awhile ago.
What a crooked, rigged system.
I understand that the Sgt. was the only supervisor on the street that night. 008 is one of the biggest districts in Chicago. They sure are screwing him.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT -- Obama dumps more convicts back on the streets.........again.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-obama-commutes-terms-illinois-met-0831-20160830-story.html
Fundamentally, the man never had any respect for the law, and his last years in office are used to implement a scorched earth policy.
8/31/2016 06:52:00 AM
Many of those being freed were convicted of possessing guns during the commission of their offenses. How will rahm and mike pfleger reconcile this with their campaigns against the evils of guns. Will they speak out against what BHO is doing or is he off limits to criticism. A Black man unleashing death and destruction onto his own people. What does BLM really mean??
Anonymous Anonymous said...
And the 8 th district commander at the time was just promoted to 1st deputy. Keep working hard for these dickheads.
8/31/2016 10:33:00 AM
Wrong.
Kevin Navarro is 1st Deputy and I don't believe he was ever DC of 008.
You are correct in the fact that the D.C. of 008 at the time of the shooting has continued to ascend through the department though.
I spoke with an officer not too long ago from the 22nd district. This tactical warrior from such a fast paced district said " i am a worker and I will always be one." And he proceeded to tell me how much he hated lazy dogs. My goal for the day is to try and go I.O.D and if that fails is to try and do as little as possible without the bosses bothering me. Ive perfected that and now i just sit and watch movies on my phone and make up blue contact cards while running plates and not pulling them over.
DOG 3rd watch 009
8/31/2016 01:26:00 PM
I hope you're not an officer because you appear to be a complete moron. Lying on reports and chasing vehicle is most stupidest things that get officers fired and you're boasting with pride. I hope your ass get caught and fired, stupid ass.........
How long before officers become just like the "witnesses" in the neighborhoods? "I didn't see nothing!" "I don't know nothing!"
8/31/2016 11:24:00 AM
Yep. Looks like a lot of blue-shirts are soon to be Sergeants.
They'll be just like this guy:
http://cdn.meme.am/instances/64689154.jpg
As long as it's pensionable . . .
After turning on all cameras and mics in your squad How can you be absolutely sure that the system is WORKING?
I mean if anyone has the answer please share.
Does anybody know?
Juan Gabriel RIP.
"""Can someone please explain the 18 shot tuesday night in like 4 hrs...ridiculous!!!"""
High humidity.
Well how many will still pony up and bail out Tiny dancer on Labor day with O/t? .. Rahmbo counting on scmucks to bail out his short changing police force and Chicago Taxpayers
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT -- Obama dumps more convicts back on the streets.........again.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-obama-commutes-terms-illinois-met-0831-20160830-story.html
Fundamentally, the man never had any respect for the law, and his last years in office are used to implement a scorched earth policy.
____________________________
What exiting president hasn't commuted sentences?
8/31/2016 03:10:00 PM
They all have but dumbo has the distinction of commuting more sentences than the previous 6 presidents COMBINED.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT -- Obama dumps more convicts back on the streets.........again.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-obama-commutes-terms-illinois-met-0831-20160830-story.html
Fundamentally, the man never had any respect for the law, and his last years in office are used to implement a scorched earth policy.
____________________________
What exiting president hasn't commuted sentences?
8/31/2016 03:10:00 PM
All previous presidents have but dumbo has commuted more sentences than the previous 7 presidents COMBINED and the totals in the below link only go up to June this year.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2016/03/30/president-obama-has-now-commuted-sentences-348-individuals. What you say now
Everyone is glossing over the fact, if VanDyke hadn't overreacted and emptied a clip into McDonald everyone would still have their jobs including him.
What exiting president hasn't commuted sentences?
8/31/2016 03:10:00 PM
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They've all pardoned a few, but Obama is out of control.....more than the last 9 presidents combined, and he still has the rest of the year. After the election he could triple the rate.
http://theweek.com/speedreads/640788/president-obama-now-commuted-more-prison-sentences-than-last-9-presidents-combined
And let's not forget who he learned it all from – the Clintons, who would pardon Satan himself if there was a “contibution” in it:
http://nypost.com/2016/01/17/after-pardoning-criminal-marc-rich-clintons-made-millions-off-friends/
just sit and watch movies on my phone and make up blue contact cards while running plates and not pulling them over.
DOG 3rd watch 009
............
Sounds like you want to be fired
"...Don't expect dets and brass to be your friend when you get involved in a shooting. Everyone now will be looking to save their own skins when conducting a shooting investigation..."
Not correct. Once the facts are summarily gathered and put on your case report, a thorough investigator nitpicks those statements and should scurtinize on your behalf. You had better get your facts straight, correct and truthful. Any Detective that takes your word without a proper interrogation would be a fool. Way too many hard chargers are bringing in bullshit felonies that are pushing the misdemeanor guidelines. Too many hard chargers jumping on paper and disappearing without an interview.
You can bet your ass it won't be me getting a rubber stamp approval.
You can now also be assured the DOJ gets to go over the facts will even a finer tooth comb.
So don't expect a pat on the back anymore, from anybody for bringing in those forcible felonies.
If you're really worried about your own skin, keep it holstered and don't get involved.
It's not worth it.
I recall when the commander of 007 would order sergeants and lieutenants to sign off on reports or do things that were in direct violation of general orders. He did this because he was doing favors for political friends or just because he felt like it. Some resisted him and asked him to order them in writing. Of course, this commander would not put anything in writing himself. He tried to retaliate against those who refused his unlawful order. But, he just went and found someone else who would do his bidding. And, that included released felons with no charges. Learn from this. If you think the order is unlawful refuse to go along with it unless you are ordered in writing or make such a note in the report that you were ordered to do so and it is wrong.
Try lying on a report while employed as a Illinois State Police officer and see the suspension times or termination of employment that are handed down. They're not as nice as CPD when it comes to that matter. DUI while employed as a trooper??? Immediate suspension and no pay status. That applies to many of the suburbs also. The CPD officers live in la la land when it comes down to this shit.
OT -- Update on The Death Of Western Civilization --
"The Jungle" refugee camp is located right next to a strategic, high-security area -- the port road to Calais, and the entrances to the Channel tunnels. Insanely, two more camps are to be built in the heart of Paris -- next to a main railroad station.
"Two Afghans were stabbed on Monday in a clash between rival migrant gangs in Calais trying to board lorries bound for the UK. The men were part of a larger group confronted by Sudanese migrants in The Jungle camp. The fight was over positions the gangs occupy at the roadside during nightly attempts to leap on to lorries heading to Britain. Hundreds, many armed with chainsaws and knives, blockade the main road into the French port each night with burning tyres and trees, forcing drivers to stop.
"Aid workers say The Jungle is a ‘pressure cooker waiting to blow’. Its population has soared from 4,500 in June to almost 10,000."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3767350/Next-stop-Britain-Thousands-UK-bound-migrants-two-new-camps-near-Gare-du-Nord-Paris-prompting-fears-trains.html
...and many more are on the way.
"10,000 migrants are rescued from the Med in three days as refugees 'race against the clock' to reach Europe in calm weather before summer ends. Hundreds of bodies of migrants who drowned after being dumped in the water from unseaworthy vessels washed up on Libyan beaches. For fear of the spread of disease, civil society groups and local residents gave them anonymous burials...
"The total number of arrivals in Italy this year now stands at 112,500, according to the UN refugee agency and the coast guard, slightly below the 116,000 recorded by the same point in 2015...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3766917/10-000-migrants-rescued-Med-three-days-refugees-race-against-clock-reach-Europe-calm-weather-summer-ends.html
"...what general order said to lie about what happened, cover up wrong-doing, unload a clip on someone laying on the ground or shoot at a speeding car while crossfiring at your partner and the other officers arriving on the scene?"
8/31/2016 03:27:00 PM
Got "clips" in your "prowl car," do you?
"Prove the so-called idiot wrong or shut up."
Woooo.
Talking to a few states attorneys at 26 St, the number of new cases coming in are down dramatically. It has even affected the suburban courts, the suburban cops are slowing down also!
8/31/2016 12:39:00 PM
I am a suburban cop and that statement is correct. I can't tell you how much the stay fetal rallying cry has infected all cops in cook county. It was common to see a couple of dozen cops on my felony key just a few years ago....now you might see a few. With Hilary and Fox coming down the chute it's simply foolish to do police work.
Don't expect dets and brass to be your friend when you get involved in a shooting. Everyone now will be looking to save their own skins when conducting a shooting investigation. The McDonald shooting will be in the back of their minds now that they know that their heads also can be on the chopping block. Lastly, don't expect to have other coppers see your shooting from your perspective, for they too will be thinking about their own heads on the chopping block.
I've been doing the above for over twenty years. It was made very clear to me that I wasn't part of the gang, so expect me to be part of it now.
How to spot if society is DOOMED: Researchers reveal the signs that show civilization is set to collapse
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"It has been seen all throughout human history – a bustling community experiences a population boom and technological advancement until, seemingly overnight, it plummets into total collapse."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3767950/How-spot-society-DOOMED-Researchers-reveal-signs-civilization-set-collapse.html
Yet 2 high ranking white shirts get a heads up and were told to leave and save their pensions before the hammer Dropped
And Sup. Johnson sent a city wide thank you via the clear system to the guy they made the fall guy - McN. How does that happen. ? He's was supposed to be the evil genius behind this - yet he gets a resounding pat on the back on the way out ? Hey you're the fall guy, but great job and great career ? Johnson sucks
Little side note... The Sup quietly allowed the Sgt from the D (DG) to resign yesterday so he could keep and cash out his 3,000 hours of comp time on the books. Interesting how the one guy who worked in 640 with the Sup while he, the Sup was a Sgt. there, was saved yet all the poor officers & Sgt from 008 are getting screwed. Goes to show you the discipline disparity between the clouted and the grunts.
Listen idiot...any of those officers could resign if they wished to...It had nothing to do with clout...The last thing that Sgt. wanted to do is resign...But if your stripped you lose your hours on the books. Shut your mouth, obviously you don't know what your talking about.
Little side note... The Sup quietly allowed the Sgt from the D (DG) to resign yesterday so he could keep and cash out his 3,000 hours of comp time on the books. Interesting how the one guy who worked in 640 with the Sup while he, the Sup was a Sgt. there, was saved yet all the poor officers & Sgt from 008 are getting screwed. Goes to show you the discipline disparity between the clouted and the grunts.
That's how merit works! Watch out for those that know where your skeletons hide
Shut the Fck Up...you dont know what your talking about...(DG) was promoted by passing and was going to be in the next Lt. Class by passing the test. Shut your mouth if you don't know what your talking about.
Been retired a long time but doesn't all the exempts have their signatures of approval on these reports?
Dear sir....You're lucky you got out when U did. God Bless U. Things change here on a daily basis now, and no really knows what the agenda is. Those reports will never see the light of day. they are by now protected from viewing..they are calling this a conspiracy. People will disappear, and get promoted, someone will take the fall...But it wont be anybody that signed off on that report. BTW....its all done by computer now. No body signs...You log in and click approved. Then U print out 10 copies (in a paperless system)8-10 pages, on one side of a piece of paper leaving the other side blank. The printer jams halfway through, and you trash the job, and hit reprint. then everyone gets a copy of a document that they could draw up on a computer if they can find one that works, and print it themselves.
It's simple really......
well folks we did it. we had the arson over the weekend in 009 that killed 2. Those have yet to be re-classified as murders even though we all know that they will be quietly reclassified sometime in september but hey, lets call it what it is, two murders for august. That brought the number of murders for august up to 88. today we had a homicide in 008 bringing it up to 89 and with only two hours left in the month 002 comes in with number 90 at 40th and Lake Park. So its official, 90 murders for the month of august folks. But hey ACLU, decreasing stops have NOTHING to do with crime spiking right??? Stops are down 90 percent from this time last year folks but hey its the fault of the police that people were getting stopped too much and now its the fault of the police that murders are up. Hey, you cant have it both ways. You can choose which you want.. gang bangers getting inconvenienced and checked out for a few minutes and putting them in jail when they break the law or letting those same gang members go unchecked to create what we now have in the city which is chaos and in some cases absolutly innocent people getting shot or killed. Not to mention all the normal people getting robbed and apple picked at will downtown and on the northside. good luck chicago, youre gonna need it.
Doesn't the public naming of the officers stripped in the latest round violate Section 6.9 of the FOP contract?
"The identity of an Officer under investigation shall not be made available to the media unless there has been a criminal conviction or a decision has been rendered by the Police Board (or by the Superintendent),
except where required by law...."
Also as another posted about all these strippings being a tactic by the City to financially hamstring the FOP may have merit.
Baltimore FOP faced similar issues in the trial of the 6 officers. Their membership voted for a dues increase.
Think we would be that united??
Charges and father flakey wants "state of emergency" for chiraq:
http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/local/198391854-story
What does that entail?
Hey SCC piece up at Hot Air Chicago gangs and how gangbangers are no longer afraid of police
whoops I spoke too soon. Seems that we dont have 90 murders for august, we now have 91.. 008 just came in with its SECOND murder of the day with one at 67th and keeler with only 1 hour left in the month.
Anyone see pflager telling dean Angelo to "go to hell"? This is a priest? The cardinal needs to step in on this one. Letters should be sent to the archdiocese. Just like we are reprimanded so should he.
I hope the troops are taking up a collection for these stripped officers.
If their was a cover up the videos would not exist,You dont make up shit that contradicts the vidio...
Obama='s worst president since Taft.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
just sit and watch movies on my phone and make up blue contact cards while running plates and not pulling them over.
DOG 3rd watch 009
Yea that'll show them. Just rule 14 yourself over and over again you fuckin idiot. It's not like you have a camera on your car showing you not pulling people over. Dumbass.
And the 8 th district commander at the time was just promoted to 1st deputy. Keep working hard for these dickheads.
8/31/2016 10:33:00 AM
Although I don't agree with all the libtards that aid in controlling the city, you just sound plain frickin retarded speaking without knowing facts. Do us all a favor and stop wasting you little brain cells you have left forming your thoughts into sentences for us. While your at it, go eat a bag of dicks.
-D
OT -- Obama dumps more convicts back on the streets.........again.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-obama-commutes-terms-illinois-met-0831-20160830-story.html
Fundamentally, the man never had any respect for the law, and his last years in office are used to implement a scorched earth policy.
____________________________
What exiting president hasn't commuted sentences?
8/31/2016 03:10:00 PM
Hey dummy, which part of this president has commutted the sentences of 673 convicted felons, more than the last 10 presidents combined do you not understand?
That line "if you're stripped, you lose your hours" may not be the last word on the subject.
Just because the City and Department say you are screwed out of your money, there are State and Federal labor laws. And in the case of the Sgt with 3,000 hours the IRS may want it piece of that cake.
"I can't tell you how much the stay fetal rallying cry has infected all cops in cook county."
8/31/2016 08:47:00 PM
...and we have Rahm Emanuel to thank for the "fetal" meme.
In the meantime, Hillary's "superpredators" will remain feral, no matter how often Pfleger has their defenders lay down in the middle of 79th St. playing "stop the violence" as a smokescreen.
Oh. Thanks also to Hillary for that last.
http://www.activistpost.com/2016/08/manufactured-civil-unrest-leaked-docs-prove-the-real-goal-is-federalizing-americas-police.html
Live well and long and party on the bosses graves- they're not all from New York or New Jersey- some will be buried here in chicago - set an obituary notice to notify you if a certain name has an obituary- then go to their grave and have a party!!! Thank god for the internet !!
Listen idiot...any of those officers could resign if they wished to...It had nothing to do with clout...The last thing that Sgt. wanted to do is resign...But if your stripped you lose your hours on the books. Shut your mouth, obviously you don't know what your talking about.
Listen Idiot, not every one has 3000 hrs on the books and not everyone involved has the time, and not everyone has the age to just up and leave. So, stop drinking the kool-aide. You know that there is two different types of discipline on this job and always has been. Wonder why the 1 guy was spared from being fired, I wonder who his juice is ?
After turning on all cameras and mics in your squad How can you be absolutely sure that the system is WORKING?
I mean if anyone has the answer please share.
Does anybody know?
8/31/2016 06:03:00 PM
Well, there's that whole thing where you're supposed to test it at the beginning and end of your tour. And then there's the opportunity to review any videos you may have made during your tour. It's really not that hard to figure out if it's all working. The body cameras are a little tougher, but you can reasonably assume it's working if the lights and sounds are all working as they should. Want me to walk you through tying your shoes next?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
That line "if you're stripped, you lose your hours" may not be the last word on the subject.
Just because the City and Department say you are screwed out of your money, there are State and Federal labor laws. And in the case of the Sgt with 3,000 hours the IRS may want it piece of that cake.
9/01/2016 01:00:00 AM
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yes, the IRS will want a piece. It's called "income tax." Thanks for the insight.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Don't expect dets and brass to be your friend when you get involved in a shooting. Everyone now will be looking to save their own skins when conducting a shooting investigation. The McDonald shooting will be in the back of their minds now that they know that their heads also can be on the chopping block. Lastly, don't expect to have other coppers see your shooting from your perspective, for they too will be thinking about their own heads on the chopping block.
I've been doing the above for over twenty years. It was made very clear to me that I wasn't part of the gang, so expect me to be part of it now.
8/31/2016 08:49:00 PM
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sorry, but I have to say this ...
how in the hell can the Det. watch that video and then read the coppers reports (what reports did they generate anyway?) that contradict the video? He didn't say anything to the beat cops?
seriously, how did this play out?
I understand the one car would do a justifiable homicide report, but what about the other cops? Were they TRR's ?
Anyone see pflager telling dean Angelo to "go to hell"? This is a priest? The cardinal needs to step in on this one. Letters should be sent to the archdiocese. Just like we are reprimanded so should he.
8/31/2016 11:32:00 PM
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The part that is best is Sabina's Fr,PFaker almost crying about the shortage of Police ..Labor Day weekend...LOL.. Beware ...........Skilling saying upper 80s-90 very Humid... Temps
Stop giving money to Archdiocese .They take a 11 % of what you donate to church
Seems like arson is the new drive by!!!!
As a retired officer, I can just sit back and shake my head in wonder and disgust as to the status of the department. I have seen officers color their reports now and then ( I won't say lying as it is hard to say with confidence exactly what another person sees). Many times it did seem like people just did this without thinking. I wish these officers in this shooting case would be given a pass and the entire department given a reset and put on notice that it won't be tolerated anymore. Afterall, they are working for a department in a city in a county and in a state that is known for its political lying and corruption. These things and the atmosphere flow down hill. The two tiered discipline systems that has been around for decades sure does not help in this.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Charges and father flakey wants "state of emergency" for chiraq:
http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/local/198391854-story
What does that entail?
8/31/2016 10:36:00 PM
That entails him flying the U.S. flag upside down again, getting lots more publicity, getting more donations from Hollywood bleeding hearts and... well... not much else.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Little side note... The Sup quietly allowed the Sgt from the D (DG) to resign yesterday so he could keep and cash out his 3,000 hours of comp time on the books. Interesting how the one guy who worked in 640 with the Sup while he, the Sup was a Sgt. there, was saved yet all the poor officers & Sgt from 008 are getting screwed. Goes to show you the discipline disparity between the clouted and the grunts
Another poster who does nt know a F$%^ing thing. You just want to post inaccurate bulls%^&. At anytime before the commencement of the police board hearing you can retire/resign. You do not forfeit your comp time unless you are FIRED. ANd actually you can retire or resign up until they rule.
As far as your slant on the Sgt. you should really really just STFU
Rahm's pandering is incessant and endless.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Listen idiot...any of those officers could resign if they wished to...It had nothing to do with clout...The last thing that Sgt. wanted to do is resign...But if your stripped you lose your hours on the books. Shut your mouth, obviously you don't know what your talking about.
Listen Idiot, not every one has 3000 hrs on the books and not everyone involved has the time, and not everyone has the age to just up and leave. So, stop drinking the kool-aide. You know that there is two different types of discipline on this job and always has been. Wonder why the 1 guy was spared from being fired, I wonder who his juice is ?
Idiot. Idiot??
Two calling each other idiot??
What's next-Sticks and stones??
(but 3,000 hours? c'mon now??)
Previous brain child claims:
Try lying on a report while employed as a Illinois State Police officer and see the suspension times or termination of employment that are handed down. They're not as nice as CPD when it comes to that matter. DUI while employed as a trooper??? Immediate suspension and no pay status. That applies to many of the suburbs also. The CPD officers live in la la land when it comes down to this shit.
Jealous, not to be CPD obviously...!
"Listen idiot...any of those officers could resign if they wished to...It had nothing to do with clout...The last thing that Sgt. wanted to do is resign...But if your stripped you lose your hours on the books. Shut your mouth, obviously you don't know what your talking about."
Listen even closer idiot. If you're stripped, you do not lose hours on the books, that happens when you are separated by the police board. Shut your mouth and know your contact. He could have stayed and resigned just before the case went to the board, a la Denis "the penis" Walsh.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Listen idiot...any of those officers could resign if they wished to...It had nothing to do with clout...The last thing that Sgt. wanted to do is resign...But if your stripped you lose your hours on the books. Shut your mouth, obviously you don't know what your talking about.
Listen Idiot, not every one has 3000 hrs on the books and not everyone involved has the time, and not everyone has the age to just up and leave. So, stop drinking the kool-aide. You know that there is two different types of discipline on this job and always has been. Wonder why the 1 guy was spared from being fired, I wonder who his juice is ?
Idiot. Idiot??
Two calling each other idiot??
What's next-Sticks and stones??
(but 3,000 hours? c'mon now??)
Yeah,,,Any of them can resign from the job. Everyone who was stripped has the right to go in and resign....He doesn't have enough time. He resigned without a pension, That's what he got, his time and no longer has his career. Nobody did him any favors. If he was to get stripped, he loses his hours.
It's 3,000 hours, you get about 130 in holidays every year and a Sgt. gets .75 every day he works. In fifteen years it is quite easy to accumulate that amount. Also if you hit the time box also when you work OT.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Listen idiot...any of those officers could resign if they wished to...It had nothing to do with clout...The last thing that Sgt. wanted to do is resign...But if your stripped you lose your hours on the books. Shut your mouth, obviously you don't know what your talking about.
Listen Idiot, not every one has 3000 hrs on the books and not everyone involved has the time, and not everyone has the age to just up and leave. So, stop drinking the kool-aide. You know that there is two different types of discipline on this job and always has been. Wonder why the 1 guy was spared from being fired, I wonder who his juice is ?
Idiot. Idiot??
Two calling each other idiot??
What's next-Sticks and stones??
(but 3,000 hours? c'mon now??)
9/01/2016 04:33:00 PM
Sigh . . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAeqVGP-GPM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Re: "Jealous, not to be CPD obviously...!" I am CPD you idiot. I'm using ISP and other agencies as an example of the bullshit they don't tolerate.
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