Monday, August 22, 2016

ISP Shooting

  • An Illinois State Police trooper shot and wounded a teenager in a stolen car Saturday evening after its driver attempted to run the trooper over, according to state police.

    Troopers on Saturday evening had been pursuing the vehicle, which was reported stolen at gunpoint in Chicago earlier in the day.

    The chase lasted until about 6:50 p.m., when the vehicle stopped in traffic on the Chinatown feeder ramp.

    State police approached it, at which point the driver attempted to run over a trooper, according to police.

    The trooper fired shots at the vehicle, which continued to drive away. The trooper was "fearing for his life," according to a statement from state police.
Some "good Samaritan" spotted the young 15-year-old scamp fleeing the scene and offered him a lift to Stroger where he was arrested. Two weapons were also recovered.

There are going to be a bunch of comparisons to the recent CPD shooting, but remember, these are two different agencies. We don't know the ISP policy and if it is more in line with State Law as opposed to being more restrictive as CPD is.

In any event, nice job by the trooper.

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26 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I imagine that CPD is going by more modern, PC, kinder and gentler ROE, than the state troopers are. After all Rahm is well aware of the value of black lives and votes.

8/22/2016 12:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I loved the idiot on Ch 7 news who witnessed things when they got to Wabash and Roosevelt. He said he's never been so scared, but it didn't cause him to take cover. He kept on video recording things on his phone.

8/22/2016 12:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ISP can still shoot at cars. We can't. Our department policy is more restrictive. Bottom line you want to shoot at cars, join ISP. Chicago SUX........

8/22/2016 12:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So Special Ed can't strip this guy, I wonder if Ed will beef to the ISP?

8/22/2016 03:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stolen at Gunpoint.

Do the CPD rules allow you to pursue a car where the armed thief threatened to kill someone?

What if the poor victim's kids were inside? Or are they just collateral damage?

Let me know before I ever foolishly drive into the warzone please.

8/22/2016 03:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Eddie, pay attention to how the ISP treats its officers.

Notice they won't FUCKING THROW THEM UNDER A BUS.

You asshole.

8/22/2016 05:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC - Interesting to watch the Sunday morning local news coverage of this incident. Reporters seemed restrained describing the ISP actions and did portray the offenders as offenders instead of rolling out the 8th grade graduation photo in cap & gown. Also interesting was the on scene appearance of several #blm protestors who were dutifully videoed as if a throng of protestors arrived. They probably are monitoring scanner traffic in order to quickly start their crap.
Glad no troopers were hurt. Hopefully people will start seeing fleeing vehicles as weapons instead of a circus act. But if ISP has two or three similar shootings the media will probably crucify them as well.
Then we'll see the other side of Gov. (I cried when I saw the McDonald tape) Rauner.

Retired .38 spl +P

8/22/2016 05:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nice shot trooper. You fired into a moving car and hit your target in the neck. That's impressive.

8/22/2016 06:29:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

I could call Leo to find out if you like.

8/22/2016 06:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Citizen reader: I don't get it and I have wondered before. If State law provides a legal basis for using deadly force to stop a fleeing felon but Chicago Police policy says you cannot, doesn't the police policy violate the law? If true, why are those cops who shot that asshole who is part of a gang burglarizng and stealing cars in Bolingbrook? Someone told me it is because the use of force policy can be more restrictive than the law but it would seem to me if you cannot shoot it is actually less restrictive so I am skeptical of that answer. So the question is if policy conflicts with law, how can you envoke a policy?

8/22/2016 07:13:00 AM  
Anonymous outside lookin' in said...

Different policies don't make sense. CPD has one set and ISP has another? The big question by the "protestor" groups is going to be, "Why?"

Not OK for CPD to shoot and OK for ISP???

8/22/2016 07:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

amazing how WGN covered this incidence without all the hysterics.

8/22/2016 08:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I do not have a problem with the way that ISP is handling this. I do have a problem with the media with virtually the same set of circumstances, throwing CPD under the bus while giving the montana peak guys a pass.

8/22/2016 08:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Saw the video and from that perspective it would be better to say, "I shot at a fleeing felon who was trying to defeat being arrested by fleeing in vehicle and armed."

8/22/2016 08:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good job let's move on fuck that 15 year old punk !

8/22/2016 09:21:00 AM  
Blogger Cuthbert J. Twillie said...

A fifteen year old kid and homies carjack someone at GUN POINT then once again try to run over the police when stopped. Here's something that should be tried to lower this nonsense from these people: .......
--- 1) Every arrest of a 'minor' means a 10% CUT in ALL Welfare benefits, specifically including SSI, Medicaid & Food Stamps, to the (cough)**responsible adult**(cough). Be it momma, auntie, or dear old Granny!
--- 2) Every arrest of a (cough)**adult**(cough) living on their own means a 25% CUT in ALL Welfare benefits, specifically including SSI, Medicaid & Food Stamps.
--- 3) Every Misdemeanor Conviction of a 'minor' means a 20% CUT in ALL Welfare benefits, specifically including SSI, Medicaid & Food Stamps, to the (cough)**responsible adult**(cough).
------ 3a) Every Felony Conviction of a 'minor' means a 40% CUT in all Welfare benefits.
--- 4) Every Felony Conviction of a (cough)**adult**(cough) living on their own means a 50% CUT in ALL Welfare benefits, specifically including SSI, Medicaid & Food Stamps after they're released from prison.

Take away their FREE shit and they'll straighten up in a heart beat. This was proven in the late 1990's when 'Welfare To Work' was passed -- and ENFORCED. Most did find jobs and got off welfare. The generational Freeloaders who refused to even look for a job moved to greener pastures like Wisconsin who continued to hand out free shit to anyone.

Again, enforcement is the key. Commit a crime and you, or Granny, lose that gubmint money. And Drug Testing should be goddamned Mandatory for all wefare. F--k the democrats and their -- 'That's Racist. You hate black people.' -- bullshit

8/22/2016 09:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where is the media outcry on this one?

8/22/2016 10:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I loved the idiot on Ch 7 news who witnessed things when they got to Wabash and Roosevelt. He said he's never been so scared, but it didn't cause him to take cover. He kept on video recording things on his phone.

8/22/2016 12:52:00 AM

I've been to two different community meetings where the organizers stressed how you should video the crime so you can show it to the police. Those of us with some sense loudly reminded the speakers that you should flee to a place of safety, not stand in the open like a moron with your phone in your hands.

This generation might as well be surgically attached to their damned phones.

8/22/2016 10:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

4 thugs & 2 guns in a stolen car. Thank you to all the officers involved for helping the citizens stay safe.

8/22/2016 12:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Eddie, pay attention to how the ISP treats its officers.

Notice they won't FUCKING THROW THEM UNDER A BUS.

You asshole.

8/22/2016 05:05:00 AM

Well somebody's never been on ISPeeved.

8/22/2016 12:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Nice shot trooper. You fired into a moving car and hit your target in the neck. That's impressive.

8/22/2016 06:29:00 AM

Possibly...

8/22/2016 12:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did you all read the pro thug, pro BLM, pro dope smoking in public anti cop story in the scum times. The sun times so called watchdog reporter Dumke just gave the bad guys more ammunition to blame the cops for profiling the poor blacks that have to smoke pot in public. Wonder why he did it? Any ideas? Seems to play into Rahms narrative and plays to the anti cop, cop hater crowd.

8/22/2016 03:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Legit shoot. My buddy is a Troope. Uptight agency but common sense policy to defend themselves against a 4000 pound deadly weapon.

8/22/2016 05:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

07:13 Citizen Reader - Your salient observation questioning the more restrictive CPD policy Vs. State Law was also a festering issue with the CPD citizen complaint policy. About 18 years ago, then Supt. Hillard directly ignored the state law which mandates that a citizen complaint be written and notarized before an IAD investigation was launched. This was based on then CPD General Counsel Karen Rowan advising Hillard that CPD was exempt and that the requirement would intimidate the complainant (it does if it's a frivolous complaint). Simply put - CPD brass take the title exempt to include state laws which they do not agree with.
Former legislator turned pretend Sheriff Tom Dart is another clown who routinely flaunts the law. He got a ton of PR when he cavalierly announced that he would not serve eviction orders after the real estate foreclosure crisis in 2008.

Now we State Sen. Kwame Raoul babbling that this law should be repealed along with proposing other anti police legislation and Little Lisa Madigan vouching for his ideas. And of course, Deano will proudly boast that he advised the Senate when they passed the ISR law.
And when daddy Madigan says jump, the mighty Lillipution promptly complies.

Retired .38 spl +P

8/23/2016 03:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Raoul is a race baiting anti cop pos who wants to be another Obama. He is as bad as pyramid scamming Patricia Van pelt who is under investigation by the FBI but still gets away with anything thanks to cullerton and Madigan. She is buddies with anti cop ahole cease fire leaders and slum lord Jason Ervin. Her chief of staff works for the state, her campaign, and get scam community group. Also under investigation by Insoector general who referred it to Lisa who has done nothing. Van pelt us the most anti cop pos in the Illinois senator. Her only focus is on ex offenders and dope heads. She has to be exposed.

8/23/2016 01:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

citizen reader: well I'm sorry to say .38spl+P I'm still confused about law v. police policy. But I think you police need a union that is far stronger than the FOP. By that I mean you need more of a general counsul participation and presense in your representation. I think a union more aggressive in the courts is required in a modern day of a society that runs to court for every other grievence. I have thought for a while that these cases where Ed Burke is settling for millions of dollars are fishy and I do not trust that guy in any manner. He is just one of many politicians who seem to think that releasing body cam footage into the general public is okay. I think it has the potential to taint a potential jury pool be it for criminal charges or civil complaints and it is a viloation of the right to a fair trial, equal protection under the law and a number of other procedural issues. But you have no general counsul that I see anyway that stands up to the city administration and all the other "community" antagonists. If politicians and the ACLU are allowed to weaken the rule of law and the police force, it simply makes life more precarious for law abiding citizens.

8/23/2016 08:46:00 PM  

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