Fuzzy Math Again
- The Chicago Police Department will launch a two-year hiring blitz that will add 970 police officers to confront a 50 percent spike in homicides and improve detectives’ ability to solve crimes, the Chicago Sun-Times has learned.
The hiring surge — the biggest since the mid-1980s — marks a turnaround for Mayor Rahm Emanuel, who has relied on police overtime in a failed attempt to stop the cycle of gang violence on the streets.
Over the next two years, the police department will add 516 patrol officers, 92 field-training officers, 112 sergeants, 50 lieutenants and 200 detectives.
The first-year cost will be $138,000 per officer including salary, benefits and supervision. So the 970 additional officers will carry a price tag of almost $134 million.
Police Supt. Eddie Johnson said he has no idea how Emanuel plans to pay for the extra cops.
As our readers have been pointing out all day:
- 200 detectives will come from the patrolman rank
- 112 sergeants will come from the patrolman and detective ranks
- 92 FTO's will come from the patrolman rank
That's 404 bodies that will need to be replaced, so the 516 seems to be down to 112. And that doesn't even count the retirement numbers - at last report, passing 700, 800 and fast approaching 900 due to the Contract expiration.
But last time we checked, the Academy took 6 months to complete - unless Special Ed gets this going pretty soon, these kids aren't going even be on the street before the killing season is in full swing for 2017.
But last time we checked, the Academy took 6 months to complete - unless Special Ed gets this going pretty soon, these kids aren't going even be on the street before the killing season is in full swing for 2017.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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It doesn't matter anyway .... there is not enough equipment to go around.
Fleet is run into the ground, tazers, radios etc ....
The department has been decimated over the last several years and now this is our operating strength.
They say more police ...that's not gonna happen too many other expenses come along with that.
Over 1000 retiring, they need to hire 1500 just to keep up, 2000 if they want to make a difference.But I don't think they care that much.
From what I can decipher, all these increases are to the budgeted numbers. Meaning, the new hiring will be much more then 500 as they will need to replace those promoted. So all those that retire and are promoted will be replaced and an additional 500 officers will be added. I do agree that the way it was presented was quite confusing. Good luck to anyone close on any lists.
No fuzzy math, just convoluted verbiage. What they really mean is that budgeted positions for those ranks are being increased by that much.
Why does no one understand that they aren't simply hiring that number. They are increasing the authorized strength and will hire as many as needed to accomplish that. That is what they mean. Whether or not it is accomplished is another story.
when are these soon to be hires and promotions going to take place. When are we going to find out our results from the detectives exam.
Only two lame stream tv stations even coupled the word attrition with the hires. The most inaccurate was Ch. 7 - John Garcia bought/drank the koolaid and even used the "current strength" total of 12,500 to make the future ranks appear to swell to 13,000. Pure theater at work.
Adding to the circus were approximately 70 police officers in the audience applauding as Ed the Stripper recited his City Hall approved statement. The officers were desk dollies - no street gear on radios visible.
The height of asininity was former felon AlderCreature Walter Burnett standing behind Ed with his sincere, concerned expression.
Time for Chicago Magazine to again attempt to decipher the fuzzy math as they did with Mc Streetlights comcrap.
Retired .38 spl + P
Obviously this was a PR move and a half hearted attempt to get ahead of the DOJ requirements. Anyone else think this won't satisfy the fed's as far as their opinion as to how many supervisors we need?
There only making up for all the Cops that have Retired Are Retiring and all others who have thrown there Badges in ,and called it quit and a lot more to come , What a Joke , there not going to be hiring 1 extra Cop by the time all this Bullshit is over , PLUS Ass Hole Rahm is only doing this to make himself look Good for the Next Mayor Election , Piss On Him , Like we don't known what this Clown is actually doing , YEAH RIGHT
The arithmetic is complicated, but you is right. The CPD will shrink with those numbers.
I like that Chicago is adding cops, but I wonder - WHERE IS ALL THE MONEY GOING TO COME FROM?
Or, is it like so many other "priority projects"? The money is there, it just wasn't "earmarked" for it originally. If that is the case, where was THAT money going to go?
Or, is sales tax going to go to 15%? Parking going to go to a flat $100 to come and park downtown? NO thanks!
There ARE ways to streamline expenditures (current cash outlay) to pay for additional cops.
One BIG way would be to review ALL CHA money that goes to pay Section 8 rent subsidies.
NO ONE should be living in some $2,800 a month downtown condo with the CHA picking up $2,600 a month of the bill.
ALL those "contracts" and payments should have a LIMIT on them. $2,800 a month is luxury housing - not subsidized housing.
Another BIG way to fund additional cops - BITE THE BULLET -cut back the amount of Aldermen and their related staffs, support facilities, AND separate ward funds to 20. That would be a HUGE way to permanently fund the additional CPD resources, AND not affect ANY quality of services.
(I can just see ALL the patronage people blowing a gasket but come on, you guys are ALL rubberstamp Aldermen who do NOT add to anything.)
You don't need 50, 20 will do and if anything, look how much MORE will be accomplished because you have LESS people to go through to make a decision. Hell, every Roll Call vote will go a lot quicker.
Just some good solutions to those too clueless to know they have a bloated government of non-working, ineffective people.
Salary, benefits, and SUPERVISION...?How did they figure the cost of this Supervision? Outside supervisors?
Anybody notice that this is the number of POs that were *budgeted* for when Rahm stole his 1st election? Seems like he admitted that he screwed up.
I'm in the 900's. I guess I'll get to the airport without a phone call.
Any kid who takes this job now is self destructive and needs their head examined. If I were 23 again, I'd park my ass in my parents basement and look for a different career. Impossible to do this job now. Vote for Hillary the hillbilly and it's really over. Not just law and order but our country. BLM, then quit voting for the real slave owners and oppressors...DEMOCRATS. They want an underclass to get votes. They want you helpless, hopeless, and uneducated.
These numbers will not even put a dent in what is needed. 200 detectives....need to triple that. 112 Sgt's...ya, ok.... we're FUCKED!
You forgot to carry the one.
I was told there would be no math.
More hair gels coming to a shithole near you.... How many coppers are recommending the job to a relative??? I am not doing so... Why, because I had a heart attack last week... Went to the doctor, and the doctor was like... You are in bad shape, next month I get a heart monitor. I am border line diabetic, and border line high blood pressure, I have been on the job since 2009.
The city only had a budget for 15 FTOs in 2016 so the rest of the 26 (13 waived/passed position) will go back to their districts as "acting FTOs" and will fill out an out of grade slip whenever they have a PPO with them until they're called back to be made (which could take up to 6 months). They're doing the same thing to them like they did with the ETs. How the hell are they going to make 92 FTOs if they cant even make 41?? What a joke.
OT -- Fuzzy thinking and false narrative again --
Here, usual tremendous photo spread of BLM ugliness and stupidity in Charlotte, NC. Trucks stopped and looted on Interstate, cargo dragged out and burned, windows smashed all over, passers-by attacked. State of emergency declared, Guard and State Police called out. Black guy even shot black guy in head during riot to make point about "Don't Shoot, Hands Up."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3801367/One-person-died-gunshot-wound-violent-protests-Charlotte-fatal-police-shooting-disabled-black-man-enter-second-night.html
Mass hysteria, violence, insanity -- and they love it.
Uh...what would be more "environmentally friendly" here? Tear gas, pepper spray, flash-bangs -- or just a good spray of water?
The readers have to understand that the budgeted numbers are increasing. If the mayor beefs you the department to 13,500, you will see a noticeable change in the amount of officers on the street. More Detective's, sergeants , lieutenants, and po's.
So to recap, all the po's that we are Losing to retirement and promotion will be replaced with new hires. In addition another 500 or so new hires will be added on top of that.
The key word is BUDGETED
OH -- the fellow who was shot in Charlotte after refusing to drop his gun? (Photo of apparent gun laying on-scene has surfaced)
"Keith Lamont Scott has a criminal record in three states, including Texas, South Carolina and North Carolina.
"Mecklenburg County records matching Keith Lamont Scott's name and birth date show Scott was charged in April 2004 with multiple counts, including felony assault with a deadly weapon.
"Records show that most of the charges were dismissed, and he pleaded guilty to a single charge of misdemeanor assault with a deadly weapon.
"Texas records show that he was convicted of evading arrest with a vehicle in 2005, and several months later of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.
"In 1992 in South Carolina, records show Scott pleaded guilty to contributing to the delinquency of a minor.
"Court records also show a misdemeanor assault conviction in North Carolina from 2004.
"Records from nearby Gaston County show that Scott pleaded guilty to driving while impaired in 2015.
Now the usual phalanx of unknown "activists" and revs and pastors and "spokesmen" crowds in front of the ever-willing cameras.
"A woman who identified herself as an advocate for Scott's family, Annette Albright, said at a news conference that he shouldn't be 're-victimized' because of things he did in the past."
Wait. The offender in these cases was the "victim?"
Past behavior never indicative of a pattern of violence, of course...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3801367/One-person-died-gunshot-wound-violent-protests-Charlotte-fatal-police-shooting-disabled-black-man-enter-second-night.html
Just crazy -- and that's the New Normal.
This shows exactly how stupid Speilman and Main really are. They drink the coolaid every day. They not only fail to realize Lts Sgts and detectives come from the ranks but also neglect to mention how many officers will be retiring. Those 500 officers that will be hired will fill exactly how many retiree spots? Stupid math!
Its Chicago common core math.
The media believes this bullshit and does not realize he is just replacing people leaving there is no increase
Doesn't the DOJ frown on accelerated hiring?
92 FTO's?? FTO's are leaving. Will the City sweaten thr pot? or just cross their fingers?
So the cpd is going to hire about 100 new officers and just promote 400.
Did I get that right? What are expected retirees by end of year, 400?
wow fuzzy math is being nice. This is robbing Peter to pay paul.
I thought he said this was in addition to the vacancies
Has anyone else taken 2 days at academy training for conflict resolution?
What a waste of time. Our department responds to conflicts and we are now being told to step back and
not restore the peace. Great training for young officers to confuse them further.
I retire this year and just sat there watching the smoke and mirrors act. Then in last minutes of class we were
told to stay safe and fetal. ......... of course no cameras in class when this happened.
29 and a day and I get out of this nonsense.
All I see is the city and ASA are setting you up
for fun and games in some court room.
Good luck to you young guys.
No media dare challenge Rahm. They want to keep their doughnut privileges at City Hall.
If 970 are to be hired, and close to 900+ are going to retire, The MONEY is already in the budget due to the zero sum gain. Why would they need to find a way to pay for the replacement officers? OH Wait, This is Democrat controlled Chicago... Sorry for asking...
Another publicity stunt by Swan Lake who knows it's full of bullshit. Can't wait to see what fairy dust he announces to pay for it.
--No Cop Here
I spoke with a guy I worked with many years ago last night. . He is retiring in January and told me that 1,100 people are retiring along with him in January. He went on to tell me that his partner is retiring in April. He said there are 1,000 people retiring with him in April. 500 new hires will do absolutely nothing with the upcoming retirements.
Any media outlet that continues to push the "nearly 1,000 new hires" narrative after realizing it is bullshit demonstrates how corrupt the media actually is.
Maybe Eddie has a 'little help' for the State test? That will get them out a little sooner!
I think Channel 7 or maybe Fox 32 News had a screen shot showing :
12,500 current strength
+ 900 to get hired
____________________
13,500
WTF?LOL!!
Smoke and mirrors by Emanuel and the gullible taxpayers buy into it because the media, who knows better, tells them to believe it. And they do!
Does this superintendent have any idea about anything?
Why are they paying a 1k+ per camera. Thise things are like $300.00 each. That is like $300.00 extra for the company and $600 for the politicians involved ha.
Who is actually considering taking this job anymore? Do they not have any other career options?
A true dumbass wrote that. I hope it was a civilian typist III.
Rahm and Eddie are able to get away with this smoke blowing up the ass because the public and the media dont understand CPD rank structure.
And the media is too lazy to learn.
......telling the people what they want to hear again... They need to go back to having five areas so that Detectives can focus on smaller areas. This will give them a better chance at becoming more familiar with the smaller area. Each area should have no more than 3 districts. In addition, they need at least 300 new Detectives over the next two years to make up for the ones who will retire and be promoted to sergeant. News flash Rahm and EJ we may lose over 100 detectives within the next two years. (Back down to nothing)
We need a real man a real mayor like this:
http://m.eastbayexpress.com/SevenDays/archives/2016/09/21/sacramento-mayor-kevin-johnson-hit-in-face-with-cake-at-event-assaults-protester-in-bloody-scene
We have a ballerina in a tutu with absolutely zero balls we have a pandering scared weak mayor simple as that!
pretty sure they hired 2,800 in the 91-94 hiring
There is no valid reason to have recruits stay in the academy for 31 weeks. Sure we have alot to teach them but they should take a better look at how the Cook County Sheriff's train thier guys in just 12 weeks, it is a no nonsense school. Either you make it or you don't period. There is no coddling, wimpering or do you know who my father is crap. My Son went there because the suburb he was hired by couldn't get him into CPD academy due to no room. I'm glad he couldn't and I will put him up to any CPD recruit. Our recruits are just plain bored after spending all that time inside, get them out on the streets with an FTO.
Don't they do this is once or twice a year, more officers on street, re-assignments, it's like saying we bought 2 new cars when we have 6 in the shop and are about to be retired. Why does the media eat up lies?
Now they're kicking the figure of 13,000 officers around, and that number is sheer fantasy! Remember, yes there was a time when we had on paper more than 13,000 officers; but we also had almost one million more residents paying taxes. The "Flight" from Chicago in the last two decades has made this very much a City of Haves moving in briefly and leaving when their kids need to go to school, and Have Nots, who ain't going anywhere else. Yes, retirees are moving into the condos in the South Loop, but days of real "neighborhoods" supported by strong ethnic and generational ties are gone forever. Add the hateful racial climate, and this is not such a great place to live, unless you have big bucks. The people living in 016, 017 and 019 have already realized that they have been sold out. The other night CBS Channel 2, no friend of the police, showed a deployment of 5 cars to 016, while 011 and 015 had 30 cars plus Special Units assisting.019 with an out of control robbery a burglary rate, is primarily concerned with making sure Rahm's house is covered! How long are Tax Paying Chicago Residents going to put up with this? The FOP or someone in the City Council needs to begin a means of an Impeachment Process for incompetent elected officials, such as Rahm. It's too late to launch Rahm, but I am sure others like him are waiting in the wings when he loses or chooses not to run for a third term. Stay Fetal, Baby"G"
That's Rahmenomics for you..... chicanery, smoke and mirrors.
Why doesn't our lapdog media call Rahm and Eddie out on this?
The numbers, adding 1000 new police officers is pure bullshit, period end of story. Anyone with a legitimate grammar school education knows the numbers do not add up. 1000 is the spin offered to convince the reporters and those not capable of simple math that he genuinely cares about the crime problem.
Lets look at what Rahmmy has done here. He has said that the CPD has to more with less when he started experimenting with the public safety of the City of Chicago. His experiment has cost thousands of Chicagoans their lives, their physical and mental health as well as their possessions, not to mention those visiting our city. He has fundamentally removed the authority and power that was once entrusted to our police force and expected a good result. Now comes word that he is increasing the police force by 1000 officers (bullshit) because he cares so much about public safety. He alone created this crisis of lawlessness and violence but now he wants to look like the savior of the city. If you can't see this picture clearly then you sir or maam have been indoctrinated by the false narrative he and the progressive left have been feeding you. This guy would have been run out on a rail in any other city other than a sanctuary, leftist,democratic, false narrative spewing and law breaking embracing city like Chicago. Why is it that the lowest crime rates are in areas where white people live? Simple, they respect the authority of the police and obey the law of the land. The tribal warfare of the jungle is alive and well. Some people just refuse to assimilate into a lawful society after 150 years of opportunity.
Eddie Johnson sent an department email to all sworn members that he is going to hire officers to fill all retirements the next two years and hire an additional 500 officers on top of that. The media is confused with the promotions and throwing out all kinds of numbers. I don't like Rahm but the media is the one, in this case, that can't read and have no clue what they are reporting on.
I don't know how many new coppers we will get when all is said and done, but what I do know is that some of the aldercreatures that actually matter, such as Burke and others and many business people are telling Rahm quietly and behind the scenes that he has to step up hiring, even if all he does is make up for attrition. That and the DOJ is the reason for new hiring. Where the money comes from, who knows.
Currently 12,500??? Who are they kidding? Haven't seen 12,500 since early 2000's. These hires will not even get us over 12,000. This is another Rahm stunt to sell himself, cover for his lack of ability and to hide this complete disaster that he has created. This is another push to try to repair his image in order to get out of here if Hillary wins. This stroke has snuck in and completed the destruction of this Police Department and the entire city, all while lining the pockets of his friends, family, and himself. Chicago if you don't start asking questions and calling Rahm on his bullshit, your not going to have anything left. Media do your job and ask the tough questions.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'm in the 900's. I guess I'll get to the airport without a phone call.
9/22/2016 03:13:00 AM
I think you'll need to be lower than the 900's for that Junior.
I feel safer already. I slept with my doors unlocked and windows open. Now pull my finger...
2 + 2 is 4
4 + 4 is more
Cooter
Can someone confirm report that local priest arrested for child porn had the email address of another south side "man of the people" white priest?
It's not cancelling anything out. They are expanding the budgeted strength. If our budgeted strength is 12,500 right now after this move our budget will the 13,000. Right now we have 12,100 total sworn(including supervisors, det, etc). So if they make all these moves they still are going to hire the 500 but have to fill all the vacancies that come with it. So they can't hire 900 "new officers". Yes they will hire 900 but 400 of them will just be replacing bodies that we use to have anyways but retired. So at most we will have 500 new people and another 400 on top of that to replace retirements... But who is to say that those people will even be replaced? I see smoke and mirrors. We will get people hired but still won't hit our full strength amount
I reckon the mayor just had to say something. He's not stupid, he knows this won't make any difference, but he's hoping everyone that hears it, is stupid. Got to do something to stop the flow of taxpayers leaving the city.
After all, he needs to take care of his voters that are the beneficiaries of the taxpayers.
If the city wasn't so screwed with diversity, CPD would only need to be about 1/3 it's current size, if that much.
But it's not so stay safe, stay fetal or we'll see you demonized on the news.
J.J.
They need to hire so I can sell my house and get out of this hell hole.
Just a note, when they talk about retirees next year they are counting the ones who are taking the 55 and out. What about those of us who will be between 50 and 54 and are leaving? I will be 50 next year with 28 and a day. They can keep their 2.5% and I'll find my own medical (FOP?). The BS is not worth it anymore. And I know I am not the only one under 55. I know a guy that is 52 talking about leaving. So they haven't added in those potential numbers. All I can say is that this city is screwed!
Does anyone really believe there are 12,500 coppers now?
if 800 retire and therefore shift to the pension fund. Shouldn't the money already be budgeted for the new PPo who are hired . More City of Chicago, Crook Co, Terminally ILL inois math. That the idiot media just accepts and citizens don't understand.
Everyone in the building was ordered to be in uniform and was ordered to be downstairs at 1400hrs to be addressed by the Sup. Each unit had to send one car. And all we got was this nonsense. Big waste of time.
Where's the money coming from for new Officers,1000 Retire at top pay scale,1000 hired at starting pay...The City is saving money.
Nothin up my sleeve, Presto!
The forced mitigation class is all about what is going to save the City money,If he has a gun don't give chase take your time going to jobs.
The false narrative continues rolling. The hate explodes again --
War zone in Charlotte: White man begs for mercy as he is beaten while an unconscious reporter is nearly dragged into a fire by rioters as people are told to stay home from work after police shooting of [apparently armed] black man [by a black officer]
* Homeless man brutally beaten
* Disturbing videos have emerged of protesters brutally attacking bystanders in North Carolina city
* It was the second night of unrest following the deadly shooting of Keith Lamont Scott by a cop
* Governor Pat McCrory has declared a state of emergency and has called in the National Guard
* Major companies with offices in the downtown area told employees not to come into work on Thursday
* Mayor Jennifer Roberts is also considering putting a curfew in place in a bid to control the disorder
* One of the [black] demonstrators was shot in the head outside the Omni Hotel [by an unknown black assailant] and is fighting for his life
* At least three other protesters and four police officers were also taken to hospital
* A man, believed to be Scott's brother, was captured on video saying all white people are 'f***ing devils'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3802230/War-zone-Charlotte-White-man-begs-mercy-beaten-reporter-nearly-dragged-fire-rioters-people-told-stay-home-work-police-shooting-black-father.html
Off subject, but why does the city keep giving free service to the thousands of false burglar alarms we respond to every day. The alarm companies should have to register with the city and we should be ticketing the alarm companies every time they call in a false alarm. Seems like it is an easy way for the city to make money and would force the alarm companies to stop calling in the millions of false alarms we respond to every year.
OT --
Glimpses of Charlotte --
* Masked rioter holding up sign reading "WE ARE NOT ANIMALS" as the fires burn and the glass flies
* Another with a T-shirt reading "I WANT WHAT'S MINE."
* Another popular new shirt is "OFFICER DOWN."
OT: A big thank you to 020 third watch last night for finding my Dad who was confused and lost last night. I dont know who all responded to the call yet but I owe all of you a debt of gratitude.
Sgt. Ray Young at callback.
I know this idea is against all the democratic party believes in, but if there were more criminals in jail there would be less of a need for more police. More fetal police will not solve any problem.
Just a ?.....not for publication on the blog.
Don't you guys have enough of an insider track to find out CPD's true strength? I mean, the real numbers? How many patrol....how many Sgt, Lt, Capt, etc? Each and every paycheck-getting CPD member is on an A&A some where......each and every day....and I don't care in what capacity they serve.....is there - anywhere - a real total head count?
I am so tired of hearing there are 12,000 members.....I thought 9 1/2 cut some 2000 positions over the last 3 budgets.....but the "news media" just keeps spouting his bullshit about our strength and our cost....they couldn't even do the math yesterday to know that there would only be 516 newbies....all the rest were already on the job...and not one word about the HUGE retirements expected in 2017.....
What worries me is the hide-and-seek attitude of 9 1/2...... And God forbid we ever have a terror attack here, how do we survive it? I watched the NYPD response of all those coppers at a minutes notice.....I honestly don't think we could pull that off.....
I am all for increasing the amount of people on the police force but some times I wonder if even that will do any good. When you have a political and legal environment where a cop's only logical choice is to stay fetal, you could double the amount of coppers and if none of them wanted to do anything, what good will it do?
Thanks Obummer, Clinton, Rahm, ACLU, DOJ for destroying our world. All shills for George Soros and the New World Order.
Vote for Trump.
Call the next case. Not a cop.
That's what you get when you elect a mayor who can't count to 10 with his fingers.
The atypical Democrat Rahm spin (that will prob be part of his big public address today):
– Yeah, but we're hiring 970 police officers and that's almost a thousand more on the streets. And that's what's important here. It's about the kids and families of the community, to put them first by providing a thousand new officers to keep them safe.
Then there's this:
"improve detectives’ ability to solve crimes"
– I believe the D will finally be getting all those fantastic overstocked computers from CPS, with Microsoft Millenium Edition (preinstalled too!) as promised 15 years ago.
At any rate, there will still be the unsatisfactory and low performing Leap Froggy Merit Picks contributing to 15, 20 and 30% to the promoted totals. Please add that to the fuzzy math and pretend there's nothing hinky about leveling a playing field.
That's where the problems start.
Wgn news at Noon. Mayor Emmanuel to release his plan to fight crime in Chicago. Are you kidding? Who writes this bs. Headlines should read Mayor Emmanuel plans to release a plan to fix his failed policies regarding policing and public safety that have cost thousands their lives, permanent physical and psychological injuries and have emboldened and abetted the criminal element in their quest to become more powerful than law enforcement itself.
Only in Chicago does "increase" actually and truthfully mean decrease. The political corruption is second to none in Chicago. And the pathetic liberal biased lying media eats it up and spits it back out to the citizens.
All this story highlights is that there'll actually be less police on the street in the coming years. Citizens who read this blog, please be aware this is all just a play on words and that there will be less police, more crime and more political bullshit.
Are they going to hire SGT. and LT's from outside to make up those numbers?
Into-my-pocket math again --
News radio reporting that Gary, Indiana is about to "transfer" something like 3,200 parcels of property to a developer tied to Richard M. Daley. I wonder if it's one of those "$1.00 each" deals.
This should be something...
This is what happens when you let common core math into the workplace.
OT --
"Daley has sold a rotten product to the Gary Redevelopment Commission. Peter Ellis is not the architect savior that he professes to be. Ellis has failed on his "greenfield cities" in India.
"Daley and MAIA CO are simply selling the same concept of shifting populations as he did with Cabrini Green. And what did [Chicago] get out of the mass tear downs? A higher amount of subsidized renters moving into the city's rental housing...and dangerously extending scant existing social aid programs.
"So now Daley wants the same to happen city wide in Gary. The rest of Northern Indiana better be ready. Daley will push people out and send the flow of remaining people outward to again seek subsidized housing, social aid, and various programming outside of Cal township. Better be ready Ross and Hobart townships.
"Isn't it strange that the City accepted such a proposal with receiving only 20% gross revenue no matter the costs to the Gary Redevelopment Commission to acquire properties, clean title, remediate environmental conditions, etc.
"How can the Gary Redevelopment Commission award a contract without any real numbers or costs? Something is greatly wrong with the way the city does business. This business model is not one that benefits any black people, local businesses, or the city. Rather this model benefits Karen Freeman Wilson's political contributors (such as Daley), those from whom she wants to buy power (such as Daley), and those who only see Gary as a current meal ticket with no connection or proven local track record (such as Daley).
"First we were forced to "lease" the airport to Higgenbottom, then we had an inside prison deal with GEO, and now we have a mass demolition program to "reformat" the city.
"Seems that Karen Freeman Wilson truly only cares about her own gloried, corrupt Harvard rump as she jets to Washington and plays make-believe Mayor!"
https://www.facebook.com/CoreyMcPherrinFox32Chicago/posts/294647217550907?_fb_noscript=1
Why, because I had a heart attack last week... Went to the doctor, and the doctor was like... You are in bad shape, next month I get a heart monitor. I am border line diabetic, and border line high blood pressure, I have been on the job since 2009.
9/22/2016 04:39:00 AM
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Are you really going to blame this job for that? You are responsible for taking care of yourself. If you have shit health at maybe 32 years old, it's genetics or carelessness. I know, overtime and court, blah, blah, blah. Working midnights! Bid to a different district. We get generous vacation, PDays, BFD and all the comp you earn for holidays and court. Of course, you take cash for court and holidays. I've never had a job that allows so much time off and if you use it, you're off regularly. We don't rotate, we don't do the old 6-2, we have the 4-2 schedule. If you really let this job fuck you up that much, you need to seek other employment. Haven't you been listening? Take care of yourself.
There have been 85 Sergeants that have retired so far this year. I think their count is a little off.
I suspect when all is said and done there will be fewer patrol officers than when the so called hiring surge started.
It might be interesting to see what the cost benefit analysis is of the department paying older employees to retire early. that is often surprisingly cost effective and usually popular with the early retirees.
NAC
Anonymous said...
From what I can decipher, all these increases are to the budgeted numbers. Meaning, the new hiring will be much more then 500 as they will need to replace those promoted. So all those that retire and are promoted will be replaced and an additional 500 officers will be added. I do agree that the way it was presented was quite confusing. Good luck to anyone close on any lists.
9/22/2016 12:18:00 AM
Way back when Emanuel was running for mayor and he announced he would 'put 500more cops on the street', I posted here pretty frequently to pay attention to the specific words and don't read into what he's saying. I said then that he wasn't going to hire 500 fresh bodies, but people wanted to hear what they wanted to hear.
People want to interpret and infer. Stop doing that. Rahm Emanuel is one shrewd fella and he has made a career of managing the media. He told Eddie EXACTLY what he wanted said and Eddie said it. Don't let wishful thinking cloud your judgement. Don't surmise or infer or put your own spin on it.
The specific words are "create new positions". They are not "hire". He was very, very clear the hiring was 500 or so NEW officers. The rest is just promotions from within.
Anonymous said...
So the cpd is going to hire about 100 new officers and just promote 400.
Did I get that right? What are expected retirees by end of year, 400?
wow fuzzy math is being nice. This is robbing Peter to pay paul.
9/22/2016 06:44:00 AM
Expected retirees by 15 May will be around one thousand. Due to contract expiration and medical coverage issues, this will probably be the biggest mass exodus in a generation.
The readers have to understand that the budgeted numbers are increasing. If the mayor beefs you the department to 13,500, you will see a noticeable change in the amount of officers on the street. More Detective's, sergeants , lieutenants, and po's.
So to recap, all the po's that we are Losing to retirement and promotion will be replaced with new hires. In addition another 500 or so new hires will be added on top of that.
The key word is BUDGETED
9/22/2016 05:58:00 AM
Bullfeathers.
Alderman Waguespack (sp?) has requested the actual strength numbers of all ranks from the CPD for several months now and has received no response, despite repeated requests. From his own mouth, ON VIDEO, on the news.
So you really think you'll see accurate numbers when this is all over? I have a bridge to sell you. No, TWO bridges. And they're both invisible.
Anonymous said...
Why does no one understand that they aren't simply hiring that number. They are increasing the authorized strength and will hire as many as needed to accomplish that. That is what they mean. Whether or not it is accomplished is another story.
9/22/2016 12:42:00 AM
No, it ISN'T what they 'mean'. Don't read into it. don't wish. Don't interpret.
It isn't what you WANT it to be.
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Maybe, if the Rahm wasn't dumping money into Steinmetz High School's swimming pool, they city would have more money for POs on the street.
It seems CPS dumped $1M into renovating Steinmetz' pool in 2015 and the pool is only being used for the swim and water polo teams before and after school, not for teaching swimming in PE. Overall, CPS dumped $10M into the whole building using Tyler Lane Construction, a politically connected company.
http://tylerlaneinc.com/project-profile/interior-renovations/ir-charles-r-steinmetz-high-school/
This $10M+ worth of work was done a handful of years after CPS spent over $30K just to get the Steinmetz pool in compliance in 2011.
http://www.csc.cps.k12.il.us/purchasing/bid_history/15086.xml
No PE classes are being taught swimming or life-saving techniques in the pool.
The students are meeting their swimming requirements by writing a paper on a health topic or swimming.
The reasons Steinmetz administrators and PE teachers are giving for no swimming during PE classes are:
- PE teachers without their proper WSIs (Water Safer Instructor certificates)
- a huge failure rate in PE due to not passing swimming
- illness
- girls on their periods
- students can't afford bathing suits and caps
- lazy PE teachers.
If you go to pg. 10 of this link, you'll find swimming isn't included in any course offerings for PE
http://www.steinmetzcp.org/pdf/Programming%20Booklet.pdf
How can the public expect effective policing from our department when we don't even understand what budgeted strength means. Come on people, help is on the
way.
You know what? In my two and a half decades of police work, I have been through sensitivity training, cultural awareness, caps, legitimacy one and two, and made to sit through hundreds of diversity and "be nice" streaming roll call presentations (I especially liked the one with Terri hilliards wife). All of this has zero impact on whether someone I am approaching chooses to comply. And if you call for full investigations and are granted them by the pandering politicians, maybe you should actually believe their results?
He's got to say what he intends and what needs to be done,but he will slickly avoid really doing it,he is a cunning manipulator of the truth and what he says and what he intends are totally separate,he will say things that pacify the media and public,but realize since day one he hasn't kept one promise and has tried to renege on most things he has promised,that's the Rahm way and if he can, he will have a judge in his pocket, so he can win even though most judges would side with any contractual obligations the city agreed on in the past,so city workers must go to higher appellate court to get a decision from another judge!
Smoke and mirrors as usual. I m embarrassed to even work for this Dept after seeing his press conference. Do you know how to add fool??
Time to update the "hairgels" label. Hairgels are all veterans now...that was the 1990's. Most hairgels don't have much hair left from all the bs the dept did to them. Today is the arm sleeve tattoos, skin tight police shirts that are 6 sizes too small, and duck dynasty beards. Most look like action figures from GI Joe.
Has anybody in this discussion about hiring more cops to combat the ongoing crime wave that is happening today ever considered the truth in the matter. It does not matter if this administration hires 20,000 more cops, as long as the restraints are on the cops themselves nothing is going to change. Pooky is well aware of those restraints on the cops and are taking full advantage of that. How many times do squad cars pass by pooky and the gang anywhere in the city just loitering 24-7 on city blocks and keep driving with blinders on (SMART) or how many times, when you try to stop a vehicle with young pooky and friends they just take off. Today if you're a smart cop you will remain fetal and just answer your jobs and drop paper when necessary, anymore proactive work will result in something negative. Those days of being proactive are gone ladies and gentleman in blue, if you want to make it to retirement best stay comatose not fetal, at least till the powers to be release the leash on our collars and then only then this city will be cleansed of pooky and his friends. But that will never happen, to many liberals running the show. Rome is unfortunately burning, this is going on nationwide people. I would go on but stay safe brothers and sisters in blue, always be safe and yes we are the last line of defense between these cockroaches and the civilized world. God Bless....
Just like 400 new squad cars each year put into the contract, that promise was kept right?
This is just another example of Rahm not letting a crisis go to waste. With more people retiring, our numbers are just way down. So look at your number 112 which is the actual number of people being added. ...... How many have retired in the past year??? Then compare that number to the 112, and we are still way down from where we should be......
Just a way to pull the wool over the eyes of the public....
Like Rahm having a press conference to "hire more people to combat crime" when in reality he is hiring more people to replace all those who have retired.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'm in the 900's. I guess I'll get to the airport without a phone call.
9/22/2016 03:13:00 AM
And you will deal with a union rep that gets cr numbers on other coppers be careful! Takes ethics test but what about all the front row sports tickets taken? Can you feel the karma?
North Carolina Riots Are "Saul Alinsky 101"
Sept. 22, 2016 -- By Todd Starnes
"Charlotte, North Carolina is under a state of emergency after another night of violence.
"An angry mob prowled the streets like animals hunting their prey - brutally attacking police, civilians and news reporters.
"They literally tried to stuff an unconscious photographer into a burning trash can, according to eyewitness accounts.
"One civilian was gunned down in the melee.
"The mob even stormed a Buffalo Wild Wings and terrorized patrons, according to the Charlotte Observer.
"The NASCAR Hall of Fame [and the United Way charity headquarters] and countless other shops and businesses were damaged. Several hotel workers were beaten after thugs smashed windows and laid siege to the lobby.
"North Carolina Governor Pat McCrory called in state troopers and the National Guard - but it's unclear if even that will quell the mob's bloodlust.
"President Obama, meanwhile, has been unusually quiet.
To be clear - these are not protesters - these are anarchists - governed by Rules for Radicals.
"We've seen this type of unrest in cities across the nation -- advancing a false narrative that police are targeting African-Americans.
"The Charlotte unrest is a result of the shooting death of Keith Lamont Scott. Police say Scott had a gun. His family says he had a book. The investigation continues.
"The protesters said they want justice.
"Well, if justice means looting Walmart and storming restaurants and beating up hotel clerks – the anarchists got their justice in North Carolina.
"The citizens of Charlotte should take immediate precautions to protect themselves, their families and their property.
"The streets are no longer safe for law-abiding Americans.
"God speed, Queen City."
http://www.toddstarnes.com/column/north-carolina-riots-are-saul-alinsky-101
Lucky bastard: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5i8SGDkq8deVmlaVmxtUTBkaWM/view
BIG Spender said...
"NO ONE should be living in some $2,800 a month downtown condo with the CHA picking up $2,600 a month of the bill."
9/22/2016 01:40:00 AM
...and they shoot someone right there in the fully-equipped workout gym. What building was that, again?
As a broke 21 year old kid who is pretty close to an academy date would I still be unwise to take the job ??
Rahm's whole political career has been built on fuzzy math and fuzzy other things.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Salary, benefits, and SUPERVISION...?How did they figure the cost of this Supervision? Outside supervisors?
9/22/2016 01:50:00 AM
I was wondering the exact same thing. It's quite odd to bring up , and factor in costs for, supervision.
Something's not quite right about that.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'm in the 900's. I guess I'll get to the airport without a phone call.
9/22/2016 03:13:00 AM
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Maybe Meigs...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
More hair gels coming to a shithole near you.... How many coppers are recommending the job to a relative??? I am not doing so... Why, because I had a heart attack last week... Went to the doctor, and the doctor was like... You are in bad shape, next month I get a heart monitor. I am border line diabetic, and border line high blood pressure, I have been on the job since 2009.
9/22/2016 04:39:00 AM
I came on 23 years before you, and I'm doing quite well.
Don't let this circle-jerk get to you!!
Keep in touch with your friends, co-workers etc.
Every now & then, get out, have a few beers with the guys and LAUGH!
If you can't laugh about this job, you're just not trying!
...fuzzy math? Police hires. Police promotions. Police retiring.
Only an idiot would buy Rahms nonsense.
Let's not forget to add to this mix the gangster culture multiplying like rats, recruiting and now graduating more of their own "yutes" to increased street violence and mayhem!
Retired, 30+
They won't be able to get 500 to take the job over the course of a year unless they drop the piss test, polygraph, and criminal background check.
Add 1000 retirements early next year before the free healthcare is fazed out and you'll be down another 500 from where we are today.
To the poster not recommending this job due to his health. Heart condition, diabetic, high blood pressure! Being on the job since 2009 did not do that to you Sally! Try working out a bit and eating a little better!
It is 4:30 PM and news waiting for mayors speech at Malcolm X college at 6 PM.
It sounds like mayor walks on water and has all answers. But alderman are saying why did it take
so long to add police hiring.
Sad but true we are screwed by the mayor and media.
Of topic: Anybody who works any of these athletic events off duty, the NBA, WNBA, and NFL in particular is making a huge mistake. Fuck these self entitled pieces of sh@t!
This is the latest lie foisted on the citizens of Chicago.......Those of you who do not use common core math should be able to explain it.
The actual total of NEW officers will be approx 112....seems they added an extra zero someplace. Happens all the time when you use your 1/2 finger for decimals.
Has anyone else taken 2 days at academy training for conflict resolution?
What a waste of time. Our department responds to conflicts and we are now being told to step back and
not restore the peace. Great training for young officers to confuse them further.
I retire this year and just sat there watching the smoke and mirrors act. Then in last minutes of class we were
told to stay safe and fetal. ......... of course no cameras in class when this happened.
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you see here is the problem with our department. Guys refuse to change. The problem with CPD has always been one thing... EGO. You wonder why suburban departments hate us? Every Chicago copper thinks they are "the real deal" when it comes to being the police. We think we are better than anyone else and are the toughest kids on the block because we work in chicago. This morons post proves that you cant tell a chicago copper anything. How dare they tell me that I cant just talk unprofessionally and just beat somebodys ass. Guess what, the chicago police is now the suburban police so get used to it. You better get real professional real quick because odds are that in the next 6-12 months you will be wearing a body camera in everything you do. Trust me, "staying fetal" wont help you out either because when you show up on that call you get that camera is on. When that camera is on you cant just "stay fetal" and say call the police when he comes back or give some other excuse for coding your job. You cant "talk tough" to somebody on that domestic or disturbance call anymore. If they wannna call you every name in the book and scream at you guess what??? You have to be professional and have to think how to actually provide a service and diffuse the situation because every single thing you say and do will be on that body camera. Every traffic accident, domestic, noise disturbance or cat stuck in a tree means you will be on camera. If you blow it off dont think a sgt will help you because the sgt will also be wearing a body camera and he can no longer just talk them out of it and hope they dont call ipra. If that person says on camera that they want a complaint made on the spot then it happens because if the sgt doesnt do it and its caught on camera then the sgt and you get jammed up. Staying fetal wont help you anymore when these cameras are put on you anymore. Alot of people on days in 009 who have been fetal for their entire career or for the past few months are finding out the hard way. They are showing up to jobs with these cameras on and have no clue what to do. Its the funniest and saddest thing every. they have no clue how to actually do the duties of a police officer. They studder, ramble, make no sense and have no clue what to do on camera. So for the stay fetal people, hate to tell you but youre in for a rude awakening. Its not even as easy anymore as just saying ok heres your report. You better actually resolve the situation professionally on camera or you will be putting yourself out there. smile folks, the badasses on cpd are about to get a huge reality check.
Exactly, who dare you question Dictator Rahm. His presser is an invite only with no questions. Seriously? Cuba has a more open transparent government.
CPS math skills or not, it's irrelevant.
This is just another political gimmick from a mayor that cannot govern his own city.
I posed the exact same question to ST reporter Fran Spielman; her response was the Mayor promised the 970 over and above retirements and promotions. I warned, that seeing is believing. This will look like the moves on a chess board.
Listening to 9.5 give his speech. What a crock of shit. This pussy sounds like he's ready to cry. UGH! We're doomed.
Is Rahmmie the Ballerina Dancer backing Chris Phanucke . He is blaming many murders on wearily release programs . He wants tough sentencing laws . Prewinkie , Sly Foxxx think to many people of color in jail and want them released .
Wait , he's just telling the dummies what they want to hear .
Who sat on that video tape to get elected ?
Why doesn't Rhamboh call out the CCSAO for not charging according to ILCS and the judges for lax sentencing? Time to put pressure on the county! Now he is talking about lessening penalties on drugs. Doesn't this douche know that this killing and violent crime revolves around drugs? He only needs to talk to his own kid to know that.
Sorry but with only 14 years,
I would rather listen or follow an officer with 29 years over the opinions of
an elected mayor or appointed superintendent.
It is not about change. Police officers understand change but the mayor crying about safe streets
is not worried about change just votes.
The working officer with years of experience is disregarded in this Department.
They are forced off the job only to have untrained younger officers become the pawns
of the media and thugs looking for quick payouts
as for the comments refuse to change must be coming form house mouse in academy.
not from working stiff pushing beat car in 7 or 11 on 1st watch.
sacrifice is the first thing you learn after you become an officer.
CYOA is the second. You did not come onto the job to go to jail.......
sorry but internal conflict proves the Department is in trouble.
9/22/2016 02:58:00 PM
Take the job kid. "keep your nose clean", let the city pay for your full(BA,BS), or advanced degree(MBA,MS,MA,JD), and get the fuck out.don't let the star, gun, or adrenaline rushes keep you on past that. don't make the same mistake i did.
Good Luck.
Anonymous said...
Exactly, who dare you question Dictator Rahm. His presser is an invite only with no questions. Seriously? Cuba has a more open transparent government.
9/22/2016 05:03:00 PM
He'll be the ambassador to Cuba soon, so it's sort of appropriate.
Anonymous said...
As a broke 21 year old kid who is pretty close to an academy date would I still be unwise to take the job ??
9/22/2016 02:58:00 PM
You'll be broker when you catch a Federal lawsuit, so yes. It would be unwise.
Mayor short shanks was a better mayor , this guy is a joke.
He hasn't not addressed single parent , 75% born out of wed lock .
He is a damn good politician , fooled them , beat Jesus Garcia .
Who said every dead vote doesn't count ?
Dear Rahm,
You stated that the Criminal Justice was broken. You sir had a hand in breaking the justice system along with Toni Prickwinkle and Lil Tommy Dart who refused to hold violent criminals wanted by ICE after their cases were resolved in cook county, turning countless violent illegal aliens back to the streets of chicago to claim their next victim. Toni's mantra of their are too many people of color in the crook county jail was bought hook, line and sinker by the majority of judges in crook county, who , if not for political patronage, would be pushing a broom somewhere if you could get them up off their ass to work. You sir, along with your liberal leftist have the blood of all victims on your hands because of your Alinsky, Markist and socialist agenda, as well of your love and support for your brothers and sisters at the Peoples Law Office and the ACLU whose policies you have embraced and have created the most violent city in the world. You and your kind are snake oil salesmen and after drinking the oil everyone knows that it does not work. You can not look back on your accomplishments because when they start calling what you have done to the city of Chicago an accomplishment we all will be worshiping the devil instead of GOD.
Let me repeat my post about this new math:
so heres my take on the hiring announcement:
So this is an excerpt from the Supt "I drank the Kool Aid":
Over the next two years we will be hiring over 500 new police officers to help boost police presence where it is needed most. Every community deserves appropriate staffing levels, which in turn allows more officers to take time off to spend with their family.
We will also be hiring 92 field training officers. Field training officers are an integral part of CPD, in that they train and mold eager recruits into productive police officers for decades to come.
We will also promote 200 detectives to help raise our clearance rates for murders, shootings and to address violent crime head on.
Another need of manpower is supervisory personnel, so we will be promoting sergeants, who provide vital street level supervision. Our goal is to hire at least 112 new sergeants. With that in mind, we will also promote 50 new lieutenants who will provide critical supervision and tactical insight at the district level.
That means over the next two years, we will add over 950 sworn members to the Department.
Now lets do the math:
500 New Hires
92 FTOs
200 Detectives
112 Sgt
50 Lt
+500 is a Positive
=92 FTO is a wash they aren't leaving the patrol division and they aren't an added manpower they are already there. (shades of Emperor Rham and his "I'll put 1,000 more police on the street", NOT HIRE, but take desk people who don't want to be on the street and throw them to the wolves)
-200 Detecives is a negative being drawn out of Patrolmen
500-200=300
300 new Patrolmen
112 Sgt but 50 Lts will be pulled from Sgt pool
so now its actually
62 New Sgts
Now subtract that 62 from the 300 New Patrolmen
300-62=138
138 New Patrolmen
We are averaging 150 retirees a year for the 55 Free health care option
so over 2 years 300 retirees
138 new patrolmen subtract 300 retirees
138-300= -162
so in REALITY we are still 162 patrolmen short over that 2 year span and that's a guesstimate.
What public school did he go to that gives him a +950?
and the city in it's infinite wisdom of cooking the books:
Reality check
Detectives Title is (Patrolmen WORKING as a Detective)
so the 836 Detectives they also count as PATROLMEN in their count of sworn police working and as Detectives. The city is double dipping in the census.
Where did they get the number of 12,000 Patrolmen?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'm in the 900's. I guess I'll get to the airport without a phone call.
9/22/2016 03:13:00 AM
And you will deal with a union rep that gets cr numbers on other coppers be careful! Takes ethics test but what about all the front row sports tickets taken? Can you feel the karma?
9/22/2016 02:20:00 PM
I agree with 9/22 @ 2:20PM
The SEIU Rep for the Avation PD is a bottom feeder.
@ 9/22/2016
04:58:00 PM...
All that crap you threw against the wall
and you missed the point entirely.
You overreach by far with your inference.
The O/P was making a point about all the useless
BS being overwritten on The Police Hard-Drive to
solve a problem being driven by a narrative.
>Pffft!<
An entire straw man "tuff-guy" rant about the body camera?
Do you rehearse your scary faces in the mirror
before you head to roll-call?
Nice diversionary tactic in your enlightening everyone
as to why "suburban departments hate us..."
The ego you allege, has been T-boned by your hubris.
There were no survivors...
Do everyone a favor and take your act to a
"suburban department" where they'll SURELY
benefit from your insight and expertise.
...It is only so in your sad, sore and sorry little world.
Are you even a Policeman?
Let alone one from Chicago?
DAMN! Get the Kleenex. Rahm did his speech at Malcolm X, choking and sobbing all over.
"People have to change their route and hurry past all the drug dealers on the corner..."
That's because the police can't clear a corner anymore.
Dumbs__t.
BREAKING NEWS: White female cop who shot dead unarmed black man with his hands up is CHARGED with first degree manslaughter
* Betty Shelby shot and killed Terence Crutcher, 40, on September 16
* Footage of the shooting showed Crutcher with his arms in the air [and all over the place]
* If she is convicted of the felony, she faces life in prison
* Shelby's lawyer has insisted the victim wasn't following police commands
* Police have claimed he was reaching through his car window for a gun
* But his family have insisted he did not own or carry a weapon
* Cops have also said they found a vial of the drug PCP in Crutcher's SUV
* Before the shooting, an officer in a helicopter was heard saying: 'That looks like a bad dude'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3802964/White-female-cop-shot-dead-unarmed-black-man-CHARGED-degree-manslaughter.html
"Shelby, a drug recognition expert, believed Crutcher was 'on something..." and even the guys in the chopper saw something wrong.
AUDIO FROM HELICOPTER
OFFICER 1: 'He's got his hands up for her now.
'This guy's still walking and not following commands.'
OFFICER 2: 'Time for taser I think.'
OFFICER 1: 'I've got a feeling this is going to happen.'
'That looks like a bad dude too, Probably on something.'
VOICE OVER THE RADIO: 'I think he may have been tasered.
'We've got shots fired... suspect down.'
Why can't they hire older adults? Older people who have been there, done that and have tons of life experiences. Most of policing involves "conflict resolution" and working with people. You are essentially a street corner bureaucrat/politician/lawyer/social worker/therapist/rabbi/priest/minister. Most situations involve substance misuse, mental health, traffic violations (6-303), attending court and domestic violence. Your jobs are emotionally draining and tough as hell. Its not a job for a 20 something kid who thinks its cool to be a copper because of the guns, high performance cars (chases), the spit and polish of the uniform and the POWER of the badge. I would apply if I was allowed.
LMAO on the 200 detectives that's just 2 extra per watch.
Anonymous said...
Everyone in the building was ordered to be in uniform and was ordered to be downstairs at 1400hrs to be addressed by the Sup. Each unit had to send one car. And all we got was this nonsense. Big waste of time.
9/22/2016 09:33:00 AM
Eddie brought the smoke.
YOU were the mirrors.
Hocus pocus!
Maybe it's because I work in 011 or maybe it's because I'm burned out but I don't really give a shit anymore about how manny coppers they say their gonna hire or move or retire or whatever. Who gives a flying fuck. Nothing will ever solve the ghetto violence that has flourished in the south and west sides because of our new ACLU masters. We police using PEZ boxes and a numbers mentality. What a joke. Until you tell me that theyre sending a ton of proactive coppers up north or elsewhere where people support police and pay taxes I'll stay jaded and numb.
Keep the line moving.
9/22/2016 04:58:00 PM
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Wow!!!
I can see YOU drank the Kool-Aid!
Cameras will not make me less fetal. You are clueless. Cameras will not force me to do any proactive work. Fetal will continue until law and order is again the law of the land. ACLU can make arrests and prosecute the lawless.
To the long winded poster who say "staying fetal is not an option" because of cameras has obviously never really worked the streets. If you are not available for a job they can't assign you a job. If we do everything by the book each job we handle will take an hour to do properly. Do not speed to the job, do not go through red lights and make all required notification from back at the station. Do not use your cell phones for any department related reason. No traffic stops and no investigative stops. Suspicious person calls ? Who's to say whether or not I see the guy hiding in the gangway.
Watch and see, things will just get worse.
I have a couple questions:
#1 What exactly is "real" police work
#2 Have the years of "real" police work affected ANYTHING
The south and west sides are still, if not worse, then they have ever been.
The south and west sides have more guns and drugs than ever before.
The shootings and homicides on the south and west sides are higher then in the last 20 years.
As a veteran of the south side, THE ONLY REAL VICTIMS HAVE BEEN THE POLICE who actually give a shit.
So if "real" police work means stopping shitheads in their own shithead neighborhood, what gains have WE seen.
Being the "real" police has not changed shit, we are only the pawns of politicians
WE don't write the laws, WE only enforce them
So who is really paying the price
Don't be a pawn
WE are not fodder
Use the laws and general orders to your advantage
The city has become worse in my 50 plus years of living here, for all that hard working police work that OUR BROTHERS have sacrificed
The reason is not because WE have not been doing our part but the politicians and bleeding hearts have not done theirs
PROTECT YOUR PARTNER, YOURSELF AND YOUR FELLOW OFFICERS.
Let the "community" enjoy the rewards of what they reap
Ignore the news, ignore the web, WE know the truth
STAY SAFE and go home to the only citizens that matter
If you scored under 750 on the Sgt. exam, you should make it. Thanks to the DOJ.
Even I, a somewhat gullible health care worker who left Chicago 26 years ago, called BS on Rahm's announcement. Please stay safe officers!
Last priority in this city is PUBLIC SAFETY. Highest priority, not upsetting the savages who live by the law of the jungle. After all they are voters and we know public safety officers don't vote so what's the big deal?
The real number would be a minimum of 2000 new officers hired by 2018 to increase the current work force to 13,500. That would mean 84 officers hired each month for the next 24 months. Never happening but sounds good to the sheeple and the media who spread the false narrative. Nothing will change until the Marxist at the ACLU are rode out on a rail and welfare requires either 8 hours of work or 8 hours of school 5 days a week. The Democrats have enslaved the poor to welfare in exchange for their votes and the poor will never become productive members of society because they don't want to lose that carrot that is constantly dangling in front of their nose.
Lift the residency requirement to get a better application pool
I'm in the 900's. I guess I'll get to the airport without a phone call.
I'm in the 300's. So, sorry kid. Maybe when you get some time on the job. LOL!
Expected retirees by 15 May will be around one thousand. Due to contract expiration and medical coverage issues, this will probably be the biggest mass exodus in a generation.
As I was reading this I suddenly pictured that scene from the 10 Commandments ( Charlton Heston). Except the retirees are the ones crossing the parted waters with Rahm playing the role of Rameses.
Why are officers arresting anyone for small amounts of narcotics.I was in Br 42 the other day and let'em go Luckman found FNPC on every case.Some cases started as misdemeanor and after being searched small amounts were found . Just charge them with the misdemeanor and toss the dope,who cares.If you want the hours just go to br 29.Keep it simple.Luckman is 83 yrs old and on the don't lockup blk and brown bus with the other politicians.The asa in that court have a hard time getting PC on felony's with him.
" Anonymous said...
Does this superintendent have any idea about anything?"
9/22/2016 07:38:00 AM
There once was a superintendent named Sam Nolan. He seemed like a gentleman. When asked a question at a press conference his answer was historic, "Man, I don't know what the HELL is going on" Very soon after,a new position was added to the budget. "Director of Public Safety." To oversee police and fire departments. Sam was given the position, and was never heard from again,.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Cameras will not make me less fetal. You are clueless. Cameras will not force me to do any proactive work. Fetal will continue until law and order is again the law of the land. ACLU can make arrests and prosecute the lawless.
9/22/2016 09:50:00 PM
If you don't listen to the idiots with gold stars and read the general orders they really can help you. No speeding to calls, obey traffic laws, make notifications (In station no using your cell phones), make sure vehicle is fueled,washed and everything works. Write paper (Even if non-criminal 5080-5081 make citizen happy give them an rd number while you finish your coffee), take your personals, lunch back each other up protect Blue nothing else matters does it?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It is 4:30 PM and news waiting for mayors speech at Malcolm X college at 6 PM.
It sounds like mayor walks on water and has all answers. But alderman are saying why did it take
so long to add police hiring.
Sad but true we are screwed by the mayor and media.
9/22/2016 04:34:00 PM
Remember before a certain election the lord Mayer promised to hire more Police, than it was put more on the street, etc...
How well did those promises work out?
Anonymous said...
Expected retirees by 15 May will be around one thousand. Due to contract expiration and medical coverage issues, this will probably be the biggest mass exodus in a generation.
As I was reading this I suddenly pictured that scene from the 10 Commandments ( Charlton Heston). Except the retirees are the ones crossing the parted waters with Rahm playing the role of Rameses.
9/23/2016 03:24:00 AM
More like a scene from Mad Max, with a thousand of us fleeing for our very lives and sanity.
Small amounts of dope should be kicked. If you find a gun, that's far more ominous and worthy of prosecution. The dope should lead to PC for further questioning and bigger and better things/fish. Judge Luckman is simply following the law, what other Judges working Prelim rooms are doing. Maybe, just maybe one of these small pinches will turn something around. A wake up call. Just saying...
Take 500 Plus Homicides and add over 3000 shootings and you get "Crime is down!"
So simple...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Lift the residency requirement to get a better application pool
9/23/2016 01:05:00 AM
What, and give up the inbred breeding????
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Cameras will not make me less fetal. You are clueless. Cameras will not force me to do any proactive work. Fetal will continue until law and order is again the law of the land. ACLU can make arrests and prosecute the lawless.
9/22/2016 09:50:00 PM
If you don't listen to the idiots with gold stars and read the general orders they really can help you. No speeding to calls, obey traffic laws, make notifications (In station no using your cell phones), make sure vehicle is fueled,washed and everything works. Write paper (Even if non-criminal 5080-5081 make citizen happy give them an rd number while you finish your coffee), take your personals, lunch back each other up protect Blue nothing else matters does it?
9/23/2016 07:44:00 AM
Most people are too fucking stupid though to figure that out.
The funny thing is that most of the people who blow off jobs would give their left nut to sit in the station all night. Then they get a job that requires paper and an excuse to fuck off in the station for a half hour and what do they do? They blow the fucking job off!!!!
Then they cry when somebody beefs on them because they wouldn't lock up domestic battery offender or write a report.
The same retards will be observed flying around lights and siren. You think yourself "funny, i didnt hear a hot job come out." You check the PDT.................nothing. Are they on a traffic stop???? Nope. Just fucking stupid. That's all. Lights and sirens to go from hole to hole. It's really mind boggling.
cut approx. 2000 from the budget
bring back captain rank , pay captains to perform duty of lieutenant , create new district title dss , sergeants as always run the WATCH and Patrol Operations ,
demote incompetent command staff to another new rank XO , allow them to keep same salary , close a few districts , areas , continue hiding full duty sworn officers inside commanders , deputy chief ,human square and police headquarters
now fool the people again , people shot over 3,000 those victims if shooter was a better shot would be a statistic on a table at ME Office
few tears , new name for OPS , IPRA , say you will hire 1,000 new police officers over two years . Sounds like something our Mexican American Mayoral Candidate Jesus "Chuy " Garcia wanted to do , along with a Forensic Audit of City Budget .
In 2019 we will run a Stronger Mexican American that will not need a Run Off Election in April , Our Mexican American Candidate will win with over 50 % of Voters.
Apparently they forgot that they take 2+ years to even begin hiring from the list.
How about all those guys who were kicked off the hiring list for being "Generational Police" or those who were on a legitimate waiver that were told "we aren't going to give you another waiver"..... Even though they were IOD while working for the department in a civilian role?
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