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The other day, we hinted at something hinky in the self-defense shooting. The original shooter was in a hot car, circling the block, opened fire, wounding a private ambulance worker, who returned fire, killing the shooter.
Self defense, right?
Well, sort of:
Self defense, right?
Well, sort of:
- For 10 years, Michael Arquero built a new life after leaving prison. He changed his name, found a job he loved, married a woman he loved even more, had two sons and settled into a nice home in Avondale away from the streets where he ran with gangs.
But a split-second decision last weekend threatens to tear all that apart.
Arquero, 33, was at a food stand in the Humboldt Park neighborhood on Sept. 9, on an errand for his pregnant wife who had a late-night craving for tacos, according to police and his family. Just before midnight, a Honda Civic circled the 2500 block of West Division Street two or three times before someone inside started shooting, hitting Arquero, according to police and court records.
Arquero fired back, killing the 18-year-old driver, police said. Two plainclothes officers heard the gunfire, pulled up and fired at Arquero, possibly hitting him too, according to police.
So a convicted felon and gangbanger changes his name and ::PRESTO!:: he can pass a background check in Illinois to get a Concealed Carry License? Pardon our French, but what the fuck? Seriously? Someone recognized him and tried to kill him, regardless of his name. And the "tacos after midnight" story is just a little too pat - a hundred toothpicks will get you decent odds he was still banging on the corner after dark.
And the anti-gun crowd will use this as some sort of twisted example of how the system failed, so every other law abiding citizen should be punished for someone who is willing (and abetted by the State) to break the law.
And the anti-gun crowd will use this as some sort of twisted example of how the system failed, so every other law abiding citizen should be punished for someone who is willing (and abetted by the State) to break the law.
Labels: gun issues
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
59 Comments:
Felony UUW is now an ANOV. Come on man, where you been. In fact before too long everything is gonna be an ANOV. Even murder.
No doubt the POS did not submit his prints for the CCW. With his new name, no record found of any past. He gets a new name, gets a DL with new name, gets a FOID with new name, and gets a CCW permit with new name. I guess on the questionnaire for FOID and CCW will have a new question added, "Have you been known by anyother name(s)?".
Got to wonder how many other gangbangers have done the same think?
Sounds like Governor Ryan's commercial license inspectors were reassigned to the carry permit program?
Glad that Crook County thoroughly reviews each and every application.
Otherwise some felon could change his name and get a carry license he is not allowed to possess!
Makes you wonder how well the state performs their background checks for a concealed carry, but one way or another he would have gotten a gun.
Plenty of tacos in Avondale. On just about every block. No need to hike it to Division Street.
But, really? He changed his name and moved to the faraway, exotic locale of...
AVONDALE?
How about maybe you move to Moline if you really want to escape your gang past?
And we won't even talk about how many blocks in Avondale are no-go zones, thanks to banger families moving into several houses and apartments on those blocks.
I want a matricula so I too can start over .
Private ambulance worker?
That's another job where the state investigates your background to get a license?
And it's a Felony to falsify your application.......
because we all know the gun thing will return with a misdermeanor or less.......
"...For 10 years, Michael Arquero built a new life after leaving prison. He changed his name, found a job he loved, married a woman he loved even more, had two sons and settled into a nice home in Avondale away from the streets where he ran with gangs. "
For once, doesn't this sound like the "he was turning his life around" story we always hear was for real.
Apply for the concealed with a finger print... duh
I was just reading the full story and then the comments on breaking news and decided to check out the concealed carry statute. Unless I missed it, it doesn't make any mention of being a convicted felon in the statute. Obviously to get an FOID Card it asks you if you're a convicted felon, but on the concealed application under the Illinois resident section it does not specifically say "felon," only that you "not prohibited under the Firearm Owner's Identification Card Act or federal law from possessing or receiving a firearm." I feel like in this crooked state not flat out saying "Have you ever been convicted of a felony?" is an out for anybody in this situation.
430 ILCS 66/25
Sec. 25. Qualifications for a license.
The Department shall issue a license to an applicant completing an application in accordance with Section 30 of this Act if the person:
(1) is at least 21 years of age;
(2) has a currently valid Firearm Owner's
Identification Card and at the time of application meets the requirements for the issuance of a Firearm Owner's Identification Card and is not prohibited under the Firearm Owner's Identification Card Act or federal law from possessing or receiving a firearm;
(3) has not been convicted or found guilty in this
State or in any other state of:
(A) a misdemeanor involving the use or threat of
physical force or violence to any person within the 5 years preceding the date of the license application; or
(B) 2 or more violations related to driving
while under the influence of alcohol, other drug or drugs, intoxicating compound or compounds, or any combination thereof, within the 5 years preceding the date of the license application; and
(4) is not the subject of a pending arrest warrant,
prosecution, or proceeding for an offense or action that could lead to disqualification to own or possess a firearm;
(5) has not been in residential or court-ordered
treatment for alcoholism, alcohol detoxification, or drug treatment within the 5 years immediately preceding the date of the license application; and
(6) has completed firearms training and any
education component required under Section 75 of this Act.
(Source: P.A. 98-63, eff. 7-9-13.)
From the way the tribune has the story –which is vague– it seems like the guy actually turned himself around, and he carries a gun for protection in Chicago, two things you theoretically endorse.
If the police know something, or have an inkling towards this not being self-defense enough to stand firm on first-degree murder, I'm definitely left confused by what your ideal outcome of this situation would have been? Both men dead?
Also, I've seen a lot of little arguments in the comments in other posts about felony murder. Is that a charge that could be pursued based on him shooting in self defense but carrying illegally?
I'm summary, why charge the man with murder?
-curious kid
I have been waiting since Oct.1,2015 for my CC and this guy gets past Darts blanket objection to anyone,ever convicted !
A Big Fuck You Dart,
You cant run a jail,how could you even think about running a City ?
I wonder if he'll change his name again when he is released.
He may be outed
He may lose his permit
but
He will win the ghetto lottery
because
PO PO shot him
All good
Well you got to give him credit for one thing - he's a good shot. After he changes his name again, someone tell him CPD is hiring.
I'll bet it won't take the "man with no jaw" and his I team to figure out that Avondale and Humbolt Psrk are a little of a stones throw and there are several taco stands closer than the one that the paramedic frequents but then again the taco stand happens to be in his former gang territory! That why he got the carry concealed so he can defend his neighborhood as well as himself. Just like any other gangbanger.
He better hope there is a merit detective assigned to his case, LOL
The "late night craving run for the pregnant wife" is the same as "I was out to get food for my kids", "I was out looking for a job"
Don't the fingerprint for concealed carry? Did he change his fingerprints too, or did he scam the connected outfit that does the printing? My daughter was sent to a fingerprint place for her job at CPS during the background check. Same place she would have to go to have her prints taken for her CCL. She asked if the same set of prints could be used for both the job and CCL permit. They said yes, but she would have to pay both fees.
Follow the money, who owns these "approved" outfits? How much do they contribute to the greedy politicians.
Civilian employees who wanted a CCL asked if our department could use the live scan system to print them for their permits. Were told no, they had to go to an state approved vendor. WTF, it's the same system with the prints going through the same data base. Again FOLLOW THE MONEY.
And tacos late at night, I always thought it was pickles and ice cream!
This guy needs to find a new taco joint in a better neighborhood.....
There's something the paper mysteriously left out. This savage pointed his gun at a Police Officers chest and pulled the trigger twice, with the gun failing to go off.
I thought concealed to carry applicants have to get finger printed. The finger printing of this person applying should have identified him as a convicted felon. Why there was a failure in identifying him should be investigated and corrected. Why punish law abiding citizens for some failure in the system.
This late night gang banger running out for some food for his loving wife at home narrative...I've seen it before! Oh, the TBK incident! There too was a loving gangbanger just out answering the call every living husband gets...to go get tacos at 3am. They love telling this "he is a good kid" bullshit. The media has taken it upon themselves to rehabilitate these asshole segments of society. Look how they won't describe offenders of violent crimes anymore...Latin Kings out at 3 are just out performing their spousal duties...and the police...well the police are the underlying root of ALL their problems!!! Fucking joke
What's up with the pregnant wife always wanting tacos after midnight. That's the same excuse the shithead used with the four coppers who were fired and rehired and about to be fired again from the incident 10 years ago
The HennyPenny Labor Day Weekend Suspension Initiative must have put a dent in available personnel.
No Police - No Event.
Blue Lives Matter First.
The ghetto holds no innocence.
The whole ISP background check system is obviously a crock.
The PrickWrinkle Effect is to blame.
Vote Republican and Keep Shooters in Jail or Deported.
And the "tacos after midnight" story is just a little too pat - a hundred toothpicks will get you decent odds he was still banging on the corner after dark.
That's the same story/excuse another shithead used, pregnant wife craving, when he fucked with the off duty copper who kicked his ass ten years ago at the taco joint. And now the city wants to fire him again!These low life ambulance chasing lawyers have to come up with a better narrative then that...
You do not have to be fingerprinted to get a CCL. Doing so is an option that results in the background check coming back faster.
That Taco Stand must make the best Tacos in the Western Hemisphere because this **poor picked on 'medic', Michael Arquero, ** drove a hell of a long way from his Avondale neighborhood to get some fast food for his taco-craving pregnant wife. One guy in the Trib comments said he knows 1,000 Taco Stands between Avondale & Humboldt Park. I think he exaggerated a bit. (LOL)
Buy what gets me is his wife. He didn't just NOT mention 'his past' to her. He hid the facts from her that he was a Convicted Felon and Ex-Convict. And those Felonies weren't for some 'nice' white collar crime like embezzlement, but Violent Felonies: Attempted MURDER and Aggravated Assault of a police officer. That's some forgiving woman this Melissa Betancourt is, yes sirree Bob.
Also, the fingerprint screw-up by the ISP is really irrelevant, though disturbing to say the least. This guy KNEW he was banned from owning a gun, yet he tries and succeeds in first getting his FOID Card and then a Conceal Carry Permit. And assuming he bought his gun from a Licensed FFL Dealer, Arquero LIED on the Form when buying the gun so he could pass the FBI background check. Then again, as everyone knows -- Criminals don't care about any silly laws.
Michael Arquero has proved that -- again.
And here in Illinois if you are a retired police officer in good standing you must undergo a background check EVERY FUCKING YEAR (and pay $$$ for it) in order to Conceal Carry.
It shouldn't surprise anyone with this TRIBUNE SUGAR COATED STORY ..... He's a CONVICTED GANG BANGER with a GUN WHO JUST HAPPENS TO be in a known STREET GANG AREA ..... Please OLD HABITS ARE HARD TO BREAK !!!!!
Fingerprints for Concealed Carry are not mandatory, while they can expedite the application process they are not a requirement. This guy committed a felony on his FOID application, he lied about his conviction and he lied about his alias's. And why didn't he stop shooting when the police arrived?
Could of had his rights reinstated and record expunged...... Just playing devils advocate for those who think this is impossible.... You can get you're right to carry back and get rid of the felony record.....its not easy but it IS doable.
He's a gangbanger liar who falsified his carry application. He went back to the hood to be with his homies. Let's quit the turning his life around bullshit.
Rule number one for living a long life in Chicago: Never eat outdoors after midnight.
From the way the tribune has the story –which is vague– it seems like the guy actually turned himself around, and he carries a gun for protection in Chicago, two things you theoretically endorse.
If the police know something, or have an inkling towards this not being self-defense enough to stand firm on first-degree murder, I'm definitely left confused by what your ideal outcome of this situation would have been? Both men dead?
Also, I've seen a lot of little arguments in the comments in other posts about felony murder. Is that a charge that could be pursued based on him shooting in self defense but carrying illegally?
I'm summary, why charge the man with murder?
Hey kid. You kill someone, you always get charged. It's a formality. Police aren't the lawyers or judges. They will be the ones to drop the charges
How the hell did he even get a FOID card.
The taco story IS thin. So is the idea that the wife had "no idea" about his background. She had three kids with the guy, met his whole family and never asked why he has a different last name. No one EVER mentioned his prison time? No gang tattoos? And he told his employer about his felony conviction but not his wife? Also, HE knew he used to gangbang…what are you doing in LK territory late at night?
so you don't need to submit a fingerprint to get Concealed Carry? Enlightening ...
same thing with Uber. One dude used his brother's name ... prolly because he had a previous DUI
if you let your wife use Uber you are soft
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'll bet it won't take the "man with no jaw" and his I team to figure out that Avondale and Humbolt Psrk are a little of a stones throw and there are several taco stands closer than the one that the paramedic frequents but then again the taco stand happens to be in his former gang territory! That why he got the carry concealed so he can defend his neighborhood as well as himself. Just like any other gangbanger.
He better hope there is a merit detective assigned to his case, LOL
9/17/2016 07:43:00 AM
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True dat. You can't swing a dead cat without hitting a taco stand. But a taco stand fully staffed by MLD's - that's a whole different story.
Another police officer on duty ambushed in patrol car:
http://abc7chicago.com/news/2-police-officers-among-7-shot-in-philadelphia;-gunman-1-victim-dead/1515506/
Prayers sent please be observant forget speeding to ghettoville nonsense calls protect blue nothing else matters!
S said...
"...For 10 years, Michael Arquero built a new life after leaving prison. He changed his name, found a job he loved, married a woman he loved even more, had two sons and settled into a nice home in Avondale away from the streets where he ran with gangs. "
For once, doesn't this sound like the "he was turning his life around" story we always hear was for real.
9/17/2016 02:43:00 AM
Yes.
This guy has 3 previous UUW arrests which were all convictions in addition to this new arrest. Add in his "c-note" gangster tattoo he's far from a good citizen
Anonymous said...
I thought concealed to carry applicants have to get finger printed. The finger printing of this person applying should have identified him as a convicted felon. Why there was a failure in identifying him should be investigated and corrected. Why punish law abiding citizens for some failure in the system.
9/17/2016 09:32:00 AM
Because the gun control forces are monomaniacal liars. Their Goal Is NO Guns. They do not want the system to work, they want it to fail. They want CCW to fail. They want criminals with guns. They pray for death and murder. If permitted CCW succeeds in Chicago and Illinois, like it has in over 40 other states, then that proves their anti-gun positions have been lies. Their Whole Political Existence Has Been A Lie.
They cannot allow such a truth to penetrate their rosy coddled life. Better a million people are victimized by robbers, rapists, thieves and murderers, than they admit gun control is a LIE.
They are not honest people trying to make society better. They are Gun Control because they want CONTROL.
Control of You.
Control of Me.
Control of Our Children.
I called it right first! And I'm just a citizen who lives in the area and is over this shit.
My comment from last week:
The guy who returned fire is a banger, too. The Spanish Cobras and MLDs have been going at it for months. The "restaurant" is a known gang hang out and there has been gunfire exchanged right there before. As a resident of the area I'm pretty surprised a cop is defending the shithead without knowing the situation. Especially as it makes it sound like the officer (female is who I saw shoot) did something wrong.
Oh and right across from the taco stand is Ald Maldonado's office. Maybe now 12 and 14 will get the officers we've been promised.
9/11/2016 12:58:00 AM
I'm sorry, not quite the subject, but last week I asked the union to quit printing
FOP sticker's (since we r target's) and use those' money's for relief fund for
copper's involved in shooting's, (legal or financial?)What a waste of r(member's)
money! Please comment, thank u all! And fuck there magazine also, it suck's!
That idiot was still gangbanging.
This is making me hungry for tacos.
I'm sorry, not quite the subject, but last week I asked the union to quit printing
FOP sticker's (since we r target's) and use those' money's for relief fund for
copper's involved in shooting's, (legal or financial?)What a waste of r(member's)
money! Please comment, thank u all! And fuck there magazine also, it suck's!
9/17/2016 07:42:00 PM
Looks like your parents saved money on your education. Use that. Maybe you could open a store that sells apostrophes. You seem to have a lot of extra ones. I'm actually surprised you can spell FOP. You even somehow managed to convince yourself that there should be an apostrophe after the word "those." Unbelievable.
The democratic way: no concealed carry for anyone, or make it impossible for anyone to do so with so many restrictions, no money for cops to protect you, let all non-violent offenders out of jail to flood the streets with panhandlers, thieves, burglars, pickpockets, short jail sentences for shooters and gang members, high taxes, more illegal immigrants. They make life worth living.
Could of had his rights reinstated and record expunged...... Just playing devils advocate for those who think this is impossible.... You can get you're right to carry back and get rid of the felony record.....its not easy but it IS doable.
Uh no it isnt Thats why they have records Misdemeanors can be expunged Not felonies
There you have it ! People from the earlier post jumping on the bandwagon of a " conseal carry " shithead !! Glad the police came out ok .
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Fingerprints for Concealed Carry are not mandatory, while they can expedite the application process they are not a requirement. This guy committed a felony on his FOID application, he lied about his conviction and he lied about his alias's. And why didn't he stop shooting when the police arrived?
9/17/2016 11:11:00 AM
Thanks I stand corrected. I thought it was mandatory, so I looked it up and there it was, MOT MANDATORY. My next question why aren't finger printing someone who wants to carry a gun mandatory?
Since when are fingerprints not necessary for Ccw. My Florida permit required them as did Utah. I thought I had to be fingerprinted for Illinois. Am I wrong?
The Trib story was naively written. Kept saying "turned his life around." The Trib fired all of the veteran reporters and brought in these young things. I see them at 26. The shooter has an AGG Batt to Copper conviction. Somebody who touches a cop is a very violent dude. Think about it. Ever been pulled over for a speeder? Does a law abiding or non-violent motorist think for one second about hitting a copper? Hell no. When I am pulled over for my bullshit speeders--I got a lead foot, I am a bit nervous---"what happening" its unsettling...the last thing I think about is confrontation. Even veteran attorneys who know the system think like that. This dude just did not "turn his life around." He bought a gun because he is a violent guy.
One commenter noted that misdemeanors can be expunged. No Sir. Only those where a sentence of Supervision is imposed can be expunged. DUIs can never be expunged. CD, (conviction) or Paper can never be expunged. The Governor or President can grant Felony and Misdemeanor Executive clemency for convictions. That is a very long, uncertain, expensive process. It is a long shot at best. A Hearing is held before the Illinois Prisoner Review Board. They then make a recommendation to the Governor. The Governor takes it under advisement. If clemency is granted, those convictions can be expunged. Again, that is a long shot. Hail Mary pass. Usually granted to 35-50 year old who committed a property crime when they were a teenager and now needs a clean record for a good job.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Could of had his rights reinstated and record expunged...... Just playing devils advocate for those who think this is impossible.... You can get you're right to carry back and get rid of the felony record.....its not easy but it IS doable.
9/17/2016 11:15:00 AM
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You don't get rid of convictions , unless you are pardoned. He did felony time. No expunging that. An arrest, where you were acquitted, you can expunge. People think they can get anything expunged from their criminal record. Hope you're not the Police.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Could of had his rights reinstated and record expunged...... Just playing devils advocate for those who think this is impossible.... You can get you're right to carry back and get rid of the felony record.....its not easy but it IS doable.
9/17/2016 11:15:00 AM
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You don't get rid of convictions , unless you are pardoned. He did felony time. No expunging that. An arrest, where you were acquitted, you can expunge. People think they can get anything expunged from their criminal record. Hope you're not the Police.
9/19/2016 02:32:00 PM
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absolutely correct you cannot get even a misdemeanor conviction expunged in Illinois (and prolly nowhere can you)
This (sadly) isn't surprising and brings up a recurring problem: incomplete records from Cook County Circuit Court. Why is that important? Because if dispositions are incomplete or missing on a rap sheet then someone who shouldn't have a gun can get one. Why? Because if a "conviction" isn't reported on the rap sheet disposition, it didn't happen for Brady bill purposes and Cook County Circuit Court is notorious for incomplete, haphazard and missing disposition information. (CPD, by the way, keeps detailed records but they don't show up on Brady bill inquiries.) How does this play out in the real world?
One time a dirtbag with 62 entries on his rap sheet had no reported dispositions although one of the entries was for his arrival at Joliet for a homicide!
In another instance there actually was a Brady bill hit when a guy from Lake County tried to buy a gun in Wisconsin. The Lake County Sheriff's Office did more than just confirm the hit but a commander pulled the restraining order and saw that the mope claimed to his now-ex-wife that he wanted to be the next Timothy McVeigh and take all of them on the road to Glory. So he called Kenosha to bring them up to speed. Kenosha calls the ATF but how does all of this cooperation play out when it gets in the hands of the feds? <>
Michelle Obama was visiting Milwaukee and there was only one ATF agent left in the entire state who wasn't helping out the Secret Service. And what does she do? She says she's too busy but calls the store to tell them not to sell the mope a gun. Yes, folks, this is 21st century law enforcement, federal style. WTF.
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