Great Idea You Idiot
Amazingly, this guy breathes on his own:
- An influential alderman is demanding that Mayor Rahm Emanuel relax police hiring standards before the April 1 and 2 police exam to attract more minorities at a time of high crime and deep distrust.
Earlier this week, Emanuel acknowledged that he would have to work “double hard” to convince minorities to apply and “show the Police Department is a different police department” than the one the U.S. Justice Department has condemned as biased.
Now, Ald. Anthony Beale (9th) is pronouncing the unprecedented minority outreach campaign as doomed to failure without immediate changes to the hiring process itself.
Just when the DOJ (and Rahm supposedly) want a smarter, more legally oriented, by-the-book police force, this moron wants standards lowered. Makes perfect sense.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
163 Comments:
Maybe Trump will send the DOJ here to investigate Cook County politicians, Rahm, Toni, and the alderfools.
If the standards are any lower then stop testing recruits in the academy. We are lucky they have a 10th grade reading level. They are currently accepting known gang members. maybe stop background checks and the polygraph? How low is it necessary to find minority applicants?
Standards lowered?
Isn't that what Merit promotions do? Lower the standards so that "average" people can get promoted?
GO ahead hire criminals, drug users and gang members and see how much that will cost the city in law suits. The legal bills will be astronomical. Also it will drive the good applicants away and good cops off the job and to other departments. As far as hiring so called "minorities," who are they? I don't think blacks are the minority anymore. In fact, I believe there are more non-white police officers on the job now than white. This beal guy sounds awefully dumb.
OT: In-fighting within the City-Wide (Bluevoice) ranks?
Kevin Graham has always been a pawn of Mark Donahue and Billy Dougherty. Because both Mark and Billy are retired they put Kevin Graham up as president. Well Kevin doesn’t like being a puppet any longer. Apparently he has told his masters that he is on the top of the ticket and they’ll do what he wants. Kevin has zero chance of winning. Donahue and Dougherty are just using the others on their ticket to help pay for their mailer.
How ironic that both Donahue and Dougherty who were always anti-retiree and now retired and have to carry a large portion of the retiree vote to have a chance.
All they have to no is give me a Golden Handshake and I will be happy to leave. Because if you think I'm going to work with some asshole i locked up enoughback in the day, you are crazy...We have enough aresstee on the job now and a bunch of dog asses..If you can't pay a fucking parking ticket,sold weed as kid,beat your baby's momma up and steal from your mom and now you want to be the police..It's over. Rshm you seriously single-handedly f***** up this department. You should be proud. We are the laughing stock of Police Dept across the country and the most currupt...CPD is a joke
So everyone wondering where this whole merit thing came from. Here it is... Lawsuits...
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1997-01-18/news/9701180138_1_police-promotions-police-officers-chicago-police-department
Increase the boundaries to get a greater candidate pool. Maybe Cook county? Bad enough to deal with shit, now you want to hire it.
The mind is a terrible thing to waste.
You hear in old police stories of how the beat cop would clear the corner. No contact cards and ISRs required just a stern hello and good bye. I won't mention what type of shampoo was offered or given in samples.
New police stories need smarter cops. Garbage in and we will have Garbage coming out. Give better training to the existing officers and select the best and brightest as PPOs.
Beale's daddy was a Policeman.
Maybe he bears a grudge or something because
he's been caught with his foot off the bag
shit-talking about Police pay and benefits.
He wanted to strip us of duty availability
pay during one contentious contract negotiation
even though duty availability is in lieu of
pensionable pay.
So Beale has been banging off his bazoo
about increased Police scrutiny and
accountability, but he wants to relax
hiring standards even with DOJ, ACLU,
#bl(a)m and local media standing at the
ready to paw through Chicago Coppers underwear
drawers just because they're Chicago Coppers?
His daddy must not have whipped his ass
enough when he was growing up, or something...
What's his problem?
Really?
Another elected dunce who uses his head
for a hat rack.
Let Beale have these lower standards
in HIS WARD only.
His constituents will STILL return him to office
term after term until the entire ward is
nothing but bombed out urban prairie.
Lift residency get better candidates. Period. In this day and age where you need to be a perfect human being with a phd degree the last thing you need to do is lower standards for hiring.
By the book police, sheeet.... Court system should be by the book too.... Police, courts, and jail system--- by the book
Who actually cares anymore?
Fuck em. They want to invite the wolves into the hen house, then so be it. New hires straight to the hood. Win win. Drop residency. Give them what they want. Maybe they will have to deal with a 6 Gun Pete.
The alder creatures can't cry, the neighborhood can't cry. This is what they demanded.LMAO
STAY FETAL!!! Let time run it's course. Madonna will be there suckin everybody's joint.
Get rid of the college requirement so I can apply!
Rahmie would you be doing this for the children?
These protests are ridiculous and that includes the women's March. To all the women who are so offended by the silly stuff he said to another guy on a bus...Just remember, I guarantee your husband, brother, father, and grandfather said similar things in their life. Get over it. No one is against woman. Plus everyone knows it's a woman's world, give us guys a break.
Im Black, a PO and EMBARRASSED by this type of bullshit. Re-enforce the stereotype why don't you!!!!
So is he saying minorities are not capable of passing the current exam? That they are less than qualified? A handicap?
Does the FAA do this for pilots? Does the AMA lower standards for heart surgeons?
Do NOT take this Chicago Police Test or any Job with Chicago!
I tell that to everyone I know or ask me about it!
There are plenty of other cities and states to become the police, other than Chicago!
Chicago WANTS to take our earned benefits away such as health care retirement, reduce our pensions and other benefits!
I am stating facts and is not sour grapes!
People and or Folks have been warned!
KMA 25+
Nobody said that you had to be smart to be a alderman, what does he care if they could read or write a report, be a mediator in a domestic and speak proper English as long as their skin is not white. Lower the standards? how much lower can you go before you have a department full of GED graduates
That's great. Maybe the city can hire all the criminals and terrorists Obama pardoned/commuted. Remember if terrorists had jobs, they wouldn't want to kill any of us.
So the police department should have the same lower standards as it takes to become a alderman, minimum intelligents and a loud mouth.
Sounds good, as long as those ghetto thug hires must stay in the ghetto for their career.
The statndards for alderman are all ready low, what more to you want.
When will you guys get it, these are all calculated moves. The police dept. is just a tool they need to get more votes. They will change anything and sacrifice anyone to do so. If you don't think 95% of the aldermen aren't reading off a script your crazy.
How do you expect any Police officer to respect the job under the leadership of the current superintendent and his twerp handler?
Kind of like the first Police Academy movie.
Instead of lowering the hiring standards for police how about we demand increasing the standards for publicly elected officials!
But Special Ed tells a crowd on the southside that the CPD is racist!
Wow CPD, your boss pretty much called you all racists in a town hall meeting.
New Orleans is doing that right now. If you thought the joint is bad now, you haven't seen anything.
R.I.C.O.! The gangs, crook co., city council, courts, a certain church, and all the libtarded forces of gross idiocy.
POOR RAHM
get rid of residency and you will naturally increase the amount of applicants.
Could you imagine a hospital telling the public lets lower standards for surgeons.
Only a moronic Alderman in a crappy ward would ever come up with an ass hat idea like this. That alderman should receive all the lower standard recruits and see how it works with his community.
15 shot in 12 hours in chiraq:
http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/crime/230598743-story
The murder and mayhem tour in full swing why didn't the marchers march for a cause like this to make America great again? Elected shun the president but yet cannot control this cities out of control violence what is being done? Hopefully President Trump puts a boot in their ass and gets it done expeditiously and quickly! Beale you want standards relaxed are you insane?
On another subject who is getting airport security contracts?
Again very dangerous and stupid idea. The public and the DOJ apparently point out the lack of professionalism and integrity this dept is suffering from and you're gonna relax the standards? Just to get more non white applicants? Fucking height of stupidity and racist notion if I've ever heard. Who are these morons in charge who put them there and why are we even listening to them?
Lower standards and raise expectations. What could go wrong?
My Brain Hurts!!!!!
1000+ murders for 2017!!!
If you ever met Beale you would understand why.
Big news coming out about Beale this week which will shut him up,he will have his own problems..
Hey this is Chicago, they have already lowered the standard's for the Mayor and his Alderthieves.
Come on, it's Ald. Anthony Beale (9th) asking. Of course he's going to ask for the standards to be lowered. He's gots to get does people and folks who keps him in office a job.
Hey Rham, three more years buddy then we can deal with that dude Prick-winckle as mayor.
Maybe Trump’s Education Secretary will be approving tuition vouchers. Send these kids to catholic school and maybe in 20 years they can save the inner city. Dam sure the CPS and the communist CTU have screwed this city as much as gangs and drugs have.
But as long as the live ones vote democratic Rahm doesn't care.
It's obvious that he wants to apply the Aldermanic intelligence standards to the CPD.
Who ties his shoes for him?
I'd call him a moron,but that would be insulting to the moron community.
How is that a great idea? I thought that minorities were equall to whites? Why do they need special help to get on the police and get promoted? Most of the bosses today are products of minoritie help and the phony merit selection which is really political promotions that iswhy the department is in the toilet.
Well.did anyone else see Eddie Johnson tell an audience that Chicago Police Department is broken and racists?
CBS2 had it yesterday evening.
I guess as a Black man married to an Asian women with three kids I must be a failure
Since I work for the Chicago Police Dept. for past 18 years
What is going on? Please Make CPD Great Again!
Beale has always been a racist and blithering idiot.
Lower standards to get more applicants and more diversity.
What could possibly go wrong??
Why does news affairs non-suit all of the tickets issues to the news media? They have been doing that for years. Wasn't there an order out a few years back ordering pos not to write the news trucks?
I don't know, so I'll ask. Do Police Officers in Illinois have to meet a minimum standard set by the state? Don't know how its done there, but in some states Police Officers, (Sheriffs, Deputy Sheriffs, State Police, Highway Police, etc.) have to be certified by the state. Local authorities cannot "lower" standards even if they wanted to.
J.J.
I would rather have fewer cops, but ones that are smart, sharp and able to think on their feet, than a herd of high paid morons and/or petty crooks.
Isn't this "the soft racism of lower expectations" we hear so much about. Aldercreature Beale has just pronounced, for all the world to hear, that minorities are not as smart as whites so you have to make testing simpler for them. WOW!!!!!
The aldercreature needs to sit down and watch Cocaine Cowboys
I can't wait to here of the scandals that will erupt 2 to five years after they lower the standards even more!
Again and again and again, you just can't fix stupid.
Minority Recruitment? With whites being the "minority group" population in the City of Chicago January 2017 guess the alderman wants to target more Caucasian hiring?
In the last 25 years we have raised the standards of police officers and lowered their numbers. May I suggest we do the same for Aldermen?
I hate to repeat what I've said before. Think about this through the courts view. You get one of these mutts on the stand to testify to their arrest. Any decent lawyer, even OUR public defenders, find out about the officers back ground, and it's game over, case dismissed. Oh wait, then comes the lawsuit for an illegal arrest and wham, ghetto lottery!!!
If Beale sponsors candidates, will they be patronage hacks?
No one should be lining up to take cpd. One of my biggest regrets but thankfully I made it out. Couldn't be happier now.
12:13am, good insight! Kudos to you Sir!
remove college requirement for merit promotion. Require 10 years in grade. Not these 2 yr wonders. How many old timers on this job would make excellent Sgt's? How many of us would follow a real Sgt promoted to Lt that has 10 or 15 yrs of experience but no college. There are quite a few of em on patrol, and they sure as heck know more about the streets and forgotten more than these College educated newbies that only care about their own skins and upward mobility. Get some real Bosses, not cheaters, or clout babies. Bosses who know how to get the job done, cause they have been doing it. Not these sorry excuses we currently have.
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/01/21/supt-eddie-johnson-makes-a-bold-statement-at-community-meeting/
Just when the DOJ (and Rahm supposedly) want a smarter, more legally oriented, by-the-book police force, this moron wants standards lowered. Makes perfect sense.
Makes perfect sense for idiot Chicago
(OT) President Trump is correct about the dishonest media we as police experience it constantly as our elected feed them lies, CNN said that Trump had no numbers watching him but look over here behind the curtain entertainment weekly liberal publication shows this biggest in 36 years:
http://ew.com/tv/2017/01/21/trump-inauguration-ratings/
Ok, lower the standards by dropping the college level. Then hire these people, put them on the south and west sides, open district vacancy bids and let us go where the folks/peoples like us more. I'm all for this!
Really looking forward to the CPD relaxing hiring standards. This opens up an exciting career path for me and my fellow high school classmates.
Joliet Correctional High School, class of 2013.
OT wonder what it cost the city for the womens marc Sat.
Dropping the residency requirement for police should be number one goal for this contract. They don't like white people, give them an out?
Wow CPD, your boss pretty much called you all racists in a town hall meeting.
****
Oh God, what now? I prove I'm racist every day by letting the community deal with their own problems. I'm so sick of the blatant and acceptable racism and then false cries of racism. Pussy cry babies can handle themselves like they told me hundreds of times. That type of racism is perfectly acceptable though. 29 shot in a toasty January weekend and I give zero fucks. SCC should post the most serious recruit criminal backgrounds. That would be interesting to see who has delivery charges and even weapons charges. Obama argued that delivery of controlled substance while armed with a gun were over-sentencing and NOT VIOLENT in nature because the gun wasn't used, just happened to be carried. Many sentences commuted and that was last summer. Will the same standards apply for our recruits?
CPD: earned, not given. Fucking joke.
OT: anyone know why O'Neill left so fast and Jon Johnson was his replacement in personnel? Is Johnson a Commander or Director? Is it true West told him he had to leave?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
My Brain Hurts!!!!!
1/22/2017 08:05:00 AM
https://youtu.be/vacBxnLocA8
The alder creature wants more potential " Merit" employees who can become exempts. A bigger pool of illiterates to choose from.
Im Black, a PO and EMBARRASSED by this type of bullshit. Re-enforce the stereotype why don't you!!!!
1/22/2017 05:23:00 AM
It's a direct slap in the face to all of us minority's. Maybe the issue is that a tremendous about of minority's are smart enough to not consider a job in which your employer is always trying to screw you and the individuals who are supposed to support your decisions will be the 1st to stick a knife in your back. If they relax the hiring standards, I foresee callback greatly expanding. Corporation council should probably add a few attorneys too..
Beal, PeckerWinkle, Rush, Gutterez, JJsr, Fr Phaker...a few of the biggest racists in Illinois.
These fools, plus Obama in state and federal politics for how long, and the plight of the ghetto hasn't been altered one iota.
Lower them standards. Just like the credit ratings for the city, county, state.
The electorate lowered their standards and Beale is now a big city AlderStooge. Bellyaching Bigmouth.
Speaking of CPS, and factored into the Dept, the entrance exams are as unchallenging as any test given by CPS.
The Dept. is not looking for neurosurgeons, (example: Special Ed) but the ethical background aspect quite important.
Knothead Special Ed has made many bad decisions, ethical and operational and he is responsible for the division and moral of the Dept., as is PrickWrinkle and 99% of elected Democrats.
Lowering standards doesn't attract minorities.
If that's permitted, PrickWrinkle and dilDart can begin to recruit from the CC Jail population.
Stay Fetal.
Look what happened when they lowered the standards for Aldermen.
This goes to show the education level in the minority communities. The written portion of the exam is a joke as it is and they want to dummy it down. We need to make the entrance exam available for public consumption so they can see how incredibly easy it is already. You think CPD has problems, just wait. Only from the mind of a liberal.
If you have to lower the standard for minorities what does that say Alderman? That minorities are dumber than standard?
No surprise here.
The standards were "relaxed" when they rigged the game with "well qualified", "qualified" and "not qualified" lists, not too many years ago. That was the beginning of being able to put so many of this race, this sex, etc. into place. That was the beginning of lowering the standards instead of pulling applicants based purely on test scores. Federal consent decrees were a part of it, but it was a unique opportunity to cherry pick the connected.
Add the so called "merit" process to it and now the politician power brokers loaded the ranks with people who could never compete in a real world scenario. The result is what we have now. A generation of mediocre bosses, some outright stupid.
Young people whether educated or not, relatives of City employees or not, do not apply to enter a suicide mission on the Chicago Police Department.
Dumbing down the standards further we will have more stupid AND outright criminals. Could be that any alderman pressing for reducing the standards has another agenda, like padding the force with certain gang affiliated individuals or relatives, who just happen to be criminals.
Speaking of the women's marches, which are largely about health issues, are they fighting for the right to die on average 5 years earlier than men? Just wondering .
Here is Ald. Beale saying that Black folks can't do anything on their own without the rules and standards being lowered for them. Nice way to represent your "community".
All this concern about the color of a policemans skin is ridiculous. The politicians and bosses that think about this crap all the time are the true racists. On another note...what's the percentage of whites that work for the CTA? 1-10 maybe even 1-30? Very rare to see a white employee.
"I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the WHITE HOUSE" a quote from madonna at an anti-Trump rally. Should the FBI or will the FBI be paying her a visit shortly? I would sure hope so. Fuck these Hollywood communist. I love the fact that these communist are showing their true colors, as faithful red comrades and treasonist.
Counter solution --- Increase the standards.
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1. Residency
2. Energized Political Action Committee
3. Independent
There is a reason why Dean Angelo and his entire slate of incumbents were voted out of office in 2002, the first time in the history of the FOP that an entire slate of incumbents were swept from office, they lied to the members claiming they did not sign an agreement with the city to change our flat rate health insurance contribution to a contribution based on a percentage of our pay. After we voted down the contract Dean Angelo and Bill Nolans crew negotiated because it changed our flat rate contribution to a percentage based contribution creating a windfall for the city and ultimately costing us more money it went to arbitration. The arbitrator ruled that he could not rule on the percentage being attached to our pay check because the FOP (Dean Angelo and crew) signed a memo of understanding or temporary agreement during contract negotiations and the percentage would now be our new contribution for health care. That is Dean Angelos way of doing business, us police officers don't know what is best for us but he does. It amazed me that the FOP not only put this liar back in office but elected him president. Ask anyone who has ever worked with him and they will tell you he only looks out for himself and would sell us out in a heartbeat just like he did in 2002 and just like he did with the new ISR authored by the ACLU, just like he did with the new pension legislation that replaces the previous legislation that would have funded our pension at 90% by 2040 and now kicks the can down the road to 2065 and cost the taxpayers an additional 20 BILLOIN DOLLARS. THE LIST GOES ON AND ON AND HIS REPUTATION CLEARLY PROCEEDS HIM hopefully this time around the members will not ignore his reputation as well as his past harm done to the FOP members.
ya but Rahm wanted the Justice Dept to condemn the CPD as racist, under no definable standard whatsoever. Because that's what liberals do to appease the ignorant masses. That's what former Attorney General Eric Holder III did in Ferguson when, as the top law enforcement officer in the U.S., refused to stand for the rule of law, and sympathized with the violent masses due to the former Attorney General's disgust at being stopped at some point in his life by 2 policeman. You get what you ask for Rahm. Fuck every disgusting liberal in this great country.
Bring em in, then when the dope boys get robbed by the on duty thug coppers you can have members from opposing gangs dining battle with other gang members on other beats. Then when the line up is called in everyday they will have to indicate the coppers gang affiliation so not to send him to jobs in other gangs area. WILD WILD WEST, HERE IT COMES.
22Jan17 again rahm gets talked about and the out of control crime in Chicago:
http://video.foxnews.com/v/5292516863001/?#sp=show-clips
Come on Feds first 100 days for superman President Donald Trump, hope AG Jeff Sessions is girded for CPD has the back of pro-police "law and order" proper start at city hall 5th floor then simultaneously over at 5th floor county building, then over to 5th floor CPD headquarters drain the swamp, strangely the "5th floor" has all the remnants of the last failed 8 years God bless Trump and police everywhere as police are finally back to getting respect! Rahm and Eddie team tear up that pandering lying consent decree wasted millions for zero return typical!
Stop with the euphemism, say what you mean. You want black people to have a job they are not qualified to have. What could go wrong. Do you have so little faith in your community that you want to treat them like they need a help up. They should be able to meet the already low standards, if they can't meet those requirements, try harder next time. There is a reason why every democratic state is operating in the red, with Illinois the worst of them all.
Democrat/progressive method=go backwards
They can't be any worse than some of the winners we got on now. The college thing really hasn't produced any all-stars.
Look at what the dumocrats have done to Dr. Ben Carson, one of the best neurosurgeons in the world. Just because he is a Republican they demean him and consider him an uncle tom. The dumocrats don't want educated minorities. They are easier to fool when uneducated.
do they know that being a police officer is like a 20+ year prison sentence? All you hear is" I got 3 more years" or " I can't wait to leave." How can they sell a product that they tear down 24/7. Lower the standards? What could go wrong?
No lower standards than Lamon Reccord for Alderman 7th ward. Bahahaha!
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/bs-md-dawnyell-taylor-20170121-story.html
Lead Investigator in Freddy Gray...ARRESTED
The city has resorted to dry begging minorities to take the test. My son, who is Hispanic, signed up for the fire test. Yesterday they sent him an email asking him if he would be interested in taking the police exam. My neighbor who is white and also signed up for the fire test did NOT get an email asking him to take the police exam. How bout that BS
WTF
OT: you saw this, right?
http://hotair.com/archives/2017/01/21/the-white-house-web-site-for-law-enforcement-has-changed/
I think you need to look at some of the reasons why candidates have been rejected in the past. I would not be for letting people convicted of certain crimes come on the job, but people have been rejected for having some dings on their credit reports or for the psychological evaluation. The psych needs to be redone as they have been rejecting veterans and family members of cops. There might be something to what Beal is saying. I am not defending him, but I say take a closer look at how the screening is done.
"Relax" the standards. Nice euphemism for LOWER the standards.
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So "minorities" can't get on the job unless the hiring standards are lowered? Nice message. Only a liberal would think that's just. So in the future your going to lower the promotional standards too so the same people can get promoted right? Garbage in garbage out. Better start saving for your lawsuit payouts now. How insulting
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Anonymous Anonymous said...
If the standards are any lower then stop testing recruits in the academy. We are lucky they have a 10th grade reading level. They are currently accepting known gang members. maybe stop background checks and the polygraph? How low is it necessary to find minority applicants?
1/22/2017 12:12:00 AM
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Are you talking about the recruits or the instructors. The instructors are so dumb that you cannot expect excellence from the academy. The academy is nothing but a spot to hide people. The recruits get pushed on to patrol. Patrol has to deal with the training issues.
Beale' s always been a racist imbecile.
Another idiot hey rahm direct from executive orders by the new pro-police law and order president Trump:
Top options include:
Cut funding for sanctuary cities: Expect early action to punish the many cities and counties that call themselves sanctuaries for undocumented immigrants, meaning law-enforcement officials limit cooperation with federal immigration authorities.
Federal funding that might be targeted include Homeland Security grants to combat terrorism and Justice Department funding for community policing.
Such cuts would set up an immediate political brawl—and likely legal action. High-profile mayors in cities such as New York, Chicago and Los Angeles would be pitted against the new administration.
Ok mayor we are set to lose 1.5 Billion in funding we are broke you continue to put us in debt obeying the law is required don't think about make taxpayers pay ever higher taxes to shield criminals the new sheriff in town won big time!
CPD brass=Two steps back
Anyone know if WeeZee crashed another police car, that will be 4 this year!
Lower the standards even more...? I thought we were pretty low as it was. I only needed a G.E.D. when I got on. Any idiot can cheat his way through night classes at Truman college. May G-D help us all...
Anthony Beale is upset because he failed the psychological exam prior to becoming an alderman . That bothers him to this day . I wonder if his name will be on the Jackson divorce case ? 🤡
Pandering to the lowest common denominator has never been a good idea. We ought to tell the applicants:
* THIS is the bar you have to get over to apply. It involves the following:
- A certain level of education
- A background free and clear of certain crimes (if you were 18 and got arrested in college for a loud music complaint - that's not a problem. Being a juvy or over 18 and robbing a liquor store - yeah, that's a problem).
- No illegal drug use or addictions to "legal" drugs.
- No addictions to alcohol.
- No credit issues.
- No tax or fine issues.
- Valid driver's license
- No mental health issues.
- No vision, hearing, or other disabilities.
- No gang affiliations, or tattoos.
- No religious restrictions that prohibit you from doing the job when required 24x7x365.25 or wearing the uniform.
- Be an honest and ethical person - pass the psych tests.
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If you don't meet the requirements - go away. Don't apply until you remedy the issues. If you have a criminal background that excludes you, don't apply - we're not hiring you. Don't ask. Don't whine. Don't stamp your feet and play the race card. We don't care. We have standards you can't meet - so look in the mirror and blame yourself.
And of all the things the State mandates School Districts to teach - they ought to include:
"Careers you can't have if you fuck up: Policeman, Fireman, Paramedic, Dr., Nurse, Orderly, Coroner, Undertaker, Banker, Security Guard, Correctional Officer, Probation Officer, and more jobs that pay money you can support yourself and your family with."
Sitting here watch judge Jean Pirro on Fox world news again she said "we have to get rid of rahm" sickening what he has done here with all the crime a national embarrassment come on Trump drain the swamp!
That's what this police department needs are relaxed hiring practices. But we already have less then par people on this job let's bring on more
Rahm is doing the work of two men, Laurel and Hardy.
Anonymous said...
Dropping the residency requirement for police should be number one goal for this contract. They don't like white people, give them an out?
1/22/2017 11:37:00 AM
Oh no you don't blue collar-city worker Y/T!
You're gonna stay your ass here and pay back
even more of your salary to pay for the new
"equality" WE'RE going to enjoy!
You think Rahm is gonna let you
indentured servants escape and take
your treasure with you?
Hell no!
not after he burned so much political capital
separating you from the public goodwill.
He's gonna wring every spare nickel from you
and give it to the chronic non-contributors
and build playgrounds for out-of-town tourists
and the Gold Coast/North Shore corporate titan,
phony charity fundraiser and cocktail party smart set...
You know... The nasty-assed m/fers who have co-signed
on Rahm's "Why the fuck do Cops have to be 40% of the
city budget when WE can have that money?"
Police Like You Have No Friends.
This is the natural outcome that happens when politicians dumb down a population in order to control them. It is great for a time, because the dumb are easily led like sheep to slaughter. But eventually it always happens, that population becomes too dumbed down to function themselves. They become so wildly ignorant of the basics that they become totally useless for anything besides a vote or a body as part of a rent a mob.
I want to not care about skin color when I need cops service. I want them to be able to READ and SPEAK and understand basic common sense. I want cops to know their role in society, to know their job requirements, know that defending our rights is their number one job. Of course, this means they have to know what rights are, and which ones we have alongside what authorities the policing power wields. I want them to know the limits of both. And on top of it all, I want cops to know the code, what of it is right and proper and what of it is bovine excrement.
If anything, I want the requirements to be HIGHER and made MORE burdensome. I want one cop to know that the cop next to him KNOWS the same things they themselves do because theri lives are on the line day in and day out. The LAST thing I want is one idiot cop getting a good cop KILLED because they had their test requirements lowered for them to be able to get in, ya know, because their skin is brown. Good God man, please stop this insanity!
God, for fucks sake, please make 55 come fast........
Just drop the College requirement for new hires. Make the college requirement for promotion. A lot of good people have to work after high school and cannother afford college
Lots of smart black and Hispanic officers on this job. They did not need any help to get on this job, I wonder how they feel about all this talk of lowering standards to get on this job. Their own political hacks do not have any confidence in their communities.
More great ideas President Trump another company we will be making televisions in USA again 30,000-50,000 more jobs here, then watching the judge Jeanie program on Fox News listening to her talk about Chicago crime and how rahm must go, it makes the heart happy, with all the negative press from the real media including the great SCC where much news is sought making Chicago great again as soon as the doj gets here and stops the political pandering corruption and restoring law and order is job #1! Hello rahm! Goodbye rahm!
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The standards have been lowered already. After all the cheating and merit promotions and the sad part everyone knows about it and it continues.
Military lowered standards a long time ago. And we have seen the results.
1 of 50 dumb asses! Now pull my finger...
Supposedly this is the week that City of Chicago has found numerous cops divorced but never notified the City. The City continued to pay for the spouses insurance. This should be a good one. Cops, Firemen, Streets and Sans, etc WTF were you all thinking ?
Marty you should have run for president and then debate Dean. Why are you running with Graham? He'll throw you under a bus in a new York second. The only way you could have served on the board was a trustee or was that too low for you?
Can YOU defend Donahues 209k salary?
Why didn't Dougherty sign the letter?
Can you support Dougherty's position that Obama care was a good option for retirees?
How do you feel about Donahue's endorsement for Rahm?
Can you defend Donahue and Dougherty endorsement of Obama?
Which standard the "no felony " No weed smoking" no domestic batteries " the Illinois state standards hmm which ones.
Hey SCC did you hear there was a purge at personnel recently. Apparently whoever is the double merit person in charge dumped a bunch of people because they were rejecting too many applicants. It seams the standards that have been set like to much credit card debit among others things were too much. They were rejecting too many minority's and got dumped.
Will someone please tell Commander KJ 11th District that he is the biggest jag off in the city's history of commanders. This dude just don't get it. Stop asking for stupid shit of your officers because you will just keep getting stupid prizes.
Bozo
I thought that minorities dont need to have standards lowered. Theyre just as qualified as non minorities. What a crock of shit
can the standards for aldermen get any lower?
Put them at COPA they need diversity and street smarts!
so many city jobs and Aldermen think the police department needs to hire beat offs.
Hire who you want i will sit back and watch as drugs disappear and guns turn up missing. I don't control merit selection so i can care less who you hire.
working solo is the BOMB
Hire the minorities that can make the grade. I don't want to be paying high property taxes to hire idiots. No passes for the connected people either, don't care what color they are.
Excellence through diversity, even if it means hiring someone who cannot print their name nor pass a criminal background check.
The Dumbing Down: Lower the Standards to Meet the Men
http://weaponsman.com/?p=36347
Just drop the College requirement for new hires. Make the college requirement for promotion.
Drop it completely. It hasn't worked too well so far, especially with the promotions.
Hey, 1/22/2017 02:31:00 PM you can list a bunch of negatives but who are you supporting? He is through as far as I'm concerned! Let's start using positives about your candidate's list of accomplishments or good ideas for the future! I get tired of everyone throwing mud but no one stepping up and stating their case to be elected! Seems they all just want that "spot"!
It will be same bullshit, different day...
August 27, 2014
In a massive, detailed 2000 study of the effect of court-ordered affirmative action plans on police departments, economist John Lott found that the more minorities on a police force, the higher the rates of murder, manslaughter, violent crime, robbery and aggravated assault will be. Violent crime increased by a minimum of 3.3 percent every year after affirmative action policies went into effect -- and the spike in crime was highest in black neighborhoods.
The problem was not with black cops, Lott's study showed, but rather with the lowering of standards across the board, resulting in less-qualified officers of every race. To get more of MSNBC's "voices of oppression" on police forces, requirements are reduced for all recruits. (Just as quality declined at MSNBC when "voices of oppression" had to be added to their lineup.)
We end up with cops who are criminals, the Rampart scandal of the 1990s and great movies like "Training Day."
About a decade into a federal consent decree requiring the Los Angeles Police Department to hire more minority officers, the LAPD'S Rampart division was employing gang members in uniforms.
Training officer Jim Peasha told investigative reporter Jan Golab that he left his unit because of the preposterous recruits being sent to him as a result of affirmative action. "I had some fantastic minority recruits," Peasha said. "One black kid was the best I ever had." But he also had "one guy who I knew was on drugs and I couldn't get him out. He wound up getting caught working as a guard at a rock (cocaine) house. An off-duty cop!"
It was almost as if the LAPD was turning into the public school system.
By the time of the Rampart scandal, two dozen black police officers in Los Angeles were suspected of gang activity. Most were forced out. Four officers were proved to have been engaging in criminal acts -- including a bank robbery and an attempted murder. All were black and Hispanic. (Let's call them "officers of oppression.")
As a top official with the LAPD told Golab, "This is not an LAPD problem; this is a black problem."
It was so obvious that affirmative action had led to the Rampart scandal that a "Blue Ribbon" commission specifically denied it. Twice. Using the exact same words. It was the equivalent of calling a press conference to announce that you're not gay.
This is the irrelevancy printed twice in the commission's report:
"Personnel Department experts found no instance where a candidate failed to meet the LAPD's background or psychological standards. Moreover, the experts found no meaningful difference in the application of background and psychological standards to candidates of varying race or ethnicity."
Wait -- no applicants failed? That's precisely the point! Everyone gets an "A," every applicant becomes a police officer.
And no one imagined that only the minority officers would be less qualified. As Lott's study showed, once standards are lowered to ensure "diversity," standards are lowered for all recruits, resulting in a rainbow coalition of incompetence.
This is exactly how Democrats wrecked the economy with the subprime mortgage crisis. Then-Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, Andrew Cuomo, Sen. Chris Dodd and Rep. Barney Frank bragged about how they were helping minorities get mortgages by forcing banks to adopt ridiculously low lending standards.
But once traditional measures of credit-worthiness were jettisoned, they were jettisoned for everyone. You will notice that the housing market crash was concentrated not in black neighborhoods, but in house-flipping hot spots.
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2014-08-27.html
Get rid of College? You guys gotta be nuts
Have you read any reports by our current crop of College kids, and you want HS education only kids ?!!
Even the morons go to school and 60 credit hrs these days.
College has been a requirement for the CPD since 1997. That's 20 yrs already folks.
There is no f-Ing way we should revert to HS with how stupid people with 60hrs from a CC already are.
Politicians have to keep racism alive. It's an essential part of their purpose. If they couldn't talk about racism and keep it alive they would have nothing to do because everything according to politicians stems from racism.
Anonymous said...
I don't know, so I'll ask. Do Police Officers in Illinois have to meet a minimum standard set by the state? Don't know how its done there, but in some states Police Officers, (Sheriffs, Deputy Sheriffs, State Police, Highway Police, etc.) have to be certified by the state. Local authorities cannot "lower" standards even if they wanted to.
J.J.
1/22/2017 09:56:00 AM
You can if your requirements are higher than the state mandates. Prime example, college is not required by the state. Who in the world is going to college to work in Po-dunk County Sheriff's Office as the only car on the road during their shift?...some but not most. Difference here is you can have higher criteria b/c you have a larger candidate pool. The shame is you have the stronger candidate pool and still want to weaken it.
Anonymous said...
Military lowered standards a long time ago. And we have seen the results.
1/22/2017 09:22:00 PM
You're supposed to turn the page and keep reading...they lowered standards to up the numbers for Iraq and Afghanistan. Then when drawdown time came they were throwing people out left and right, then switched the standards back. They did it for tattoos, they did it for criminal histories and they assisted people in either finishing their GED/high school diploma and weight loss programs so they could serve.
They also lowered standards and took every swinging d*ck in Vietnam. Everyone talks about reinstituting the draft for thugs and gang members etc. If it worked so well back then they probably would be doing it now. Newsflash: it didn't work so well.
Hows this for another pathetic pandering idea for another failed American city:
Philly teachers plan Black Lives Matter week — not all are happy
http://www.philly.com/philly/education/20170122_Phila__teachers_plan_Black_Lives_Matter_week_-_not_all_are_happy.html
Destroying the young families great job, another shithole just like rahms Chicago sinking quickly! How many shot over 50? How many dead6-10 over 3 decent days great job mayor great job Eddie, Eddie you and rahm along with the entire gold star cowards need to resign, stick toni and her crw in the sidecar call a news conference don't be afraid do it public ally because you know when the new conservative law and order AG Jeff sessions is confirmed and comes here you will not have to hide if you resign all of you!
Lieutenant Wu in the 20th district has been pressuring his midnight police officers to bring in activity, a quota, which is illegal.
His threats are to break up partners and make officers' lives miserable. He is pulling officers aside privately and telling them how many blue cards he wants. That is a quota. He is telling the officers they won't be able to work CHA or CTA if they, "don't bring in enough numbers." He is threatening to ship officers out to other districts for 3 months if they don't bring in enough activity.
Quotas are illegal. Wu, it is only a matter of time until someone records you doing this and sends the recordings out to the media. Some media outlets will care. Someone will make it their mission to make sure the word gets out about your threats.
Lt. Wu, you should be ashamed of yourself given you know the hostile climate towards officers because of the ACLU and the new states attorney, Kim Foxx.
FYI: CPD entry exam application expires Jan 31st.
Here's the link for family and friends - http://tinyurl.com/2017-cpd-police-entry-exam
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Military lowered standards a long time ago. And we have seen the results.
1/22/2017 09:22:00 PM
You're supposed to turn the page and keep reading...they lowered standards to up the numbers for Iraq and Afghanistan. Then when drawdown time came they were throwing people out left and right, then switched the standards back. They did it for tattoos, they did it for criminal histories and they assisted people in either finishing their GED/high school diploma and weight loss programs so they could serve.
They also lowered standards and took every swinging d*ck in Vietnam. Everyone talks about reinstituting the draft for thugs and gang members etc. If it worked so well back then they probably would be doing it now. Newsflash: it didn't work so well.
1/23/2017 01:29:00 PM
The weight requirement doesn't take proper height consideration or muscle weight I'm 6ft5in 340lbs and can pass a POWER test yet I'm considered morbidly Obese.
Beale has a room temperature IQ.
What a complete tool.
Anonymous said...
Get rid of College? You guys gotta be nuts
Have you read any reports by our current crop of College kids, and you want HS education only kids ?!!
Even the morons go to school and 60 credit hrs these days.
College has been a requirement for the CPD since 1997. That's 20 yrs already folks.
There is no f-Ing way we should revert to HS with how stupid people with 60hrs from a CC already are.
1/23/2017 09:02:00 AM
I'm a moron because I was forced to work after high school to support my family shame on you. You college pussy officers can't handle these criminals.
So let's hire people that are deep in debt and have horrible credit...... better yet lets put them directly into the narcotics unit .....what could possibly go wrong? Huh Beale?
Hey SCC the Department started a recruitment program for the new test. They decided to reach out to the registered organizations. But instead of reaching out to all the organizations they only reached out to very few. Like NOBLE and LAPA. So instead of asking the few dozen registered organizations to help they only ask 3 or 4. So fat Eddies we're all in this together is a bunch of BS.
Seriously some of you want to get rid of college? A college class in writing would be a benefit from the reports that some coppers turn in. This profession is over though.
We sat under a street sign at 63rd & Pulaski. The PPO was filling out a case report and asked how many O's in Pulaski. I said 2
Instead of 40 being the maximum age limit make it 43. You'll get more maturity in the the ranks. New copper can still contribute 20 years to the pension. Under no circumstances eliminate the college,physical fitness,residency or moral/background requirements. Unless you want to be known as the most corrupt, poorly educated, and demoralized Police Department in America. A city policed by a bunch of Carpet Baggers who high tail it out of the city once their shift is done, coming to the city to play police, there are enough, Dogs, "Stay Fetal" cowards as it is. Effective policing in this city requires that you have some skin in the game. When you consider that under the current ASA a person who had committed grand theft would be eligible to be a PPO.(9 charges of 1000 dollar worth of theft would only get you a misdemeanor charge and the tenth a felony under her "discretion "of course.)
Yes, I called every one that has made "Stay "Fetal" their Mantra a coward. There was a time that you all swore an oath to serve and protect and when you took a knee because 4/5 (the tutu) pissed on your parade you became a coward and your word is worth shit. Please save the "but everyone is getting stripped body camera song and dance". No one has been stripped coming out of a church pew. Lying, cheating, stealing, and questionable acts of violence have always been against department rules. Also, save your responses they are not necessary, I know, and God knows that you are softer than puppy shit.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
We sat under a street sign at 63rd & Pulaski. The PPO was filling out a case report and asked how many O's in Pulaski. I said 2
1/23/2017 10:29:00 PM
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I'll one-up ya
I was sitting in court one day and a recruit was in front of me apparently with his FTO
he point to his time due slip and asked "you can get your birfday off?"
I assume he was pointing to "BFD"
As a former police officer, now retired, and now an investigator who frequently gets involved in criminal cases, I can attest to my observations only. I have read CPD reports and heard many officers testify in court. Most are pretty good, but there are a few that not only embarrass themselves, they embarrass the department and jeopardize the case. Very poorly written reports and lousy testimony. Some of this should be the subject of a training video.
I taught at the community college level and at the university level for 10 years. I have seen many students who came from Chicago Public Schools. Most were totally unprepared for college and lacked even the basics in spelling, writing and composition. Their understanding of history, civics and geography was at the 3rd grade level What standards are you going to lower?
Anonymous said...
Supposedly this is the week that City of Chicago has found numerous cops divorced but never notified the City. The City continued to pay for the spouses insurance. This should be a good one. Cops, Firemen, Streets and Sans, etc WTF were you all thinking ?
1/22/2017 09:57:00 PM
Ever think that they DID notify the City and the geniuses never removed them from the insurance plans?
Stop believing the Trib and the Times.
pretty racist to hirer cop by the color of skin.
Maybe beale wants them lowered so he can apply. Most of our opponents are rejected wannabees..
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