Monday, February 20, 2017

How BS was ABC Report?

  • In the investigation, the I-Team uncovered thousands of domestic violence complaints against Chicago police officers.

    In a database obtained through a the Freedom of Information Act request, the I-Team found 5,280 domestic violence complaints filed against Chicago police officers since the year 2000. That's more than 340 complaints filed every year and on average, nearly one per day.
And how many per day does CPD respond to?
  • Chicago police respond to nearly 500 domestic related calls a day, according to the latest department data; calls for help at home from across the city.
So let's break out the slide rule - 500 per day, 365 days in a year....182,500 in a non-Leap Year. So 340 CPD domestics per year versus 182,500 citizen domestics per year is about 0.19% of the total...not even a full percentage. That's positively law abiding. Back to the numbers:
  • ...the I-Team found 5,280 domestic violence complaints filed against Chicago police officers since the year 2000.
Golly, that's fully half the Department! Unless there are duplicates. Guess what? There are. Hundreds. Many hundreds. Because once you're in a bad relationship, it follows you many times. One of you is stuck in a bad behavioral spiral, one of you is calling the police semi-regularly (or the neighbors are) and CR's are pretty much automatically generated, even if neither party wants to pursue it - hence the many closed investigations. What percentage of the 5,280 are those?

And we ran our names through the Invisible Institute database, and guess what? We're named in a series of "Domestic incidents." You know why? Because we responded to Domestics, someone wasn't happy and complained to IPRA, and now we have "Not Sustained" domestic beefs on our publicly accessible disciplinary history, even though we've never laid a hand on our spouse, roommate, significant other, etc. How many of those supposed 5,280 are those?

The Department says the following:
  • The Chicago Police Department takes any allegation against a police officer seriously, especially in cases of domestic violence. While a complaint or allegation against an officer is not an inherent implication of guilt, all domestic complaints against an officer are fully investigated by IPRA and officers are held accountable in cases of substantiated criminal or administrative misconduct.
Chuckles and his iTeam might want to review that underlined portion of the statement. An allegation is not indicative of guilt or a cover-up. Allegations need proof. Proof requires acceptable admissible testimony under oath according to the Rule of Law duly passed by the Legislature. It's a pretty basic concept for any grade-schooler taking a Constitution test. Not so much for a media in thrall to a midget mayor demanding "bad police" stories to deflect attention from three dead kids. Plus, as we just showed, twisting numbers until they get you the result you want just makes you look like hacks.....or more like hacks than you already are.

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75 Comments:

Anonymous 29 and a day said...

Your math is skewed. There's 12000 police officers and 3.500,000 citizens. Now I bet the incidence of domestic violence of police vs citizens ratio is different


2/20/2017 12:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Obviously the Department is covering up domestic violence committed by its members, as the Department covers up the physical abuse of citizens by its members. The connection is so blatant that any reporter can draw the inference.

Just another reporter with an axe to grind against police, while using only have the facts to form its conclusion.

Reading the article one sees how the reporter leaps to this conclusion.

And who helps the reporter jump the shark? None other than the DOJ and DV advocates, both lacking all the facts.

2/20/2017 12:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why don't they report about all the shootings and what's the Mayor doing about that?? Crime is way up in every area!

2/20/2017 12:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Frosts my cookies that these lowlifes are actually looking to these "records" to try and throw dirt on the Police. Thanks for breaking it down and doung the math. These assaults on police are reaching new lows. Time has come for the police to stop giving courtesy to these fools.

2/20/2017 12:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The supposed 5280 number (number of feet in a mile) makes me highly suspicious that the entire article is a slanderous hoax, much like the UVA rape hoax committed by Rolling Stone magazine. Or the bullshit committed by those Northwestern assholes that you do a great job of keeping in the public eye. These liberal assholes are always fabricating slanderous stories to attract attention and demonize their opponents.

2/20/2017 01:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is exactly the Fake News President Trumps talks about. This is the media making up the news.

2/20/2017 01:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No really.
Just pack up and leave.

Head south young man, head south.

Better clime, better job, better neighbors, etc, etc, etc.

No sense in trying to make sense of non-sense.

Lived there, did that. Go.

2/20/2017 01:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's funny. Every contract year, it's time to lift every rock and sift through the bullshit..

2/20/2017 01:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC says...

"In a database obtained through a the Freedom of Information Act request, the I-Team found 5,280 domestic violence complaints filed against Chicago police officers since the year 2000. That's more than 340 complaints filed every year and on average, nearly one per day."

~Snip!~

"Chicago police respond to nearly 500 domestic related calls a day...

...500 per day, 365 days in a year....182,500 in a non-Leap Year. So 340 CPD domestics per year versus 182,500 citizen domestics per year is about 0.19% of the total...not even a full percentage. That's positively law abiding..."


Oh Shit...

Does this mean that Team Rahm Emanuel somehow didn't "win"
the current 8, 24, 48, 72 hour news cycle against
Chicago Policemen?

Even with the help of Chuck
"I'm A Mayoral Butt-Slut" Goudie?

Heh...

Rahm must be abso-fucking-lutely BESIDE
HIMSELF over HIS constituents having climbed
over the back of the seat and yanking on
the wheel of his political vehicle.

>Political vehicle crashed hard against
a wall and burning like a m/fer with
screams emanating from inside<

"Yeah squad... A 99B and a full
float with a wrap to the M.E."

It seems Rahm Emanuel is in the
beginning phase of knowing FEAR
for the first time in his mean,
evil, reptilian life.

Especially after his last
foray into D.C. fell flat.

We imagine it was all kinds o' funny
when Rahm showed up at the People's House
at 1600 Pennsylvania trying to peddle
his bullshit to Team POTUS and the
new gatekeeper, USAG Sessions...

It's as if Rahm was on the business end
of a good old fashioned "Grip n' Grin."

It's a Chicago thing, really...

Large, strong, clean-cut but VERY
unfriendly looking fella or three running
intercept at the front door.

"How ya doin'?"

>A FIIIRRRMMM handshake and a size 12
planted solidly on the offending foot-in-the-door
as the other hand gives a thought provoking tug
on the "pull here to tighten" end of the necktie<

"We ain't buyin' what yer sellin' so go away please.
Thank You."

>Tug!<






2/20/2017 02:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These soulless assholes are worse than mere hacks, they are mercenaries.
Whores, who have traded their dignity for a paycheck. In revolutionary times such people pay dearly.

2/20/2017 02:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bravo SCC, your numbers don't lie...

2/20/2017 04:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Very fake news"

2/20/2017 04:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes! When put in CONTEXT it's apparent these so-called domestic complaints are B/S.

2/20/2017 05:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

iteam=fake news

2/20/2017 05:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT I just want to inform officers out there that there is an individual running for FOP Recording Secretary by the name of John Cantanzara, he refers to retirees as "old fucks" and they should not be allowed to vote in the FOP elections. Well Officer Cantanzara I'm currently on the job and may in fact agree that retirees rights should be limited when it comes to FOP elections, but to degrade retirees who served this city and gave years of their lives up just like we current members are now doing is a disgrace. I find it very sad that someone running for a position on our union board cannot treat retirees with respect. Need I remind you Officer Cantanzara you too will be a retiree one day and will have earned the respect that should be given to all retirees, I for one will never refer to any retiree in a degrading way and hope all current officers will give them the respect they deserve. To all officers and retirees out there I wish you good health and stay safe.

2/20/2017 06:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with you SCC, but isn't the 185,000 number for the entire city population? CPD percentage would be based on 9,000 population (or however many sworn p.o.'s) I would think. But I'm no math wiz, and I totally agree it's a ridiculous story.

2/20/2017 06:28:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

I don't think that the I-Team owns a slide rule.

2/20/2017 06:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look, we all know what most news media stands are about. Gowdy is not an objective person. Rather he is the kind of negative person who wants to fan the flames and then watch them burn for ratings. This story is no different. He needs to find out who killed their producer in Peru or wherever it was rather than this slanted story. Move forward everyone. We don't need to dwell on this. If you saw Trump's rally in Florida on Saturday, you have to be invigorated about his comments supporting law enforcement, the law and the response from the crowd. The reality is Chuck Gowdy is a zero and everyone know's it.

2/20/2017 06:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fake news!

2/20/2017 06:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So basically, if someone beefed on a copper on a domestic call, these numbers are included as a "domestic incident" according to Chuckles numbers. Obvious bullshit, no investigative reporting. The whole I-Team should be ashamed at the lack of investigation on this one. But when Rahm needs to take the heat off himself, Rahm can always count on the I-Team to jump on the "bad police" band wagon and drum up some fake outrage.

2/20/2017 06:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is it possible to add a link to the Conservative Treehouse on this blog. It is a very well done informational site.

It keeps readers well informed about the crooks in the media as well as President Trump's efforts in draining the political swamp.

2/20/2017 07:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Last night the Local news had the first interview with Anita Alvarez, and she called herself a scapegoat. She called the verdict in Cmdr. Evans case: "Horrific", and that is an exact quote of the word she chose to describe Evans being found innocent. She also boasted having prosecuted more cops than anyone before her. However, two key points, which leads me to believe she does not want Mendoza to eclipse her as the Chief Token Josefina in Da Machine: 1. She would not give up Rahm. Made no mention of Why it took so long to release the McDonald tape. 2. She made no mention of when she saw, or became aware of the McDonald tape.Then on another news front, Det. Chief Fr. Faker is talking about how the Police Contract needs input from the Community and certain givens in the Contract must be changed. Rahm will frequently use tactics from his Glory Days in the 90's at the Clinton White House. One of those tactics was to flood the Media with Negative Stories about an opponent. Something is going on here, because suddenly the Local News I Teams are coming up with very Negative Police stories, local and otherwise. Coincidence, or concerted effort to undermine FOP elections and future negotiations. Whichever the case, the Media is throwing a lot of anti-police stuff into the water. Be especially careful, and remember: The Media and Rahm are looking for a New Poster Boy/Girl to make cops look bad. Don't be that person. Baby"G"

2/20/2017 08:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey chuck, ur a jerk off.

2/20/2017 08:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

F A K E N E W S !!!!! Our President got it right.

2/20/2017 08:32:00 AM  
Blogger SCC said...

29 and a day said...

Your math is skewed. There's 12000 police officers and 3.500,000 citizens. Now I bet the incidence of domestic violence of police vs citizens ratio is different

=========

Again, without knowing how many duplicates are there, ALL of the numbers are bullshit (which was our point). We've been to the same address three times a tour some nights - dozens of times a year in some cases.

Our point was that the iTeam numbers are just political fodder to smear the police. The ratio of police v citizens PER CAPITA isn't too far different according to the published research, but obviously, the media had their agenda.

2/20/2017 09:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a retired Sergeant who worked in a large district I can tell you that this report is suspected. We had habitual domestic complainers in the district. There was one in particular that I used to respond to where the husband worked in a very fast district and would work overtime with an arrest etc. Every time this officer came home late from work his wife would call and make a complaint alleging misconduct. I tried several times for this couple to get help but both would end up refusing help. There were others who were fueled by alcohol would call and make a complaint almost every weekend. The case that stands out to me to this day was we were called to a banquet hall because the wife got into an argument with her husband because she thought he was flirting with one of the waitress severing the table dinner. I could go on and on but like I said, this exposé is supsected

2/20/2017 09:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Call me Mr. Lips


While I posted about ABC 7 very recently, I feel compelled to opine on what has become a media circus.

To respond to all of ABC 7's treatises would take up too much room and time. I would like to address the most supercilious ones, though. But before I continue, allow me to explain that by comparing today to even ten years ago and projecting the course we're on, I'd say we're in for an even more muddleheaded, iconoclastic, and choleric society, all thanks to ABC 7's positions. The cast-off ideas of debunked philosophy on which ABC 7 has based most of its despicable, gin-swilling dissertations do tell us one thing. They tell us that ABC 7 maintains that either it and its cringers should ultimately decide what opinions are acceptable or unacceptable or that its cabal is a colony of heaven called to obey God by barring people from partaking in activities that cannot be monitored and controlled. ABC 7 denies any other possibility. I oppose ABC 7's perceptions because they are abusive. I oppose them because they are blathering. And I oppose them because they will slow scientific progress sooner than you think.

If you've never seen ABC 7 fill the air with recrimination and rancor, you're either incredibly unobservant or are concealing the truth from yourself. A long time ago I wrote that “ABC 7 has been violating the public trust by using both overt and covert deceptions to violate strongly held principles regarding deferral of current satisfaction for long-term gains”. Today I might add that I do not appreciate being labeled. No one does. Nevertheless, ABC 7 claims that the betterment of society depends upon its turning a deaf ear to need and suffering. I have my told-you-so's primed and ready to go as soon as people start noticing that by letting ABC 7 do something as testy as that, we are forgetting that it will probably respond to this letter just like it responds to all criticism. It will put me down as “pathological” or “insecure”. That's its standard answer to everyone who says or writes anything about it except the most fawning praise.

That all said, Goudie can kiss my pasty ass.

2/20/2017 09:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fake News!!!!!!!

2/20/2017 09:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have worked a beat car for 12 years and response to thousands of domestic calls. I have never had to deal with A police related domestic. Dealt with fireman domestics and sheriff domestics never CPD and can't even remember any of my fellow co-workers having responded to one. #FAKENUMBERS.

2/20/2017 09:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ahem, the math is skewed?

Census data indicate 2.7 mm inhabitants as of 2015.
23% are less than 18 yrs old and 10% are over age 65. Some of the geezers and youngsters could generate Domestics, so let's estimate that 30% of the 2.7 million could not: that leaves 70%, or 1.9 million. Although some women cause them, let's say that about half the population could even conceivably create the need for a Domestic call. That leaves about 950,000 candidates. They caused 182,000 calls, for a 19% probability in a given year.

All 12,500 cops reportedly (and that is Reportedly, with all the skepticism SCC rightly notes re crappy book-keeping, multiple calls, etc) generated 340 calls. That amounts to 2.7% probability per year per cop. That is 14%, or 1/7th, the rate of the candidate population policed by these folks, where our police have to go home after seeing and dealing with all the crap we civilians hope we never have to witness, much less experience.

And if you really think all the women in Chicago between 18-65 yrs should be candidates then you can drop the overall rate in half, to about 9.5% -- still about 3.5 times as likely as a member of the police force.

Finally, one has to wonder if our friends at ABC have ever asked themselves, would the rate of spousal abuse by cop would go up, or go down, if the inhabitants and leadership and media of the city were better behaved and more supportive of our police?

2/20/2017 10:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Chuckie and the rest of the media focused on Swan Lake/alderpersons/police brass and their antics more, they might just actually do their job.

--No Cop Here

2/20/2017 10:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

20 and out. I'll believe we'll all get more respect gathering shopping carts at Home Depot.

2/20/2017 10:42:00 AM  
Blogger trunner said...

"Your math is skewed. There's 12000 police officers and 3.500,000 citizens"
(btw, that should be 3,500,000 not 3.500,000 which would really skew the results)

Ok then, divide 3,500,000 by 12,000. That gets you 292, if you round up. 292 times as many "citizens" as police officers.

Now according to the ABC report, there are 340 domestic violence complaints filed against Chicago police officers on average each year. That's 340/365 per day.

Let's project that rate to the general population: 292 x 340/365 = 272

But the actual number filed per day against the general population is nearly 500, which is 84% higher. So all the ABC report demonstrates is that domestic violence is 84% higher in the general population than it is in the CPD population.

And given that the ABC report arguably overstates the count of domestic violence complaints filed against Chicago police officers, that disparity is likely even higher.

Q.E.D.

2/20/2017 10:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All Chicago Media outlets are Fake News...(in Trump voice)

2/20/2017 11:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Im not aware of too many people who pay attention to the main stream media anymore, besides the useful idiots who participate in nonsense protests. They've completely lost all credibility.

2/20/2017 11:09:00 AM  
Blogger Declan Kell said...

Anonymous 29 and a day said...
Your math is skewed. There's 12000 police officers and 3.500,000 citizens. Now I bet the incidence of domestic violence of police vs citizens ratio is different


so when you take the 340 per year for police and the 12000 officers you get a result of 0.0283%

When you take 182500 for the 3.5 million citizens you get 0.0521% so I guess the numbers did not skew negatively towards police like you thought.

2/20/2017 11:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While P. trahanas gets to keep her job & get promoted again..

2/20/2017 11:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

More fake news to fit the "we hates the polizze" agenda! rahm and his minions feed this garbage and lies to keep the heat off of his pathetic style. Why are they not questioning the millions in city property taxpayers rebate money he gave away freely for lawyers to keep the criminal invaders here! the bloodshed continues and rahm feeds it giving our cash directly into that fiery furnace! Thank rahm as we are set to lose a total of 1.5 Billion due to your idiocy breaking federal alws, who is making that deficit up rahm? You? the 50? Crazy toni? tommy "puppy dog dart?"

Then as usual this headline again and again President trump is correct:

On Air

'AGAIN AND AGAIN'
Swedish cop's viral Facebook rant backs Trump on crime wave

Refugees
Trump may have been unclear, but Sweden experiencing a migrant crime wave

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/20/trump-may-have-been-unclear-but-sweden-experiencing-migrant-crime-wave.html

Yes and the mayor with bruce in the sidecar cowering are in the same agreement ruining this city/state/county is job#1! All about the election more power as they shit all over the taxpayers! Today we have more bullshit marches that strain police resources and they have no permits why not break the law as we watch rahm breaking laws everyday!

2/20/2017 11:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please , document every domestic battery , domestic assault by completing a case report they do not have to want a report or arrest . It is our responsibility to report the crime , any injury request an E.T. No big deal when we respond if they decline a quick no service report. Also offer medical attention document everything. Show the public the violence we deal with everyday
Please no 1-P request an RD number

2/20/2017 11:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Alderman doing her part http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/dont-miss/236871553-story

Carrie Austin exporting Chicago values

CHICAGO (SUN TIMES MEDIA WIRE) - Ald. Carrie Austin’s grandson Kenneth Austin has been taken into custody on murder charges in Chicago in connection with a fatal shooting in Louisville, Kentucky, last month.

The Chicago Sun-Times confirmed with Chicago Police that Kenneth Austin, 28, was taken into custody on Feb. 8 on the South Side based on an out-of-state warrant from Louisville. Police could not provide information on the charges for which the warrant was issued.
A spokesman for the alderman, one of Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s most powerful City Council allies, confirmed Kenneth Austin is Carrie Austin’s grandson, but had no further comment on Monday; Carrie Austin will issue a statement on the matter on Tuesday, the spokesman said.

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Kenneth Austin has been indicted on charges of first-degree murder, robbery, tampering with evidence and possession of a handgun by a felon in connection to the fatal shooting on a 25-year-old man during a robbery on Jan. 30 in Louisville, according to Jefferson County Assistant Commonwealth’s Attorney Jeffrey Cooke.

Kenneth Austin is being held at the Cook County Jail, the Cook County sheriff’s office confirmed Sunday.

He is the son of Kenny Austin; his father, the son of the alderman, resigned from a $72,384-a-year city laborer’s job in 2015 after an internal investigation concluded he crashed a city vehicle while driving on a suspended license in 2012, then had a co-worker cover for him to avoid taking a mandatory drug test.

2/20/2017 11:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The MSM reports their "findings" and manufactures "outrage". Then the truth comes out and not only are their figures skewed, their lack of investigation and their liberal slant is on display for everyone to see.

Then "reporters and journalists" across America cry in their beer "Why don't they believe us anymore?".

Stay safe Officers. Intelligent people are double checking everything MSM report as "fact".

J.J.

2/20/2017 12:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They should focus on corruption in tsa 11 people not screening metal detectors going off yes we are safe:

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/tsa-jfk-passengers-bypass-security-checkpoint-article-1.2977418

2/20/2017 01:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your math is skewed. There's 12000 police officers and 3.500,000 citizens. Now I bet the incidence of domestic violence of police vs citizens ratio is different



Chicago's population is about 2.7 million.

2/20/2017 01:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember the lib story years ago claiming that there was more domestic abuse on super bowl Sunday that any other day of the year by a wide margin. Another msm lie.

2/20/2017 01:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Today on channel 9 midday, TWICE, they reported that the swat incident in little village did not involve a Chicago Police Officer. Is this something new now that police will be associated with a crime that they are not involved in? Someone hears the end of the story and is not paying attention, they will draw another erroneous conclusion.

Retired

2/20/2017 01:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Must be contract time again.

2/20/2017 04:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chicago population is approx 2.7 mil, not 3.5. Redo your math.

2/20/2017 04:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just heard that Cmdr Sanchez from 010 is replacing Cmdr CK in 193 by the end of the month.

We just got him and will miss him. Who do you think 010 will get now?

2/20/2017 05:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Obviously the Department is covering up domestic violence committed by its members, as the Department covers up the physical abuse of citizens by its members. The connection is so blatant that any reporter can draw the inference.

Just another reporter with an axe to grind against police, while using only have the facts to form its conclusion.

Reading the article one sees how the reporter leaps to this conclusion.

And who helps the reporter jump the shark? None other than the DOJ and DV advocates, both lacking all the facts.

2/20/2017 12:38:00 AM

Finally, someone with common sense.

2/20/2017 05:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gowdy and his LIE Team members do not care about the truth.

2/20/2017 05:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2/20/2017 08:12:00 AM

Unfortunately, a lot of idiots on this job still do not get it. They still chase after cars that did not stop and when asked over the air they say the usual "a possible uuw/gun in the car" or "dui". You still have coppers who are engaging in foot chases for dope, reckless conduct, drinking, pissing, etc.

Some people will never learn. If there is a benefit for you then you won't even get two cents from me cause I just gave you my two cents right now- just answer your calls dummies! You ain't impressing nobody.

2/20/2017 05:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They've got an agenda to push.
They also love the taste of Rahm's ass and also enjoy guzzling his Kool-Aid.

2/20/2017 05:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ITeam, investigates. Hahahahahahahahahah. Laughing my ass off.

I don't know if Chicago is the fake news capital of the USA..

But it always smell like bullshit here.

They don't even know where 121 N. LaSalle is

2/20/2017 07:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe the real lesson here is that when neighbors hear their next door neighbors arguing they ought to mind their own business, and not call the police because husbands and wives dare ARGUE! Maybe when two people are fighting, and they both WANT to fight and both participate in fighting, even physically fighting, in their own home, it is THEIR business and not any else's business...

What a shocker...what an idea....like, people minding their own business, instead of trying to mind everyone else's business FOR them.

I submit the simple point that cops have much better,more productive and far more important things to do than be marriage counselors to people who didn't ask for their help in the first place.

2/20/2017 07:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I read a book a week. Have not read a "newspaper" or view television "news" in 15 years. I do remember HL Mencken writing about Baltimore correspondents sitting in the tavern getting lubricated and making up stories so they'd all be in agreement and they wouldn't have to go outside. "Newspaper Days". Great writing.

2/20/2017 07:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

182000 domestic incidents per 2.7 million people is 7%. 340 domestic incidents per 13,000 officers is 3%. The general public in Chicago is twice as likely as police officers to be involved in a domestic incident.

2/20/2017 07:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Man I was so pissed when I read this article I slapped my wife out of frustration. I didn't mean it so drank 20 beers and went to work.

2/20/2017 08:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2/20/2017 06:25:00 AM


Retirees shouldn't be able to vote on anything except the pension stuff. They should have zero say in what active members are dealing with.

2/20/2017 08:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another reason to ask for a 20% raise, high domestic incidents and divorce rates . An occupational hazard for cpd officers.

2/20/2017 08:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: According to Police On Boston PD just got 8% over 4 years. Didn't not look for other details.

2/20/2017 09:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"While a complaint or allegation against an officer is not an inherent implication of guilt, all domestic complaints against an officer are fully investigated by IPRA and officers are held accountable in cases of substantiated criminal or administrative misconduct." Then why run the story? IF the complaint is about a domestic call that was improperly handled. But, not a domestic involving the employee as an offender or accused. This would be a false light invasion of privacy. The "news" can not fly under the First Amendment excuse.

2/20/2017 09:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Retirees shouldn't be able to vote on anything except the pension stuff. They should have zero say in what active members are dealing with.

2/20/2017 08:30:00 PM

Bite me Bozo! You snot nose little shit. If you stopped hating and kept your eyes and ears open, you might learn something from guys who were pushing a beat car when you were still nursing. Typical millenial. No respect for anything.

2/20/2017 10:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT I just want to inform officers out there that there is an individual running for FOP Recording Secretary by the name of John Cantanzara, he refers to retirees as "old fucks" and they should not be allowed to vote in the FOP elections. Well Officer Cantanzara I'm currently on the job and may in fact agree that retirees rights should be limited when it comes to FOP elections, but to degrade retirees who served this city and gave years of their lives up just like we current members are now doing is a disgrace. I find it very sad that someone running for a position on our union board cannot treat retirees with respect. Need I remind you Officer Cantanzara you too will be a retiree one day and will have earned the respect that should be given to all retirees, I for one will never refer to any retiree in a degrading way and hope all current officers will give them the respect they deserve. To all officers and retirees out there I wish you good health and stay safe.


Thin skin much? Holy cow Sally did you grow up in the suburbs or something?

2/20/2017 11:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT,.. not really. Is there any concern of the tablets given to fto's are being used at home. Possibly disseminating info of citz and/or police. Passed around as a talking piece. This just doesn't seem well thought out.

2/21/2017 05:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree but to refer to retirees as "old fucks" is reprehensible.

2/21/2017 07:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
2/20/2017 06:25:00 AM


Retirees shouldn't be able to vote on anything except the pension stuff. They should have zero say in what active members are dealing with.

2/20/2017 08:30:00 PM

You are absolutely right. Why would retirees give a fuck about more cars in the contract? Fucking new hires out of duty availability pay in the contract. Percentage of merit promotions that everyone wants but can't get in the contract. Mandatory residency in the contract. Retro pay?
Ya, you have some good ideas there. What about anything about medical insurance? Would that be alright for retirees to have a say on? They can't go on the medical anymore. They have done their time and been through a lot more than you have and left the heavy lifting to all you VRI, retro pay people. Keep up the good work! How are all those new vehicles from the last contract working out?

2/21/2017 08:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Has he done a study on how many media folks and journalists have domestics, get arrested for DUI, etc?

Just axin

2/21/2017 08:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
182000 domestic incidents per 2.7 million people is 7%. 340 domestic incidents per 13,000 officers is 3%. The general public in Chicago is twice as likely as police officers to be involved in a domestic incident.

2/20/2017 07:37:00 PM
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There was a civilian female who lived with a PO. He came home late after a few pops and they had an argument loud enough for the neighbors to hear an call police. It wasn't physical, but a report for simple assault was done naming the PO as the offender based on the female saying she was afraid. Not sure of the details there. OPS contacts her a few days later and she retracts and does not want to go through with any type of complaint. They contact her again. And again. And again. They show up at her home. They call her at home. They start calling her at work. She tells them to stop contacting her. They start showing up at her job asking for her saying it was a police investigation. Now her bosses are wondering WTH is going on. If this was an ex, it would be stalking. They would not leave her alone. She ends up calling CPD on OPS so they would finally leave her alone.

2/21/2017 10:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Alot of these case reports were generated by officers to CYA. My case I got into it with my college age son who decided to be a little too aggresive and come at me in a threatening manner. I took no action, left his room and then he went to stay with my ex. She is a POS so a report was generated asap so she didnt tyr to screw me by having him make up some bs and cost me time.

2/21/2017 11:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT,.. not really. Is there any concern of the tablets given to fto's are being used at home. Possibly disseminating info of citz and/or police. Passed around as a talking piece. This just doesn't seem well thought out.

2/21/2017 05:32:00 AM

Some fucking retard WILL get fired in the near future because someone ran plates on their tablet.

2/21/2017 12:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

how many are wearing white shirts
thank you merit system

2/22/2017 10:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Boston got 8 percent over 4 years. Graham told my roll call 80 percent pensions for 25 years, free health care at 50, and 12 percent raise over 8 years. He got my vote. Not!!!

2/22/2017 10:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Boston got 8 percent over 4 years. Graham told my roll call 80 percent pensions for 25 years, free health care at 50, and 12 percent raise over 8 years. He got my vote. Not!!!

So because Boston got this and he tells you, you honestly believe he will get this for CPD
Chicago is not Boston.

2/23/2017 01:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT I just want to inform officers out there that there is an individual running for FOP Recording Secretary by the name of John Cantanzara, he refers to retirees as "old fucks" and they should not be allowed to vote in the FOP elections. Well Officer Cantanzara I'm currently on the job and may in fact agree that retirees rights should be limited when it comes to FOP elections, but to degrade retirees who served this city and gave years of their lives up just like we current members are now doing is a disgrace. I find it very sad that someone running for a position on our union board cannot treat retirees with respect. Need I remind you Officer Cantanzara you too will be a retiree one day and will have earned the respect that should be given to all retirees, I for one will never refer to any retiree in a degrading way and hope all current officers will give them the respect they deserve. To all officers and retirees out there I wish you good health and stay safe.


Thin skin much? Holy cow Sally did you grow up in the suburbs or something?

Isn't good to paint a certain group with wide brush
Not all retirees think like you think they do. I still pay my FOP dues and am all for the current po's getting better benefits. I had a great run with the CPD and am all for the active guys
Another point to ponder. What percentage of retirees have kids on the job. I think you would be surprised, maybe even 2 or 3 on the job and I would hope the retiree would do everything In his power to vote for anything that would benefit the kids
We are not all, I got my , now you get yours.

2/23/2017 01:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Boston got 8 percent over 4 years. Graham told my roll call 80 percent pensions for 25 years, free health care at 50, and 12 percent raise over 8 years. He got my vote. Not!!!

So because Boston got this and he tells you, you honestly believe he will get this for CPD
Chicago is not Boston.

2/23/2017 01:41:00 PM


Good God man read the whole thing you fucking moron.

2/25/2017 08:10:00 PM  

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