Saturday, February 18, 2017

Serious Question

So Special Ed sends out a notice that he intends to make another 130 or so Detectives before summer time. So if we have this straight:
  • 135 or so Detectives already this year
  • 140 or so Sergeants
  • another 130 Detectives before summer
400 promotions out of the blue shirts.

Just asking - do we have 400 recruits in the Academy due to come out before summer?  Because we know there aren't 400 FTO's to teach them - they're already asking for anyone eligible to sign up for the "FTO-lite" program, and those being taught aren't even able to work unsupervised until after this autumn.

It just has a bad feel to it all, especially as it goes against just about everything in the DOJ report regarding training.

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92 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Recruit classes will be no more than 100 a month coming out.

Therefore the department needs approximately 300 FTOs if they wish to put 1 PPO with 1 FTO.

2/18/2017 12:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a classic example of the city NEVER looking at the long term effects of their decisions. By not keeping up with hiring and having a solid FTO Program they're now bombarded with PPO's and not enough FTO's or willing P.O.'s to ride with them. You reap what you sow dumbasses.

2/18/2017 12:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look at it this way (Rahm's way) , the officers in uniform don't need to be there. Either they are 'resting' or 'avoiding' contacts so they don't end up in jail for doing their job. The less number of uniformed officers means less payouts.....



SHit, it sounded good when I thought it up....

2/18/2017 12:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our district man power has shrunk to a ridiculous number. Keep taking away from patrol and we will have nothing left

2/18/2017 12:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

New recruits in the summertime, just in time for all the fests, so they won't be in the districts to stop the killings.

2/18/2017 12:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another class of detectives starting in a week or so.

2/18/2017 12:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Detective is not a promotion... it's an assignment.

2/18/2017 12:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Send the newbies to financial crime!

Those ass hat make about the same amount of arrest as a CAPS officer.

Or just shut it down and have the area do financial again.

I love hearing that if the bank pays you you aint a victim till its an exempt!

2/18/2017 12:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How many detectives does he plan on promoting overall from the recent test?

2/18/2017 12:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another Sgt's class in April how true is that ?

2/18/2017 01:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And they say VRI will be eliminated. LOL.

2/18/2017 01:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Sick and Tired of it all said...

SCC,

There's the 400 you mentioned, plus another rumored 50 sgts, plus how many retiring by June? We will be down 1,000 officers between promotions and retirements by July. How many PPOs will be on the street by July?

F*ck it all, they're not going to make me work any harder. Not while a third 9161's gets taken care of in "spots".

2/18/2017 01:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They need to go back to a year and a day. Six months academy six months and a day field training. You'll either learn or you won't.

2/18/2017 02:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rahm's numbers are always pie in the sky numbers...... you can never, ever believe that lying sack of shit.

2/18/2017 03:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But we now have 3 Lts on 3 rd and 1 st watch

2/18/2017 03:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While we're on the topic of the Superintendent. What happenened with his girlfriends sons shenanigans a little bit ago?

2/18/2017 05:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There must be some more "merit" slugs that they want to take care of.

2/18/2017 06:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Detective is not a promotion... it's an assignment.

Call it what you want fuckstick ..........I made 140k last year.

2/18/2017 06:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rahm's chickens are coming home to roost. This is what happens when you treat the police as the lowest class; letting the ranks of blue shirts dwindle until we have 800 homicides a year; when you don't hire to replace the retirees for years; this is what happens when you screw over the FTOs who actually train the new recruits. FTOs were screwed and lied to every time so no one wants that job.

What the general public doesn't seem to understand is every time someone is promoted, the blue-shirt, beat car riding police loose another body that was patrolling your neighborhood. 400 new hires isn't going to cover the number of promotions and retirees for this year, so patrol officers on every beat will be depleted even more than they are now.

All the bloodshed is on the hands of Rahm, Democrats and Liberals - keep treating your last line of defense as second class citizens & this is what you end up with.

2/18/2017 07:04:00 AM  
Blogger SpankDaddy said...

Democrats have always had trouble with math.

2/18/2017 07:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

New detectives, say good bye to your families.
No way I would take that job.

2/18/2017 07:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
They need to go back to a year and a day. Six months academy six months and a day field training. You'll either learn or you won't.

2/18/2017 02:40:00 AM

Of all the things we'll be fighting for in this contract, the 18 month probation isn't a highest priority. The city would love to make all of us at-will employees who they can move around at a moments notice. Unfortunately it's a sunk cost and isn't going anywhere, just like the delayed duty availability payments that started with this new contract for PPO's. People are always willing to throw the new guys under the bus under the guise of "when you're new you don't know any better" at contract time. It's actually quite sad. But I do think it's refreshing to to you looking out for them, because most people could give a rats ass.

2/18/2017 07:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A LOT of merit suck holes' butts just clenched very very hard.. No more hiding, you useless merit hacks. Hahahahahahahahahahahahah!! Enjoy the many years of disrespect and ostracizing coming your way.

2/18/2017 07:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If there is no FTOs the PPO's will be at the desk under the supervision of a desk sergeant or on the street riding with a sergeant.

2/18/2017 07:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes there are at least 400 in the academy. 100 just started on Monday.

2/18/2017 08:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If CPD had any sense they would have an accelerated transitional academy to take lateral cops from other departments. Making them go through a 9 month academy when they have been the police for 5 years, many of them in shitholes as bad as any Chicago beat, is just stupid. They are young enough to still think that being a Chicago cop is a cool thing to tell their friends. Of course after 2 years they'll go back to making $80k in the burbs and not dealing with the politics of CPD, but you'd have some good guys for a bit. And god forbid CPD leadership ever gets its head out of its ass and makes some long overdue changes and runs their dysfunctional baby bud circus like a real department, you may even get some of those laterals to stay. Chicago could get 100 laterals on the street in 2 months if they had any sense.

2/18/2017 08:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The city will need more detectives if you think about it. As the department goes away from a proactive style and more towards a reactive style someone has to investigate the crimes after they happen. As before good 9161s we're stopping these crimes before they happened.

2/18/2017 08:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Really should know what you're talking about. NO suburban PD (or any other in the State of Ill) maxes out on their pension at 25 years. If you want ours to be like everyone else's, you'd have to work until the end of your 30th year (30 and a day).Only ISP is able to max out at 26.8 years. No one else. Now if you're talking about maxing out on pay, we already max out at 25 years.

Up until the 90's, on our Dept., you had to work 32 years to max out on the pension. It got lowered to the "29 and a day." Maxing out on pay was a 30 year scale. When the 29 and a day took effect, it was reasoned that most people would not go until 30 years, so the max pay got lowered to 25 years. Also, originally, the "Duty availability pay" was not pensionable. That was made pensionable about 3 years after we started getting it. That added about $200-250 to your monthly pension. Say what you want, but FOP got most of this done.


And a state law was passed where residency (Only for Illinois cities with a population of 1 million plus = Chicago) cannot be negotiated for by a bargaining unit. So FOP can't do squat during contract talks about residency.

Want what some suburbs have? How about no step increase until you're on 3 1/2 years, no time on the books for holidays- only paid out. Caps on time kept on the books (40,80, 100 hours max),Getting 12 sick days a year (have less than 10 years on, break your arm and you go to "no pay" status pretty quick, don't even talk about a major illness), mandatory ordered in to work OT, pay that maxes out at most suburb PD's at $10K or less than CPD (after 20 years on the job), uniform allowances that are $400-800 per year, no shift differential (duty availability pay),places that promote maybe 1 or 2 Sgt's every 5-10 years, places that have 4,5, maybe 10 Dics, and no extra $$$ for being one (wait for one of those spots to open up). A lot of what we have isn't so bad. And the ones that pay on par with us are the ones that 500 people show up to test for 1,2,5 openings. It can be better, but a maxed P/O, with a little special, court, and VRI, can do 100K year easy. A lot of the burbs, their top brass don't do what we max out at as P/O's. Dic, Sgt, Lt's pay on CPD is Chief's pay there.

Still want what "the burbs" got?

No matter what Union we have, if you elected goofs to run it, you'll get the same results.

Sometimes hard to believe some of these posters are coppers.

2/18/2017 08:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How the hell does this dept. justify three Lt. a watch - these guys are tripping over themselves with nothing to do - the waist and incompetence of this dept. is a joke!!!!!!!!

2/18/2017 08:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Another Sgt's class in April how true is that ?

2/18/2017 01:22:00 AM
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It's not true at all- sorry. It's coming in late October.

2/18/2017 08:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Detective is not a promotion... it's an assignment.

2/18/2017 12:40:00 AM

Promotions are...assignments.

2/18/2017 08:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They have so little FTOs that Patrol just approved 2 recruits to an FTO starting the next group out of the academy. Shades of McStreetlights! What would the DOJ say about this?

2/18/2017 08:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HMMMMM, could it be the Lt test scammers will be the downfall of Special Ed? He will be forced out, or I mean his kidney will force him to retire to avoid embarrassment, so he needs to get his peeps in before that.

2/18/2017 08:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm retiring in May. I was told by someone at HQ that over 800 retirements are taking place in May alone. So to all you media types, keep drinking rahm's jiz. So much real reporting.

2/18/2017 08:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Question, what happens when a recruit gets injured, do they replace them in that class, and do they recycle the re ruin into next class. Seems like quite a few get hurt.

2/18/2017 09:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How many detectives does he plan on promoting overall from the recent test?

2/18/2017 12:44:00 AM



850

2/18/2017 09:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about the city stop f'ing with FTO's. And make worth the risk.

2/18/2017 09:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dick's class starting on February 27.

2/18/2017 09:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2/18/2017 03:01:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
But we now have 3 Lts on 3 rd and 1 st watch

2/18/2017 03:43:00 AM

We've got 3 on 2nd watch too.

2/18/2017 10:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
Detective is not a promotion... it's an assignment.

2/18/2017 12:40:00 AM

Another fucking smart guy here. Listen motherfucker I took a PROMOTIONAL EXAM FOR DETECTIVE. I made Detective off of my test score, the department didn't give me shit. You get assigned to tact, gang, Narcotics, CAPS, etc... While these spots are not ranks E.T, FTO, K9, and Detective are a promotion by the definition. If they were an assignment the Superintent can bypass any of these PROMOTIONAL lists and assign anybody he wants to be an ET, FTO, K9, or Detective whenever he wants. Let's see him ASSIGN people to those spots by bypassing the PROMOTIONAL LIST and see what happens smartass!

2/18/2017 10:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Detective is not a promotion... it's an assignment.

2/18/2017 12:40:00 AM

...is not a promotion. Nyah Nyah Nyah Nyah Nyah Nyah.

STFU up already.

2/18/2017 10:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another 100 Sergeants to be made by fall.

2/18/2017 10:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My neighbor retired last week. They could not give him a retired ID card. Seems they ran out of stock!

2/18/2017 10:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

450 detectives by the end of 2018

2/18/2017 11:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The city is going to stock up on the Detective
unit, so that they can staff Detectives from Kedzie
and Harrison or maybe Grand and Central. Building
on Harrison is deteriorating

2/18/2017 11:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Plenty of full duty blue shirts hiding inside the 3rd district
If many hiding in 3 , I bet every other district is hiding as many or more
Now take into consideration full duty officers hiding in headquarters ,homan square
Oh boy , patrol the backbone of CPD
I don't think so

2/18/2017 12:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DOJ made a diversity determination, based on the obama model. Their "Hiring Plan" involves leveling the playing field.
Rahm's Hiing Plan will follow is the. DOJ diversity model, will only be implemented when fiscally possible and a political chess move. 2017 is a political strategy year, 2018 is Rahm's target date for mass hiring. Odd year testing and even year hiring.
That's politics. Nobody is harping for more police, they're too busy with social protesting, immigrant issues and bashing President Trump.
The DOJ (the Fed) is not providing funding for any upcoming police hiring. Expect a busy summer with limited time off.
This year Rahm has no intention of 400 new hires to bolster manpower for Aug/Sep/Oct academy graduates, there will be select hires, maybe 100-200 tops. Promotions will not be in excess of 100.
Look at the history of his previous Dept hiring, 2017 is not the year as voters will forget about 2016-17 high murder rates. Campaign kicks off in 2018, it's that simple. Bike paths, doggie parks, parades, police hires Spring 2018...that's what people will remember on Feb 2019.
Rahm and only Rahm can hire, it's his kingdom to do as he pleases.
He may have went to DC and pleaded for President Trump to give him a billion, but he will not get anything until he can prove its not a program wasting spending fest. Rahm want funding, but not for hiring, jails, courts.
Why didn't obama consider police hiring to combat crime in his hometown?
(Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcment Act of 1994)
Because there's an anti-police movement created by obama and endorsed by Rahm Democrats.

Hiring and perhaps very few, is solely up to Rahm, not the DOJ.
Expect new exams before the end of the year to fulfill DOJ recommendations of obama's Task Force 21st Century Policing.

2/18/2017 01:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope they are training them to process their own scenes. Not enough ET's to keep up with crime. Cameras over 10 years old cars with over 150,000 miles. Most Sundays and Mondays they don't even have enough film cards to take pictures. We can't have any of the house mouse's work the weekends. Over paid ET's and PFI's working the photo lab. There are more assigned ET's to inside positions then those that work the streets. Seems to me some command changes should be made.

2/18/2017 01:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Detective is not a promotion... it's an assignment."

Semantics, it's an assignment that's pays more, better work conditions and more responsibility. It's an assignment that's better then a Sgts promotion, I'll take it.

2/18/2017 01:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put patrol into the dics, have white shirts work the streets responding to calls for service! Be reactive only, no beefs, no one gets jammed up! Clearance rate goes up, it's a win win! Bosses will never be held accountable on the street!!!

2/18/2017 01:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another reason for the feds to come in and decertify the corrupt CPD. They willingly disobey dept.of justice orders. Tell your families to stay away from chgo summer festivals, they will not be safe.

2/18/2017 02:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Top heavy- just as the Pension Fund is starting to show some signs of life= increase the number who are eligible for the COLA and a few years from now , the Fund will be in bigger trouble.

2/18/2017 02:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look at the bright side. Soon we'll all be detectives or sergeants.

2/18/2017 02:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Detective is not a promotion... it's an assignment.

Call it what you want fuckstick ..........I made 140k last year.

2/18/2017 06:51:00 AM

I'm sure there are some P/O's that made that. If you have to put on an uniform what color would your shirt be, fuckstick?

2/18/2017 03:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

According to " the numbers" Hillary was gonna win 45 states by more than 10%.🤔These people are the masters at cooking bull💩Numbers.

2/18/2017 03:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Detective is not a promotion... it's an assignment.

2/18/2017 12:40:00 AM

Says the guys that bombed the promotional test for detective...

2/18/2017 03:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
New detectives, say good bye to your families.
No way I would take that job.

2/18/2017 07:23:00 AM

There's no way we want you. There's enough do-nothing jagoffs now.

2/18/2017 05:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any info about MAUI unit class???

2/18/2017 06:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
There must be some more "merit" slugs that they want to take care of.

2/18/2017 06:29:00 AM

Hey tough guy, ask the FOP to ask Rahm what it would take to get rid of "merit" promotions. Then get the rank and file to agree to negotiate for no merit and have at it.

Merit promotions suck. Too large of a percentage of over all promotions, and zero criteria for what constitutes merit.

2/18/2017 06:20:00 PM  
Anonymous IN THE KNOW (or not). said...

Lots of crying going on at HQ on Thursday around 1430 hours when they were reading off the new D assignments. Only the heavy went North (and by heavy, I mean so many phone calls came into S.O.'s desk that he had to start prioritizing who's heavier. Some unlucky Commanders are going to have hurt feelings). Take a look at the names when the assignments come out and you'll see what Im talking about.

On a side not: The CAPS guy from 018 in the D class withdrew and requested to be sent back to 018 instead of going to A/S - hahahahaha! Hey 018 CAPS guy, you took someone's spot asshat! You must be one of those buddy f#ckers.

2/18/2017 06:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'm retiring in May. I was told by someone at HQ that over 800 retirements are taking place in May alone. So to all you media types, keep drinking rahm's jiz. So much real reporting.

Well this isn't real reporting. There is no way and I'm surprised the guy that said it could find someone he thought would believe it

2/18/2017 07:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Detective is not a promotion... it's an assignment."

– in the works:
OEMC will have calltakers "assigned" as Communications Detective Intern 9165.1(a) and will be responsible for Suspending Part 1 & 2 - No Offender on Scene Calls before being dispatched and ever reported.
All RD numbers will be monitored and Suspended or Purged prior to being received at an Area Case Management.

This Initiative will free up the BOD caseloads and redirect resources to strictly Felonies and save the Mayor's Sanctuary City Budget, also halting any further depletion of the Patrol Div ranks with costly promotional exams and assignments.

High taxed and underserved Zone 1 will be the pilot for the program if it's not already in practice.

2/18/2017 08:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No, starting since November we have had a recruit class of 100-150 graduate every month. So from November-may there will be anywhere from 700 minimum to 950 max graduating the academy. Also though every month in 2017 there will be a class of 100-150 depending on class size entering the academy to graduate late 2017 and early 2018... so in other words the promotions can be handled and we will gain some back. What will be lost and gained with retirement is still a mystery though. Word is a lot of people are going to hang on to see what contract negotiations bring about so the huge numbers people were thinking of so far have not been happening and aren't expected to be as big as people thing. If contract seems like it's going to be bad look for a lot to retire before it is officially signed off on.

2/18/2017 09:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Detective is not a promotion... it's an assignment.

2/18/2017 12:40:00 AM

Another fucking smart guy here. Listen motherfucker I took a PROMOTIONAL EXAM FOR DETECTIVE. I made Detective off of my test score, the department didn't give me shit. You get assigned to tact, gang, Narcotics, CAPS, etc... While these spots are not ranks E.T, FTO, K9, and Detective are a promotion by the definition. If they were an assignment the Superintent can bypass any of these PROMOTIONAL lists and assign anybody he wants to be an ET, FTO, K9, or Detective whenever he wants. Let's see him ASSIGN people to those spots by bypassing the PROMOTIONAL LIST and see what happens smartass!

2/18/2017 10:25:00 AM

_____________


Thank you, I was just about to respond in the same manner. You did it already. Some people are just too dumb to think for themselves or to figure things out.

2/18/2017 09:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2/18/2017 10:25:00 AM,

Listen dickhead, you are a police officer assigned as a detective. But, apparently not a very good detective because you are too stupid to know your title. Do a little detecting there detective and find out, you dumbass.
And, here's another newsflash for you. The city is not required to hold an exam for another title. Yeah dickhead, chew on that one. Take your exam score and shove it up your high and mighty false bravado detective ass!

2/18/2017 10:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put patrol into the dics, have white shirts work the streets responding to calls for service! Be reactive only, no beefs, no one gets jammed up! Clearance rate goes up, it's a win win! Bosses will never be held accountable on the street!!!

You're one brilliant guy, Francis. White shirts work the streets responding to calls for service. Like they don't already?

2/18/2017 11:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Merit all the way Supt Ed and his all the way merit command staff that have been a complete failure. Will again make a joke out of the merit process by promoting all connected inside people,just like they did with the last Sgt class. Making there girlfriends. Who says it dont pay to know how to handle the meat stick.

2/19/2017 01:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Technically you can can only be promoted to sergeant and lieutenant. Those ranks once achieved cannot be taken away. D2, D-2A, captain and exempt positions can be taken from you.

2/19/2017 08:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...starting since November we have had a recruit class of 100-150 graduate every month.."

This is not true and without enough people going into the academy (and coming out six months later) it will get worse and worse.

2/19/2017 09:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey headquarters, you the best possible candidates for FTO, then pay them. Experience and quality has a price. It's a failed program that's why your begging for the blue shirts to sign up. Prove me wrong!

2/19/2017 10:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The training element of the DOJ report was far and away the most accurate portion

2/19/2017 10:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
2/18/2017 10:25:00 AM,

Listen dickhead, you are a police officer assigned as a detective. But, apparently not a very good detective because you are too stupid to know your title. Do a little detecting there detective and find out, you dumbass.
And, here's another newsflash for you. The city is not required to hold an exam for another title. Yeah dickhead, chew on that one. Take your exam score and shove it up your high and mighty false bravado detective ass!

2/18/2017 10:17:00 PM



listen i too took a detective promotional exam and made dick off of score. you my friend are what I would call a hater! yeah i know its not fair, people have the answers and the merit process is crooked...oh yeah bernstein is a crook...enjoy pushing a blue and white the rest of your career buddy because i am almost certain no boss would want you in his unit with that salty attitude!

2/19/2017 10:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

With all these Detectives coming into the Area's, what are they going to drive. There are not enough cars for the current Detectives to use, it's so bad there are leasing cars. They have no equipment for them so if you're in a hurry to get to a job on the streets then forget it. That is unless you hang your head out the window and howl to make siren noises. Let's throw another 130+ into the group that gets out soon and we'll have plenty of Detectives not being able to get to jobs.
All this and patrol is nowhere close to having the vehicles they need before Detectives. Rahm you truly are a douche bag!!

2/19/2017 11:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2/18/2017 10:25:00 AM,

Listen dickhead, you are a police officer assigned as a detective. But, apparently not a very good detective because you are too stupid to know your title. Do a little detecting there detective and find out, you dumbass.
And, here's another newsflash for you. The city is not required to hold an exam for another title. Yeah dickhead, chew on that one. Take your exam score and shove it up your high and mighty false bravado detective ass!

2/18/2017 10:17:00 PM

Right. And you'll need those POs assigned as detectives to save you from shitting all over yourself. Or are you one of those roll call know it alls that tells everyone how to do shit without ever really doing it yourself?

My fellow POs assigned as detectives think it's the latter.

2/19/2017 11:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

– in the works:
OEMC will have calltakers "assigned" as Communications Detective Intern 9165.1(a) and will be responsible for Suspending Part 1 & 2 - No Offender on Scene Calls before being dispatched and ever reported.
All RD numbers will be monitored and Suspended or Purged prior to being received at an Area Case Management.

This Initiative will free up the BOD caseloads and redirect resources to strictly Felonies and save the Mayor's Sanctuary City Budget, also halting any further depletion of the Patrol Div ranks with costly promotional exams and assignments.

High taxed and underserved Zone 1 will be the pilot for the program if it's not already in practice.

2/18/2017 08:59:00 PM


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not that we have to do everything NYPD does, but one good thing iS EVERY CASE IS SUSPENDED AUTOMATICALLY unless re-opened by the det.

no more working on go-nowhere cases and wasting time

2/19/2017 12:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'm retiring in May. I was told by someone at HQ that over 800 retirements are taking place in May alone. So to all you media types, keep drinking rahm's jiz. So much real reporting.

Well this isn't real reporting. There is no way and I'm surprised the guy that said it could find someone he thought would believe it

2/18/2017 07:29:00 PM


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why wouldn't you beleive it? The 55 and out is on the table

run how many guys are between 55-60 ... their medical is at risk .. what is the 55 and out is gone next contract?

2/19/2017 12:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Detective is not a promotion... it's an assignment.

2/18/2017 12:40:00 AM

Another fucking smart guy here. Listen motherfucker I took a PROMOTIONAL EXAM FOR DETECTIVE. I made Detective off of my test score, the department didn't give me shit. You get assigned to tact, gang, Narcotics, CAPS, etc... While these spots are not ranks E.T, FTO, K9, and Detective are a promotion by the definition. If they were an assignment the Superintent can bypass any of these PROMOTIONAL lists and assign anybody he wants to be an ET, FTO, K9, or Detective whenever he wants. Let's see him ASSIGN people to those spots by bypassing the PROMOTIONAL LIST and see what happens smartass!

2/18/2017 10:25:00 AM

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assignment/promotion who cares what it's called... it's BETTER than a promotion because you can resign and go back to patrol if you want AND you keep your seniority AND the courts have said it is a civil service rank meaning you can be dumped ONLY FOR CAUSE.

so there ...

2/19/2017 12:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Really should know what you're talking about. NO suburban PD (or any other in the State of Ill) maxes out on their pension at 25 years. If you want ours to be like everyone else's, you'd have to work until the end of your 30th year (30 and a day).Only ISP is able to max out at 26.8 years. No one else. Now if you're talking about maxing out on pay, we already max out at 25 years.

Up until the 90's, on our Dept., you had to work 32 years to max out on the pension. It got lowered to the "29 and a day." Maxing out on pay was a 30 year scale. When the 29 and a day took effect, it was reasoned that most people would not go until 30 years, so the max pay got lowered to 25 years. Also, originally, the "Duty availability pay" was not pensionable. That was made pensionable about 3 years after we started getting it. That added about $200-250 to your monthly pension. Say what you want, but FOP got most of this done.


And a state law was passed where residency (Only for Illinois cities with a population of 1 million plus = Chicago) cannot be negotiated for by a bargaining unit. So FOP can't do squat during contract talks about residency.

Want what some suburbs have? How about no step increase until you're on 3 1/2 years, no time on the books for holidays- only paid out. Caps on time kept on the books (40,80, 100 hours max),Getting 12 sick days a year (have less than 10 years on, break your arm and you go to "no pay" status pretty quick, don't even talk about a major illness), mandatory ordered in to work OT, pay that maxes out at most suburb PD's at $10K or less than CPD (after 20 years on the job), uniform allowances that are $400-800 per year, no shift differential (duty availability pay),places that promote maybe 1 or 2 Sgt's every 5-10 years, places that have 4,5, maybe 10 Dics, and no extra $$$ for being one (wait for one of those spots to open up). A lot of what we have isn't so bad. And the ones that pay on par with us are the ones that 500 people show up to test for 1,2,5 openings. It can be better, but a maxed P/O, with a little special, court, and VRI, can do 100K year easy. A lot of the burbs, their top brass don't do what we max out at as P/O's. Dic, Sgt, Lt's pay on CPD is Chief's pay there.

Still want what "the burbs" got?

No matter what Union we have, if you elected goofs to run it, you'll get the same results.

Sometimes hard to believe some of these posters are coppers.

2/18/2017 08:14:00 AM


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well said

2/19/2017 12:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2/18@10:48 hrs. - WTF, no retired ID Cards for retirees? Doesn't HR fall under Barb "Pillows" West's command? If you can't even keep ID cards on hand, what else will you screw up? Looks like Barb thinks that she just has to high 5 Rahmulus each time he sees her and that will make her highly qualified for Fat Head Ed's job.

Retired .38 spl +P

2/19/2017 03:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'm retiring in May. I was told by someone at HQ that over 800 retirements are taking place in May alone. So to all you media types, keep drinking rahm's jiz. So much real reporting.

Well this isn't real reporting. There is no way and I'm surprised the guy that said it could find someone he thought would believe it

2/18/2017 07:29:00 PM


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why wouldn't you beleive it? The 55 and out is on the table

run how many guys are between 55-60 ... their medical is at risk .. what is the 55 and out is gone next contract?

Never going to happen 800 in May
55 and out has been on the table the last 3 contracts There never have been 800 retirements in a year, let alone a month

2/19/2017 05:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Heres why it wont happen So far only 402 have said they wanted to retire in 2017 Its Feb papers would have been in by now, but if you believe 800 in May go for it
Just because a guy is 55 doesnt mean he wants to retire Look at the po's 60 and over, they are still hanging around You forgot to takeinto account how many are 58 and 59 and only have to stay a year of two before the get the 60 year old benefit.
If you believe 800 in May, good for you.

2/19/2017 06:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My fellow POs assigned as detectives think it's the latter.

2/19/2017 11:56:00 AM

Now you speak for your fellow defectives? You must be a real handjob. And, if one counts your standing as a promotion, then I am a few rungs on the ladder ahead of you.

2/19/2017 06:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Technically you can can only be promoted to sergeant and lieutenant. Those ranks once achieved cannot be taken away. D2, D-2A, captain and exempt positions can be taken from you.

2/19/2017 08:09:00 AM

Captain is a civil service rank. Once a captain always a captain.

2/19/2017 06:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Captain is a civil service rank. Once a captain always a captain.

2/19/2017 0f:39:00 PM

You are either unaware of changes happening around you or you have been retired for a very, very, very long time. You could not be more in error.

2/19/2017 08:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Captain is a civil service rank. Once a captain always a captain.

2/19/2017 06:39:00 PM

Not anymore. Captains are appointed now and serve a six month probationary period. After their probationary period is done they can only be removed for cause, but they technically can still be removed. They tried to remove Marc Buslik years ago but we're not successful. I'm not sure but I don't think any captain who was completed the probationary period has been removed for cause since they started the new method.

2/19/2017 08:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Captain is NOT civil service. There is no exam for the position. Its exempt.

2/19/2017 10:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Detective is not a promotion... it's an assignment.

Call it what you want fuckstick ..........I made 140k last year.
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And after the triple by-pass after a major cardiac incident, you will be making a 65 % pension from the heart attack benefit.

But the 0300 hr beers and Maxwell street hamburgers were great. Or catching a major punch in the chest typing after working 24 hours straight.

Pigs get fat and O.T hogs get major health problems on this job. Seen many a dick hitting the ground way before their time. Tragic !

$$$ is great, but walking around with multiple heart stents is not good. Been there and survived with only two stents and no heart attack. Plain ass luck, life in the D unit of heavy hitters. But, God bless you all in the areas getting kicked around everyday. Most of us had or have no sense working like mules.

2/19/2017 11:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

rumor that 55 health care is out , will have to wait until 60 and pay 2%

2/20/2017 02:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of promotions was there a recent posting of the Merit LTs. I only saw the list for Merit Sgts.

2/20/2017 03:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Captain is NOT civil service. There is no exam for the position. Its exempt.

2/19/2017 10:49:00 PM

It is not exempt. You have no idea what exempt means.

2/21/2017 12:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Technically you can can only be promoted to sergeant and lieutenant. Those ranks once achieved cannot be taken away. D2, D-2A, captain and exempt positions can be taken from you.

2/19/2017 08:09:00 AM

Captain is a civil service rank. Once a captain always a captain.

2/19/2017 06:39:00 PM

You right.

2/21/2017 12:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Captain is a civil service rank. Once a captain always a captain.

2/19/2017 06:39:00 PM

You right.

2/21/2017 12:14:00 PM

WRONG!!! Where have you been? Leroy Martin all but abolished captain and when it came back it was as an appointed rank. The last of the career service rank captains are long gone. Captains are APPOINTED! A lieutenant has to apply for captain. There is no test. Unlike gold star exempts they can only be reduced in rank for just cause (except during the six month probationary period.) After the probationary period it would take a shitload to reduce them in rank...but there is a procedure in place. It just hasn't happened to a non probationary captain yet.

Now go get your shine box and read up on the orders.

2/22/2017 03:43:00 PM  

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