Official Results
Here they are:
Run off for the top office only.
Run off for the top office only.
Supposedly Dean is all over Facebook, asking for a debate between the two candidates and bemoaning the spending of $100,000 to have a runoff election. We would suggest that if Dean is that concerned about the $100K, he ought to be the bigger guy and step aside. After all it's for the children membership. Otherwise, shut up and campaign.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
120 Comments:
Collect the golf shoes, that should cover $25K
...or you can't get a refund on purchased votes
Never got my ballot. Called the fop and was told come in to vote. Explained that I had a trial the whole week and asked if they could resend a ballot and was told, too bad can't do anything. Great leadership we have!
So Dougherty and Donahue can't just ride off into the sunset and enjoy retirement...they have to suck out more money...what's the point of voting when shit like this happens?
No matter who wins in the runoff we're looking at a 4 year contract with a 7-9% increase in pay. No increase in uniform and duty availability. The city will propose a whole bunch of lunatic disciplinary changes/oversight on police conduct.
Deano you and your boys pissed away a whole lot of money on the golf outing but now you're concerned about the $100K the runoff will cost???
Love how frivolous spending of our money becomes a HUGE issue for politicians when they see the writing on the wall that their ass is to be de-throned. Otherwise it's just a drop in the bucket, and totally worth the money for our benefit. Blow it out your ass Dean, now come to my 2100 Rollcall and lie to me.
Angelo is going to win. Take it to the bank.
What? The cops have a Union? When did this happen? O, it's run just like the city council, Rahm is in charge. Vote the Lodge out and a real Union in But there are no real Unions anymore. Just a different set of assholes looking for a free ride on the backs of there membership. What a brave new world we live in!
100,000 is a drop in the bucket compared to forgiving a payment into MY and everyone else's pension Dean. I go to almost every meeting. Vote Graham! "It's a good thing"
Can someone cite one thing that Dean Angelo has done for us.
Seriously, one thing.....
I know absolutely nothing about the other guy, but there is no way he can possibly be worse.
3/12/2017 01:06:00 AM
Yes, he got you a casino that will fund our pension. Oh wait! There is no f**king casino. Screw him vote Graham.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
9 out of 17 elected trustees are RETIRED! Soon to be 10 out of 17 when another retirees soon with the 55 and out medical program. 2 of 3 Sgt of Arms are retired. Recording secretary retired. Why the fuck are these many retirees running the union when they have zero ability to vote on any active matters?
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Along the 20 years I said the same thing, and basically got noting along the way. It was about me then.. there's a good chance I've paid more union dues than you and still got nothing. Well, it's still about me and I'm looking at retirement soon. One day you'll understand. Retirees have a vote, and it's not an issue of them versus us. A few more years of getting screwed and you'll get it
3/11/2017 06:08:00 PM
The reason this statement doesn't not hold up is because any active officer will at some point be retired. Any active elected official will always be looking out for the active and retirees cause down the line they will be there too. A retiree on the board while looking out for the benefits of the retirees does not have a card in the game for the actives. Now I do understand that they might have knowledge and "should" have the interests of the active at heart, at the end of the day when it comes down to it they will always put retirees first.
Add the simple fact that elected retirees can not vote on any matters regarding the contract. Can't vote on grievances.
If you go on the simple statement that they have knowledge part, well just like a FTO or veteran while working you pass that on to others to carry the torch when you are gone.
The sad truth is that most, not all, but most retirees on the board are there to pad their pension another $7,200 a year from the stipend. A simple fact to prove this is that for 3 years you never see them at any roll calls in the district. Come election time they magically appear. Prove me wrong and list the District and roll call along wth the names of Board members who have shown up.
Soon the Supreme Court of Illinois will dismiss the Underwood case and the City will win their fight to eliminate retiree health care. Do I want that, no, but it will happen. After that what card will a elected retiree have to continue the push to control the make up of the FOP board? Pension? Once again that is an issue that all actives have a serious claim to because they will be there at some point too.
Ask another question. What other FOP Lodge has the current board make up like Lodge 7 in which retirees can have this much control?
The answer is NONE. Call the State Lodge and ask. Hell, call the fucking national and ask.
Call bullshit on the $100,000 tab. Prove it with copies of the bills.
Professor Dean has cuff links and a matching pinky ring worth more than that..
Fuck you dean I pay 1295.00 for health insurance you don't get my Vote
RUMOR HAS IT...
Over the course of meeting with the Membership, several Angelo Team Members have been told by Officers and Detectives that our oppositions' main goals are less about winning, and more about "getting Dean in a run-off."
RUMOR KILLER...
Really, that is their goal? To cost the Membership more money, like some of them did in the past? The cost of the election and run-off would be in excess of $90,000 of Membership money, $90,000!! This election seems to be more or less of a joke to some, but not to us.
Directly from Angelos campaign website. So he says he says at one point the cost of and election And run-off would cost $90,000 and now he is posting all over Facebook that a RUN-OFF would cost $100,000......make up your mind. Which is it?
How the h-ll did aguliar get so many votes. We are our own worst enemies. Wake up people !!!
Deano has his priorities. Golf is tops.
Oh DEAN really a debate!
Why Dont you change the by-law now while you are still in power and make it a mandatory thing for every election???
But you being a college type ass hat assume we are stupid idiots and know you have no cash reserve for another mailing.
Nobody wants to hear you drone about how you have experience or that you kid is a merit hack who wants an easy district working property crimes!
How about a by law about recruits voting when they are sworn too???
How about a by law about the retirees hi jacking the FOP???
I wish you luck collecting cash from the law firms for the run off and how you can stand for more than 10 minutes to actually campaign!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
No matter who wins in the runoff we're looking at a 4 year contract with a 7-9% increase in pay. No increase in uniform and duty availability. The city will propose a whole bunch of lunatic disciplinary changes/oversight on police conduct.
3/12/2017 01:49:00 AM
This is just one of the many reasons we need new leadership and vote for Kevin Graham. Silent Dean gave us a terrible contract and we sure don't want him doing it again. We need Marty Prieb and Kevin Graham together. Is it true Angelo will be 63 and retired soon? We sure don't want a retiree as our president. Can anyone confirm this? This is very important.
If Dean is crying about the $$$ for the runoff election then he's a hypocrite. We didn't hear him crying about the runoff that he was in last election did we? Then it was ok huh Dean? Unreal! Vote Kevin Graham. We need new leadership badly.
I would like to know how many ballots actually went out? Active and retiree?
Why not have a debate? I think there should be debate with every election. Campaigning is just story telling.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Saw this on Facebook. Thought it was interesting!
Dean reaches retirement age in June or July! Seriously, don't vote for a retiree! You think this man has an ounce of integrity to pass the torch to an active candidate??
Hell NO!! He's in it for the end game������
3/11/2017 08:52:00 PM
Is this true???? No fucking way do we want Angelo as FOP president being a retiree!!! Hell no! Gotta go with Kevin Graham. He's an active patrolman.
Donahue and Dougherty cost all of us a lot of money, a lot more than $25000 for golf shoes. We are so screwed if we keep making this a popularity contest.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I do notknow Kevin very well, new on days this year... but I will tell you one thing he is always helpful, stays on his own time to help others.. and the impressive part he listens and does not try to walk away from you.
I think he will fight for us... what more can you ask vote for Kevin Graham.
3/11/2017 08:31:00 PM
Totally agree. He's always around. Still Wears our uniform in patrol and won't be 63 and retired like Angelo. Something to really think about when voting. When's the last time Angelo went to a 911 call??? Time for a change. We need a better contract.
Hey Dean,
If your so upset about the $100k the lodge is going to have to pay to have a run off election, how about you start by paying back the $25k you pissed away on golf shoes for only part of the membership. Asshat.
Go away Dean, you're not wanted anymore.
You have failed the membership.
I think that Kevin is more than qualified with his service on the board and the state lodge.
From Dean:
Dean Angelo Sr.
16 hrs ·
Due to the fact that the office of President was flooded with a total of "6" candidates, a run-off election (costing the Membership $100,000) is now necessary. Because of the multitude of critical issues facing Lodge 7 over the next 3 years, it is important that our Members hear from both candidates in a face-to-face forum. This would be the best venue to show the Members who each candidate is, what they bring to the table and how they will go about best representing the women and men of the Lodge.
I submit to everyone to share this post so that it reaches as many Members as electronically possible and as a means of pressing the issue at hand.
The times ahead are going to be tough for our Officers. If you want to sit in this seat, now is the time to show the Members what they will be voting for. Now is not the time to hide behind anonymous posts or blatant lies.
I am easy to reach and look forward to having this opportunity. Time is of the essence, so the sooner we can get this done, the better for everyone involved.
Dean C. Angelo, Sr.
President
Fraternal Order of Police
Chicago Lodge 7
Awesome, can Dean get the sergeants.....I mean us new cars again?
Here's some advise for everyone that will vote (and there's not many that will)
Go talk to some of the guys/gals that have been screwed by this dept.
Go talk to those that are stripped.
Go talk to those that are having IPRA re-open investigations on them.
Talk to those that are having issues with the Medical Section.
Talk to those that have not had their IOD bills paid in over a year and now are facing credit report issues.
Ask them how Dean and the FOP have helped them.
Dean and his crew at the FOP have not helped anyone!!
I don't know what they do but it is NOT to represent the best interests of the membership!!!
Think I'm overreacting?
Ask some of those people affected.
F Dean Angelo!!!!
I went to almost every meeting in 2016 and I didn't like what I saw and what I heard one bit.
If Dean Angelo is concerned about 100k for a run off.. He didn't show concern or the least bit of discomfort spending 50k of our money for golfing shoes.
He never had a straight answer, we had civilians attending our FOP meetings (lawyers) and half the time he would be looking at them when questions were asked.
I don't know if that ever happened before, but I think they have no business attending our meetings.
Dean Angelo hasn't been on the street for what? 10 years?
He is OUT of touch.
The FOP works for us, it is our money they are making decisions with.
He needs to be OUT.
If anyone is stupid enough to vote for Dean - then you get what you deserve. Angelo had his chance & look where we're at.
On a side note - I cannot believe that Bella "won" again. IMHO Bella has been nothing but a con man BSer hanger on for the last 20 years and his condescending treatment of the police is disgusting - when's the last time that jag did any police work?
There didn't seem to be a lot of concern about $100K when they were giving "everyone" golf shoes.
Debate? C'mon. Dean, you had three years to show your mettle and, truth be said, you failed miserably. The contractual givebacks alone should have prevented you from getting more than two votes (yours and juniors). You were silent in the media and in bed with our mayor. You let him off the hook for at least 300 million in pension contributions. That number will continue to increase until the Chicago casino is up and running in how many years? Hey retirees did you read that?
The active guys better wake the fuck up. What will he give back next? Steady watch assignments? The sworn affidavit? Remember, this is the guy who ran to D.C. to see how he could assist the DOJ and then invited them into our home to speak with our members without counsel.
Graham has at least outlined a plan for contract negotiations. He is the only logical choice to represent us as our FOP president. Angelo had his shot and our union took giant steps backwards. Let's end this now and start to move forward again.
.....Anonymous said...
Never got my ballot. Called the fop and was told come in to vote. Explained that I had a trial the whole week and asked if they could resend a ballot and was told, too bad can't do anything. Great leadership we have!
3/12/2017 01:16:00 AM.....
Asshat, if you kept up with this blog, or the union, you would have known weeks ago the procedure for voting. Your fault not theirs.
How about putting the Donahue/Dougherty thing to rest already? Let's see, they were in office from 2002 to 2011. During that time numerous pension benefits were garnered. Top pay was achieved at 25 years, down from 30 years. Top pension was achieved at 29 years, down from 32 years. Our current work schedule was negotiated and put into place. The sworn affidavit was legislated in Springfield and negotiated into our contract. FOP health fairs were introduced. There were pretty steady increases in wages, duty availability, and uniform allowances. Healthcare costs remained constant for several years. Duty availability became pensionable. These are facts. Should I go on?
Wouldn't it be terrible if the union began to make these gains again? Why would anyone want to keep guys like this around?
Get the point?
Never got my ballot. Called the fop and was told come in to vote. Explained that I had a trial the whole week and asked if they could resend a ballot and was told, too bad can't do anything. Great leadership we have!
3/12/2017 01:16:00 AM
Come on really why can't you pick the ballet up before you head to court. Stop bitching to bitch.
And I'm not for the fop by any means but really you can't make your way over to the fop. How about on your lunch break during the trail?
Ray Casiano and Deano need to go back to patrol where they belong .
I believe many of The FOP members are not aware of the fact that Dean Angelo will be 63 and retired shortly. This is a problem. Spread the word. Kevin Graham was in full uniform the other day working in the district. When's the last time Dean Angelo did that?
Dean Dean the suckhole machine. I don't know Graham but you need to go. Your minions too like Bella and company. You guys had the opportunities of a lifetime to help this order and you guys turned pompous and wasted them. We are tired of you and your shenanigans. You've looked crazed for years now and junior is no prize either.
Members want a bylaw change so that winners go to the 3rd floor. That's fine with me but very few got 50% +1. I'm for a bylaw change that also includes a majority vote. Dean won by over 1,000 votes. 35% + more than Kevin graham. Why should we spend lodge money on a run off. Why is the Presidents spot 50% + 1?
From a previous post....
I am looking at the picture of the Blue Voice ticket and tryin to figure out who Graham brings upstairs? Does Bill Dougherty get 2nd VP, Rich Aguilar get 1st VP? Many guys that were elected by the membership will not see the light of day upstairs. Pat Murray won his spot and deserves to be up stairs where he was elected. Here is a crazy thought...Kevin Graham brings up Mike Shields to try and get some of his 1700 votes. Sounds like a bad re-run with all the same people fighting to get upstairs. Mark, Billy, Mike Shields, Rich and Sid will all be up there in some capacity. So how was this election about change? Atleast with Dean I know what I am getting. I'm done in 3 years and hope whoever wins that the 55-65 healthcare is in this next contract. This is goi g to be a tough choice, but my gut says Dean for this contract and term. Let's all remember that our last contract was negotiated by some of the Blue Voice team and when Dean was elected most of the contract was already negotiated.
Sometimes the misinformation you read on this blog is sickening...
Please people, do your own research.
This goof talks about voting Dean because he is concerned about the 55 & out. Well it was Mark Donahue and Bill Dougherty who fought for the 55 and out twice in contract negotiations with the City. The first time the City said no. The City didn't believe the numbers our union showed them that would be saved by implementing the 55 and out. The next contract our union hired an actuary to present the numbers to the City. The City then jumped on the offer. When we got the 55 and out it was FREE. The only thing Dean did was manage to allow the City to STEAL an extra 2% from us because the plan ALREADY SAVED THE CITY MILLIONS. That's right....The 55 and out doesn't cost the City a dime. The numbers showed that by replacing officers with seniority with new hires the City would save millions of dollars over a 10 year period and that the savings would continue because after 10 years those officers move to medicare and as time repeated itself the saving would go on indefinitely. So not only did the City give us the 55 and out, they doubled down on the savings by NOT REPLACING THE OFFICERS WHO RETIRED. (Don't believe me? Just look at SCC's post from the other day showing the # of officers paying into the pension). But then the City realized they could squeeze a little more out of us and DUMBASS DEAN went for it allowing the City to charge us 2%. So go ahead asshat and cast that vote for Dean. You will be lucky if it isn't costing you between 5 and 10% by the time you retire.
Anonymous said...
Collect the golf shoes, that should cover $25K
...or you can't get a refund on purchased votes
3/12/2017 12:42:00 AM
I used to work in the gift store. The store makes money even after paying fop 9k a month in rent. The losses on the golf outing and the picnic are more than offset by the 108k.
Remember when we threw Capparelli out of office? Who audits his expense accounts?
I hear someone is calling for a debate? That's a great idea! If Angelo or Graham refuses to debate live then I will vote for the other one. I voted for Shields. I have trouble voting for either Graham or Angelo. A debate would make things clearer.
Ken Hauser the top vote getter for trustee???? The same guy who has been on the pension board for decades voting to give our investments to the Vaneckos??? WE ARE DOOMED!!!
They should debate. We should be able to ask questions. 6-8pm at fop hall pick a date
CONGRATULATIONS MARTY🍾🍾
Enjoy a cigar and drink !!
Ferenzi and Bartlett are both going in the office so are Capparelli and Ryan being launched after the runoff?
You vote for Dean Angelo you will get a retiree as president. He'll be 63 in June. Something to really think about.
After what Graham, Donahue, Dougherty, and Aguliar did to Mike Shields how can he stand to be in the same room with them?
https://www.google.com/amp/chicago.suntimes.com/news/the-watchdogs-pension-funds-lost-millions-on-deals-with-daley-nephew-obama-pal/amp/ can not believe people still vote for donahue. He authorized our pension funds to go into daley naphew vanecko. Never forgot the speach. We need to get better return on our money. More than the fireman. Remeber that mark.
I had the pleasure of talking to Kevin Graham at the FOP St. Pats party last night. He is going to hire Joel DAlba from Ascher, Gittler and DAlba to negotiate our contract. He is going to hire Mark Donahue as our Springfield lobbyist. DAlba negotiated two contracts that both went to arbitration and that's where Kevin expects this contract to go. Mark is the most know fixture in Springfield due to all the years he has been involved with the FOP. He will bring up experienced guys who previously worked upstairs to do the grunt work. Good luck Kev
Kevin Graham is the puppet for Donahue and Dougherty. They all should have been charged for what they did to FOP and its membership. I would not let them walk my dead dog across the street. They have absolutely NO INTEGRITY.
Hey Tommy McD, back to Area Fun for you hahahaha! Are you going to try and hide in 18 again and work the same clout spot? Might as well try, you haven't done a lick of police work or much detecting your whole career! Wrigleyville foot guy, sweet lord!
Some 3,700 votes for president are up in the air. Votes that didn't go for Graham or Angelo. Possibly more if the active membership decides they want to take part in a process that protects their well being. A suggestion to Graham: get out and speak to the guys on the street before the run off.
Just have your law firm write a check. And why would it cost $100k?? Typical Dean lie.
Fop with all the Technology you can't find a better way to cast our votes??
Donahue? Are you people serious right now? Was bill Nolan not available? Lol. Once people are done they should be done.
Pat Murray?? Really????
If ever we needed a runoff, we need a recount and runoff right there. There's a reason this guy has been booted from multiple units. Do your homework people.
This run off come down to one simple question. Did Angelo forgo city pension payments? All over a " future" casino deal?
Can someone claiify my understanding of the election. If a person is elected to a post, does the president has the authority to dismiss him and appoint someone more to his liking? Who would get the increased salary, the elected or the appointed person?
I don't like the way Dean, pushed out the winners last election and brought in His People up to the office. I'm voting for Graham and if he does the same thing, we vote him out too!
You are right Bill and Mark sucked the life out of FOP and now they are back from the dead. Just know If Kevin gets in wont be running shit they will. I heard Dean asked Kevin to debate and he refused. Why is that this is modern day America its a run off let them face one another. I want to see a debate because i will show up with questions in hand. The hell with everyone lying for both sides .. LETS SEE A DAMN DEBATE..
Now that is funny look at all the money Shields cost the unit by suing and winning that same amount 100 thousand. Now the little fucker wants another chance. Thats a JOKE.....
No matter who is finally elected, Rahm is not bending over to provide any change to healthcare, wages, residency and will likely demand those strict discipline reforms foremost.
He's seen the FOP low voter interest now and sees no challenging task ahead.
One thing for sure is Rahm's Sharks will eat up a newcomer faster or leave it to his Arbiter for sometime in 2019, with that
at least 55 & Out can hang on a bit longer.
Send in your Ballot.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Dean Dean the suckhole machine. I don't know Graham but you need to go. Your minions too like Bella and company. You guys had the opportunities of a lifetime to help this order and you guys turned pompous and wasted them. We are tired of you and your shenanigans. You've looked crazed for years now and junior is no prize either.
3/12/2017 09:16:00 AM
Fully agree with you you are 100% correct Bella especially should not be allowed to be inside of that office no way no how you can have somebody from another administration who who has a big mouth that talks could you imagine the ID information he would spread text to everyone else he needs to go that man is really incredibly not trustworthy.
Graham removed Shields from office. Shields sued and got north of $100,000 that wasn't Kevin's fault. After his deposition the state was forced to settle because of how bad Kevin's deposition was . You cannot blame Kevin because the State FOP had shit Attorney's.
Least not, the GoFundMe by Dean. Least not, Dean rejected a debate with Dougherty. It all was within the last 3 years, how soon we all forget.
Dean is worried about money now? If so, do the right thing Dean and step aside. It's going to be an embarrassing loss for you. If you don't step aside apparently immediately then it really wasn't about the money, was it?
Anonymous said...
I don't like the way Dean, pushed out the winners last election and brought in His People up to the office. I'm voting for Graham and if he does the same thing, we vote him out too!
3/12/2017 01:15:00
Remember in the last run off Dougherty said if elected he said he would bring up ALL his guys. Look for Donahue to call all the shots on this board if he puppet is elected.
Blogger FOP Genius said...
Debate? C'mon. Dean, you had three years to show your mettle and, truth be said, you failed miserably. The contractual givebacks alone should have prevented you from getting more than two votes (yours and juniors). You were silent in the media and in bed with our mayor. You let him off the hook for at least 300 million in pension contributions. That number will continue to increase until the Chicago casino is up and running in how many years? Hey retirees did you read that?
The active guys better wake the fuck up. What will he give back next? Steady watch assignments? The sworn affidavit? Remember, this is the guy who ran to D.C. to see how he could assist the DOJ and then invited them into our home to speak with our members without counsel.
Graham has at least outlined a plan for contract negotiations. He is the only logical choice to represent us as our FOP president. Angelo had his shot and our union took giant steps backwards. Let's end this now and start to move forward again.
3/12/2017 08:46:00 AM
I voted for McGuire and am leaning towards Graham but I have reservations on Donahue and Dougherty back up stairs. But If kevin ducks a debate I will vote for Angelo.
Don't trust Angelo with our pension. We need Graham and Prieb in office.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
They should debate. We should be able to ask questions. 6-8pm at fop hall pick a date
3/12/2017 10:05:00 AM
The debate should be available on-line live. But not at the hall. Too many moron coppers would be making cat calls from audience. Maybe the president of the 100 club. He used to head up channel 7 here in Chicago.
How about putting the Donahue/Dougherty thing to rest already? Let's see, they were in office from 2002 to 2011. During that time numerous pension benefits were garnered. Top pay was achieved at 25 years, down from 30 years. Top pension was achieved at 29 years, down from 32 years. Our current work schedule was negotiated and put into place. The sworn affidavit was legislated in Springfield and negotiated into our contract. FOP health fairs were introduced. There were pretty steady increases in wages, duty availability, and uniform allowances. Healthcare costs remained constant for several years. Duty availability became pensionable. These are facts. Should I go on?
Wouldn't it be terrible if the union began to make these gains again? Why would anyone want to keep guys like this around?
Get the point?
#1 the overall pension funding dropped 6% by lowering the age. That hurt.
#2 Donahue let the city skate on a 25million dollar payment.
3# Donahue’s kids got jobs with the city clerks office did yours?
4# sworn affidavit bill was flawed because there is no enforcement mechanism. Not one person has been charged.
5# they signed the 55 and out with a sunset date. Mark got his whwere is mine.
6# the firemen won the pensionable duty availablity
7# The sun rose today tomorrow Donahue will take credit.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Fuck you dean I pay 1295.00 for health insurance you don't get my Vote
3/12/2017 06:45:00 AM
I pay 292 for Aetna. Whats wrong with you?
lol how about dean negotiating 400 new cars like that's a benefit. They would have to buy us cars anyway! and btw who gets the new cars?
Dean angelo is a joke if he is getting disability because he cannot be a police officer even light duty working at a desk. How in the world can he be FOP president? There is more desk work doing that than being light duty.
Guy is a sham! get rid of him
Who cares about the contract? Just hope negotiations drag out for 2 years so we can get an awesome retro, and I can buy new guns and ammo and m.r.e.s for the unrest that will follow VanDyke's aquittal.
Remember Graham out state lodge over 100,000 andour lodge 25000 with his antics and behaving ad a puppet in trying to remove shields. None of these idiots have a brain or a spine. We are doomed.
From Dean:
Dean Angelo Sr.
16 hrs ·
Due to the fact that the office of President was flooded with BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
I am easy to reach and look forward to having this opportunity. Time is of the essence, so the sooner we can get this done, the better for everyone involved.
Dean C. Angelo, Sr.
President
Fraternal Order of Police
Chicago Lodge 7
3/12/2017 08:21:00 AM
Dean,
Since you are soooo transparent, here's a couple of questions for the big debate: 1. How many tens of thousands of dollars did the FOP spend on lawyers in a failed effort to get you promoted in federal court. You remember that? You should. You still have the same lawyer. If you forgot, it's the case where the judge said you couldn't be in the lawsuit because your score was so low on the promotional test that there was no way you could be promoted. And you dare call yourself "Doctor!" aaannndddd, #2. You were disabled for over 10 years because of a knee issue. Why are you no longer disabled? Why did you immediately return to full active duty once the Pension Board finally finally scheduled a review of your case. Divine intervention? Tell us, Dean.
Does this mean Dean will take calls from retired members?
Second pic is jag off central. Dougherty, Gorman, esp. A bunch of one way, condescending standoffish pricks. Hope you don't need these guys. They'll act like you're wasting their time and your issue is unimportant. They treat P/Os like shit.
Pathetic FLOP !!!!
I heard that Graham already asks Shields for his support and Shields told him that he would have to publicly state why he had him removed from the State. Lets see if Graham actually come public to the membership on why he did what he did to remove Shields? I also heard that he wants guarantees that he will go upstairs to sit in the office that Pat Murray would have.
Someone asked for clarification about if the president can decide who will actually work at the FOP offices. The simple answer is yes, but he needs the Board of Directors approval.
The people who are elected serve on the Board of Directors and have a vote in everything that our Lodge does. How our money is spent. Political endorsements. Etc.
The people who work in the office are considered Field Reps who really have no control of any policies or procedures. They are supposed to do whatever the Board dictates.
Keep in mind that in some cases, Bella most recently, an elected official may not want to take on all of the responsibilities of a Field Rep who is on call 24-7 one or two days a week for police involved shootings, injuries, and strips.
This whole thing only becomes an issue when the Field Reps fail to perform. If Dean's picks, McDonough, Carter and Harvey did right by the membership nobody would give a shit if they were elected or not.
Finally, just how productive would the office be if the president was saddled with a group who was constantly at odds with him.
I have been on since 98. The best contract I got was from when Donahue was president. (16% over 4yrs after arbitration. We lost nothing)
The worst contract in my 18yrs has been from Dean.
This is the problem with democracy. The imbecile has the same vote as the person who does research on the candidates. Graham is a complete charlatan.
Does anyone know Dean has two kids on the job and a 90 year old retired father who was on the job? There is zero chance he will fuck his own family. He has my vote.
Everyone is saying Angelo sold us out in the last contract. Two thirds of us voted for the contract. Could someone explain to me how we are not at fault for the last contract? If you didn't like it why did you vote for it. I guess we are all cup cakes.
How ever you feel VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Talk is nothing but cheap shit, take action, VOTE!
Tell your co workers in roll call to VOTE!!!!!!!! Voting watch party fill them out then put them in the mail what ever it takes but VOTE!
Anonymous said...
Collect the golf shoes, that should cover $25K
...or you can't get a refund on purchased votes
3/12/2017 12:42:00 AM
Dean can't return his golf shoes they won't accept any sizes less then 5...
The only person to forgive the city for any money do to our pension was Mark Donahue. . Do your own homework!
Ken houser always seems to win at trustee but we never see him until election time ........ What does he do??
Finally, just how productive would the office be if the president was saddled with a group who was constantly at odds with him.
3/12/2017 06:10:00 PM
Really? You saying it was productive? Imagine how productive FOP could be if it weren't run by an evil cabal of lying, spying, two-faced, backstabbing office staff. And if it actually had field reps that did some fucking work. Sorry, wee Dean. You had your chance. You blew it!
Imagine how things could be if POLICE OFFICERS actually worked together for the betterment of ALL OF US rather than shitting all over each other all the fucking time. We could be formidable again. We can't be taken seriously with old Disability Dean. Face facts. We're a fucking joke until we get rid of him.
Disability Dean is DONE!! Do Nothing Dean, you need to retire. YOU SUCK!!
Fuck you dean I pay 1295.00 for health insurance you don't get my Vote
3/12/2017 06:45:00 AM
I pay 292 for Aetna. Whats wrong with you?
3/12/2017 03:05:00 PM
Nothing, other than being retired.
Yeah, he's all over FaceBook.
Just scroll down, he's signing a document
With his LEFT hand, then leaves office holding document.
He's a lefty, just like Obama. That's just facts, not a slur.
McDonnagh has lost all respect and dignity. He has no shame. Just look at his facebook posts.
Current administration sold out the new guys on pension changes which was never ever discussed or brought to the memberships attention, as far as the 4 /2 schedule the city of chgo wanted that scedule , not the flop. as far as raises go last contract when richie was still in , richie offered 16% over 4 yrs but the flop wasn't smart enough to grab it, then lehman bros went bust dragging the country into a recession and richie took the offer off the table. now the current administration remains silient as men and women get stripped and placed into a no pay status since they are guilty until proven innocent thus hurting their families. we are our own worst enemies, get involved , go to union meetings ask the hard questions or decertify the fop and get a real union. how much pain are you willing to put your families through until you have had enough and want real change, not bullshit, smoke and mirrors.
A college boy should know you can't buy unity or consensus
With a sport that divides most people. It just builds resentment.
If you have clubs, you have shoes. What about non-golfers?
Money better spent on family picnics over 2 weekends. This guy
Is lame (no pun intended) and getting fuzzy out of desperation.
I don't buy this grandfather-father-D.A.-son-daughter bullshit.
BTW, how did he play golf with a bum left knee?
Anonymous said...
The only person to forgive the city for any money do to our pension was Mark Donahue. . Do your own homework!
3/12/2017 07:54:00 PM
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Apparently, you don't follow your own advice. Do your homework! Dean allowed the City to duck a $173 million payment in 2016 and who knows how much more until the City Casino is built. Could be close to a billion dollars before it's up and running. Money we will never get back.
As for Donahue's forgiveness. The money was never ours to begin with and he forgave it so that we could get out of here three years sooner than we could in the past. Sounds pretty good to me. You want to stay here three more years than you have to?
Anonymous said...
Does anyone know Dean has two kids on the job and a 90 year old retired father who was on the job? There is zero chance he will fuck his own family. He has my vote.
3/12/2017 06:35:00 PM
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Zero chance? How about a 100% chance? He already negotiated Duty Availability away from his daughter who, in his words, is one of the "unborn" on the job.
But don't worry about her or junior. With all of the contractual givebacks, Rahm owes him more than a favor or two.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Does anyone know Dean has two kids on the job and a 90 year old retired father who was on the job? There is zero chance he will fuck his own family. He has my vote.
3/12/2017 06:35:00 PM
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Exactly, tell that to the PO's in 014 that had to wear the body camera where his son was on a special mission team on days while on the books on midnights for a great furlo pick without a body camera. That's a reason why furlo by watch changed. Your statement is a looonnnnnngggg stretch.
Do the "trustees" receive $600 per month from FLOP ?
No wonder the retirees have their claws on the door on Washington St.
Dean & Hauser ? what a couple !!!
Hey a debate is what we want who the hell wants to just give their vote away. a lot of shit can be exposed in a debate. For instance Kevin ass was kicked off the seat on the state level., I guess everyone has forgotten that day he waddled to the mic talking about Shields will be expelled from FOP he was lying and breaking a rule when he did it. The state president kick his ass out. He over stepped his boundary. I want to see a debate. like one blogger said its the american way. And besides I pay fucking dues and I want a damn debate.
Deans Accomplishments
#1 Bilked our pension fund out of $600,000.00 over 10 years while on disability from a softball injury but was able to hold down a full time position at the University at $90,000.00 / year and then miraculously comes off disability when issued an ultimatum by the pension board.
#2. Promised McDonough a Field Rep spot in exchange for his support during the last presidential runoff. When he won McDonough got his Field Rep spot in this pay to play scam. Proving our FOP is for sale to the highest bidders.
#3. Refused to allow election winners their Field Rep spots in the office and appointed people who did not even win their prospective election races that ignored the will of the membership and assembled friends an family field rep cast who rubber stamped his every wish..
#4. Supported the latest pension legislation intruded by the city and passed into law releiving the city of conforming with the actuarial recommendations to keep our pension properly funded. The defeat of our previous legislation that would have funded our pension at 90% by 2040 now funds our pension at 32% in 2040, kicks the can down the road until 2065 for 90% funding and cost the taxpayers an additional 20 Billion Dollars.
#5. Supported the legislation for the current stop report authored by the ACLU.
#6. $25,000 for golf shoes at the FOP Golf Outing.
#7. First time in the history of the FOP that legislation was never introduced during a three year term.
#8. Spent more money on attorneys than the previous administration when he campaigned on saving the members money on attorneys.
#9. Why would we want a retiree negotiating a contract for active members? Sets a bad precedent for FOP and sends the city a message that our union is run by retirees.
#10. The police cars he negotiated in our last contract never materialized, neither did the Casino. He is definately is in the mayors pocket.
#11. All of you who voted for Marty Preib will be wasting your vote for him if Kevin Graham does not get elected because Dean will squash anyone who campaigned against him.
#12. Created position of parliamentarian that cost the members $21,000.00 over the past three years and brought back Bill Nolan as the paid Past President even though he has not held that office for over 9 years costing the members another $21,000.00 over the past 3 years.
#13. Kevin has no family on the job so he cannot be threatened or cajoled by Rahm.
#14. His shear contempt for the healthcare cost for both active and retired members.
Deans history of lying to FOP members goes back to 2001 when he was on the contract negotiation committee and lied to the members that his team did not agree to a percentage being attached to our paychecks for healthcare. We voted the contract down, it went to the arbitrator who said your union lied to you, they did in fact sign a temporary agreement and you are stuck with the percentage attached to your paycheck. Dean and every last one of those FOP incumbents were voted out of office, including Dean. Dean is a snake and I was shocked when he got elected as president. Either coppers are stupid or Apathetic, lazy and plain just don't give a shit. Electing Dean was like trusting Dr. Kevorkian would prolong your life.
To add to Dean accomplishments
#15. Greg Bella had major lawsuit against him from FOP then in exchange for his support to Dean Greg was given inside job along with McDonough and guess what the lawsuit went away as part of agreement.
#16 Dean junior awarded detective,because he earned it meritorious lyrics. HOW DID THAT happen.
#17 Threw out 3 duly elected trustees voted in by the members of FOP and replaced them with people who could not have legally ran for the position or elected by the memberhip. How did that happen Dean.
#18. Brought in John Dineen as his parliamentarian another 21,000 dollars cost to the membership.
#19 Brought in Marlon Harvey and Keith Carter at Captains pay each another great cost to the membership. But put the actual elected people off to the side.
Officers is this what you want for your President, apparently NO because Dean lost a whole majority of his board and we only have one more to get rid of please vote we need to get a new change if you voted for anyone else than Dean your thought was change so PLEASE VOTE
This is the shit that people post who are not running for office that really makes me so maaaad . All this can be settled with a debate. You better believe when May comes I am going to submit a by law change that anyone who is running for president has to debate. This shit has to stop members just giving their votes away. I am so tired of the lies being told by both sides. Switching the subject for a moment someone on Facebook sent a post to me where Sid Davis called officers minions of Dean Angelo saying they are posting lies saying their is a debate taking place with Dean and Kevin . So I did some investigating and went on Dean Angelo Facebook page where he posted that he extended Kevin a invite to come to the lodge to face the members in a Town setting where members can ask questions. so far no answer. So here is what I want to say "fuck u Kevin and Fuck u SID DAVIS for calling us minions. If Dean sent a invite to Kevin fat ass he should a least respond. Me and my friends will be at FOP on FRIDAY at 1800 hours to see if he shows up and if he does not show we will not vote for him. And LITTLE SID go back into your little hole with the Ground HOGS who only come out to let us know if we have six more weeks of cold weather.
Rham is DeaNo
DeaNo is Rham
Poor Jr your Commander slot is gone!!!
Dean will win! Because Coppers don't give a fuck and wont vote
Thank you Signed Mayor Rham
Does anyone know Dean has two kids on the job and a 90 year old retired father who was on the job?
Right and Rhams Uncle was the Police So WTF
Rham and DeaNo have Screwed US tooo
This is the shit that people post who are not running for office that really makes me so maaaad . All this can be settled with a debate. You better believe when May comes I am going to submit a by law change that anyone who is running for president has to debate. This shit has to stop members just giving their votes away. I am so tired of the lies being told by both sides. Switching the subject for a moment someone on Facebook sent a post to me where Sid Davis called officers minions of Dean Angelo saying they are posting lies saying their is a debate taking place with Dean and Kevin . So I did some investigating and went on Dean Angelo Facebook page where he posted that he extended Kevin a invite to come to the lodge to face the members in a Town setting where members can ask questions. so far no answer. So here is what I want to say "fuck u Kevin and Fuck u SID DAVIS for calling us minions. If Dean sent a invite to Kevin fat ass he should a least respond. Me and my friends will be at FOP on FRIDAY at 1800 hours to see if he shows up and if he does not show we will not vote for him. And LITTLE SID go back into your little hole with the Ground HOGS who only come out to let us know if we have six more weeks of cold weather.
I think that is the point. Dean has not contacted Kevin Graham. Dean had has minions put out false information that there was a debate Wednesday night when there is nothing that has been set up. This is how big of a douche bag Dean Angelo is. Stand by though it does get worse.
How ironic!!!!!
In 2001 Dean Angelo and his crew were responsible for a percentage being attached to our paycheck for health insurance. In 2014 Dean and his new crew are responsible for the 2% being added to our 55 and out insurance. This guy either does not give a shit about copppers or is just too dumb to realize the city is fucking us at every oppertunity, in either case he needs to go.
Every active member who did not get a ballot should call the FOP, get their correct address on file and vote in this runoff election for the active member to represent active members.
Don't be surprised when Shields, McGuire, Merck and Cruz all endorse Kevin Graham after hearing about the asshole move by Dean who hired a firm to leak a bullshit story to the media claiming Kevin lived outside the city. You can bet that Dean will reach out to Rahm to push this story in the media so he can continue his destruction of our union just like the democrats who are pushing for the destruction of our city by opposing law and order and the police. If you are a Trump supporter I know you will vote for Kevin because you have the ability to see through the bullshit. Dean bought the last election by promising McDonough a field rep spot paid for by the members. How much will he cost the members in this election if he is successful???? You know he will be promising each of the unsuccessful presidential candidates a field rep spot for their support. It is high time the members put an end to this practice of buying elections with our money, something that was proposed during Deans administration and he rejected it. I guess he knew he would need to use this pay to play scam again. Dean will be a retiree in 3 months and has no business representing active members.
Donahue and Dougherty are back to leaching off the FOO???
Fuck this shit. I'm out.
Canceling my dues.
Fuck this union. Fuck this department. Fuck this city.
Apparently, you don't follow your own advice. Do your homework! Dean allowed the City to duck a $173 million payment in 2016 and who knows how much more until the City Casino is built. Could be close to a billion dollars before it's up and running. Money we will never get back.
As for Donahue's forgiveness. The money was never ours to begin with and he forgave it so that we could get out of here three years sooner than we could in the past. Sounds pretty good to me. You want to stay here three more years than you have to?
3/13/2017 10:15:00 AM
Besides allowing the duck of the $173 Million Dean relieved the city from conforming with the actuarial determined additional contributions every year until 2040 when our pension would have been funded at 90%. Under the legislation Dean fought for and is now in place our pension fund will be funded at 32% in 2040 and cost the taxpayers of Chicago an additional 20 Billion dollars.
#20 After Dean got rid of the three trustees the Constitution and By-Laws of FOP7 states that the next highest vote getter for that position will be offered the spot and you will gown the list until those positions are filled. That did not stop Dean who ignored the list and choose who he wanted to fill those vacancies.
#21 Always remember to forget The friends that proved untrue.
But never forget to remember Those that have stuck by you.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Donahue and Dougherty are back to leaching off the FOO???
Fuck this shit. I'm out.
Canceling my dues.
Fuck this union. Fuck this department. Fuck this city.
3/15/2017 02:35:00 PM
I won't miss you, I know Donahue and Doherty won't miss you and I know the readers of this blog won't either. Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Does anyone know Dean has two kids on the job and a 90 year old retired father who was on the job?
Right and Rhams Uncle was the Police So WTF
Rham and DeaNo have Screwed US tooo
3/14/2017 12:09:00 AM
Are Dean or one of his kids responsible for the go-fund-me page for their doggy. Seems that if one of them started the go-fund-me for a dog they should be facing the same IAD CR# that they got on Sgt. for trying to help out a black family who needed help.
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