Speedy Justice
- A man who beat his murder case when prosecutors failed to give him a speedy trial was killed minutes after leaving Cook County Jail on Monday night, according to authorities.
Kamari Belmont, 23, was being held on murder and robbery charges after he allegedly shot a man during a robbery and robbed another man a few hours later in 2015. The man he shot died weeks later.
Cook County prosecutors dropped the murder charges the end of January after allowing too much time to elapse under the state’s speedy trial statute, according to court records and Belmont’s attorney. The robbery charges remained and Belmont was ordered held on a $100,000 bond.
At 5:30 p.m. Monday, a friend of Belmont posted the required $10,000 on the bond and Belmont was released at 11:12 p.m., according to jail officials.
Belmont was a few block of the jail when a white SUV pulled up to his car on California Avenue and someone inside started shooting, police said. Belmont was hit several times.
We can already hear the wailing:
- If only the police / sheriff / county kept him in jail, he'd be alive today!
But they didn't, and he isn't.
But what's this "speedy trial" loophole? If you can delay, delay and delay again, waiting for the always brilliant and on-the-ball Cook County States Attorney to miss a deadline, you get to walk on murder charges? Is there any sort of leave to re-file? There is no statute of limitations on murder, but seemingly endless opportunities to await a misstep that will get you into the 80% that get away with murder in Cook County.
Well, until you venture outside the walls of the jail that is. Out there, someone may be waiting.
But what's this "speedy trial" loophole? If you can delay, delay and delay again, waiting for the always brilliant and on-the-ball Cook County States Attorney to miss a deadline, you get to walk on murder charges? Is there any sort of leave to re-file? There is no statute of limitations on murder, but seemingly endless opportunities to await a misstep that will get you into the 80% that get away with murder in Cook County.
Well, until you venture outside the walls of the jail that is. Out there, someone may be waiting.
Labels: crime
posted by SCC at 12:09 AM
133 Comments:
Apparently lllinois still has the death penalty.
He was on the verge of turning his life around. Now he is dead. Folks will miss him and his ready smile. RIP Street Warrior.
Kim Foxx failed. She could have saved him from mean streets of Chicago.
Wasnt the report that he was nearly a mile away from the jail? Hardly minutes away unless i read a report wrong.
Shitbird's fambly is pissed because
there were no Police involved.
Oh wait trot out that old
Police Death Squads wearing
black-face meme. That'll
fix everything.
Over-Modulated Bull Horn Yeller:
"We need to make da Po-leece treat US
with respec' an' shit!"
Because they are surely showing
brotherly love to each other.
Right?
Off Topic: Does anyone know how Social Security works with our retirement? I know our benefit is reduced because of our pension (how much is it reduced?) Also, can your spouse collect her full Social Security amount even if we collect our pension? Thanks for any help!
Drive-by, Targeted???? Either way, justified.....
Is this an example of community restorative justice?
He sure pissed somebody off real good. No loss. Case closed.
Obviously it was a setup. And it was pulled off successfully without an innocent citizen being hit by a stray bullet.
I'm sure these assclown asa's made the dets sweat to the last second of the 48 hour rule before approving charges and in the end they screw the pooch. The ending of this is so awesome though.
10 K bond , Who has 10 grand around to bond out. Paid all with tainted 5 and 10 dollr bills. One less parasite. The new county SA FOX-Trot was told the family wants it to be paid to help the CPS. Just like the 22 yoa punk ass rapper the governor met with.
The county gets to keep 1 K/ 10 % of the bond. The cash was still not deposited and when the felon got popped. Motion state-Nolle Pros. Rahm called the popped felon' family when he found out. He was an honor CPS student so the city will pay for planting him in Mt. Greenwood, Mt Hopeless.
The Star Chamber, ghetto style.
so... the speedy trial b.s. doesn't apply for the robbery charge but did for the murder ???
The wheels of street justice moved swiftly.
I heard he wanted to home school his born out of wedlock son also... too bad, some medical school is gonna have to look else where
Ha! Ha! Ha!
I love a good bed time story!
Good riddance to this fool! ⚰️⚱️
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I laugh heartily yet I cry not..... AAAAAAAA! BWAHAHAHA!!!
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They probably elected to proceed on the murder. Their was no term on the robbery.
off Topic
Welcome to the club you are about to get the f-u--ing of you life.
Your SS pension will be about half.
The police will be found at fault for this. Failure to protect an offender/victim.
Where I work this is called judicial malpractice. But Alvarez and Fox and those involved are not penalized in any way, shape or manner. Stupid women.
Another Rhomicide in Chiraq!
Kimmy Foxxx Tom Fart, this one is on you.
Less than 500' from County property line.
That's one way of reducing crime.
Fire with fire.
How sweet.
He should have taken a cab.
Justice was served up properly, I guess somebody cared about his victim.
There is justice in Chicago just not from the justice system. Way to go miscreants! Another one for the 80% unsolved murders.
You can put it on the boaaaaaaarrrrd YESSSSSS!
Another feel good story with a happy ending!!
Your SS check after paying mandatory Medicare Part B will be approx. $128. a month. Vote Democratic! Your wife can collect her full SS check. When you die and she collects the widow pension, her SS check gets cut too. Believe it. Remember, Vote Democratic!
Well hell. The dude that kilt him should turn himself in. Maybe he can get the same deal his victim got.
OT-
http://www.officer.com/news/12313333/photo-new-oakland-police-chief-gets-in-fender-bender
Off Topic: Does anyone know how Social Security works with our retirement?
Your spouse gets their full amount, last time I checked because of our pension S.S. benefits are reduced by about 40%
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off Topic: Does anyone know how Social Security works with our retirement? I know our benefit is reduced because of our pension (how much is it reduced?) Also, can your spouse collect her full Social Security amount even if we collect our pension? Thanks for any help!
3/09/2017 12:34:00 AM
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You lose 60 % or your benefit, which means you get 40%. Your wife gets here full benefit, but if she dies first and her benefit is higher instead of getting her full benefit, that is also reduced by 60 %. Sad but true.
O/T To 12:34am You get less than a 1/3 of what your suppose to get because of the pension and your wife can collect her full benefit.Only catch is that you get penalized if you are still working before 66 yrs old and collecting.Anything you made over I believe $14000 you pay back a dollar for every two dollars you make over it. So if working and collecting your pension its best to wait till 66 yrs old then no penalty.Check out the SS web site or call them. They are very helpful which is almost hard to believe.
Things that make you go hmmmm?
Some Det needs to be looking at that "friend" that posted the bond.
Who else knew he was getting released?
Not too many people in the chain that knew.
Hey boys and girls, just wanted to say if you haven't voted yet don't forget to come on down to the hall and vote on Friday. And while you are reading this I would like to share one other endorsement I received that I forgot to share with you. Our own Mayor Rahm Emanuel has endorsed me. That's right! Here is a quote him from the Sun Times:
After the unanimous vote, Emanuel rose from the rostrum to recognize Angelo, with whom the mayor forged a new and productive partnership that was a stark contrast from Emanuel’s contentious relationship with Shields.
“Dean has been a true partner for the city and his members,” he said.
“When we got to a few points, we would exchange phone calls and move our collective teams to see the overall forest — not the trees. This is a win-win for the city.”
And just so you don't think I'm making this stuff up here is the link
http://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/city-council-approves-police-contract/
So as you see Rahm loves me too. He said if it wasn't for me the City NEVER would have gotten that 2% for the 55 and out, or the tier system for our insurance, or saved huge on that duty availability stipend. Anyway, I just want you all to know I'm confident we can keep the 55 and out for around only 5 or 6% in this next contract and just so the current recruits have something to feel good about I'm gonna let Rahm take away the Uniform Allowance for everyone hired after the new contract begins. That way the current recruits will feel like they got something too! Oh, and don't worry about the crappy vehicles either. I called Rahm and he said in the next contract we can have 450 new vehicles. I told him we were going to need a little more from him so he agreed to throw in 75 new bicycles and a dozen segways. Anyway, I have to run. I'm headed to Golfsmith to pick out the golf shoes for the upcoming FOP golf outing. A couple of the aldermen said the Nike's ran a little small. See you on Friday!!
Off Topic: Does anyone know how Social Security works with our retirement? I know our benefit is reduced because of our pension (how much is it reduced?) Also, can your spouse collect her full Social Security amount even if we collect our pension? Thanks for any help!
3/09/2017 12:34:00 AM
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If you have enough quarters, the WEP reduces your social security by 2/3's.
It does not affect your spouse.
Make an appointment at one of the Social Security Offices around and they tell you everything you need to know down to the penny.
With an appointment your wait is appox 15 minutes.
The Democratic Party works in strange ways!
Hello ... to the troll... who made the social security question on benefits....
You are a troll.... or the reason why we vote the same people in fop... your ignorance is obviously bliss.....go do another is
Private valium
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off Topic: Does anyone know how Social Security works with our retirement? I know our benefit is reduced because of our pension (how much is it reduced?) Also, can your spouse collect her full Social Security amount even if we collect our pension? Thanks for any help!
3/09/2017 12:34:00 AM
ssa.gov
The guys shooting him from white SUV were just funnin
Kimmy is already blaming her predecessor for this.....sounds a lot like "I din do nuffin" or obama, take your pick.
Does anybody else think the Bond was only a ploy to get him out so he COULD be killed?
Whoever was involved in picking him up was in on the setup. Ill bet the shooters vehicle was in wait the entire time.
Justice was ultimately served, but by what evil faction? This has all the ingredients of a "hit" Is justice so far away from out courts, that justice can only be meted out by a street gang?
When U listen to Fools...The Mob Rules....
God doesn't believe in nolle process.
Answer to Social Security Question
My social security was reduced by about 40℅. My wife collects her full benefits. So we get my pension, her full SS, my reduced SS.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off Topic: Does anyone know how Social Security works with our retirement? I know our benefit is reduced because of our pension (how much is it reduced?) Also, can your spouse collect her full Social Security amount even if we collect our pension? Thanks for any help!
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From what I can recall the Long & short of it- you don't get it SS if this was your only job. If you have enough quarters put in (at least 8 I think) from previous employment you will get something. Your spouse is not affected by it. If she worked and put in to SS, she'll get her check like anybody else. Again, this is what I remember- I may get corrected on this and that would be welcome-it's been awhile,getting old brother/sister. Good luck.. P.S. -put as $ as u can in deferred comp.
Check who bonded this dead assclown out!
Unless this braindead ass clown called to tell everyone he was getting out, who knew?
Wait, this is Shitcago and we all know the SUV's be rolling around all day like stealth bombers in da sky.
Refueling as needed on da run, staying deep in the event territory, bang bang he got shot down, bang bang he hit the ground, bang bang, another assclown done hit da ground!
Move along folks, just justice being served in da hood. Pay backs, dey a bitch......
ss reduced by approx 2/3. don't know about spouse.
Seems to me Justice was served. I am good with it. One less scumbag on this earth. Someone else did what the "Justice System" FAILED TO DO!
Anonymous said...
Off Topic: Does anyone know how Social Security works with our retirement? I know our benefit is reduced because of our pension (how much is it reduced?) Also, can your spouse collect her full Social Security amount even if we collect our pension? Thanks for any help!
3/09/2017 12:34:00 AM
Normally in Illinois if you get a pension and are eligible for SS (enough quarters)you would only get roughly 40% of what you were entitled to from SS thanks to Rostenkowski. IF you had enough years of what SS considered 'substantial income'(very close to working another full-time job paying SS for the required amount of years--roughly 20)your 40% SS is increased accordingly based upon the number of eligible 'substantial income' years.
Don't confuse SS eligible to 'receive' SS with SS eligible years to have your 40% increased by 'substantial income' years for the slight bumps up. Many/most people 'on the job' normally just qualify to receive the 40% of which they would normally receive if they didn't have a (CPD) pension.
It doesn't affect your spouses SS unless she likewise is in the same category. (i.e. eligible for SS AND also receiving the stipulated pension income)
Finally, there's also increase(s)in the amount of SS you can receive based upon when you decide to take it after eligibility. Good Luck sir/madam. STAY SAFE
Is this new "speedy trial" rule for only certain kinds of people? A new Kim Foxxxxx rule?
Heard that he was expecting it...had some sort of makeshift "vest" strapped around his body under his clothes...books or something like that? Lol...sorry, makes me giggle a little.
Karma is a b****
All's well that ends well
Your social security is reduced by 60% , if U have a CPD pension , unless U have over 20years in the private sector paying into S/S , the penalty is reduced . I worked
full time for 8 years after i left/retired from CPD & paid into S/S, this reduced my
penalty some what . This Penalty is called the Wind Fall Elimination act of 1986 ? This was passed by a Democratic Congress because they felt receiving a City Government Pension & a S/S Government pension was a windfall ?? Thank U Mr. Rostenkowski .A lot of Teachers R also effected by this, & of course Fireman . As of know my wife's S/S is not effected by my CPD pension, but i understand that when she starts to receive a widows pension from the city, then her S/S pension will B penalized .
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off Topic: Does anyone know how Social Security works with our retirement? I know our benefit is reduced because of our pension (how much is it reduced?) Also, can your spouse collect her full Social Security amount even if we collect our pension? Thanks for any help!
3/09/2017 12:34:00 AM
Gets a little complicated. Go to social security website. Type in Windfall Elimination Provision.
This story was picked up by the Drudgereport.com, so it has now gone International. Perhaps it will deter those seeking a Sanctuary City. Rahm will welcome you with open arms if you are illegal; but the "Community" may kill you. Sanctuary looks better in San Francisco. Baby "G"
Now THAT'S what I call a "positive community interaction"!
Peace out, dirtbag!
https://youtu.be/QflkLp2f6uc
Granny Clampet killing scooters in oakland
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off Topic: Does anyone know how Social Security works with our retirement? I know our benefit is reduced because of our pension (how much is it reduced?) Also, can your spouse collect her full Social Security amount even if we collect our pension? Thanks for any help!
Your wife will get her full benefit. However, you will only collect about half of yours because of a pesky little amendment to the Social Security Laws by that fine upstanding Illinois Congressman Dan Rostenkowski. It's called The Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) and it was passed because Washington felt that public servants like us, made too much money with our fat pensions, therefore we didn't need full benefits. Of course, the politicians who passed this, still to this day, collect multiple pensions because, of course, they need and deserve them right? Secondly, if your wife dies before you do, you get none of her benefits, thanks again to Mr. Rostenkowski and his fat cat buddies.
Momma gonna tell the press what a good boy he was and that the polices just arrested him because he be black, then she will file a multi million dollar law suit against the police, the county and the state. Of course Dart and Rahm will quickly settle and somehow place blame on the police.
Anonymous said...
Off Topic: Does anyone know how Social Security works with our retirement? I know our benefit is reduced because of our pension (how much is it reduced?) Also, can your spouse collect her full Social Security amount even if we collect our pension? Thanks for any help!
Social security has a calculator on its site. You need to plug in your withholdings by the years withheld to determine your benefit. Hopefully, you can get the amounts from the SS's site if you did not keep the statements. Since my wife is a school teacher with CPS her SS amount will be reduced too. I was able to come up with amounts for both of us. Not sure how our pension will affect your wife.
Give the site a try.
Off Topic: Does anyone know how Social Security works with our retirement? I know our benefit is reduced because of our pension (how much is it reduced?) Also, can your spouse collect her full Social Security amount even if we collect our pension? Thanks for any help!
It is cut approx in half. So if you have worked a side job or several side jobs and you have paid enough into SS then you may be entitled to 500$ a month. But since you have a "Government Job" it will be around 250$. You can thank Dan Rostenkowski for that one.
Kimesha blamming Alverez...
>>> From article: A man who beat his murder case when prosecutors failed to give him a speedy trial ... <<<
+++ SCC: 'But what's this "speedy trial" loophole? +++
No Offense SCC, but that 'Speedy Trial Loophole' is the VI Amendment to the US Constitution. In fact it's the first sentence: 'In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial...'
IIRC, in Illinois the defendant HAS to ask for a speedy trial during arraignment when entering his plea. Then the clock starts ticking for both sides. The 'clock time' is set by State Law. You can't invoke that right after you've asked for continuances. (this is my understanding of the law. your mileage may vary)
So in this guy's case -- and that'd be The Dead Guy LOL -- it appears the CCSA screwed the pooch big time.
an aside: Back in the 1980's I had to go to the old Traffic Court downtown for a Traffic Ticket (can't recall for what now, but it was NOT criminal). Before I could say anything the Judge looked at my Ticket and said: 'Case Dismissed, the defendant's 6th Amendment right to a Speedy Trial has been violated' (The court date was a few months after I got the ticket). I had no idea how that happened but I sure was a happy camper when I put my DL back in my wallet. How the Law's been revised since then, I don't have a clue. Maybe the Judge just wanted to piss someone off that day.
Foxx really knows how to improve the states attorney office, 3 months in and she already has a huge mistake on her hands that I am sure she will blame on her predecessor. Does it really matter?
The only justice left in Chicago is street justice.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Wasnt the report that he was nearly a mile away from the jail? Hardly minutes away unless i read a report wrong.
3/09/2017 12:31:00 AM
Huh? How long do you think it takes to drive a mile? In fact, you can walk it in minutes ....
Boy George says...."Karma, Karma, Karma, Karma, Karma, Kameleon........you come and goooooooo, you come and go oh-oh-oooooh!!!!"
More speedy "law and order" "Obey the laws" type justice President Trump is ahaed of the game:
Illegal border crossings decrease by 40 percent in Trump's first month, report says
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/09/illegal-border-crossings-decrease-by-40-percent-in-trumps-first-month-report-says.html
Then of course we have the dishonest fake news in Chicago trying to rile up the illegal criminals and their pathetic supporters:
Could dramatic immigration workplace raids make a comeback under Trump?
Business
Could dramatic immigration workplace raids make a comeback under Trump?
President Donald Trump's plans to aggressively enforce the nation's immigration laws haven't specified what that will look like inside the workplace, prompting some employee rights groups to dust off decade-old raid-training manuals. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, part of the Department of.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-workplace-raids-primer-0309-biz-20170308-story.html
The story tells how the proud men and women protecting out border are finally able to do their jobs, now rahm you have stood up and disobeyed many federal laws protecting the illegal criminals, even going so low as to give millions in Chicago taxpayers rebate money to hire lawyers to keep the criminals safe here. Come on rahm we are set to lose billions in federal dollars some of that money is to be used for law enforcement which rahm you and the others obviously detest. WWRD What will rahm do when the feds visit city hall not the scared type but the team of AG Jeff Sessions, quick find the hidden closet with the wedding dress hide!
Then I open the "yellow paper" the sale paper clear ridge reporter and rep marty sandoval is quoted as saying that no businesses from Illinois should build the federally mandated wall otherwise they will not get business here! LOL surely marty you jest! The state has not paid its bills for how long? Tell you what I will make a bid to build that wall and help out so my employees can work and get paid!Lastly Marty you and rest keep talking about immigrants get it through your head what part of illegal immigrant do you not comprehend?
Dicks gonna work real hard on this one. Sounds like fodder for Loevy
Hahahhahah. Foxxxxx is blaming Alvarez
Well...bye.
Anonymous said...
The Star Chamber, ghetto style.
3/09/2017 01:59:00 AM
World Star Chamber!
Maybe the lack of speed was a way to save the taxpayers money long-term. No trial, no trial costs, no additional jail/prison time, etc. Now they can investigate this murder and run through the process again, if they identify the shooter.
Don't know if its written or unwritten S.O.P. with Cook County States Attorney. If an A.S.A. lost a case due to "term" the A.S.A. lost his/her job. Pointing fingers at previous administration has noting to do with it.
Later, Retired 640
No trial, no paper to file. -Dirty Harry
For the person wanting Social Security information. The reduction is based on a lot of factors. I worked full time for 28 years before becoming CPD and my benefit was cut almost in half. You can't figure it on line, you have to go there. Also, what I found out when going to SS, not all agents even know how to figure deductions. So, I had to go back twice. It's a daunting, unfair process.
Former Assistant Attorney General here. Speedy trial is constitutional. If the defense seeks a continuance, the time does not run against the state. However, some games can be played by the defense, such as, when the state is ready, and has its witnesses, ask for a continuance. Sure the time doesn't run, but how long before the state can get all the ducks in a row again?
I am curious how the robbery wasn't speedy trialed out? Was he not charged yet?
In any case, justice won out in the end.
special fed ed fat head
down in springfield requesting tuff sentencing laws
who did he back for cook county states attorney yes kids kim sly fox
her belief to many colored folks in jail
Word of his release traveled fast through the ghetto.
Chicago Values a good move.
It's called The Belmont Stop.
Funny coincidence of sorts;
I was watching the season finale of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia last night.
In the final scene, the gang is dancing around a jukebox to a funky little tune I remember from '80's, the first stanza of the song fit the Kamari Belmont story perfectly:
The Tom Tom Club - Genius of Love
https://youtu.be/6VL94XuyW0w
Foxx blames her predecessor. Shocking. She is distinguishing herself as a perfect fit in the Cook County Dem Party. There is sure to be a lot more blaming to come.
I wonder what kinda punishment a State attorney receives for this kinda of screw up?
SPAR
written reprimand
suspension for a week
As usual the name of the person screwing up at the State attorney office is not known!
Do we know if may be the attorney was paid off to screw up?
Does that attorney have a supervisor who tracks these cases?
BUT when the State attorney go after an officer we get awesome news conferences in the lobby of 26 and CAL with the attorney in their best of the rack suit smiling and profiling.
NO comment for the cameras from FOXX???
media is half ass as usual!
in the words of our esteemed former Secretary of State, and Democratic presidential candidate......"what difference does it make?"
I highly doubt ANYONE could be that lucky with a targeted attack and especially them having the patience to wait all afternoon for his release.
This was likely another random incident among other gang members seeing gim in their territory imo.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off Topic: Does anyone know how Social Security works with our retirement? I know our benefit is reduced because of our pension (how much is it reduced?) Also, can your spouse collect her full Social Security amount even if we collect our pension? Thanks for any help!
My brothers was reduced by 50%.
I get a CPD and my wife still collects her full SS benefits of around $1800 a month
Don't understand this case. Murder cases routinely go well beyond 2 years. In fact the few I have been involved in were all older than 2 years
Only thing I can see happened is that from say one the defendant demanded a speedy trial at EVERY court date and he never asked for a continuance, but that should have set off a red flag
Something's not right. You drop the murder charge because he didn't get a speedy trial but don't drop and keep a robbery charge that was part of the murder or one that happened within hours of the murder. This needs to.be checked out and explained
Let me guess, " The Counties Fault" $$
Now you know that criminals are getting away with murder and much, much more!
Heard Foxxxxxxwinkle this morning blaming the shit on Alvarez. Said it took too long for her office to bring to trial. LMAO!!!! Already learning REALLY quick how to play the game and pass the buck.
First, that is one heck of a "friend" who posts ten grand to get you out, but doesn't give ya a ride home. Hmmm. Maybe it was the folks targeting him for death who bailed him out eh? Gee, looks like a Samuel L Jackson movie I just saw!
Regardless, prosecutors are Soooo used to pleas and to delaying tactics from the defense that they are taken off guard by defense attorneys that DO demand a speedy trial. Add to that factor that the LAST thing the currnt corrupt crop of Bar Members wans is for the right to a jury trial, much less a speedy one, be INCORPORATED. Chicago already blew it for the progressives when Otis and company sought Incorporation and GOT IT for the right to arms....doing so with the right to trial by jury, speedy trial, would see a whole lot of politicians allowing that to happen face white SUVs rolling down the street toward them!!
The worst part? Most people reading this have NO idea what any of it means. And yes, I do mean COPS too. You think you have a enumerated Constitutional RIGHT to a trial? to a Speedy trial? Well, yeah, on FEDERAL CHARGES you do, but ONLY on federal charges. Gee, why is it Rahm has stood down almost entirely the gun prosecutions, demanding FEDERAL prosecutions instead? Hmmm, gee, I WONDER......
Doctrine of Selective Incorporation. Learn about it. Yes, it really DOES actually friggin matter. I warn you though, it WILL piss you OFF to no end!
Anonymous said...
Off Topic: Does anyone know how Social Security works with our retirement? I know our benefit is reduced because of our pension (how much is it reduced?) Also, can your spouse collect her full Social Security amount even if we collect our pension? Thanks for any help!
I was one of the fortunate ones who qualified for SS. I was suppose to collect $898.00 at age 62, but they cut it down to $489.00.Thanks Rostenkowski and and Democrats!!!! That still isn't bad...hey, it will pay for my Medicare. As far as your wife, if she doesn't work for the City, State, etc, she should get her full amount.
How long before his momma sues the courts for his death? Tic-Toc - you know its gonna happen.
Word is COMM JS of 010 is putting a plan together to for CPD to escort prisoners home from cook county jail so we can keep the shoots and drops down. He is asking special Ed for approval and whether or not it can be done without generating ISR's.
To answer the "off topic" question about Social Security benefits for Chicago Police Officers; As you may already know, with "thanks" from former Illinois Congressman Dan Rostenkowski (who also became a convicted felon, now deceased), as a remedy to prop up an already failing Social Security System, Rostenkowski thought it "wasn't fair" that Chicago Police Officers, by law, receive a guaranteed pension, and also be entitled to Social Security benefits. Good ole' Rosty thought this amounted to "double dipping". So Rostenkowski proposed, and was successful, in ending Chicago Police officers contribution into the Social Security system, thus denying Chicago Police officers any claim to Social Security benefits at retirement. And as we all now know, due to the erosion of our pension, after years of poor contract negotiations and give backs, that "guaranteed pension", (that once paid your full medical benefits after retirement, until the day you died), is a shadow of what it once provided retirees. If however, you once had YEARS of working in a full time job BEFORE you became the Police (or work a side job that pays into Social Security), and provided that all your Quarters are paid up in the Social Security System, (that amounts to about 10 years straight, of payments into the system), then, regardless of what Social Security benefits you've earned and should rightfully have coming to you, you are "rewarded" (sarcasm), with you receiving only 40% of those benefits. Social Security keeps 60% of your earned benefits, merely because of the fact that you are a Chicago Police Officer with a policeman's pension. That means if you should be receiving $1000.00 per month in Social Security benefits,you now will receive $400.00 per month instead, with Social Security keeping $600.00 per month of your benefits that you already paid for, just because you are a Chicago Police Officer! Thank you Dan Rostenkowski.
Justice has been served !
Answer to Social Security Question
My social security was reduced by about 40℅. My wife collects her full benefits. So we get my pension, her full SS, my reduced SS.
Thanks for the reply!
Thanks for the replies regarding Social Security and how it works along with a spouse's Social Security!
(OT) looks like fox world news following this "insignificant" blog the trains missing guns:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/09/chicagos-violent-gangs-looting-freight-cars-filled-with-guns.html
Heats on now watch the heavy railroad police presence magically appear!
Ninety-three (93) comments about some ghetto miscreant who was dispatched to the next level by another future toe tag. Get over it! It is done and over. Forget all the conspiracy theories and conjecture. It was a bit of luck for us, so adios and goodbye! I say, "Next!"
I heard his last words were, "Damn! That freaking GPS told me to take California southbound! I shoulda taken 31st Street to Western!"
Nice! Speedy justice! One less asshole out there now
"World Star Chamber?" That made me giggle. Good movie, btw.
Natural selection. Thanks Darwin.
Lots of comments explaining the speedy trial.
Seems like the actual meaning is misunderstood.
Foxx has no business holding this position.
Her incompetence is becoming apparent.
Although, she fits right in with the "Chicago/Democratic Way", point the finger and deny, deny, deny.
I hope someone's keeping tabs on all of the miscarriages of justice. We know the media won't.
At the end of the day, a brand of justice was served.
I find this.....concerning
How's this for speedy? Jesse Jackson Jr. The blatant felon gets $138,000 per year in disability payments then the fix is in gets to cut child support payments to very little:
http://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/judge-cuts-jesse-jackson-jr-s-child-support-payments/
While cpd pension is funded at less than 25%, the fat cats democrats still stealing from the taxpayers, and to boot rahm is fundraising again in Washington pathetic mess!
Foxx took office 01 DEC 2016 and made the statement that the error belonged to Alvarez.
Please, it's Foxx's responsibility to know what cases are up. Especially murder cases.
If it was a Cop case she'd be all over it.
Everyone overlooked her illegal campaigning, no one will even bat an eyelash over this.
Change the name of Cook county to Cartoon county. They live by animated laws. The democrats wont be happy until Cook county jail is empty and the city buys it and turns it into condominiums. The survival of Chicago as we used to know it is heading into the point of no return very rapidly. Leave.
SCC could you please remind the many blue shirts who don't know that FRIDAY is the FOP election!
The 1st time in history that the whole board can actually be retired members!
That means they will actually have to drive in the morning to FOP hall and stand around while DEAN shake your hand.
Kimm, If you're reading this or any of your minions, You must have made a mistake in your transition report. You do serve the victims of Cook County. Your attorneys do have ethics, I am not sure you do yet, but I will give you the benefit of doubt. I have a business opportunity for you. Would you like to purchase 50% ownership in my store.My losses due to shoplifting are increasing. The police do their job but a day later, I have the same person stealing again. BTW this person is given a section 8 voucher, WIC, and is is on SSI. She told me "as long as I don't have to go jail" I will be here everyday.
Welcome to Chicago where the animals roam free as a protected species, it's open season on the law abiding citizens and the game wardens are prosecuted when they harm the protected species.
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Anonymous said...
Off Topic: Does anyone know how Social Security works with our retirement? I know our benefit is reduced because of our pension (how much is it reduced?) Also, can your spouse collect her full Social Security amount even if we collect our pension? Thanks for any help!
I was one of the fortunate ones who qualified for SS. I was suppose to collect $898.00 at age 62, but they cut it down to $489.00.Thanks Rostenkowski and and Democrats!!!! That still isn't bad...hey, it will pay for my Medicare. As far as your wife, if she doesn't work for the City, State, etc, she should get her full amount.
3/09/2017 03:41:00 PM
The Windfall Elimination Provision reduces your SS by I believe about 40%. It was implemented to impact folks like us who payed into a pension that SS wasn't taken out of. It's a really convoluted formula they use to figure it out, but the bottom line is we're being screwed big time. Thanks, Dan.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
For the person wanting Social Security information. The reduction is based on a lot of factors. I worked full time for 28 years before becoming CPD and my benefit was cut almost in half. You can't figure it on line, you have to go there. Also, what I found out when going to SS, not all agents even know how to figure deductions. So, I had to go back twice. It's a daunting, unfair process.
3/09/2017 12:25:00 PM
You can figure it out on-line. There is a WEP calculator on the SS site. Also, at 30 years of "substantial" earnings the penalty goes away and you get the same SS as everyone else. The penalty goes away a little bit at a time starting with your 21st year of "Substantial" earnings. A little more of the penalty goes away each year until you hit 30 years. This is actually something to think about for the younger guys.
(OT) again President Trump correct Barry Obama was illegitimate president Barry's brother releases Barry obamas Kenya birth certificate typical democratic liars:
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/malik-obama-shares-photo-brother-baracks-kenya-certificate-birth/
Thinning the herd, letting nature take it's course.
Ah rock on George, one time for Ringo
Good Lord Mr SCC, we just lost a man of the hour who died by gunfire after walking out of Jail by a murder he did not commit !sic. The guys here are speaking of Social Security issue, that's not the topic.
Hey, does anyone know that the county has to do a IRS currency transaction report for monies exchange over $ 10, 000.00. The asshole sheriff avoids this mandate federal law. The bond guy who bonded the fool out HAS to drop his name, social security number and has a valid ID. The form gets sent to IRS and entered in the fed system !! Easy pickings, the mutt putting up 10 K with zero source of income other then his link card.
IRS could make the government rich seizing all the property, cars, and bank accounts from these $0 tax paying citizens. All un reportable cash paid for all in full. The new vehicle dealer's play the game when selling new rides for cash taking three or four payments, under 10 K to avoid reporting a CTR. The south western ave, new car dealer's make a fortune taking cash sales and avoid the reporting. The mutt pays sticker price for the dealer's doing this.
"My ant-tie" gave it to me story does not cut it with the IRS Special Agents. Take their monies and they will cry a bitch. IRS should hit phony Dart with a full claim of the 10 K. Also charge him for the violation.
Mr. Dart, you just got caught !!!
Looks to me like he got a speedy trial after all.
I was one of the fortunate ones who qualified for SS. I was suppose to collect $898.00 at age 62, but they cut it down to $489.00.Thanks Rostenkowski and and Democrats!!!! That still isn't bad...hey, it will pay for my Medicare. As far as your wife, if she doesn't work for the City, State, etc, she should get her full amount.
3/09/2017 03:41:00 PM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Consider yourself lucky.
somehow, someway, somewhere your benefit is more than it should be by calculation.
And by calculation it is more than the 40% reduction.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
(OT) again President Trump correct Barry Obama was illegitimate president Barry's brother releases Barry obamas Kenya birth certificate typical democratic liars:
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/malik-obama-shares-photo-brother-baracks-kenya-certificate-birth/
3/09/2017 09:58:00 PM
Does this make anyone feel uncomfortable this this was a total illegitimate presidency wow this is just incredible front page of the drudge report.com I wonder if the diss honest fake media will look into this and stop all the nonsense of attacking President Trump at every turn the man is trying to make America great again well the media the Liberals the thought is the illegal criminals etc. are trying to continue the ruination of America. The forgotten man and women make sure we finally have a president that is going to put America first America first is all that counts right now this country must be secure the border must be secure the politicians that have been stealing for so many years need to be put in prison a forensic audit need to be done here in Chicago as soon as the Attorney General Jeff sessions is this team in place they need to have a couple play loads of accountants and auditors from the from the federal government attorney generals office flowing in here as soon as possible to audit absolutely positively all the goings-on of the elected God bless the Chicago police department and police officers everywhere in America.
Your SS check after paying mandatory Medicare Part B will be approx. $128. a month. Vote Democratic! Your wife can collect her full SS check. When you die and she collects the widow pension, her SS check gets cut too. Believe it. Remember, Vote Democratic!
3/09/2017 06:37:00 AM
Why leave a comment if you have no idea of what you speak. There is no set amount for SS benefits as your monthly benefit is based on your lifetime earnings for which you have paid SS taxes.
You need 40 credits/quarters to collect and your entitled benefit will be reduced by anywhere from 40 to 60 percent because of the Windfall Elimination Provision which was sponsored by convict Rostenkowski.
Hey 3/09/2017 04:23:00 PM I understood that it's not just the Police that got fucked by the felon politician. anyone who has a municipal pension and does not pay into social security, like Firemen, teachers and other city workers everywhere? The benefits that you earned by paying the full required amount into the fund every paycheck before you became the Police will be reduced by 40%. It is bullshit!
Maybe with the new administration, that rule can be changed, especially since the pension fund is so fucked over!
Ya, and maybe the city and county could turn republican too! ;)
Anonymous Anonymous said...
How's this for speedy? Jesse Jackson Jr. The blatant felon gets $138,000 per year in disability payments then the fix is in gets to cut child support payments to very little:
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A friend of mine who actually works, makes less than half of what Jesse gets in free taxpayer money.
He pays three times what Jesse is now required to pay for 1 child.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
(OT) again President Trump correct Barry Obama was illegitimate president Barry's brother releases Barry obamas Kenya birth certificate typical democratic liars:
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/malik-obama-shares-photo-brother-baracks-kenya-certificate-birth/
3/09/2017 09:58:00 PM
Gee will the dishonest media jump on this? crickets!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Word is COMM JS of 010 is putting a plan together to for CPD to escort prisoners home from cook county jail so we can keep the shoots and drops down. He is asking special Ed for approval and whether or not it can be done without generating ISR's.
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They don't give em bus fare anymore?
Keep the line moving.
I know its fashionable to bash him, but if it wasnt for Rostenkowski the whole social security system would have gone bankrupt in the 80' and no one would have gotten shit!
If only Dart would have given the guest one last pizza party he might still be alive.
This just save the text payers millions and millions of dollars in future incarceration cost and also saved some innocent civilians from being shot or maimed from this animal,karma is a bitch.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I was one of the fortunate ones who qualified for SS. I was suppose to collect $898.00 at age 62, but they cut it down to $489.00.Thanks Rostenkowski and and Democrats!!!! That still isn't bad...hey, it will pay for my Medicare. As far as your wife, if she doesn't work for the City, State, etc, she should get her full amount.
3/09/2017 03:41:00 PM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Consider yourself lucky.
somehow, someway, somewhere your benefit is more than it should be by calculation.
And by calculation it is more than the 40% reduction.
3/10/2017 05:52:00 AM
Over here to the East just a few miles - a retired copper who just started collecting SS last year got a notice yesterday he was overpaid by $5300 last year. They did give him 30 days to repay it back.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hey 3/09/2017 04:23:00 PM I understood that it's not just the Police that got fucked by the felon politician. anyone who has a municipal pension and does not pay into social security, like Firemen, teachers and other city workers everywhere? The benefits that you earned by paying the full required amount into the fund every paycheck before you became the Police will be reduced by 40%. It is bullshit!
Maybe with the new administration, that rule can be changed, especially since the pension fund is so fucked over!
Ya, and maybe the city and county could turn republican too! ;)
3/10/2017 08:24:00 AM
It's not bullshit. Social Security was set up to replace a portion of a person's income when they retire. Before WEP SS would look at the average policeman's lifetime earnings and figure he just worked a low-income job. They would then give him minimum SS. That is where we used to make-out, getting the minimum. Didn't really deserve it and they figured it out and put WEP in place. I want every cent I can get too, but WEP is fair.
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