FOP Election
Supposedly, upwards of 10,000 ballots remain outstanding, hinting at a record low voter response. We hope this isn't true, especially as they sent along a pre-paid envelope to save you the fifty cents postage.
For pete's sake people, send the ballot back. We've given some advice, ask some old timers, research the tiniest bit, read the posters and literature sent to your address.
For pete's sake people, send the ballot back. We've given some advice, ask some old timers, research the tiniest bit, read the posters and literature sent to your address.
Labels: FOP
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
99 Comments:
10,000 not turned in??? You idiots.... Don't dare complain about a thing.
Incumbent up to some f*ckery. At best it's a run-off between Dean and some other puppet. Would sure have liked to seen Brock Merck get a chance.
Too bad I never had a ballot sent to my house. I'll be there in person to vote out Do Nothing Dean.
Active members vote. Don't bitch if u don't.
I don't think Dean is even going to make it in the top two. But if he does remember that he worked at Calumet College making six figures while collecting $60,000 per year from our pension fund. Then when pressured last year by the pension fund board its a miracle he can come back to work! Total scammer! But don't forget he is getting an award for "Protector of the working people" . How do you get that award when you haven't worked the street in 15 years.
I guess the murder rate was high on the list officer cared about!
Don't worry the homeless looking retirees will vote because they have little to do but collect newspaper clippings and talk about the good ole days.
And you new bees who don't get that nice check like everyone else does called duty availability don't worry it can always be raised again to five years not getting the check.
FTO don't sweat it you can train a bus load of recruits.
E.t.'s dont worry murders scene NO BIG DEAL no extra pay either!
All you that seemed to not score perfect like the clouted because you did not have copies of the promotion test better luck next time.
All you wanna be airport rangers who can't figure out how much managements spot the airports have good luck.
Looking for a patrol car? Don't worry a merit a HQ is driving it to community meeting on a 4 hour shift and then taking the car home.
All you call back prisoner keep saving up nobody getting you a lawyer for your grievance.
All you ticket writers on the secret 5th watch in a district JAMMED PACKED with scholars and clouted keep on doing what you do.
i voted twice used my retired daddys ballot he was busy making money collecting rents doesn't even think about the FOP anymore.
SCC - Normally, you provide me with a venue to ventilate against crime perpetrated by your average mutt and more importantly, our CongressClowns and AlderCreatures. Griping about the Pension/Healthcare, Rahmulus, the gold star club, and the media is a close second.
If more than 10,000 ballots are not voted - perhaps we can only walk away realizing that we are our own worst enemy.
Retired .38 spl +P
WTF If true wtf are you thinking, this is the most important election in years. Don't just hand this to Deano , he's weak and bought
Shoot them SHIT RIGHT BACK , Thats all there waiting to hear , is to hear what they want to hear , Just like you say , then the ASSHOLES will say , after they finally get answered there way and after trying enough times ,They will say The Majority wanted this , These Fuckin Hopeless imbeciles actually think everyone was just born yesterday
I'm so disgusted with the ballot choices that I have not returned mine. I don't want any of the current regime to continue. I sure as hell don't want the ticket that has the former crew, Shields is not an option, and I'm not impressed with the New Direction slate either. It seems that no matter who I vote for, with the exception of Trump, it's not a winning vote. Cherry picking a candidate here and one there? I may do that, but I'm so sick of everything to do with this job, that I just don't freaking care anymore. I just want to do my 5 more years and get out...of this job, the city, the county, and the state. At this point in my life, things should be great on this job, and yet, I believe we are worse than we were. People are gonna say, "don't bitch, you didn't vote", but I truly feel like it doesn't matter.
I actually never received mine , however I got all the sample ballots and mailers from the different candidates. I plan on voting get in person on Friday.
I read this and I'll tell you, if you guys don't vote - don't bitch about your situation.
Apathy is NOT going to get you anything - especially, anything positive.
If it were up to me, I would say dump FOP and go with a new organization AND a whole new slate of officers.
I don't envy your job but I wouldn't put up with a half-ass union saying they "got my back" when all they have is a promise for a merit promotion for themselves.
Vote!
Or bitch and cry on the blog later
as Rahm The Bantam Rooster of a man,
flaps, crows and shits triumphantly in
another e-mail about more benefits
he's stripped from Policemen and
their families.
Food For Thought:
It's entirely possible that POTUS
is holding back to see if for ONCE,
Chicago Policemen will unite and fight
back.
If you don't? Why would he waste
federal resources to help you
re-take this city when you refuse
to even vote to help yourselves?
He could possibly bypass Chicago and
let it collapse under the weight of it's
own rot, corruption and criminality to help another
city where the Coppers have a bargaining
unit worth a goodly shit between two
shoes or where the Coppers actually
have it in them to stand and fight back.
Just sayin'.
Rahm and the people who sent him are
licking their chops at walking us backwards
on pay and benefits, busting us completely
out of our pensions and stealing them for
their own use.
Failure to properly fund = THEFT.
Reduction in benefits in light
of failure to properly fund = THEFT.
Pension Payment Holidays = THEFT.
VOTE!
And perhaps you'll get your sweet revenge
of seeing dirty cocksuckers going to federal
prison for the rest of their worthless lives
since public hanging isn't allowed.
No incumbents!
No second chances!
No continued sucking
on the membership teat
while returning the sum
total of less than Jackson J. Shit
for our membership dollars!
Stop being so damned forgiving and long-suffering!
It's past time for Policemen to use their
LONG collective memories and learn to hold grudges
against dirty, traitorous motherfuckers
who not only sold us out but irreparably
harmed our VULNERABLE widows and retirees.
And for what?
Do you buy into Rahm's "Medical Ethicist"
brother's nasty eugenicist fantasy of
leaving "no longer useful" people in
the woods naked on a bed of branches?
The non-contributory swing-dicks/hang-tits
have been slid in line ahead of YOU?
They have NO WORRIES about Rahm Emanuel
orchestrated, politically motivated
cuts and snatch-backs!
VOTE!
The hair gels only care about residency, something they new existed before they took the job.
I received my ballot two days ago
The Low turn-out is a reflection of Low Morale and an acknowledgment of a Loss of Faith in the System and the FOP! Add to that the Operator Beard/Hair Gels, who demographically do not even vote in Political elections and you have the current situation. BUT REMEMBER, TO NOT VOTE, IS TO VOTE, BECAUSE YOUR VOTE COULD HAVE HELPED THE LOSER, OR THE VICTOR. And when you don't vote, "Napoleon" Wins. An Active FOP presents a threat to our "Napoleon". Baby"G"
Team Angelo all the way! Blue wave group is a bunch of losers ! Kevin has proven the rules don't count for him, residency!
McGuire has no clue, nice guy but, no clue!
Shields should have been tossed out of the union. Hopefully all the guys he Endorsed file a lawsuit against him.
Dougherty, Donahue, Aguilar,Di Maria, need to just go away already!
3% raise for retirees!
4500 retirees signed up for health care!
Casino bill final approved!
Letter delivered!
Record wins at discipline arbitrations!
Sorry people, I am not running for any office, I just go to the meetings and get informed! Don't believe the lies!
Most of these people on the other tickets shouldn't even be able to carry a gun let alone represent us!
I don't care I get my check once a month Iam happy Fuck FOP selling the house and getting out of town
No ballot sent either. Protector of the Year my ass! Dean protectored himself and kids during this tenure! Bye bye Dean! Lawsuit coming against the Lodge and state Lodge! Stay tuned for voting fraud complaints! Names are adding up into the worse class action against Deano, Bella, and the Election committee
Lost count of how many elections I voted in. Every last vote I made I regretted. All winners eventually lay down with the City and we lose something usually in the form of medical. Whatever gains were made just an illusion. Screwed no matter the victor. I still always vote but it feels like a useless thing to do.
No one cares anymore officers!!! It's the same old bullshit
People if you have not noticed Dean Angelo has been bought and sold by Mayor Rahmn Emanual. He has been silent on virtually every issue in the last three years. He has NEVER opposed City Hall and has not sued the City or filed any new legislation down state one time. This election will be critical with the new construction tract coming in June. Please vote Dean out and his entire ticket.
Mikey Shields is going to take this election and I wish him luck. But whoever you are going to vote for that is great but please just vote. The 5th floor looks at our voter turnout and just laughs.
This election was over before it was started. So few officers take the time to ever go to a meeting even once in their career. This election has hit a record low for qualified candidates.
No one wants to be a watch rep, no one wants to be a unit rep, no one wants to go to meetings, even when officers get screwed very very few will even file a grievance. Let's not rock the boat I may screw up my future chances a meritorious promotion.
How few are signed up for email updates. Now they even tape the meetings and you can watch them on-line. Less than 40 people monthly watch the meetings at their leisure.
Shields proved once he was unqualified and shame on him. If we elect him again shame on us. The Blue Voice ticket lost any chance of being elected when their mailer came out almost a week after the ballots went out. How apropos with Dougherty and Aguilar in the office with Shields when the "letter" was not sent in on time. Again they screwed us once shame on them if we do it again shame on us.
If you don't like the candidates become a watch rep, a unit rep, go to meetings, get involved.
If you don't vote, Deano wins.
The hair gels only care about residency, something they new existed before they took the job.
3/08/2017 03:52:00 AM
I don't know if they actually care about that issue, but I'm sure they knew it existed before they took the job, because it's nothing new.
As a Sgt, I got the membership card, magazine and ballot. Thing is: I never paid the $60 to be a member. I did in years past but the fop didn't send me the membership form. Multiple that by every other Sgt, lt, Capt, retiree and the fop is losing out on a lot of money.
That's why I'm not voting for Dean and his crew.
And even if I did pay the dues, why am I voting for the fop leadership? I can understand receiving the newsletter but not the ballot.
Marty Prieb seems the only logical choice. As the previous post two weeks ago asked... can one supervisor who has ever had the displeasure of having to supervise Mike Shields vouch for him? As a worker? As honest? As a patrolman who showed up everyday and didn't cause problems or greatly abuse the medical your after year? At least MP wrote books and has accomplishments.
Not surprised. The retiree vote will get Dean back in. We are our own worst enemy.
In any organization it is most time the loudest complainers that do noting to fix a problem except complain. Yes do the survey.
Looks like with a contract coming up we will all be represented by detectives and retirees.
Deano needs to go, Shields fought for increased pension funds to only have Deano agree to less money.
Haven't received my ballot....
All you overachievers who talk about getting rid of the FLOP sound like ass-hats!
Who do you think will run for any offices or president in this NEW UNION you fantasize about?
that's right the same goof on the current ballot.
Its hard to believe that if you were such a great person you would run for office and actually help yourself in the process. I know you can't balance your check book or put a table together with instruction BUT not mailing a ballot...
Focus on how many special employment days you can get a month and plan your next vacation to Disney. IMPRESSIVE
Vote? Vote for whom?I personally don't know any of these characters and when I ask about this guy or that gal all I get is conflicting information and stories about them. It's very difficult to vote based on a flyer.
Well I hope my ballot made it there. I retired in December 2015 and still keep up with lodge business. Sad that Dean senior will not return call from retired members.
Yes our retired medical insurance is not the same as when active duty.
But the union keeps saying it's the same.
Just none of them use this 3 tier PPO insurance. To find out why it's not the same.
I called FOP yesterday and there were 10,465 ballots at the post office. That means there are about 6-7,000 still out.
what difference does it make who gets elected. all will remain the same.
For special Ed and dullard Rahm's sake JUST VOTE still got 2 days left..
When you vote think about who is going to push back at the city and who is vocal regarding rights for our membership. I can tell you it's not the Angelo team. Nothing worse than getting beat up over and over again while your big brother just stands there and watches. We need an aggressive leader guys in order to turn this around. I know some people are not fond of the young kid but much of what happened during that time was a shared responsibility of the entire board which is made up of the K. Graham ticket. We have a Commander in chief in the White House that supports Law Enforcement now is the best time for us to elect an aggressive leader.
I don't envy your job but I wouldn't put up with a half-ass union saying they "got my back" when all they have is a promise for a merit promotion for themselves.
3/08/2017 01:45:00 AM
Seems like many of them are taken care of already. Quite a few on the ballot are detectives or are in suck ass units. And if not already, they can expect the bump soon after elected, that is why they run in the first place.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The hair gels only care about residency, something they new existed before they took the job.
3/08/2017 03:52:00 AM
Very true, residency will never be changed worry about the most important things pension,health care, discipline, heath. Residency "forget about it!"
Mike Shields has my vote
DOnt forget Ray Caisano was a democratic ward committeeman. How the hell did he get on the police department, let alone the FOP?!
That's pathetic. And it's the same problem with voting for politicians. What is wrong with coppers, that's why nothing changes and yet they bitch the loudest
Don't worry the homeless looking retirees will vote because they have little to do but collect newspaper clippings and talk about the good ole days.
And you daddy is one of them
Like I said before......we should go with TEAMSTERS UNION (at least they could protest on our behalf).
Everyone who doesn't vote will sure find the time to bitch about things at the bar, at work or on this blog. How about taking two minutes to fill out the ballot and mail it with the free postage instead? Non-voters who complain are like liberals worried about crime; you get what you deserve and asked for.
"The hair gels only care about residency, something they new existed before they took the job"
Not True, Wheel-Gunner!
We also care about those fat retro checks.
Never got a ballot myself, so I will be there in person
I just want to do my 5 more years and get out...of this job, the city, the county, and the state. At this point in my life, things should be great on this job, and yet, I believe we are worse than we were. People are gonna say, "don't bitch, you didn't vote", but I truly feel like it doesn't matter.
3/08/2017 01:14:00 AM
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You are an IDIOT, this is exactly WTF the problem is, you will sit and bitch dont care dont care and then as soonas your cdlose to your 5 years being completed bitch about what the union is or has done for you.
Anonymous said...
The hair gels only care about residency, something they new existed before they took the job.
3/08/2017 03:52:00 AM
How dare anyone expect their union to fight a contract provision that has been found unconstitutional in other cities. Do you realize how silly you sound? You are actually defending the city being allowed to impose their will on our personal lives simply because of an intrusive law and contract provision that was successfully challenged in cities that had the same thing. Just because it is in a contract doesn't make it untouchable. They touch plenty of the things in the contract that effect us and are always trying to take more and more away. Granted, the law has to be challenged and changed before the city would ever think about taking this out of a contract. But the "hair gels" pay union dues like everyone else and are entitled to express what they would like changed in the future.
Every time we get a new contract the city changes it for their benefit. So why shouldn't we try to change it for our benefit for once? Every contract we lose more and more. Anything they "give" us is only to distract us from something that they are taking from us or setting us up for losing something in the following contract. They only "give" because they will "get" more in return.
Do you think the 55 and out was a win for us? It sounds good on the surface, but anytime the city gives you something you have to ask yourself "WHY?". It got rid of a lot of senior officers who were making the most money in patrol and put them into the already dwindling pension system. The hopes being that this further burdens the pensions and strengthens their position of a pension "crisis" so they can move to change it. And in the meantime, they hire new officers at a much lower salary and screwed them out of duty availability (yet another change in the contract) to further save a lot of money. And as far as the insurance for 55 and out? Rahm already bragged about screwing the retirees and make no mistake, he is looking for more ways to do it.
Think the base salary only retro for the year that shields screwed us out of by not sending a simple letter was a win? Again, ask yourself why the city would pay you money that they did not have to? Because they knew that greedy short sighted coppers would flock to get some extra cash and would pass the contract that dean and his crew shilled rather than take it to arbitration where we would most likely not have been forced into the tier system, not have given up the duty availability for new officers, not have lost 25% of the grad school reimbursement (setting us up for future losses in that as well as the bachelors degree program) etc. For about a measly $1k per officer, the city bought complete control of you and your families health care, got you to sell out future officers and set us up for future losses.
The bottom line is that we get paltry raises that are eaten up by rising health care and cost of living expenditures and receive nothing else of substance except being set up for future losses. It is about time that we start expecting more out of our negotiations. I would rather we get nothing but the paltry raises and lose nothing rather than the constant loss of contractual strength.
You have a voice, use it. It is in the form of a piece of paper and a prepaid envelope. It doesn't get much easier than that. If you are unhappy with the way previous contracts under shields and angelo have gone, than pick some new guys. The new direction ticket seems like the strongest contenders. But either way, vote!!
Lift residency for officers with 10 years of service. The city will get a bigger and better pool of new applicants. It will attract people living outside of Chicago
Apathy at its worst.
The fop's worst enemy is the fop.
During short shanks administration the FOP organized picketing of city hall. Now would be a good time to march on city hall. The current mayor is screwing over all the tax payers. Hopefully the next FOP president will have the balls to picket cit hall.
When only a tiny fraction of the officers participate in the "election", I suggest to folks that it is a message sent about overall approval, well disapproval, of the union ITSELF. It gets a little tough to claim representation of the entire group when the vast majority won't even bother to participate when everything but making a few marks, wetting an envelope and dropping it in the mail is done for everyone.
Kinda looks like a "no confidence vote", huh?
What a mockery it is for a "President" of the union has "won" this kind of an election with just half of the votes when not even half actually voted. Leadership claims the mantle of leadership with a great big fat 25% of the eligible voters voting in their favor? Yikes!!!
Gee, maybe people are just fed up with paying those dues for, ummm, well, for what exactly? Uh huh, exactly.
Why does the outer return envelope have may name and address on it? I know it's for return purposes but how difficult is it for the ballot to get to the FOP with prepaid postage and their address typed on the front. Seems it would be very easy to see which officers voted for which candidates if somebody wanted to.
10,000 quietly moved out of the City and didn't leave forwarding addresses. IAD will be overwhelmed.
Just noticed this: according to he 2017 FOP Book, The Election is Mar 21 (or) this coming Friday - even though by its really the 10th. It's too late to rely on the US Mail now and hand delivered only accepted.
The poor turnout will likely be mentioned by Rahm to show low interest from the FOP membership.
How much will this year's golf outing cost?
Was at retiree breakfast recently looks like Mike Shields the only 1 that actually had the balls to speak out will win! Who is nicknamed Facebook?
i have been to 1 union meeting in 27 years. Listened to people with an ax to grind, then the retirees, grinding their ax. Someone I know went recently, and pretty much told me, nothing's changed. In 27 years. Why would i waste my time again? Now that being said, what in the world do 17 trustees do???
I voted by picking people all around the ballot. Hard to find enough candidates in districts though..
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Like I said before......we should go with TEAMSTERS UNION (at least they could protest on our behalf).
3/08/2017 09:59:00 AM
Right, they will steal our pension money quicker than the city does. Teamsters are no good, mob influenced. I know, I was a member of a local long ago. We had a B.A. who someone tried to kill, mob related no doubt. He was shot in the foot. We all joked that the lucky bastard was probably sleeping with his feet up on the desk when they came to get him.
The way I see it; The democrats have been in control of the city for over 65 years. The county as long. The state(congress)for at least the last 20 if not more.
Do you think they gained control because of the people. No it was done by control of key people, the machine, that got them the vote. Do you think the FOP is exempt from the same control? If you do you are a fool. The only way to beat these bastards is to play the legit game they do. If you see something say something. Screw the city and the democrats. They are screwing us, daily before it was daley! Time to talk to the people at the building with the other Picaso and clean up this whole State!
No fucking ballot mailed and have court Friday. Conspiracy
Mike Shields has my vote.
3/08/2017 09:18:00 AM
Mine, too. He organized the march on city hall and he used the expressway and downtown billboards to send a message to TD 9.5 and inform the public of TD 9.5's shenanigans. Shields used his bully pulpit and he should be elected as the lodge president so he can continue the good fight. Deano is like my dog Butch. They both know how to rollover and get a reward!
I called FOP yesterday and there were 10,465 ballots at the post office. That means there are about 6-7,000 still out.
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Half of those ballots not returned were never mailed out
Take that the bank!!
How much retro did we lose with Shields? Does that matter to people?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Vote? Vote for whom?I personally don't know any of these characters and when I ask about this guy or that gal all I get is conflicting information and stories about them. It's very difficult to vote based on a flyer.
3/08/2017 07:40:00 AM
Go to a union meeting once in awhile you lazy fuck!!!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Incumbent up to some f*ckery. At best it's a run-off between Dean and some other puppet. Would sure have liked to seen Brock Merck get a chance.
3/08/2017 12:13:00 AM
?????
Shields and Brock both are book smart and both lack common sense. Graham may be the biggest liar I have ever met on this job.
And could anyone tell me why Cruz and McGuire even bothered to run?
PS for those who do not know Graham is Donahue's puppet.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why does the outer return envelope have may name and address on it? I know it's for return purposes but how difficult is it for the ballot to get to the FOP with prepaid postage and their address typed on the front. Seems it would be very easy to see which officers voted for which candidates if somebody wanted to.
3/08/2017 02:34:00 PM
I was on the board in the past. FYI when the ballot are picked up at the post office by the election committee they bring them to the lodge and the accounting firm opens all of the outer envelops an throws them away. Candidates can follow the election committee to and from the post office. The names are there to keep someone from duplicating ballots. The inner envelop is also opened and discarded. The ballots are opened and pressed flat and put into trays. The election committee and the arbitrator are allowed in side the tables where this takes place. The candidates are not allowed anywhere near the ballots. The company that runs the election has done this forever and handles almost all of the large union elections.They run them thru the same type of machines like you vote for president of the U.S. there may be 15 machines going at the same time. There are as many as 20 people from the election firm working to get this done. It's not cheap either. Lets hope it's not a run off regardless as who wins.
Ballots are due tomorrow yet I just received mine in the mail today...guess ill be voting in person
There is honestly only one person that I'm going to vote for, that's Martin Preib. The rest of the options suck. He should've run for prez, I think he would've won in a landslide.
Still waiting for my ballot. Have they been mailed?
Piss poor voter participation is a win for Deano.
Absolutely nauseating........ Rahm will have a woody.
Sayin Bye to all. Thanks for your support.
Found an agency that respects the badge.
Lift residency for officers with 10 years of service. The city will get a bigger and better pool of new applicants. It will attract people living outside of Chicago
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No thanks. I like my neighborhood and house. It's not my fault you grew up in the burbs or out of state and bought some shitty frame house in a part of the neighborhood that wasn't as prime as you thought. You wanted to come into the big city and be the big city police but forgot that you have to live in the city and put up with city things. Us who grew up here and have lived here our whole lives in these neighborhoods find it all normal and relaxing. Don't like it then you should have tried to be a "big shot" with the big city police. Most of us who grew up here already knew it was only a job and took it because we just wanted a city job because that's what we grew up with. Sorry, but residency will never go away and the fop would never be so dumb to bargain for it. They would have to give up the moon and then some.
Too late to send in mail. Please go vote in person on Friday!!! Do not let retiree votes once again put majority of retirees on our board. Respect them but they do not have same interests!!!!!
U fool picket city hall, these days we would look like morons there would only be like 25 coppers there..... What makes you think they would show up for this event
"Active members vote. Don't bitch if u don't."
I didn't vote. That was my vote dumbass!!! I'll have every right bitch cuz you made this mess!!!! Not me!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why does the outer return envelope have may name and address on it? I know it's for return purposes but how difficult is it for the ballot to get to the FOP with prepaid postage and their address typed on the front. Seems it would be very easy to see which officers voted for which candidates if somebody wanted to.
3/08/2017 02:34:00 PM
So is that the reason you aren't voting? Geez grow a set will you. Your supposed to be a big tough Chicago Cop? Im embarrassed for you. Just vote!
Here ya go....
http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/2016/05/someone-to-verify.html
VOTE DEAN OUT!!!
Vote vote do not vote for retirees do not vote jackstavich.or Harold brown!!
Vote for the president that negotiated the best price for his American car.
(Thrift/Patriotic)
Vote for the president that is only married once and is still married.
(Loyal to the most important person in the world)
Vote for the president that has the highest credit rating.
(They are managing my money)
Vote for the president that will die for you.
(Will go to the mat against Rahm)
Vote for the president that you have to ask "who's that", I never saw any fancy signs of theirs?
(Humble and down to earth)
Vote for the president that was a veteran.
(Mission essential)
Or, vote for a president that is connected, manipulating, and stuck to the FOP tit taking your hard earned money via dues.
Got it.
How does one vote if you don't know who these chuckle heads are? Just because I see a flyer or card doesn't mean squat. Time to start having debates and make this like a real election.
Anonymous said...
How does one vote if you don't know who these chuckle heads are? Just because I see a flyer or card doesn't mean squat. Time to start having debates and make this like a real election.
3/09/2017 01:16:00 AM
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Right, and you are too dumb to make inquiries, look up information, and make your own assessment.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Too late to send in mail. Please go vote in person on Friday!!! Do not let retiree votes once again put majority of retirees on our board. Respect them but they do not have same interests!!!!!
3/08/2017 10:24:00 PM
Were the retirees worried about retro that you would get anyway? Would retirees fuck new people out of duty pay? Would retirees demand more cars? Guess they don't have the same interests. They look out for your future. Been there, done that.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why does the outer return envelope have may name and address on it? I know it's for return purposes but how difficult is it for the ballot to get to the FOP with prepaid postage and their address typed on the front. Seems it would be very easy to see which officers voted for which candidates if somebody wanted to.
3/08/2017 02:34:00 PM
I give a fuck who sees who I voted for! As long as my ballot was counted, all the assholes can go to hell!
Grow a set of balls! VOTE!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Incumbent up to some f*ckery. At best it's a run-off between Dean and some other puppet. Would sure have liked to seen Brock Merck get a chance.
3/08/2017 12:13:00 AM
?????
Shields and Brock both are book smart and both lack common sense. Graham may be the biggest liar I have ever met on this job.
And could anyone tell me why Cruz and McGuire even bothered to run?
PS for those who do not know Graham is Donahue's puppet
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Psychologically notice who are the only two candidates referred to by first name.
A PG467 analysis indicates that Dean and Brock have the support of two diametrically opposed membership blocks.
A Plaxio test would present a confidence rating of 97%.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Here ya go....
http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/2016/05/someone-to-verify.html
VOTE DEAN OUT!!!
3/08/2017 11:18:00 PM
I voted him out took the chance with Shields who got lied about and railroaded they don't want anyone that speaks out for us, we need that out of control big brass type to lead us. the hope is also the vote is watched carefully watch the committee for any deception,and dam it vote or don't complain!
received a ballot no return envelope
Most FOP members are so apathetic and not involved with their union that they don't even know that they were suppose to receive a ballot in the mail, let alone when the election is. Maybe that's why the retirees out vote the active members in every election.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why does the outer return envelope have may name and address on it? I know it's for return purposes but how difficult is it for the ballot to get to the FOP with prepaid postage and their address typed on the front. Seems it would be very easy to see which officers voted for which candidates if somebody wanted to.
3/08/2017 02:34:00 PM
So is that the reason you aren't voting? Geez grow a set will you. Your supposed to be a big tough Chicago Cop? Im embarrassed for you. Just vote!
Where does it say in the comment that he/she is not voting? You my friend have some shitty investigative skills. ZERO reading comprehension ability, back to the 3rd grade for you numb nuts.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Too late to send in mail. Please go vote in person on Friday!!! Do not let retiree votes once again put majority of retirees on our board. Respect them but they do not have same interests!!!!!
Many of us do have the same interests as active CPD. Do you have any idea of how many retirees have sons and daughters on the job, some 2 or 3. I personally am retired and set and am more interested in improving my sons working conditions and benefits than my own retirement benefit. And I'm sure I'm not alone in those feelings
Very childish stunt Dean pulled by photographing himself submitting the same letter that Shields failed to submit.
Then highlighting the event in a department wide email.
Honestly, if Shields was not aware of the timeline in which to mail the letter, that is understandable.
What is not understandable and unforgivable is the fact that other elected persons were aware and purposefully withheld that information, harming the entire membership.
They are the ones who are the guilty party.
Shaded circle goes to Shields.
3/09/2017 02:31:00 PM,
You hit the nail on the head! I voted for the interests of my issues, who are sworn active duty and FOP Lodge 7 members.
What is not understandable and unforgivable is the fact that other elected persons were aware and purposefully withheld that information, harming the entire membership.
They are the ones who are the guilty party.
Shaded circle goes to Shields.
The sad part of your comments are that you can't be that stupid. If, and I say if you are the police you should turn in your badge asap. Now if you want to be a detective someday. Get a copy of the Feb 2012 general meeting minutes from the lodge. If you do this you will have proof that Mike Shields knew about the letter and says so in the minutes, just days before it was due. Or you could believe Mikey's fairy tale and just not be that bright!
Vote DeaNo NOT!
Caparelli Needs to Go!!
Hes been there forever Drain the swamp
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