Why Such Poor Security?
- When street-gang thieves slipped with ease into a Norfolk Southern rail yard on Chicago’s South Side and ripped locks off one train, they likely expected to see merchandise like toys or tennis shoes. What they beheld instead was a gangster’s jackpot: box after box of brand new guns.
The guns had been en route from New Hampshire weapon maker Sturm, Ruger and Co. to Spokane, Washington. Instead, the .45-caliber Ruger revolvers and other firearms spread quickly into surrounding high-crime neighborhoods. Along with two other major gun thefts within three years, the robbery helped fuel a wave of violence on Chicago’s streets.
The 2015 heist of the 111 guns, as well as one in 2014 and another last September from the same 63rd Street Rail Yard highlight a tragic confluence. Chicago’s biggest rail yards are on the gang- and homicide-plagued South and West sides, where most of the city’s 762 killings happened last year.
A tin-foil-hat type might assume that an insider tipped off the thieves as to which boxcar among hundreds, maybe thousands, had the type of loot that would be easily concealable, easily transported, easily sold and highly desirable. And the tin-foil-hat type might also assume that nobody cared much because it (A) was insured, (B) only minorities were getting killed and (C) furthered a political agenda of painting legal gun owners with a rather broad brush.
How do you know no one cared?
How do you know no one cared?
- South Side Ald. Pat Dowell (3rd) introduced a City Council resolution after the 2015 theft demanding a public safety hearing on the rail-yard thefts. It never happened.
Of course it didn't. You aren't going to get a politically railroad to spend tens of millions on what is essentially a big open parking lot with a chain link fence, when they can just write a check for a few grand to a politician to kill any sort of "hearing." The gun company is insured for a few bucks per gun. If the lock on a boxcar is even scratched, they claim the entire load as "lost/damaged" and collect the insurance.
But if it helped Sparklefart's BATFE people claim that gun crime was due to lax laws in states surrounding Illinois, (instead of the 85% of guns used in crimes are stolen) then it only made sense to ignore nearly 150 guns that went walking at one rail yard.
But if it helped Sparklefart's BATFE people claim that gun crime was due to lax laws in states surrounding Illinois, (instead of the 85% of guns used in crimes are stolen) then it only made sense to ignore nearly 150 guns that went walking at one rail yard.
Labels: gun issues
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
86 Comments:
It wouldn't surprise me if it turned out that holder's doj tipped off the gangs. Faster and more furious.
Don't see where your going with this. Slow March weekend
And why are not the CPD patrolling the railyards? like you said it's like a big parking lot with a chain link fence around it. Cops can patrol almost everywhere else why not railyards where there is lots of unprotected high value cargo just sitting there?
Damn! In like 2003/2004 they scored a car loaded with a liquor. Can't remember what's it's called but it used to have a blue sack it came in or with. Hard booze was this stuff and pretty common. That shit was taken by the neighborhood's as well, but this score, especially where it went is such a kick in the nutz!
That's bad news
The railroads give to all politicians. Mediocre congressman get a pittance, more powerful congressmen and senators get more. Politicians of both parties get donations. There will never be laws affecting railroads passed unless the railroad people allow it.
Eh, these are guns coming back from Mexico, you remember one of Obama's adventures which he came the cartels free guns. Kinda reminds me of scene in robocops when those assholes got guns
We used to find piles of busted-up merchandise
along RxR access roads...
The most fun ever was when some big screen TVs
migrated from rail-cars to nearby CHA townhouses
and high rises.
Union Pacific P.D. provided us with the range
of serial numbers "just in case" and they seemed
interested in laying hands on the thieves.
CHA P.D. got in on the fun too.
It was kinda funny... Nary a working light bulb
in the damn fixtures, toilets caked full of
congealed/fermenting shit and big dumb-assed
flies on a contact high buzzing around in
January but damnit, there was a big-assed
TV sitting on milk crates just as proud
and pretty as you please.
"We bought dat TV!"
Yuh-huh... Sure.
Guns walking off freight trains is nothing new either.
Oh wait... The time everybody was sporting new
Timberland boots. The shortys were stuffing
tissue in the toes in order to wear them.
With funny results.
"Hey Shorty! C'mere!"
>RUN! Trip-Stumble-Fall-Busts Head<
It was fun getting m/fers locked-up and put out.
They cried to the ACLU about how racist
the "One Strike" provisions at CHA were.
The "One Strike" provision was struck down in court.
Standing on the corner engaging in profligate
swing-dickery seems to be the better deal than
being an actively contributing member of society.
Less grief and aggravation than being a Policeman.
We used to hunt BEE-AY-DEE, law breaking, violently
ungovernable m/fers...
Now it's The Policeman who is being hunted.
Police Like You Have No Friends.
Search term "cargo theft inside jobs" . . .
1st hit from google:
https://www.thetruckersreport.com/truckers-suspected-in-5m-cargo-theft-of-gold-bars/
Quite a few "narrative" problems here.
1) Plain Jane, unmarked truck pulls over to the side of the road and is IMMEDIATELY set upon by a vanload of bad guys - almost as if they knew the contents of this nondescript trailer.
2) The drivers exited the vehicle WITHOUT their weapons, leaving them in the cab of the truck against company policy.
3) The drivers changed their stories about the reason they stopped. First it was due to a mechanical issue, then it was because they felt ill because of gasoline fumes.
4) Nearly $10 Million worth of cargo secured with just a itty-bitty padlock? The other $5 Million of the load was silver, but the thieves only had to move 275 bars of gold to score $5 Million street value. Maybe they got lucky and managed to get 20% from their fence.
How about the movie GoodFellas? Two big heists at Idlewild/JFK Airport that had inside help, the Air France score in '63 and the Lufthansa theft in December of '78. Not to mention all the trucks in the area that were "hijacked" over the years with a little help from the drivers.
Plenty of nickel and dime shit that happens every week, and not just at the airports. FedEx has had their episodes, as well as UPS, DHL and almost every other carrier you can think of. Not just route drivers being ambushed, but items seeming to "vanish" from warehouse shelves.
Praise the Lord and pass the Reynold's Wrap!
I'm thinking something classic, like maybe an Indiana Jones fedora . . .
Great post SCC.. I've Talked to a lot of railroad police guys who work on the west side routes. They pretty much all concur the same thing. This is a chronic problem. Serious lack of security on those yards. The containers are essentially marked beforehand and either somehow magically disappear from the log or are broken into. This is a very well organized operation and its impact is heavy on the violence those stolen guns cause. The irony is that nobody is up the ATF s ass about what they're doing about it. I've seen maybe one ATF agent set foot in the district my entire time. Remeber operation Fast and Furious? Nobody puts the Feds in check or audits their operation and its effeciency. But sure have the DOJ come down and bust our balls about free coffee, etc. put body cameras on working coppers and micro manage us as were expected to clean up this violent mess. It make more sense to spend the money instead on reactive garbage like shot spotter technology command rooms and policing the police I guess.
Fuck this place what a joke.
it almost gets to the point where one does not even care to comment anymore. You stack up the facts and it is always the same. Orchestrated corruption, every time. In every country on every continent. It is unimaginable that humans can eat that much crap, decade after decade. I hope they shunt that rail car close to the fence.
There is no intention to solve a problem (gun violence) that is needed to feed the social justice agenda of gun control. How else can gun control be spawned if there is no gun violence? The LEFT needs gun violence, without it there is no gun control. The by-product of all this is the unfortunate loss of innocent lives. And those lives are played for all their worth. The gullible are pawns also. As Rahm famously said, "You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before."
Oh and "After the theft of some 30 guns in September, several posts on Brooks’ Facebook page asked: Would there be more urgency if the yard were in an affluent area?" But sad to say it's in an effluent area.........
Well asshat if it was it wouldn't be a stop and rob and I'll say that was a pretty damn racist statement to begin with by Brooks anyway
OT --
'This is the first gun you have access to in Grand Theft Auto: Gettysburg': Criminal is mercilessly mocked online after cops post photo of his barely-serviceable gun to Facebook
* Keith Gladden, 36, was arrested for having a loaded gun in Baltimore Wednesday
* Police posted a photo of the confiscated weapon to Facebook on Thursday
* The gun seems to be very dated, with duct tape wrapped around the handle
* The photo had more than 21,000 comments, mostly all making fun of the gun
* One user said it was from the 1800s and another said it was a missing artifact
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4282546/Baltimore-Police-mocked-online-old-looking-gun.html
Not that old, but the sloppy electrical tape is always funny...
It's Trumps fault.
It was Bush's fault now it's Trumps fault but it never was Obama's fault. That would be racist.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
And why are not the CPD patrolling the railyards? like you said it's like a big parking lot with a chain link fence around it. Cops can patrol almost everywhere else why not railyards where there is lots of unprotected high value cargo just sitting there?
3/06/2017 12:33:00 AM
----- Beacuse its private property, genius. In the past, they were always copper friendly. They let you use the restroom and let you sit and eat your meal in their break room. A visit was appreciated but not CPD 's place to patrol.
Most of the rail in Chicago is not accessible by vehicle. Yards can be driven around the outside but not in between trains. Rail agents are spread just as thin as the CPD. You cant stop the theft with fences, cameras or presence.
They have been braking into the box cars at 63rd st west of King Dr. since I was parachuted out of the academy to the 003rd district in 1973. So this is nothing NEW to the P..O.s who worked in these districts and your right SCC out of several hundred box cars in that rail yard they hit the right ones ? Just Getto luck I guess !
Stay F E T A L boys and girls The more trouble in this city the quicker we get rid of the 9.5 Tiny dancing Muther Hubber .Remember this you have NO friend in the Politicians in this the most Corrupt City in America You protect yourself and your partner out there and to HELL with the people who would put you in Prison and ruin you and your families Life !!!!!
Twenty-five thousand intermodal rail shipments pass through the Chicagoland area daily. Three thefts seems insignificant. However, when stolen guns are used in violent crimes, the human side or emotional impact is enormous. Thieves are opportunists. Whether they find boxes of cornflakes or air jordans, it all about stealing as much as they can and getting away with it within the confines of the Cook County Criminal Justice system.
Mmmm!
Can you say the "C" word?
No, not that one!
No, not Coincidence either!
Can you say Conspiracy! It just happens to occur in every major democratic filled blighted city,
every year, and they always just happen to find the right boxcar, on the right day,In the right rail yard.
Mmmm, I wonder who is behind this perplexing pattern and
and I wonder what their motive could possibly be for such deadly transgressions!
Once in the eighties the boxcar was full of Tech Nines! Now that was a blood bath!
I wonder who nobody will actually do an investigation to connect the dots!
Mmmm!
Affluent and effluent. Excellent word play.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Isn't this just the normal, (liberal) democratic way of doing things? Create a problem, then blame it on someone, (everyone) else?
J.J.
Don't get fooled. Criminals are no dummies. They know all the criminal laws on the books regarding firearms. They know the enhanced penalties. They know the good standing in society can be obliterated with documented criminal intent.
Rail bandits know it is illegal to legally possess firearms without a Firearms Owners Identification Card (F.O.I.D.) issued by the Department of State Police in their name after a rigorous background investigation. They also acknowledge these firearms are useless unless they could purchase ammunition. No FOID. No ammunition. And they could not legally carry these firearms because they do not possess a FOID thereby making the ineligible for a concealed carry permit.
Let us say they are caught with an illegally acquired firearm. Getting sentenced by those anti-Second Admendment Cook County judges is a deterrent in and of itself. Just the thought of hard time with a diet of bread and water, being clothed in striped non fubu type outfits without designer tags and breaking rocks in the hot sun is enough to scare the rail bandits straight. And don't forget the embarrassment, the stigma of a criminal record and being barred from legitimate future employment opportunities.
Let's say that firearm is used in a violent crime like a murder, armed robbery, sexual assault,domestic violence crime or a battery with a firearm. The full weight of the members of the bar association with their personal monetary aspirations filing that civil rights lawsuit seeking cash money judgements stemming from those wrong choices or criminally inspired lifestyles is a punishment that could tank one's credit score. The civil judgements can bankrupt any criminal and further punish them in ways that a righteous Cook County prosecutor can only dream of.
Just an idea....Why cant they put an alarm on the boxcar with the guns? Silent or audible, at least someone would be alerted immediately.
Also why cant a GPS/RFID chip be inserted into this cargo? Wouldn't be too hard to locate immediately after the crime would it?
Since only black people are getting killed, I assume BLM is okay with the status Quo...
So why don't the cops investigate these thefts?
Maybe Capt'n Jan can get the contract??
simple solution - have a two armed guard sit on the box car when ever the gun carrying boxcars sits for any length of time. Oh wait, this might cost a couple of hundred dollars in profit. I have never heard the Mayor or the Superintendent ever complain about these thefts. Maybe if they both stop fucking over the common folks and work towards ending these thefts there will be LESS GUNS ON THE STREETS.
Looks like Shaved may have gotten banned again by Blogspot.
remember, the CIA gave both crack cocaine and AIDS to the black community too
remember hat one?
How about when the superintendent says that more guns are recovered then NewYork and LA,what he does not say is over 80% of guns "recovered" are from "turn in's"....
>>> 'The guns had been en route from New Hampshire weapon maker Sturm, Ruger and Co. to Spokane, Washington. Instead, the .45-caliber Ruger revolvers ...' <<<
Hmmm... if those .45s were Ruger Vaqueros they got some sweeeet handguns. But the homies may be too dumb to know how to use them, the Vaquero is a Single Action 'Cowboy Gun'. Then again, even if they know that you have to manually cock the hammer before each shot, so it's not exactly a 'gangster gun' suited for a Drive-by. So that's one 'upside' for police.
Maybe the biggest upside for the police is that people who would by the .45 Vaquero will NOT buy one off the street. They're Cowboy Action Shooters and take their guns in all the time for service by legit Gun Smiths. A 'hot' gun would be found out asap.
I just tried to access Shaved's site again. Did they kill him again?
I feel so alone.
Now, keeps me you fool!!!!
The solution is simple. Hire securities from within the community. Don't allow residential desrimination when hiring security guards. Establish an entrepreneur set aside for south side aldermans for residents much like the Lakeview gender empowerment set aside was granted to the lacking actual police expirience capt janice robart-dillionger based on her genitalia.
Wave background checks and bump public school graduates to the head of the line. Non violent crimes such as theft, burglary, possession of stolen motor vehicles, larceny and financial fraud must not be a disqualifing factor to meaningful employment. Cap and gown pictures are acceptable documentation of public school graduation given that the act of actually obtaining transcripts requires personal initiatives and the collection of nominal confiscatory transcript fees.
Residents will have drug testing requirements waved given that minor amounts of controlled substances for casual use may disqualify an applicant. Criminal convictions will not be used as a determining factor barring employment!
Federal grants provided for job fairs must include resume building workshops and transition strategies building those bridges closing the gap to those Joe Biden high tech security jobs of the 21st Century. The federal government will ensure strict compliance to Title VII and Title IX provisions.
Railroads will fund community oversight tribunals consisting of community activists, faith based clergy, elected official's staffs and chaired by public elected officials. These tribunals will be given a voice in the financial impact of these private companies and ensure community based fairness is pursued. The mission statement affirms that it is the community who will best solve those burglary problems caused by the community.
Anonymous said...
....In like 2003/2004 they scored a car loaded with a liquor. Can't remember what's it's called but it used to have a blue sack it came in or with...
***
Crown Royal.
My late Grandfather stored silver dollars in his.
Perfect for storing those "safe queen" handguns.
Retired, 30+
I worked that area 40 years ago and the same thing was happening. Mostly the boxcars are broken in randomly. Once open, the folks spread the word and people from the hood climb in and pull stuff off. One week the surrounding neighborhood was filled with kids on banana yellow bicycles, another time, foot square blocks of frozen butter strewed on the tracks, another time portable TV's. Sometimes, when the trains are moving slow, a kid will jump on and kick the air brake hose between cars, stopping the whole train. Occasionally a kid gets killed doing it, and his family sues the railroad. Sometimes they get lucky. I once saw a load of rifles bound for the army during Vietnam opened and looted. Not a big conspiracy, just typical ghetto shit. Reverend Al.
The past 3 Superintendents have claimed the illegal guns were coming from Chucks Gun Shop. Now they claim the freights have been hit. One of these claims is "fake news" aka "a lie". Whenever I've been in Chucks, there's nobody there but police and troopers.
Now a question nobody ever asks is , Where are the criminals buying the ammunition from?" Why has not one gun/ammunition runner been arrested or charged in years in Chicago?" The few shooters who are apprehended don't have a FOID card so, why didn't the former and why hasn't the current SA cut a deal to find out where the guns and ammo is coming from?
Anonymous said...
And why are not the CPD patrolling the railyards? like you said it's like a big parking lot with a chain link fence around it. Cops can patrol almost everywhere else why not railyards where there is lots of unprotected high value cargo just sitting there?
3/06/2017 12:33:00 AM
It is private property and the responsibility of the railroad to hire security.At one time most of the railroad cops were suburban cops moonlighting. Not sure now.Millions of mexicans climb over, around and through fences along the Rio Grand. Do you really think that any fence a railroad puts up will stop those Engelewood gangbangers?
Remember back in the early 70's, they hit a boxcar loaded with dynamite. Fortunately, no blasting caps. We found sticks all over Englewood & Wabash. Station looked like an explosive shed, with everybody bringing it in to inventory. Crap been goin on for at least that long, for sure.
FOLLOW THE MONEY $$$$$$
SCC, you said it yourself. Its time to do a real investigation. Perhaps some of the old school, true detectives could step up an start following the money.
Go online to board of elections and start pulling records
Do some old fashioned link analysis and frequency analysis
Time line contributions with official acts
SOS corporate / LLC records checks (whos who in zoo pulling the strings)
Develop a heat map
Apply this to all the alderman
North side section 8 housing support? what developer/ real estate attorney contributed to the alderthief
What railroads / lobbyists contributed to the alderthief
What street gang / organized crime unit contributed to the alderthief
What organizations are benefiting from the tif thefts
Use those skills and experience gained over decades to shed some anticeptic sunlight on the cesspool
Perhaps a group of experienced and motivated retirees
The supposed "watchdogs" of the media and other groups aren't doing their job, in fact it is clear that they are complicit in the government industrial syndicate
Wanna drain the swamp? Bring in the independent professionals
in the 70's the area in Englewood along the RR property was know as income property
I thought vehicles aren't weapons according to the left
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/05/video-man-tries-run-former-boss-fired-job/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social
I'm stunned that the Norfolk Southern police department doesn't do anything to better secure the railyards and the boxcars, especially when they are carrying this kind of freight. I have always been under the impression that the rail cars are supposed to be MOVING through the yards, and are only stationary when crews are actively switching. I have been to the NS railyards in the Chicago area, and I know they are vast, but I can't believe nobody working the yard would notice thugs unloading a boxcar full of guns into a truck.
These thugs must have someone on the inside.
Standing on the corner engaging in profligate
swing-dickery seems to be the better deal than
being an actively contributing member of society.
What level of education can fathom this artistic poetry?
"Damn! In like 2003/2004 they scored a car loaded with a liquor. Can't remember what's it's called but it used to have a blue sack it came in or with."
3/06/2017 12:46:00 AM
Seagram's Crown Royal. Came in the gold-stamped purple velvet sack that is still The Purse Of The Ghetto, has been for ages. Dangle that thing all around for street cred & make it easy to snatch your money.
Coppers find the bags ideal for fishing reels.
Different "skill sets."
no reason to think that da'Boiz weren't fully aware of the goodies in that boxcar. Am sure their intelligence network is extensive & they have e/z inside access to shipping manifests & other shipping documentation
Anonymous Anonymous said...
And why are not the CPD patrolling the railyards? like you said it's like a big parking lot with a chain link fence around it. Cops can patrol almost everywhere else why not railyards where there is lots of unprotected high value cargo just sitting there?
3/06/2017 12:33:00 AM
CPD does not take responsibility for patrolling private party. The railroads have their own police and security. They need to beef it up.
Wooohoooo!! HeyJackAss.com was just recognized by FOX32!! Now we need to get the media to recognize SCC more often!
Exactly! It's not about GUN VIOLENCE.
It's not even about gun control.
It's about PEOPLE CONTROL.
2nd Ammendment states that you the shall the
RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS.
Not a PRIVILEGE if you have an FOID,
and you register it, and pay $200 for a twenty hour class,
and have your permit with you, only one hour before
and one hour after work, and etc....
ITS ABOUT PEOPLE CONTROL.
Enough people killed at the hands of bad guys with guns,
well it's time for more gun control which again only means,
PEOPLE CONTROL.
Anonymous said...
And why are not the CPD patrolling the railyards? like you said it's like a big parking lot with a chain link fence around it. Cops can patrol almost everywhere else why not railyards where there is lots of unprotected high value cargo just sitting there?
3/06/2017 12:33:00 AM
We don't provide private security.
Bitch at the railroad police, not us.
Just pass a federal law ordering that guns and ammo be carried in armored boxes within armored box cars. Make the gangs work for the guns they steal from trains.
It's not a perfect solution, but it would likely result in fewer thefts.
Guns should not be stored in something that be opened with a bolt cutter from Home Depot.
Another solution would be attaching claymore mines to "dummy" boxcars marked weapons and let thatreduce the criminal population. After a few hundred thieves blow themselves up perhaps the thefts would be reduced. Perhaps not, but we'd still be down a few hundred thieves.
Sounds like a job for the Jan Robards-Dillon security company.
Barb West & Ervin strikes again
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/watchdog/ct-icehouse-liquor-ervin-20170306-story.html
(OT) You have to admit this is so stupid looks like bruce was in a hurry before his boss chance the pathetic rapper came to talk to him:
Rauner floats two new CPS ideas hours before Chance the Rapper news conference
Gov. Bruce Rauner's office says there are two ways to find $215 million to help the cash-strapped Chicago Public Schools, but both paths require action from lawmakers at a time when he's spent nearly two years deadlocked with Democrats who control the General Assembly. Rauner's administration floated...
First we had rahm taking advice from the thugs and pandering to the scourge of society now we have "scared Bruce" taking orders from a punk kid rapper! guess chances daddy is so powerful with rahm that bruce has to sit down and listen as his boss chance tells him what he will do! Chance was having a meeting with bruce to tell him how to budget for the schools! can you believe this shit you cannot make this up! Bruce is obviously petrified of the chance crew,and to think bruce is a disgrace to Harley riders everywhere with his pandering bullshit, come on bruce sell the Harley and ride something more with your lineage how about a child's tricycle with a little bell your really pathetic like the rest of the so called leaders here!
This is the second or third story I've read about railroad thefts that use that same anecdote about the gangs working together to haul off the guns. It's like journalists are lazy or something.
I think the best reason to come up with more security for the railyards in Chicago is just to shut up the black conspiracy theory idiot-heads.
I did a quick search of Railyard or Boxcar Gun Thefts (no time frame) from Los Angeles, Texas, Phoenix and even Upstate New York and Connecticut and Massachusetts, hometown of Smith-Weson.
NOTHING. Not one news item is shown, only the crime infested lawless Chicago Southside Deadly Mix story.
There should be guns shipped in bulk all over the USA, one would think this would be rampant.
Some stoolie for the railroad or ATF said its not an inside job.
Maybe not entirely on the railroads part, but how about on the manufacturers end?
Anyone who's shipped something, even on eBay basically creates a simple manifest and gets tracking number.
And if anyone looked into the UPS truck, it's a miniature boxcar, sorted to some degree.
People get paid well to orchestrate a loading plan.
Someone created the contents manifest or bill of lading and another loaded it.
Boxcars have numbers and a time frame to be at a specific location.
The contents within are not scattered or obviously marked, but generalized.
If say Del Monte puts their name on the 2,000 dried peaches boxes, Nike, Mattel, Gillette and PineSol do the same, a weapons mfg. carton may just have its initials and of course its destination designators, which one of those cartons do you target?
Everything on the boxcar is subject to the schedule, pending any uncontrollable interruption.
A well organized criminal operation with insider help, can send a pack of feral youth to go looking...knowing the boxcar and the I-bond able trespassing charge. Somebody needs to dig deeper in their employee backgrounds.
Sounds too simple to believe and it is.
Upwards of 1000 boxcars and only 4 or 5 get popped.
As for Ald. Pat Dowell (D-3) introducing a City Council resolution...who has the southside chain link or iron fence pop-up company is another story the thick skulled, blind eyed media investigators need to follow up on.
As far as Democrats are concerned, we need to Build Bridges Not Walls (unless I have a company that builds walls).
Make America Safe Again...Make Burglary a Forcible Felony Again.
Werent the american taxpaying fools paying for those "illegal" guns flowing into mexico for the fast and furious fiasco?
Couldnt hold the prez or attorney general responsible because that would be racist right?
Inept pieces of shit, unamerican trash
Worked some rail thefts in Indiana a while back with RR PD and the Feds. That time it was insiders, but they still had a grab bag of what they were getting, but they hit the motherlode a couple of times. Flat screens one time, Crown Royal another, and cigarettes printed in Arabic with no tax stamps that were headed to Saudi. I'd bet the guys that got the guns would have been happier to get something like the smokes that are lighter and easier to move without getting caught. No serial numbers on Crown Royal or smokes, and any of the corner stores in the hood would pay well for them.
Actually the train rats that check in the train cars have a print out of what's on it, some of them are vague bills of lading, others are overly descriptive.
If the criminals are tipped off beforehand by parties unknown, why can't someone tip off the Railroad police ahead of time? Give the RRPD agents enough time to stake out the area before the arrival of the boxcar. As soon as the boxcar is burglarized, hit the burglars and hit them HARD! As I recall, theft from interstate commerce - like a railroad - is a Federal offense. Not only that, I'm certain that some, if not most, of these burglars have prior felony convictions. Possession of a firearm by a convicted felon - ANOTHER Federal offense!
Federal prosecution => Federal conviction => hopefully SERIOUS Federal prison time.
Just a thought here,
Retired Ol' Sixgun Sarge
Apple ships phones via tractor trailer with an armed guard. Ruger ships 45's on trains that travel thru ghettos. Makes sense.
The logistics of a rail yard have always led them to be porous.
Red wing work boots never get stolen, why is that...
As the democrat party is corrupt and is use to taking giving a cut of the action, have off duty CPD guarding the yards each night. As the pay for their nights work,they'll be able to take one item from each car at the end of their shift.
1. Cuts down on crime
2. Improves on CPD morale
3. Doesn't cost govt anything
4. RR will get their loads delivered with minor "shrinkage".
6. Any and all complaints can be handled through the normal channels at city hall, the complaint department staffed by Helen Wait. Make stickers to be put on the cars that have already paid.
"If you have a complaint, you need to go to Helen Wait".
It is a community asset
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/watchdog/ct-icehouse-liquor-ervin-20170306-story.html
We don't need more gun control ....what's needed is a lot more "Mutt Control". Take it any way you want.
Some companies weld the train car door so it is impossible to open quickly. Others weld the handle. And, others weld the door with wedges at the pivot points of the door release. No train yard rat operating in total darkness can defeat a welded door without a lot of time, stilts or a ladder and a very loud grinder that produces an large array of very illuminating sparks!
Years ago, there was a company on the south side with a very novel approach to securing a train car door. They invited a few miscreants to give it a try. With no time constraint or threat of being arrested or shot, in full daylight and with an array of hand tools including sledge hammers and pry bars, the miscreants made their best attempts. The miscreants all failed! It can be done, but the owner of the goods in the train car must want to secure the goods. Most do not make the effort, for a variety of reasons ranging from neglect or laziness all the way to criminal motives.
Hey Dean!
Na-na-nah-na, na-na- nah-na, hey, hey, hey, goodbye.
(OT) Behind the paywall another story to attack coppers the dishonest media 24/7 doing anything they can to discredit coppers again backing blue:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chicagoinc/ct-laquan-officers-fundraiser-0307-chicago-inc-20170306-story.html
Story:
Mystery veils fundraiser for cops accused of lying in Laquan McDonald case
Four Chicago cops accused of lying in their reports about the police killing of Laquan McDonald were to be the beneficiaries of a mid-March fundraiser organized by their colleagues, a lawyer for one of the accused cops says.
But nobody involved in organizing the event was willing to talk about it Monday, or to address rumors that it had been canceled.
The event — billed as a "benefit to help our fellow officers in the 8th District" — was advertised in a flier posted in the Central District last week. According to the flier, the event was to be March 19 at 115 Bourbon Street in south suburban Merrionette Park, a popular venue for police fundraisers.
Tom Pleines, an attorney for Sgt. Stephen Franko, said he paid $30 for a ticket and that the event was to raise money for Franko and three other officers, Janet Mondragon, Daphne Sebastian and Ricardo Viramontes. Police brass are seeking to fire the four officers for lying in police reports to protect Jason Van Dyke, who has been charged with first-degree murder in McDonald's fatal shooting. A criminal investigation into the possible cover-up continues. The four officers are on unpaid leave.
"I'm sure it's not easy being unemployed," Pleines said of the officers, who are fighting attempts to fire them. Pleines added that he received an email last week inviting him to the event from the president of the Chicago Police Sergeants' Association.
But 115 Bourbon Street does not have the event listed on its calendar of fundraisers, and managers there did not return calls seeking comment. The venue's owner, Vince Dinovo, hung up on a reporter. And CPSA President James Ade, also did not return calls seeking comment Monday.
Reached by Chicago Inc., a Central District officer who was listed on the flier as selling tickets declined to comment when asked if the event had been canceled.
It isn't the first controversy over fundraising for officers involved in the case. GoFundMe shut down a fundraiser for Van Dyke in November 2015 and returned more than $10,000 to donors, saying it was a violation of its terms of service to collect for someone accused of a crime.
And with 115 Bourbon Street located across the street from Chicago's Mount Greenwood community, where police-supporting white residents faced off with Black Lives Matter protesters late last year in angry scenes, any fundraiser attached to the officers involved in the McDonald case would have the potential for trouble.
Perhaps that's why nobody wants to talk about it?
Chicago Tribune's Angela Caputo contributed.
kjanssen@chicagotribune.com
As usual the media gets the story and hope every copper realizes they are not our friends. If it was a fund raiser for a criminal they would be promoting it on every outlet but let it be for coppers and they attack us! If your not fetal your really insane what matters? Protecting Blue nothing else, and of course your family!!
Anonymous said...
Standing on the corner engaging in profligate
swing-dickery seems to be the better deal than
being an actively contributing member of society.
What level of education can fathom this artistic poetry?
3/06/2017 11:04:00 AM
Conventional wisdom holds that Chicago Cops are a
bunch of dumb, under-educated, blue collar brutes
who do nothing but joyously put gloves, heavy boots,
batons and even bullets to the oppressed black
and brown folkses and peoples of Chicago.
For shame...
Now that "Police Reform" is here, those same Cops
are in a "hands off" pout by keeping their distance
from those oppressed black and brown folkses and peoples.
Everyone is all up in arms because of the cool,
well studied and dutiful to a fault detachment
and practiced lack of apparent fuck-givingness
by The Police.
"Make da Po-leece leave us alone!"
Or is it:
"Why da Po-leece actin' like
they don't care about US?"
Make up your minds why don't you...
Sarcasm/Silliness?
Silliness/Sarcasm?
Police Like You Have No friends.
FOLLOW THE MONEY $$$$$$
SCC, you said it yourself. Its time to do a real investigation. Perhaps some of the old school, true detectives could step up an start following the money.
Go online to board of elections and start pulling records
Do some old fashioned link analysis and frequency analysis
Time line contributions with official acts
SOS corporate / LLC records checks (whos who in zoo pulling the strings)
Develop a heat map
Apply this to all the alderman
North side section 8 housing support? what developer/ real estate attorney contributed to the alderthief
What railroads / lobbyists contributed to the alderthief
What street gang / organized crime unit contributed to the alderthief
What organizations are benefiting from the tif thefts
Use those skills and experience gained over decades to shed some anticeptic sunlight on the cesspool
Perhaps a group of experienced and motivated retirees
The supposed "watchdogs" of the media and other groups aren't doing their job, in fact it is clear that they are complicit in the government industrial syndicate
Wanna drain the swamp? Bring in the independent professionals
Worked the westside in the 70''s. Around Madison and Rockwell whenever a train came by, the fools broke into it, took the property and fled. Most times threw the boxes off the train to the embankment and came back later
Don't think they were planned, just an opportunity and took what was in the cars. Hit and miss
I have read that the athetic shoe companies protect the shipments of high end shoes by sending the left shoe in one shipment and the right shoe a few days later. If shoes are so valuable that they warrant extra special shipment procedures, why is it that guns can be shipped with just a padlock separating the loot from the gang bangers?
Wait a minute. Certain thieving cretinous wretches are stealing guns and then using them to kill each other? Other than the theft, what is the problem?
What are the chances that Chancellor Bennet's $1M check bounces?
Ah the 70's. Welcome to Rhams world and man does it suck. You know what was a great radio zone to listen to back in the 70's? KUN-507 zone 11. The old 20th at Foster and Winchester. Good old Henry. What a guy.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
They have been braking into the box cars at 63rd st west of King Dr. since I was parachuted out of the academy to the 003rd district in 1973. So this is nothing NEW to the P..O.s who worked in these districts and your right SCC out of several hundred box cars in that rail yard they hit the right ones ? Just Getto luck I guess !
Stay F E T A L boys and girls The more trouble in this city the quicker we get rid of the 9.5 Tiny dancing Muther Hubber .Remember this you have NO friend in the Politicians in this the most Corrupt City in America You protect yourself and your partner out there and to HELL with the people who would put you in Prison and ruin you and your families Life !!!!!
3/06/2017 06:44:00 AM
The 3rd district use to build some of the best street coppers in the city.Some of us are still strewn around the city always greatfull to have learned from patient old school coppers.If you walked up the 6217 building you can make it anywhere.God Bless
When are we going to tax politicians?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Ah the 70's. Welcome to Rhams world and man does it suck. You know what was a great radio zone to listen to back in the 70's? KUN-507 zone 11. The old 20th at Foster and Winchester. Good old Henry. What a guy.
John Cutler
(OT) And again another city same people like how the police chief has a new name for the thugs "nuggets of love":
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2017/03/06/philly-police-more-than-100-kids-participated-in-flash-mob-some-arrested/
8 years of barry and his people have nothing positive to show for it, no jobs,terrible schools, typical democratic ideals just like what has rahm done here for anyone except for the family and friends gimme some programs?
If you could shoot a fleeing burglary felon again, the thefts would stop.
How do they know what boxcar to hit?? If you get the chance, watch the HBO tv series "The Wire." The longshoremen knew which shipping containers to hit and which to avoid if the police had set a trap. Side Note: The Baltimore politicians were regularly lampooned just like SCC readers deal with the Jason Ervins of our shitty council.
Retired .38 spl +P
I suspect the guns were going UPS.
They would have been breaking in to a shipping container not a box car.
I say this because when I worked at a warehouse for True Value all our guns came and went via UPS. I was told this was due to federal regulations. A store sent a gun back in one of our trailers and the ATF literally made a federal case out of it.
The UPS hubs in Chicago have constant security problems. A few years ago shoe stores were getting Nike shoe boxes full of used shoes. They checked the tape and the package handlers in Chicago had swapped their shoes for new ones.
If you had some connection in one of the UPS offices, it would not be too hard to find out wich trailer had the guns in it.
Gun thefts from trains have been a big problem in Louisville Kentucky as well.
Here is a show about the biggest train theft gang.
Notice the police the interview talk about containers and trailers yet they show boxcars.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2po6un_masterminds-e039-the-conrail-boyz_tv
Now days you would not have to steal a radio.
You can get a VHF/UHF transmitter of off Amazon for less than $50
How do they know what boxcar to hit?? If you get the chance, watch the HBO tv series "The Wire." The longshoremen knew which shipping containers to hit and which to avoid if the police had set a trap. Side Note: The Baltimore politicians were regularly lampooned just like SCC readers deal with the Jason Ervins of our shitty council.
The fools that hit the trains at Madison and Rockwell are far from longshoremen
They used to throw the boxes off the trains and go back later to see their score. Crap they didn't want they left
Not sure watching TV police shows is a good way to gain knowledge about policing
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