Friday, March 03, 2017

Judge Hooks?

  • The judge in the case of four people charged with attacking and kidnapping a Crystal Lake teen with special needs told their public defender on Wednesday to consider whether it would be a conflict to represent all four.

    [...] The Cook County public defender’s office is representing Tesfaye Cooper, 18, Jordan Hill, 18, Tanishia Covington, 24, and her sister Brittany Covington, 19. Officials arrested the group in January after they allegedly attacked the 18-year-old victim.  The four were charged with a hate crime, aggravated kidnapping, aggravated battery with a deadly weapon and unlawful restraint. They pleaded not guilty and are being held without bail.

    Each defendant told Judge William Hooks that they did not have enough money for private lawyers. Hooks suggested there could be a conflict down the road if they all used the same public attorney, since the four adults may not have participated equally in the alleged torture.
We're sensing a lot of reversible error, and (just our opinion) Hooks is already assisting the defense more than is "impartial."

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

You've got it backwards, SCC. The judge is correct - a conflict is not just possible but likely. In the event any or all of the offenders are convicted, their defense counsel having a conflict of interest is likely to constitute reversible error. By making sure that any conflicts are dealt with now, the judge is protecting any future convictions from being overturned on appeal.

3/03/2017 12:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Looks like Judge Hooks is attempting to prevent an overturning of possible guilty verdicts upon appeal. I agree with the judge, the defendants need separate defense attorneys, even if they are all public defenders. No sense in giving the defense an opportunity to have possible guilty verdicts on all four reversed upon appeal.

3/03/2017 12:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


"We're sensing a lot of reversible error, and (just our opinion) Hooks is already assisting the defense more than is "impartial."

Yes sir, a slime out.

Question from a late common citizen: How Do We Get Rid Of This Shit?

My answer is its here to stay.

I speak from a different Austin back in time that was neighborly. Hey. cherch leeder,
enough money for your "GUARDIAN MINISTRY".

3/03/2017 01:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Trial by Hooks, all will be pled down to shit with little jail and paper. Hooks could care less. This case is now not news worthy and the media will bury it as these mutts laugh at a bar b q sipping Martel from a used plastic cup at Garfield Park in July 2018 .... maybe even memorial day next year.
Maybe our new attorney general/ not the Illinois crook, would like to have these termites be charged with a civil rights violation, they will then not see the hood for a few decades. Federal judge' don't play, handicap victim !! I would love to watch that trial and the mutts kin acting out in a federal court room. They will get a view at the MCC.
Ask slick Rod Blogo what happens when you want to play movie star while being tried in a federal court.
Federal judge's walk on water and have no humor with stone criminals. Got to love em !

3/03/2017 01:53:00 AM  
Anonymous BIG Spender said...

Come on!!

This is a cut-and-dried case. These people should be serving BIG time as there is NO excuse for torturing a special-needs person.

This case better result in LONG sentences for ALL involved otherwise, I really question the competency of Judges in the Cook County Court System.

None of them have money for attorneys?? I am sure they had money for tattoos and drugs.

AND, don't want to hear anything about "they want to turn their lives around now". Too late for that BS. This case should be getting a LOT more media attention than it has.

I am sure if it was reversed, four white people torturing a black or Hispanic, ABC, NBC, and CBS would be showing a daily segment on it at EVERY broadcast time.

This case is going to drift off into oblivion with one or two people going to jail and then getting a shortened sentence and the other two getting some supervision or probationary time - but no jail time.

That is NOT justice.




3/03/2017 02:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's the judge's job to make sure everyone gets the best defense possible, and to minimize the prison population of people of color.

3/03/2017 02:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It sounds like the judge is trying to prevent reversible error by nipping the argument for a conflict in the bud via getting them separate lawyers, no?

3/03/2017 03:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

COULD BE EITHER..........However this case must remain news worthy all the way thru so the light continues to shine on these cockroaches so they can't can't scurry away to anywhere but max sentence.............

3/03/2017 04:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Trial by Hooks, all will be pled down to shit with little jail and paper. Hooks could care less. This case is now not news worthy and the media will bury it as these mutts laugh at a bar b q sipping Martel from a used plastic cup at Garfield Park in July 2018 .... maybe even memorial day next year.
Maybe our new attorney general/ not the Illinois crook, would like to have these termites be charged with a civil rights violation, they will then not see the hood for a few decades. Federal judge' don't play, handicap victim !! I would love to watch that trial and the mutts kin acting out in a federal court room. They will get a view at the MCC.
Ask slick Rod Blogo what happens when you want to play movie star while being tried in a federal court.
Federal judge's walk on water and have no humor with stone criminals. Got to love em !

3/03/2017 01:53:00 AM
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Unfortunately, one of the elements of a "Civil Rights Violation," is "...acting under the color of law." In other words it applies to public officials only.

3/03/2017 05:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hooks is a Crook, just gave a slap on the wrist to previously convicted DUI Park Ridge elitist drunk driver who killed an innocent, hard working, bicyclist...

3/03/2017 06:00:00 AM  
Blogger rosco said...

Don't worry, down the road this case will be forgotten and go away. the media will then too, sweep it under the rug. Downgraded to a mere unlawful restraint and simple battery.

3/03/2017 06:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The judge is playing it pretty straight here.

3/03/2017 06:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The powers that be keep complaining about gun laws, we do have a gun problem but we have more than enough laws to compensate, we have a Judge problem and Hooks is one of the worst. In private practice you wouldn't let him close on a house for you.

3/03/2017 06:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The fed will handle this case they will get a long sentence and they be very old when they get out

3/03/2017 06:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

maybe it is time to get a new union
this is the perfect storm contact expires election time let's vote desertification of fop and vote in a new bargaining agent. Money from FOP Lodge 7 will transfer to whom ever wins and we move on.
No hooks no games no clout No mayor

3/03/2017 06:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The judge is correct. Common sense. If they all had their own attorney nobody could raise the issue of conflict of interest. For an example, if one decides to plead out and cooperated a conflict now exist.

3/03/2017 06:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Had good arrest cases before Judge Hooks. He gave ADULT PROBATION sentences. Within months the scumbags had New arrest and violation of their PROBATION. This piece shit judge gave them ADULT PROBATION again on the violation. Thank god on the new arrest, another judge gave them PRISON.

3/03/2017 06:51:00 AM  
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...

The only conflict I see is that they are even getting a trial.

3/03/2017 07:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry SCC, I agree with the Judge. Hooks is a total clown but, in this case each defendant should have their own attorney. I don't want these idiots winning an appeal for a new trial because their lone lawyer screwed up. The Cook County States Attorneys Office should have suggested the same thing. This case made national news and should be treated as such.

In reality they probably have one lawyer so they are forced into a plea deal for very limited prison time. Cook County and Chicago wants this case to dissapper in a hurry!! This case hurts their farsical proggressive movement!!!!!!!!!

3/03/2017 07:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The judge is right about this. On a case like this a common defense is for the accused to blame the others, if they are all represented by the same attorney that creates a conflict.

3/03/2017 07:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Judge has a point. So maybe the court should Appoint Counsel, send in Loevy and Loevy at the prevailing rate which is far less than what they normally ask. Have each of the Defendants represented by high visibility Chicago Police hating firms. The Peoples Law Office could represent another defendant, again at the rate Public Defenders receive. So there is the answer those two law firms each representing one defendant and the Public Defender defending the other. These law firms pride themselves on representing the poor and oppressed, so step up to the Bar for these poor people of color. The fact that it took Bighead Ed more than a few days to figure out this was a Hate Crime is disturbing, and leads me to believe this case will be swept under the rug, because the victim was White. Be Careful, YOU are alone. The Media and the bosses have abandoned you, and it will get worse as Rahm's Political Demise draws closer! Baby "G"

3/03/2017 07:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SC, wrong. Judge Hooks was trying to prevent big, reversible error in the future.

3/03/2017 07:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC, you're connecting dots that aren't there.

Several of your commenters have it right -- starting with Anon 3/3 @ 12:13 a.m.:

You've got it backwards, SCC. The judge is correct - a conflict is not just possible but likely. In the event any or all of the offenders are convicted, their defense counsel having a conflict of interest is likely to constitute reversible error. By making sure that any conflicts are dealt with now, the judge is protecting any future convictions from being overturned on appeal.

As for Judge Hooks, he is an Eagle Scout, a retired Marine Corps Lieutenant Colonel, with a background in intelligence. He didn't just do criminal cases; he also spent time while in private practice doing insurance defense work (representing individuals and companies in civil cases on behalf of their insurers). He's a marathoner.

Yes, he was slated by the Party when he ran in 2010 -- after being appointed by the Supreme Court -- and one of his big early backers was the late R. Eugene Pincham. He was also rated Highly Qualified by the CBA and ISBA and Well Qualified by the Chicago Council of Lawyers. He's got Chicago Establishment cred -- but he's no machine hack.

Reserve your judgment, SCC.

3/03/2017 07:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was unfortunate enough to catch Hook's act up close when he worked as an attorney for R. Eugene Pincham. I can only imagine him as a judge.

3/03/2017 07:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The judge may be right but the taxpayer is the one that's going to get stuck, again. Paying to defend people that would torture a mentally handicapped young man.
Try them, then hang them from the trees outside the courthouse. Show them the same mercy they would give their victims.

J.J.

3/03/2017 07:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with the judge. We don't want the convictions overturned down the road and then have these hate filled criminals demand reparations. Do it right, do it now, lock them up for life.

3/03/2017 07:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Civilian here (and an attorney)

Judge Hooks is correct. Each defendant should be able to provide him- or herself with a defense that benefits them...not the others. To prevent any conflict of interest issues in the future, each defendant needs to get their own attorney in the initial stages of the case. No story here.

3/03/2017 08:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They should have separate attorneys so they can't ask for retrials when they get convicted . The single attorney could be an attempt by the public attorney looking down the road for a retrial

3/03/2017 08:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How are they going to turn on one another if they have the same attorney? At the very least if they have separate lawyers this circus can turn into Jerry Springer. I say give em the extra lawyers, but give em no quarter either when it comes to cutting a deal.

3/03/2017 08:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with the judge. This will prevent appeals down the road. Likely they will all make deals and possibly flip on each other saying that person was the ring leader or it was his idea and I was cohered into participation blah blah blah bullshit. Slam dunk case they will turn on each other quickly.

3/03/2017 08:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They were just funin.

3/03/2017 09:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"You've got it backwards, SCC. The judge is correct - a conflict is not just possible but likely. In the event any or all of the offenders are convicted, their defense counsel having a conflict of interest is likely to constitute reversible error. By making sure that any conflicts are dealt with now, the judge is protecting any future convictions from being overturned on appeal."


Spot on. If Foxx's people don't push the issue, they are negligent.

3/03/2017 09:30:00 AM  
Blogger Cuthbert J. Twillie said...

Damn this is FUBAR. This case already has Mistrial written all over it. Or if the one lawyer remains for the four defendants and found guilty, overturned on Appeal for 'Inadequate Representation', i.e: ....
---> Examples of Inadequate Representation [FindLaw.com]<---
Some of the more common claims of inadequate representation that would unfairly prejudice a case could include an attorney's: ......
===>Failure to determine whether there would be a conflict with representation<===

It seems that the judge was trying to avoid a problem. But if he said it in open court and not in his chambers that could be a problem too I would think.

[Not a lawyer, this is just my opinion. Your mileage may vary]

3/03/2017 09:45:00 AM  
Blogger BirdsnBlooms1 said...

Thankfully, obama isn't president. The four pukes would be pardoned in no time.
Liberal reporters would write pity stories...
Last but not least, CPD would be blamed.

3/03/2017 10:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Watch and see how many of these dogs walk. That poor child will have to live with this the rest of his life and the savages what they did should be going to prison for a minimum of 10 years as a lesson to anybody else that thinks about doing something is out rages as this. I wonder if President Trump will send in Senator Senator now Attorney General Jeff sessions in here in order to bring these charges to what they should probably be federal civil rights violations if it was reversed if it was white and black all you could better marching in the streets would be would be tremendous. There will be violence it in every everything that goes with it these people need to be put in prison what did they say law is blind well let's make it wine and like the savages up for as long as we possibly can lessons to everyone else that may try to do this this this was blatant racism.

On another note looks like chance the rapper is going to meet with Bruce he must be really excited because he's going to show him how to budget for the Chicago public schools Bruce is a multi multimillionaire many times over but he needs a punk rapper like this to tell him how to budget for schools. It's a crazy world when somebody like Bruce refuses to meet with the president of United States of America but yet bends over backwards it begs the rapper to meet with him because he knows how to advise him in the what he should be doing.
Then just reading where Susie Mendoza the former city clerk is taking a big state job and hired 33 additional people will firing 13 people talk about somebody that has no idea how to how to run an office and how to budget first she buys a vehicle that many say what work was not needed using of course text payers find funding Suzies going to run for the Secretary of State really soon let's hope it will that we can turn the state around and make it Republican and get some integrity back into the office.

3/03/2017 10:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/03/argentinian-dreamer-with-expired-daca-to-be-deported-without-hearing.html

Now come in legally no loss to USA 🇺🇸!

3/03/2017 12:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Seems like the judge is just trying to make sure that the trial is handled in a judicially fair manner, at least procedurally, from the get-go.

I still don't have a lot of hope for there to be any real consequence of value or significance faced by the offenders. I wish news outlets invested any sort of long-term follow up on these cases, because I would be willing to bet that in 10 years all the accused are unwed single parents with dead-end jobs (more like hustles) and additional arrests. The media can blame society, their parents, the school system, etc. The fact is, they made a conscious decision to make that mentally handicapped young man drink toilet water, etc. No one made them do those things. The blame lies with them. But trust me, it will be presented in court by their defense that this is everyone else's fault. There is no accountability for this demographic. Meantime, they say I should be a accountable for slavery and owe reparations - although my grandparents all legally immigrated from Europe 50 years after slavery ended. But I should be accountable for an institution they never endured. Because slavery made them make that kid say "I love black people" and "trump sucks" and drink toilet water. We live in bizarro world and it is not only accommodated but perpetuated by the liberal nuts to whom this makes sense.

3/03/2017 12:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about some community service and just close the case.

3/03/2017 12:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Examples of interest, compassion and forbearance must be followed when representing the feral underprivileged young folks.
Timbo C. Evans, who may be on the way out and on the tenured legal stature of KabriniKimm, probably promised Hookie, a bonefide social justice reformer, a bump up if things should happen to draw out past the 2019 City elections.

Why wasn't this case sent and tried in Kane County ?

3/03/2017 01:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No such thing as a bad boy in Cook County.

So said Commander Dindu Nuffin........

3/03/2017 01:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree. The judge is trying to prevent guilty verdicts being overturned.
The judge doesn't want crap like that on his record.

Imagine this,
The judge doesn't do anything like this. The scum all get convicted and twenty to forty years.
One public defender at their trial? All verdicts are overturned.
Retrial, what retrial? The States Attorney accepts plea deals for the two to three years time served, because this is old news.

I want this scum to get scrupulously fair trials. I want them to be found as guilty as they actually are, and then spend the rest of their lives in prison. Too bad Illinois doesn't have capital punishment!

3/03/2017 01:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is actually exposed here is the fatal flaw that is "public defender". All of them is the same as one of them, as they all work for the same boss anyway. Likening it to the private sector, having one partner or four different partners all at the same firm is a distinction without a difference. On a fundamental level, all the pubic defenders work at the same "firm".

It is exposed also that the LAW people are expected to adhere to is so complicated that people can not in any way be actually able to adhere. Indeed, people can not walk into court and defend THEMSELVES because the PROCESS is so incredibly complicated that they can't even understand the process itself, much less how to defend themselves. Here is why that matters in this case.

Rarely do we see such a proven and undeniable self evident crime as witnessed here. People say the victim is "special needs"? That he is the retarded one? Look at the Offenders....they are so retarded, to mentally defective, that they don't understand that what they were doing was criminal????? Really? Of course the KNEW it was criminal, they just did not care! Getting them OUT OF IT is what "publice defenders are for. Uh uh. N Da b FREE 2!

This should have been tried in a week, with a jury witnessing these four WATCHING the video and then asked "See that, see what everyone can SEE what you did there? Um how do you plead then, guilty or not guilty?" If they say Not Guilty, so be it - send it to the jury, and then sentence them, because their GUILT is not in question!
THe only thing STOPPING justice from being done is the pathetic PROCESS itself!

3/03/2017 02:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This judge is looking for a way to dismiss this pos thugs watch and see, nothing like hinting to the lawyer how to help the scum that did this, thought a so called judge was impartial not in crook county of course! Then we have this Fox world news headline:

As Chicago crime soars, local group 'violence interrupters' sees funds dry up

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/03/as-chicago-crime-soars-local-group-violence-interrupters-sees-funds-dry-up.html

partial story:

CHICAGO – Don didn’t hesitate to give an honest answer when I asked him how he makes his money.

“I rob, I sell drugs,” he said. He wore the long, tight braids you see on NFL players, a flat-brimmed ball cap and hooded sweatshirt with an airbrush logo of a name he uses for his rap music act.

Don fit a pretty typical mold of a kid who turns to the gangster lifestyle. His father was not around and his mother had more children than she could afford. He started hanging out with gangs when he was about 9 years old. Referring to members of his section of the violent Vice Lords gang, he uses the word “family.”

Don’s specialty is robbing people.

While planning a robbery earlier this year, he sought the help of a childhood friend and fellow vice lord who goes by the name Red. “He told me about this hit he was going to do,” Red said, “I went and told one crew that he was plotting on.”

Then the hero hmm didnt he beat his wife:
Tio Hardiman and his small group that he calls violence interrupters heard about the feud and got themselves involved. Hardiman says he has a proven technique for de-escalating feuds. Essentially, he isolates the feuding parties and talks them down

Yes just keep throwing scarce tax money at the problems what is going to happen when president Trump keeps his promise and stops the over 1 billion in funding due to rahm standing strong for illegal criminal invaders violating federal laws? Personally retiring soon going down to Florida to look at property a Red state that supports "law and order" rahm-toni-tommy-bruce-the 50 have sent this place into total oblivion no wonder so many are leaving as the SS Chicago rapidly sinks further into the abyss!

3/03/2017 04:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Judge Hooks wants four chances to let these mutts go and didn't like the dumbass PD that was defending them. Make no mistake about it, Hooks hates the police and will do anything he can to keep shitbag out of jail. Just watch how this one plays out.

3/03/2017 05:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He is a former defense attorney what do you expect.

3/03/2017 06:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hate to say it but that's not a help to the defense that's a help to the state. Hooks just took that element out for a possible appeal in the future. Get your facts right guys, this was actually a good thing. Hooks was a marine, he doesn't stand for CPD creative writing and bad testifying. Hey, do me a favor, when you are sitting at court listen to some of the coppers testify and read their reports. There's a reason so many cases are thrown out. Writing reports, following the law and articulating probable cause is not a strong suit here at cpd. I love when other cops pout because a case gets tossed out at a motion. One guy wrote up his case and said the offender threw a shined objet over a tall fence in a vacant lot which he lost site of. He could only tell that a it was a shiney object and not a gun. Lawyer says was there any garbage or clutter on the ground in this ghetto lot and cop says yes bottles, rocks, and other stuff. Motion granted. Cop comes back and pouts and whines and blames the judge and the state. We all know that most coppers on this job think they are the smartest guys out there and write the best paper so it wasn't his fault it was everyone else's. Here's a little hint, you either saw the gun or you didn't. If you didn't see him throw it but want the charge so you think you will play it safe and just testify that you saw him throw a shiney object then that's moronic. If you're gonna lie just a little it's the same as a big lie so you need to decide if you are gonna go all they way and do it right or just do nothing at all. Don't be mad when you write a half assed weak case giving the. Bad guy an out because you are worried about going all the way. It's not hooks fault people on this job are so dumb.

3/03/2017 06:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, he was slated by the Party when he ran in 2010 -- after being appointed by the Supreme Court -- and one of his big early backers was the late R. Eugene Pincham. He was also rated Highly Qualified by the CBA and ISBA and Well Qualified by the Chicago Council of Lawyers. He's got Chicago Establishment cred -- but he's no machine hack.

Most Assistant Attorneys at 26 and Cal felt Pincham was a racist back in the day.

3/03/2017 06:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, he was slated by the Party when he ran in 2010 -- after being appointed by the Supreme Court -- and one of his big early backers was the late R. Eugene Pincham. He was also rated Highly Qualified by the CBA and ISBA and Well Qualified by the Chicago Council of Lawyers. He's got Chicago Establishment cred -- but he's no machine hack.

Reserve your judgment, SCC
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Telling SCC to reserve his Judgement, - How about Fuck you Mr. Police Lawyer working 1st watch in 015. I was in that asshole Pincham' court many a time. He gave million I bonds to a rat charged with murder. Hated the police and any victim who were white. He freed murder' by direct findings mid trial. Hooks was his guy and learned hate the police and whitey quite well. These 4 mutts will spend shit time in the joint.
So Mr. Police Lawyer, you are a chump and Hooks recommendations by bull shit left wing associations means shit. Now go do some relatives last will pro-bono. Quite sure you got your law degree on the city' dime and sitting on 1st. watch reading Doe VS. Moe. Pincham made no bones his hate for non blacks.

3/03/2017 09:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So pick 4 public defenders, erect the proverbial Chinese wall, and move the fuck on... a 4 of those jagoffs need to be in prison forever...

3/03/2017 10:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

File a complaint with the Judicial Inquiry Board

3/03/2017 10:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm curious...when these mutts are found not guilty, where are we supposed to meet to start burning down our neighborhoods? Is there some sort of rendezvous point, or do we just start rioting and looting first chance we get? I apologize in advance, I missed the meeting last time.

3/04/2017 02:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I'm curious...when these mutts are found not guilty, where are we supposed to meet to start burning down our neighborhoods? Is there some sort of rendezvous point, or do we just start rioting and looting first chance we get? I apologize in advance, I missed the meeting last time.

3/04/2017 02:14:00 PM

1967 - Summer of Love

2017 - Summer of Hate

Speaking of rioting . . .

https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2012/09/03/bracken-when-the-music-stops-how-americas-cities-may-explode-in-violence/

Pretty interesting what if? kind of scenario, with some alternative tactical ideas - in a strictly hypothetical, academic kind of way, of course.

3/04/2017 07:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Judge Hooks is bad but Judge Luckman out of branch 42 is even worse.

3/04/2017 07:52:00 PM  

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