Mope-rah - Economist
No idea what reality this hack lives in, but it must be full of all sort of heavy drugs (no links for Mope-y):
- It is hard to believe, but 75th Street, between Jeffery and Yates, was jumping in the ’80s. Today, when you drive through the area, you might see two or three stragglers. Outside of fast-food joints, there are more vacant storefronts than there are retail establishments.
The residents living in this part of the city take the desolation in stride. On Saturday mornings, they get in their cars or catch a bus to Hyde Park or the South Loop to enjoy the ambience that makes those other neighborhoods so attractive.
So you can imagine how excited they were when Mayor Rahm Emanuel announced he wants to turn some of the city’s blighted retail corridors into “Retail Thrive Zones.” The City Hall plan is to use $16 million from local tax-increment-financing districts to create jobs and provide shopping choices that would bring more pedestrian and automobile traffic.
The neighborhoods that would benefit from the mayor’s plan include Austin, Back of the Yards, Bronzeville, Chatham, Englewood, South Shore, West Humboldt Park and West Pullman.
Correct us if we're wrong - CVS just shut down what was essentially a brand new store in the middle of 011/012 because the store losses outnumbered the store operating expenses every single month since they opened. That tells us that there isn't a business in existence that is going to "thrive" in any sort of zone that includes portions of Austin, Back of the Yards, Bronzeville, Chatham, Englewood, South Shore, West Humboldt Park and West Pullman.
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posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
77 Comments:
Hey, let's take the bus to Hyde Park to experience some "ambiance"!!! STFU Moprah.
If that neighborhood was functional in the 80's, it probably had much to do with the steel plant being open and the local men having legitimate jobs and traditional family structure.
The worst of all--Garfield Park--doesn't even get a mention.
Au Contraire Mr. SCC.
The Sidewalk Pharmaceutical sales do rather well in those places such as Austin, South Shore, Englewood...
Farmers are doing excellent with this mild winter in those Neighborhoods too.
Oh, I need to specify: LEAD Farmers.
Neiman Marcus, Givenchy, Nordstroms and Apple are opening flagship stores on 75th St. between Clyde and Luella.
Q: What's the difference between the South and West Sides of Chicago and the Chernobyl exclusion zone?
A: Chernobyl is getting better.
"It is hard to believe, but 75th Street, between Jeffery and Yates, was jumping in the ’80s. Today, when you drive through the area, you might see two or three stragglers. Outside of fast-food joints, there are more vacant storefronts than there are retail establishments."
"The 80s?" Ha. You should have seen it in the period before 1964. We went to the doctor there, shopped, everything. It was a great excursion for a kid.
The last I saw on Streetview, my doctor's office in what used to be the so-clean little medical building with its own pharmacy was a smashed-up, weedgrown, "FOR SALE" wreck.
Thus does the "community" take care its own bidness.
"It is hard to believe, but 75th Street, between Jeffery and Yates,
was jumping in the ’80s. Today, when you drive through..."
Mope-rah smoked some good shit before she key-stroked
this itchy-minded nonsense...
75th St. between Jeffery and Yates was GONE by the time
the 1980's rolled around.
Any "jumping" going on was in ducking that hot lead
flying around. Especially in that canyon of courtyard
buildings on 76th St. between Yates and Exchange.
Civic improvement would've been a MOAB even then.
Actually it is a typical progressive thing to do. They operate on feelings and emotion, not facts.
Ride the Red line to 001 and 018 the Shoplifters favorite place,Holding Offenders at Macy's is getting Old..
Anyone hear the sound of $16 million going down the swirling water of the toilet. Of course one has to ask who the developer is and what construction firm(s) with city ties are being used? Rahm needs campaign cash and the surest way is through the backdoor of corny capitalism government sponsored projects and paybacks in the form of campaign contributions.
Madison Ave and Roosevelt never recovered after the 68 riots. Businesses have enough to worry about with risk and competition to survive. Having to deal with the savages stealing and burning businesses is above and beyond.
Moperah that's why there are so many over priced arab owned stores in the ghetto. Its all about risk reward.
Moperah must be all excited to become a cheerleader for 9.5. She probably is writing the first draft of the Sun Slimes endorsement even though the election is a couple years away. Last post on the queen of journalism had someone asking where Mope rah lives.
Maywood - the village of eternal blight.
I would venture to say that a store or stall selling loose cigarettes and cigar leaves would prosper in a city backed, taxpayer funded, ghetto retail zone...
What about the thriving economic engine that used to be the outdoor mall and shops at 63 and halsted? Or the Homan square food desert Dominicks and movie theater? How long is it written into their contract that whole foods has to stay open before they tank the englewood store?
How many different ways can we find to burn money with no return whatsoever.
Thats EXACTLY how the whole City Of Gary Indiana went to the Dogs , and NEVER was it able to recover , and that's what will happen to Chicago if we dont get some real Leadership back into the City , and that's including all Depts , so much damage has already been done , and its hard to even see any light in the Near Future.
More money spent on bullshit when will this stop
is it me or does it seem like Rham, (the mayor that BLM wants his scalp) is pandering to the very community that he is going to be relying on in the next upcoming election in 19 months????
Driving around in those neighborhoods for over a decade now why would anyone start a business there. There is no civility, manners, responsibility and very little class. A Arab Gyro stand serves thru bullet-proof glass with no place to sit down inside. Nothing but young males wearing sagging pants and young females yelling at each other as a normal tone for conversation. They have no respect for their elders or anyone else for that matter. This is all the fault of the Democratic Party. They do have the media however, a media who lives far away from them and would never allow their children to sit in class with their children. Whos doing the killing, whos doing the robbing. Austin was a paradise in the 60's, what happened to change it?
Shouldn't it be "Retail Thieve Zone"
There goes 16 Million Dollars down the drain...
This will go forward. Rahm will spend the "tax payers" money to strong arm some known retail stores and give hefty grants to the mom and pop establishments to open in these areas. Within a year the mom and pop stores will be boarded up and the large retail will be announcing they too will be leaving.
Cue the un-washed masses, lead by JJ Jr., Sharpton and the phoney reverunds to protest and in the end it will be the polices fault.
Thank GOD I'm leaving this cesspool of a city for greener (and warmer) pastures!
Please try. Please thrive. Please stay away from my pretty loft.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Maybe if they install plexiglass turnstiles at the checkouts and don't allow customers to roam unescorted through the aisles. How about having customers submit their shopping lists to store employees and let the employees do their shopping for them.
It's all bullshit, 'It amazes me how everyone still falls for his BULLSHIT..
Read that as "Retail Theft Zones" and "tax-excrement-financing districts" and it could happen.
Again,
"Lowered crime is a precondition to economic revival, not its consequence".
Heather Mac Donald
These neighborhoods have closed McDonalds.
A McDonalds can make it anywhere, well almost.
Yeap ,that's just what they said about lake street,Madison St and ranDolph and now it's the west loop.so the count it out sooooo soon ,you will see yuppies jogging and walking their dogs down stoney island.
Why not Jefferson Park, Sauganash, Albany park, rogers park, etc.?
When is Mopey apperaing at the Improv of Laugh Factory?
Behahahaha!
Must be a lot of rich people in Chicago. This mayor never seems to have a problem coming up with millions upon millions of taxpayer dollars to fund fantasies, unless, of course, it's the CPD retirement fund.
J.J.
Thanks moperah, I'm add the south loop to my list of no-go zones
Hey SCC,
I hate to correct you, but there are "businesses" that tend to thrive in those areas. And while the generate a lot of foot and vehicle traffic, they usually try to avoid the attention that a storefront would create
Oh there is business in those areas, just not the kind our mayor likes. Pharmacy sales, murder, mayhem and other types of inner city fuckery.
I hear business is good too.
>>>> It is hard to believe, but 75th Street, between Jeffery and Yates, was jumping in the ’80s. ~~||~~~ So you can imagine how excited they were when Mayor Rahm Emanuel announced he wants to turn some of the city’s blighted retail corridors into “Retail Thrive Zones. ~~||~~ ”The neighborhoods that would benefit from the mayor’s plan include Austin, Back of the Yards, Bronzeville, Chatham, Englewood, South Shore, West Humboldt Park and West Pullman. <<<<
No, Mzzz Mope-rah it's NOT hard to believe. That is, it's not if you're a native Chicagoan and old enough that you knew how to use a Slide Rule in your 'yute'. I admit that I don't know about all those neighborhoods mentioned but I know a bit about two of them, Englewood and Back of the Yards.
In the late 1950's Englewood 'was jumping' with a very Vibrant Retail Area at 63rd and Halstead. We bought our first Stereo Record Player at a store there. I got my first pair of glasses from another. And who could ever forget that palatial Englewood Movie Theater just East of Halstead on the North Side of the street. That matched any of the ones 'in the loop' for opulence. As I recall they had live Swans in a pool in the Lobby. But then in the early 1960's **something happened** in the area and all the stores closed and the movie theater shut down.
In the Back of the Yards the area of 47th St and Ashland 'jumped' too with a vibrant retail area until the mid to late 1960's. Small stores lined the streets with the Department Store, Goldblatt's, on the SW corner, with Drover's Bank on the North East corner of 47th Street. Then, like previously in Englewood, **something happened** and the stores closed, including Drover's Bank.
The **something happened** that was common to both areas was..(ta-da)..DEMOGRAPHICS.
So sorry Rahm, but until the demographics shift back by gentrification, your leftist utopian dream is doomed to failure.
I am sure anything Rahm creates will reverse the outward flow of people and economy from the city. Sorry Moperah, the problem is way too many unproductive people in the city and it will only continue to spiral. It is called the ebb and flow of capitalism and now we are in the flow towards decline.
If the liberal mind did NOT have the natural inability to understand prosperity she would know that government does not create jobs and prosperity. It more often stands in the way with regulation, set asides, taxation and other impediments only government can come up with.
to Leonard:
We didn't say no one spent any money.
We said shoplifting totals outpaced those of operation.
Remove the passage claiming we said something we obviously didn't, and go talk to the CVS people - we did, and it's no secret among any of their other store managers exactly why Madison-Kedzie closed down.
2:33 AM
Are you from NYC? It's Madison STREET here; NOT Madison Avenue.
More like "political jive zone" . Gibberish 💩
I'd be willing to open up a liquor, white tshirt, nacho cheese and chip store on the block if I thought the city would issue me a license. I'd make $200,000 a year dealing with the same shit ideal with now. Those places are gold mines if you can tolerate your customer base.
All of South Shore was jumping in the 60's and early 70's, from my recollection of 1964 we could ride our bicycles to the south shore YMCA, 71st & Crandon, swim for an hour, not lock our bikes to anything, not lock our clothes in a locker, come out and go to Italian Fiesta Pizza, 71st & Euclid, get a slice of pizza for 25 cents and ride home to play baseball later without concern of robbery, gunshots, being gangstered or any of the other thug bullshit that goes on now. We played summer pickup baseball in Rosenbloom park 75th & Jeffrey or football without looking over our shoulder for anything other than the game. There were movie theaters on 71st & 79th, shopping for clothing etc was on all the main streets 71st,75th,79th,87th and Commercial ave in South Chicago. It was a great neighborhood until the plague of gang bullshit started with the Black Stone Rangers sporadically in the very late 60's. By '74 the migration from the neighborhood was in full swing and now it is blight wherever you look.
I drive through now with my adult kids pointing out the fun spots of my youth and the places we hit with search warrants in my time on the job. There were a lot of Cops that grew up and worked there who can tell stories about how vibrant and safe it WAS.
I smell votes being bought. He knows minorities are done with him. Last ditch effort.
As always in Chicago.....Follow the $money. Just the mayor buying more votes for reelection. As long as he takes care of the politicians with their greasy hands out they will endorse him for reelection.
Putting new stores in downtown Chernobyl would stand a better chance of surviving than in Chicago. Pouring taxpayer dollars down another worthless bottomless Chicago rathole. Put that $16 million back into the city pension funds.
The "9.5 digit-midget" is tired of TRUMP bashing CHICAGO. Word has come outta City Hall that our 9.5 digit-midget wants the "bloodshed" stories to come to "f*n halt" and our liberal media is obeying like well neutered puppies. Take a look at the news cycle for the last 10 days...not many a peep about the violence except for one, small obscure article lumping all the shootings together daily.
SEEMS THE ONLY FASCIST "DICK-TATOR" WE HAVE IS THE RIGHT HERE IS CHICAGO.
rahm just doesn't want the "folks" to be pimpin down the gold coast.
tourist tend to go elsewhere..........
so he will waste 16 million and try
whole foods and starbucks in englewood will shut down very soon too
Define shoplifting. Please share that people are running out of stores with shopping carts full of shit. I have never seen it. Maybe a booster with a coat or two but those are from someone hitting a train, not a store. So I still call this some false narrative. There are thieves everywhere. You cannot have a city as large as Chicago and not support every area. Period. Every citizen deserves the basics. Just my opinion. I used to live in Bronzeville and it was a damn shame I had to go out of the area for basic needs.
Spread those NWSide tax dollars all over the place except where it's collected.
Potholes, several layers of re-patched sidesteets, sewer/manhole cover collapses, dead trees, crumbling sidewalks, 2-3 street sweeper visits a year and of course $8.50 for garbage pickup up...more than the $1.5 mil the 41st Ward can handle.
The penalty we pay because we care about where we live?
How about this, put up money, your idea, your business, work it for a year and write off losses or gains...like everyone else does.
Why hasn't 45th Ward - Section 8'Arena asking...DEMANDING business starts in his Ward?
Fuvking Democrats always looking to spend your money on Solyndra ideas.
If the area failed there has to be a reason. A little audit could shed a lot of light on the govmint money doled out to the pockets of the "community investors" like the kind Ald Troutman, Cochran and Rep Boob Rush had taken..,hmmmm?
Too bad the Fed used to end the investigation with the indictment. Any further digging might have turned back to City Hall.
Sorry obama doesn't live here anymore, you have to see Rahm for startup money.
The next thing Moperah will complain about is that the Middle Eastern and Koreans are taking up all the businesses.
Dont use logic or numbers with that idiot.
Its all about that job creation for blacks. Its a shame nobody else in this world counts and can be held to such low standards.
(OT) Here is something to cause more economic problems this pos former U.S. Attorney general acting "stupidly" saying this:
Loretta Lynch: Need more marching, blood, death on streets
Senate Dems post her impassioned plea on Facebook page as 'words of inspiration'
http://www.wnd.com/2017/03/loretta-lynch-need-more-marching-blood-death-on-streets/
Excerpt:
Without offering any specifics, Lynch goes on to say that “our rights” are “being assailed, being trampled on and even being rolled back.”
But the strongest words come in a statement that seems to suggest the answer is street action that will inevitably turn bloody and dead
Wonderful like barry obama calling for destruction of this once great country, she should be dragged in and criminally charged for inciting a riot calling for street action bloody and dead people!
Buy your ammo and weapons all that matters is #bluelivesmatter!
Yes, open a store right in the middle of people who thrive on shop lifting, burglary, robbery, property damage, drug dealing prostitution. Lets see how that goes. There is plenty of middle and upper class blacks that open business but where do they go to do this? Certainly not in Englewood or Gresham. Stupid they are not.
Stupid is running and ruining this city. The jobs created will be minimal, maybe 100 with a population of 37,000-47,000. The residents are poor and retail businesses will go bankrupt in a year or two as they do in North Lawndale. The businesses in the Homan/Kedzue mall have a more than 100% turnover because the residents can not afford toilet paper. Most businesses have locked their toilet tissue to the walls with bicycle locks after beckoning tired of replacing it. They also lose a lot of money to shoplifters. This city needs people to be responsible for their own lives and we need leaders who are smart, dedicated and not undercover criminals and backward thinkers as we now have.
OK sounds like someone's already been shopping in these areas and smoking "CRACK"!
I guess petty theft isn't so petty after all.
Whodathunkit?
"... the ambience that makes those other neighborhoods so attractive..."
That "ambience" comes from the fact that they don't live there. How many people are harassed and robbed by people who've cone to enjoy the ambience.
now, this sh*t is FUNNY :)wadda hoot
$16Million stolen for taxes unneeded by the Shitty, then usurped from the City in general, redistributed to a section of the Shitty to build a bunch of faux businesses in order to pay back a bunch of Contractors who 'got out da vote!' for the 9.5 tiny dancing midget. Those alleged businesses will be run by shell companies owned and operated by the Revrun's so they can employ 'da memberz of da community' for a week or two, until the windows get smashed out, someone gets shot, and the place burns to the ground...
Yep, everything's in order here - revitalization will commence in 60 seconds, last for 30, and then in about a year we'll hear the same ole same ole story about some "Once Vibrant Stretch" of the West Side...
*yawn* Same ole Dumbocrat nonsense. And 16 million more reasons to get the hell out of this State ASAP.
I remember the theatre with the swans in the lobby. Couldn't remember the name. We lived in /////////South Chgo but shopped on 63rd and Halsted a lot. Huge Goldblatts if I remember. It was a thriving area in the 40's and 50's. Too bad.
to those who wonder why.....businesses cannot and do not survive in "certain areas"....look in the mirror, then look around....what do you see?.....meaning, what do you really see?
Anonymous said...
is it me or does it seem like Rham, (the mayor that BLM wants his scalp) is pandering to the very community that he is going to be relying on in the next upcoming election in 19 months????
3/05/2017 06:36:00 AM
In twenty-three months.
Those with the least amount of accountability, come up with the best ideas on how to flush money down the drain the fastest. No doubt this is the kind of alternate reality crap being taught in schools now.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
All of South Shore was jumping in the 60's and early 70's, from my recollection of 1964 we could ride our bicycles to the south shore YMCA, 71st & Crandon, swim for an hour, not lock our bikes to anything, not lock our clothes in a locker, come out and go to Italian Fiesta Pizza, 71st & Euclid, get a slice of pizza for 25 cents and ride home to play baseball later without concern of robbery, gunshots, being gangstered or any of the other thug bullshit that goes on now. We played summer pickup baseball in Rosenbloom park 75th & Jeffrey or football without looking over our shoulder for anything other than the game. There were movie theaters on 71st & 79th, shopping for clothing etc was on all the main streets 71st,75th,79th,87th and Commercial ave in South Chicago. It was a great neighborhood until the plague of gang bullshit started with the Black Stone Rangers sporadically in the very late 60's. By '74 the migration from the neighborhood was in full swing and now it is blight wherever you look.
I drive through now with my adult kids pointing out the fun spots of my youth and the places we hit with search warrants in my time on the job. There were a lot of Cops that grew up and worked there who can tell stories about how vibrant and safe it WAS.
3/05/2017 11:06:00 AM
I think your timing is a bit off. I worked over there in 1971 and their was not much left on 71st street. A deli and a corner Greek type restaurant were decent. Everything else was gone.
Blogger Leonard Hamilton said...
Define shoplifting. Please share that people are running out of stores with shopping carts full of shit. I have never seen it. Maybe a booster with a coat or two but those are from someone hitting a train, not a store. So I still call this some false narrative. There are thieves everywhere. You cannot have a city as large as Chicago and not support every area. Period. Every citizen deserves the basics. Just my opinion. I used to live in Bronzeville and it was a damn shame I had to go out of the area for basic needs.
3/05/2017 12:55:00 PM
Define shoplifting!!!!!
Perfect illustration of the troll you are. Back to Tribune boards for you demon!!!!
I was born and raised in Hyde Park Kenwood _ returned 10 years ago. South Shore has definitely gone down but I think it will go up. The O Bummer library and the huge investment in making Jackson Park South Shore golf course a top rate golf course. The proximity to Lake Michigan, housing stock is great - I think South Shore will come back, come up.
Just turn over police and prosecution to President's Trump's team. AG Jeff Sessions is no nonsense.
We've hit rock bottom.
We're coming up.
If the democrats didn't sign the world trade agreement and the clinton's push to add china, you might still have a viable economy here.
Sad. Drive NW of 59th n Halstead.
Hey! on a happy note! Ram has money for bike lanes and trees...
It was the Southtown Theatre at 63rd and Lowe with the swans. My mother in law lived in Englewood and went there as a teen(now in her 70's). There is an Aldi store there now I believe. It was still there in 1990 (torn down in 1991) when I started in Englewood. The Englewood Theatre was at 63 and Emerald Drive and was torn down in 1995. I have some ticket stubs from The Englewood Theatre I managed to save before they tore it down along with some stubs from the Ideal Theatre (long gone when I started) that was directly across the street. I believe the old Englewood mall area hosted as many as seven theatres back in it's heyday
As a Physical Therapist I consulted a few times in 1985 at a brand new Senior Citizen center at 63rd and Halsted. Money had been poured into a couple of blocks on Halsted in what I think was a "new enterprise zone." The new stores all seemed to be filled with blue jean & T- shirt stores. Even then we couldn't enter the main entrance from the mall put parked in back and prayed someone would buzz you in the back door. I left Chicago a few years later, what happened to it?
$16 mil for a ghetto neighborhood but no money for squad cars to patrol neighbor hoods with 800 murders a yr and rising, next on the twilight zone.
Only in this city would people pay 750k for a downtown condo, 20g for property taxes and let a mayor get away with not buying /replacing squad cars to patrol their neighborhood ,next on your cpd twilight zone.
"But then in the early 1960's **something happened**"
3/05/2017 10:30:00 AM
Sure did.
What major piece of federal legislation was passed in 1964?
+++ 3/06/2017 04:13:00 AM ----> Sure did. What major piece of federal legislation was passed in 1964?" +++
Shush! We can't mention that. It'd be 'Raciss'.
Seriously, not only **that** piece of legislation, but the ones that followed in '65, '66, etc, etc.
Add to that the Liberal (Leftist) decisions that started coming out of the Supreme Court. The constitution and existing laws were being ignored as written with decisions based on 'what was right' ('right' to whom?), and to 'correct society's ills'. That era was basically the beginning of 'Social Justice' and a 'Living Constitution'.
Also, about a year ago or so I went back into Chicago's Homicide data starting in 1965 -- when *that* legislation was in effect. In 1965 there was 395 Homicides (371 cleared).
---- In '66 it went up to 510 w/ 448 cleared.
---- In '67 it went up to 552 w/ 503 cleared.
---- In '68 it went up to 647 w/ 616 cleared.
---- In '69 it went up to 715 w/ 613 cleared.
---- In '70 it went up to 810 w/ 727 cleared.
Those facts are self evident that the more liberal we became as a society, by Law or Court Decisions, the MORE society deteriorated.
Yup. I lived in South Shore in the middle 60s. Shoreland Deli, Cupid on 71st where you could get a soda and then go to a movie. Rainbow Beach and the Air show. Steel mill on 79th where people would go to work. And then my sister got the crap knocked out of her over a bottle of shampoo and a few bucks in change from Price Right. And that was it. Moved the hell out of there. My sister went to Aquinas girls high school. They had a rim fire range in the basement and taught gun safety and marksmanship. Man, what a world away.
Several neighborhood were solid in the beginning of the 1960s and went to hell by the end of the decade. Englewood, South Shore, Roseland, Pilsen, Little Village, South Chicago, and Auburn Gresham just to name a few. I'm sure I'm missing some.
Your twinkle-toe mayor or his lackeys came up with a new Orwellian euphemism--Retail Thrive Zone. Is that anything like an "Enterprise Zone"? I will add this made-up term to my list of euphemisms used by dying cities to dance around the fact that their cities are dying because of their vibrant diversity, refugees, and illegal aliens. This euphemism should give the city about a year's worth of cover until there is no improvement and the issue is raised again. I used no racist terms in this comment. Hopefully, it will make it through.
Hey Leonard Hamilton...
It's not simply the shoplifting that forces stores to close in low income areas.
It's a culmination of the shoppers cars being broken into, bust outs hanging in front and in the parking lot begging and placing customers in fear, gang bangers doing what gang bangers do...hanging out in front inviting easy targets for their "OPS" to shoot em up but mostly missing and hitting innocent citizens.
All those combined factors lead to a reduction in customers, sales, profits. Simple math.
Let alone the lack of dependable employees who show up on time and not reeking of weed.
It really is exhausting how the ignorance as to the reality that is Chicago must be repeated time and again.
Close to 80% of the violent crime in the city of chicago is committed by and toward blacks.
Why in the hell, and how can it be, profitable and wise for a business to open its doors in an area where the cost of doing this (insurance premiums) far outweighs the payoff from downtown.
The reason for the crime is not the police departments problem.
The reason for the crime is not a lack of jobs.
The reason for the crime is a community that lives for the next 5 minutes. That would rather get a hand out then a hand up, that relies on the government to pay its way through life. This problem began in the late 50's and early 60's. It was told if you are married and have kids, you get NO benefits. The democratic party created this addiction to laziness and continues to breed fatherless sociopaths which in turn creates violence.
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