Runoff
So there's a runoff for president. Again. No unanimous ticket won all the spots, so the race for president is now the direction the FOP is going to go. What we mean by that is that the president is under no obligation to to have the elected Vice Presidents, Recording Secretary, Financial Secretary or Treasurer fill the inside spots. He can pick anybody to be inside, leaving the elected representatives who aren't to his liking as nothing more than fancy titles pushing a beat car.
Has there ever been an effort to pass an amendment to the By-Laws that states "the elected representatives" will be the ones actually in the office? That's why we elected them - not so the president could flout the will of the membership and put in his cronies.
Who has the list of Trustees who won?
Has there ever been an effort to pass an amendment to the By-Laws that states "the elected representatives" will be the ones actually in the office? That's why we elected them - not so the president could flout the will of the membership and put in his cronies.
Who has the list of Trustees who won?
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
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Do the electees get the D5 pay if they don't work in the office??
An attempt has been made on a couple of occasions for a by-law that would address this situation and those proposals were either struck down by the by-law committee or lost when voted on at the general meeting.
What is also interesting is once again you have a board that is made up of a majority of retired members.
There were a handful of good PO's on the ballot who would have made good trusstees but were drowned out again by the retiree clout.
So sad.....you all bitch but don't vote...we have been and always will be our worst enemy
You would know if you ever went to a meeting!
But again you would actually have to waste 2 1/2 hours a month at a meeting!
Anytime this comes up or anything about retiree votes the current PREZ buses in old timers with a free lunch who clutter up meeting crying about how they built the FOP.
By the way that minority votes was so low it was laughable.
No office holder of any other color?
and trustee is not an office they are a spot who the prez decides if you matter.
Time for some revamps of the bylaws shield,Cruz,merk,mcdonagh,bartlett,ferenzi,kilmer,whicher,francis and the other losers time to man up! Either fix it or go back to working the buses at special employment!
AND the pizza sucked too DEAN!!! college goof your son did not even show up!
Please tell me that Dougherty and Donahue did not win trustee slots.
Just like anything else in this city, the fix is in.
Who the Hell voted for Angelo, WAKE UP!
Good question - where's the list of winning trustees? Checked the FOP website and nothing on the trustees. Typical Deano - even on Election Day. Another reason Deano provides you to vote his goofy, cheating, lying ass out of FOP
Hey Mr. Graham, how about asking for a different assignment? Think we buy your independence theme when your assignment is sitting on Rahmulus's house detail?
I would like to say thanks to everyone who voted for me AND those who didn't vote for me, but still took the time to vote. This was the first time I ran and it was a great experience. To the people I had an opportunity to address at roll calls thank you for taking the time to listen and for the questions you asked. I wish there was more time to see and speak to more of you before the election took place. For those of you who didn't vote this time, please reconsider and vote in the upcoming Presidential run-off. In the upcoming contract negotiations the City is going to be trying hard to change our discipline. Raises, insurance, retro-pay, -none of that will matter if you or I don't have a job because we are fired. The City is going to be pressing hard to change our discipline as is evident from the new C.R.matrix. Please -take the time to find out what these candidates stand for and what have they done. Who will stand up for us? This is OUR "union". We need to get this vote right because our futures depend on it.
Thanks again,
Stay safe-
Joe Ferenzi
Actually Dean in the last election said that he was going to bring in the winners. Guess what Dean lied. He brought in three people that lost. He brought in Tom McDoungh, Marlon Harvey and Keith Carter. A by-law change was submitted and Dean told everyone to vote against it. Dean has lied from day one in office. Dean is done and needs to be sent away!
If that's true then it looks like Pat Murray bought all his votes for nothing!
LoL!!!
Dean needs to go. I voted for him three years ago and man what a disappointment. My last two picks were Shields and Angelo. Worst two picks for president in Fop history. I'm voting for Graham. Lets move on.
I commented on the previous FOP Runoff thread at the end.
Reading all the complaints about the FOP for the last several years, the membership better wake up and go out and vote.
From the outside, the FOP looks like a bunch of incompetents at best and sellouts at worst.
My rule of thumb is - when in doubt, vote the incumbent out.
Fuck dean the old retire guys vote !
Disability Dean has got to go. He's so in the pocket of the mayor that he has Rahm's car keys dangling from his nose. I may not agree with everything Graham stands for but if Kevin doesn't do for us then we can kick his butt out next election. You may not have thought your vote was important before but a Dean Angelo victory in this runoff will guarantee there are no dissenting voices left at the FOP and police officers in this city will continue to get bulldozed over.
one of the biggest problems with the FOP. Elected representatives should hold there office.
Someone, needs to change the amendments or constitution so the elected officials serve in the
office they were elected for. Otherwise it's just patronage, as usual. Retiree's should not be allowed
in a general election either. They should have retiree representatives that they are entitled to vote for.
Too long have FOP elections been decided by retiree's. I'm close to retirement myself, bu it is about
the working copper on the street.
Dean was as dumb as a box of rocks no lost here
We are about to fight for our lives in the next contract and we might elect a guy with NO Experience!!!! Remember what happened with Shields!!! I am voting for Angelo.
Fuck dean I pay 1,250 for my insurance game over we retire guys VOTE
9 out of 17 elected trustees are RETIRED! Soon to be 10 out of 17 when another retirees soon with the 55 and out medical program. 2 of 3 Sgt of Arms are retired. Recording secretary retired. Why the fuck are these many retirees running the union when they have zero ability to vote on any active matters?
Dean he done close the door on your way out
Rahm likes the FOP rules. All he has to do is control the president.
If you voted for Angelo, then go stand in front of a mirror, point your finger at your head,
and then say what the abbreviation is for the word "mountain." That's right M-T, as in empty skull idiots.
What is wrong with you people? Angelo has been a useless puppet since he's been in there.
Granted, all of the past presidents have been, but there is no hope if we don't at least try to change the status quo!
I thought the cops I worked with were the last sane people left in the city. This proves I'm wrong!
I'm done! I will never vote again! I wash my hands of all of it! The union, the job, & the city!
Kiss my ass!!
Heard around 8500/8600 ballots
Heard around 2000 were active
The rest were retiree's
WTH is wrong with you guys/gals working?
Can't be bothered to vote?
You want retiree's deciding who runs the FOP?
Those that did not vote are stupid.
Good way to drain the swamp from the past vultures lining their pockets with all the perks from dues money
Yes and it was shot down every time. The president wants reps who will follow orders and not make waves.....straight from Dean's mouth, i should have the freedom to pick who i want so i dont get stuck with guys i who do whatever they want.
John Catanzara 008
P.s. most would never be pushing a beat car since we seldom elect patrolman....hell we yet AGAIN have retirees all over the board. #changeiscoming
I've been retired for several years now. I will say to all of you active members, stick with Dean Angelo. I feel he's the best candidate of all who ran for FOP president, and he's got my vote.
if Dean wins....Pat Murray is out...he will be 172 and 1st vice president....
The FOP is in big trouble. With the contract expiring on 30 June 2017, which one, if any newly elected members has an once if experience to negotiate a contract?
As the saying goes people" "Be careful what you wish for, you just may get it".
It's ours now.
I am looking at the picture of the Blue Voice ticket and tryin to figure out who Graham brings upstairs? Does Bill Dougherty get 2nd VP, Rich Aguilar get 1st VP? Many guys that were elected by the membership will not see the light of day upstairs. Pat Murray won his spot and deserves to be up stairs where he was elected. Here is a crazy thought...Kevin Graham brings up Mike Shields to try and get some of his 1700 votes. Sounds like a bad re-run with all the same people fighting to get upstairs. Mark, Billy, Mike Shields, Rich and Sid will all be up there in some capacity. So how was this election about change? Atleast with Dean I know what I am getting. I'm done in 3 years and hope whoever wins that the 55-65 healthcare is in this next contract. This is goi g to be a tough choice, but my gut says Dean for this contract and term. Let's all remember that our last contract was negotiated by some of the Blue Voice team and when Dean was elected most of the contract was already negotiated.
Yes, a copper who regularly signs his name here did submit a By-Law proposal establishing what positions will be "inside". Well, coppers (active and retired) in attendance of the meeting in Sept 2014 voted it down. They actually verbally berated the submitted.
Can someone post all the results? Thanks
"Has there ever been an effort to pass an amendment to the By-Laws that states "the elected representatives" will be the ones actually in the office? That's why we elected them - not so the president could flout the will of the membership and put in his cronies."
Our lodge has all elected officers running the show. It worked well until the elected President and Vice-President, from two opposite sides of the coin (president standing for member's goals, VP favored by the administration), were put into office. There was more turmoil with the command staff flexing their muscles, more back-stabbing and back-room deals than ever before. The two elected "leaders" became more interested in discrediting the other, all at our expense. Support for grunts like us flew out the window that lousy term!
It didn't take long to realize the grass is never greener elsewhere.
Your 100% correct SCC...that's total BS and needs to be changed. That would mean if Dean Angelo wins Marty Prieb and others could be out thwarting the will of the members. This is just one of the reasons why we all need to vote Kevin Graham. We DO NOT want Angelo negotiating our contract! The thought of this is scary. He has remained silent more than ever and hasn't protected our pension like he should have. He had his chance. We need a new crew. SCC...We know you feel the same way. We sure could use your endorsement of Kevin Graham. Let's give him 3 years and if he fails he's out.
I would like for the NATIONAL FOP come in and take over this mess. That will never happen. Maybe put that on a ballot? Too much childish backstabbing
Kevin graham reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where morty Seinfeld has Kramer run for Del boca vista president. Morty is the puppet master and Kramer is the puppet. With Graham, Donohue will be the puppet master and Graham his puppet. Not saying dean is the choice but we are fucked.
I agree with an earlier poster it's a Giant douche vs. a turd sandwhich!!!!!
This election is BS! You have active and retired Sgts voting while a lot of blue shirts didn't even get a ballot. Talk about a F'd up election process. Maybe the leadership should tighten up the process, but then again, this is how they may want it.
Retiree clout?? Wake up asshat - they get off their collective asses and VOTE! The FOP membership is a joke. Quit bitching. You had a chance to fix it, and failed again.
Anonymous said...
9 out of 17 elected trustees are RETIRED! Soon to be 10 out of 17 when another retirees soon with the 55 and out medical program. 2 of 3 Sgt of Arms are retired. Recording secretary retired. Why the fuck are these many retirees running the union when they have zero ability to vote on any active matters?
3/11/2017 05:39:00 AM
Because you active guys are to busy to get off your dead asses and vote, really pathetic and you will be bitching again when Dean Sr gets back in and screws you. By the way Dean Sr. will be a retiree himself in 2 months and it will be the first time in history that a retiree, who has no authority to negotiate a contract for active officers, would be at the chief negotiation position at the FOP. If this doesn't inspire you to get off your dead asses and vote,nothing will.
Anonymous said...
9 out of 17 elected trustees are RETIRED! Soon to be 10 out of 17 when another retirees soon with the 55 and out medical program. 2 of 3 Sgt of Arms are retired. Recording secretary retired. Why the fuck are these many retirees running the union when they have zero ability to vote on any active matters?
3/11/2017 05:39:00 AM
Your vote for president comes down to an active officer versus a retired officer. Dean will be mandatorily retired in 2 months and he must recuse himself from contract negotiations because as a retiree he can not negotiate a contract for the active members.
Why was Dean on disability for excess of ten years anyway? And now that he's nearing age 63 how is he not disabled any more? FOIA!
Mike Lappe didn't go on disability after being shot!
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1988-04-25/news/8803110711_1_officer-shot-hostage-barricade-plain-clothes
Why vote for a liar and scam artist?
Do the electees get the D5 pay if they don't work in the office??
3/11/2017 12:10:00 AM
No
Dean Angelo stole the last runoff election by promising Tom McDounough a field rep spot in exchange for throwing his support and all those who voted for him behind Dean in exchange for a field rep spot. McDounagh threw his support behind Dean and that support put him over in the runoff election and McDonough was awarded a field rep spot even though he was not elected. If you are tired of back room deals do not vote this scab back into office. This election boils down to Dean (Hillary) versus Kevin (Trump).
Anonymous said...
one of the biggest problems with the FOP. Elected representatives should hold there office.
Someone, needs to change the amendments or constitution so the elected officials serve in the
office they were elected for.
Dean was against this by law amendment last time it was presented because it took power away from the president and gave it back to the members.
Guys, we need Kevin Graham and Marty Prieb to get elected! This is so important. Marty Prieb has been the best voice EVER in supporting the police. He has shed light on a variety of issues that no one else has. Google him and read his stuff if you haven't already. This will be the most important contract ever and the media is already talking about it today. Our adversaries want to take away lots of stuff. Ask yourself....Do you really want Dean Angelo and his crew negotiating this very important contract? Hell NO!
Going through the FOP election list there are at least 13 retirees elected to represent active officers out of a possible 27 elected positions. Dean angelo will be 63 in a couple of months and if we elect him in the runoff election it will be the first time in the history of the FOP there will be a majority of retirees representing active officers, with a president and 13 retirees who cannot represent active officers in contract negotiations. Time to complete the swamp draining at FOP and vote for the active candidate Kevin Graham.
Guys, we need Kevin Graham and Marty Prieb to get elected! This is so important. Marty Prieb has been the best voice EVER in supporting the police. He has shed light on a variety of issues that no one else has. Google him and read his stuff if you haven't already. This will be the most important contract ever and the media is already talking about it today. Our adversaries want to take away lots of stuff. Ask yourself....Do you really want Dean Angelo and his crew negotiating this very important contract? Hell NO!
It comes down to active coppers not voting!!! I just don't get it. Are people not interested in what is going to be one of the most important contracts ever? Wtf!! Can steer the ship the right way by launching Angelo in this run off!! Graham cares about coppers and will do the right thing. And he isn't on mayors body guard team. He works in19 and is assigned to roving car since rahm lives in19! Don't be bamboozled!
Hopefully this time I'll actually get a ballot. I don't give a fuck if Graham takes out Rahm's garbage and waxes his Prius....Dean sat by and watched while we got raped by Demoncrats and the media for 4 years and did nothing.
Dean can not even do the minimum by updating the FOP website. The newsletter is still Jan. The easiest thing Dean can not do. He is a snake
This is bullshit. They don't give us the option to choose our representation by splitting the ticket? We basically have a straight ticket forced upon us. It is no wonder voter participation sucks.
Obviously a majority of FOP members think Dean's done more than a decent job, since he obtained the HIGHEST percentage vote in the election. The membership has spoken, wake up and smell the coffee. Don't be manipulated by KWG who decides to get elected by talking another three or four goofs into running for president just to force a runoff with Angelo. Underhanded and dirty and the puppet of Rich Aguilar and Bill Dougherty, who you KNOW will be running the 3rd floor if Graham wins. Dean's got contract negotiating experience and done a hell of a lot more for the membership than any of these "contenders". End the apathy, VOTE FOR DEAN.
I copied this from Carlos Rosa's 35th Ward Newsletter of March 10, 2017. He apparently thinks there is "ongoing and rampant" police misconduct in his ward.
Civilian Office of Police Accountability (COPA) is Hiring
In the wake of Laquan McDonald's murder and ongoing and rampant police misconduct, the City of Chicago replaced the Independent Police Review Authority (IPRA) with the Civilian Office of Police Accountability (COPA). COPA is now hiring investigators to ensure that our community is kept safe from police misconduct. To apply for a position at COPA, or to see positions currently available with the City of Chicago, visit the Chicago CAREERS site by clicking here.
It is just the perils of having a union.
Dean dumped fop Vice Presidents when he got in last time. Now I hear he's begging some of the same people he fired to endorse him in the run-off. My how the tables have turned...
Who was elected 1st vice president
We are about to fight for our lives in the next contract and we might elect a guy with NO Experience!!!! Remember what happened with Shields!!! I am voting for Angelo.
Are you kidding me?? Each and every FOP President over the last 25 years and the back stabbers with them have sold out the fop members. Shields was the only FOP President to stand up to city hall. Thats why they got rid of Him. So long Frank Dimaria... PRICK!
Ok, question to all you pushing for Graham. Do you really think he is going to be that much better? Isn't he on the mayors detail watching Rahms house or something? If he has that spot he must be connected to Rahm? I want a change to but is he really going the stand up to the city and rahm any better than Deano? Just asking. I do not know the man and would like to here from others about this!
We are about to fight for our lives in the next contract and we might elect a guy with NO Experience!!!! Remember what happened with Shields!!! I am voting for Angelo.
Dean has experience in lying to us. He said he was going to bring in the officers who won their positions. He did not do that. He brought in Keith Carter, Tom McDonough and Marlin Harvey. He refused to bring in elected officers Dan Gorman and Frank DiMaria.
Dean killed us with his "experience" in the last contract. The insurance alone is a disaster with the Two Tier system and the co-pays we never had before. Dean gave away furlough by unit, got nothing for it. Dean gave away duty availability for officers until they reach 42 months. Dean opened up the tuition reimbursement and lowered it to 75%. IF THIS IS EXPERIENCE WE DON'T NEED IT!
Oh my! What will happen to Dean's kids now? Junior's gradual movement up to the presidential slot isn't looking as likely since he didn't get elected to a trustee spot. At least he has his new detective spot which he legitimately earned. And his daughter? The one who worked hard for the right to be her Class Commander in the academy? As Commander, she gets to choose the District she gets assigned to. She will be just fine.
The kids are alright. In case you were worried about them.
025th District
Why is Sgt. Pancakes fucking with officers? Also do nothing wagon man J.M. is not happy and constantly bitching. Dude, you have not done one day of police work and yet you still bitch and complain. Stop it! All you have to do is stay on North Avenue all day and that is too much for you? Absolutely pathetic.
Kevin Graham has experience. Kevin was the Chairman of the committee that got rid of the 6th workday and gave us the 4-2 schedule . He was 1st Vice President of the State FOP for 4 years.
Kevin Graham DOES NOT sit on the mayors house now!!!!!He did for a very very short time.He is no friend of the mayor and will fight for us!
I am a retired member. I started in the sixties and retired six years ago. Back when I started there were no job rights for anything. If you arrested the "wrong" politically connected person, or the boss didn't like you you could find yourself driving great distances and working the shift they knew you didn't like.
A midnight foot post patrolling the south Chicago lakefront, sitting on a corner taking down license plates of all red sedans for months on end, to name a few. Hopefully, after a period of time the brick was lifted and you could redeem yourself. You had no rights to anything. When you came off furlough, the books were wiped clean, you had no comp time, which at that time was straight time. This was the reality that everyone lived with. There was little voice of dissent. A big percentage of the guys and bosses were WWII vets. You do your best and take it on the chin. You don't talk back.
There was a now deceased Capt.George Gannon who by his own admission made rank from his old clout Alderman Weber, longtime passed on. Gannon always joked that his clout was rolling over in his grave because Gannon was a brigand. Capt. Gannon was a singular voice who was anti-establishment, and pushed it to the limit. He was a very well studied person, and in all respects a true friend of the blue shirts, who he would counsel and defend continuously. He ran afoul of HQ's so many times, he was repeatedly transferred finding himself transfer orders, sometimes monthly. He was a northwest sider. At one time he was transferred to the 4th District. He bought a travel trailer and took up residence in it parked next to the district station. Newspapers at the time carried the story. He wouldn't give up.
Finally after Jane Byrne (our last true friend) was elected, the brick was lifted and he chose his spot, the 25th District where he spent the remainder of his career.
The criticism of the elected retirees is somewhat hollow, and barely anyone is left that remembers "the good old days" when the police had NO rights. Days off were changed monthly for some if the bosses didn't like you, as well a shifts and assignments. Time due wiped off the books after furloughs, no suspension options, no redress of grievances. Certain targeted individuals were fired for cohabiting and not married. Conduct unbecoming, etc. Yes it's true. A Youth Officer was suspected of being "gay" and coerced to resign from the job on the spot.
The retirees experienced, albeit slowly, the continued development of improved benefits in all respects. All the while the administration putting roadblocks in the way, coming up with new restrictions and guidelines, etc. At first the bosses were anti-union, but they caught on that one of them could just as well be a target. Hence they now have their own organizations representing them. FOP president Nolan convinced the FOP board that it was a bad idea to have the supervisors in the same building or a chapter of the FOP. Because of this the bosses could not join. He was a rat who reported via channels back to Daley and this was a move by Richard Daley to keep the different bargaining units apart. Daley's attempt at preventing a concerted voice. So unlike most other Departments the supervisors are separate.
Historically there were many FOP representatives who spoke with a forked tongue, and were in reality working for the other side. It took years for the membership to catch on, some of them are still in the dark. Names need not be mentioned, you who have been around for years know who they are.
"Those who can't learn from history are doomed to repeat it." The retirees have that knowledge that only comes with time. So in my opinion they represent value to the organization.
I’ll tell you why no one should consider voting for Dean Angelo Sr. I am the unit rep for the SWAT team. In 2014 after Angelo failed to negotiate anything for our team in the contract I spoke with a labor attorney. He found FLSA Laws the city was violating. We went forward with filling the law suit and is currently in litigation. I wanted to let our board of directors know what I was doing, expect support. I called into the office to let them know I would be at the next board meeting and would like to speak. I was asked to Dean. In that conversation, Dean asked me NOT to file my law suit. Telling me that it was the last thing off the table and would be the first thing on the table in the next contract. Obvious line of BS. If the fact that our union president doesn’t back his members in a law suit isn’t a good enough reason, then what he attempted to do at the board meeting should seal his fate. At the board meeting after presenting my law suit and explaining it to the board Dean asked if there was anything they could do for us (the swat team) now. His son Dean Angelo jr. spoke and said how about we file some grievances for them. Dean then asked me to speak with the union’s attorney. If I would have filed a grievance my laws suit would have been dead. Now either the two Angelo’s knew that and were trying to sabotage my law suit or they are incompetent. You decide. Either way Dean Angelo sr. needs to be voted out of this union just like his son was. He doesn’t have the memberships best interest at heart. Kevin Graham is far and away the best person for this job!
Robert Bartlett
Swat team unit rep
Please don't think that the Retirees do not have the best interest of the Active members. That is not true. We are ALL Police Officers fighting for better working conditions. Retirees have a bit more time to devote to active issues than you may believe, without distractions of raging merit supervisors.
However, an Elected Candiate should be placed in the office and conduct the business they were elected/trusted to do.
But that doesn't always pan out. (People blindly voted for an unknown self proclaimed hotshot MS 6 yrs ago over a seasoned and vetted, now retired GB. Wow, things went sour fast.)
Although we didn't get the best Contract in the last negotiation, an inexperience gaggle of newcomers to union business is too risky. It's Chicago and if we don't settle with Rotten Rahm, it's his Arbiters that will do it. The City is not going to cave in to our demands, not since Jane Byrne. Our voice is our vote participation.
More importantly and overlooked:
Rahm is laughing right now with such a dismal vote turnout. That empowers him. He now feels you and your family are not going to matter in his re-election bid.
Send in the Ballot no matter who you chose - Just Vote.
Don't like the Candidates...then send in a blank or vote for both. Rahm's bean counting PR staff is watching these returns.
We are about to fight for our lives in the next contract and we might elect a guy with NO Experience!!!! Remember what happened with Shields!!! I am voting for Angelo.
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Dean is NOT THE WAY TO GO. Wise up!
Shields would have been OK if the rest of the union "officials" who were on the Board at the time gave him some insights on what to do.
Don't criticize Shields without criticizing all those on the Board who knew better AND DID have experience and never reminded him he had to send a letter in.
Those are the guys you should be voting out instead of keeping them on to sell you out - AGAIN. (looks like they wanted Shields to fail so they could keep their "cabal" going.)
Clear out EVERYONE you can and if there are some guys left - THEY should be telling the new guy(s) what to watch out for.
Not trying to defend Shields (as he has his own "ego" problems and shortcomings), but to leave him hanging in the wind by not telling him the procedure speaks volumes of the lying cheats who make up the rest of the Board.
Union issues? "Hey, don't call me - I know I'm "gettin' mine" with a future "merit promotion"."
Clear out the morons - including Dean.
A U-Haul truck was seen at the FOP this morning, dropping off a load of moving boxes. Time to start packing, Dean. You shouldn't have gambled on a Chicago casino using our pension money!
Anonymous said...
We are about to fight for our lives in the next contract and we might elect a guy with NO Experience!!!! Remember what happened with Shields!!! I am voting for Angelo.
3/11/2017 05:16:00 AM
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Dean has experience and giving shit away and sticking us with a shit contract ......MORON
Were all coppers. We have our disagreements but can we at least respect each other. The city loves to hear us MF each other.
Ray Casiano will have to give up all of his embroidered "1st Vice President" sweaters! LOL!
Definitely voting for Kevin Graham. Dean had his chance and doesn't have anything of importance to show for it. Our situation is definitely worse and will not improve with Dean. Shocking that many voted for Dean in the first place. Awfully suspicious.
Angelo did NOTHING for the retired guys, who were not on medicare. If you were on medicare, you didn't need the fop to get a supplemental plan. Angelo, needs to go. Bill Nolan should be thrown out of the fop for the shit he did while president. And although I'm retired, I agree with many posters, that the retirees have too much influence. Lodge 7 needs to be run by district guys. The detectives have failed the membership. You young guys need to get off your asses. Get involved. Try to make a difference. You have more power than you realize. Flood the hall, with guys that have under 5 years at meetings. Angelo has always counted on your indifference.
You wanna know why so many retirees are in... because active members don't vote.
Savages in this town.
Been retired 10 years, retired guys should not vote.
Why the fuck are these many retirees running the union when they have zero ability to vote on any active matters?
3/11/2017 05:39:00 AM
Russian hacking? No. People keep voting them in.
rb
9 out of 17 elected trustees are RETIRED! Soon to be 10 out of 17 when another retirees soon with the 55 and out medical program. 2 of 3 Sgt of Arms are retired. Recording secretary retired. Why the fuck are these many retirees running the union when they have zero ability to vote on any active matters?
3/11/2017 05:39:00 AM
Because active members don't take the time to vote them out and they
keep getting voted in by retired members
Angelo stated, "This isn’t Christmas morning when you’re five years old and expect everything on your Christmas list. You need to grow up. You need to play in this game as a professional. You need to lead an organization [in a way] that betters the membership as opposed to putting them in a no-win situation."
What a creep. Fight, fight for our rights under the contract and don't give up what we have. We are not a bunch of 5 year olds, we deserve a better leader than this for the fop, not a guy who wants to give the city what they want.
One thing is for sure...we sure don't want Dean Angelo winning another do nothing term.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
We are about to fight for our lives in the next contract and we might elect a guy with NO Experience!!!! Remember what happened with Shields!!! I am voting for Angelo.
3/11/2017 05:16:00 AM
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Hey Friend it goes like this...
FOP gives it's wish list.
The city gives it's wish list.
The two sides negotiate.
1. There is a contract that FOP members agree to.
2. There is a contract that FOP members don't agree to.
3. No contract is presented to the membership due to disagreement.
If Dean is involved he will tell us to agree to the city contract because it's the best he can do. (As far as track record goes....he did it last time.)
If Kevin is involved he will tell us to seek arbitration if warranted.
Go with Kevin and by default and thus(potential arbitration)for hundreds of reasons, the least of which is that prior negotiated issues will probably not be touched (like due process for PO's).
Signed'
A guy that did not run with Kevin for the election, but knows he'll do a better job than Dean.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
9 out of 17 elected trustees are RETIRED! Soon to be 10 out of 17 when another retirees soon with the 55 and out medical program. 2 of 3 Sgt of Arms are retired. Recording secretary retired. Why the fuck are these many retirees running the union when they have zero ability to vote on any active matters?
3/11/2017 05:39:00 AM
You forget retirees were the police too and we like to see the active member have good representation but most P.O. will just keep bitching about everything and do nothing about it. Who in their right mine would vote to elect Angelo and his minons? but it seem that a lot of active member think he is a good choice, when has he done anything to show strong leadership? Members need to be active or you will never have strong leadership and the Angelo's will continue to run the union into the ground. With all that is going on with politician going after the police you need a strong voice. For your information as along as you paid dues after you retire you still have a voice and remember you will retire one day so quit bitching and do something about it if you don't want retirees holding office
How the fuck did Angelo get in the run off and what morons voted for him???? I'd would have voted for Shields before I voted for this disabled shyster college professor who has done ZERO for the membership. Grievances swept under the rug, calls for help/info going unanswered or answered with bs and lies, management still fucking over patrol at will, absolutely no public support or advocacy in the face of opposing media critics and politicians, while this useless old crony sits on the throne waiting for re-election. FUCK THIS -- VOTE HIM OUT!!!!!
I'm retired and I didn't vote. FOP has been a joke from day one. Toothless tiger. When we first voted for a union back in the 70's I voted for the Teamsters. I figured a 26th Street guy with black leather jacket would be better than that fuck head Dineen and his group of suck heads. I see that loudmouth Shogren still has his grubby hands in the pie. At least they would have stood up to City Hall. Just my opinion. Now back to my afternoon nap.
Anyone know how old Angelo is? If he's close to 63 do we want a retiree running our union? Hell no! We especially don't want him negotiating our contract.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I voted for Shields, hoped to get a vocal President once again. Anything is better than Dean at this point, I hope anyone who voted for others throws his/her support behind Graham. Angelo has allowed our pension to take further hits by letting the city off the hook for payments into the fund. We have the worst funding ratio of all funds in all major cities. We need an advocate for us who will force the city to make their contributions, otherwise we will pay the piper down the line in the form of reduced benefits. Detroit is proof it can happen. It is time to follow the lead of places like Indianapolis, where they are 98% funded. I believe we are 25% funded, and that is beyond frightening. Vote Graham, at least it will be a different approach from Silent Dean.
3/11/2017 05:18:00 AM
Couldn't agree more!!! We all need to come together and vote for Kevin Graham. We sure know what we're getting with Angelo and that's nothing. Don't trust Angelo with our pension and our next contract. Our last contract was horse shit at best.
Looks like Graham will be the president Dean has to go the strange thing is how did Greg Bella still stay in the office let's hope that when Kevin Graham wins the great Bella is for bidden from going into that office there's Amanda deafly cannot be trusted hundred percent he was on plays for the other side the enemy among us needs to go.
Kevin Graham the presidency is now yours with Marty preib in place this should be great just be careful of any of the leftover people from the Dean or Mark administration you have somebody that one that is going to be that office which really should be barred from that office be careful you cannot have people working inside they have other outside interest that could destroy Any new initiatives that you make to help the forgotten man and women of the Chicago Police Department.
Can anyone find one good thing Dean Angelo has done for it's members? But how many bad things has he got for its members? The choice is easy. Support Kevin Graham and Marty Prieb. We need a voice.
How is it that 24 hours after the count and no word of the trustee's? FOP secretary sends out page 1 of a 2 page announcement and forgets the second page?
Why do we have such incompetent people in that office?
And please don't tell me it was an honest mistake, really?
Hire professionals to run that office and not girlfriends and coppers wives.
Retired guys won spots cause us retired guys vote. The hair gels cry about everything about job but remain mute and don't vote and would never call out the FOP. When the march on city hall occurs in the spring, the 5 year wonder' will not show up. They have no balls and take all the shit thrown at them by the brass and smile, and then beef among themselves talking bad ass.
You guys will shit when you see your next contract. Expect paying a nice piece of change for health insurance and watch your duty availability go bye-bye. It is in the works now, zip uniform allowance after people seeing you young guys dress like bums. No worry, they will have connected stores hand out uniforms as needed.
The PPO' on the street now look like Muppets and know it all !! No wonder the bangers laugh and dis you guys and girls, your fear shows being on the street, but if they stop a couple of elders going to church for blowing a light, they engage these poor souls.
The "Shitter" and "Half-day" both lost. Hahahaha! Things are looking up.
No more rubber stamp!!!! Graham said if elected u are in fop office period. That's fair!
9 out of 17 elected trustees are RETIRED! Soon to be 10 out of 17 when another retirees soon with the 55 and out medical program. 2 of 3 Sgt of Arms are retired. Recording secretary retired. Why the fuck are these many retirees running the union when they have zero ability to vote on any active matters?
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Along the 20 years I said the same thing, and basically got noting along the way. It was about me then.. there's a good chance I've paid more union dues than you and still got nothing. Well, it's still about me and I'm looking at retirement soon. One day you'll understand. Retirees have a vote, and it's not an issue of them versus us. A few more years of getting screwed and you'll get it
Does anyone know how Dean was injured in the line of duty to get duty disability?
Was he shot like Jim Mullen?
In a car accident like Densey Cole and Cedric Brummley?
Yet he was on the same pay status as them!
Who authorized that.....Bill Nolan?
Can we FOIA that information?
I have 14 years on the job and have spoke with several people with 6 years and less in different dists. and was told they never received there ballot to vote.I told them to call the hall to get there ballot sent out again. All called the hall and received the same response "sorry if you want to vote you will have to come down to the hall and do it."Funny would like to see how bad Dean would have lost by if all ballots were mailed out!!These young kids have lost alot under dean just like the retires.They realize this and are very angry maybe dean realized this and that is why the ballots were not sent to them?
O/T to 10:47 am Gannon was another political hack who liked the police.He talked a good game and his down fall was sniffing around the policewomen. He was a Phil clone. Wanted the attention of the dollies and got it. He took care of them and you know what it got him Sued by several of them for sexual harassment. He went to trial and lost causing the city and himself usc.Yeah nice guy but if it came to you or one of his dollies you'd take the hit. Saw it happen it 019. So by his own admission he was clouted up and after old Charlie Webber died and he had no one to take care of him. Again Clouted up.Couldn't find a date in a whore house so he created his own in the districts.
Graham is a twoface lier!! Ask him if he comes to roll call to explain who came up with the 4-2 day off schedule!! Remember it's all on paper!!!
Previous post started with :
"I am a retired member. I started in the sixties and retired six years ago. Back when I started there were no job rights for anything...."
*****
One of the best posts in a very long time!
Retired, 30+
I do notknow Kevin very well, new on days this year... but I will tell you one thing he is always helpful, stays on his own time to help others.. and the impressive part he listens and does not try to walk away from you.
I think he will fight for us... what more can you ask vote for Kevin Graham.
Saw this on Facebook. Thought it was interesting!
Dean reaches retirement age in June or July! Seriously, don't vote for a retiree! You think this man has an ounce of integrity to pass the torch to an active candidate??
Hell NO!! He's in it for the end game������
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Retired guys won spots cause us retired guys vote. The hair gels cry about everything about job but remain mute and don't vote and would never call out the FOP. When the march on city hall occurs in the spring, the 5 year wonder' will not show up. They have no balls and take all the shit thrown at them by the brass and smile, and then beef among themselves talking bad ass.
You guys will shit when you see your next contract. Expect paying a nice piece of change for health insurance and watch your duty availability go bye-bye. It is in the works now, zip uniform allowance after people seeing you young guys dress like bums. No worry, they will have connected stores hand out uniforms as needed.
The PPO' on the street now look like Muppets and know it all !! No wonder the bangers laugh and dis you guys and girls, your fear shows being on the street, but if they stop a couple of elders going to church for blowing a light, they engage these poor souls.
3/11/2017 05:25:00 PM
Nice post. This will get us all pulling in the same direction. Thoughtless.
We fucked up, Mcguire would have done more for us then these two clowns combined. Its a shame you don't get to know theses individuals before ruling them out for the popular do nothing vote.
I would like to thank all active and retired Police Officers who supported my candidacy in running for Lodge 7 Third Vice President.
I would further like to thank both Jay Ryan and Bob Bartlett for running honest and dignified campaigns. Bob and Jay are both good men and great Police Officers.
This campaign has been taxing on our families, our coworkers and on our general health. Thank you to my family for their support and understanding and to my colleagues for you cooperation in supporting my indulgence in running for FOP office.
I ran for the right reasons. My only regret is not being able to implement the progressive ideas of our New Direction Team or to fight for and defend our contractual rights from a position of power.
In that regard I fully lend my support and recommendation to
Kevin Graham in the runoff election for the FOP Lodge 7 Presidency.
I'm not a politician. I'm not a professor. I'm just Policeman and a Detective and I don't apologize for being either.
Thanks for all you do and take care of yourselves and your partners.
Det. Michael D'Andrea
Anonymous Anonymous said...
9 out of 17 elected trustees are RETIRED! Soon to be 10 out of 17 when another retirees soon with the 55 and out medical program. 2 of 3 Sgt of Arms are retired. Recording secretary retired. Why the fuck are these many retirees running the union when they have zero ability to vote on any active matters?
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Along the 20 years I said the same thing, and basically got noting along the way. It was about me then.. there's a good chance I've paid more union dues than you and still got nothing. Well, it's still about me and I'm looking at retirement soon. One day you'll understand. Retirees have a vote, and it's not an issue of them versus us. A few more years of getting screwed and you'll get it
3/11/2017 06:08:00 PM
The reason this statement doesn't not hold up is because any active officer will at some point be retired. Any active elected official will always be looking out for the active and retirees cause down the line they will be there too. A retiree on the board while looking out for the benefits of the retirees does not have a card in the game for the actives. Now I do understand that they might have knowledge and "should" have the interests of the active at heart, at the end of the day when it comes down to it they will always put retirees first.
Add the simple fact that elected retirees can not vote on any matters regarding the contract. Can't vote on grievances.
If you go on the simple statement that they have knowledge part, well just like a FTO or veteran while working you pass that on to others to carry the torch when you are gone.
The sad truth is that most, not all, but most retirees on the board are there to pad their pension another $7,200 a year from the stipend. A simple fact to prove this is that for 3 years you never see them at any roll calls in the district. Come election time they magically appear. Prove me wrong and list the District and roll call along wth the names of Board members who have shown up.
Soon the Supreme Court of Illinois will dismiss the Underwood case and the City will win their fight to eliminate retiree health care. Do I want that, no, but it will happen. After that what card will a elected retiree have to continue the push to control the make up of the FOP board? Pension? Once again that is an issue that all actives have a serious claim to because they will be there at some point too.
Ask another question. What other FOP Lodge has the current board make up like Lodge 7 in which retirees can have this much control?
The answer is NONE. Call the State Lodge and ask. Hell, call the fucking national and ask.
Yes and it was shot down every time. The president wants reps who will follow orders and not make waves.....straight from Dean's mouth, i should have the freedom to pick who i want so i dont get stuck with guys i who do whatever they want.
John Catanzara 008
P.s. most would never be pushing a beat car since we seldom elect patrolman....hell we yet AGAIN have retirees all over the board. #changeiscoming
3/11/2017 06:56:00 AM
John, provide your email and I'll contact you with By-law idea. It's not to eliminate retirees be it falls inline with what you have proposed in the past.
Kevin Graham the presidency is now yours with Marty preib in place this should be great just be careful of any of the leftover people from the Dean or Mark administration you have somebody that one that is going to be that office which really should be barred from that office be careful you cannot have people working inside they have other outside interest that could destroy Any new initiatives that you make to help the forgotten man and women of the Chicago Police Department.
You are saying be careful about leftovers from the Dean of Mark administrations. look at the ticket Graham is running on Mark is a trustee as is Dougherty. I mean don't these guys have things to do when they retire? Nope they need to dip their grubby mitts back into the union coffers. Graham will be bad, Mark my words.
I voted for Mike, but he didn't make the cut. As I read the comments on this blog, I am amazed at the arrogance of those trying to tell me who to vote for. I was not planning to vote in the runoff,but some of the comments insulting our current president by those who want to see a return of the three headed monster; Dougherty, Aguilera and Graham; has changed my mind. Weren't these the guys behind the illegal removal of our then president Mike Shields ? You bet your ass it was illegal, that is why a settlement was reached to avoid a costly court battle that would have sided with Mike Shields being awarded a substantial compensation. It's amazing how this mirrors the problems that President Trump is facing with the fifth column. I'm for Angelo, so get over it.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Kevin Graham the presidency is now yours with Marty preib in place this should be great just be careful of any of the leftover people from the Dean or Mark administration you have somebody that one that is going to be that office which really should be barred from that office be careful you cannot have people working inside they have other outside interest that could destroy Any new initiatives that you make to help the forgotten man and women of the Chicago Police Department.
3/11/2017 04:24:
PLEASE Kevin will have NO new initiatives unless Mark Donahue gives them to him. Geppetto -Mark Donahue- has been pulling Pinocchio's -Kevin Graham - strings since Kevin became involved with the FOP.
My guess Kevin will not agree to a debate that a neutral part moderates. How about the Chaplin or John Kass? I'll donate 100 to the Chaplin's unit if there is a debate. While I'm not an Angelo fan because of my knowledge of Graham I'm afraid of where Graham will take the union. I really wish there were better candidates but we're stuck with these two. As a former forest preserve policeman told me if Kevin's lips are moving he's lying.
Ask yourself why the state lodge, the state police lodge, the state labor council, and the cook county sheriff's police all back Dean. The answer is they know Kevin from first hand information and Kevin can not be trusted.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Does anyone know how Dean was injured in the line of duty to get duty disability?
Was he shot like Jim Mullen?
In a car accident like Densey Cole and Cedric Brummley?
Yet he was on the same pay status as them!
Who authorized that.....Bill Nolan?
Can we FOIA that information?
3/11/2017 06:54:00 PM
I asked Lappe about Dean and he researched his file. Angelo was hurt while working in the Gangs Unit. At the time Lappe did not know Dean and was cautious. After re injuring his knee several times he became limited duty. I know the stories that he hurt it at softball but then the coppers working with him, his supervisors, civilian witnesses, and the paramedics all had to lie together. Remember Lappe was shot in the neck and gives no one a pass on limited duty.
He was working at the academy in a limited duty status. His city supplied knee brace wore out and when he requested a replacement. Some one in the city's finance department added up all his days off over the years. He had over 365 for one body part and the city put him on disability. Jump forward to last year. The city changed it's standards to get people back to work in call back to put full duty back on the street. That's how his status changed.
DO NOT believe an anonymous poster like me on the blog. If this is important to you call Lappe and verify it. I don't need to put Mike on the spot but he's the only one you should believe. That all being said Dean's not Donald Trump but Graham a typical lying democrat.
plenty of phony coppers playing duty disability
injured knees , bad backs from foot chase , car accidents
most can work part time , pick up the kiddies , vacation , attend concerts ,sporting events
time to change disability and save it for the neddy like densey , jim ,cedric and others like them
fire the abusers that are able but cowards
Dean Angelo has a record of fucking coppers over. All he has done since being president is give up things to the city. He's given them everything they have asked for. No negotiation. Nothing. How the hell can any copper vote for this man? And now I find out he'll be forced to retire in two months? Dear Lord, please vote him out!
Dean gave away health benefits and tuition reimbursement. He screwed new officers coming on and retirees alike. He is invisible whenever someone is wrongfully stripped, has a grievance or we just plain need some public leadership.
But what the hell, he negotiated new cars for us.
Can someone cite one thing that Dean Angelo has done for us.
Seriously, one thing.....
I know absolutely nothing about the other guy, but there is no way he can possibly be worse.
Joe Ferenzi said...
I would like to say thanks to everyone who voted for me AND those who didn't vote for me, but still took the time to vote. This was the first time I ran and it was a great experience. To the people I had an opportunity to address at roll calls thank you for taking the time to listen and for the questions you asked. I wish there was more time to see and speak to more of you before the election took place. For those of you who didn't vote this time, please reconsider and vote in the upcoming Presidential run-off. In the upcoming contract negotiations the City is going to be trying hard to change our discipline. Raises, insurance, retro-pay, -none of that will matter if you or I don't have a job because we are fired. The City is going to be pressing hard to change our discipline as is evident from the new C.R.matrix. Please -take the time to find out what these candidates stand for and what have they done. Who will stand up for us? This is OUR "union". We need to get this vote right because our futures depend on it.
Thanks again,
Stay safe-
Joe Ferenzi
3/11/2017 12:56:00 AM
Very well said, Joe. I was very disappointed to see you were not elected. Hopefully, when Kevin wins he will call upon you for counsel.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Does anyone know how Dean was injured in the line of duty to get duty disability?
Was he shot like Jim Mullen?
In a car accident like Densey Cole and Cedric Brummley?
Yet he was on the same pay status as them!
Who authorized that.....Bill Nolan?
Can we FOIA that information?
3/11/2017 06:54:00 PM
Dean suffered a catastrophic paper cut from which he never fully recovered.
Does anyone know when the runoff election is?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I have 14 years on the job and have spoke with several people with 6 years and less in different dists. and was told they never received there ballot to vote.I told them to call the hall to get there ballot sent out again. All called the hall and received the same response "sorry if you want to vote you will have to come down to the hall and do it."Funny would like to see how bad Dean would have lost by if all ballots were mailed out!!These young kids have lost alot under dean just like the retires.They realize this and are very angry maybe dean realized this and that is why the ballots were not sent to them?
Then they should have made every effort to come in and vote. I have 21 years on. I didn't get my ballot either. I took time and went in to cast my vote. Lazy millenials want everything catered to them. Now look at who we are stuck having to choose from. This is something important for YOU. These kids have no one to blame but themselves.
Dean injured his knee playing softball. After a couple more games he kept injuring it and was told to quit playing ball which he never did. He also was involved with martial arts as were his sons causing more damage to the knee. Find out who the witnesses were on all his injuries bet they were the same guy.Disability Dean didn't get that name from doing police work. Constant complainer in gangs.
HERE is A cool IDEA
for the 2 GUYS running
Tell us who you are putting in the office spots now!
Show us that you are so smart that you are out to put in brilliant ACTIVE officers to help you fight RAHM on the next contract.
Or may be the names would shock everyone and neither of you would receive votes?
it is alot of
I'm a PBPA member. I'll tell you this about Dean. There was a pension coalition with all the police unions and CFD. During that time Dean and the CFD union went behind the PBPA backs to make a city deal on the pensions, getting Rahm the ramp up to meet the pension contribution funding as well as his casino legislation that still is nowhere. He can't be trusted, because if he made this back room deal I'm sure that he has made or will make others.
Anonymous said...
Ask yourself why the state lodge, the state police lodge, the state labor council, and the cook county sheriff's police all back Dean. The answer is they know Kevin from first hand information and Kevin can not be trusted.
3/11/2017 10:42:00 PM
These endorsements are meaningless except these people have personal knowledge of both Dean Angelo and Kevin Graham for at least three years.
Ask yourself why no one who has dealt with both persons is endorsing Graham. They all say Graham is not trustworthy. That's the choices we have to choose from. If you want to call these groups they will tell you why they endorse Dean.
If you wanted some who will get on the news every night you should have voted for Shields. But Graham/Donahue/Dougherty are all in the democrats pocket.
Can someone cite one thing that Dean Angelo has done for us.
Seriously, one thing.....
3/12/2017 01:06:00 AM
He brought anchovy pizza back to Our Fraternal Organization, making the general meetings tolerable again.
I don't give a fuck who's running anymore, but I guarantee you I'm not voting for Disability Dipshit.
Don't underestimate those paper cuts. They hurt.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Does anyone know how Dean was injured in the line of duty to get duty disability?
Was he shot like Jim Mullen?
In a car accident like Densey Cole and Cedric Brummley?
Yet he was on the same pay status as them!
Who authorized that.....Bill Nolan?
Can we FOIA that information?
3/11/2017 06:54:00 PM
Dean suffered a catastrophic paper cut from which he never fully recovered.
3/12/2017 03:27:00 AM
Mike Lappe on the pension board used to tell everyone it was a softball injury. But that was before Dean-o got elected Prez. Then Lappe kissed his ass. It's the lieutenant on the Pension Board that we have to thank for getting Dean off disability. He's the one that pushed for a review. Once the review was scheduled, Dean had a miracle recovery. What a fucking joke!
Ask yourself why the state lodge, the state police lodge, the state labor council, and the cook county sheriff's police all back Dean. The answer is they know Kevin from first hand information and Kevin can not be trusted.
3/11/2017 10:42:00 PM
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LMAO
AND Dean can be trusted?
Please get your head outta your ass.
Anonymous said...
This is bullshit. They don't give us the option to choose our representation by splitting the ticket? We basically have a straight ticket forced upon us. It is no wonder voter participation sucks.
3/11/2017 09:52:00 AM
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Where did your ballot say you had to vote a straight ticket?
You're a fool if you did that.
You could have voted for whomever you wanted from any ticket.
Ask yourself why the state lodge, the state police lodge, the state labor council, and the cook county sheriff's police all back Dean. The answer is they know Kevin from first hand information and Kevin can not be trusted.
3/11/2017 10:42:00 PM
I dont know either of these guys & I'm not a bargaining member of the FOP but who gives a shit if the cook county sheriffs police back dean???
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Retired guys won spots cause us retired guys vote. The hair gels cry about everything about job but remain mute and don't vote and would never call out the FOP. When the march on city hall occurs in the spring, the 5 year wonder' will not show up. They have no balls and take all the shit thrown at them by the brass and smile, and then beef among themselves talking bad ass.
You guys will shit when you see your next contract. Expect paying a nice piece of change for health insurance and watch your duty availability go bye-bye. It is in the works now, zip uniform allowance after people seeing you young guys dress like bums. No worry, they will have connected stores hand out uniforms as needed.
The PPO' on the street now look like Muppets and know it all !! No wonder the bangers laugh and dis you guys and girls, your fear shows being on the street, but if they stop a couple of elders going to church for blowing a light, they engage these poor souls.
3/11/2017 05:25:00 PM
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Wow, you're a real piece of work!
Who gives a fuck about how he was injured. he gave almost thirty years , his father was the police, son, and has a daughter is in the academy. The question is can he be effective as the President. The police is always talking about shit and that is not very important This run off is a big thing. Lastly, the contract states if u are injured in the line of duty and deemed unfit to work u are entitled to disability its their for officers and thank God we have that protection. It is coppers like u who are so critical. That is how the city is able to fuck us over because they read second city cop and see the shit we post and use it against us. It obvious the police really do not have each other back.
1st he disabled now he is retired?
time for DEAN to go back to checking term papers at the paper mill college.
Anonymous said...
This is bullshit. They don't give us the option to choose our representation by splitting the ticket? We basically have a straight ticket forced upon us. It is no wonder voter participation sucks.
3/11/2017 09:52:00 AM
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What are you talking about? A straight ticket, you could vote for any one you wanted for any offuce
Kevin Graham the presidency is now yours with Marty preib in place this should be great just be careful of any of the leftover people from the Dean or Mark administration you have somebody that one that is going to be that office which really should be barred from that office be careful you cannot have people working inside they have other outside interest that could destroy Any new initiatives that you make to help the forgotten man and women of the Chicago Police Department.
Can't graham bring Donahue and Dougherty back inside?
Mark can have graham bring back some of his guys with him
Bye bye, Kevin Kilmer. From one pretend job to another. Don't work too hard. (We know you won't)
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
This is bullshit. They don't give us the option to choose our representation by splitting the ticket? We basically have a straight ticket forced upon us. It is no wonder voter participation sucks.
3/11/2017 09:52:00 AM
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I'll tell you what's bullshit! Idiots like you! Did you pull a Democratic Ballot during the primary election and vote for Alvarez? It's people like you that let in the Kim Foxxs and other crooks. Do us all a favor, stick to voting for American Idol and Dancing with the Stars kid. Let the grown ups vote for the important things that actually have consequences.
I never received my ballot, called the FOP and the call taker said I had to come vote in person. Had an emergency Friday and couldn't get there within the 3 hour window. This is exactly what they're hoping for. I call Bullshit! I can't speak on behalf of the others, per se, but this current bunch of yahoos are terrible. I've stopped in the office from time to time and it's a bunch of hacks doing absolutely nothing. The million dollar question is: "Are we better off than we were 3 years ago?" Simple answer: F@CK NO!
Dean angelo screwed the new guys
no duty availability
no tution reimbursement
negotiated new cars (lol)
collects a duty disability becuz hes supposedly injured so how can he be fop president? if he can do that he can work light duty... makes no sense!!
open up his case!!
I'm sitting here reading the blog about how Dean blew his knee out while playing soft ball. I played softball with Dean at Merrimac Park in the 90's and I was was there when the poor guy injured his right knee. What a bunch of idiots pushing a bunch of un-truths. The poor guy injured his left knee while serving a warrant. Both knee injuries are totally unrelated., Deans knee cap slipped off on his left knee. Where is it stated that a off duty copper can't play softball on his own leisure time. Get the fuck out of here. u guys have got to come better than that.. Passing partial information is dangerous information.
Hey SCC, I'm for Dean over Kevin and I will never forget the role Kevin played in the "coup" that removed President Mike.
We do not need a retiree as President of FOP Lodge 7.
Plain and simple.
We need an active officer that knows what it's like out on the street day in and day out. Knows how the dept is screwing officers.
Dean hasn't seen the inside of a squad car in over 10yrs.
He could care less about those that do it daily.
Vote for Graham.
VOTE
I'm sitting here reading the blog about how Dean blew his knee out while playing soft ball. I played softball with Dean at Merrimac Park in the 90's and I was was there when the poor guy injured his right knee. What a bunch of idiots pushing a bunch of un-truths. The poor guy injured his left knee while serving a warrant. Both knee injuries are totally unrelated., Deans knee cap slipped off on his left knee. Where is it stated that a off duty copper can't play softball on his own leisure time. Get the fuck out of here. u guys have got to come better than that.. Passing partial information is dangerous information.
Lets say your right. Could you now explain how he was well enough to teach at Calumet College, but he wasn't well enough to sit in a chair at call back and answer the phone and make reports? The only reason is that it was financially beneficial to him. Stealing from our fund was in his best interests.
The Song Remains The Same said...
Ask yourself why the state lodge, the state police lodge, the state labor council, and the cook county sheriff's police all back Dean. The answer is they know Kevin from first hand information and Kevin can not be trusted.
3/11/2017 10:42:00 PM
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Here's why the State Lodge endorsed Dean. Chris Southwood got elected as our state president thanks to Dean. Chris is worried that if Dean is out he may be out too. The amount of delegates that Chicago can send to the state conference is enough to elect whoever Lodge 7 wants. That is the plain and simple fact.
The Labor Council and CCSP should mind their own business. They have nothing to do with our union. Their endorsements really don't mean a thing.
Before you vote, remember one thing. A VOTE FOR DEAN IS A VOTE FOR RAHM. It's as simple as that. Everything else is just fluff.
To 8:19 am. The knee injury happened playing softball and the bogus iod was made at the search warrant that wasn't even his. The goof then kept playing softball and doing martial arts with his kids. Thus causing more damage to the knee. So Mr. boyfriend of Deans you were probably the one who was the witness on the iod. You think we all just came on the job when your trying to sell the feel good story about the pres. Think again. Sell it to someone who isn't on the job
to the person who posted to vote for Dean is a Vote for Rahm. u sound as stupid as Shields that is the shit he was saying when he was running. The problem is coppers can be so dumb all this shit can be settled with Dean and Kevin facing each other in either a debate or at a town hall. . Why is Kevin so afraid to debate Dean. I received a post someone sent to me that Sid Davis posted. The nerve of u Sid calling officers minions. First a minion is a person who is short in height and u are a little man who might be 5ft. give a inch or two. That is the very reason many of my friends who are officers voted your ass out because u displayed the exact disrespectful attitude. If you are smart Sid u would mind your business and keep your whack ass post to yourself. At the end of the day I will be at the lodge waiting on Kevin to show and if he does not I will not cast my vote for him.
Dean is all over FB crying about the cost of a new ballot, maybe he should step out, He wasted
$$$ on a golf outing and has been silent on important issues. Signed, Retired guy.
Isn't it funny how a certain individuals keep posting look what Kevin did to Mike Shields and guess what, Mike Shields, Jim Mcguire and Cruz, and Merk are backing and supporting Kevin? Why you ask the members are fed up with being shafted and aware of how the current regime has conducted poor business practices. If you honestly can say this is why I plan on voting for Dean because he is being picked on and he is such a nice guy let him spend your money not ours. Please name anything positive that he has done. Look at the at least 20 reasons why not to vote for Dean. Hope you don't have to take a drug test.
Debate my ass. Are all if you guys so fucking gullible that you believe this would settle anything?
Last time around Dean told you about all of the wonderful things he was gonna do for us. He got elected and fucked us all from the newest recruit to the oldest retiree.
The guy has a track record of fucking coppers especially when it comes to our healthcare. He did it years ago and did it in the last contract. Now he's trying to use the media to fuck his opponent with some trumped up bullshit.
Anyone who needs a debate to figure out who to vote for shouldn't be allowed to vote at all.
Hey guys and girls use your heads when you vote in the runoff. Rember each one of the presidential candidates were essentially running against Dean Angelo. They weren't running against the other presidential candidates.
Don't let a losing candidate's endorsement sway you away from the candidate of your choice. Last time around Tom McDonagh lost and endorsed Dean because Dean bought his endorsement with your union dues. Dean appointed him as a Field Rep to the tune of about $400k after Dean won.
You're all smart enough to know who to vote for based on past performance or lack of it.
Yes the Constitution , Bylaw amendment was introduced 2 years ago and Dean rejected it. It would have taken the power away from the president as to who filled the field rep spots and they would have been field reps by virtue of the office they were elected to i.e. 1st, 2nd and 3rd Vice Presidents, recording and financial secretary and treasurer. Dean used this to his advantage last election bringing 3 people who actually lost the election upstairs as field reps ignoring the will of the membership. He was also able to cement the presidential runoff by promising McDonough (presidential candidate with 3rd highest votes) a field rep spot in exchange for his support in the runoff. I wonder what Shields will be asking for and what Dean will be giving away in this runoff election? My guess is Mary Preib is toast if Dean wins and will be reduced to nothing but a trustee with a fancy title. Please tell Dean that our election is not for sale and our field rep spots are not for sale. He did it in the last election and will do it again unless we stop him. Vote Kevin Graham to restore integrity and a service oriented FOP that works for the members and not those who have bought and sold field rep spots.
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