Great Narrative
This one is making the rounds (click for the full sized version):
Nice to know Kim Foxxxx is taking everyone's word except the police.
Nice to know Kim Foxxxx is taking everyone's word except the police.
Labels: county, un-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
157 Comments:
I hoped they called the street deputy to override the asa.
Repeat offender. Likes Guns & Buds.
Are you blind? Kim Foxx is INCOMPETENT.
I don't believe in this demographic bullshit
saying certain groups are under-represented
in certain occupations or professions.
This Socalist merit system, trophy for all, fill
our quotas is killing America.
Either you have it or you don't. And this artificial
HR padding goes back to the 70s in many police
departments.....one white, one black, one male,
one female. FUBAR! We didn't win WWII like this.
Sad! This just goes to show how far crook county has sank. Decent citizens of crook county take heed, this county is doomed.
....while notso Special Ed lobbies the Springfield legislature for tougher gun laws. But also admits he doesn't want disproportionate effects.
Why bother with tougher gun laws when they don't enforce the laws they have.
A society (ASA) that makes enemies of its police better learn to make friends with its criminals.
I guess the ASAs office is making friends with the criminals.
Not really unbelievable.
I mean, I know he should be charged, and he probably knew it was there. And I am no fan of Cabrini Kim.
Though I'm sure his lack of admission wasn't the only reason for a denial.
Maybe learning how to establish probable cause in an arrest report might help go a long way towards getting charges approved.
"This guy was a passenger in a car, a gun was found in the car" doesn't exactly establish why HE should be charged with it.
Kids these days. Do a shitty job of report writing, and then cry when you don't get what you want.
He's a passenger in a vehicle owned by another. The fact he is a convicted felon has no bearing on his knowledge of what is in the glove box.
That's the law.
As a police officer you know as well as I do that he put that gun in the glove box when the traffic stop was initiated.
But it's not what you know but what you can prove.
This is golden.
Define Irony:
You have Fathead Ed and all the political douchebags in Springfield lobbying for tougher sentencing for repeat gun offenders, while the State refuses to charge repeat gun offenders.
You have ascended to a new level of stupidity. Bravo, Asshats.
Good for that piece of shit. Happy his charges were denied. Doesn't surprise anyone nowadays. Fuck it all, folks. Stay Fetal.
Officers risk their job, lives and health chasing punks like this. At the very least you are going to mess up your knees running with all that equipment. Look at old football players. For what. Who cares.
The convicted felon, he is a man.
His word is his honor.
So there.
>cue up Clint Eastwood spaghetti-western soundtrack<
Fistful of bulls__t.
Foxx=Mosby="room to destroy"
Sweet mother my baby would never have a gun.
Too many black and brown people in jail already. Let's keep track of this guy and see what he does next.
Coming off VRI in eleven, can't get right in a Jeep crashes into three squad cars an whoever dumb ass white shirt terminates it before anyone knows if the cops are injured.
What in the hell SGT.
PULL YOUR HEAD OUT YOUR ASS or get out of eleven for crying out loud.
Atleast he was honest..... next months murder which the alleged gun man will get off to kill or be killed another day
Yay
I have shared this on Facebook and contacted several local and state politicians regarding this bullshit. When asked I will tell them the source which is your thoughtful website. Fucked up that the major news organizations with their highly paid staff cannot or they refuse to come up with street level stories like this. Instead we get Pam Zekman bitching about parking spots or Chuck Goudie talking about mobsters or the dude on Channel 7 discussing microwave ovens burning. This is a real fucking public safety issue. How the fuck can you just walk away and there is a loaded gun in the car, illegal, you are a fucking felon with a massive background, several of which are probation violations? Geezus. How did this woman get elected and why is there not a recall right now?
Why bother anymore really?
So, Kim Foxx personally denied charges?
I doubt that, and this is a stupid thing to write in the narrative, probably by a guy with 5 seconds on the job.
This is disgusting. Everything right is wrong now and vice versa. As a nurse seeing children shot on a regular basis I want the police to be able to do their JOBS. Does Kimmie know what it's like to see brain matter oozing out of a child's head?
Let's see if the local media hacks steal this one.
Come on SCC, it's a shit case. They didn't establish possession or knowledge. Even this misdemeanor charge is getting tossed in court.
I thought I was reading the onion.
Stay safe.
After he was Ibonded I'll bet he asked the desk for his gun back.
Anyone who has felony upgrades shot down by review should read that way from here on out.
Is anyone surprised? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
Kim Foxx is ANTI POLICE through and through.
Preckwinkle is still her boss and Preckwinkle has been a police hater for decades.
You ain't seen nothin yet!
"Run Forest, Run!" Easy to see why the population is diminishing. Florida is nice this time of year.
Everyone know it's a kings bar constant fights shootings still opened whose getting paid off?
3 wounded in shooting at Stickney Township bar
Elyssa Cherney
Shooting at F&J Roadhouse
Three people were shot inside a bar in Stickney Township in unincorporated Cook County early Friday, authorities said.
The victims were taken to area hospitals, where their conditions were stabilized, said Cara Smith, a spokeswoman for the Cook County Sheriff's Office.
Deputies responded about 2:10 a.m. to the bar in the 5000 block of South Central Avenue, which is about two miles northwest of Chicago Midway International Airport.
A woman waiting at a gas station one street over from the bar, the closest deputies would let her get to the scene, said she came to make sure her friend who waitresses at the bar was not hurt.
Her friend was not injured but "freaking out," and crying hysterically while on the phone, said the friend, who asked not to be identified.
Another man rode up to the gas station on a motorcycle to check on some friends who may have been at the shooting.
"Everyone knows this is a Latin Kings bar," he said on the phone.
This is a developing story. Please check back for updates.
(Hey tommy dart and Toni keep letting them out)
This reminds me of an incident were we had a rash of stolen vehicles that were being stolen using tow tucks. Partner and I observe a tow truck pull up to a car parked legally and proceed to take it. Talk to owner of vehicle who related that her vehicle should be parked on street and no one was authorized to be in possession of her vehicle. She never ordered a tow on her vehicle. Contacted states attorneys office, charges denied due to the fact that the tow truck driver stated he recieved a call from a person to tow the vehicle even though the tow truck driver didn't have any paper work, didn't know the owner, didn't have the plate information nor the vin..You gotta love Chi-Raq and Crook County... police are handcuffed, criminals running wild, and taxes after taxes...
Interesting home address, how does he afford to live in such a nice area? Is it section 8? Does anybody know?
Hey media trolls, remember this assholes name cuz when he kills someone hav the balls to call out kim fox for her incompetence by not charging him with s Guni
To all you guilt ridden bleeding heart morons that voted for Kimmee Fox, she is making a mockery of the judicial system and is mo fooing you right in your face. Thank You Sir may I have another. And your gonna get more. ♠️
So why are you stopping anybody? Proof enough these are the new model citizens they want.
I'll betcha though, if it could be PROVEN that the gun DID BELONGED to him, that things really, and I mean REALLY, would have been different. Like a $1,000 D bond or even maybe an I bond, for sure....That would have made him think TWICE about his ways......Are WE FUCKED or what....
Thanks Kim your doing a great job for this city and the criminals you are protecting
Give them the police department they want everyone. As long as they do not harm us or our families, let the savages do each other in.
We are just glorified report takers.
Great documentation though and great police work. Unfortunately, its not what the machine wants.
For everyone reading this who is non-police, remember this sort of thing come election time.
Did you see that address if arrest? They're here!
The F.O.P. should start keeping specific records of these situations. Then release the information online by using You Tube and other outletd
Great Narrative way to put the responsibility on the people making the decision. Maybe FOP should have a workshop discussing that narratives should defer to the ultimate decision makers to reduce civil liability against the arresting/reporting officers.
So, Kim Foxx personally denied charges?
I doubt that, and this is a stupid thing to write in the narrative, probably by a guy with 5 seconds on the job.
Probably a few more seconds than you. Box by box by box. Read the narrative again.
Don't worry if he on Cook County Adult Probation, the liberal asswipe Demorats bed-wetter's chief Haywood and his two liberal asswipe's assistant chiefs MAT Solbeski and Nicole Raymond will protect this Scumbag. Theses liberal asswipe's have disbanded the dept weapons gang unit and have ORDERED All WEAPONS UNIT OFFICERS not to make ANY ARREST or conduct searches on convicted felons homes. Theses liberal asswipe's have ORDERED All OFFICERS not to notify ICE on all illegal convicted felons.
think the approving supervisor will catch any heat for approving this?
Cook county felony review is useless, try writing a warrant, getting the gun your ci describes the offender having, then have some useless ASA deny charges because it was found in the bathroom
I hate Ms Foxy as well but......He was a passenger. Probably wasn't his car. Unless you observed him placing something in the glove box how could you connect it to him? Sounds like it was a stretch to begin with. Terrible narrative as well.
Sounds like an ez override.
write better paper cast closed
Where's the clear PC for the stop? This narrative is horrible. No wonder it got denied, I bet he cut and paste from the case report too. Keep putting your job on the line with stupid BS stops coupled by shitty arrest narratives. Let's see how the ISR's read for each guy pulled out of the car, just as stupid I presume. A gun is off the street great but at your jeopardy if you can't fully articulate it in the arrest. Never mind you guys are gonna keep doing this stupidity to stay in jeans.
Test the gun for DNA. If it's his, indict him.
Stacy Weber is good people. Its very shitty to put her name out there like that. Just saying.
If charged, that case would likely be FNPC and/or motioned for a directed verdict anyhow, not that the author of the narrative would know. What, was the copper a ten year old? Grow tf up.
Signed,
-610 days
He's a proud productive resident of the 016th district, his alderman must be proud...
His exact words were "That can't be my gun in the glove compartment, I don't even wear gloves"
ASA Weber in line for a demotion I see.
Did you see that the so called "tougher gun law" being debated in Springfield is being watered down again because of opposition from Chicago Dems?
The same Chicago Dems who bitch and moan at every opportunity about "why isn't someone doing something" about the gun violence in their neighborhoods.
Durbin, Rahm and Robin Kelly can then continue to write letters to Trump "demanding" that he do something (translation: send more money for "programs")
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What do you expect, from someone who took a "Sisser" photo with her buddy the State's Attorney from Baltimore! Remember her, and how she tried to imprison those coppers. In my decades of service to CPD, I always wondered why coppers were shy, like little Catholic School girls, when it came to going after lawyers. The ARDC is like CPD's IAD. Yes, even Lawyers are accountable for their misdeeds. However, also remember what I taught my students: "All prosecutions are Discretionary." So, maybe Kim had a Taco Salad the night before, and decided to take it easy on Latinos! Does anything make sense anymore? Baby "G"
Talk to any ASA anywhere in the State's Attorney's Office. They are miserable with Kim Foxx and her new people. Her top people have zero experience in the State's Attorney's Office. One of her top people Katie Hill worked at Loevy & Loevy. They are all going fetal now too. Any on of them will tell you that they are just trying to keep their head down until they have their time or they find a new job. Cook County does not have a prosecutor now - just a second public defender who calls herself Madam State's Attorney. Sad. Very sad.
The question is did a patrolman take the time to submit the gun to crime lab to see if or who's prints may be on the gun.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
So, Kim Foxx personally denied charges?
I doubt that, and this is a stupid thing to write in the narrative, probably by a guy with 5 seconds on the job.
5/26/2017 02:56:00 AM
Hey two seconds on the job, I was there and that's what the ASA told the arresting officer. Do you even think, presently someone would just make up something like this, wouldn't that be false official report. Hey doubtful, thanks for all your support in the war we are in with the Mayor, States Attorney's Office, BLM (but they don't matter), the Rev's, Liberal Media, and Alder-Assholes.
Weak case, Desk Sergeant and Watch Lieutenant will take time for approving the narrative.
Jebus H. Chrysler on a nuclear powered pogo stick! Why the hell did no one bother to dust the weapon for prints? If dude's prints are on the weapon (and they more than likely are) then no way in hell he avoids the weapons charge.
To the super cop working VRI in 011. If you want to make comments about things, you should probably try to concern yourself with things like facts. Facts such as, 1 of the 2 Sgts ON SCENE was the only one who was struck while in his squad. The offender then hit another unoccupied squad while fleeing, with those officers keeping themselves out of harms way. Hell, I wasn't there either, but i managed to get the story right by listening to the zone and then asking a few people, instead of just making wild assumptions to post bullshit. You seem to be the one with your head up your ass. I don't know any of those involved, but from what i gathered, i have no problem with how it went down. Ignorant and judgmental coppers like you are a cancer to this dept, killing us from the inside when we already have enough shit to deal with from everywhere else.
If I recall correctly, if no one takes responsibility for a gun in the vehicle, it goes on the driver.
You think this is bad. Ask people who work in Sheriff Tom Dart's Electronic Monitoring division. My department arrested a guy about two months ago for DUI wearing a Sheriff E.M bracelet. He was armed habitual criminal with a juvenile murder conviction only 7 years prior. He was wearing a Sheriff's E.M bracelet for current drug dealing charges. We contacted Sheriff's E.M division and they refused to get him saying he wasn't a priority. The guy basically told us they were swamped with violation cases and they would "catch up with him later". He said the Sheriff's office does NOT consider prior records and the drug dealing was not considered a priority case. Why is Chuck Ghoudie or Pam Zeckmam not investigating the Sheriff's obviously flawed E.M program
Not a big deal he's bound to be a homicide victim very soon
Seems legit. I dindonuffin defense. I'm in.
What a great idea!
Name the politician in the report.
And when he kills in a mass murder and the media request the rap sheets BOOM! a little surprise
This is the problem with the lack of training on this department. Any officer that is experienced in making UUW arrest would know that this wasn't going anywhere as soon as he saw that he was a passenger in a car which the weapon was found in a glove box. You can't prove he "knowingly" knew it was in there. Sorry to be a party pooper but the ASA's are right on this one.
Maybe next time he can spell "yielded" and "Foxx" correctly and not embarrass himself.
I always wonder who these goofy states attorneys call when i present a felony case?
Do they train these scholars and simple law?
And the State attorneys office is shit canning cases by making face book , Snapchat, instagram and any other social media post be subpoenaed.
Does a patrol officer have 3 days to work on hold phone records and preservation notices? ITs a scam watch and see on your next felony that is posted to FB. The bad guys will walk out because you have no phone records
How funny it is to see The Supt and the mayor constantly beating the drum about tougher sentences for gun offenses all the while Kimisha Foxx, Dart and activist judges undermined them. They must be embarrassed. It all starts in the states attorneys office. The mayor and the Supt can complain all they want. The best part is the whole bunch is cut from the same cloth. They never talk bad about each other. Just like Rahm never calls out Daley for destroying the city when he was king for 22 years. Its the "Chicago machine first" Question, when will the media start getting concerned about what these politicians have done to Chicago? Productive people are fleeing.
If this guy thinks that is sufficient evidence to charge knowledge and possession he is a fool. And what he wrote is even more foolish. I hope he enjoyed pressing send. I wonder if he wrote that in the sworn under oath arrest report?
Wake up, he was a passenger in a car that was probably not his and the gun was in the glovebox, you not have enough. That was a shitty narrative and just shows your ignorance.
Shitty paper 101. Class dismissed. Don't forget to sign up for the officer safety course. LOL
That narrative sucks. I would've denied charges too. Who the hell uses "Defendant" in an arrest narrative.
Priceless!
Sounds like the drivers gun. Ya got nothing kid....
Two things :) he is a regular jag off in 025 and 2—is that a monster energy drink logo on his neck 😂
Anonymous said...
I hoped they called the street deputy to override the asa.
5/26/2017 12:05:00 AM
Have you EVER gotten a Street Deputy override
on a Cook County State's Attorney denial of felony
charges and went to court with it?
They'll tell you at the P.C. hearing that you may as
well use the contents of the case file for toilet paper.
...AND they'll tell you why.
THEN for years afterwards, you'll be wondering why
your "Tight Paper," textbook reasonable suspicion
and air-tight probable cause is yielding you a
double handful of dick-all in court and "All Yo Shit"
is being NPC'd and Nolle'd.
Then the false arrest allegations start...
Street Deputy Override
a Cook County State's Attorney
and it sticks and the Policeman
who pushed for the override
escapes without suffering the
wrath of the CCSAO?
You must be naive or really new.
With Kim Foxx in charge, your
cherry is gonna get popped
and right hard if you push for
an override.
Leave Kim and Dude alone.
Protect yourselves from THEM.
No prob cause.
Although this is a disgrace, don't take it personally. This is the Kim Fox policies. Just make sure you don't get caught up in it. You can bet charges will be approved if you do. The two people that should be angry and embarrassed are the Mayor and Supt. They are screaming about this stuff every day. The Supt just went to Springfield and was on TV. Hahahahhahahaha!!!!!
I bet he is on that silly SSL list or whatever it's called. Did someone knock on his door and have a talk with him about guns and violence? Lot of good that did. Well, someone better go back to his house and have another talk because he's back home again. What a joke!
Horrible narrative. Does everyone on here check the glove box of every car you get into? Didn't think So! Gotta learn how to write the paper, why not charge the driver? It's their car?
And with all screaming the mayor and Eddie do about gun violence, I'm willing to bet they both voted for her. And for every one else that runs the cook county court system. I bet they both also voted for Chief judge Evans too. The Party comes before what's right. Right???
Who's the criminal's best friend in Crook Co.?
Anonymous said...
Not really unbelievable.
I mean, I know he should be charged, and he probably knew it was there. And I am no fan of Cabrini Kim.
Though I'm sure his lack of admission wasn't the only reason for a denial.
Maybe learning how to establish probable cause in an arrest report might help go a long way towards getting charges approved.
"This guy was a passenger in a car, a gun was found in the car" doesn't exactly establish why HE should be charged with it.
Kids these days. Do a shitty job of report writing, and then cry when you don't get what you want.
******************
Yeah and if it wasnt for you under educated old timers that didnt know how to write a contact card we wouldnt be dealing with ISRs. Lead by example
And as we all know, convicted criminals would NEVER lie to the police.
Right. Just keep believing that.
Retired Ol' Sixgun Sarge
And the Mainstream press is reporting this ???????????
While I wish they'd lock this guy up and throw away the key because it is clear he is committed to being a cancer to society, how could you convict him anyhow? While I have little doubt he knew about the gun, how do you prove that beyond a reasonable doubt given that he was a passenger in another's car? I have people ride in my car all the time who have no idea what is in my glove box. Were the guy's prints found on the gun?
I'm a non-LEO. What is a UUW?
Sounds like a whiny suburban cop who doesn't know what it takes to prove a case in court. KNOWLEDGE that the gun was there. He's not the driver, he's not alone in the car, it's not his car, the gun is not in plain view which would put him on notice that its there and he didn't admit to knowing it was there, nor did a witness say it was his gun or that they saw him put the gun in the glove box. Knowing or believing he put the gun in the glove box versus proving it are two completely different things. This is coming from about as big a fan of law enforcement as you'll ever meet. Very unprofessional way to write a report.
Keep risking your life and health in this job and you will get burned. The city is going to bail on you when you get sued. They will leave you high and dry. If you don't believe me keep working and one day you will learn the hard way. I can't use my arms or even pick up my 3 year old son because of the job. Don't drink the cool aid
Look at where that future doctor used to live and where he lives now. And then wonder why there's shootings happening in 016. Gotta spread the shit evenly in the name of social justice.
Hopefully the coppers who recovered the gun were smart enough to use gloves. When the prints/DNA comes back on the gun to this stroke then copy and paste the original narrative into the arrest report.
So many of these posts reveal how clueless many POs are when it comes to the law. The arresting officer absolutely established probable cause for the UUW arrest for any and all occupants of that vehicle, especially the arrestee. Go read the statute and hopefully those who doubted the a/o will realize that he was correct. The fact that the ASA doesn't like approving the UUW charge against all occupants is simply their way of exercising their discretion on who to prosecute, and doesn't mean there is no probable cause to arrest and charge anyone in that vehicle. The fact that the ASA chose to reject charges based on the arrestee's word is appalling and there should be total outrage from Eddie Johnson. That he is silent is the saddest part of this entire ordeal. Terrible leadership but no backlash because the aldermen are satisfied the superintendent is black. McCarthy, who I didn't like, would've faced so much more scrutiny simply because he is a different color than the Black Caucus. We live in an age where diversity is forced on all as a good thing, when all it is is code for discrimination against straight white men. With Rahmbo, Foxx, Johnson, Dart and Preckwinkle running the show this whole place is a lost cause.
In court this would be a shit case. It should not even pass a probable cause hearing. It is what we can prove that counts. The only thing we can PROVE based on this narrative is that there is a gun in glove box.
If you give them something else you may have something. For example: "as R/O approached, he observed the subject put an object in the glove box. Upon inspection R/O found a gun."
No evidence he knew gun was in the glove compartment. Good call by the ASA
The new pretext to search: smell of weed.
Old pretext to search: barrell of gun sticking out from under the front seat on the driver's side (or the passenger's side) in plain view.
Can someone show this to the 3 year know-it-all tac guys with the backwards hats and skinny jeans!
Learn how to write some paper kiddo
That bullshit narrative does not establish possession nor does it establish probable cause learn how to write your paper correctly
No problem. Once the ballistics, DNA, or Prints come back, the police will-come-a-knockin!!!
Oh, wait, nothing will come back because the ISP is doing the testing.
Oh well.
Coming off VRI in eleven, can't get right in a Jeep crashes into three squad cars an whoever dumb ass white shirt terminates it before anyone knows if the cops are injured.
What in the hell SGT.
PULL YOUR HEAD OUT YOUR ASS or get out of eleven for crying out loud.
5/26/2017 02:05:00 AM
How did he manage to hit three squad cars? Was the chase started before or after the cars were hit? How did three separate cars end up in the path of the fleeing vehicle in order to get hit? What was the jeep being chased for in the first place? What was said over the air by the chase car? You're leaving A LOT out and putting a whole lot of blame on the sergeant. Perhaps the people chasing should pull their heads out of their asses or get out of eleven. Some people never learn. Let's just continue all chases that never should have started so even more police officers can get injured over some bullshit. Three police vehicles don't get hit in a chase that conforms to policy. I'm sure the chase car should have self-terminated before any sergeant had to do it for them. So, were any cops injured?
This incident needs some clarification:
1. This was NOT a CPD arrest. This was in Riverside BY Riverside PD.
2. To the posts who claim that the "report writing" is bad, this was only entered into ICLEAR for documentation/tracking purposes. Hence why the narrative is so short and direct. Outside agencies use their own systems, reports etc. They enter their arrests into ICLEAR for our benefit.
3. Yes the fact that Kimiesha's office didn't approve charges is BS.
To those saying they didn't have pc, probably 2 years on, etc. Who cares? It's fucking funny. So many coppers are just so fucking serious nowadays. Lighten up
That poorly written report would not have resulted in charges in DuPage or Lake County either. Dont blame a lawyer for your inability to observe or to interview a person to gain information.
Even though it's a hard case to convict and place the weapon in ether persons hand. The fact is anytime we get denied charges or approvals we should note who and why. It'll help put blame on the real crooks not the cops
This is exactly why I wouldn't do any police work ever again. I show up for work and collect a paycheck. Why waste my time if the court system is going to refuse to approve charges. Enough B.S.
Who's the bigger fool? Kimisha or the coppers for making the arrest in the first place?
Come on.. gun is in the glove box which the law considers a locked box, which the report doesn't mention anything about being unlocked or locked. No mention of they saw the offender opening closing or reaching into the glove box as they were stopping, approaching, or what ever.
He is a passenger in another person's car... How did he know they gun was there ??
Yeah we all know it's his, but if the elements aren't there for you to have seen them to right them in the report, then bad guys wins this time.
This one isn't the states spinless fault THIS time.
SCC, did you see the Suntimes front page story about CPD landing other jobs under investigation.. Tom Dart's neighbor, Robert O'Neill donated 5 grand to Dart. He had 55 disciplinary cases on Chicago PD and left under investigation. Dart hired him to six figure post. Dart fires black and Mexican C/O's for sneezing too hard but this guy keeps his job.. UNREAL!!
Cute narrative, but copper needs some lessons on how to make the case.
Come on SCC, it's a shit case. They didn't establish possession or knowledge. Even this misdemeanor charge is getting tossed in court.
5/26/2017 05:30:00 AM
Exactly . Right to reject the charge. Unless it's his car, or someone saw him put in in there, OR HE ADMITS IT's HIS, you can't prove knowledge -thus , no possession. Doesn't matter if he's a felon, a nun or a police officer. Not enough evidence to prove possession. Report writer clearly hasn't been to court.
Never ending saga of Foxxx and the shaky team of underlings.
Poo-poo on the ASA, but a giant bag of Mastiff ploppies for LT if there wasn't an attempt to Over-Ride.
So something isn't right with the actual charge either.
So there's not much other than a highlighted portion of an arrest profile narrative.
And then, in this day and age the only penalty here is someone is going to take heat for the insensitive narrative.
Although one thing comes to mind is that how the entire Stop came to be, how it was worded in the GOCR, how it was articulated in to the ASA, And IF by the Area.
Stupidity on the part of the Office of the Sates Attorney never ceases to fail when every t is cross and every i is dotted.
BUT - is this just a case where an "impatient, waiting for hours for the Area, wanting to go home", PO calledthe ASA for approval?
Because there are some points that are unclear and comments should be taken for what it's worth.
First, It's not a deal breaker to handle Felony Review by a PO, but you have to be on the same page as them and how you relate the details.
Hope a lesson was learned...not all ASA's are alike, such as the last one who approved your similar 2016 case.
So, the Offender was just a idle Passenger sitting behind a concealed loaded firearm, chilled out on a bit of blunt a hour ago and was just getting a ride home...blah-blah-blah never heard that before.
But what about the Driver (DUI or uncharged?), he would still have direct access to a glove box firearm and is always charged when alone, not necessarily a Passenger. I'm thinking the Driver was first to say - It ain't mines ...hmmm?
Was the ASA fixated about "ownership" or access (which obviously they both had) ?
So neither the Driver or Passenger doesn't know ownership, but nobody can decide who has the access?
Yes, most easily accessed by the Passenger but that avenue failed firstly or secondly?
Ok, so the Passenger says it's not his gun, but what about the Drivers story?
Was it his registered car?
What the A/O told (in so many words), to the ASA is key to why Approval was denied.
Since there no ETs either, PO's have to refrain when possible from handling recovered firearms without the use gloves and firearm envelopes, another ASA stickler besides cameras and third party witnesses.
By the way, where was the arrest, 7200 W. Cermak or at home 3900 N. Normandy?
A small pimpy detail that will shitcan in court and lead to false arrest.
Beware - It's best to get you and all the helping hand assisting PO's on the same page before calling a Cook Co ASA.
Too many cooks and add-ons, PLUS going home early without Det interviews lead to Holds and eventual Denials.
Those one PO interviews and six on the paper are a thing of the past.
Where was the shorthanded, shooting scene and overwhelmed Detective Area anyway?
Did anyone bother to call for some direction or ask the DSS?
Those two lifelong illegal 025 gangbanging thug residents should have been locked up...both of them.
When every level of the ASA responsibility fails, a simple notification to ICE should always be an alternative.
Good stop and always still a nice Weapon Turn In stat for The Morning CompStat Jam with Special Edna and the Pips.
Foxy Kim just order everyone in bond court be given I-Bonds! Criminals be laughing. Bond court ASA's posed but can't do anything
Hysterical, now time to file ARDC complaint against the attorney let them start standing behind their incompetent inept decisions!!!! Hold them accountable
FYI, not a Chicago arrest.
Anonymous said...
Anyone who has felony upgrades shot down by review should read that way from here on out.
5/26/2017 06:39:00 AM
Yeah.
The truth hurts.
Watch for Kim "Tha' Peoples an' Folkses Revenge" Foxx
and her office to push for Insubordination/Conduct Unbecoming
when this narrative starts showing up on paperwork where
felony approval has been denied.
Watch for these piss-poor merit bosses to
co-sign this shit since their "produce
activity or we fuck with you" toy has been
taken away from them.
Bunch of intellectually disinterested laggards...
Anonymous said...
Anyone who has felony upgrades shot down by review should read that way from here on out.
5/26/2017 06:39:00 AM
And just you wait enough of these shit-birds on whom CCSAO
declined felony charges, line up behind some sharpie
lawyer and start suing the pants off Policemen
for false arrest.
This is a damned dangerous game Kim "My Peoples an' Folkses
Avenger" Foxx and her office are playing.
...Sir/Ma'am Prickwrinkle just rubs her hands
together and giggles like a giddy school-girl.
So does Rahm...
Anonymous said...
The convicted felon, he is a man.
His word is his honor.
So there.
>cue up Clint Eastwood spaghetti-western soundtrack<
Fistful of bulls__t.
Foxx=Mosby="room to destroy"
5/26/2017 01:41:00 AM
LOL!
Well THIS is a warning to Policemen to
steer clear of peoples and folkses who
stand around with fists full of that
there stuff ready to fling at the
slightest primal urging of that feverish
peanut they call a brain.
no small wonder "the reasonable man"
has made himself scarce in these parts.
Terrible narrative. Sorry.
Childish, unprofessional narrative. Can't believe that narrative was approved by a supervisor. It was factually inaccurate for starters.
. Kim Fox was involved in the decision to reject felony charges? Kim Fox stated the defendant's word should be honored? No fan of Kimmie, but come on! I agree he should not have been charged. If he was charged it would have been tossed out at his first probable cause hearing.
Just reading article on Tom Dart hiring his neighbor ex CPD who got in trouble working in narcotics. He donates to Dart and tgen just recently moved into million dollar home in Tinley. Looks like that narcotics unit was good to him.
So when this felon kills someone with a gun in the near future, can Kim Foxx be held liable? Or in the least sued personally for allowing this felon to be on the street?
How is foxx allowed to make up her own rules and ignore state law?0
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Come on.. gun is in the glove box which the law considers a locked box, which the report doesn't mention anything about being unlocked or locked. No mention of they saw the offender opening closing or reaching into the glove box as they were stopping, approaching, or what ever.
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Someone needs to be re-trained or find a new line of work.
The Illinois Supreme Court finds that "a strong odor of cannabis" coming from the interior of vehicle legally stopped, gives the Officer probable cause to search the vehicle, driver and passengers.
http://www.illinoiscourts.gov/opinions/AppellateCourt/2013/4thDistrict/4110857.pdf
Furthermore a weapon enclosed somewhere inside a vehicle is not legal, unless the subject has a valid FOID card and the weapon is UNLOADED! A loaded weapon enclosed even with a FOID card is illegal. I am not talking about any CCL requirements.
(720 ILCS 5/Art. 24 heading)
ARTICLE 24. DEADLY WEAPONS
(720 ILCS 5/24-1) (from Ch. 38, par. 24-1)
Sec. 24-1. Unlawful use of weapons.
(a) A person commits the offense of unlawful use of weapons when he knowingly:
(4) Carries or possesses in any vehicle or concealed
on or about his person except when on his land or in his own abode, legal dwelling, or fixed place of business, or on the land or in the legal dwelling of another person as an invitee with that person's permission, any pistol, revolver, stun gun or taser or other firearm, except that this subsection (a) (4) does not apply to or affect transportation of weapons that meet one of the following conditions:
(i) are broken down in a non-functioning state; or
(ii) are not immediately accessible; or
(iii) are unloaded and enclosed in a case,
firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container by a person who has been issued a currently valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card
Pay special attention to (iii) unloaded and enclosed with FOID.
Please refrain from commenting on issues you do not understand.
SCC, did you see the Suntimes front page story about CPD landing other jobs under investigation.. Tom Dart's neighbor, Robert O'Neill donated 5 grand to Dart. He had 55 disciplinary cases on Chicago PD and left under investigation. Dart hired him to six figure post. Dart fires black and Mexican C/O's for sneezing too hard but this guy keeps his job.. UNREAL!!
And according to the ragtmes he (O'Neil) bought a $932,000 home in Orland Park. Dart is such a fraud. Shockingly, the times actually looked into the corrupt Sheriff's department. Mark Brown must be pissed.
http://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/officers-who-left-chicago-police-department-under-a-cloud-find-cop-jobs-in-suburbs-elsewhere-the-watchdogs/
That is phenomenal. That's exactly how it needs to be written
In Kim Foxx's eyes we are the lowest of the low.
By the way, where was the arrest, 7200 W. Cermak or at home 3900 N. Normandy?
A small pimpy detail that will shitcan in court and lead to false arrest.
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If you don't know how to read that printout, you're not the police.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
That bullshit narrative does not establish possession nor does it establish probable cause learn how to write your paper correctly
5/26/2017 12:28:00 PM
There would also be a separate case report. This is just a quick summary.
States attorney's only want slam dunk cases.
Even in slam dunk cases they're reluctant to approve until every possible shred of video is found and reviewed.
Anonymous said...
If I recall correctly, if no one takes responsibility for a gun in the vehicle, it goes on the driver.
5/26/2017 09:06:00 AM
You are correct.
STAY FETAL keeps coming up as the best option when all is said and done. It's simple and very basic logic when it comes to self preservation, unless you are infallible.
Cute narrative, but copper needs some lessons on how to make the case.
5/26/2017 02:25:00 PM
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Here here! Yes, as written there is no way this should have been approved anyways. People who are screaming that it should be approved don't have a clue. Doesn't even meet a misdemeanor arrest. Zero evidence of knowledge. It's in a glove box the bad guy has no knowledge that it's in here because the report says so. Another know it all trying to be smart guy who doesn't know the law. U want the hue by felon charge??? Well, then use your head officer.....
Cute narrative, but copper needs some lessons on how to make the case.
5/26/2017 02:25:00 PM
The days of making the case are over pal.
If it's in the glove box it belongs to the driver. Now if passeneger wants to own up to it that's on him.
Stacey Weber is good people. Sure, I am going to take your word for it when I read this and cannot help but think differently. She is a dog ass.
The arrestee is only 25 years of are? God, he looks awful!
Foxx ought to be investigated by the ARDC for her public statements encouraging people to interfere with ICE when its agents attempt to deport illegal aliens.
Love the argument by those who have apparently never heard of constructive possession. So in this case, the officer was just supposed to take said gun and say "oh well, I don't know who it belongs to, but none of you can have it and I'm taking it, bye guys!" The gun is within reach of the driver & passenger. If neither claims it is theirs, it becomes the both of theirs. Same concept for dope. Brick of weed in the backseat, five passengers, no one claims it is theirs but it is accessible to everyone. It now belongs to everyone. This isn't rocket science. As for the schmuck pointing fingers toward the "whiny suburban cop," really? Have you read 95% of CPD's narratives? Don't even start that BS. The suburban guys and CPD are supposed to be on the same team. If you want to go be an elitist prick, go for it. Just have a better argument than starting shit with other cops.
To our Georgia Friend-
UUW = Unlawful Use of Weapon.
DAMN alot of attorneys posting on this!
Maybe We should spend more time on arrest.
How about SWABS for DNA on weapon.
How about putting the goofs in room for a real Interview with real notes?
How about that mystery GUN unit with the FED computer track the actual gun?
How about and ET check for prints on the magazine and bullets?
Can a patrol officer do this? NOT LIKELY!!! Not enough cars up and a white shirt who probably has NO Clue. Hell the ET wont even come out!
You can hope for a car impound, some tickets and the guns off the street.
Dont forget the lame contact card with the lengthy narrative so you dont lose your house.
All the CIVILLIAN arm chair QB calling for prints and DNA do any of you know how long that takes ISP lab??? A year if your lucky!!
Anonymous said...
If it's in the glove box it belongs to the driver. Now if passeneger wants to own up to it that's on him.
5/26/2017 09:45:00 PM
DING-DING-DING!
We have a winner!
The passenger must've shit-talked his way
into being annointed as the constructive possessor of
the strap in the glove-gox.
Anything in a "compartment" of a vehicle?
The driver takes the lick for it.
Your mileage may vary though...
So now you're arguing constructive possession...great, but you still have to establish knowledge
Forgive my ignorance, but don't they fingerprint the gun?
5/27/2017 06:29:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Love the argument by those who have apparently never heard of constructive possession. So in this case, the officer was just supposed to take said gun and say "oh well, I don't know who it belongs to, but none of you can have it and I'm taking it, bye guys!" The gun is within reach of the driver & passenger. If neither claims it is theirs, it becomes the both of theirs. Same concept for dope. Brick of weed in the backseat, five passengers, no one claims it is theirs but it is accessible to everyone. It now belongs to everyone. This isn't rocket science. As for the schmuck pointing fingers toward the "whiny suburban cop," really? Have you read 95% of CPD's narratives? Don't even start that BS. The suburban guys and CPD are supposed to be on the same team. If you want to go be an elitist prick, go for it. Just have a better argument than starting shit with other cops.
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Hahahahahahahaha, I sure you have all your assets in your wife's name because you are an absolute MORON!!!! Please open an ILCS book, you still have to prove knowledge of constructive possession IE: I know the gun was in there but I don't know who's it is but it's not mine=constructive possession.... u must have been in SOS.....
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Come on.. gun is in the glove box which the law considers a locked box, which the report doesn't mention anything about being unlocked or locked. No mention of they saw the offender opening closing or reaching into the glove box as they were stopping, approaching, or what ever.
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Someone needs to be re-trained or find a new line of work.
The Illinois Supreme Court finds that "a strong odor of cannabis" coming from the interior of vehicle legally stopped, gives the Officer probable cause to search the vehicle, driver and passengers.
http://www.illinoiscourts.gov/opinions/AppellateCourt/2013/4thDistrict/4110857.pdf
Furthermore a weapon enclosed somewhere inside a vehicle is not legal, unless the subject has a valid FOID card and the weapon is UNLOADED! A loaded weapon enclosed even with a FOID card is illegal. I am not talking about any CCL requirements.
(720 ILCS 5/Art. 24 heading)
ARTICLE 24. DEADLY WEAPONS
(720 ILCS 5/24-1) (from Ch. 38, par. 24-1)
Sec. 24-1. Unlawful use of weapons.
(a) A person commits the offense of unlawful use of weapons when he knowingly:
(4) Carries or possesses in any vehicle or concealed
on or about his person except when on his land or in his own abode, legal dwelling, or fixed place of business, or on the land or in the legal dwelling of another person as an invitee with that person's permission, any pistol, revolver, stun gun or taser or other firearm, except that this subsection (a) (4) does not apply to or affect transportation of weapons that meet one of the following conditions:
(i) are broken down in a non-functioning state; or
(ii) are not immediately accessible; or
(iii) are unloaded and enclosed in a case,
firearm carrying box, shipping box, or other container by a person who has been issued a currently valid Firearm Owner's Identification Card
Pay special attention to (iii) unloaded and enclosed with FOID.
Please refrain from commenting on issues you do not understand.
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Thanks for the law but you just proved everyone else's point... dumb dumb should have arrested the driver, not the passenger who denied all knowledge of it. Or you take the gun for prints and impound the car. Wait 8 months to a year to get prints of any and charge accordingly then... this is 2017, the only way to do it and the proper way now. Passenger has a hell of a lawsuit, it's not closest one to the gun with the worst record gets it. The narrative is asinine.
Of the over then 100 guns which I've asked to be printed I've only had 1 come back with useable prints.
Was it his vehicle? Did the officer observe him place the firearm in the glove box? The law is not proximity to the weapon, but needs to exercise actual control or at least constructive control of it. What if my neighbor gave me a ride in his car, we get pulled over and there is a piece in the car? Am I guilty?
Ok 7:44. The next time you stop someone and find something illegal, just tell them you can't prove whose it is and let them go. Spoken like a true dog.
It will be funnier when they test fire that gun and a Murder comes back to it.
Then a real investigation will have to be conducted. It aint important till it embarrasses special ED and RAHM.
The officers need some guidance on his paper too. CMON white shirt thats why you check the reports and recieve extra pay each day too.
Ok 7:44. The next time you stop someone and find something illegal, just tell them you can't prove whose it is and let them go. Spoken like a true dog.
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Dog??? Hahaha, I don't think so pal. But I do have enough experience on the street and in court to know that this case cannot be charged as written. If you are gonna write it like this then impounding the car and printing the gun is the only way to go. Or you take the driver and hope to get a statement, or take the passenger but if you do then you have to make sure you are willing to play the game like back in the day, if you play the game then charges approved, but like I said this is 2017. Learn the law u dummy, this case cannot be charged as written. The copper tried being cute and was bitter it didn't get charged but wasn't willing to go all the way with it. If you want it that bad then you need to know what you are doing and how to play the game and be willing to go through with it 100 percent. This guy who wrote it has none of the above. Stupid in my opinion and inexperienced in what to do.
Anonymous said...
That poorly written report would not have resulted in charges in DuPage or Lake County either. Dont blame a lawyer for your inability to observe or to interview a person to gain information.
5/26/2017 01:27:00 PM
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Bingo! That is why the academy is there to help with questions and training. Do not be afraid to get help. It will not make you less of a person to admit that you need extra training or do not understand how to make an arrest.
Funny narrative, but no where close to having the PC to charge the passenger. Cmon office, just because the glove box is closest to the passenger doesn't make it his; in court anyway.
You clearly lacked the experience to know that what he wrote, ISN'T the actual narrative, ISN'T the full report, DOESN'T say everything that happened and that surburban departments use Iclear to input their arrests with a small summary. I won't argue that what he wrote was meant to be cute and sarcastic. It'll look terrible in court, absolutely. There is more to this arrest, however, than the little quip he put.
For all you young chargers.
Back in the day like 25 years ago.
We found one gun under drivers seat during street stop.
ASA approved all charges for all four occupants.
No one admitted to who was in possession so all four were charged and when it went to court 3 were violated under parole and the forth was a juvenile....
Jeebus, Chicago is tres Eff'd. How do you stop anyone with that kind of thinking and logic? Why do the coppers even try anymore?
Anonymous said...
For all you young chargers.
Back in the day like 25 years ago.
We found one gun under drivers seat during street stop.
ASA approved all charges for all four occupants.
No one admitted to who was in possession so all four were charged and when it went to court 3 were violated under parole and the forth was a juvenile....
5/29/2017 06:13:00 AM
YUP!
Putting BEE-AY-DEE muthafuckahs away by the carload!
We hold fond memories for the last of the "Golden Time"
to be The Police.
We knew the end was nigh about 20 years ago when we
curbed a vehicle matching the description of one such
where automatic fire emanated from.
The designated runner (front passenger) bolted...
We froze the other three occupants.
Called it in, got help on the scene
and got the three assholes out and
lo/behold there was a Tech-9 wedged
butt-up between the driver and passenger's
seat.
Simple.
Right?
No bullshit. No creative writing.
No inventing fez-wearing mystery men
zooming in on magic carpets or any other
improbable/unlikely shit guys have been
known to include to make their paper "tight."
>Ring-Ring!<
"CCSAO..."
Yeah... We got dirty m/fers in a car possibly
wanted from a call of rapid-fire shots, loaded
Tech-9 wedged between the front seats and accessible
to all occupants...
"Felony approval is declined, my name is..."
It still leaves a very bitter taste.
We wonder if that lazy-assed ASA would've
given Felony approval if we were forced to
kill every living ass in that car on that night?
And twenty years later, had that happened,
it would have been another entry in the
aclu's "You Cops Are Racist For Shooting
Poor Misunderstood Community Members"
naughty list.
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