New Schedule?
We got a couple of emails about a new schedule floating around - but when you search the Directives on the Department Intranet, it doesn't exist. Here's what we got (click for larger versions):
We don't recall a single mention from the FOP about schedule alterations. What we think happened is that someone accidentally (or on purpose) let this leak out in the active system and then put it back into "draft" status.
Forty-five minute roll call? Gym time? We don't think any of this is based in reality. What has anyone heard?
Forty-five minute roll call? Gym time? We don't think any of this is based in reality. What has anyone heard?
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
94 Comments:
Gym time at the start of a shift???? More time out for shower unless they want you to stink the rest of the shift.
So I get a 15 min roll cal, 15 min work out and 15 min shower and time to get dressed?
Fuck that. Leave it the way it is.
10 hour days?
I have a headache...why do they keep screwing with us?!
Hahahahahahhah!!!!!!!! Hahahahahahahah!!!! Physical fitness???? People that have never done a power test since the academy will be doing this just to stay down. This department is like Reno 911
fucking asnine,,,just another reason to keep you longer and answer calls,,,and what about 005? there will be a massive bailout in the dirty nickel fo-sure!
Gym time? and stack some E-learning.
Looks more like a way to tighten up the shift overlap and go back to something similar to the old way. New shift coming out as the previous shift heads in. For the spoiled millenials who have benefited from ducks and cuts, welcome to working a full tour!! I heard there is an addendum to this order where Sgt's will be required to provide milk and cookies in a special quiet room to all of the upset members of the "everyone is a winner" generation. Woohoo, I prefer oatmeal raisin cookies Sarge!! Unreal.
Hmmmmm seems like some house mouse moron didn't count that 30 min of that 9 hours is unpaid lunch 45 min roll call, 8 hours directed patrol and 15 min check off, leaves no time for food. NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!
HAIL SEISER!!
003 tried to have 10 and 30 sector as early and 20 and 40 sector as late for two years under the "squad" program. Due to manpower shortages, there were rarely 40 sector cars so 4 cars ended up covering the district for well over an hour. If anyone was in on an arrest, took time, or was unavailable then 2-3 cars were up. It was not uncommon for one car to be up and available covering the whole district. It was a huge officer safety issue. If this goes city wide a lot of coppers could get hurt.
Looks like the 012th district pilot program became a reality
So gym time has to be done in those first 45 minutes and can not be done any other time during my tour? Screw that!!! I am still going to take my travel time and my lunch at the academy and knock out my workout then. Besides, the gym at the station is crap and I don't see an opportunity to get somewhere better for a few years.
Do they really mean the first 45 min is for waiting for a car?
GTFOH
SCC:
You say you don't think any of this is based in reality?
The department, especially under Tiny Dancer, operates in fantasyland anyways so why not?
CPD is the antithesis of making sense so this would fit right in with the completely ridiculous trend CPD has been in under asshole Rahm.
Special Ed is not smart enough to compose/relese
something like that. I'd put my money on Rahm "Trial
Balloon" Emanuel. This is called a float. It's like bringing
the entire force into the boardroom. It was created to be
discovered and displayed on SCC. Rahm has been reading
our mail for a long time now. It was released to get feedback
from the rank and file, not the gangs, not the Aldercreatures.
It's a mind F, so be careful how you respond.
Looks suspiciously like the squad program. If manpower permitted, it may have worked well.
If someone chooses to spend their uncompensated lunch period doing physical fitness activities, they would be violating this ridiculous order. How can you tell someone they can't spend what is essentially their time doing a perfectly legal and reasonable activity?
Shower and Get dressed for roll call. Get undressed after roll call Get dressed to workout. Get undressed after workout and shower. Get dressed again to go back to work. Got it
FU.K. This job!!!!! My dr said reading the blog is contributing to my high BP!! Lol gnite scc
Looks great! 3rd watch can't leave at 2130 anymore!!
So the failed Squad program wants to make a comeback. Having been forced to work that in 003 with sometimes only 2 late cars up for well over an hour it was nothing but an officer safety issue. This place is such a joke, I'm embarrassed to work for CPD. Glad I found a way out and hope others can get out soon as well.
There's not enough vehicles...
So, I guess this will stop all those early ducks many units do? Will this be an end to the 5 or 6 hour tours some units do?
Maybe the FOP didn't mention it because the Department didn't mention it to them. And maybe the Department didn't mention it to them because it all complies with the contract.
Leave our current schedule alone. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
I'll take my workout time on the end, just abit more sense!!
Can i take a nap instead of working out?
Why the need to change the schedule? The current schedule is working fine. Looks like the Squad Policing Schedule from the 012th district. If they do change the schedule it will be the third change to our schedule in what 6 years or so. Gotta love this department
If gym time includes dodgeball, I'm in.
So if I get this right I have to dress in full uniform for roll call for 15 minutes of nonsense, of how we got your back, go back change out work out if I please, or do administrative tasks for the lieutenant which seems to be more realistic then then hit the street. Something just does not add up here
It straightens out the car/vehicle situation in the districts caused by the 9 hr shift
It's a nice idea letting us work out on the clock, but early in the tour, in the station. Not enough equipment for that to happen Besides I wouldn't want to use the shower in our station, who knows the last time they were cleaned
What about those who are in the Monday thru Friday weekends and holidays off? Any changes there?
Here is what the day looks like for CAPS in 19th district. Start shift and hour late, first hour surf the internet, second hour gossip, third hour do some community work such as order a cake for the white wealthy seniors living in Lakeview, forth and fifth hour have lunch , finally they can go home with no Check off. As for the uniform inspection t shirt, shorts,and flip flop sandals will suffice.
READ THE LAST LINE?
If there is a conflict this order takes over......
Cannot wait to see how fast this is thrown out?
Anyone that signs a waiver to workout is a fool.
What's the difference all I see different is the 45 min role?
What are all you talking about? All it's doing is balancing the watch times better. Lessens the overlap between 3rd ant 1st. No mention of squads.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Gym time at the start of a shift???? More time out for shower unless they want you to stink the rest of the shift.
8/23/2017 12:14:00 AM
What shower? Lot of the guys don't shower before work anyway or wash their uniform. Once I had to cover the driver seat with evidence bags because it smelled like shit ass.
It's part of asshole Rahm's contract "negotiations"
Make it a 10 hour shift with 5 on 3 off , 4 day weekends like the ET's
They eliminated Lunch and Personal breaks to give us time to hit the gymroom.
Now we're on an equal plane with in-house Administrative positions.
What are the Lt's hours of operation?
When will the 5th district tac LT have time to set his office on fire?
15 minute work out at beginning sucks. At the end is the way to go. A few years back when I worked in Area 4 my partner and I would hit the gym the last 20 waiting to get checked off worked out great, if you were going out after work you could shower there or just shower when you got home
My guess would be most of the ideas came from the DOJ report or the other report listing recommendations to imprOve the CPD
Once again - where is our FOP Lodge 7 brain trust? Could you at least abstain from attending the various golf outings and get to work?
Retired .38 spl +P
Try the 10 hour days or 12. Yes 005 is screwed up because of the way that is it scheduled with the hours.. But Copy cat the 12 hour shifts like suburbs! (Yes I know CPD members will complain and say 12 hours in Chiraq would be unbearable, but imagine having every other Friday-Saturday-Sunday off) Quality of life and morale would increase tremendously.
Whatever......make me whole and I'll leave. Seguros now!
Old Task Force Ranger here: Back in the day, the Task Force had a commander by the name of Walter Vallie. Wally was a rare bird but he was a physical fitness nut. He developed what he called the V.I.P. Team. This Team was open to anyone in the Task Force. One had to qualify for this team. There was a physical fitness test that included but not limited to how fast you could run a mile, a forty yard dash, 100 year dash, and a 220 yard dash. In addition how many sit ups, push ups, chin ups etc. you could do. The real kicker was how much one could bench press. After completing all these test, your score was evaluated. The people who did the evaluation was the then trainer for the Chicago Bear Fred Catto and the Bears STrength Coach Clid Emmeric(Emmeric was a former Olympic Gold Metal Weightlifter who in his eighties is still on the sidelines during games) What this entitled you too was if there was a special detail and members of the Task Force were asked to be assigned, then the detail would be given to a VIP Team Member first. If you were assigned to 60-E (War Wagon) you had to be a VIP member. Believe me when I tell you I got some VERY GREAT DETAILS FROM THIS. Now are you ready: If you were assigned to the VIP Team then one of the benefits was that you ORDERED TO WORK OUT THREE (3) HOURS A DAY, MONDAY, WEDNESDAY, AND FRIDAY AT SOLDERS FIELD (the old solders field had a workout room by the Bears Locker room) WHILE YOU WERE WORKING. If you were on your day off you could go workout and receive three hours overtime. The workout site was then changed to 35th and Normal when they made that a gym. If you for some reason did not work out on those three days, you would get a phone call from Vallie's Office and ask why. This went on during the duration of Vallie's time as the Task Force Commander. When Vallie got promoted to field deputy and the next commander took his place he stopped this practice because all of the Area Commanders where bitching and moaning about how certain PO's were getting this benefit and not others. Some Commanders wanted to put THIER GUYS in the unit. To this day I still work out 4/5 times a week. My question is, What the hell is someone going to do in fifteen minutes? NOTHING! If anyone knows anything about exercise then one would know that before any type of exercise one has to warm up. Depending a warm up could last 8 to 10 minutes depending on what type of exercise you are going to do> Ladies and Gentleman the Department has changed in more ways than one> Please Stay Safe out there and fetal Old Task Force Ranger
Eddie reminds me of a chocolate humpty dumbty.
Don't forget the best part.....swiping in and out. Hey sergeants, lutennants and tac guys.....get ready for full tours of duty.
Gym time thanks didn't know we have this "benefit" will definitely use this on company time! As far as the schedule FOP has no say that is decided by the city, just stay fetal back each other up collect those checks!
I was in 012 during this schedule and there are no negatives about starting an hour earlier. That's really all this is. Everything else is up do the Lt or DSS if they want a longer roll call. But having a 45 minute rollcall means you will not get jobs until 45 minutes after the start of your tour. And what's wrong with working out? Don't you want to try to be healthy for your family and when you retire and spend as many years possible collecting your pension from this city? Or would you rather die of obesity or any other hundreds of illnesses before you get your first pension check?
And actually his means every beat has their own assigned car. No more waiting around for cars.
just more fluff paper generated by some career desk monkey in between his/her games of solitaire and amazon shopping sprees to justify the 90K salary.
same as old schedule times before 4 and 2 started
10 hour day or leave it alone!!!
Just bullshit rumors. No 2300 checkoff until they make us swipe in and out again...and I aint gonna hold my breath.
who gaf
OT: Sgt class coming tomorrow...
You older gents can talk all day about the "hair gels" but at least they stay in shape.
III. B
including, including???
who proofed this? A CPS grad?
Chicago Fire Dept, work out all day, what is your point?
Can I go shoot instead ?
"You older gents can talk all day about the "hair gels" but at least they stay in shape.
8/23/2017 03:25:00 PM"
I'll take the paunchy older gent over the muscle head hair gel that needs to call the Sgt for help on how to write a Parker ?
Left CPD a year ago for a suburban department. We do 12 hour days and its great. 3 days off, every other weekend off. Its hands down better then that 4 and 2 B.S. I remember CPD coppers being so anti 12s, but you guys are missing out.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You older gents can talk all day about the "hair gels" but at least they stay in shape.
In shape and stupid as fuck!! Good luck finding your ass in your pants idiot!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Try the 10 hour days or 12. Yes 005 is screwed up because of the way that is it scheduled with the hours.. But Copy cat the 12 hour shifts like suburbs! (Yes I know CPD members will complain and say 12 hours in Chiraq would be unbearable, but imagine having every other Friday-Saturday-Sunday off) Quality of life and morale would increase tremendously.
8/23/2017 11:26:00 AM
Quality of life??? This would kill my family life. You think it's only about weekend's, sorry pal it's about my entire week. When you have a wife that works weird city hours, baby sitters that aren't available at a drop of a hat and school for the little ones this is a disaster waiting to happen. While the 4/2 isn't perfect it works since it enables officers to pick from three watches that will suit their needs. Never ever let the city go 13 hours, less officers needed means less they will hire.
765B
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Don't forget the best part.....swiping in and out. Hey sergeants, lutennants and tac guys.....get ready for full tours of duty.
8/23/2017 12:23:00 PM
Tact would then go from very little activity to nearly zero. Not much of a perk already with limited time off allowed.
8/23/2017 12:52:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I was in 012 during this schedule and there are no negatives about starting an hour earlier. That's really all this is. Everything else is up do the Lt or DSS if they want a longer roll call. But having a 45 minute rollcall means you will not get jobs until 45 minutes after the start of your tour. And what's wrong with working out? Don't you want to try to be healthy for your family and when you retire and spend as many years possible collecting your pension from this city? Or would you rather die of obesity or any other hundreds of illnesses before you get your first pension check?
8/23/2017 01:27:00 PM
Good God you sound dumb.
So you can go on IOD when you get hurt in the gym during roll call?
O/T
Sorta kinda important not really but sorta
Anyone know when the city/dept is gonna get movers? Cause my district doesn't have a single book, and hasn't had any for over a month. Not that I fkin care, but...sometimes you run into that situation, traffic crash, body cam, persons injured or whatever, and ya kinda gotta have to. So where the fk are they? Is this on purpose? Kinda feel like it is.
I was in 012 during this schedule and there are no negatives about starting an hour earlier. That's really all this is. Everything else is up do the Lt or DSS if they want a longer roll call. But having a 45 minute rollcall means you will not get jobs until 45 minutes after the start of your tour.
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You know why it worked in 012? Because they ignored it and ran it the way it used to be. No one stayed for 10 hours shifts with a 2 hour overlap and anyone who says they did is blowing smoke up your ass.
No promotions for awhile per HR. Nice try
15 min. Workout this Beat bag
Waiting for detectives class, that is suppose to be the next group of promotions. Keep dreaming on the SGTs class.
. But Copy cat the 12 hour shifts like suburbs! (Yes I know CPD members will complain and say 12 hours in Chiraq would be unbearable, but imagine having every other Friday-Saturday-Sunday off) Quality of life and morale would increase tremendously.
improve tremendously?.... maybe on paper. Reason peopel leavecthe burb departments is the 12 hour shift. It is fucking brutal to work the 12hr shift. I did it, tried it, put up with it, ultimately hated it. 2 on 2 off/2 on 3 off/ 3on 2 off. On days off you sleep and are basically a zombie, then its back to 12 hour shift. Guarantee you after 2 montha you dont even know what day of the week it is nor do you give a fuck, You're dreading the 3 day working weekend and the constant sleep deprivation. But If you can stomach the hours, you can make it work for ya.
Sorry for Bad spelling, grannar, ahitty iphone keyboard.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
So you can go on IOD when you get hurt in the gym during roll call?
8/23/2017 09:44:00 PM
I hope you haven't skimmed over all the orders, like you did with this unofficial one.
"...other activities as approved by the watch lieutenant..."
Going to guess that whoever wrote this has NO idea what sort of activities officers did for the lt/capt thirty years ago
Ha, why do you think they'd let coppers work out on company time???Because they will try it to make it a requirement to pass the POWER test annually...
"improve tremendously?.... maybe on paper. Reason peopel leavecthe burb departments is the 12 hour shift. It is fucking brutal to work the 12hr shift. I did it, tried it, put up with it, ultimately hated it. 2 on 2 off/2 on 3 off/ 3on 2 off. On days off you sleep and are basically a zombie, then its back to 12 hour shift. Guarantee you after 2 montha you dont even know what day of the week it is nor do you give a fuck, You're dreading the 3 day working weekend and the constant sleep deprivation. But If you can stomach the hours, you can make it work for ya.
Sorry for Bad spelling, grannar, ahitty iphone keyboard."
You just described how I feel about the 4 on 2 off schedule. I was a zombie on it, and basically hated life. On the other hand I love the 12 hour schedule. So different strokes for different folks.
The 4 and 2 is the worst if your on midnights. Your basically getting one day off. God forbid your RDO is cancelled then its half a day. I'll take the 12 hour shifts it improved my life greatly.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
fucking asnine,,,just another reason to keep you longer and answer calls,,,and what about 005? there will be a massive bailout in the dirty nickel fo-sure!
8/23/2017 12:37:00 AM
yeah, ok!
That place is a shithole with horrible bosses!
A more significant change would some sort of schedule that allows for one or two back-to-back weeks with 3 RDOs, like the the 6-2.
Hell NO!
Bid to 005!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If someone chooses to spend their uncompensated lunch period doing physical fitness activities, they would be violating this ridiculous order. How can you tell someone they can't spend what is essentially their time doing a perfectly legal and reasonable activity?
8/23/2017 04:40:00 AM
Of course if the copper works out for lunch they won't eat anything during their tour.
sleep!
Blogger FOP Genius said...
Maybe the FOP didn't mention it because the Department didn't mention it to them. And maybe the Department didn't mention it to them because it all complies with the contract.
8/23/2017 07:05:00 AM
FOP wouldn't know how to react to something like this or know what does and doesn't comply with the contract. Our bargaining unit is filled with idiots. Give em a call and see what I'm talking about. We are screwed!
Just like the FOP fucked us over not getting duty availability and we get our f*cking days off cancelled on RDO's, what is duty availability anyways? No on can explain it to me
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Ha, why do you think they'd let coppers work out on company time???Because they will try it to make it a requirement to pass the POWER test annually...
8/24/2017 05:00:00 AM
If they do that they better have the Lt's off this last list scoring the tests or CPD will be down 5000
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
So you can go on IOD when you get hurt in the gym during roll call?
8/23/2017 09:44:00 PM
I hope you haven't skimmed over all the orders, like you did with this unofficial one.
Believe it says you will have to sign a waiver if you work out during working hours No way you are getting IOD for working out in the gym
Makes sense. Don't need the lap over from 3 rd watch to mids now
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