Looking in the Wrong Direction
- Chicago police Superintendent Eddie Johnson on Thursday touted the department’s efforts in the Englewood patrol district, saying homicides and shootings have plunged this year in what has historically been among the city’s deadliest neighborhoods.
Speaking at a City Club of Chicago luncheon, Johnson said both homicides and shootings have dropped by more than 40 percent over the year-earlier period in which violence hit levels unseen in two decades.
"Today, and I never thought I'd say this after being a cop for nearly 30 years, Englewood is leading the city in violence reductions this year," Johnson told a couple of hundred business and civic leaders.
And who gets the credit?
- Johnson credited the department’s use of “nerve centers” in Englewood and five other police districts for helping reduce violence.
The nerve centers combine crime analysts with predictive crime software and use gun detection technology known as "ShotSpotter," as well as high-definition surveillance cameras.
“These state-of-the-art tools allow officers and civilian analysts to work smarter and faster, monitor gang conflicts in real time and make changes to our strategy as the situation dictates,” he said.
And nothing to do with the 400-plus coppers tripping over each other in the few square miles that make up Englewood? Good to know we're all so appreciated. Meanwhile, 016, 017, 022 and a few other districts make do with about 170 cops each covering far greater mileage.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
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How are homicides, robberies and aggravated batteries going in 011, Eddie?
Let's talk about homicide clearance rates compared to other major U.S. cities.
Say what? Arra arra, arra...
You talkin' to me?
The mathematical formula to get more police is 😢+😠+😡=👮👮👮👮👮. The formula to get less 😴+😪+😃=💩.
007 has so many new vehicles that there aren't enough parking spaces to hold all of them. This just shows if you fully staff somewhere which 007 is over staffed and provide equipment that works and enough of it crime will go down. No merit twin you didn't reinvent police work nor are you responsible for the drop.
Oh Englewood, oh Englewood
Our modern day cash-infused, negative tax revenue
metropolis due to multi-year corporate tax incentives,
where crime is down, thugs wear a frown, and cops
are thick as wool carpeting in a Rolls
Cmdr. Leo couldn't do it, but Cmdr. Johnson did!
How many keepers do you need for the Zoo?
They left the killing game behind -for a moment- to commit car jackings
Spreading the cancer around, Rahm is bragging about stage 4
Nothing to do with how that area has fewer assholes due to the Mexicans trickling in from getting gentrified out of other neighborhoods
State of the art? Technology? Tools to work with? Shut the fuck up. Thats bullshit. You lying politically connected hacks only get away with your lies because the media is the controlled by you. We have garbage, bullshit equipment. Quit lying to the public you liberal Sallies.🍻
Englewood has also seen a huge population drop. One entire beat has almost been bought and turned into a rail yard.
So you Flood Engelwood with Police Officers,Crimes like Robberies and Car Jackings Smash and grabs are out of control Downtown and on the Northside,Congradulations.
The nerve centers combine crime analysts with predictive crime software and use gun detection technology known as "ShotSpotter," as well as high-definition surveillance cameras. Everything that he mentioned useless. ShotSpotter- system that is put by having sensors all over the district, if three sensors don’t pick up shots being fired, then the California based company does not send it out as shots being fired. So you have someone, somewhere in California monitoring these sensors, they listen they determine if they are going to end it out or not. Nerve centers what he is calling it useless more than half of the time the cameras aren’t working, when you have a system that sometimes does capture vehicles, offenders passing by but when you zoom in the image becomes distorted- useless. Predictive crime software is data of crime that is inputted from the last five years (hunch lab) - useless. There have many incidents where ShotSpotter supposedly was operational but failed to sense shots being fired and people out there are using high powered rifles. City hires politicalu connected Retired police man and they call them crime analysts what a joke. Bottom line the city of Chicago is greasing someone pockets with all these technology that half of the time it’s not working.
You hit the nail right on the head SCC.
Englewood is merely the size of a postage stamp yet it’s saturated with CPD resources.
Besides the 400 plus officers assigned there the Wood also benefits from VRI further saturating it on a daily basis.
Meanwhile, as you say SCC, other (non community) “quieter” areas of the city absolutely starve for adequate CPD resources.
Fuck you Rahm and Ed.
When will the Sheeple wake up and make some noise?
How much has violent crime risen in other districts?
They don't pay taxes in Englewood. So why do they get all that extra police protection? Isn't that basically stealing?
Care to answer that socialist Rahm??
You forgot 12 which is far below half of what it started with when it merged with the ill fated 13.
Not only are these fuckers stripping real neighborhoods of police, but pieces of shit like John Arena want to import Englehoodians into the NW side.
Theres times he says shit so stupid you have to wonder how he even got thru that joke of a academy. He's actually bragging about a few hundred less shooting victims. Well lets look at what that can actually mean.
1, The shitheads are to busy stealing cars at gunpoint to shoot each other.
2, So many decent folks are leaving the south and west sides there are plain less targets out there to shoot.
3, Poor marksmanship. The gangbangers are only practicing with 30 rounds a year with their targets only 7 yrds and 15 yrds away. Hey if it fucks us up it follows it should fuck them up.
4, Weather. It has been proven that a year where climate change doesn't go the Liberals way by an average of 1% Celsius there are fewer people shot in Chicago.
5, Drug business is better. When Biz is better theres less reason to shoot the competition. Kind of like corporate America but with bullets.
And then he gets all technological and shit. Like its the movie Dredd and he has those drones flying around. When have you ever heard of that shot spotter shit ever doing anything, and yes we have had it for many years. We already have "shot spotters" its called "our ears" and its worked since the Dawn of Man.
But using your ears doesn't get anyone in the tribe a fat juicy contract and it sounds far more impressive talking about some NSA type nerve center where our best and brightest are using the latest tech to monitor the pulse of the city and strategize and shit, ready to deploy assets like in a Jason Beorne movie. It sounds far better then a room of clout heavy coppers playing video games and saying "Huh" a lot.
So yes you can drench a very small district of non tax payers with hundreds of cops and slow down the shooting a bit. Ask the people of Wrigleyville, uptown , and Rogers Park how thats working out for them. Or 016 where we pay taxes until were bleeding. Go look at those skinny sheets posted in that station, a District that is huge.
Meanwhile, Brighton Park and Pilsen are seeing an increase with its on-going gang war this year.
They are basically saying Englewood isn't as violent this year as it has been in previous years which translates to it still is violent.
Blatant smoke and mirrors.
Yeah, right Eddie. Clueless or liar? Which one?
It will be 500 next year the people got to get out to vote MAGA
SCC.....Your last paragraph says it all. I was thinking the exact same thing, when I saw Kidney Bean saying it on the news...That district has to be the only one with the COP on every corner, compared to here in 16, where we're lucky to have a COP on every 12 or so blocks....
Maybe Crime is down in Englewood because dudes from Englewood are out plundering & pillaging in other parts of the city - why not go where the pickins’ are better - especially if you can just Car Jack your way To & From or knock a few people over the head on the CTA along the way.
Naw, they've just spread out for better pickings in liberal neighborhoods.
heard that on the car radio yesterday...he said lowest crime drop in a CENTURY.
IN A CENTURY!
he actually said Englewood saw the lowest crime drop in a 100 years.
Wow,just wow...what a city
Very simple. They are not in Englewood committing violent crimes because they now travel to 001, 018, and other areas where the pickings are much more appealing. So if you take the increase of violent crime in the districts that historically did not have that problem and analyze the crimes , you will see that the offenders , and most of the victims, are from the shithole know as Englewood or neighborhoods like it.
Example: 007 has 123 officers assigned to 3rd watch (plus outside units, tactical and gang teams and some feds). Meanwhile 017 has ONLY 43 officers assigned to 3rd watch. That is unfair and unsafe for officers and citizens in 017. That is prejudice against high tax paying northside residents. That is racist against non-blacks on the northside!
All this to prevent very evil people from shooting other very evil people.
What a joke, 007 has more cops working in it on any one day than probably the rest of the southside districts together. In the Beverly District they keep loosing police officers and the Alderman keeps telling them the Commander is bringing in more resources. All lies! The last transfer order had 6 officers leaving 22 and they got a big 0 coming in. The Alderman has access to the numbers and should stop lieing to the people.
I'm gonna go get the papers, get the papers
This is army of occupation policing no matter what kind of spin that Eddie and Rahm put on it.
Does tripadvisor or the city's tourism website tout Englewood as a top destination?!?
Because with the dramatic and very public increase of brazen crimes downtown and surrounding areas "shops on the Mag mile (daylight hammer smash & grabs) carjackings, group strong armed robberies and shootings", etc.. maybe one should look why this crime has continued (mental health facilities closed and funding decreased, no deterrence / punishment when crimes are planned/committed, why doesn't the city work or $ do a study why/what is going on withsay Englewood that its socially acceptable to commit crimes and not call out bad behavior or call the cops (and dont give me some white privilege BS lets look at why CPS kids cant read or write at their "alleged" grade level for starters) because thats some messed up priorities
Don't forget Tom Dart tried to credit for the reduction on Chicago Tonight a week ago.
Why doesn't he talk about the other districts with these "nerve centers". Like 011 and 015 for example. Both are still a shit show even with the added manpower, shotspotter, predictive analytics. In the last 3 days alone, 015 had like 5 killed and 7 wounded. Let's talk about that Fat Head Ed.
Homicides and shootings may be down in Englewood, but Austin sure is picking up the slack (and then some).
Hey Ed, did you talk about the new crime of the year, carjacking being up 150%. No, guess not. How about crime wave (muggings, smash and grans watch robberies and assorted muggings) downtown and river north areas. No, guess not. How about Lakeview area problems, muggings, sexual assaults, robberies and Red Line assaults. No, guess not. What you did was brag about an unsustainable drop in one area. As soon as you are forced to pull back the saturation level staffing t will be business as usual in good old Englewood. Just the same old smoke and mirrors and the media ate it up. You should be ashamed to call yourself a LEO. Your nothing but a Rahm puppet. Please do the right thing for the city and go away.
What about the areas now being attacked by these displaced shitheads? It's all a smokescreen.
OT saw on the news that they stripped 6 officers and a Sgt?
One day very soon another force fed talking merited buffoon for superintedent will be saying the same prepared script for the 016th District as it will lead all others in overall crime and violence, just as the current half-man mayor had planned...
Per Wikipedia the combined population of Englewood and West Englewood was 156K for the 1960 Census and was 67K for the 2010 Census. That is a 50% population loss. Sure crime will go down, the bad people are running out of others to prey on. With so many police saturating Englewood no wonder that crime is heading to other neighborhoods.
A court system with laws that are not tough on crime, state and district prosecutors looking for social justice you have a perfect storm brewing. I don't see the situation getting better. I live in a city with a population 1/2 of West Englewood and Englewood and we have yet to have a shooting this year, but have had one fatal knifing. The courts and laws here are tougher on crime.
ex Marquette Park person
Ever notice the parallels between crime in Chicago and the way they ran the Vietnam war?🤔 our strategy is working? Lying pols and top brass? We are winning the war? Strategic hamlets? Restricted actions placed on troops? The people we are trying to save hate us...large sections of society support the enemy.
Englewood seems to be the hood the national media associates with Chicago crime. But Districts 10 & 11 are probably even worse.
Take a drive through Englewood. Hispanics are moving in and within a few years will claim the neighborhood.
M-1 burglary / home invasion team working 1621 / 1622. Quick response last night got video of suspect and getaway vehicle. Beware.
11/17/2017 03:07:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
They don't pay taxes in Englewood. So why do they get all that extra police protection? Isn't that basically stealing?
Care to answer that socialist Rahm??
11/17/2017 04:44:00 AM
Because Rahm is hellbent on incessantly pandering to “the community”
Living in 16, I would appreciate it if people would stop advertising the lack of police presence to the general public. One day the community will realize that the Central ave bus runs right up here, and it's easy to get a car for the ride back with their merchandise.
He comes to Chicago a big meeting he is for the police nothing will change though;
Deputy attorney general talks crime in Chicago, but leaves the Trumpisms in D.C.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-rosenstein-crime-speech-20171117-story.html
They are not addressing the real problem the real problem is the elected Democrats Who have caused all this mayhem all this chaos all the bloodshed all the murders due to their inept policies their criminal behavior there violations of federal laws for instance violating the federal immigration law standing up for criminals pandering to the criminals! Tommy dart Kimmy fox The mayor the 50 all the judges are responsible law and order and the city in this crooked county in the state along with the dishonest media is destroyed. When you bastardize Chicago police officers who go out on a daily basis to do the dirty job of putting away the criminals but then the police officers are destroyed in the media by the liberals and the police are beaten thrown to the curb throwing under the bus obviously the people that keep electing Democrats are happy with everything. The only thing that matters anymore is the thin blue line we will protect each other that is the name of the game self-preservation God bless the police have a nice Thanksgiving amen!
Murders are down yet I didn't do a single blue card all year. Imagine that.
It's all bullshit and I don't care anymore.
Most of 711’s beat, one of the biggest shit holes has been bull dozed and purchased by the rail road companies. Kennedy king college and the new whole foods takes up a large area and provides a positive business atmosphere. If it’s an abando, a crack head might burn it to the ground. Hispanics moving in to live in the 10 sector and not just rehabbing for section 8 are just a few things that brought the crime NUMBERS down in englewood. There’s just more assholes somewhere else now especially when everyone gets a bond and then re-bonded again and again.
When will the Sheeple wake up and make some noise?
11/17/2017 03:04:00 AM
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11/17/2017 02:41:00 AM
You are referring to the new school system.
The old school system works just fine.
Shots are spotted when the recipient is found, examined by experts and determined to have been shot.
Admittedly, even the old school system cannot achieve 100% success.
Only a higher power has the precise count.
So glad that the citizens who play such high tax dollars in the 7th district are getting the policing and crime reduction they deserve. Meanwhile the north side is suffering. Thanks Ernie Johnson!!!!
Wouldn't it be interesting to find out that more people were actually shot than instances of shootings heard by shotspotter in total? Shouldn't it be EASY by now to see one MAP of ALL the shots shotspotter heard?
And shouldn't such a map easily be something subject to a FOIA request? Heck, a simple media request made to the City?
Hey, if City politicians are going to brag about these systems, it isn't like they are secrets, right? Has anyone even asked for totals and a map of this kind?
Someone should do an analysis of the amount of coppers per square mile by district. That’s something the public can understand
Could all the empty lots & vacant houses in Englewood have anything to do with the crime reduction ???
Feel sorry for the citizens in the large districts like 016, over 30 square miles. Horribly understaffed, but stuck paying some of the highest taxes in Shitcago. Thanks Dummycrats!
Can someone point out as to how many apprehensions the cameras have?
If you squeeze a bag of shit, there will be less shit right where you squeeze, but the shits still in the bag.
J.J.
send those englewood resources to 16 , Jefferson Park and we will be crime free
northwest side taxes are subsidizing the southside
6 officers and sgt from Watts team we not stripped. Taken off the street and assigned to desk duties. 4 from 002 tact.
Aside from the 400 coppers assigned in Englewood, don't forget about the crazy number of VRI sitting on every corner...
I'm gonna go get the papers, get the papers
Rev. Jesse Jackson
Presidential Candidate 1984, 1988
History repeats itself. Old Raleigh Mathis used to brag about eliminating crime in the 3rd District (71st Maryland) failing to mention Urban Renewal and its numerous bulldozers. Ya know old Raleigh was kind of an old Bull-Dozer himself.
The 400 plus coppers are tripping over each other while staying fetal? Sure they are. Maybe on their way to and from lunch, but that’s it.
"Anonymous said...
The mathematical formula to get more police is 😢+😠+😡=👮👮👮👮👮. The formula to get less 😴+😪+😃=💩.
11/17/2017 12:20:00 AM"
That made me lol--but so true.
My experience with englewood is driving through while looking for murder suspects with the south suburban major crimes task force. I'd see a CPD squad just about every block. Waste of resources for a shitty neighborhood.
I bet there was less crime in 1960 when Englewood was still majority working class
Commander Johnson is a liar and hopefully will be exposed as one soon. Working on something that hopefully will be pickedup by the media where proof shows how he doesn’t stand up for his people. Stay tuned....
Anonymous Anonymous said...
6 officers and sgt from Watts team we not stripped. Taken off the street and assigned to desk duties. 4 from 002 tact.
11/17/2017 07:11:00 PM
Um ...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Wouldn't it be interesting to find out that more people were actually shot than instances of shootings heard by shotspotter in total? Shouldn't it be EASY by now to see one MAP of ALL the shots shotspotter heard?
And shouldn't such a map easily be something subject to a FOIA request? Heck, a simple media request made to the City?
Hey, if City politicians are going to brag about these systems, it isn't like they are secrets, right? Has anyone even asked for totals and a map of this kind?
Least we forget about the district intelligence officers, fusion unit, the commanders visiting high risk victims, the district rooms viewing the cameras and who knows what else
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Commander Johnson is a liar and hopefully will be exposed as one soon. Working on something that hopefully will be pickedup by the media where proof shows how he doesn’t stand up for his people. Stay tuned....
11/18/2017 06:01:00 AM
Sure glad the mayor dumped McCarthy and hired from within
It’s blatantly obvious that Ed is both not qualified for the position he holds and a dishonest lying bafoon. The fact that the press doesn’t pick this low hanging fruit proves that they are OWNED by Rahm in a matter of speaking. You can always follow the money as it leads to enlightenment more often times than not. The bottom line is that if the sheepole want to keep believing in their liberal leaders, let them. Give them what they vote for and deserve. STAY FETAL. It’s pointless to try to stop the avalanche. Why do we even bother to wash away the blood afterward? Arrests in Crook County are pointless.
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