Politics as Usual
Shenanigans going on at Personnel:
- The “second chance” psych results for candidates that were re-evaluated had a higher “PASS” outcome than the city anticipated.
Now, S(t)upEd has a pile of “dog shit” candidates that should not be on this job (thanks to Eddie Burk and his desire to get his wife’s guy from her State of IL security detail on the job after he failed the psych test earlier this year). The final numbers/results are in but the City is holding their files until they figure out what to do with this load of crap.
The psych portion of the entry process had been "tweaked" by Tracy Ladner in years past, resulting in most people with a military or CPD background being rejected. A number of lawsuits were filed, but we aren't sure of the status of any of them. Now someone connected gets flagged, and a retest reveals a boatload of people labeled as "unfit" are actually provable "fit for duty."
Labels: corruption
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
108 Comments:
Uhhh....Tracy Ladner. Hearing her name makes me want to puke.
The employer doesn't want the best and never has. The only thing it's moving further towards shit.
Sick of hearing Eddie Burke and his wife
and the bodyguard. Let's just fucking shoot
it out like the elevator scene in The Departed.
Quit fucking around or go back to the farm.
This is where the media needs to help us out and foia anything related to this. How can we prevent and root out corruption if questionable characters are being hired?
And Mesa 2.0 happens in...
Looking forward to Mark Geragos and some family posing with the jumbo sized check from the city signed by Rahm...
Being former military does not necessarily mean you have the skills and wisdom to be a police officer in the City of Chicago. I supervise several veterans and half are ok coppers while the other half are over armed, lack critical reasoning skills, and have zero interpersonal skills. They might be great as game wardens in Wyoming but will never be effective agents of change and community policing in Chicago. As far as the offspring of cops they are some of the biggest knuckleheads I have been forced to work with and supervise. They didn't get a merit promotion but because of famililial ties they received top promotional scores that could not have been obtained through superior job knowledge or actually locking folks up on a consistent basis. I am a proud sergeant and a veteran of two of the most rugged districts on the south side as well as a past member of the JTTF. My Dad was a bus driver and my Mom a homemaker. Not having a police background gave me a very serious competitive advantage of the military/prior police set. I actually worked and studied hard to get my undergrad and I have a far more developed sense of empathy and what it takes to be a community policing professional. We need more Englewood and Fillmore Rangers who are ready to actively engage in communities, be role models, and stand for justice not wannabe over armed Tackleberrys. As for me I still carry my old model 66 with one speed loader and a wise mind behind them. I wouldn't dream of having a rifle and pistol with 30 found clip........
My college educated kid in his late 20's with a good job resume was rejected during the Ladner regime. He told them his parents were the police (non clouted). He called them trying to get information and they blew him off. I would be interested in hearing about or joining any lawsuit.
Ah yes the Chicago Way raises it's ugly head once again.
The chief Judge of Bridgeview who son work for Burke fail the test and went to work for jess white now he is on the job CPD he went to court and loss the case but he made it this is the Chicago way
Off topic.. why did I just watch a news a news segment saying all cpd officers are now equipped with body worn cameras when everyone in a unit clearly does not? Ex. Gang enforcement?
This shit has to stop call the US Attorney office report it
Same shit 25 years ago.
What a corrupt POS this outfit and city are.
There is no leaway with the MMPI. It's a True/false test. People trying to get on this job are being honest. So when a question is posed as, "I have smoked marijuana," even if they smoked it 20 years ago, they answer yes. Another example, "once in a while I think about things too ba to talk about." Eveybody does, but if you answer true, they think you are a head case. Also, many of the questions are repeated, but worded differently. S you might not answer it the same. If this happens, they look at you as a liar. I actually was told I was "Not acceptable" but was givine the option to come down and talk to the dept shrink. Once I explained my answers (which were related to my parents nasty divorce), she was like, "Oh, ok."
Having military experience or relatives on the force doesn't necessarily qualifies a person for the job...........
This shouldn't alarm any one this is one of the Chicago values the runt in city hall proclaims...
If you're on parole, can you be sworn in, or is that only for folk on probation? (Heavyweights only)
Anyone ever hear of the brightest and the best?
People still coming on this job? Why?
I know a good, perfectly normal kid who failed the psych earlier this year. Hes as solid as they come, and has wanted to be the police since childhood. Has a four year degree in criminal justice from Western. What's his problem??? The only thing I can figure is that he is white. So he went for the 2nd chance psych evaluation over two months ago and hasn't heard anything since. Now it all makes sense.
It's funny, the Department can't get enough good people to take this job, then when they get one, they wash him out because him or her aren't the right color. Unbelievable!
O.T.
Crazy all over, from th NY Post:
First it was pizza for Rikers inmates. Now Mayor de Blasio is making crime pay — with gift cards.
Don't let him one up ya Rahm!!!
This load of crap will result in many lawsuits committed by these unfit mental midgets who got a pass thanks to Ed Burke and company. Hasn’t this guy and his wife done enough to screw us for the next decade and now we have to deal with this and a boat load of unfit connected idiots. Nepotism at its best and it will never go awayy
SCC, your post is a little confusing. Are you saying these candidates were legitimately excluded as unfit, or they were improperly zeroed out because they were targeted? If the latter, then what does it matter if a law suit or a call got the improper exclusions "reversed?" A call would help a few, but it sounds like there was a "1990's" style blanket exclusion going on and it should have been made right. By the way, anyone know or care to comment on who handled the law suit way back then that reversed that travesty?
UNFUCKIN BELIEVABLE , OEMC has the same problem BUT WORSE NOW , with the SECOND CHANCE OFFENDER PROGRAM , Not only did they bring in hundreds of TRAFFIC AIDES that were to Violent to be in the Program ,,, those Stupid Frickin MORONS even decided to bring in DRUG USERS with records and a Couple of ex Prostitutes to work Traffic ,THIS IS NO LIE , this has been checked out ,, Many complaints have already been Filed on Traffic Aides being high while directing Traffic and Causing Accidents. Who the hell in there right Mind would Hire Drug addicts to Direct Traffic - CHICAGO WOULD , Who the hell would Hire Criminals with Violent Battery Records to work at OEMC and Direct Traffic - CHICAGO WOULD ,
Let me give you a Example Below = and this Traffic Aide was arrested while on duty as a Traffic Aide , and Mug shot taken even with her Lime Traffic Vest On , UNFRICKIN BELIEVABLE , and shes still working I Hear - Only In Chicago
http://publicsearch1.chicagopolice.org/Arrests?FirstName=Tiara&LastName=Hill&CbNumber=&ChargeId=&CPDArea=&District=&Beat=
If the money came out of the Bureaucrats and Political Hacks pockets, this would not happen. The Shitty has paid in the past when their manner of "arbitrary" and politically selective hiring has been caught. And it may well happen again over the Psych and Polygraph Testing. Some of my former students have failed Shitcaga testing, but been hired by other Agencies with more stringent, but Fair hiring practices. And remember, the use of the Polygraph is something that did not come into use here until Superintendent Weiss. The Police Entrance exam is being given on an almost annual basis, and the reason is simple: CPD cannot reach its goals of hiring Black Male Officers. That is the reality that nobody wants to admit. When it is being proven that the scores are being manipulated; We the taxpayers will be whipping out the checkbook, again to pay damages to applicants. The Shitty never seems to learn Baby "G"
When I came otj part of our psych test was to draw a picture (no stick figures) of a man and a picture of a woman. We also had to draw a picture of a man standing in the rain. I guess they wanted to see if we would give him an umbrella.
Mr jttf, you just keep right on trying to change the community, good luck !
Father of the rejected ,he's better off.
Call the US Attorney office let them investigate time to stop this
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This is where the media needs to help us out and foia anything related to this. How can we prevent and root out corruption if questionable characters are being hired?
12/11/2017 12:48:00 AM
HaHaHaHaHa......... Have you seen our command staff. Plus the media helping out, not a chance.
I know you’re going to be vilified, Sarge, but this post is one of the most profound written here in a long time:
Being former military does not necessarily mean you have the skills and wisdom to be a police officer in the City of Chicago. I supervise several veterans and half are ok coppers while the other half are over armed, lack critical reasoning skills, and have zero interpersonal skills. They might be great as game wardens in Wyoming but will never be effective agents of change and community policing in Chicago. As far as the offspring of cops they are some of the biggest knuckleheads I have been forced to work with and supervise. They didn't get a merit promotion but because of famililial ties they received top promotional scores that could not have been obtained through superior job knowledge or actually locking folks up on a consistent basis. I am a proud sergeant and a veteran of two of the most rugged districts on the south side as well as a past member of the JTTF. My Dad was a bus driver and my Mom a homemaker. Not having a police background gave me a very serious competitive advantage of the military/prior police set. I actually worked and studied hard to get my undergrad and I have a far more developed sense of empathy and what it takes to be a community policing professional. We need more Englewood and Fillmore Rangers who are ready to actively engage in communities, be role models, and stand for justice not wannabe over armed Tackleberrys. As for me I still carry my old model 66 with one speed loader and a wise mind behind them. I wouldn't dream of having a rifle and pistol with 30 found clip........
12/11/2017 01:03:00 AM
I never served in the military, but I have tremendous respect for those who honorably have. However, having military experience does not make you better qualified to be a civilian police officer. Certainly not, as OP has stated, in 2017 in Chicago. In fact, the - admittedly limited - studies of military experience and police work show no correlation between that military experience and success as a police officer (note, however, that one study out of the NYPD showed that former Marines used more force than non-military).
To use a hackneyed phrase, some of my best friends were in the military. But, you know what, it didn’t make them better coppers. As a very experienced manager in this organization, I think the best pool of candidates comes from the college educated who have had a full-time job for a couple of years.
Go ahead, whine away...
12/11/2017 01:03:00 AM
I sure hope you are not the police because you sir are an idiot.
Being former military does not necessarily mean you have the skills and wisdom to be a police officer in the City of Chicago. I supervise several veterans and half are ok coppers while the other half are over armed, lack critical reasoning skills, and have zero interpersonal skills. They might be great as game wardens in Wyoming but will never be effective agents of change and community policing in Chicago. As far as the offspring of cops they are some of the biggest knuckleheads I have been forced to work with and supervise. They didn't get a merit promotion but because of famililial ties they received top promotional scores that could not have been obtained through superior job knowledge or actually locking folks up on a consistent basis. I am a proud sergeant and a veteran of two of the most rugged districts on the south side as well as a past member of the JTTF. My Dad was a bus driver and my Mom a homemaker. Not having a police background gave me a very serious competitive advantage of the military/prior police set. I actually worked and studied hard to get my undergrad and I have a far more developed sense of empathy and what it takes to be a community policing professional. We need more Englewood and Fillmore Rangers who are ready to actively engage in communities, be role models, and stand for justice not wannabe over armed Tackleberrys. As for me I still carry my old model 66 with one speed loader and a wise mind behind them. I wouldn't dream of having a rifle and pistol with 30 found clip........
Blah blah blah.......give this guy another drink of that kool ade.
Is this just another lowering of standards or a re-arrangement just so unqualified individuals can be a cop? I've no doubt every law enforcement agency in the country, big and small, has it's problems, but when liberal politicians are stirred into the mix, it really makes a nasty shit stew and a piss poor place to live.
There's no place in law enforcement for politics.
J.J.
01:03:00 AM
Seek help immediately!
You must get this matter in federal court this is the only way it will stop
The pompous asshole supposed "proud sergeant"who posted above whines that some men he "supervises" are not good "Agents of Change" The poor brain washed moron belongs on our crooked Mayors's staff, not on the police Dept. Agents of Change, my ass!
Will they pay into the pension? If yes, Let em on. In fact since they are nuts, charge them double!
Let them hire all the nutjobs. The lawsuits will pile up and taxes will be raised every month.
FETAL
Dont forget that lovely clearance rate either for homicides.
was Tracy Ladner the one who complained about "rough-and-tumble white guys with a basic education?"
or was that someone else?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
There is no leaway with the MMPI. It's a True/false test. People trying to get on this job are being honest. So when a question is posed as, "I have smoked marijuana," even if they smoked it 20 years ago, they answer yes. Another example, "once in a while I think about things too ba to talk about." Eveybody does, but if you answer true, they think you are a head case. Also, many of the questions are repeated, but worded differently. S you might not answer it the same. If this happens, they look at you as a liar. I actually was told I was "Not acceptable" but was givine the option to come down and talk to the dept shrink. Once I explained my answers (which were related to my parents nasty divorce), she was like, "Oh, ok."
12/11/2017 05:22:00 AM
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true. there was one question ..."I get overwhelmed when life gets too stressful" or something along those limes. I answered "true" - note: I didn't say I was forced to drink a bottle of draino. I had just gone through a divorce and was very young. It was an honest answer. But I also had to come in an explain it.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Being former military does not necessarily mean you have the skills and wisdom to be a police officer in the City of Chicago. I supervise several veterans and half are ok coppers while the other half are over armed, lack critical reasoning skills, and have zero interpersonal skills. They might be great as game wardens in Wyoming but will never be effective agents of change and community policing in Chicago. As far as the offspring of cops they are some of the biggest knuckleheads I have been forced to work with and supervise. They didn't get a merit promotion but because of famililial ties they received top promotional scores that could not have been obtained through superior job knowledge or actually locking folks up on a consistent basis. I am a proud sergeant and a veteran of two of the most rugged districts on the south side as well as a past member of the JTTF. My Dad was a bus driver and my Mom a homemaker. Not having a police background gave me a very serious competitive advantage of the military/prior police set. I actually worked and studied hard to get my undergrad and I have a far more developed sense of empathy and what it takes to be a community policing professional. We need more Englewood and Fillmore Rangers who are ready to actively engage in communities, be role models, and stand for justice not wannabe over armed Tackleberrys. As for me I still carry my old model 66 with one speed loader and a wise mind behind them. I wouldn't dream of having a rifle and pistol with 30 found clip........
12/11/2017 01:03:00 AM
Try dealing with the traffic and the yuppies/hipsters in 019 . I'd rather deal with serial killers.
Dan Herbert handled the lawsuit against Ladner and did a horrible job. He was too i interested intheVan Dykje case and didn't prepare, he has an awful win loss record. Might be good to use for a real estate closing. My relative is doing good in the burbs.
Oh boy, the Sgt. Knuckle head spouting off about veterans and police in your family you seem awfully biased. It’s time for you to go. And take your one speed loader with you. “Competitive advantage.” Maybe veterans know a thing or two about being prepared. And referring to people as “Rangers” is completely contradictory to “community policing.” Retire already.
Even though Ladner is off fucking something else up her effects are still felt in CPD.
What is FOP doing about is matter nothing retired policeofficer CPD
Lowering the bar to get their “crew” in. Sickening!
please don't take this job it will be the the CTA or Postoffice in a few years and no more overtime Saw the Repo man around 22 Dist
Anonymous said...
Being former military does not necessarily mean you have the skills and wisdom to be a police officer in the City of Chicago. I supervise several veterans and half are ok coppers while the other half are over armed, lack critical reasoning skills, and have zero interpersonal skills. They might be great as game wardens in Wyoming but will never be effective agents of change and community policing in Chicago. As far as the offspring of cops they are some of the biggest knuckleheads I have been forced to work with and supervise. They didn't get a merit promotion but because of famililial ties they received top promotional scores that could not have been obtained through superior job knowledge or actually locking folks up on a consistent basis. I am a proud sergeant and a veteran of two of the most rugged districts on the south side as well as a past member of the JTTF. My Dad was a bus driver and my Mom a homemaker. Not having a police background gave me a very serious competitive advantage of the military/prior police set. I actually worked and studied hard to get my undergrad and I have a far more developed sense of empathy and what it takes to be a community policing professional. We need more Englewood and Fillmore Rangers who are ready to actively engage in communities, be role models, and stand for justice not wannabe over armed Tackleberrys. As for me I still carry my old model 66 with one speed loader and a wise mind behind them. I wouldn't dream of having a rifle and pistol with 30 found clip........
12/11/2017 01:03:00 AM
How do you ever find a hat big enough?
Goof.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"Being former military does not necessarily mean you have the skills and wisdom to be a police officer in the City of Chicago. I supervise several veterans and half are ok coppers while the other half are over armed, lack critical reasoning skills, and have zero interpersonal skills. They might be great as game wardens in Wyoming but will never be effective agents of change and community policing in Chicago. As far as the offspring of cops they are some of the biggest knuckleheads I have been forced to work with and supervise. They didn't get a merit promotion but because of famililial ties they received top promotional scores that could not have been obtained through superior job knowledge or actually locking folks up on a consistent basis. I am a proud sergeant and a veteran of two of the most rugged districts on the south side as well as a past member of the JTTF. My Dad was a bus driver and my Mom a homemaker. Not having a police background gave me a very serious competitive advantage of the military/prior police set. I actually worked and studied hard to get my undergrad and I have a far more developed sense of empathy and what it takes to be a community policing professional. We need more Englewood and Fillmore Rangers who are ready to actively engage in communities, be role models, and stand for justice not wannabe over armed Tackleberrys. As for me I still carry my old model 66 with one speed loader and a wise mind behind them. I wouldn't dream of having a rifle and pistol with 30 found clip........"
12/11/2017 01:03:00 AM
I don't think anyone is saying that former military or family members of coppers are better qualified than anyone else, though I would tend to believe that former military are already used to discipline and a chain of command. They are being classified as unfit based on their veteran status or being a family member of a cop. That is wrong no matter how you look at it. You also strike me as a tool. "Engage the community?" Seriously? "Wouldn't dream of having a rifle and pistol with 30 round clip?" You sound like a social justice warrior who engages in verbal judo. Also, it's called a MAGAZINE, not a clip. How any seasoned copper can make that mistake is beyond me.
OT. Why was the news stating that ALL CPD officers have now been issued body cameras. All.....with the number being reported as 7,000. So does that tell us that the full staffing that the 9 digit midget has been telling the media, and the media ran with has been BS from the get go? From 12,000 to full staffing at 7000? No wonder crime is up and the pension is broke.
More of The Right Man for the Right Time™ going along and toeing the company line.
Put someone in place for a future position provided they maintain the mandates.
He really doesn’t get to hire.
For some, the undisclosed open enrollment for sorting and pick & choose candidates, there was a second chance.
(Psychologically thinking or physically being Caucasian is a medical condition determined through genetics, therefore shouldn’t be used to determine hiring, which the City requires to establish a majority of diversity.)
The Burke guy is going to move up the ranks fast, that’s a guarantee and no bs test score is going to determine that.
About time DOJ investigates all of these crooked scumbag politicians, and no better place to start then with Chicago’s career criminal himself Eddie the (Sleaze Bag )Burke . Love to see this piece of Shit, and his Bitch of an old lady taken away in handcuffs on the 6 o’clock news. A Big Fuck You to Eddie & Annie you’ll both look good in prison orange ! Your neighbors from 52nd & Sangamon !
Anonymous said...
As for me I still carry my old model 66 with one speed loader and a wise mind behind them. I wouldn't dream of having a rifle and pistol with 30 found clip........
12/11/2017 01:03:00 AM
As another "old" revolver dinosaur, as a "supervisor" you should know you are required by G.O. to carry TWO speed loaders.
I have no idea how I passed the psych test, I'm nucking futs.
Dan Herbert lost that lawsuit and just about everything else his firm touches.
Came on the job many years ago. During the background investigation the Detective that came to my home to interview me told me that because my Dad was on the job I would be found psychologically unfit. He told me not his choice, policy. He then told me to appeal the ruling and request a hearing. I did and was directed to go to an office on Michigan Av where I was interviewed for less than 5 minutes by a psychologist. He asked me if I knew why I was there and I replied "No". He stated that he did know why either. Asked me my personal background info and that was it. Hearing Officer told the City that she was sick and tired of having to adjudicate cases like mine and that I would be recommended as fit for duty. Here I am 28 years later. If denied due to psych test; APPPEAL!
To the old sergeant with the speed loader you have probably never been in a shooting in your life you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about the felons on the street have us outgunned 10 to 1 before you open up your mouth and call a former serviceman tackle Barry you have absolutely no idea what kind of combat situation a person has been in you have no idea what you are talking about. I think that it is time for you to retire this is not the 1960s anymore.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off topic.. why did I just watch a news a news segment saying all cpd officers are now equipped with body worn cameras when everyone in a unit clearly does not? Ex. Gang enforcement?
12/11/2017 03:59:00 AM
Read it in paper this morning. Article said all 7,000 patrol officers and sgts now have the cameras
Anonymous Anonymous said...
My college educated kid in his late 20's with a good job resume was rejected during the Ladner regime. He told them his parents were the police (non clouted). He called them trying to get information and they blew him off. I would be interested in hearing about or joining any lawsuit.
12/11/2017 01:09:00 AM
Don’t think there is a lawsuit going. Best time to file it would have been when it occurred
Isn’t there a test this month and wasn’t there a test earlier this year. Now that Ladner is gone if he took either of those tests and with this latest development, that might be the way to go
Being former military does not necessarily mean you have the skills and wisdom to be a police officer in the City of Chicago. I supervise several veterans and half are ok coppers while the other half are over armed, lack critical reasoning skills, and have zero interpersonal skills.
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Shut the fuck up and go eat your pea soup. You sound like the best supervisor there ever was, in your own mind. No one gives a fuck about your personal life, upbringing and hardships. Why? Because we've all had them, asshole. You think you're the only one that came from modest means? Ditto with where you've been. JTTF? So you have juice, good for you but again, no one gives a fuck. I completely disagree with your simplistic views of veterans and how you think we need to police. Newsflash, dickhead, policing is done, finished, over. Now go clean your trusty old wheel gun....when bad guys are carrying extendos, rifles and body armor, let me know how that works out of you. I've seen plenty of those (body armor only a couple) and I hope you'd fair well with your wheel gun.
There is no leaway with the MMPI
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This test is a joke. Some of the original questions remain, such as "I like Alice in Wonderland: true or false." Answer yes indicated a level of psychological fragility. BTW, read the history of the genesis of this idiotic evaluation as it relates to the control group; who/how many were "deviant" versus normal.
I would like to respond to "Anonymous", who supervises veterans and feel they are not good, "Agents for Change." The mere use of that term sounds like a Merit Promotion or serious Kool Aid drinker. I too supervised veterans and found them to be far more disciplined and more mature than their non-veteran counterparts, many of whom were working their first real job, but still sleeping at their parents home. My veterans were of all races and genders, including Gay veterans. Now granted I will admit that I too was a veteran and came on at a time when much of the Department was veterans due to the Draft which ended in the mid 70's. Many of my bosses back then were veterans, and the ones who were not received deferments because they were either clouted or not physically fit to serve. The Police have historically been "Agents" for the maintenance of peace, stability and order. In "Communities", which is code word for Black neighborhoods, there is great instability, and they continue to blame racism for unemployment and single parent, usually the mother households. Since the Civil Rights Act of '64 many minorities have come to Chicago, unable to even speak English; yet they thrived. On the Northside the Vietnamese, Cambodians and Thais are prime examples. Changing the way people live and their values is not the role of the police, and if you think that is your role, then you are destined for failure, or a job as an instructor at the Academy! Other forces in society must assume responsibility for Sociological "Change", and those are elected officials, clergy and educators. Unfortunately in Chicago, Educators, Clergy and Elected Officials are often compromised by Money and Power. I feel badly for officers who are supervised under your authority, because you have an attitude and arrogance, that supervisors should not have. You are not all that "Special". In fact you are just another cop, with the Privilege and Opportunity of guiding and protecting other cops and residents from the evil members of society. After all is said and done, the "Community" will Never really trust you, and will continue to detest you because you represent authority and Power, that they do not really have, yet. Good Luck, and I hope you have the opportunity to encounter a couple of "Community" members high on drugs and with a desire to harm cops. Then you can show them and everyone else how your "Agents for Change" and Social Justice Warrior tactics work out. Best Wishes. Baby "G"
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Being former military does not necessarily mean you have the skills and wisdom to be a police officer in the City of Chicago. I supervise several veterans and half are ok coppers while the other half are over armed, lack critical reasoning skills, and have zero interpersonal skills. They might be great as game wardens in Wyoming but will never be effective agents of change and community policing in Chicago. As far as the offspring of cops they are some of the biggest knuckleheads I have been forced to work with and supervise. They didn't get a merit promotion but because of famililial ties they received top promotional scores that could not have been obtained through superior job knowledge or actually locking folks up on a consistent basis. I am a proud sergeant and a veteran of two of the most rugged districts on the south side as well as a past member of the JTTF. My Dad was a bus driver and my Mom a homemaker. Not having a police background gave me a very serious competitive advantage of the military/prior police set. I actually worked and studied hard to get my undergrad and I have a far more developed sense of empathy and what it takes to be a community policing professional. We need more Englewood and Fillmore Rangers who are ready to actively engage in communities, be role models, and stand for justice not wannabe over armed Tackleberrys. As for me I still carry my old model 66 with one speed loader and a wise mind behind them. I wouldn't dream of having a rifle and pistol with 30 found clip........
You’re a complete fucking Moron boss, I’ll take a former military officer anyday over an old timer that is still carrying a wheel gun. Rather have a taclkberry that is equipped with the current environment of weapons the bad guys have. A fellow KMA who’s adopted to change.
And I’ve worked with plenty of bosses I wouldn’t let pick my dogs shit bc they’ll fuck it up. Just bc you passed an exam or made a phone call to get promoted doesn’t make you a leader. And you certainly don’t sound like an effective one.
Off topic.. why did I just watch a news a news segment saying all cpd officers are now equipped with body worn cameras when everyone in a unit clearly does not? Ex. Gang enforcement?
Scumtimes read that all police IN PATROL DEPARTMENT had cameras. Units not in patrol are without.
Uhhh....Tracy Ladner. Hearing her name makes me want to puke.
12/11/2017 12:09:00 AM
What happened to that POS?
Ill take anyone that's Prior Military any day , over the SHIT that's been coming in , And will be coming In a lot more , Ex Gang Members and POS that they will allow in a lot more of , no one will be wanting to work with , WAKE UP PEOPLE - DOES ANYONE REMEMBER the recruit that was in the Academy not long ago that was showing up to class in a Stolen vehicle , Well its a lot worse now , Call in a Nuke Strike this City has gone to the Dogs , Point of NO return , Mark My WORDS
The chief Judge of Bridgeview who son work for Burke fail the test and went to work for jess white now he is on the job CPD he went to court and loss the case but he made it this is the Chicago way
12/11/2017 03:47:00 AM
Hope to god you didn't make it..wtf
Anonymous said...
Having military experience or relatives on the force doesn't necessarily qualifies a person for the job...........
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It doesn't disqualify them either - except when Tracy Ladner was in charge. Dork
" I wouldn't dream of having a rifle and pistol with 30 found clip........"
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To the Sgt who posted the above statement, why not carry a rifle? It seem that you would rather give the edge to the bad guy with superior fire power then your our troops. And this makes you tactical unfit. You also brag about how you still carry a revolver, like this is a badge of honor? I can say with certainty that I have the same amount of time as you, if not more and I traded in my revolver for a higher capacity weapon because when shit hits the fan, its all about shot placement AND more ammo.
Be careful out there sarge.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off topic.. why did I just watch a news a news segment saying all cpd officers are now equipped with body worn cameras when everyone in a unit clearly does not? Ex. Gang enforcement?
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Let’s keep on topic ........
The City of Chicago has been in a death spiral for some time now. Under Liberal Democrat control a once thriving vibrant city is on its knees. We will be Detroit in no time soon. No one will care who the police are then. Nothing to see here now move along.
JTTF?? Enough said, no one evewr earned their way there. Also, quit with the "Ranger" nomnsense, it symbolizes exactly what you criticizing.
Take the fire test or suburban copper test,screw Chicago!
Being in the warzone doesn't make anyone a shoo-in for this job. The military is different from policing.Disciplined? Honorable? Ready out of the box?... Yeah right!
To use a hackneyed phrase, some of my best friends were in the military. But, you know what, it didn’t make them better coppers. As a very experienced manager in this organization, I think the best pool of candidates comes from the college educated who have had a full-time job for a couple of years.
Go ahead, whine away...
Absolutely agree with you!
622am His problem is that he wasted 4 yrs of college for an unnecessary degree. If a bachelor's in criminal justice made a difference you wouldn't need to still certify like everyone else. I've worked with several people from Western. You would have been just the same getting a degree in farting from any accredited school. It has nothing to do with working the street. I had a master's degree before I got on the job. Unless you answer your calls, take your paper and do your job day in and day out...no one cares. We can talk my degrees when I'm interviewing, trying to move up..otherwise it's a tool not a defining characteristic. I met plenty of idiots in the Army, more in college and still more on the job.
12/11/2017 06:02:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I know a good, perfectly normal kid who failed the psych earlier this year. Hes as solid as they come, and has wanted to be the police since childhood. Has a four year degree in criminal justice from Western. What's his problem??? The only thing I can figure is that he is white. So he went for the 2nd chance psych evaluation over two months ago and hasn't heard anything since. Now it all makes sense.
It's funny, the Department can't get enough good people to take this job, then when they get one, they wash him out because him or her aren't the right color. Unbelievable!
12/11/2017 06:22:00 AM
Stop defending your psychotic son. Are you seriously talking about race here now that reality has set in? STFU and tell junior to work on that social skills while bagging those groceries at Jewel.
"Sarge Six Shooter" has to be working the CAPS Unit. How else could he get the job without promoting this philosophy. What a progressive view on life. I once worked with a boss like this who stated: " I would rather be shot than to have to shoot someone. I couldn't live with it NO MATTER THE CIRCUMSTANCES." I suggested that he get into another line of work considering he may have to defend a fellow cop or innocent citizen. I suggest that Sarge look into being a social worker or member of the clergy before he gets put into a situation where he has to act like the real police.
From 1976:
https://youtu.be/PdysW4Pw_SE
Forgetaboutit,it all the clout, been like this for 100yrs,call you’re chinaman you get pushed up on the list,You need that sponsor.whos you’re Daddy.
That idiot Stan Golucki finally retired. We was like 73 yrs old and has been doing background investigations since his days at 11th/State. He was the most anti-military and anti-police lapdog that Ladner owned. He sold his soul to her and did her dirty work in exchange for a Cush spot for his son in OCD.
Is there now two psych vendors for the hiring process?
Hey super sarge I bet you get to use your "degree" a lot in those " rugged" districts. Criminal Justice or Art History? ♠️
Anonymous said...
OT. Why was the news stating that ALL CPD officers have now been issued body cameras. All.....with the number being reported as 7,000. So does that tell us that the full staffing that the 9 digit midget has been telling the media, and the media ran with has been BS from the get go? From 12,000 to full staffing at 7000? No wonder crime is up and the pension is broke.
Read the newspaper and comprehend. The article stated all 7,000 PATROL officers and sgts had cameras. Big difference PATROL
Being former military does not necessarily mean you have the skills and wisdom to be a police officer in the City of Chicago. I supervise several veterans and half are ok coppers while the other half are over armed, lack critical reasoning skills, and have zero interpersonal skills. They might be great as game wardens in Wyoming but will never be effective agents of change and community policing in Chicago. As far as the offspring of cops they are some of the biggest knuckleheads I have been forced to work with and supervise. They didn't get a merit promotion but because of famililial ties they received top promotional scores that could not have been obtained through superior job knowledge or actually locking folks up on a consistent basis. I am a proud sergeant and a veteran of two of the most rugged districts on the south side as well as a past member of the JTTF. My Dad was a bus driver and my Mom a homemaker. Not having a police background gave me a very serious competitive advantage of the military/prior police set. I actually worked and studied hard to get my undergrad and I have a far more developed sense of empathy and what it takes to be a community policing professional. We need more Englewood and Fillmore Rangers who are ready to actively engage in communities, be role models, and stand for justice not wannabe over armed Tackleberrys. As for me I still carry my old model 66 with one speed loader and a wise mind behind them. I wouldn't dream of having a rifle and pistol with 30 found clip........
12/11/2017 01:03:00 AM
Oh you're right. One of those poleeecus hired by the politicians from the "community" with a double wide ass that's always late and shoots the asbestos ceilings instead of the target during qualifications makes a much better police officer than a military veteran. You jackass. You're one of those typical supervisors who's the smartest person in the room and the greatest copper that ever lived in his own mind. You've always got a war story that's better than the next guy's. You're the supervisor that nobody wants to work for except for the 2 year wonder tactical warrior that's still dumb enough to drink your koolaid and eat your bullshit. Every other copper on the job has a term for you and it's STROKE. Do us all a favor and retire today because supervisors like you are the biggest problem in a department plagued by problems. Englewood and Fillmore Rangers... you STROKE.
P.S. I'd like to see you go up against one of these modern day thug bangers who's armed with an AK-47 and wearing body armor with your old model 66, whatever the hell that is. You'll be begging for one of those over armed rifle wielding military veterans (Tackleberrys as you call them) to show up and save your sorry ass. Stroke.
Dad, mom, big sister, and junior all on the job.. Yeah all very much qualified.. Like running a family business.. Yet most bitch about the Daleys, Madigans, and other political clans running the show. Always something to whine, especially if little Johnny doesn't get on the job. Breaks the tradition..
Man... those guys from the CTA really are proud of their uniforms. Did you ever see those old timers that have an actual metal sheild they can pin to their winter hats or on their shoulder? Do they have to take a psych enam to drive a bus?
I remember back in '94...The second chance Psych classes were nothing but trouble. The spitball class that got their stars taken away the week they got them. One of the Austin 7 was a reject. Lots of druggies, and off duty incidents requiring firing. Some of them are retiring now. Never should have been the Police....its the same old story, same old song and dance...
Angry responses from ex military at the old revolver Supervisor are counter-intuitive, and make ye seem a bit unhinged. Might I offer you an ale so you can relax?
Be glad if your son daughter boyfriend or girlfriend failed. They can go get a job with a decent department and hopefully far away from the cesspool of Chicago.
Doesn't CPD have any type of Inspector General? If they can catch dirty work at CPS, can't they zero in on any of this stuff?
Take a walk inside the academy lately? It's a scary scene. It will be fun to watch 10 years from now.
Anonymous said...
Angry responses from ex military at the old revolver Supervisor are counter-intuitive, and make ye seem a bit unhinged. Might I offer you an ale so you can relax?
12/11/2017 11:54:00 PM
Well don’t say stupid ignorant shit. Might I offer you some of the sergeant’s kool aid? You seem like you enjoy drinking it.
Well, if you've served in the military, have finally started receiving the thank yous from a grateful nation you so richly deserve, have become men and women with strong moral values and a strong sense of right and wrong, well that's suspicious to liberals.
Says a lot about liberals.
J.J.
Retired now, but my four sons have been told, don't even try to get on the job. The Psych portion of the process would eliminate their changes without a doubt. Two are Army Rangers, one is Airborne 82nd, and the other is a Marine Sniper. All served in Afghanistan or Iraqi. Fuck this Mayor and the Department, my sons are doing very well, and I'm glad they are not on this bullshit police department. Lastly, they all have their concealed carry and have taken the time to learn when and not to use deadly force.
All four turned out well, people I'm blessed. Stay Fetal and safe, this City, the CPD, is not worth it.
To the idiot referring to Stan G......your a stroke. SG served in the United States Army and was a good patrolman and detective. His son won an arbitration award because of the incompetence of Tracy Ladner.so before you spew fake news get your facts straight.
Angry responses from ex military at the old revolver Supervisor are counter-intuitive, and make ye seem a bit unhinged. Might I offer you an ale so you can relax?
^That's exactly what I was thinking. Being prior military myself I can tell you for fact the individuals commenting pro carrying M4's, extended clips, and other "sexy"(read: non functional) gear were either never deployed or deployed but never conducted any patrols. Would have called them POG's but even POG's patrolled from time to time. These heros were in the rear with the gear. High speed Rangers and mariners.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Retired now, but my four sons have been told, don't even try to get on the job. The Psych portion of the process would eliminate their changes without a doubt. Two are Army Rangers, one is Airborne 82nd, and the other is a Marine Sniper. All served in Afghanistan or Iraqi. Fuck this Mayor and the Department, my sons are doing very well, and I'm glad they are not on this bullshit police department. Lastly, they all have their concealed carry and have taken the time to learn when and not to use deadly force.
All four turned out well, people I'm blessed. Stay Fetal and safe, this City, the CPD, is not worth it.
Ignore what they have been told and by who. Anyone in a position to know that wouldn’t be going around telling them. Tell them to try and see what happens. If they are psyched, appeal it. Do not listen to what someone says. Find out for yourself
I can tell you one thing for sure. There have been plenty of daughters and sons of police officers and retired police officers going thru the academy along with plenty of veterans
Don’t understand how you could listen to that BS.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Retired now, but my four sons have been told, don't even try to get on the job. The Psych portion of the process would eliminate their changes without a doubt. Two are Army Rangers, one is Airborne 82nd, and the other is a Marine Sniper. All served in Afghanistan or Iraqi. Fuck this Mayor and the Department, my sons are doing very well, and I'm glad they are not on this bullshit police department. Lastly, they all have their concealed carry and have taken the time to learn when and not to use deadly force.
All four turned out well, people I'm blessed. Stay Fetal and safe, this City, the CPD, is not worth it.
Glad they all turned out well and you should be proud of them. If they are still young enough have them take the CPD test
Think of it this way. Prior to going into the military, what would have happened if they were told. No the marines and army won’t take you. Would they have said OK and not applied. I would hope not. Same applies to the CPD
Also several of my police friends have kids that are in the academy, waiting to enter the academy after passing all the test and several who have completed the academy in the last few years
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Take a walk inside the academy lately? It's a scary scene. It will be fun to watch 10 years from now.
I said in the early 80’s when things started to change that the CPD just started to go downhill and would continue to do so.
Anonymous said...
Angry responses from ex military at the old revolver Supervisor are counter-intuitive, and make ye seem a bit unhinged. Might I offer you an ale so you can relax?
^That's exactly what I was thinking. Being prior military myself I can tell you for fact the individuals commenting pro carrying M4's, extended clips, and other "sexy"(read: non functional) gear were either never deployed or deployed but never conducted any patrols. Would have called them POG's but even POG's patrolled from time to time. These heros were in the rear with the gear. High speed Rangers and mariners.
12/12/2017 12:47:00 PM
Did you carry your old model 66 with one speed loader on your patrols in Afghanistan Rambo?
“I know a good, perfectly normal kid who failed the psych earlier this year. Hes as solid as they come, and has wanted to be the police since childhood. Has a four year degree in criminal justice from Western. What's his problem??? The only thing I can figure is that he is white. So he went for the 2nd chance psych evaluation over two months ago and hasn't heard anything since. Now it all makes sense.”
Another worthless degree. Advise him to go to Law School or get his CPA and go the Fed route.
No perfectly normal kid would waste his time trying to get hired by CPD.
103am sounds like the female Sgt. from 003. Throwing out everywhere SHE has been and everything she has done while trying to have a CAPS meeting at a 10-1 when one of her own officers was in trouble. I’m more than happy to engage the “community” whenever. I’ve helped more black people hispanic people Asian people white people whatever by doing thorough POLICEWORK without bias to color and locking up who needed to be in jail, making sure my paper was lock tight, phoning the state and dealing with their retarded bullshit, then following through by going to court and trying to not get bitter when the work barely ever results in jail time for some “community members” that really need to be in jail.
True policemen and women police without regard to color, and do the job fairly and consistently no matter what color the offenders are. It may be coincidence that 80% of the violent crime can be attributed to one demographic, who also represent that figure out of proportion to their representation in the community as a whole. If you really want to do some good sarge, identify why this anomaly is occurring. I would be willing to bet that an explanation as simple as skin pigmentation of the police department or the community is not the cause of this issue. Hence, why you cannot are the world through the lens of color first, everything else second and expect to be an effective police officer, no matter which community you serve.
“I know a good, perfectly normal kid who failed the psych earlier this year. Hes as solid as they come, and has wanted to be the police since childhood. Has a four year degree in criminal justice from Western. What's his problem??? The only thing I can figure is that he is white. So he went for the 2nd chance psych evaluation over two months ago and hasn't heard anything since. Now it all makes sense.”
Another worthless degree. Advise him to go to Law School or get his CPA and go the Fed route.
No perfectly normal kid would waste his time trying to get hired by CPD
LOL you did butt wipe
Nobody with a brain in their head wants to be a police officer! Cheating on tests, code of silence, civilians that hate you and goofs attacking and assassinating officers. This is what you get, stupid goofy people. The citizens can blame themselves too! We need to elect better officials who are corrupt and corrupt everything they touch.
Dan Herbert handled the lawsuit against Ladner and did a horrible job. He was too i interested intheVan Dykje case and didn't prepare, he has an awful win loss record. Might be good to use for a real estate closing. My relative is doing good in the burbs.
Not only that, he got paid upfront and had little urge to win. He required a retainer upfront from each person in the class-action, and also required 1/3 of their first years salary if he won. I've never before heard of both! The required retainer indicated he had little confidence in a positive outcome.
Retired now, but my four sons have been told, don't even try to get on the job. The Psych portion of the process would eliminate their changes without a doubt. Two are Army Rangers, one is Airborne 82nd, and the other is a Marine Sniper. All served in Afghanistan or Iraqi. Fuck this Mayor and the Department, my sons are doing very well, and I'm glad they are not on this bullshit police department. Lastly, they all have their concealed carry and have taken the time to learn when and not to use deadly force.
All four turned out well, people I'm blessed. Stay Fetal and safe, this City, the CPD, is not worth it.
12/12/2017 11:23:00 AM
And when they are home and looking for a job, just have them pick one off the tree in the backyard because good paying jobs with benefits are so plentiful, they are growing on trees. You might want to think twice.
I've already heard of at least 2 second chancers getting into the upcoming Jan 2018 academy so I think the city is slowly releasing results.
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