No Swiping?
And the rumor mill erupts:
- swiping delayed indefinitely;
- swiping done;
- swiping can't account for court hours;
- swiping can't track about 80 different starting times and a dozen day off groups, combining for about 1,000 different combinations;
- Vanecko Swiping Incorporated is bankrupt;
- swiping exposes the city to actually having to make pension contributions based on hours worked;
- swiping civilians filed a grievance;
- swiping can't differentiate between hourly employees and salaried employees;
- too many bosses' side pieces would get docked for the regular "nooner;"
- tact teams threatened to go back to the watches en masse
Once again, untold hundreds of thousands of dollars, probably a few million (all unrecoverable from some connected crooked contract) spent on a system that was never going to work as envisioned....and was outlined here in numerous discussions.
Labels: department issues, rumors
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
121 Comments:
Swipe this...
No it’s still here they are just working on getting it tied to payroll and are going to roll it out at once because the pilot programs have them enough info already. Not a huge success but in 2019 it will be rolled out with the connection to payroll
Or swiping discontinued because Rahm and the brass noticed a complete work shutdown in the pilot districts and saw the writing on the wall for election season.
Either way I don’t think we should be broadcasting this .........better to let it secretly die then be the front page headline for all of us !!!!!!!!
So It worked for those who got the contract because they were swiping money.
They know all of this already from all of the other city departments. It is simply a money grab for some donor, just like “share spotter” is, or all of the latest software for (fill in the blank) that they will use for three years, elect not to do the maintenance, and then some other jamoke will come in to head the (fill in the blank) department and make changes, rendering the most recent ones more obsolete or just downright useless.
That’s what happens when you have the people Rahm hires to lead (fill in the blank) department. More strokes from outside of Chicago who learn everything from books, but have no common sense (take a look at our traffic and roads).
Paul Vallas for Mayor.
Its Miller Time!
Did someone fart or was that just a big sigh of relief coming from the Tact Office?!
They've been trying to implement the electronic swiping for 20 or so years.. It's never worked because of the reasons stated..What's that definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.. Kinda reminds me of my old partner..He got married and divorced 3 times..
19P, we'll re-visit this in 3-4 years.
If Vanecko is involved then it didn't matter if it worked or not. The only thing that mattered was he and his family got paid. Just like the $400 million that was supposed to be used for the underground sewer system.
Van-Ecko Swiping.......
We fly by night so you don't have to, have to, have to
Swiper no swiping, Swiper no swiping... 9.5 you suck ass.
Vanecko: Pentagon security and accountability
at a Radio Shack price. We've installed thousands
of systems across America to track and document
your problem employees so you don't have to.
Setting the bar in swiping technology since 1987.
Gas pump credit card number skimmers are more reliable
1950s supermarket electric eye technology at 2020 prices
It was a CLUSTERFUCK from the very beginning!
Swiping = NO ACTIVITY!
heard from a good source that it is delayed for now but is inevitable - coming soon..(unless Rahm loses election then who knows)
So no mention of the total proactive morale killer?
Cue the Jaws music:
Vanecko is related to.....Richard M. Daley.
If you're gonna rob a city, you wear a suit.
The Mob protection racket......
Your employees are stealing from you....
Coming in late, leaving early, taking too long
on breaks and lunches, excessive bathroom breaks....
For a modest price, we can identify the bad apples,
boost your bottom line, restore law and order, put the
Fear of God into them.....
Vanecko Swiping: where technology insures accountability
(But who is checking on us? That's our con. You trusted us.)
Some secret political corruption unit from Homan Square arrest the Congressional Aide to Luis Gutierrez for stealing throusands in a retail theft scam. After the political forces got together, it was downgraded to a mister meaner. ASA’s wanted him RWOC but some CPD boss stepped up. Must be nice to be connected.
Follow the money$.
Well all you need to do is FOIA the past investigations by the city and CPD.
Theses IAD and IG investigations show the reasons for the past timekeeping system not to function correctly.
Yes the CPD has tried this swiping thing before. And the department charged Several department members with allegations.
Not just blue shirts but a few high ranking supervisors along with City hall managers.
Only to have cases thrown out. Since the investigations could not prove who was at fault for the failure of the timekeeping system.
Simply a computerized system does all the things you want it to do but it also proves many other things you do not want recorded.
Sorta like body cameras. Just with more twists?
It's the computer age and you are telling me a program cannot be written that would solve the problems? Maybe some of the inside police could use a notebook and a pencil and keep track but then they would have to do it while driving home early.
All this in the age of computers .
You should add house cats leave early never work an entire shift.
The rumor I heard was that all worked hours were pensionable.
From day one, almost 20 years ago, the vendor of this system has been made aware of this systems flaws and shortcomings. Timekeepers have spent more time processing swipe correction forms on this "automated" system than they did when they manually prepared timesheets. And then after the scanners were all installed in all the citywide locations, the original vendor went out of business and a third party vendor came in to service the readers. Almost as screwed up as the parking meter fiasco.
They installed the machines in ‘92, but never implemented the system for the exact same reason.
I can't even fathom that whom ever thought this lame brain scheme of swiping would work for the CPD. The STOOOOPIDITY of it all.....
Swiper no swiping!
Good Ridence !!
Agreed!! Swiping would be bad for TACT Teams due to their late starts, LONG breakfast and lunch sessions,
one BS Arrest, and early duck out the door. Ha!
You will only have to swipe out when on overtime.
Anonymous said...
They know all of this already from all of the other city departments. It is simply a money grab for some donor, just like “share spotter” is, or all of the latest software for (fill in the blank) that they will use for three years, elect not to do the maintenance, and then some other jamoke will come in to head the (fill in the blank) department and make changes, rendering the most recent ones more obsolete or just downright useless.
That’s what happens when you have the people Rahm hires to lead (fill in the blank) department. More strokes from outside of Chicago who learn everything from books, but have no common sense (take a look at our traffic and roads).
Paul Vallas for Mayor.
5/04/2018 12:34:00 AM
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You talk about people from outside Chicago running city departments. Daley did the same crap. Daley perfected privatization. Vallas is Daley's guy, always has been.
If you want more of what Daley did to this city then you can vote for Vallas.
private sector swiping works just fine.
what seems to be the problem?
swipe
enter job code
press enter
it will let you re enter a job code if you fuck it up
stash the polski guy® has a full line of time keeping solutions
fuck you vanecko
It was working ok here in 19. Don’t know about other places though.
How about a thread on the absurdity of the Supt calling people who applied to take the exam?
I hope they fix before I retire in a year and 6mo..
What a freaken JOKE !!!!
Some secret political corruption unit from Homan Square arrest the Congressional Aide to Luis Gutierrez for stealing throusands in a retail theft scam. After the political forces got together, it was downgraded to a mister meaner. ASA’s wanted him RWOC but some CPD boss stepped up. Must be nice to be connected.
^^^^^^^^
That boss just had a brick put on him/her. He/She will never be promoted again. Some people are untouchable, accept it. Reccord(TVB), Wheezee's son(TVB), Congressman's Aide(Theft), Jugghaid's kid, Rahm's kid(Drugs), etc, just a few examples, those are individuals who are UNTOUCHABLE. Ambassador status bitches!
Signed,
"Mister Meaner"
How are the Kronos machines working out?
Another example of a tremendous waste of taxpayers money
Someone must have placed there chewed bubble yum into the internal swipper
Hate to say I told ya so...but I fucking told ya so. Now as Rodney Dangerfield once said..."LET'S DANCE!!!!!!"
https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2018/05/illinois-talk-about-hidden-debt-bomb.html
Been on the job since 90, seen at least 2 maybe 3 attempts at a swiping system. Usually fail because the City NEVER pays, but also our job doesn't lend itself to being like a factory job. We aren't making widgets!
Who cares? Have the Gold Stars write the entire department up for not swiping. Who gives a shit. You can't lower morale more than it is already. Besides let us all serve our suspension time all together, no cops will come to work for a day . great idea! Bring it on, no one cares anymore with the big brother body cameras, in-car cameras, ISR's, ACLU receipts to give gang bangers, OBR's, TRR's. Criminals don't spend more than a few hours in custody and just get probation or supervision, rapists, robbers, no big deal, the worse of the worse, are all golden to the liberals, but the big bad policeman who doesn't swipe is the big bad wolf. Man, this world is simply backwards!
WHO CARES, don't swipe out and have the department suspend the whole department not giving anyone police service for a few days because they can spend a little extra time with their family or a Wisconsin dells trip. Bring it on baby, our morale is already at lowest levels in a decades, no one cares about swiping. No one cares much anymore: the corrupt city, hateful lying media ,and the thief "everything is racial and inequality argument" politicians made us all this way, like it or not.
Write us up and suspend us, NO ONE CARES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! with the exception of PPO's
Hell, just send me to 3-1-1 Call back, and I'll answer phone calls in my pajamas for a few years never getting stressed out sitting at a comfortable chair.And I'll receive the same exact pay while you bust your ass while getting jammed up left and right on a beat car.
MORALE IS LOWEST LEVEL EVER, ................ Yes, lets swipe kids YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY YAY
So the city hires a connected "consulting" firm with an estimated 3 employees and a total of $1.3 million in annual sales to design and deliver a complex time keeping system and it isn't going smoothly? What a surprise.
This it what happens when the shity buys the hardware then decides to do the software in-house.
Wait til they want Detectives to swipe ... goodbye any clearances
Anonymous said...
Some secret political corruption unit from Homan Square arrest the Congressional Aide to Luis Gutierrez for stealing throusands in a retail theft scam. After the political forces got together, it was downgraded to a mister meaner. ASA’s wanted him RWOC but some CPD boss stepped up. Must be nice to be connected.
Heard he was locked up at work and the coworkers were trying to use the race card.
All of these theories are hilarious. So what everyone is saying is that every other major department in the country swipes. So if you think that it cant work you're an idiot. His is being shelved until fall or maybe until the election. This is a morale killer and Rahm and ed know it.
It never was meant to benefit the Police in any way. It was about enriching individuals furthering the war on police.
It's about making the Police look bad and screwing taxpayers out of more dollars.
It's the communist democrat way.
J.J.
Madness Machines
Everything I've read mentioned is true. That being said the CPD brass never wanted this. They have told 9.5 time and time again it won't work and that working officers will quit on them. I'm a Sgt, how am I supposed to reward good work without being able to taking care of the workers????? Clout rules promotions and units. Giving a worker a duck is the most appreciated thing I can do. TACT, Gang, SAT, etc, and etc is finsihed without ducks. The city wants those units regardless of what anybody says. They need the power to move people around. Should all officers be on just 1st, 2nd, and 3rd watch in districts the city would be screwed!!!
do some of the swiping i.d. cards (for the special folks) come with an "early duck" button?
8,9,10,12 hour days?
Day off groups?
Change of starting time and details?
Take home vehicle with strange starting time?
Court swiping while on clock working days?
Working over 24 hours on murders???? Then being required to burn time next day for regular shift?
CMON Special you got all those merits with master degrees in criminal justice figure it out!!!
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Some secret political corruption unit from Homan Square arrest the Congressional Aide to Luis Gutierrez for stealing throusands in a retail theft scam. After the political forces got together, it was downgraded to a mister meaner. ASA’s wanted him RWOC but some CPD boss stepped up. Must be nice to be connected.
5/04/2018 04:49:00 AM
Do tell. Are you saying that someone used thier position of authority to influence a outcome of a violation of our criminal statute? If a unconnected PO did that, he would be taking some days at the very least.
ANybody know the outcome of LIL LOUiS GUITERZ staff person who was caught up stealing some serious amounts of items???
Someone at HQ totally skipped the AREA detectives to investigate this and had a clouted secret unit handle the case.
Why do exempts think that everyone onboard for clouted getting a pass?
Kinda reminds me of a dirty mattress being tossed by Detectives behind the AREA and the excuse was they were being helpful.
What is the definition of INSANITY????????????????
The rumor I heard was that all worked hours were pensionable.
5/04/2018 05:56:00 AM
You are correct sir, and that would be lovely for us but not the cities bottom line.
Don’t get too happy. It’s only delayed because they are tying computer systems together to interact with payroll which is not a good thing. It’s actually a bad thing because with getting it tied to payroll it will be rolled out quicker. Early to mid 2019 I am told the whole system will roll out.
The hidden inside connected people that work 5 hours wont put up with it.
Some secret political corruption unit from Homan Square arrest the Congressional Aide to Luis Gutierrez for stealing throusands in a retail theft scam. After the political forces got together, it was downgraded to a mister meaner. ASA’s wanted him RWOC but some CPD boss stepped up. Must be nice to be connected.
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Are you for real? Mr. Meaner. That’s on par with the idiot that put Row Call in his TFS reports.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Some secret political corruption unit from Homan Square arrest the Congressional Aide to Luis Gutierrez for stealing throusands in a retail theft scam. After the political forces got together, it was downgraded to a mister meaner. ASA’s wanted him RWOC but some CPD boss stepped up. Must be nice to be connected.
5/04/2018 04:49:00 AM
When? Where? Who?
Was that the same vender, Kronos, that the board of ed used? I don’t know if they ever got their system working right?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Some secret political corruption unit from Homan Square arrest the Congressional Aide to Luis Gutierrez for stealing throusands in a retail theft scam. After the political forces got together, it was downgraded to a mister meaner. ASA’s wanted him RWOC but some CPD boss stepped up. Must be nice to be connected.
5/04/2018 04:49:00 A
Assistant state’s attorney leaves abruptly
Top Foxx deputy says he achieved final goal with murder conviction
By Megan CrepeauChicago Tribune
Cook County State’s Attorney Kim Foxx’s top deputy left his position abruptly this week after nearly a year and a half overseeing day-to-day operations at the prosecutor’s office.
Eric Sussman’s last day as first assistant state’s attorney was Wednesday, he confirmed to the Tribune. He had been Foxx’s second-in-command since she took office in December 2016.
“Eric was instrumental in helping my transition into office and establishing and implementing our priorities,” Foxx wrote in a statement Thursday thanking him for his efforts.
Sussman, a former federal prosecutor, said he never intended to stay in the high-stress post long. He will be taking the summer to consider his next career move, he said.
“I wanted to make a difference, I wanted to make changes, work on bond reform (and) conviction integrity,” he told the Tribune.
Sussman said he accomplished his last goal when he joined in the prosecution of a murder case that wrapped up Tuesday at the courthouse in suburban Markham.
“(The defendant) was convicted, so I kind of felt like it was as good a time as any to kind of make a transition,” he said.
Sussman was the office’s point person at the Leighton Criminal Court Building in allegedly wrongful conviction cases from years earlier. In two cases last year in which Chicago police had initially refused to testify, citing their Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination, Sussman told judges the office was forced to drop charges despite its continued belief in the defendants’ guilt.
Perhaps most memorably, he argued forcefully last year that a judge acted illegally in keeping a pregnant woman in jail for more than a month last summer after she was picked up for a probation violation. Sussman argued so aggressively that Judge Nicholas Ford threatened him with contempt of court.
Sussman was succeeded as top deputy by Joe Magats, a 28-year veteran of the office who most recently was head of its Criminal Prosecutions Bureau. Risa Lanier succeeds Magats, becoming the first African-American to lead that bureau, according to a spokesman for the office.
mcrepeau@chicagotribune.com
Twitter @crepeau
They tried this before and were told about the difficulties tracking starting and ending times and lunch for a job as unique as police officer. They were shown this in no uncertain and proven terms that the system won't work as constructed. The system could be modified if you get rid of certain parameters like starting 7 minutes early or leaving more than 7 minutes late. It could be like an a & a sheet where there is an assumed time unless it is changed, but Cit won't here of it. Millions wasted, again
I said it before...
"Swiper! No Swiping!"
(apologies to Dora: The Explorer)
Why not just tie swiping for when you go into overtime with a late arrest or an investigation. Therefore these units that abused the overtime work hour for hour
I see some one else gets “stuck “ watching Dora the Explorer. Swiped the monkey is the best character!
Should be Swiper the monkey. Damn auto correction
This city is run by retards who don't know how to keep track of their employees time or behavior. Swiping in and out does not require rocket science just simple math which most of these idiots don't possess.
No swiping, no extra coppers rahm the liar caught up again:
Chicago has fewer beat cops despite police hiring surge, records show
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/fewer-street-cops-in-chicago-more-than-year-into-rahm-emanuel-hiring-surge-the-watchdogs/
But the number of rank-and-file officers assigned to police districts across Chicago has dropped in the 17 months since Emanuel’s announcement, the Sun-Times found.
Typical rahm lies, bullies, cheats, and yet he has millions in campaign cash! how many people does he pay off? How can this lying cheat keep showing his pathetic face? He will go down as the worst mayor in history,hoping beyond hope the feeds finally indict him and tears through the corruption and drags toni,tommy,kimmy along for the ride! Save a seat for anna rahms city clerk girl who is involved in the criminal ID program using millions of taxpayers dollars to assist criminals in their enterprises!
Yea rahm you slapped police officers hard,and taking away police retirees health care and lying about the thug high on drugs laquan video, then giving that scumbags family multi-millions in tax dollars to be quiet until your ass took that seat again! Hillary lies,Bill lies, and even billy daley told you to put on your "big boy pants" but maybe you would rather wear that wedding dress and sashay like a ballerina across the city!
You mayor have bullied so many,and yet you continue on, the people have had enough, please make it easy just resign now,hang your little head and don't go away mad just go away quickly!
But NYPD swipes.
Another great plan from the abstract thinkers.
As a Civilian with no dog in this fight I have a couple of simple questions.A quick search revealed that in all of the other Major Municipalities Overtime is pensionable.Why not here in Chicago?Fedral Labor Law is pretty clear on the matter regarding Municipal Employees "CLOCKING IN AND OUT"as a condition of employement,it mandates pensionable overtime.Has your union begun negotiation or litigation on this matter?
Ah the ghost of Kronos past.
Exempts want the ability for administrative overriding the system.
Watch secretaries and timekeepers will be overwhelmed and may have to stay a full 8.5.
General house mouse accountability isn’t feasible.
It’s back to the vendor/donor drawing board and another expensive commissioned study.
Here’s a cost saving idea:
Have everybody line up in the hallway and issue work tokens.
DSS collects them at the end of the tour.
Never been a problem for coal mine workers of West Virginia.
Anonymous said...
It was working ok here in 19. Don’t know about other places though.
5/04/2018 06:34:00 AM
Sounds like 019 cant even screw up properly.
Retired in 2006 and they were trying to start this thing then. Who got the contract on this circus? Follow the money.
You talk about people from outside Chicago running city departments. Daley did the same crap. Daley perfected privatization. Vallas is Daley's guy, always has been.
If you want more of what Daley did to this city then you can vote for Vallas.
5/04/2018 06:32:00 AM
A vote for anyone else is a vote for Rahm, you fucking imbecile.
Actually downstate pensions are NOT eligable for a bump from OT. U of IPD pensions goes on the highest 5 yrs OT included.
Has your union begun negotiation or litigation on this matter?
5/04/2018 05:15:00 PM
The FOP would have credibility arguing for pensionable overtime if it wasn't complicit in making the pension fund insolvent.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I see some one else gets “stuck “ watching Dora the Explorer. Swiped the monkey is the best character!
Swiper is a Fox... not a monkey... *sigh* I know waaaaaay too much about this cartoon. Still, it's vastly more interesting to watch with my kids than the shit out on the street.
Mister Meaner??? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahah oh u kill me...
This should be its own post. News says not enough black applicants taking the police exam. So today they had cops calling the applicants to remind them to show up for the test. Wtf is wrong with this Dept. And they had light-foot and a host of black aldermen saying how black applicants are at a disadvantage. Um. How is this unfair ; sign up (which is free now - I paid $25), take a remedial test of reading and writing - pass a background check - take a drug test - and pass a psysical ? If you have to be reminded to show up - you’re not what we’re lookmg for. - they are encouringing a future list of medical abusers Disgusting what’s going on.
Anonymous said...
All of these theories are hilarious. So what everyone is saying is that every other major department in the country swipes. So if you think that it cant work you're an idiot. His is being shelved until fall or maybe until the election. This is a morale killer and Rahm and ed know it.
5/04/2018 08:48:00 AM
Most other depts don’t have all these units, spots, different start times etc. This dept is such a clusterfuck it would take a NASA computer to be able to keep track of it all.
I'm a MEABF member and our pension is set up the same way. State constution law I suppose.
Anonymous said...
Wait til they want Detectives to swipe ... goodbye any clearances
5/04/2018 08:29:00 AM
You mean with what a 16% clearance rate it will get worse gtfoh!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It was working ok here in 19. Don’t know about other places though.
5/04/2018 06:34:00 AM
dumbass
Anonymous Anonymous said...
All of these theories are hilarious. So what everyone is saying is that every other major department in the country swipes. So if you think that it cant work you're an idiot. His is being shelved until fall or maybe until the election. This is a morale killer and Rahm and ed know it.
5/04/2018 08:48:00 AM
Are u looking in the mirror, hardly any MAJOR police department swipes
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The rumor I heard was that all worked hours were pensionable.
5/04/2018 05:56:00 AM
You are correct sir, and that would be lovely for us but not the cities bottom line.
Would bankrupt the city. Some guys are getting paid OT equal to their salaries and u know they are not putting in the time. Administration sgts never leaving the office and making 8 hrs a day OT.
5/04/2018 02:18:00 PM
Anonymous Mayo-elect Gari McCartney said...
But NYPD swipes.
But CPD can’t It’s just magic and a secret special program that NYPD uses and CPD cant
This is just a test:
Try a LINK card swipe, or for that matter,
a credit card sized refrigerator magnet from a
pizza place. Or a supermarket loyality card.
Anything with a magnetic strip or lightly magnetic
itself. I bet the system responds to the card and
grants you entry or egress. How it processes that
info, who the hell knows?
I would use these false positive responses as a
basis for a lawsuit against the company.
Second to last one made me spit up my fruit loops.
Yes I eat fruit loops at 0029 hrs.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Don’t get too happy. It’s only delayed because they are tying computer systems together to interact with payroll which is not a good thing. It’s actually a bad thing because with getting it tied to payroll it will be rolled out quicker. Early to mid 2019 I am told the whole system will roll out.
5/04/2018 10:02:00 AM
_________________________
I don't tend to complain about the CPD much, but Come the Heck on.
98% of the rest of the City Departments Swipe in/out for work every day. OT? Fill out a CATA Edit, submit it to your supervisor and clock out when you leave. OT Shift? Swipe In/Out And do a CATA edit for the choice of Cash or Comp Time.
And more importantly, Payroll is discoverable under FOIA. So the Early ducks can make the Paper.
Pus tying it into the Bio-Metric Time Clocks prevents the 'privileged' from swiping other people in and out to cover their early ducks or late starts. And edits to the time cards with direct access to the software is Trackable via a specific log in ID and Password.
Fair Days work for a Fair Days pay.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It was a CLUSTERFUCK from the very beginning!
Swiping = NO ACTIVITY!
5/04/2018 02:48:00 AM
While it may have been TARFU from the Beginning, we are talking about accountability for Time and Pay.
How many times here do people out right Bitch about this or that side piece or house mouse ducking early?
And the City has a Super Swipe program for City Employees that don't work in a Specific location so they can swipe at Any Time Clock at any accessible City Building, like 016 or a Fire Station or a Library or other...
Don’t get too happy. It’s only delayed because they are tying computer systems together to interact with payroll which is not a good thing. It’s actually a bad thing because with getting it tied to payroll it will be rolled out quicker. Early to mid 2019 I am told the whole system will roll out.
5/04/2018 10:02:00 AM
By delaying rollout it will happen quicker? By making it more integrated (difficult) they made it easier? Troll somewhere else.
As a Civilian with no dog in this fight I have a couple of simple questions.A quick search revealed that in all of the other Major Municipalities Overtime is pensionable.Why not here in Chicago?Fedral Labor Law is pretty clear on the matter regarding Municipal Employees "CLOCKING IN AND OUT"as a condition of employement,it mandates pensionable overtime.Has your union begun negotiation or litigation on this matter?
Duh,
We know that...Its one of the reasons the weasel is backing down. Tiny Dancer doesn't want to fork out millions more to the pensions.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
As a Civilian with no dog in this fight I have a couple of simple questions.A quick search revealed that in all of the other Major Municipalities Overtime is pensionable.Why not here in Chicago?Fedral Labor Law is pretty clear on the matter regarding Municipal Employees "CLOCKING IN AND OUT"as a condition of employement,it mandates pensionable overtime.Has your union begun negotiation or litigation on this matter?
What you describe is “the” dog in this fight.
those are the family of ron huberman swipe machines
of course only the city of shitcago would buy them
The city now have Pandoria's box open. The city got cute - now the FOP and the PB&PA need to step it up.
Would bankrupt the city. Some guys are getting paid OT equal to their salaries and u know they are not putting in the time. Administration sgts never leaving the office and making 8 hrs a day OT.
5/04/2018 10:26:00 PM
Yes, you are right about this, time theft goes on and has always gone on. But, I can tell you for a fact, that the city has prosecuted, administratively, cases of time theft in the past and can do it again if they choose to do so. It is a firing offense and any arbitrator will uphold this in a grievance hearing. This is theft of time which equates to theft of money and you can be arrested if intent is shown.
They will have it up and running soon, they first need to complete the integration with the City ID/Ventra Card....
Most other City jobs DO NOT swipe in and out. They swipe in.
I said it from day one on the job, 23 years ago. I know the kronos system and others like it. IT WILL NEVER WORK!!!! Not for this department.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It was working ok here in 19. Don’t know about other places though.
Signed Captain Kane
Duh,
We know that...Its one of the reasons the weasel is backing down. Tiny Dancer doesn't want to fork out millions more to the pensions.
5/05/2018 04:43:00 AM
It has nothing to do with pensions, never did. If overtime was pensionable, it would have been enforced long before swiping
The city now have Pandoria's box open. The city got cute - now the FOP and the PB&PA need to step it up.
5/05/2018 09:11:00 AM
Step it up? More likely they'll step on their collective dicks. FLOP and PB&J need to hire America's Mayo Rudy.
What moron said it’s working in 019? Even the Cmdr said in comcrap that it is a failure as morale was even lower and 019 is now the lowest ticket numbers in the city.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It was working ok here in 19. Don’t know about other places though.
Signed Captain Kane
And by the way, I'm still swiping in to show my support and be a leader. Dont forget about those car and body cams.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Don’t get too happy. It’s only delayed because they are tying computer systems together to interact with payroll which is not a good thing. It’s actually a bad thing because with getting it tied to payroll it will be rolled out quicker. Early to mid 2019 I am told the whole system will roll out.
Who told you this? Mayor Twerk over lunch?
If you photo copy the back of the ID. and place the copy on a bullshit card it works!!!!! Cooter said
Forget swiping.
If you want a system that really works try this.........
Retirement!
Now grant it, it's a 7 day a week/365 day a year job but the benefits make it worth it.
Sleep in or get up early.
Take long, leisurely lunches.
Get all the holidays off, with pay!
Or cut the day short by taking a nice long nap!
Hell, it's like working in the front office!
AND if you were lucky enough to retire before 01 JUN 17 you received free health insurance. It's almost like having clout! Now I understand that benefit could (probably) will be pulled at some future date but hell, nothing last forever. Just ask any Commanders secretary or hair gel on TACT!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Wait til they want Detectives to swipe ... goodbye any clearances
5/04/2018 08:29:00 AM
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What clearances?
Listen detective, you may have to actually work every minute you get paid for. And so should everyone else. CPD is the only police department where people regularly get “early ducks” and are paid for time they are not at work. And people wonder about the shortage of police.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Wait til they want Detectives to swipe ... goodbye any clearances
And your point is? They will make more clearances if they don’t spend a full tour. Or they won’t do their job and clear cases if they don’t get an early out?
Most other depts don’t have all these units, spots, different start times etc. This dept is such a clusterfuck it would take a NASA computer to be able to keep track of it all.
5/04/2018 09:28:00 PM
Did you know that the 8088 which formed the basis for the IBM PC, had eight times more memory than Apollo’s Guidance Computer (16k, vs the Apollo’s 2k). The IBM PC XT ran at a dizzying clock speed of 4.077MHz. The Apollo’s Guidance Computer was a snail-like 1.024 MHz in comparison.
Maybe today's NASA computer, but certainly not the one that landed us on the moon. Think about that for a minute..........238000 miles to the moon, or 12000 employees. Which computer do you trust?
The computing requirements for tracking 12,000 police officers or 24,000 police officers are a joke. The only reason they're not swiping in or out is %50 corruption, %50 incompetence. I'm sure there's a management rebellion going on.
another waste of money
GPS tracking system , sgt hide in 6 , log beat cars from PDT , shop outside district
nobody knows , nobody cares
will they dock , discipline the lazy police that arrive 10-15 minutes late everyday
why is 019 still swiping in & out if everyone else was put on hold? anyone file a grievance?
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