COPA Headhunting
Looking for anything even remotely questionable to hang some scalps on their wall - something we predicted a long time ago - to promote themselves as "independent" and "tough on cops:"
- Video released Tuesday shows an off-duty Chicago police sergeant opening fire from his vehicle and wounding an apparently unarmed man as he stood on a sidewalk in front of a home in the Morgan Park neighborhood on the Far South Side.
The Civilian Office of Police Accountability released police dashboard camera, home surveillance video and police reports more than a year after Ricardo “Ricky” Hayes, then 18, was shot in the arm and chest in the 11100 block of South Hermosa Avenue.
You'll notice the dates and wonder why videos were held for over 14 months instead of the now-customary 60 days. Don't expect that to be answered any time soon.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
97 Comments:
I can’t wait for new management to come in with the new Mayor. This job really sucks!
Sorry. But that was stupid of the sergeant to even stop him. It was even more stupid to shoot at him. Can't defend this idiot
Tribune says: "COPA, which investigates shootings involving Chicago police officers, typically must release video of use-of-force incidents within 60 days, but the agency said there was a delay while it researched whether making the videos public would violate laws regarding the release of information related to wards of the state."
Question, Laquan Macdonald, was a ward of the state? Why didn't COPA find out about the rules regarding releasing videos then???? They waited till 2017 to research it AGAIN? Dumb people.
Met this Sgt at Homan square two years ago. Definitely something wrong with this man. Extremely arrogant and plain rude. Just by his nasty attitude and watching the video I believe he was wrong. The 022nd district is 2 mins from the shooting. He easily could of called in a suspicious person instead of acting cocky and shooting this victim.
If he does get convicted of agg battery I will be shocked. Unless it is life and death, call it in & let the on duty cops handle minor incidents!
Isn’t the sgt a merit Lt now ?...
Supposedly, they said it took so long because they weren't sure about the laws of releasing video footage since the kid that got shot was a (big surprise!) ward of the state. I'm sure they figured it out a lot more quickly then over a year though. As far as the Sgt goes it's hard for me to garner much sympathy for someone I don't know that should have gotten the memo even back then not to be playing Johnny Super-Hero off duty. While I don't know what led up to the shooting it definitely looks bad. Was he a merit Sgt?
Let’s pick a better case to hang our hat on.
This is not the fight to fight.
Looking at the video, this cop appears to do a drive-by shooting, off duty in his personal car, on an unarmed handicapped kid.
Not sure wtf he was thinking, but good riddance.
THAT mope should be charged, and NOT JVD.
Lies, lies, and more lies by Muhammed and a cover up involved here. It has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that Muhammed is tied in very close with Farrakhan, I'm sure. Muhammed repeatedly told supervisors and investigators on scene that he was charged and attacked by the teen he later shot. Muhammed stated it all happened as he approached the teen. Yet, when investigators and supervisors found all the shell casings inside Muhammed's car, he requested his attorney. Was he stripped like ANY other officer would be? Nope. Was he charged criminally like any other officer would be? Nope. He was hidden in Barb West's office as an Admin Sergeant with full police powers for over a year now - after lying about shooting a lost, mentally challenged kid! West and Johnson should be ashamed of themselves - especially because these videos exist! Now the video comes out for the public to see and what happens? Still nothing! It must be really nice to have have the right connections when everyone else is getting stripped for much, much, much lesser transgressions... What do we call it in Cook County when the police shoot someone? Oh yeah, Aggravated Battery!! We convict the officer and send him to jail, right? And this kid was completely unarmed... Different rules for different people. Don't EVER forget that.
Oregon City Ordered to Pay Officer Fired for Controversial Facebook Posts
The arbitrator—Portland-based attorney Eric Lindauer—concluded that Newberry's firing in February 2017 was justified. But he also ruled that the city should bear some financial burden because Newberry's social media use was common knowledge in the police department, but it did nothing to address the behavior until it was reported by the media in July 2016, according to OregonLive.com.
http://www.policemag.com/channel/patrol/news/2018/10/15/oregon-city-ordered-to-pay-officer-fired-for-controversial-facebook-posts.aspx
They did answer why it took so long to release. He was considered a juvenile due to his disability. My only question is is this black sgt going to face charges for shooting this unarmed black kid or does that only happen when it involves a lighter pigmentation police officer?
So why isn't the BLM and ACLU along with Fr Phoney and all the other Misfits hootin and hollering about this shooting??? Esp since the blk teen was mentally challenged and UNARMED? Talk about double standards...Such an obvious cover-up and not 1 person gets charged or fired? This asshole SGT needs to be behind bars ASAP!!! Other Gold Stars need to be charged as well for covering it up.
The Sgt is a clout baby, he got dumped from a unit into 005 right before the shooting happened.
Chicago brought it upon itself, hosting democrat machine politics.
His clout kept COPA from pushing to have him fired. They try and fire officers who have shot actual criminal offenders but if you have clout they say a suspension is ok. What a joke.
You want to keep being “proactive?” Read some of these police board decisions some 17 years old, and also how they say in some no time limit for discipline:
https://www.cityofchicago.org/city/en/depts/cpb/provdrs/police_discipline.html
Now keep those backward baseball caps ready,and those tight jeans on! Reading these should be taken seriously, your family depends on you, your pension and freedom hangs in the balance! When your child says “daddy I was not even born when this happened why do I have to suffer now?” That is reality the hunt is on, copa has a big budget,and looking for a trophy to hang on their walls don’t jeopardize yourselves or your partner use that head as more than a hat rack for your own good! God bless the police!
Aggravated battery for every shot fired...
Chirp chirp......crickets.....Gee I wonder where all the protesters are? Fr Faker, Jamal, JJ, BLM.....ohhhhhhhh I get in now.......it's only if a white officer shoots a black kid.........unreal.....
White shirts never into trouble. Blue shirt? Going to jail for life.
wheres the video of old 010 commander with his dolly driver now merit sgt partner executing two guys driving away? there was beautiful archdiocese footage. Both got promoted after this bad shoot, fyi.
You have to show you are relevant somehow.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
This is not one to fight for and then be proven wrong. Ask the investigators why they felt pressure on this one. Was it because all the Bosses, guess which ones, showed up on the scene when they usually don’t have to or don’t want to? From what I heard they continued to talk to the involved officer even though they know they should have not said a word to him. Well, bottom line is this stinks really bad like a major fuck up and guess why he’s treated differently. Do they , again guess who, take care of their own.
Da Truth
Ricky Ricardo shot!
Someone gots some splainin to do
I just watched the video. WOW!!
The anti-police rhetoric must be maintained as it is election time.
There will be a holiday lull then pick up aging for city elections.
Not one word by news people that this was a black on black shooting. If it was a white officer it would be on tv 24 hours a day.
Was this Sgt a Police officer or Detective in IAD when Barb West was in charge of Confidential investigations in IAD?
Did this Sgt get his promotion by Merit? Who was his juice?
Is this Sgt now a Lieutenant by Merit promotion? Again who is his juice?
When this shooting occurred Eddie Johnson was defending the Sgt at the morning news conference???
He was not stripped for over a year. So shooting was justified until video proved otherwise?
Barb West took him in as admin Sgt at 35th and Michigan.
Someone is taking care of this tool?
There is a double standard on shootings.
There is a double standard on discipline within Department.
Those who are Protected.......
And the rest of us fools.
The IG of city should be reviewing this.
Independent review of how this shooting and stripping was handled.
COPA has released video which means Sgt. Is responsible for his actions.
But who in their right minds has hidden this Sgt. In HQ. And what took so long to strip him.
Bad Supervision and bad management.
There should be an outside investigation to rule out any cover up.
No protest no social outrage gee a black cop shoots an unarmed handicapped black kid and there’s not a peep from the black community. If he was white they would be tearing down city hall. What a joke
Sgt nut case got dumped out of narcotics because he was crazy.Gets into this shooting right after. perfect example of how CPD passes along psychos and they never get help.
When I first came on this job many years ago I was told to keep my mouth shut and eyes and ears open. I wanted to be the police, not a high priced door shaker. I learned how to be the officer I am today by watching how the working coppers operated. Good coppers have a mean streak and can be ruthless. This is done as a tool for intimidating these fuckheads when you are locking them up. You have to think like a crook to catch crooks. Ops,ipra, copa, whatever they call themselves will never understand this. The only way to experience it would be to strap on a sam brown belt, put a howitzer in the holster, and go lock up some hard core felons committing forcible felonies against our citizens. Walk in someone's shoes before you judge them.
I don't know what led up to the shooting it definitely looks bad. Was he a merit Sgt?
10/17/2018 12:18:00 AM
Yes he’s a merit pick. Eddie Welch nominated him.
So JVD is in prison for shooting an armed offender with a knife and this case wasn't charged? Just asking why?
I’m not suggesting the sergeant should or should not be charged with a crime here. I don’t know the facts. However, I am wondering where all the protesters calling for Kim Foxx’s resignation are. Her predecessor was (falsely) accused of hiding the Laquan McDonald video (she didn’t - Rahm did). As a result, there were mass protests by BLM calling for her resignation and it ultimately resulted in her election defeat. Where are all those George Soros funded concerned citizens now? Why does Foxx escape scrutiny?
WAS THIS OFFICER THE WRONG "SHADE OF BLUE?" IS THAT WHY THERE ARE NO PROTESTS? IS THAT WHY THERE ARE NO REVRUNDS OR POLITICIANS CALLING FOR HIM TO BE BURNED AT THE STAKE?
Lies, lies, and more lies by Muhammed and a cover up involved here. It has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that Muhammed is tied in very close with Farrakhan, I'm sure. Muhammed repeatedly told supervisors and investigators on scene that he was charged and attacked by the teen he later shot. Muhammed stated it all happened as he approached the teen. Yet, when investigators and supervisors found all the shell casings inside Muhammed's car, he requested his attorney. Was he stripped like ANY other officer would be? Nope. Was he charged criminally like any other officer would be? Nope. He was hidden in Barb West's office as an Admin Sergeant with full police powers for over a year now - after lying about shooting a lost, mentally challenged kid! West and Johnson should be ashamed of themselves - especially because these videos exist! Now the video comes out for the public to see and what happens? Still nothing! It must be really nice to have have the right connections when everyone else is getting stripped for much, much, much lesser transgressions... What do we call it in Cook County when the police shoot someone? Oh yeah, Aggravated Battery!! We convict the officer and send him to jail, right? And this kid was completely unarmed... Different rules for different people. Don't EVER forget that.
I saw that and wondered myself why it took so long to release it, and why they are releasing it now?
Perhaps it is because there is an election coming up?
Perhaps liberal journalists want to add fuel to the fire of liberal anti-police political candidates?
I’d agree with many of the previous comments regarding this “supervisor.” He’s one of the more arrogant people I’ve met on this job full of Type A personalities.
I seen the video,he shot the "unarmed" kid from his car!!!! WTF SCC.... i hope you watched the video also....
Another great merit pick !!!!! WTF, seriously.....WTF ?
Look here and you will see what they are looking into:
https://www.chicagocopa.org/data-cases/case-portal/
Then glace here cases from 18 years ago they are digging and digging:
https://www.cityofchicago.org/city/en/depts/cpb/provdrs/police_discipline.html
Think about this, they say the city municipal ordinance allows them to go back as many years as they want to look into "old" cases!
Then here:
https://www.chicagocopa.org/about-copa/our-people/
about 154 people showing not counting how many are hidden.
Then here in your browser go to page 213 2017 they got $7,317,232
2018 $13,289,393
https://www.cityofchicago.org/content/dam/city/depts/obm/supp_info/2018Budget/2018_Budget_Recommendations.pdf
@They almost doubled the budget which means more investigators cooperating with their media counterparts to uncover anything and everything about a copper, so the aggressive nonsense must stop ladies and gentlemen. Have you ever went hunting or watched national geographic? when certain animals see just 1 hunter they are calm, but when multiple hunters are on scene they scurry and quickly,or attack knowing it is them or the animal, we need to realize and see the same vision!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Lies, lies, and more lies by Muhammed and a cover up involved here. It has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that Muhammed is tied in very close with Farrakhan, I'm sure. Muhammed repeatedly told supervisors and investigators on scene that he was charged and attacked by the teen he later shot. Muhammed stated it all happened as he approached the teen. Yet, when investigators and supervisors found all the shell casings inside Muhammed's car, he requested his attorney. Was he stripped like ANY other officer would be? Nope. Was he charged criminally like any other officer would be? Nope. He was hidden in Barb West's office as an Admin Sergeant with full police powers for over a year now - after lying about shooting a lost, mentally challenged kid! West and Johnson should be ashamed of themselves - especially because these videos exist! Now the video comes out for the public to see and what happens? Still nothing! It must be really nice to have have the right connections when everyone else is getting stripped for much, much, much lesser transgressions... What do we call it in Cook County when the police shoot someone? Oh yeah, Aggravated Battery!! We convict the officer and send him to jail, right? And this kid was completely unarmed... Different rules for different people. Don't EVER forget that.
10/17/2018 01:13:00 AM
Different rules different folks, unarmed kid 2 counts aggravated battery and another video withheld is the mayors office involved with this "cover-up?" Any marchers? nope! wonder why what is the missing link?
There are people who believe this officer is mentally unstable. Yet they believe JVD can be exonerated and want to set up funds for him. What is missing here?
Tale of two Sgt's...
M/W Sgt. (on duty) shoots an ARMED offender in 007 and the Sup's response on the incident "Ive got more questions than answers", Sgt is immediately stripped, his name is released within hours by someone in Sup's office. Sgt is investigated by I.A.D. confidential unit back to the start of his career. Sgt is sent straight to the police board to "have his day in court" as the Sup put it to anyone who would listen.
M/B Sgt (off duty) shoots an UNARMED offender in 005 and the Sup's response on the incident "Offender was being elusive & unresponsive", Sgt is stripped but tucked away in Chief BW's office, no personal information is released and the tape is hidden for 14 months along with contradicting on-scene statements by the Sgt. Sgt is not indicted, not investigated by IAD or the Feds, not charged with Agg Bat (x2) or Official Misconduct, not sent to call back and not the subject of harassment by the media or threats to his family.
I worked both cases, I know of what I speak...I'm not advocating for either side just putting out the facts as they were collected. Maybe off duty Sgt KM thought he saw something, maybe not - but on duty JVD thought he saw something too and was crucified by the media and courts. On duty M/W Sgt knew he saw something and was sacrificed by the Department (even though we knew that night the offender had a gun).
Anyone working after the JVD fiasco should read this, read it again, and again, and re-read it again - let it sink in. Anyone still proactively working is just a few seconds away from being unemployed, imprisoned and ruining YOUR life. This department does not play by the rules (especially these days) and definitely does not care about YOU.
Unless you're NOBLE, you're not worthy of Sgt KM's kind of treatment.
Anonymous said...
Let’s pick a better case to hang our hat on.
This is not the fight to fight.
Looking at the video, this cop appears to do a drive-by shooting, off duty in his personal car, on an unarmed handicapped kid.
Not sure wtf he was thinking, but good riddance.
THAT mope should be charged, and NOT JVD.
10/17/2018 12:27:00 AM
Was there not good
....merit Sgt
"...He was hidden in Barb West's office as an Admin Sergeant with full police powers for over a year now ...."
Two sets of rules---not stripped? just reassigned to Admin Duty for Chief who runs Finance, HR....why not?...not charged despite video---maybe like JVD now he will be---maybe he won't....double standard, always has been always will be---if you are connected to people in power you are treated special---easier to get hired, more likely to be promoted or get into a unit, less likely to be disciplined or fired......lucky for him at this moment his peeps be on top.
Why did the family of LaquanMacdonald get the cash when he was a ward of the state and never raised by his family??? Don’tyou Think Social Services should have received the money to help other kids???
The swat scandal is going to bring to light the inept leadership of merit promotions. Lt Lamb, is a double merit hack and now looking for Captain bars, has run the swat team to the ground. A P.O. from swat, PL, was promoted by merit after he sold out his team concerning a safety grievance that the team had filed. This clout heavy P.O., has continued to keep his take home car and swat equipment while going through the Sgt’s class. He has even bragged that he is essential to swat that he won’t be in patrol for very long. He was always a do nothing at the training staff.
The swat scandal will bring to light how the “training sgt” has been a serial domestic abuser, stalker and has harassed police officers of both genders. The Dept has known this for years but his “clout” has covered for this mentally unstable sergeant who continues to abuse copious amounts of steroids. Under his direct supervision, a swat candidate ended up in the hospital, with two black eyes, fractured ribs and a collapsed lung. Just two months ago, this “training sgt” had a “road rage” incident in an unmarked take home vehicle in Lake County. This has been the reason for the delay by Channel 2. Thousands of pages from IAD investigations will show the cover up concerning the mental instability of Chicago’s very own Drew Peterson.
The swat scandal will show how number #2 Sgt JH, made more then 248k in bogus overtime initiatives. OT at SWAT is lucrative and takes precedence over training but does zero to protect the city. Videos of swat officers sleeping in SORT cars, playing on their phones, getting autographs, and being absent from their posts. Wasted money producing little results for the citizens of Chicago.
The swat scandal will compare CPD swat to other major cities as far as capabilities, resources and equipment. In-depth reporting into the Dept covering up gross negligence of HBT jobs to include losing hostages, shooting a hostage and escalating use of force on barricaded subject that could have been resolved if manpower was available. Just this week, the swat team let a grandmother bleed to death after being shot. Swat Lt told the chain of command they were “negotiating.” Truth is there was not enough swat officers on scene to make entry for a hostage rescue. Swat has lost three hostages by letting them bleed to death.
The merit hacks in charge, worry only about the next promotion. Sgt D.P. does not care about making Lt. The rest of the Sergeants keep their mouths shut so they can be promoted. SWAT Sergeants AT, MN, CR, and JH are useless. Future merit hacks that turn a blind eye but are making $$. The training staff is useless and a bunch of ghost payrollers who do the bidding of the merit Lt.
Do not expect much from swat. We suck and are useless.
Release dates are timed for the appropriate audience, season and political issue at hand.
Hollywoods does it all the time.
el’COPRAh is looking for votes on behalf of a couple few candidates.
It’s a very expensive to operate government sponsored political activism office, nothing more.
Posting ads on light posts, it doesn’t get any lower than that.
They’re going full blast without any oversight with Rahm’s blessings in the form of an open budget.
They’ve resorted to insider experts, additional admin staffing, vehicles, equipment and overtime.
Don’t be fooled, permission granted by Special Ed, he wants some heads too for his reformer legacy mantel.
Im told that elCoprah presents Special with three video stills every so often and put a Werther’s butterscotch on the one he should pick for release. Works like a charm.
Stay Fetal.
1st & 16th and save the retainer $$$’s for 29+1.
When a white police officer shoots at but does not hit a fleeing felon (shooting in 004 two years ago, stolen jaguar incident) the superintendent is quoted in the news papers saying “ at this point I have more questions than answers”. When a black police officer shoots at and wounds an unarmed mentally handicapped teen nothing is said. Nothing is questioned. This is outrageous. This race bullshit needs to end. Wrong is wrong and should have nothing to do with race, but apparently in Chicago race means everything. Jvd was guilty of being white. Truth
He's all clout....he's been getting his paycheck for 14 months, if it was someone else, you'd be fucked. With clout you just get an admin job with weekends off. What a joke this department has become. Over promoting incompetent people.
Election season, NO police shooting video's before election. City holds the video's till after the election if possible. It makes the mayor look bad !!!!!!!
Why the fuck is this off duty Sgt following this mentally handicapped boy in his personal vehicle, then opens fire on this boy. This Sgt should be fired. Another law suit coming !!!!
This fuck'n Sgt should be fired period !!!!!!!!!!!
Half of the Sgt's on CPD should NOT even be Sgt's
This sergeant is a fucken GOOF !!!!!!!!!!!!
Looks like 2 counts of Attempted Murder and 2 counts of Aggravated Battery, along with Official Misconduct.
Who is covering up for this Sgt? Is COPA participating in a cover up? This fucking place is upside down. JVD in uniform, on duty shoots a crazed assailant who is armed with a knife, who was committing multiple armed assaults to civilians and police. And JVD is charged criminally. This goofball SGT. off duty, unprovoked commits a drive by shooting and they hide this guy? Will the 005th district celebrate when this Sgt is rightfully charged and convicted?
Is he not being charged for aggravated battery because of the color of his skin? So far I haven’t seen anyone bring that question up. Connected or not, would this be all over the media if it had fit the narrative they want? Why are there no protests by the community? I don’t know all the details but if in fact this Sgt did shoot an unarmed man “off duty” when he should’ve been minding his own business, then tried lying about it let the hammer fall. This incident provides more questions than answers. But the one thing that it does make clear is that if you’re white and the police then you will be judged differently.
“I can’t wait for new management to come in with the new Mayor. This job really sucks!”
Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
so an off duty cop in an unmarked car shoots an autistic child who was singing in the street, with no weapon....do i have my facts straight here? also in the audio, he says he was about to pull a gun on him and was running toward him, did any of you see a gun? so knowing all of this some of you still would like to argue that the cop was justified just like JVD? wtf...
I can’t wait for new management to come in with the new Mayor. This job really sucks!
How about looking forward to retiring? Wtf
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Tribune says: "COPA, which investigates shootings involving Chicago police officers, typically must release video of use-of-force incidents within 60 days, but the agency said there was a delay while it researched whether making the videos public would violate laws regarding the release of information related to wards of the state."
Question, Laquan Macdonald, was a ward of the state? Why didn't COPA find out about the rules regarding releasing videos then???? They waited till 2017 to research it AGAIN? Dumb people.
We wanted the video of LQM release, if not a cold blooded murderer would’ve walked free.
Has anyone noticed that the media is not stating the race of this Sgt. They could not stop saying that Van Dyke was a WHITE police officer so why not give up the sgts race.....ill save them the trouble he is BLACK
What are the young activists going to do now? Oh, that's right - the officer is black!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
We have an officer in 003 first watch who was bit by a person. This person was not arrested even though the person broke the officer's skin on his arm. Why? Officer didn't want the person arrested. Officer said it wasn't a big deal. 19P
99 percent of first watch in 003 are clowns. Everyone’s sucking ass for a tac or 06 spot. Fraternizing with bosses to stay on their start time. Cops, and I use that word lightly, recording and snitching on other cops. The wannabe tactical barbies think their shit don’t stink because they make cigarette and food runs for the LT. Its like high school with guns. Why would anyone charge a mutt with Agg Batt when they can write a couple Parkers and tvbs and sit in the station socializing all night
October SURPRIZE.....
This is incredible! Why has this been hidden for so long??? Could it be he’s politically connected? Typical Chicago way. The connected skate while the average guy get hammered. Very shady.
I find it interesting that all the mainstream media hasn’t once said black Sgt shoots unarmed disabled child. They never left out race when reporting about JVD. What a joke! It’s ok and acceptable when black kills black. Everyone hung JVD out to dry on his own. But not this Sgt who shot an unarmed disabled person while in a covert vehicle. Instead of being sent to 376 chief west found him a nice cushy spot right outside her office not doing anything!!!! Someone made a phone call to take care of him....take care of him shooting and unarmed person. Hmmm. West seems to hide all her trouble children She likes hiding the ones who should be fired.
shocking to see the video with the added information that he hunted him down on his own. Does this show premeditation?
Joke
You mean he was a merit Sgt.? I'm shocked! Shocked I tells ya. I mean, who would have thunk it? I'm beginning to think that this whole merit promotion stuff might not be all that legit.
Hey Kidney Bean, I have more questions than answers.
I’ll rewrite the Slum Times article, The Black Police Sgt. shot the unarmed black autistic youth because he was singing in the street.
This Sergeant is a total goofball. Always run into this guy and he would always say that he is the real deal, the real police. Tell us war stories how he can do want ever he wants and fuck anybody and his team in Narc. Super clout heavy (Carter)and eventually dump from Narc. Should be fired but I bet he won't be and eventually get promoted to Lt as soon as this issue dies down.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
So JVD is in prison for shooting an armed offender with a knife and this case wasn't charged? Just asking why?
10/17/2018 08:33:00 AM
The main difference is this off duty Sgt was black and allegedly in tight with Farrakhan.
Can you say huge double standard??
Will it be ok if white coppers cheer if the Sgt is convicted?
Anonymous KMA A/S Detective said...
Tale of two Sgt's...
M/W Sgt. (on duty) shoots an ARMED offender in 007 and the Sup's response on the incident "Ive got more questions than answers", Sgt is immediately stripped, his name is released within hours by someone in Sup's office. Sgt is investigated by I.A.D. confidential unit back to the start of his career. Sgt is sent straight to the police board to "have his day in court" as the Sup put it to anyone who would listen.
M/B Sgt (off duty) shoots an UNARMED offender in 005 and the Sup's response on the incident "Offender was being elusive & unresponsive", Sgt is stripped but tucked away in Chief BW's office, no personal information is released and the tape is hidden for 14 months along with contradicting on-scene statements by the Sgt. Sgt is not indicted, not investigated by IAD or the Feds, not charged with Agg Bat (x2) or Official Misconduct, not sent to call back and not the subject of harassment by the media or threats to his family.
I worked both cases, I know of what I speak...I'm not advocating for either side just putting out the facts as they were collected. Maybe off duty Sgt KM thought he saw something, maybe not - but on duty JVD thought he saw something too and was crucified by the media and courts. On duty M/W Sgt knew he saw something and was sacrificed by the Department (even though we knew that night the offender had a gun).
Anyone working after the JVD fiasco should read this, read it again, and again, and re-read it again - let it sink in. Anyone still proactively working is just a few seconds away from being unemployed, imprisoned and ruining YOUR life. This department does not play by the rules (especially these days) and definitely does not care about YOU.
Unless you're NOBLE, you're not worthy of Sgt KM's kind of treatment.
10/17/2018 10:15:00 AM
The M/W Sgt(also merit, also for no reason) is also heavy as fuck and more than landed on his feet.
Half of the Sgt's on CPD should NOT even be Sgt's
Neither should half of the P.O’s
Met this Sgt at Homan square two years ago. Definitely something wrong with this man. Extremely arrogant and plain rude. Just by his nasty attitude and watching the video I believe he was wrong. The 022nd district is 2 mins from the shooting. He easily could of called in a suspicious person instead of acting cocky and shooting this victim.
If he does get convicted of agg battery I will be shocked. Unless it is life and death, call it in & let the on duty cops handle minor incidents!
10/17/2018 12:12:00 AM
So let me understand your way of thinking... you are making this guy wrong because he was rude and arrogant to you the first and only time you met him, and from the video, that really shows nothing. Hmmmm sounds a lot like the bullshit jury for JVD. You know nothing else in regards to what actually happened. I’m not saying he’s right and I’m not saying he’s wrong, because I wasn’t there and know nothing about it. This Sgt could be the biggest jagoff ever employed by the Chicago Police Dept, but that has no bearing on if this shooting was justified or not. By your way of thinking I could decide based on your comments you are either new or just a moron.
If theres one thing I miss even less about that shit job its the discipline process, which is even worse then all these jagoff clout Boss's we have and the corrupt promotional system.
Now add all that to the shit pay, no pension, reduced bennies, and the odd chance you could be jailed and/or shot in the head by some savage and why would you young people want to even be on this shit job?
This Muhammed thing isn't an exception. Its typical. Black on black is a "black thing" not a criminal thing and he had clout in his corner. These greasy Politicians need at least to come to understandings with greasy fucks like Farrakhan because the guy can get the suckers to vote a certain way. Or stop them from voting.
Or stop them from voting and start them on rioting.
Anonymous said...
so an off duty cop in an unmarked car shoots an autistic child who was singing in the street, with no weapon....do i have my facts straight here? also in the audio, he says he was about to pull a gun on him and was running toward him, did any of you see a gun? so knowing all of this some of you still would like to argue that the cop was justified just like JVD? wtf...
10/17/2018 01:49:00 PM
I read the entire string of comments. Didn't see any that argue that this was a justified shooting.
Uh....there is no way to justify this shooting....
10/17/2018 12:12:00 AM
So let me understand your way of thinking... you are making this guy wrong because he was rude and arrogant to you the first and only time you met him, and from the video, that really shows nothing. Hmmmm sounds a lot like the bullshit jury for JVD. You know nothing else in regards to what actually happened. I’m not saying he’s right and I’m not saying he’s wrong, because I wasn’t there and know nothing about it. This Sgt could be the biggest jagoff ever employed by the Chicago Police Dept, but that has no bearing on if this shooting was justified or not. By your way of thinking I could decide based on your comments you are either new or just a moron.
10/17/2018 07:23:00 PM
I dunno....never met the guy but let's see.....Merit? Check. Connected to Noble? Check. Shooting an unarmed kid from his car? Check. Taken care of by Barb West? Double check. And if another poster is to be believed, he has connections to Farakan. Between watching the video and his background info he sounds like an asshole to me. Be interesting to find out if they made him blow or if they conveniently forgot. Is he guilty? Possibly not. I wouldn't bet money against it though. This department doesn't want you shooting a felon that is using a car as a deadly weapon against you on duty. I'm pretty sure they don't like it too much when you are off duty, and shooting at a kid from your own personal vehicle lol. You can get off your soap box now Mr. Pompous.
Sgt nut case got dumped out of narcotics because he was crazy.Gets into this shooting right after. perfect example of how CPD passes along psychos and they never get help.
10/17/2018 08:26:00 AM
nobody wants to be the bad guy. if you do take a stand, the resistance is formidable. you are forever branded.
a perfect example occurred today. lots of people knew his condition before he drove down to the pee posse, but it was left to the pee posse to make the call. white shirt heads should roll.
I can’t believe the media isn’t flipping out about this and screaming “cover up and code of silence “ How is this guy still employed and not arrested and charged? Unbelievable! Clout
Anonymous said...
Anonymous KMA A/S Detective said...
Tale of two Sgt's...
M/W Sgt. (on duty) shoots an ARMED offender in 007 and the Sup's response on the incident "Ive got more questions than answers", Sgt is immediately stripped, his name is released within hours by someone in Sup's office. Sgt is investigated by I.A.D. confidential unit back to the start of his career. Sgt is sent straight to the police board to "have his day in court" as the Sup put it to anyone who would listen.
M/B Sgt (off duty) shoots an UNARMED offender in 005 and the Sup's response on the incident "Offender was being elusive & unresponsive", Sgt is stripped but tucked away in Chief BW's office, no personal information is released and the tape is hidden for 14 months along with contradicting on-scene statements by the Sgt. Sgt is not indicted, not investigated by IAD or the Feds, not charged with Agg Bat (x2) or Official Misconduct, not sent to call back and not the subject of harassment by the media or threats to his family.
I worked both cases, I know of what I speak...I'm not advocating for either side just putting out the facts as they were collected. Maybe off duty Sgt KM thought he saw something, maybe not - but on duty JVD thought he saw something too and was crucified by the media and courts. On duty M/W Sgt knew he saw something and was sacrificed by the Department (even though we knew that night the offender had a gun).
Anyone working after the JVD fiasco should read this, read it again, and again, and re-read it again - let it sink in. Anyone still proactively working is just a few seconds away from being unemployed, imprisoned and ruining YOUR life. This department does not play by the rules (especially these days) and definitely does not care about YOU.
Unless you're NOBLE, you're not worthy of Sgt KM's kind of treatment.
10/17/2018 10:15:00 AM
The M/W Sgt(also merit, also for no reason) is also heavy as fuck and more than landed on his feet.
10/17/2018 06:12:00 PM
Don't kid yourselves. I'm very sure that the fact that Sgt KM also worked as Farrakhan's body guard and is tight as hell with him has helped his case, and will continue to do so.
Sgt nut case got dumped out of narcotics because he was crazy.Gets into this shooting right after. perfect example of how CPD passes along psychos and they never get help.
10/17/2018 08:26:00 AM
nobody wants to be the bad guy. if you do take a stand, the resistance is formidable. you are forever branded.
a perfect example occurred today. lots of people knew his condition before he drove down to the pee posse, but it was left to the pee posse to make the call. white shirt heads should roll.
Oh we have another male drunken sergeant in 008. I wonder if the Lt’s, the XO or commmander are going to counsel him before it’s too late. They are all aware. Just look around.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
10/17/2018 12:12:00 AM
So let me understand your way of thinking... you are making this guy wrong because he was rude and arrogant to you the first and only time you met him, and from the video, that really shows nothing. Hmmmm sounds a lot like the bullshit jury for JVD. You know nothing else in regards to what actually happened. I’m not saying he’s right and I’m not saying he’s wrong, because I wasn’t there and know nothing about it. This Sgt could be the biggest jagoff ever employed by the Chicago Police Dept, but that has no bearing on if this shooting was justified or not. By your way of thinking I could decide based on your comments you are either new or just a moron.
10/17/2018 07:23:00 PM
I dunno....never met the guy but let's see.....Merit? Check. Connected to Noble? Check. Shooting an unarmed kid from his car? Check. Taken care of by Barb West? Double check. And if another poster is to be believed, he has connections to Farakan. Between watching the video and his background info he sounds like an asshole to me. Be interesting to find out if they made him blow or if they conveniently forgot. Is he guilty? Possibly not. I wouldn't bet money against it though. This department doesn't want you shooting a felon that is using a car as a deadly weapon against you on duty. I'm pretty sure they don't like it too much when you are off duty, and shooting at a kid from your own personal vehicle lol. You can get off your soap box now Mr. Pompous.
To: Let me understand
This guy is wrong and stupid for playing police while off-duty and in his personal vehicle. He should’ve called in before shooting th kid. By the way, can someone tell me why he decided to chase the kid in the first place?
Half of the Sgt's on CPD should NOT even be Sgt's
10/17/2018 12:44:00 PM
Far more than half. The majority..
Anonymous Anonymous said...
When a white police officer shoots at but does not hit a fleeing felon (shooting in 004 two years ago, stolen jaguar incident) the superintendent is quoted in the news papers saying “ at this point I have more questions than answers”. When a black police officer shoots at and wounds an unarmed mentally handicapped teen nothing is said. Nothing is questioned. This is outrageous. This race bullshit needs to end. Wrong is wrong and should have nothing to do with race, but apparently in Chicago race means everything. Jvd was guilty of being white. Truth
10/17/2018 12:11:00 PM
This is exactly what this is. This shit ass Sup has perfected the race game. JVD kills an armed assailant and is sitting in jail while this psycho is still in full pay status. No outrage, no marches because the narrative doesn’t fit. 1/16.
99 percent of first watch in 003 are clowns. Everyone’s sucking ass for a tac or 06 spot. Fraternizing with bosses to stay on their start time. Cops, and I use that word lightly, recording and snitching on other cops. The wannabe tactical barbies think their shit don’t stink because they make cigarette and food runs for the LT. Its like high school with guns. Why would anyone charge a mutt with Agg Batt when they can write a couple Parkers and tvbs and sit in the station socializing all night
Or the two year wonder that has never worked the streets. Pretty easy to figure out how that happened.
Isn’t the sgt a merit Lt now ?...
Nope. Same last name. Not related. But both merit across the board.
They need to go after Murphy too!! All the theft he is allowing!! Fat Herbie is going down!!
we know for sure 30% should not be sergeants , most exempts should wear blue shirts and want to protect pension Paul Vallas
end gold braid , end all pensions of Merit promtions , pension at last rank earned .
that would save millions
where is cnn , chicago fake news running stories of a MERIT BLACK SGT. gunning down an UNARMED HANDICAPPED CHILD .
No mercy for JVD shooting an armed ,dangerous offender on PCP
GZ that defended himself after having his head bashed into concrete sidewalk and that 6' kid attempted to disarm him after telling his girlfriend he was going to get that CRACKER
don't forget hands up don't shoot lie spread by all fake news democratic . U.S. AG , mayors , governors
merit black sgt shoots unarmed kid , no big thing
how about that
Anonymous said...
Anonymous KMA A/S Detective said...
Tale of two Sgt's...
M/W Sgt. (on duty) shoots an ARMED offender in 007 and the Sup's response on the incident "Ive got more questions than answers", Sgt is immediately stripped, his name is released within hours by someone in Sup's office. Sgt is investigated by I.A.D. confidential unit back to the start of his career. Sgt is sent straight to the police board to "have his day in court" as the Sup put it to anyone who would listen.
M/B Sgt (off duty) shoots an UNARMED offender in 005 and the Sup's response on the incident "Offender was being elusive & unresponsive", Sgt is stripped but tucked away in Chief BW's office, no personal information is released and the tape is hidden for 14 months along with contradicting on-scene statements by the Sgt. Sgt is not indicted, not investigated by IAD or the Feds, not charged with Agg Bat (x2) or Official Misconduct, not sent to call back and not the subject of harassment by the media or threats to his family.
I worked both cases, I know of what I speak...I'm not advocating for either side just putting out the facts as they were collected. Maybe off duty Sgt KM thought he saw something, maybe not - but on duty JVD thought he saw something too and was crucified by the media and courts. On duty M/W Sgt knew he saw something and was sacrificed by the Department (even though we knew that night the offender had a gun).
Anyone working after the JVD fiasco should read this, read it again, and again, and re-read it again - let it sink in. Anyone still proactively working is just a few seconds away from being unemployed, imprisoned and ruining YOUR life. This department does not play by the rules (especially these days) and definitely does not care about YOU.
Unless you're NOBLE, you're not worthy of Sgt KM's kind of treatment.
10/17/2018 10:15:00 AM
The M/W Sgt(also merit, also for no reason) is also heavy as fuck and more than landed on his feet.
10/17/2018 06:12:00 PM
Don't kid yourselves. I'm very sure that the fact that Sgt KM also worked as Farrakhan's body guard and is tight as hell with him has helped his case, and will continue to do so.
10/18/2018 08:58:00 AM
My point was they are both heavy and THAT is the reason they will both be fine.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Half of the Sgt's on CPD should NOT even be Sgt's
10/17/2018 12:44:00 PM
Far more than half. The majority..
10/18/2018 09:58:00 AM
Aw shucks, another goof with poor study habits and
no desire to do better for their family. Half the PO’s hired since 2000 are mentally defective. I’m just a keeper or an orderly, not a sergeant any longer.
Aw shucks, another goof with poor study habits and
no desire to do better for their family. Half the PO’s hired since 2000 are mentally defective. I’m just a keeper or an orderly, not a sergeant any longer.
To: Not a sergeant any longer..
Good.
To: “My point was they are both heavy” except M/W Sgt was sent to the police board within a few months DESPITE being as you say “heavy” where M/B Sgt is going on 14 months w NO notoriety and nowhere near being sent to the PB or scapegoated. Just the facts · now do you see my point!
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