Fifteen ET's Made
So the Department made fifteen Evidence Techs this week.
Word is that nine of them have already landed inside spots where they'll never have to process a crime scene.
Congratulations to those that will help alleviate the two and three hour waits at shooting scenes.
Word is that nine of them have already landed inside spots where they'll never have to process a crime scene.
Congratulations to those that will help alleviate the two and three hour waits at shooting scenes.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
79 Comments:
WTF do E.T’s do behind a desk? This place is so fucked up and I thought a corporation was managed terribly.
List por favor?
15? Wow that list is moving at turtle speed what # are they on 45?
Is there going to be another sgt class by year’s end? A lady who works at 35th St told me a new test won’t even be planned till 2021. This list appears to have some life left.
When the E.T.s were assigned to the districts everyone knew where they were and what they were doing. The idiot sergeants then wanted them to write tickets and curfews and go to other districts to handle jobs too. That made the E.T. Job turn to shit and no one wanted to be the E.T anymore.
Every district needs there own E.Ts assigned to that district and working out of that district but that would be doing the job right and efficiently.
Each district needs there own tow trucks and drivers assigned to them too that way people can’t disappear like they do now.
In all actuality, these 15 new ETs will equal a net gain of 5 or less.
Within the past year or so there have been roughly 10 or more ETs who've left for sergeant, detective and one to K9. The chick with the tats on 3rd watch gave up the spot when they started swiping in and out for any OT.
And surely there'll be at least one useless semi-heavy call in this class that'll wind up inside. After all, Wheelchair Joe is short a secretary since Marv's little princess-turned-ET (and returned immediately inside to be back in Joes stable) has since moved on to detective.
And all this movement just when I got used to seeing "the regulars" at my scenes.
Who's gonna be teaching the class with the Fat Lovebug now that his sidekick Marv is retired?
2-3 hours? Ha. I wish. Sometimes it’s 5 hours. And to process something less important like a “hold for investigation and processing” vehicle we’ve had to sit waiting for almost 2 while tours. About 15 hours a couple times. It is ridiculous. I don’t know if 15 new ET’s will alleviate much, but it definitely won’t hurt.
Worst run unit in the department!
Any idea what number the ET list is at
Now they can learn from the great PFI HK who after several months of being on the streets became the desk biatch in Unit 277. I wish all ets well in their crappy training they are gonna receive from him.
Have they been trained to call home?
15 -9 =6. 6 real Evidence Techs were made in Chicago this week. 9 worms crawl back into there hole. At this rate of less than 50% a few more classes will be needed to fill all the inside spots. O'well it is Chicago after all...
...and several will make Det soon...
Drop in the bucket.
And how many retired or moved on?
CPD sure isn’t CSI that’s for sure.
How many ET's do we have citywide?????? How many are in the field ???????How many are house mice ??????
Congrats K.Y.!
1 year too go... good luck kids you just hit the iceberg !!!!!!
One girl worked in the superintendents office,went to asset forfeiture,got "merit promoted to E.T. then wait and see where she will go next....(it's all who you date and marry) not your knowledge....
That means more bullshit overtime for that fatty herbie who hasn’t worked a crime scene in over 10 years .. forensic unit is a joke!!
As Usual...The Department gives Us only a drop in the leaky bucket. We need more if we are going to handle the uptick in crimes that is occurring these days.
It's like a promise to hire 100 more officers in the next 6 months when at least 200 are going to retire.
Being undermanned, and understaffed is the new normal. Sorry boys and girls. We will have to learn to do even more, with even less.
At least one or two ET's is bound to retire in January already. The wait times will be about the same.
and patrol numbers keep dwindling
That fit right in with sarcasm and silliness.
How many are going to be pulling the plug soon...7 ?
I hear Rahm might give each new EvTech $20,000 to help stamp out implicit bias at crime scenes...
or maybe it was to privatize the Forensic Service altogether.
OT:
I recently saw that they extended the deadline to sign up for the entrance exam. Obviously they’re having difficulty with finding willing participants, but does anyone know if they always extend the deadline, or has this been an extremely difficult exam to fill?
9 out of 15 landed inside spots? That’s crazy
Twenty percent equals 3 merit!
Congrats to all , none will end up inside .
Let them enjoy their promotions , it’s a difficult assignment , work 10-99 , Court all the time .
If the merit sergeants would approve E.T.’s assignment to all crime scenes , more crime scenes would be solved and more Evidence Technicians would be promoted . These sergeants could not pass an E.T. Or sergeant test ,
A crime scene is not contaminated because victim touched something , let an expert respond and evaluate. Those stripes do not make you smarter than the beat officer . Maybe , leave the office and go on a few crime scenes you coward .
Send one over to my scene...I’ve been waiting for days
OH they missed and the bullets hit a building????
NO ET lets make it a CDTP.
stay FETAL my friends.
I remember when we had an 09 Car on each shift in the Districts and the Crime Lab used to come out on only big cases.
What my Beloved Police Department has been reduced too???
Stay Frosty, Keep You heads down.
Forensic unit is a joke just look at all the f/I’s working inside making D3 pay!!
Congrats Ken
I work at headquarters and was told that the Sgt and Detective lust is coming down .
Part of the new deal as well as a new mayor putting in his own people in those spots.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
2-3 hours? Ha. I wish. Sometimes it’s 5 hours. And to process something less important like a “hold for investigation and processing” vehicle we’ve had to sit waiting for almost 2 while tours. About 15 hours a couple times. It is ridiculous. I don’t know if 15 new ET’s will alleviate much, but it definitely won’t hurt.
10/13/2018 12:45:00 AM
Hey, no time on the job...
Crime scenes (unless the natives are going absolutely batshit crazy... hootin' & hollarin'... cartwheelin' & backflippin'... wailin' for either Mama or Jesus or threatenin' the Poo-leese) are your new best friend in this current climate.
Nothing takes time off the clock like sitting on your ass in a climate controlled vehicle with internet access via a smartphone. And if you're dealing with even a half a deck up in your cranium, you'll be able to figure out how to grab coffee and a snack while enroute to the scene.
Then take your sweet ass time formulating and scribing your most perfect Supp manageable so that guys like me don't have to navigate through hieroglyphics and piss poor grammar when it comes time to CI the case.
As the old-timers told me 30 years ago: "kid, learn to treat this job like a whore".
Some advice is timeless. Consider this a learning moment, Junior.
" Anonymous said...
In all actuality, these 15 new ETs will equal a net gain of 5 or less.
Within the past year or so there have been roughly 10 or more ETs who've left for sergeant, detective and one to K9. The chick with the tats on 3rd watch gave up the spot when they started swiping in and out for any OT."
The city's lack in offering promotional exams (apprx during 2005-2014) and then suddenly offering sgt, et, and det exams in those orders within months/year apart caused the turn over rate to be so high for those positions. Fact.
Poor planning and a waste but can't blame the test takers. Some with 11-12 years on didnt have that opportunity to take a test until then. Surely though, academy classes 2002-2003 did not have a heavy hitter.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I work at headquarters and was told that the Sgt and Detective lust is coming down .
Part of the new deal as well as a new mayor putting in his own people in those spots.
10/13/2018 02:14:00 PM
The New Deal? Like what FDR introduced?
Last test they only went through the top 100.
ET's have given it up because of how poorly the units run and the burn out!
The females in the forensic unit are useless you could also throw in fat herby as well USELESS!!
Best part of an ET’s job is showing up to a crime scene that spans an entire block to ask the 2 year wonders sitting in their car(aka crime scene protection) what are the details... only to get the standard department response of, “I don’t know, they just told me to sit here”!
We are at full capacity for Detectives at the moment in the district and Area. New test will be announced early 2020.
Good will they all be riding Divvy bikes with baskets?
Will MR from 008 finally smile now?
That asshole Marv Otten thought it was funny to title us as "PETS"... Probationary Evidence Technicians .... when I got trained. Said 'since you're all like little lost puppies it sort of fits'. Condescending and ignorant as the day is long. Both him and house mouse herbie are total d-bags. Lucky for this class Otten is retired. Fucking dickface.
AH is one of the most miserable people around. All she did at summer mobile was bitch and complain. The audacity of her complaining about working the streets when she got to go back to a spot that that is nothing but perks. The rest of us were back to beat cars and little miss entitled still wasn't happy as she went back to M-F 9-5.
We need more K9’s !!!!
Forensic is run by a piss poor supervisors
The chick with the tats was useless she worked 6 hour tours and never stayed late we don't miss her at all.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I work at headquarters and was told that the Sgt and Detective lust is coming down .
Part of the new deal as well as a new mayor putting in his own people in those spots
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I didn’t realize we already had a mayoral election reward us with a new mayor..... Please give him/her a hearty handshake for me.... They’re not pulling any lists until after a new test has already been administered, get real.
How bout the ET doing time keeping in the unit..all that training and money spent on her ....capts wife
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I work at headquarters and was told that the Sgt and Detective lust is coming down .
Part of the new deal as well as a new mayor putting in his own people in those spots.
10/13/2018 02:14:00 PM
Lol, Moron.
At least put some more creativity into it to make it believable. 1) it’s the opposite as the current people in power would want to put their own people in before they leave. 2) they don’t give a fuck about a new mayor next year who isn’t even known yet. 3) for the truth, this list WILL be up for awhile. There is no company contracted to even begin testing. I made it two classes ago. We were told this list will go deep.
I work at headquarters and was told that the Sgt and Detective lust is coming down .
Part of the new deal as well as a new mayor putting in his own people in those spots.
10/13/2018 02:14:00 PM
I work at city hall and was told that 500 Sgt and 500 Detectives are being made so the mayor can put his own people in those spots before he leaves.
This Dept should give up the Forensic Unit and let State Police do it for us. Send all the hacks back to patrol. State would do a better job.
There is no way any lists are coming down. The detective list has only been up for 3 years. The sgt list for 5 . Keep dreaming !!! We won't see a new test for sgt until 2021 and detective 2023 . Stop with all the rumors . This is the system and there is nothing we can do about it . Another point is , who even wants sgt. ? You would be dealing with all the knuckle heads on the job and actually be held responsible for their actions. No thank you , and I used to want to be a sgt . Now a days keep your head down and get through the years till retirement and move on . Be safe all and back each other up , WE are all WE have out there.
I work at headquarters and was told that the Sgt and Detective lust is coming down .
Part of the new deal as well as a new mayor putting in his own people in those spots.
10/13/2018 02:14:00 PM
I assume you meant list. What new deal? New mayor can't take down the lists. The lists don't come down until there's a new list. There's not a new list until there's a new test. There's not a new test until someone is chosen to give the test. There's not a new test without the study group people getting the heads up so they can make their money. Basically, your info is wrong. Do you happen to sweep the parking lot at headquarters? Try to make your rumors at least pass even the simplest of bullshit sniff tests. Or just don't make shit up.
It's true, very poor management in the unit.
How many E/T's do we have citywide???? How many E/T's are working the streets and how many are working inside?????
I think they are around 93 on the ET. List. As far as the sargeants list. It is not going anywhere anytime soon. Per Bernstein email the new tests for sargeant and leutennants are likely delayed. Under consent decree, the monitor has 18 months to review the promotional process, then another 60 days to implement the changes. After that they have to find a connected testing firm, and write the test. At the earliest part 1 for sargeants test is at least a year away. Consent decree is forcing the city to add 225 spots to sargeants budget. 100 in 2019 another 100 in 2020. Class of 100 sargeants to start Thanksgiving week.
1238... WRONG
All money says Princess Erica returns shortly after detective class is finished to be some kind of in house detective/liaison/evidence coordinator while in reality she just resumes being one of Joes 10-12 secretaries. And that's only until he puts her in for merit sergeant when the new test is announced. It must be nice to work inside from right off probation, to right back inside as a secretary at ET pay scale. Mark my words she'll slither back to the windowless offices of 277 where she'll be hidden all day, free to come and go on the clock to take the kids to and from school and other places, shop etc. Daddy Marvelous Marv still has his guy in the wheelchair at the helm looking out for baby girl. They really REALLY need to audit this unit. And start with the D3 crybaby blimp FI that pulls down 250K+ a year. We'll see if he will actually try and stay in the bldg on bullshit for 16 hours a day as claimed for years when we didn't have to swipe. Tick tock, Herbster.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I work at headquarters and was told that the Sgt and Detective lust is coming down .
Part of the new deal as well as a new mayor putting in his own people in those spots.
10/13/2018 02:14:00 PM
The New Deal? Like what FDR introduced?
10/13/2018 05:41:00 PM
Lust gets people promoted.
This Dept should give up the Forensic Unit and let State Police do it for us. Send all the hacks back to patrol. State would do a better job.
10/14/2018 04:00:00 AM
Lol. Good luck with that. State Police doesn't want to do it. They'd have to hire over a hundred more of their CSI's.
wrong sergeant test will be announced in May 2019 after new mayor is sworn in
Forensic services needs the same as Washington D.C., Drain the swamp! Hint: Start at the top!
You guys are nuts! Sgt list is coming down. And no, they’re not making anymore this year. Stop spreading rumors!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This Dept should give up the Forensic Unit and let State Police do it for us. Send all the hacks back to patrol. State would do a better job.
10/14/2018 04:00:00 AM
Lol. Good luck with that. State Police doesn't want to do it. They'd have to hire over a hundred more of their CSI's.
Retiree here. State Police crime lab used to do it. Everything was sent to them. Not sure when or why it changed
Rumor is Herbies nutholder Rob F got a little visit from iad regarding padded OT and he's been singing to save his own ass. Turns out a high stress diet courtesy of iad is why hes lost about 70 pounds. Sleep well you effing thieves. Your next chubby FI.
65 on the street 28 inside
How many E/T's do we have citywide???? How many E/T's are working the streets and how many are working inside?????
Budgeted for 110 (2018 FY) - (before the budget cuts a few years back there was a total budget of 150 ETs I think). there is 1 on disability LOA, so the actual number is 109. Disability and or LOA count against vacant, budgeted positions.
they are also budgeted for 10 Forensic Investigators. I think 1 is actually in the field processing scenes, the cranky guy on 1st watch. At one time there was a budgeted total of 39 Forensic investigators.
Of those 109, last November there were a total of 76 bid spots for the 3 watches.
There is a need for people to handle the processing of evidence once its brought to wherever it is they bring it, but not at the expense of the officers waiting on the scene for hours at times, and the victims of the crime.
The unit is ripe with mismanagement from the top down. Indecision, mislaid priorities, unrealistic expectations and piss poor equipment. None of which is the fault of the Evidence Tech that shows up to your scene.
Help them out when they are photographing and shooting video on the scene you are guarding. Watch their back. Have the info they need. Get out of your car. Be part of the solution, not part of the problem.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
We need more K9’s !!!!
10/13/2018 10:11:00 PM
Ain't happening. We're at full strength. None in the budget for at least the next 2 years. Consent decree doesn't address canine either. If anything expect no more spots at 341 and maybe even a reduction in numbers thru attrition as dogs as a use of force option will go the way of the dodo bird. A police canine biting a member of the protected class is bad optics. So don't hold your breath, champ. Ain't happening. Embrace that beat car.
How many E/T's do we have citywide???? How many E/T's are working the streets and how many are working inside?????
10/14/2018 07:46:00 AM
Et’s working the street approx 65 about 22 per watch
Et’s working inside doing god know what 30.
Fi’s Working the street 1
Fi’s working inside 8 (now that is comical these people are making sgt’s Pay working inside and most of these 8 haven’t even processed a crime scene in years 10 years or so. Forensic unit is fucked up!!!
Fattie Herb pockets are getting fatter by the day! It must be nice that he’s one of the highest paid in the city. It’s even nicer that he signs the commanders name on his OT slips. He has never worked the street or earned a penny and he’s running the show. The LT and SGTs can’t even make their own decisions because they are scared of herbie. It’s sad. Staples control your bureau.
Congratulations to those that will help alleviate the two and three hour waits at shooting scenes.
Sitting on a scene keeps me fetal. I'll take it. Where the fuck have I got to go at this hourly rate?
WTF do E.T’s do behind a desk? This place is so fucked up and I thought a corporation was managed terribly.
10/13/2018 12:10:00 AM
They do jobs that were formerly filled by crime lab types, like latent prints, photo lab, etc.
It's the department's way of cheaping out by paying D-2 to former D-3 positions.
Nevertheless, they get the ET grade because they're filling a specialty job.
Take the next test.
Kenny Kenny Kenny way to go
Without a doubt, sergeant is the worst position on the department!
However LT is the best
If I had it to do all over again I would probably rather be in some unit as a P.O
10:24 pm those jobs should be filled by civilians
0:24 pm those jobs should be filled by civilians
10/15/2018 01:01:00 PM
I love how dumb fucks like you want less room for advancement on the police department. You're too dumb to see that the more positions you eliminate the more you are fucking yourself over.
Fattie Herb pockets are getting fatter by the day! It must be nice that he’s one of the highest paid in the city. It’s even nicer that he signs the commanders name on his OT slips. He has never worked the street or earned a penny and he’s running the show. The LT and SGTs can’t even make their own decisions because they are scared of herbie. It’s sad. Staples control your bureau.
10/14/2018 09:08:00 PM
23rd and Damen thanks the heavens for the primordial ooze of St. Bab's Parish...
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