Tuesday, October 23, 2018

Rules? What Rules?

Looks like IAD is operating on an entirely different set of Rules that only they are aware of:
  • North Side residents of Chicago have been terrorized by a rash of carjackings and stolen vehicles, often by offenders brandishing guns. Residents are afraid to sit in their cars for even a few moments for fear that they will be confronted by the bands of armed thugs.

    But what these North Side residents don’t realize is that the officers trying to combat these carjackings and thefts are not only risking their lives, they are risking their jobs as well.

    Consider what happened to Officer [LS].

    [LS] was working a three-man tactical car earlier this month when the three got a call that a Jeep had been stolen from Lincoln Avenue and Irving Park when the driver left it there to go into a store.

    Because the Jeep had a tracking device, its owner could relay its location to dispatchers. [LS]’s team followed the announcements on the radio. As they approached the scene, they observed the Jeep in an alley. They pulled up, preparing to conduct an investigatory stop. But the Jeep began driving toward them. It careened out of the alley, right at the officers who were in uniform. [LS] was attempting to get out of the backseat of the car.

    The offender, now using the car as a deadly weapon, drove right into [LS], who jumped backward into the car to protect himself from the attack. As the Jeep struck the police car, [LS] fired at the vehicle, whose driver was now engaged in using force to evade a felony arrest. As the Jeep pulled away, eliminating the threat, [LS] ceased firing. The offender escaped, and the Jeep was recovered nearby.

    The whole incident is captured on video.
Guess who got stripped and is cooling his heels at Call Back, without a COPA investigation, without even a COPA finding. According to the linked FOP article, the violations of the Contract and Due Process provisions contained within by IAD are extensive.

Keep this in mind when you decide to start chasing cars. Hopefully some non-police blogs point out to their readership (who are the ones losing their cars) that if the police dare to stop a stolen car, they're going to be stripped, face considerable suspension time, and perhaps lose their jobs and/or freedom attempting to effect arrests.

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121 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Getting fired for doing your job, what a joke. I can’t tell you the last time I did a traffic stop. It’s come to the point where I have ran plates that pop up stolen and I drive the other way. Also, how does the FOP allow this? Why are we paying dues when nothing is being done?

10/23/2018 12:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This officer was in fear for his life and stopped the threat. This could could have been anyone of us. Shame on the department for their knee jerk oversight, putting this officer at call back. LS you're in my prayers.

10/23/2018 12:33:00 AM  
Anonymous 29 and a day said...

I know that Im going to get jumped on, and I could be wrong......

BUT I THINK that the all the dept owes its officers is the two regular paychecks a month, a furlo, holiday pay PDs VDays and BFD days... And the uniform and duty availability checks.

The right to work over time, special employment and to go to court are not guaranteed.

I do believe that the star and the right to carry the gun are at the discretion of the Dept. as long as there are no problems

So actually, by sending this officer to call back while the situation is investigated is no contract violation.

The one possible problem is that in call back,while on restricted duty, shift assignment is at the Dept's discretion, which could be problematic. But in their defense they usually give the officer the shift he wants. They dont have to, but they usually do.

Its disheartening and discouraging to the officer and is bad for general morale, but the situation you describe is not a contract violation, sad to say.

Ive been retired for 12 years so Im not familiar with the exact wording of the Agreement. But when I was in call back that's how things were.

10/23/2018 12:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

People, please just stop doing police work. Give the victim the report, and go back into the hole until the next call comes out. Be like the Fire Dept and come out when called. We’ve seen it over and over (and over) that nothing happens to these assholes. Remember a few months ago, there was a kid that they caught? They arrested him, let him out and about 24 hrs later, HE GOT ARRESTED AGAIN FOR THE SAME THING!! No consequences, no repercussions. If you chase these assholes and they crash (and injure/kill someone, especially an innocent), you’re fucked. If they decide to drive at you and you shoot, you’re fucked. If they end up shooting you, you’re really fucked...and all over a stolen car. It’s just not worth it. Let Allstate, State Farm, and the rest of them pay out. This is the police that the asshole voters, slimeball politicians, SJW’s, tree-hugger hippie libtards, and brainwashed snowflakes all wanted. Now, let them have it. When urban pioneers Chad and Miffy are standing in the middle of the street, watching 2-4 of the “eternally aggrieved youth” driving off in their $80k SUV, and they’re in total disbelief, give them the RD#, and don’t give it a second thought. Chad and Miffy will move back to Glenview, Wilmette, Michigan or Ohio soon enough, and some other morons will take their place. And they’ll still vote for Toni, Lil Kim, Dart, and the rest of the cavalcade of Democratic, thieving idiots.
Self preservation, people. We’re all we have.

10/23/2018 12:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So what does this tell you? Every day people tell you, don't get involved. It's almost like entrapment you see something going on you decide to take some action and wham you are in trouble or stripped or prosecuted. Remember to not see anything, hear anything or say anything.

10/23/2018 01:17:00 AM  
Blogger Kefalonia1976 said...

SMMFH.

Can we at least create a system where leftists' cars are made targets for carjacking? I wouldn't care one bit.

10/23/2018 02:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope everything works out for LS. He is a good guy.

10/23/2018 02:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why do the rest of the police stand by and let LS face this alone? It's time for a work action everyone of you could use a day off so hit the medical as a group or half a group at least. The union seems to be as useless as tits on a bore hog and just like a hog it gets fatter and does less. Stand together for a change. 12:53 AM is spot on, If you can't be the police at least go down swinging.

10/23/2018 04:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck this City. Answer radio calls only and take reports. If the offenders are located just smile, wave, and watch them drive away. Insurance will buy people a new car (maybe). If they don't it isn't your problem and you won't have to worry about going to jail or having money taken out of your pocket.

10/23/2018 05:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

20 years ago, wise coppers were telling anyone that listened not to "chase" hot cars unless they were taken at gunpoint or by force. Apparently some didn't get the memo. Good luck, guys.

10/23/2018 05:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

18 months.

10/23/2018 05:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes 2 sets of rules... supposedly there's a hair gel tact warrior in 025 receiving the lambert tree for a similar incident as this guy sits at call back.

10/23/2018 05:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Vote Republican and vote no on every fucking judge let's change the game now

10/23/2018 05:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

More evidence and proof that i'm doing the right thing by staying fetal

10/23/2018 06:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LS , keep your head up ! You'll get through this and soon it will all be in your rear view . You'll be sipping an espresso in no time saying " fuck THAT job , I'm glad I'm gone ".

10/23/2018 06:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 0053 hrs , You could not have put it any better officer, We old retired Task Force Rangers have been trying to tell the young bucks on the job that the JOB has changed and if you do PRO-Active police work TODAY you are going to be rewarded with discipline,firing,prison,and ruining your life and your FAMILIES lives FOR WHAT ? Go back up and read it again ,and again until it sinks in for Heavens Sakes...These LOW INFORMATION VOTERS wanted this , Than let them eat cake . Remember the 1st @ 16th and going home safe after your tour is ALL THAT MATTERS . To quote Sean Connery " There endith the lesson "

10/23/2018 06:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Lionel Hutz said...

The coppers and supervisors working today don’t know how to be the police that’s why carjackings are popular again. Find your traffic whistle and put down the $1000 phone, your caramel macchiato and check Insta-Grandma-Book later. There’s really no need to chase if you use your brain. You see all the roadside construction going on everywhere in this town? Borrow some of those construction hazard cones and barriers, use crime scene tape and set-up vehicle checkpoints as soon as a flash for a stolen car comes over the radio. It’s not that hard boys and girls. On my watch we would have the PPO’s set-up checkpoints at possible escape routes and check the licenses and plates of every car that went past. Each officer is their own “plate reader”. Why do you think traffic vests and whistles are required uniform?! Why do you think Springfield gave us the authority to conduct roadside “safety checks”? We would catch that stolen car (or get a felony pinch) within an hour and citizens would thank us for checking on them. You sector sergeants can log a few of your cars and get a positive patronizing community interaction, traffic mission or whatever the hell else that chubby secretary upstairs requires. Why am I the only one who did this and not any of these young sergeants? Because they’re all friggin clowns who can’t take the initiative. Check on where your ex-girlfriend (or boy toy) is eating dinner on Faceberg later…you don’t stop carjackings that way.

The Tool of 86-3

10/23/2018 06:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quit being proactive boys n girls....tell your loved ones to get out of the city or at least stay out of the city. Create a lovely backyard for you and your own family. Protect yourself, and the ones you love. The good citizens of Chgo will realize soon enough what a dump it is becoming, let the savages have it, and move out...(See Detroit) When all coppers wake up and realize the job is not what it was even 8yrs ago, all coppers will be better off. I can not understand why anyone would put themselves in harms way for this crap job. These politicians have no use for any of us. Imagine if Butch Perwinkle gets the mayor gig, then you will really see some sick n twisted thoughts. Let this city cave in on itself...

10/23/2018 06:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry, but the courts have said that you do not have a property right to your police powers, and therefore, you are not entitled to “due process” in their temporary removal.

And BTW, it’s not IAD that’s behind it, they are just the organizational unit that does the processing. In this case, it was on the direction of the Superintendent. Based on the video, LS likely violated Dept policy and risks separation. That’s why he was stripped. The COPA investigation will determine any culpability.

10/23/2018 06:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did you watch the video?

10/23/2018 06:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IAD is just a conduit for relief of police powers... at the direction and discretion of the Superintendent.

10/23/2018 06:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LS keep your head up. Glad these savages didn't take you from us.

10/23/2018 06:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is exactly why you shouldn’t do a fucking thing. Give these assholes the department they want. 1st and 16th my friends. Answer calls and cut paper. Nothing more nothing less. Stay safe.

10/23/2018 06:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When you have Democrats in charge of the most corrupt city in United States of America the most corrupt County you can see why things like this happen but then here is a note of good news look at these pictures how no one shows up for anything very Obama dies and the hundreds thousands over 100,000+ show up for our president Donald J Trump;

https://www.infowars.com/photos-numbers-at-trump-rally-dwarf-those-at-obama-event/

Have you noticed also how none of the Democrats especially the Democrats here in this cesspool no one has spoken out against that invading army rapidly approaching our borders over 7000 strong look at the pictures the liberal diss honest fake media wants you to believe it is mostly women and children know it looks like mostly young males President Trump says many of them are criminals and it sure looks like they may be let’s hope President Trump puts the army on the border the full force United States military to repel these attackers! God bless President Donald Trump God bless the Chicago police department and police departments everywhere and hoping and praying the military does not let these invaders on our land! During World War II the Nazis invaded many countries but thanks to our great General George Patton he was able to repel the enemy let’s hope and pray that we can we call these enemies and make a point to protect our borders without our borders we don’t have a country!

In the coming election if you vote Democratic you definitely have a mental disorder!

10/23/2018 07:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone think it's time for the mayor and aldermen to listen what AG Sessions has to say? Rahmie and special ed say it's the courts fault and yet neither one calls out foxx or Madigan by name.

10/23/2018 07:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chief Calloway watched the video prior to making the decision to relieve the officer of his police powers. Apparently he saw something that prompted him to order the relief.

We may not agree with him (and I don't), but in his mindset he is looking out for the Department, in that if he allowed the officer to remain on the street during the investigation and he did something wrong, the lawsuit payout would be exponential.

10/23/2018 07:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is absolutely disgusting

10/23/2018 07:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is all getting way out of hand. Would someone please tell me what exactly you’re supposed to do? They’ve taken just about everything away from you, and expect all of you to put your lives on the line every single day. I would really like an answer to this. You’re not supposed to shoot at someone that shoots at you, can’t shoot at someone that tries to run one of you over, you’re not supposed to stop any offender because you might be concidered racist. What is your job description now?

10/23/2018 07:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Civil disobedience can be a 2 way street can't it ?

10/23/2018 07:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well guess who’s in charge of IAD? I know that other powers are in play here but Chief Calloway destroyed the academy with his incompetence and gets rewarded with a promotion. IAD was crap before now it’s going to be elephant shit.

10/23/2018 07:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On the subject of IAD/Confidential, Medical integrity unit.
While you are on the medical, make sure to familiarize yourself with the order.
Don't get caught working on your house, mowing your lawn, working on your car, or getting it repaired, drinking at a bar, running unauthorized errands, etc. Make sure to call your unit and let them know where you will leaving your house to go to certain authorized locations.
Don't get jammed up.

10/23/2018 07:35:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

IAD is nothing but a bunch of second guessing cowards who will step over the backs of the working police to advance their careers.

10/23/2018 07:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LS should have went directly to the hospital for stress and back injury from diving back into his vehicle. Then an IOD and on the medical. The department is no friend to any officer except the clouted up one's,example. Officers according to the department,SAO and sheriffs office carjacking is an insurance problem not a police problem anymore. The problem arises when officers take action and it gets turned around on you and you feel the consequences for trying to take the appropriate action. The appropriate action now is to take the report for the chumbalones who will continue to be victimized by the criminals and 9.5 and the department. Don't you officer, become the victim. Be the best Kelly girl you can be and write a stellar report for the insurance companies.

10/23/2018 07:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey kids, look! CPD is giving ANOTHER entrance exam. Haha. No wonder you can’t get enough bodies. This place sucks. I can’t wait to get out of here.

10/23/2018 07:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stolen cars hold no interest for me as a police officer since you cant get charges on seemingly decent cases. When asked to settle for CTTV, I release without charges. The car is recovered, the victim happy most times. I actually avoid them if possible.

When the D unit disbanded the auto theft unit things began to crumble. The city has shown us that stolen cars are just not that important. Don't get jammed up in a chase, or a shooting.

10/23/2018 07:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just ask Sgt. G.F from IAD, he has no qualms about telling you that there are no rules or regulations at IAD, he will tell you that "we do what we want, when we want". Apparently, Rule 14 doesn't apply to certain IAD investigators, right, Sarge. CPD MOTTO: Do as we say, not as we do.

10/23/2018 08:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bait criminals?

10/23/2018 08:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well at least theres a spot on a Tac team for another young guy to take to chase cars and shoot. They never learn do they?

10/23/2018 08:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


What do these guys not understand about being fetal. I know it goes against are instincts to be the police, but you cannot be the police in this environment!

10/23/2018 08:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will somebody, anybody, strip Fat Head Ed and get him the FOH? He is an embarrassment to all police officers everywhere. Fucking political and pandering asshole fool.

10/23/2018 08:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can we at least create a system where leftists' cars are made targets for carjacking? I wouldn't care one bit.

10/23/2018 02:37:00 AM


The system you inquire of has already been designed, created and, but for the occasional interference by enforcement of man made law, functioning as designed, created, implemented and intended.

In brief:

1. Another does unto you whatever you do not stop that other from doing unto you.

2. Another does unto you whatever you do not prevent that other from being able to do unto you.

3. Another will continue to do unto others whatever the fuck that other damn well pleases to do unto any other, until one other stops the fucker. Dead Stop. Full Measure. End of that fucker.


Absent enforcement of man made law, the Law of the Designer, Creator, Implementor and Intender runs True and Steady to Purpose.

In the presence of man made law enforcement, any fucking thing can result.

I defer to the Design.

The fuckers rely upon the possibilty of the enforcement of man made law to continue to fuck their chosen targets.

The any others chosen thusly can choose to defer to man made law OR to defend per Designed Intent.

Thus, default results are naturally achieved via designed options provided.

Weep not, as all are subjected to the Design.

10/23/2018 08:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10/23/2018 02:37:00 AM

I agree! It would also be nice if they would wear a large L on the shirt so we could identify them and give them the police response they deserve.

10/23/2018 08:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Keep your head up officer "LS". You are still getting paid with benefits even though your star, shield, and right to carry a weapon have been taken from you. Remember, you are the VICTIM of all of this as this individual would have ran you right over if you had not gotten back into the car. You had every right in the world to defend yourself and your partners with the use of deadly force. Being at the fort three c's (cripples, criminals, crazies) on lexington can be stressful. Take it one day at a time.

10/23/2018 08:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is one man's opinion: When Attorney General Jeff Sessions was in Chicago last week I hope the someone in the union told him stories like this. Yea, yea I know he came here and made a nice speech about not agreeing with the consent degree but he should hear what is actually occurring to the men and woman of the department. I have a suggestion; have Graham and/or Preib requests to go on Chicago Tonight or one of the Sunday Morning TV Community Shows give the host these stories of how, when Police Officers are doing their job, how the Department jams them. This is a ideal way to explain the Fergusson Effect on Law Enforcement.

10/23/2018 08:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't kid yourself, this is 100% special Ed. He plays the I'm on your side BS, but when has he even demonstrated it. Can we have a Sup that didn't get all merit promotions, lets try that for a change and see what happens. A street cop from start to finish, see how that impacts morale and the crime rate in this city.

10/23/2018 08:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Simple solution, stop chasing, until the public realizes part of the blame rests on the leftist politicians who pander to the criminal element. Maybe the only bright spot in this rash of car thefts, victims possibly become newly minted conservative voters.

10/23/2018 08:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These Demorats could give a fuck less.

10/23/2018 08:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A little birdie says Dan Herbert billed FLOP over 1.2 MILLION on JVD. Is this true. FLOP? Could've had any lawyer in town for less than half that amount! How did FLOP not negotiate a flat fee for the case?

10/23/2018 08:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know, I feel bad for the new hires. They came on this job to do police work and the way the climate is against the police forget about it. They’re beginning to realize that this career isn’t what they expected. I’ve talked to several who already are making plans to leave. Very disheartening to these new guys and gals who really want to be an aggressive crime fighting officer. Those days are so gone.

10/23/2018 09:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you can't learn from others, learn from from your own mistakes.

My apologies Office.

10/23/2018 09:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LIBERALS so called leaders. CRIMINALS first. Po's quit looking for crime. But binders on. The LIBERAL Democrat hate you.

10/23/2018 09:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No matter who the next mayor is, it will only get worse. Stay fetal.

10/23/2018 09:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT
Judge “let em go” Hooks placed on administrative leave for anger magnet issues.

10/23/2018 09:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic

Judge Hooks sent to Markham and to undergo anger management training for harassment of a fellow unnamed judge

Karma

10/23/2018 09:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Honestly can’t remember the last time I’ve done a traffic stop let along even think about going after a stolen car, and I’m one of the supposed hard charging unit guys still sort of doing “police work”.

10/23/2018 09:35:00 AM  
Blogger Cuthbert J Twillie said...

To --> 10/23/2018, 12:53:00 AM

Bravo Sir, Bravo.

(Stay Safe out there)

10/23/2018 09:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As long as he continues to get a paycheck how is he being harmed?

10/23/2018 09:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

COPA requested the PO be stripped. Supt agreed. Enough said. PRIEB is a moron who never bothers to get the facts straight. He is an embarrassment to the FOP. Complete idiot who looks like a homeless bum in week old clothes.

10/23/2018 09:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Come on people! Would the 5th District Desk chase and shoot at stolen cars? NO. Why are you then?

10/23/2018 09:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We ought to let civilians that know we've abandoned policing. Inform CCW holders that they need to load their magazines with gloves on and wipe all prints off cartridges before loading.

10/23/2018 09:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmmm ... at first read that didn't seem unfair at all. I think I am getting the durst symptoms of the brain disease.

10/23/2018 09:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

" Rules are made for Thee, not for Me"
Mr. Fenner.

10/23/2018 10:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The poster at 10/23/2018 12:53:00 AM is exactly right. The system is broken and no one has the backs of the police anymore. Everything is in favor of the criminals. Fuck em. Let them have a taste of what they want. Thugs running free terrorizing the citizens without fear of any repercussions. What could go wrong. Maybe after a few years of this Thunderdome shit they'll wake up and realize that law and order really is necessary for a civil society. Until then, fetality is the only way for the police to survive.

10/23/2018 10:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

George , and anti defamation league now control the cpd

10/23/2018 10:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ls hamng in their brother we support you

a friend cpd 016

10/23/2018 10:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

STOP BEING PROACTIVE! Fat Head Ed likes to say he has the back of the Officer, but that is only to line up the target for his knife. Fat Head Ed is nothing but a politician looking out for himself and his cheating, rank stealing friends and family. Every Officer on that Tact team should just stop in protest and solidarity of this Officer.

Show up at roll call then consider your day over. The job you save may be your own.

10/23/2018 10:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To LS, go to a medical professional and get diagnosed having post traumatic whatever, and go medical disability. Look at the whole incident as an opportunity to get off this bullshit job. Find a firm that handles disability cases and go for it. If your lucky, you'll get 75% tax free and you can do other things on the side if you so desire. Forget about, "I hope everything works out OK," stick it in their ass. Take advantage of their stupidity, something like this might never come again in you life time. This is not the time to play cops and robber's.

10/23/2018 10:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Citizen Richard said...

Blogger Kefalonia1976 said...

SMMFH.

Can we at least create a system where leftists' cars are made targets for carjacking? I wouldn't care one bit.

10/23/2018 02:37:00 AM

We did, they have BLM bumper stickers on them. Whatever the fuck that means.
LEO's, stop doing anything that can hang you up. As a long time reader it seems that it is just not worth laying it on the line when you have no support from higher command.
G-d bless all of you, and,
FREE JVD!

10/23/2018 10:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
This officer was in fear for his life and stopped the threat. This could could have been anyone of us. Shame on the department for their knee jerk oversight, putting this officer at call back. LS you're in my prayers.

10/23/2018 12:33:00 AM
Anonymous 29 and a day said...
I know that Im going to get jumped on, and I could be wrong......

BUT I THINK that the all the dept owes its officers is the two regular paychecks a month, a furlo, holiday pay PDs VDays and BFD days... And the uniform and duty availability checks.

The right to work over time, special employment and to go to court are not guaranteed.

I do believe that the star and the right to carry the gun are at the discretion of the Dept. as long as there are no problems

So actually, by sending this officer to call back while the situation is investigated is no contract violation.

The one possible problem is that in call back,while on restricted duty, shift assignment is at the Dept's discretion, which could be problematic. But in their defense they usually give the officer the shift he wants. They dont have to, but they usually do.

Its disheartening and discouraging to the officer and is bad for general morale, but the situation you describe is not a contract violation, sad to say.

Ive been retired for 12 years so Im not familiar with the exact wording of the Agreement. But when I was in call back that's how things were.

I too am retired and want to say you are right about a few things, but you are dead wrong about carrying your weapon. If you were a working officer you can make enemies. Being stripped of you weapon can put you in deadly danger, especially if you reside in the same district that you work and make arrests or even the adjoining district

10/23/2018 10:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Two words for you - Tina Skahill
She's been let off the leash to do as she pleases in IAD, as the current chief and deputy have no clue as to what they are doing. Expect more bad decisions in the future.

10/23/2018 10:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Offender, is related to a merit sgt from 024 who showed up on scene shortly after the incident. Diffrent rules for diffrent sets of people!

10/23/2018 11:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So some idiot leaves the keys in their car and Im going to chase it and nothing happens to them if caught.let me think.

10/23/2018 11:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic - probably about a year too late--
A longtime Cook County judge has been referred to anger management counseling and reassigned to administrative duties until further notice.

Judge William Hooks, who has been a criminal courts judge for nearly 10 years, is accused of “acting in such a manner that created a hostile work environment for another judge,” according to a news release sent Monday evening from Chief Judge Timothy Evans’ office.

The alleged incident or incidents did not occur inside a courtroom, the release stated. Court officials noted that Hooks “expressed contrition” about the matter before the Executive Committee of the Circuit Court of Cook County.

It was not immediately clear who was the other judge involved.

Hooks will perform his administrative duties at the county courthouse in Markham.

This asshole will be forever known as the hack who cut murderer Wilson loose.

10/23/2018 11:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so he gets a paid vacation. no need to act fetel for a few weeks. he can probably use the time to decompress anyway.

10/23/2018 11:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
People, please just stop doing police work. Give the victim the report, and go back into the hole until the next call comes out. Be like the Fire Dept and come out when called. We’ve seen it over and over (and over) that nothing happens to these assholes. Remember a few months ago, there was a kid that they caught? They arrested him, let him out and about 24 hrs later, HE GOT ARRESTED AGAIN FOR THE SAME THING!! No consequences, no repercussions. If you chase these assholes and they crash (and injure/kill someone, especially an innocent), you’re fucked. If they decide to drive at you and you shoot, you’re fucked. If they end up shooting you, you’re really fucked...and all over a stolen car. It’s just not worth it. Let Allstate, State Farm, and the rest of them pay out. This is the police that the asshole voters, slimeball politicians, SJW’s, tree-hugger hippie libtards, and brainwashed snowflakes all wanted. Now, let them have it. When urban pioneers Chad and Miffy are standing in the middle of the street, watching 2-4 of the “eternally aggrieved youth” driving off in their $80k SUV, and they’re in total disbelief, give them the RD#, and don’t give it a second thought. Chad and Miffy will move back to Glenview, Wilmette, Michigan or Ohio soon enough, and some other morons will take their place. And they’ll still vote for Toni, Lil Kim, Dart, and the rest of the cavalcade of Democratic, thieving idiots.
Self preservation, people. We’re all we have.

10/23/2018 12:53:00 AM

A few months ago? Don't kid yourself, it happens every single day.

10/23/2018 11:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You’re expendable... don’t believe your own bullshit.

10/23/2018 12:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So here’s the plan you all shoot into fleeing cars and all get sent to call back. Who knows some of you might even get lucky and hit someone. Soon all force in call back. Who they gonna call?

10/23/2018 12:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"911, what is your emergency?"

"My car was stolen and I got knocked down!"

"Thank you for calling, we will not be able to respond to that call since we can not affect an arrest due to existing policy put in place by know nothing civilian overseers and Dept brass.. Please check back after the elections to see if there will be any changes in Dept policy.!"

"Thank you again for attempting to utilize the Chicago Police Dept..."

10/23/2018 01:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: Anybody know what transpired in 016 at about 13:00 at Higgins and Neenah?

10/23/2018 01:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hate to say it but these crime victims in that neck of the woods by and large look down on the police. They would actually endorse and support Asshat Olungopu or wtf that idiots name is, than some honest hardworking beat cop that's actually trying to protect them. One of em had the balls to tell me that stating the race of wanted offenders was racist. They can't be helped so all their affordable bail bs can bitem right in the ass. They have exactly what they wanted to have.

10/23/2018 01:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where is the 24/7 footage of an Off Duty Black Officer Shooting an unarmed Special Needs Child. Van Dykes shooting you can somewhat argue but the Black Muslim Cop just pulling up Off Duty and shooting a defenseless child is a disgrace and should be the lead story on the National News, like it would have been if the cop was White.

10/23/2018 02:42:00 PM  
Anonymous TARGET: BLUE said...

O/T but Relevant

RE: "Sergeant" Assata Olugbala, formerly known as Bernice I. Smith

A despicable mole amongst us.

As the leader and "Soul" of the Black Liberation Army (BLA), a Black Panther Party (BPP) spin-off, FBI fugitive Joanne CHESIMARD, alias ASSATA OLUGBALA SHAKUR was convicted and sentenced to prison for the murder of New Jersey State Trooper Werner Foerster before her escape and flight to Cuba.

Most people are unaware of the fact that her Black Liberation Army was also responsible for the ambush assassinations of at least six on-duty uniformed NYPD officers; They are:

Waverly Jones and Joseph Piagentini
Gregory Foster and Rocco Laurie
Phillip Cardillo
John Scarangella

Using a search engine, check out the ghastly, cold-blooded ambush assassinations of these black and white members of New York's Finest.

This post is to assure all readers that both the New Jersey State Police and the NYPD are aware of the fact that one purported CPD "merit sergeant" born as Bernice I. Smith has had her name legally changed to ASSATA OLUGBALA.

What say you Rahm Emanuel and Eddie Johnson? Local Mainstream Media?

10/23/2018 02:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I’m sure that the asshole who got his car took hates the police too.

10/23/2018 02:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nothing good results from a high speed car chase.
The city bowed down to the aclu and they are getting the police service they want. Just give them a report and advise them to call their insurance,if they have insurance. Go into the station and make our the report and notify CW of the theft. Then take a personal and think about where lunch is.

10/23/2018 02:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sad to say but the less you do is better for you !!!

10/23/2018 03:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ELMHURST, IL — Elmhurst Police continue to investigate an incident that occurred Tuesday where an officer fired his weapon and the suspect fled in his vehicle during a traffic stop. Several lanes were closed Tuesday while Elmhurst Police investigated the incident that occurred at York and Crestview Avenue at 4:45 p.m. Northbound York Street at Lake Street and southbound at Grand Avenue had lanes closed due to the investigation.

Police said the officer fired his weapon during the traffic stop when the suspect drove his car in the direction of the officer. As the suspect fled from police, he also crashed into another vehicle. The car was found in Chicago following a pursuit involving several police agencies.

According to police, the officers involved were not injured, and the driver remains at large.

This incident remains an active and ongoing investigation by the Elmhurst Police Department, The DuPage Major Crimes Task Force and the DuPage County State's Attorney's Office.
This incident is under investigation by the Elmhurst Police Department, the DuPage Major Crimes Task Force and the DuPage County States Attorney's Office.

Elmhurst pd must have a real police chief and a real states attorney nobody in Elmhurst was stripped or fire over this incident , I'm glad the Elmhurst police officer was not injured

a friend cpd 016
also a big f-ckyou to the 19th ward too.

10/23/2018 03:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The second I read "tactical team" then I knew that it was going to end badly. It always does. But you get to brag to your friends and family that you work on tact.

10/23/2018 03:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look who is running IAD, the one and only CKS. Promise you no discipline will fall on any officers or bosses who are NOBLE, she was put there for a reason.....jam up whitey. Nominates a hater cop killer emulator....clearly these moves they are making are no accident.

10/23/2018 03:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bullshit!! SCC is right about FOP. A lawsuit should be filed, ASAP. The academy should start teaching these new (do nothing) techniques so officers will know the approved actions. Citizens of Chicago, call your elected officials and demand this bs stop. You are on your own against the thugs.

10/23/2018 03:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, an incompetent merit political hack, Calloway, looked at the video sand made a decision ?
That makes it all better. Really it does. Has Calloway ever made an arrest? Nahhhh. He was to busy "studying" for an exempt spot. He and the dimwitted Lietenant Fenner.

10/23/2018 04:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

"You know, I feel bad for the new hires.
They came on this job to do police work..."

10/23/2018 09:03:00 AM

Actually no...

Many of them DID NOT come on this job
to do Police Work.

They signed up because there's very little
out there with medical $80K after a handful of years.

They'll sign up and be the change against
your old Police Reform fighting ass.

Heh... Gettin' all up in Dude's face/gettin'
all up in Dude's bidness like back in the 80's
and 90's?

(To say nothing of the 1950's thru 70's)

REAL Police Work?

Naw... They didn't hire on for that.
They hired on to be the change.

Watch yourself around them.

10/23/2018 04:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Well at least theres a spot on a Tac team for another young guy to take to chase cars and shoot. They never learn do they?

10/23/2018 08:02:00 AM

It's a hard choice to make when you want to do the right thing and earn your pay, Thank you Luigi for your service

10/23/2018 04:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@ 10/23/2018 08:13:00 AM


>Solitary Slow Clap echoing in a large room<

Whither thus when the smarter-than-thou(good at feigning
innocence but they ALL know who they are) attempt to
override/overwrite the Divine Design and subvert that
which is of human origin but Divinely Inspired (Laws)
out of a misdirected sense of self and purpose.

Knowing so much that just isn't so...

Barring the meager machinations of man, we agree heartily
that this here "Default Setting" is a thing of terrible
beauty.

...Stand back and be awed.

An upright Preacher-Man went in with a mic-drop
on this very topic.

To all you truth tellers out there.
Keep it up. It's being noticed.

>Grin!<

10/23/2018 04:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I’ve seen references on this thread about “hair gel” police. The other day I can to a realization. We started calling guys “hair gels” from about 2004-2007 Whig means those guys all have 12-15 years on the job. I remember many of the hair gels I worked with and they became great officers.. the only weird thin is that they all have some time on and even a few have some gray hairs now. I believe the new derogatory term for the new kids on this job are the skinny jeans police and the “be the change” police for those who actually just took this job believing that BS. Anyone hired after 2012 in my opinion is an absolute joke. Think about it. Anyone hired after 2009 has never worked the street without an incar camera or gps. Anyone hired after 2015 as never worked without a body cam and if they did it was only for a few months. In closing, after seeing how they teach the new kids in the academy and how they tell them to never work with an officer with time on the job DO NOT TRUST ANYONE hired after 2015. After JVD this department brainwashed every recruit coming in this job to be the change.... 99 percent of them are terrible police officers who pride themselves in traffic and DUIs..

10/23/2018 05:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

how about using a SEAL team to go and get Chasimard......bring her back, one way or another....

10/23/2018 05:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is what you have when you have a Demorat Socialist party running Chicago and Cook county. This is happening all over the country that are run by Demorats .(Dimms). If any copper goes out and patrols aggressive you are NUTS.

10/23/2018 05:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Vote Republican and vote "NO" on all judges.
If you are African American and you still vote democrat then you really need a history lesson.

10/23/2018 05:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chief Calloway watched the video prior to making the decision to relieve the officer of his police powers. Apparently he saw something that prompted him to order the relief.

We may not agree with him (and I don't), but in his mindset he is looking out for the Department, in that if he allowed the officer to remain on the street during the investigation and he did something wrong, the lawsuit payout would be exponential.

10/23/2018 07:13:00 AM

Bullshit, he’s not looking out for the best interests of the Dept at all. He’s absolutely Ball-less. He’s was petrified of recruits filing any type of complaint or lawsuit at the Academy so he let them do whatever they wanted. The instructors were powerless. He hated any type of discipline in the form of pushups, etc. Said it had to be a learning environment and not a boot camp. That was bullshit because he was just afraid that the millennial crybabies would complain that the instructors were being “mean” to them and file a beef. He’s more spineless than a jellyfish.

10/23/2018 05:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember to vote NO on judges.

10/23/2018 06:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmmmm I foresee the cop killer name change girl to transfer to IAD soon...

10/23/2018 06:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lionel Hutz said...
The coppers and supervisors working today don’t know how to be the police that’s why carjackings are popular again. Find your traffic whistle and put down the $1000 phone, your caramel macchiato and check Insta-Grandma-Book later. There’s really no need to chase if you use your brain. You see all the roadside construction going on everywhere in this town? Borrow some of those construction hazard cones and barriers, use crime scene tape and set-up vehicle checkpoints as soon as a flash for a stolen car comes over the radio. It’s not that hard boys and girls

—————-

I have 21 years on so I can speak to the absolute ridiculousness of this idea. Sure, back in the day we would utilize tools at our discretion such as opening the fire hydrants to slow down drag racers... but those days are GONE. Think about what you are suggesting coppers do...remove construction barriers from areas under construction that were put in place by construction workers. Then string crime scene tape in an area where there is no crime scene.

That shit may have worked back in the day, but anyone coppers that doesn’t see what is wrong with your plan needs their head examined. Coppers now must worry about lawsuits at every turn, therefore they should first consider what could go wrong with such a plan. How bout these...

Someone gets in an accident by the construction site and the lawyers get video from a business that shows your dumb ass taking cones from the construction site...who do u think the construction company is going to blame? The city? The lawyers?? YOU will be blamed, sued and lose!

Then there is a fender bender and the drivers blame you for creating a fake crime scene. Again YOU and all officers on scene will be sued and lose.

Finally, why do/did you give a fuck that much? Even if you caught a hijacker with the firearm, with a copperative victim, even if the offender pled or lost in trial...nothing is going to happen to the offender. Nothing.

But if shit goes bad with your plan...something WILL happen to you

10/23/2018 06:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lionel Hutz,
I like your wisdom and maturity.
Any chance we could get you to be a regular contributor?

10/23/2018 07:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
On the subject of IAD/Confidential, Medical integrity unit.
While you are on the medical, make sure to familiarize yourself with the order.
Don't get caught working on your house, mowing your lawn, working on your car, or getting it repaired, drinking at a bar, running unauthorized errands, etc. Make sure to call your unit and let them know where you will leaving your house to go to certain authorized locations.
Don't get jammed up.

10/23/2018 07:35:00 AM

Those rules only apply to the unclouted.

The special people do what they want, when they want even while on medical and do so with virtual impunity.

10/23/2018 07:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look for law enforcement work elsewhere. We did it. Wife, 9 year old daughter and a dog. Anxiety and relief. That was a memorable trip north. Far north. 3 years later. We do not live in an extremely dangerous environment anymore. My family’s freedom has been brought back to us. Best decision we ever made. A lot of car vs deer radio calls this and every fall. The locals are armed and would have your back in a millisecond. The DUI rate is very bad. The winters are pure and fresh. You breathe and smile after a fresh snowfall. Criminals are punished according to laws and they go to jail. All of them. Huge fines and jail time. Justice is served up here. Freedom is respected and defended up here.

10/23/2018 08:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
A little birdie says Dan Herbert billed FLOP over 1.2 MILLION on JVD. Is this true. FLOP? Could've had any lawyer in town for less than half that amount! How did FLOP not negotiate a flat fee for the case?

10/23/2018 08:55:00 AM

That seems like quite a bit of money. I wonder what the police unions paid for the defense of officers in similar situations from other jurisdictions around the country?

I always got the impression that the the union hall was a house divided on Herbert. Half the union officials think he’s Lionel Hutz, and the other half had found it personally beneficial to continue giving Herbert work no matter how much of the officers money he wasted.

10/23/2018 09:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Always remember that when you do a good job on this department it is very short lived. However, any perception of impropriety during the performance of your duties can last a very long time. I know that for a lot of us it's difficult, but just before you hit those lights think to yourself, FETAL IS BETTER. Don't worry, the rest of us will understand why you didn't and your loved ones will thank you. God knows the liberals won't. FETAL IS BETTER, love it, live it!!!

10/23/2018 09:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Look for law enforcement work elsewhere. We did it. Wife, 9 year old daughter and a dog. Anxiety and relief. That was a memorable trip north. Far north. 3 years later. We do not live in an extremely dangerous environment anymore. My family’s freedom has been brought back to us. Best decision we ever made. A lot of car vs deer radio calls this and every fall. The locals are armed and would have your back in a millisecond. The DUI rate is very bad. The winters are pure and fresh. You breathe and smile after a fresh snowfall. Criminals are punished according to laws and they go to jail. All of them. Huge fines and jail time. Justice is served up here. Freedom is respected and defended up here.

10/23/2018 08:06:00 PM

Welcome to the North Side.

10/23/2018 09:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Look for law enforcement work elsewhere. We did it. Wife, 9 year old daughter and a dog. Anxiety and relief. That was a memorable trip north. Far north. 3 years later. We do not live in an extremely dangerous environment anymore. My family’s freedom has been brought back to us. Best decision we ever made. A lot of car vs deer radio calls this and every fall. The locals are armed and would have your back in a millisecond. The DUI rate is very bad. The winters are pure and fresh. You breathe and smile after a fresh snowfall. Criminals are punished according to laws and they go to jail. All of them. Huge fines and jail time. Justice is served up here. Freedom is respected and defended up here.
10/23/2018 08:06:00 PM

You joined the Royal Canadian Mounted Police?

10/23/2018 09:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
how about using a SEAL team to go and get Chasimard......bring her back, one way or another....

10/23/2018 05:28:00 PM

How about not risking any service members lives over this stupid piece of shit.

10/23/2018 09:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why is the 6th District putting down a beat car 24/7 on the northeast corner of 91st St. and Stewart?

10/23/2018 10:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'll say this again and again. Don't foot chase, don't car chase, don't even stop anyone. ITS NOT WORTH IT. POLICE WORK IS NOT THE SAME AS IT WAS 20-30 YEARS AGO. DON'T BE A FOOL. STOP IT. Be safe and God Bless !!!!!

10/23/2018 10:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lionel Hutz,
I like your wisdom and maturity.
Any chance we could get you to be a regular contributor?

10/23/2018 07:34:00 PM

You and Lionel are both whack.

10/23/2018 11:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've seen a few saying LS is fine because he's still getting paid and keeping his benefits. That's good and he should but he shouldn't be stripped unless it was a bad shoot which doesn't sound like it was. When I first got on the job, I had a medical condition that required surgery and kept me from working for 2 months. I was barely on streets for 2 weeks so I had no comp time and used up all medical days ppos get. I was on no pay status and moved back with my parents as I healed but the worst thing was when I had to turn in my star and shield. Horrible feeling even though I knew I would get them back once I recovered. I can't imagine how this officer is feeling but I hope he keeps his spirits up and comes out on top.

10/24/2018 01:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8:08 pm. Sounds like ur in the UP. God Bless Brother. Stay Safe!

10/24/2018 01:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12:53, Couldn't have said it better myself. You have my vote, and a beer if I ever meet you!

10/24/2018 02:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
8:08 pm. Sounds like ur in the UP. God Bless Brother. Stay Safe!

10/24/2018 01:52:00 AM
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A friend of mine retired from a ghetto burb PD and moved to the UP. Sent me a pic of a snow covered trail with a set of hoof prints down the middle. Titled it "Rush Hour." LOL

10/24/2018 07:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just ask Sgt. G.F from IAD, he has no qualms about telling you that there are no rules or regulations at IAD, he will tell you that "we do what we want, when we want". Apparently, Rule 14 doesn't apply to certain IAD investigators, right, Sarge. CPD MOTTO: Do as we say, not as we do.

10/23/2018 08:00:00 AM

This is true. IAD has no rules. They do as they please. Strip POs for nonsense while others stay on the street.

10/24/2018 12:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the escaped cop killer who is living in Cuba is a hero to many of the Hollywood crowd and liberals in general. When Obama signed that pact with Cuba there was a call for him to demand the cop killer be turned over to the US. Obama ignored that demand and refused to bring it up.

10/24/2018 01:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to 10/23/2018 606pm what area did you lateral to.

10/24/2018 05:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Montana his hiring big time pay not bad 75,000 plus qa take home car , them good ode boy cowboys don't take too much crap

10/24/2018 05:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can't wait to retire from this SHIT HOLE and get my 74% pension; deferred comp; pay for my comp time; and pay for my furlough; minus federal tax !!!!!!!!!!!!

10/24/2018 06:38:00 PM  

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