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We've said it before - cops aren't above the law....but they aren't under it either.
- Special prosecutors and the Illinois attorney general’s office are challenging former Chicago police Officer Jason Van Dyke’s prison sentence before the state’s highest court.
A petition filed Monday does not explicitly target the length of the nearly seven-year sentence, which many activists have criticized as too lenient. But it does note that a significantly longer sentence would be justifiable under state law.
Kane County State’s Attorney Joseph McMahon, appointed to handle the Van Dyke case, and Attorney General Kwame Raoul argue in the petition that Judge Vincent Gaughan sentenced Van Dyke under improper legal guidelines.
Gaughan has faults, some of which were evident at the trial, but his sentencing is exactly in line with tens of dozens of other sentences for similar charges, especially for defendants with similar backgrounds (which is to say, none.)
Van Dyke was the first person in history charged by the shot. The Cook County ME would be hard pressed to say which bullet killed McDonald as the bullets and wounds aren't numbered.... because if it was the first bullet, then every other bullet doesn't matter - they just look bad, and the law doesn't provide for charging based on bad optics.
Numerous commentators here and elsewhere have noted that there still isn't a shooter since who has been charged for each bullet fired. Is Kwame prepared to re-sentence hundreds of other prisoners? Or is this exactly what we suspect it to be?
Even McDonald's mother wants this to be over according to the Slum Times:
Van Dyke was the first person in history charged by the shot. The Cook County ME would be hard pressed to say which bullet killed McDonald as the bullets and wounds aren't numbered.... because if it was the first bullet, then every other bullet doesn't matter - they just look bad, and the law doesn't provide for charging based on bad optics.
Numerous commentators here and elsewhere have noted that there still isn't a shooter since who has been charged for each bullet fired. Is Kwame prepared to re-sentence hundreds of other prisoners? Or is this exactly what we suspect it to be?
Even McDonald's mother wants this to be over according to the Slum Times:
- And McMahon told reporters that McDonald’s mother, Tina Hunter, “would like the process to be over, whatever the outcome.”
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It appears to be a racist agenda fueled by Kwame. This whole state is now dominated by agenda driven, vindictive, anti 2A leftists.
Kwame Raul is a Madigan puppet who is just pandering for votes
Go ahead and resentence so the defense can appeal and have the whole case eventually thrown out. What did we do to deserve another garbage AG?
How is it possible to not overturn this travesty on appeal? Illinois statutes allow deadly force in this case. If the law allows it, then obviously the jury didn't follow state law with their verdict. How the fuck can this guilty verdict not get overturned?
SCC said -- -
Van Dyke was the first person in history charged by the shot.
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EXACTLY!!
I thought the same thing about sentencing over again.
ALL the 100s, if not 1000s, of criminals who got off with reduced charges and/or light sentences as well as those released VERY early on drug charges, armed robberies, rapes, etc.
Leave Van Dyke alone.. That "kid" had a knife on him (was high) AND he would NOT listen to commands to "Drop the Knife".
Next case.
How much more do the police have to take ? This is the most racist,pandering bullshit I have ever seen. What precedent was there for even charging 16 different counts for each shot ? I dont know why youpolice dont start some type of job action.You should not have to sit there and just eat this shit up. The most shots fired are in the comminity. I hope every shooting encounter produces multiple charges going forward for the criminal bastards that are destroying the city.
Kwame...your agenda is so obvious.
Same with Kimisha.
And same with that fake news Dahleen...
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Retired, 30+
So does this mean this political scumbag will now review each and every lite sentence given to violent gang members? He’s going to be busy because there’s hundreds of cases. Will he also review the parole boards decisions to let violent offenders out way too early? This is nothing but political and everyone knows it.
If ole Kwame & Co. push this bullshit and it somehow flies. FOP ought to push for EVERY criminal "under charged" or "under sentenced" (which is about 99% in Crook County) to be re-sentenced.
And if that's refused, they ought to file habeas corpus in Federal Court to free JVD based upon malicious prosecution, arbitrary and capricious enforcement of the law, and a denial of JVD his Civil Rights to a fair trial with an impartial Jury, his Right not to be discriminated against because of his Race, Gender, and Employment Status as a Law Enforcement Officer.
The FOP ought to TELL Kwame, et. al this in no-uncertain terms NOW so the fucks can't feign surprise when they get sued after pulling this final 'pander to da communitie' move.
Kwame, Kimisha, Toni, Dart....if these aren't enough reason for all the hard chargers to stop doing anything, then you deserve what you get. Fetal is the way to go. Recently, I was asked to fill in on the desk for a few days, as someone was on the medical. Rarely have I ever worked it, but it I have to tell you, it wasn’t bad. Think about it if you get the opportunity.,
Well clearly it wasn’t the first shot that killed him if he was still moving on the ground....
The dear old Uncle is not even a blood relative the assailant. Tina wants it over because the longer it goes on the more the Dear old non blood Uncle says where is my piece. Kuami should ask the Supreme Court for clarification on the donations he received from the Solis shell companies that hit the news yesterday as well.
Then let's looks at everyone's sentence and do the same
Keep doing police work idiots see where it gets you!!
Well clearly it wasn’t the first shot that killed him if he was still moving on the ground....
2/12/2019 03:18:00 AM
Well clearly Kojack, hard sucking on that lollipop has limited the oxygen traveling to your brain. A fatal wound does not necessarily cause an immediate death.
Have the Supreme Court review that one charge per shot nonsense while you're at it.
So when someone gets shot 6 times but doesn’t die do we charge the offender with 6 counts? Or only if they are white.
Why don’t kwame step in and get rid of that boob Kim Foxx?
If he really wants to put a bite on crime, go after all those that Foxx refuses felony charges on.
Could work in his favor for a retrial
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Just when you thought it was safe to start Policing? Now this?!
Let the games begin.
Anonymous said...
Go ahead and resentence so the defense can appeal and have the whole case eventually thrown out. What did we do to deserve another garbage AG?
2/12/2019 12:34:00 AM
He was voted in!! Everyone knew what his agenda was going to be before the election and he got in anyway. This is what happens when you don't vote or vote straight party. We need to wake up and it all starts with the mayor's race. Vote who is best for US.
Let Kwame the Commie's actions forewarn you about what will happen if Preckwinkle gets elected.
Tip of the iceberg.
That's what the left does, keep pushing until they get the outcome they want, whether it is just or not.
Kwame is an agenda driven racist and is practicing pure, unadulterated racial politics.
What the CPD and Cook County States Attorneys Office did to JVD makes me sick to my stomach.
SCC-Everyday another bullseye! You should be required reading at every roll call!
You are building an entire force of Reality Police. Thank God you have so many faithful readers!
You are doing Chicago a big public service-Thanks!
AG = FU
If the case comes back to Gaughn he can vacate the jury’s verdict on each of the Agg.Batt counts, then give him anything below the 81 months he originally gave him. What would be justice for the AG and this slippery move on their part would be to now acquit JVD of all the nonsensical Agg.Batts- and give him probation on the Second degree and send him home to his family.
Both Kwame and McMahon are major league assholes.
McMahon self admittedly was ok with Gauhn’s sentence when it was handed down.
Then Kwame, LaQuan’s uncle and all the other “activists” went to work on him to get him to flip.
This whole thing is disgusting and nauseating and if it’s not racist then I don’t know what racist is.
Want to review inappropriate criminal sentences?
How about the woman who dropped a baby 8 floors to its death and got PROBATION! !
Maybe they should appeal. You have the sugar tax queen’s campaign commercial stating that it basically was her that got him convicted by forcing evidence to be released before the trial, which tainted the jury pool. How about all the city workers that put wanted posters of Van Dyke all over, including, their vehicles, that were parked by such heavily attended events as the billiken parade. That sure tainted the jury pool. How about all the tv commercials that we’re airing every eight minutes, showing the criminal martyr walking down Pulaski road, brandishing a knife. That didn’t taint the jury pool! How about all the white shirts that were not allowed to be subpoenaed to prove that they declared it a lawful shooting? You could go on and on, the mayor so afraid of losing control, started the unnecessary cover up, payoff and making the Police the problem. It all comes down to a white Policeman shooting a person of color, lawful or not, it’s Chicago values. The only ones to benifit from this concocted mess are the politicians, reverends, community activists, news media and shit stirrers. It’s the Chicago way!
Some big wig politican is pushing somebody to get his sentence extended!
SCC, I think you have a great point about the charging by the shot. Gaughan might have recognized the problem here too.
Equal protection. Are they charging black people like this? Hispanics? Black officers? Hispanic officers? How about women?
If its a single instance, than basically by definition its an equal protection violation I think, and a federal court would presumably undo whatever a cook county judge does in a heartbeat.
I'd laugh if Gaughan revisited the verdict and found JVD not guilty of agg batt and gave him probation on the 2nd degree murder charge. VG knows the law and doesn't like being told what to do.
my problem is this:
A cop mistakenly believes he has the right to use deadly force, but the jury finds that belief unreasonable. Reasonableness is required for a shot in self-defense to be justifiable.
2nd degree murder takes account of the mental state. It mitigates a 1st degree murder charge in that it distinguishes between a guy who #1 just goes out and kills someone from #2 a guy who is defending life, but admittedly, unreasonably, with an excessive amount of force. It is an applicable statute, 2nd degree murder is.
Agg Batt with a firearm has no mitigating statute. It equates #1 a gangbanger who just goes out and shoots someone and #2 a well-intentioned CCL holder who is trying to defend his person, though unreasonably. Same same right? No, not the same.
So how in the hell can the state charge Agg. Batt w/ a firearm for this? But they did, and there was hardly an argument by Dan Herbert regarding which shot killed Laquan. He should have harped from the beginning of the trial to the end of the trial about the state not being able to prove which shot caused death. I know there was some testimony about not being sure which shot caused death, but that witness should have been cross examined for hours, and the point really driven home. I don't think this was the case. I don't think this lack of proof was mentioned in closing arguments either. It should have been talked about for at least an hour, so the jury would understand the importance. You think the jury really went back into the jury room thinking "ya, they really can't say which shout killed him, so how can we charge 9 counts of agg batt?" I doubt it. I doubt they even understood the issue. Terrible, Absolutely terrible.
"Well clearly it wasn’t the first shot that killed him if he was still moving on the ground...."
Well clearly you have never killed anything.
Don't force continuum rules allow for deadly force when perp has a deadly weapon within a certain range of your person?
In the mean time, keep running, chasing, searching and arresting dumb fucks.
All it takes is ONE MISTAKE. Then you exchange your blue uniform for an orange one.
Anonymous said...
Go ahead and resentence so the defense can appeal and have the whole case eventually thrown out. What did we do to deserve another garbage AG?
2/12/2019 12:34:00 AM
Cook County voted him in.
It's very sad. Who is this idiot to do this? The others let everyone else go. People with felonies are given no sentence, light sentences, etc.
Certainly, the big cities, Demon-crat controlled states are a cesspool of garbage and debt, but cry to Washington when they don't get shared revenue.
Gotta even up the black & white prison numbers, huh. Income inequality. Prison equality.
I wonder if those who killed your officers will get the same re-sentencing reviews. I kinda doubt it.
Very, very sad.
The McDonald family got their $$$Ghetto Lottery check and they are done with this case. Their beloved son was a no good worthless drugged up goof and they were lucky to cash in on him. What a great deal. No more idiot Laquan to deal with and a boat load of cash. Can't beat that with a night stick!
They can ask for a longer sentence but unless the judge did not follow the sentencing guidelines the courts and the legislature have put in place it is unlikely the request goes anywhere.
It could have been a much longer sentence. The judge went easy on him, as such things go.
This is likely just political posturing.
I can see it: ACLU and Remington form joint venture to manufacture numbered bullets for law enforcement. Marvel and Fox sue, claiming they stole the idea from Deadpool.
Bent on the movement of anti police and restorative justice by following the leader.
JB jagbag is no different.
Gaughan will likely retire before they launch him off to traffic court.
I don’t think he’ll allow to be upstaged even though he caved to political pressure and likely IL Sup Ct won’t be bothered.
oKwama Rattool definitely not a public speaker like some other hack from kenwoods.
Listening to him it’s no wonder he never couldn’t find work in the private sector considering that law degree scholarship.
Dumb as a box of rocks like KmmmFxxxUp both never sat in on a simplest of trials.
Who wrote, prepped and coached him for press conference, McMahon?
Shithole Cook County Chicago - keeps getting what the masses voted for.
Stay Fetal please.
Fuck the FOP they do nothing but take your dues and give them to the democrats, Kwame got some of your money!!
Remember that when you talk about how fucking good the FOP is!
FOP= Fucking Over Police!
Dear ABC Chicago, Due to your hiring three relatives of Chicago politicians, I shall no longer watch your news shows, and I've been watching since Fahey Flynn.
A word to all of the voters, in reading the Slum Times and Fibune endorsements, for Alderthief I noted that a great number of endorsements referenced various candidates support of affordable housing.
Particularly in their endorsements of Heneghan and Arena both papers extolled the various affordable housing bonafides of these men.
Think of that when you spend money to buy a paper.
Think of that when a reporter calls looking for info.
Think of that when those trucks blow red lights on the West Side at 4 a.m.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Kwame, Kimisha, Toni, Dart....if these aren't enough reason for all the hard chargers to stop doing anything, then you deserve what you get. Fetal is the way to go. Recently, I was asked to fill in on the desk for a few days, as someone was on the medical. Rarely have I ever worked it, but it I have to tell you, it wasn’t bad. Think about it if you get the opportunity.,
2/12/2019 01:44:00 AM
Anonymous
The desk never was bad
And if that's refused, they ought to file habeas corpus in Federal Court to free JVD based upon malicious prosecution, arbitrary and capricious enforcement of the law, and a denial of JVD his Civil Rights to a fair trial with an impartial Jury, his Right not to be discriminated against because of his Race, Gender, and Employment Status as a Law Enforcement Officer.
The FOP ought to TELL Kwame, et. al this in no-uncertain terms NOW so the fucks can't feign surprise when they get sued after pulling this final 'pander to da communitie' move.
2/12/2019 01:35:00 AM
I’m sure they are shaking in their boots with the thought of FOP filing a lawsuit against them
Not a peep from the FOP
Here s the rub. All these pols are “dancing” to all the communities grievances. Right? Wrong? They want their votes and will offer anything for said votes. They have sold their souls . They are unwilling to address the genocide in their communities. They have failed to keep people safe. They will continue to attack the police , while civilized society crumbles
Drew Peterson is an asshole, but they made up an exception to the hearsay law just to convict him and him alone. I am not aware of any other situation where this exception has been applied to charge or convict any other person
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Anonymous said...
Go ahead and resentence so the defense can appeal and have the whole case eventually thrown out. What did we do to deserve another garbage AG?
2/12/2019 12:34:00 AM
The defense just filed an appeal. Be careful for what you wish. If the case is overturned and there is a new trial anything can happen. This is Cook County and just look who is getting elected. VD could be found guilting again and get a much longer sentence. Hopefully he would be acquired
Problem in Cook County is that these idiots that are being elected ran on these platforms and were elected. It’s not that they surprised anyone after they were elected. That’s what is scary
Kwame Raul is a Madigan puppet who is just pandering for votes
2/12/2019 12:11:00 AM
Jerry Joyce is a Madigan shill to split votes from Vallas. Joyce has 0 chance of winning, he's getting his money from Madigan for thise commercials that are neant to appeal to firs first responders only. Think and vote Vallas
Where is Mike Royko?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Well clearly it wasn’t the first shot that killed him if he was still moving on the ground....
Hey Inspector Clouseau... I shot a deer with a 20 gauge slug and he dropped like a brick... One shot! Then he twitched for a minute or two... He was dead, he just didn't know it!
Idiot...
OT Just googled Illinois per capita debt very interesting. A politician recently said the budget shortfall this year was $1000 per personally in Illinois. Not bad you first think then the article looks at the whole debt picture and calculates the per capita debt for actual taxpayers at $66,000 per person. So a household with a working mother and father and 2 children would owe $264,000. By the time a ten year old starts his or her career that $66,000 will more than double. Couple that with the student loan debt and they will never be able to own a home and very lucky to be able to afford a car. Better get out now before the Democrats institute a citizen leaving tax. Even better news the University of Illinois just named Chicago the most corrupt city in US and Illinois as fourth most corrupt state. But your in good Democratic company NYC and LA were numbers 2 & 3 in corrupt cities. Those democrats sure know how to rule.
OT just read what Sheriff John Kirk in Kentucky told his towns residents when forced to drastically downsize his policing efforts due to severe budget cuts. LOCK YOUR DOORS,GET A GUN And A BARKING BITING DOG, YOUR ON YOUR OWN NOW. The future of CPD in Chicago I am afraid.
I thought incarceration was to protect society from
criminals. How is Van Dyk going to hurt anyone ?
Sounds like punishment ! If that’s true, then let’s
throw rehabilitation out the window and punish al
convicted people’s/folks.
If Obama had a son who was an attorney general.
It dawned on me late but had the city defended the civil suit, Van Dyke would have almost certainly been afforded qualified immunity for the shooting. So in a forum with a lesser burden of proof he would not be liable for the conduct. But in a forum with the highest burden of proof he is liable.
At least this looks like it might end well
https://cookcountyrecord.com/stories/511764814-three-cops-on-scene-of-laquan-mcdonald-killing-ok-to-press-claims-city-denied-due-process-rights-judge
Please, please, please stop commenting that the FOP should do this or that. FOP collects your dues, that's it.
Had a lot of cases with Judge Gaughan, I thought he ran a good court.
A lot of coppers didn't like the fact that he started on time.
0900 meant 0900.
While he was strict, a tight case got a conviction.
A lousy case got tossed.
As for Judge Hooks, the only time we won, was when my partner testified,(Former Military).
We would ask the ASA to bring it up in the introductions, and Hooks would suddenly become interested. It should'nt have mattered, but it did.
G Night Squad
Prayers. Again.
Maybe it's too early but our former Commander in Chief sure made it both easy and acceptable to disrespect law enforcement with this being the end result.
https://nypost.com/2019/02/12/2-nypd-cops-shot-in-queens-t-mobile-store/
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Not a peep from the FOP
2/12/2019 03:38:00 PM
They can't be bothered. Thay are too busy planning golf outings and barbecues, or colluding with the city to get their next promotion, or bump to detective. F-ing useless.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Kwame Raul is a Madigan puppet who is just pandering for votes
2/12/2019 12:11:00 AM
Jerry Joyce is a Madigan shill to split votes from Vallas. Joyce has 0 chance of winning, he's getting his money from Madigan for thise commercials that are neant to appeal to firs first responders only. Think and vote Vallas
2/12/2019 04:55:00 PM
Bullshit... go spread you lies elsewhere you whore. Joyce HAS NOTHING to do with Madigan, I know, I grew up with him.
You go not for Paul and his broom, that is fine - it will not matter. To broke.
No need to spread lies as a last ditch effort.
It does happen in Cook County. Grand Jury indictments are returned on agg battery firearm & attempt murder charged by bullet, multiplied by # of victims.
Three bullets/two victims = 6 charges of attempt murder in addition to agg batt charged by the # of bullets that struck victim.
Not sure about Murder/Agg batt. I can't see it being much different.
This sure sounds racist to me. They seem to be appealing only because it is a white police officer. When has the Attorney General or prosecutors ever appealed a light sentence given to a black person who has killed anyone of any color? It is only because of the racial aspect. Wake up people and be fetal.
We should have judges, attorneys, ACLU, black lives matter, pandering politicians and other leftists on call so we can call them 24/7 for all the answers they have as to how to be the police. Even though none of them have walked a mile in our shoes.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT just read what Sheriff John Kirk in Kentucky told his towns residents when forced to drastically downsize his policing efforts due to severe budget cuts. LOCK YOUR DOORS,GET A GUN And A BARKING BITING DOG, YOUR ON YOUR OWN NOW. The future of CPD in Chicago I am afraid.
Each district in Chicago has more police in its front office and CAPS office than his department has officers. Don’t be afraid , your talking apples and oranges, no comparison
Saw the post from the FOP treasurer, must be worried many of you might opt out paying for nothing. You now have the legal right to stop dues being deducted from your checks. Your getting nothing so why should they get your money.
Keep working Boys and Girls! Still have idiots volunteering for tact teams.
Kwami says it isn’t political. It sure looks it. It also looks vindictive and, dare I say it...RACIAL. Kwami may believe that his late entry into Laquan’s case (ya can’t get any later than showing up after the verdict) may catapult him into Dick Durban’s Senate seat. And as for McMahon.....he may announce for statewide office using Van Dyke as a springboard. No one at any Chicago will ask these guys about their aspirations. How come?
Just write paper but my inks out of Pen
Hey Hey Ho Ho F.O.P. has got to go!
I'll say this again and again,don't foot chase,don't car chase,don't stop anyone. Just answer the radio and go to your calls. Be safe and God Bless
I laugh at all these batman, chasing cars,foot chasing, and stopping human's. Learn from JVD and CPD will fuck you big time!!!!!
Well clearly you have never killed anything.
2/12/2019 09:46:00 AM
Do spiders count?
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