Sunday, February 03, 2019

Off Duty Found Deceased

Too much misinformation in all the papers so far this morning - person in custody, person not in custody, etc. Deep breath, step back, let the investigation proceed.

Prayers for the officer and her co-workers.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's keep that officer and her family in prayer during these challenging times. Brothers and Sisters, we need to pray for one another because we know that not many people have our backs or care about the problems we face.

God Bless all public servants and I do believe that it takes a special kind of person to be a police officer or fireman/firewoman.

2/03/2019 06:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Old Guy said...

RIP officer

2/03/2019 06:24:00 AM  
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...

It would be really sad if this was another case of domestic violence.

2/03/2019 07:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Think Fat Head will assign an army of dicks over why were killing ourselves at a record rate?

2/03/2019 08:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope this gets the same kind of resources as the Jussie shit show does.

2/03/2019 08:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

R.I.P. Sister, praying for the strength of her family during this terrible time!

2/03/2019 08:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I’m stunned.

2/03/2019 08:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Sgt from News Affairs was on scene and still fucked in up.

2/03/2019 09:17:00 AM  
Blogger Mark2462 said...

May she Rest in Peace. Thanks for your service officer.

2/03/2019 10:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CPD needs help, one is a tragedy too many. This is becoming an epidemic.

2/03/2019 01:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Prayers for her family and co-workers...

2/03/2019 02:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rest in peace. This is very heartbreaking. She will be missed.

2/03/2019 02:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

RIP

2/03/2019 03:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Heart breaking. God bless each of you and your families. May he hold you in his arms and walk with you every moment of everyday. May this officer join God in heaven and their family find peace in their broken hearts.

Many many thanks for all of you. You really do mean a great deal to each of us. So many support you! Sadly, we’re not in CPD leadership. Abundant prayers with equal gratitude.

2/03/2019 03:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We need to find out why this I happening.

2/03/2019 03:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
The Sgt from News Affairs was on scene and still fucked in up.

They have like 25 sworn assigned there. You would think they could find one to do it right

2/03/2019 03:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Citizen Richard said...

Anonymous said...

Think Fat Head will assign an army of dicks over why were killing ourselves at a record rate?

2/03/2019 08:18:00 AM

No, you need to be a leftist minority from Hollywood to garner that kind of attention.
There should be a dedicated unit to look into these too often lately police officer deaths.
R.I.P mam, you are no longer in Illinois!

2/03/2019 04:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rest In Peace, Sgt. We will miss you in 012.

2/03/2019 04:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not sure who it is, or what were the circumstances, underlying and otherwise, but as a 40 year retired CPD veteran, my heart still goes out to my brothers and sisters on the job.
May God bless you, sir or madam.
Find peace knowing that you are not alone. We will keep you in our thoughts and prayers.
Amen

2/03/2019 04:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

God bless!

2/03/2019 04:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

God bless this Officer, May he or she RIP.

2/03/2019 05:08:00 PM  
Blogger LakeCountyres said...

From a non- LEO, suburban resident:

Thank you, CPD (and all LEO), for what you do.
You are appreciated.


2/03/2019 05:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

R.I.P officer, prayers to the entire CPD at this difficult time.

2/03/2019 06:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My wife who doesn’t follow any police stuff at all said to me today “what is going on with all the cop suicides? You guys have a real problem and it seems like nobody cares to do anything about it.”
I was telling how the job has become so different. That the bosses now only care about their stats and not looking bad at comstat (which I believe comstat has absolutely destroyed this department). That there’s no forgiving any mistakes anymore. A split second decision can cause you to lose your job and freedom. Then all the lawsuits cops face these days for just trying to do their job. The stress is real and it absolutely wears you down.

2/03/2019 06:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not again. God please watch over her and her family. Please seek help. Or insurance covers it.

2/03/2019 06:56:00 PM  
Blogger T G said...

Many civilians back you. RIP.

2/03/2019 07:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let us pray for each other

2/03/2019 07:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So sad

My prayers to the family and all of you.

2/03/2019 08:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Praying for her and all of you. I am so sorry. You all have a hard job in this current climate, God bless her. Rest in peace

2/03/2019 08:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No, the clouted pricks need help. The officers are doing the best they can with the current circumstances.

2/03/2019 10:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don’t watch the news! What did News Affairs do to fuck it up ? And who was the sgt in news affairs ?

2/04/2019 12:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
We need to find out why this I happening.

2/03/2019 03:38:00 PM

Constant demonization from the media and a toxic environment within the CPD leads to alienation from the public and your peers which leads to isolation. You got to have something to look forward to in life that makes you happy and when being in an uncomfortable situation becomes routine it gets tiresome. If you have a lot of time on, resigning and getting a new job is out of the question due to years of dealing with BS on the CPD.

2/04/2019 12:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whatever it is that is bothering you is not worth dying over. If it is the job, remember it is just a job and there are plenty of jobs out there. If it is your spouse or significant other they can be replaced as well. But dead is permanent

2/04/2019 01:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't remember this happening years ago, at least nobody that I knew. There were some who drank themselves to death, maybe that was a form of depression. I can remember loving to come to work most of the time because of the good officers and bosses and dreading it when you had a bad boss. In those times everyone for the most part was together and united against the criminal element. Now the job has changed from what I hear from people working now and from what I read. Now police officers are under tremendous pressure from upper management on getting stats, but not making mistakes, pressure from the news media, pressure from an uncaring and misinformed public, pressure from political leaders & religious leaders pandering to their bases. Left wing pressure groups like BLM, ACLU and others. Judges, State's Attorneys, Attorney Generals and judges that now ascribe to to the new left's way of thinking. The politicians want to pander to the new left and you represent the old way of thinking and it is better to keep the pressure on the "bad police" so the public wont see all the political corruption. Now a police officer has to write report after report to justify their behavior. They are tracked by GPS, car cameras, body carmeras, cameras on the public way all the while putting up with the taunts of the shitheads. Always worrying that one mistake could cause you to be suspended, fired or put in prison. Can you imagine any other profession that has to deal with all this? Take for example the medical profession, they kill more people each year than the police do. Now both do not do it intentionally. It's by mistakes and human error. But the medical profession is not held to the same standard as the police are. They are viewed as the good guys, the police represent repression. Do you think the medical people would wear body cameras to catch their errors? Not a chance. Years ago the police would go to the "stress reduction centers" usually by the stations to de-stress with each other. But now you can't do that because you might de-stress too much and then get in to trouble. I believe today's police officers believe they are alone, fighting a losing battle and not backed up by the Police Department, the City and the public. So now the fuel is there and when there are problems at home, domestic, monetary, illiness et. al., this is the match that ignites the journey to the end.

2/04/2019 02:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please tell me this wasn't another suicide.... none of us needs that, if your in a dark place, please talk to someone, your partner, a good friend, your significant other.... whoever. We all know none of the departments have proper CARING help available.... but talk to someone, that's not the answer!

2/04/2019 05:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
My wife who doesn’t follow any police stuff at all said to me today “what is going on with all the cop suicides? You guys have a real problem and it seems like nobody cares to do anything about it.”
I was telling how the job has become so different. That the bosses now only care about their stats and not looking bad at comstat (which I believe comstat has absolutely destroyed this department). That there’s no forgiving any mistakes anymore. A split second decision can cause you to lose your job and freedom. Then all the lawsuits cops face these days for just trying to do their job. The stress is real and it absolutely wears you down.

2/03/2019 06:44:00 PM

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agreed bosses are no longer leaders, they are just pooches looking forward to an increased pension hiding in the ivory tower. The game is over, make a mistake and you will be dragged by the bus run over by the bus, etc. Why? Tell my one fucking reason why. We are humping to lock up juveniles because we have to - we have those cases - but why? WTF is the purpose, they are out on suspended sentences and probation in the blink of an eye, all the while laughing at the absolute clown shown that is juvenile court. I agree kids fuck up and they should nt be ruined for life for that - for, say a shoplifing or tagging or such nonsense, but for sticking a gun in a female's face, taking her shit + her car then eluding police afterward, crashing the car. Fuck that. These are fucking animals. In no society in mankind's history would there be tolerance ... As I've said , the game is OVER.

2/04/2019 06:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While I didn't know you extremely well, I did know you were a class act. You were far too smart and pretty to be on this Godforsaken job. Oftentimes, its difficult to digest all of the violence we've been witness to. I only learned of your promotion yesterday. I simply can't bear to open my Dept. email to read another thoughtless paragraph from a "Leader" who just doesn't get it. You were much like a Mom to the 1st Watch misfits in #610, lol. Your baking skills were beyond stellar and you were always generous with your latest creations. The obvious stresses from years ago were well hidden and you always bore a pleasant smile. It must've been your S.Side upbringing. :) But now, although what's done is done, I still wish I knew you better. Wish I knew how to help you. Wish I knew what was eating away at you. I would've dropped everything and run to your side, no matter the time of day/night, to give you a shoulder to lean on. I know for a fact that MANY would have done the same. I'll bet that given just one extra day, just one, you would have made a different choice. I will be praying for your Soul, Lori. Godspeed! I will end my post here. That ridiculous email is no doubt waiting for me. How appropriate that it will rain today.

2/04/2019 08:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

May the souls of the faithful departed Rest In Peace. Lord have mercy on her soul and I pray that he comforts her family. The stress of this job is real. Seek help.

2/04/2019 08:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not a CPD officer, but I've been blessed in the past to work with some of you while I was in another city agency. I know your jobs are difficult, I know they are thankless, and I know you are under attack at all times from the public, the media, the travesty that is COPA, and often times the worst...faceless internet trolls.

But despite this, I want you all to know that there are still people out there who love you all, respect and appreciate your sacrifice, and want to see you all come home safe to your family and loved ones at the end of the day.

I want to avoid a platitude, and offer more than my thoughts and prayers because something drove this poor soul to take a permanent solution to a temporary problem. I didn't know them, I didn't know their circumstances, and I didn't know their challenges, but I believe in them and want to help.

So SCC community, I will offer a challenge that comes with a promise, because one blue death is too many, and I care. Find or setup a hotline that these officers in distress can call to talk to SOMEONE who cares, wants to listen to them, not judge them, and will try and get them the help they need, and I will be there to answer the phone and hopefully prevent another tragedy like this.

By no means am I saying the thin blue line is failing its own because that's not a claim I am qualified nor would ever make, but I think what you really need to hear support and validation from the kind of people you took this job to protect and serve.

Thinking of you all, god bless and stay safe.

2/04/2019 08:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CPD could use those 25 assigned to news affairs and other inside assignments back in Districts.

2/04/2019 09:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

 If it is the job, remember it is just a job and there are plenty of jobs out there.

For me it is the job. I've been looking and applying. I have a degree but I don't know the magic words to get through the HR wall. So I continue to work this crap police job in Hope's of getting out.

2/04/2019 10:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
We need to find out why this I happening.

2/03/2019 03:38:00 PM

We will never find out why. Each case is different. Some marital problems, some financial problems, some problems on the job, who knows

2/04/2019 12:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

RIP to whoever this officer is. I would never judge somebody but I never want to see this happen to anybody either. We have a lot of asshole bosses on this job, even asshole coworkers, but there’s plenty of really good people that would do anything for you. If anyone else is in distress and reading this, just know that You are not alone. The only thing you have to do is pick up the phone and talk. I’m really tempted to post my name and number but the problem is people not reaching out. You matter whoever you are. you will be missed by so many people and that’s not fair. Even if life is sucking, think of it is your duty to live for the people that care about you. We really need to figure this out.

2/04/2019 12:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

EAP can help use it it saved my life from drinking myself to death, it’s the same as suicide

2/04/2019 01:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ladies and gents, realizing the stuff you face every day has a corrosive effect on your lives and perspective, i'd offer this for your consideration. Its something my FTO drilled into me and what I shared when I worked with PPO'S. The job should be nothing more than 8 hours of work to help you support your family and satisfy your financial obligations. Nothing more. The only people who understand you and what you see and feel every day are other police. Do everything you can to leave the job once you leave the station.

Its not the answer for everything, but something I'd remind myself of when I had a rough day. As trained observers, over time you'll notice the quality of your victims have deteriorated almost as much as your offenders. Don't get yourself hurt over either of them.

2/04/2019 01:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

White shirt here. Just waiting to turn 55. Get to 55 and get out.

2/04/2019 01:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sadly, once again...💔

R.I.P. Praying for all.

Signed,
Mom of a cop

2/04/2019 02:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
I don’t watch the news! What did News Affairs do to fuck it up ? And who was the sgt in news affairs ?

2/04/2019 12:16:00 AM

Sgt. Al Stinites said it was a "domestic-related incident" and the suspect was in custody. (It was in the Tribune and ST, so his name is out there.

You go to News Affairs, your name is written out on here.

Update from Trib at noon:

The Cook County medical examiner's office has declined to rule, for now, on whether the death of an off-duty Chicago police officer found shot to death in a West Side alley was an accident, suicide or homicide...

"Prelim investigation reveals possible self-inflicted gunshot wound," police tweeted Sunday. "Detectives have classified this as a death investigation as we investigate the circumstances leading up to the shooting & await confirmation & additional info from the medical examiner."

But after the autopsy, the medical examiner said the cause and matter of death were both pending further investigation. No other details were released.

2/04/2019 03:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My deepest condolensces.

There is a lot of help out there, no doubt, but we need something local and similar. This a veteran helping veterans. He is someone that can relate. He can talk about the environment, fights he was in, and other related matter.

I don't have the field experience to relate to most officers on CPD, otherwise, I would volunteer to be a mentor.

https://wgntv.com/category/news/chicagos-very-own/

2/04/2019 05:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You all know why this is happening. It all starts with City Hall and runs down hill.
Your leaders have failed you on all levels. Hanger that and you will see some moral improvement. Hateful leadership and condescending top level management has put in this trick bag. Less then ten hang it up while you have your sanity. Over 15 leave at 20 with a reduced pension. Over 20 walk away. Move to a red state life will get better. If for whatever reason get help if your having any issues such real and treatable.

2/04/2019 05:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For me it is the job. I've been looking and applying. I have a degree but I don't know the magic words to get through the HR wall. So I continue to work this crap police job in Hope's of getting out.
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CPD has a horrible reputation right now. maybe they need to get to know you better. It is hard for all of us to get past the HR wall. You need to network and find where the job is and start with the hiring manager and let him or her run interference with HR for you.

i can tell you this for sure. Emailing your resume to HR departments is about the worst way to find employment. get on linkedin. start by just reading the many articles there on finding employment and going thru the jobs available thru that site alone. lots of other job sites as well on the Internet.

There are many online resources that can help you do this.

You could also look to other city government jobs. You might have to take a bit of a salary hit, but your life and your sanity is worth it.

ever consider things like retail store management? not real hard to get into their management programs, especially if you have a degree they want. a walmart store manager is around $135k. it is moderately stressful, but a lot less than you are feeling now.

what degree do you have? something not especially useful won't do you a lot of good. poly-sci, police and fire, security, psysh, social work, sociology, gender studies, etc., just are not going to cut it most places. but a solid business, management. math, science, or technology degree is really worth something.

2/04/2019 06:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't believe it. It was a pleasure being your Sgt. I always appreciated your hard work at the JISC. I just wish you would have told someone about what was troubling you. May God hold you in his arms.Rest in peace Lori.

2/04/2019 08:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

RIP. Can't wait to retire from CPD. When I first came on, I use to love this job. As time goes on, I don't anymore !

2/04/2019 10:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3 more year's!!!!!!

2/04/2019 10:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Www.bluehelp.org. Look into these guys. They are working to break the stigma, Help LE, and bring awareness and education to officers and families.

2/04/2019 11:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

math, science, or technology degree is really worth something.

Actually get IT certifications it's how I got out of law enforcement. Very happy now.
But I also left cpd first and went to the burbs.

2/05/2019 03:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what degree do you have?

IT, might have had a breakthrough today. Two interviews coming up and all out of IL thankfully.

2/05/2019 05:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't foot chase,don't car chase,don't stop anyone. Just answer the radio and go to your calls. This is a new police department. The old days of law enforcement are gone. Be safe and God Bless!

2/05/2019 06:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For me it is the job. I've been looking and applying. I have a degree but I don't know the magic words to get through the HR wall. So I continue to work this crap police job in Hope's of getting out.

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CPD has a horrible reputation right now. . .

2/04/2019 06:35:00 PM

I’d like to reemphasize these points that were made in the above comment:

- You need to network . . .
- Emailing your resume to HR departments is about the worst way to find employment.
- You might have to take a bit of a salary hit, but your life and your sanity is worth it.
- . . . a solid business, management, math, science, or technology degree is really worth something

Here’s an outline of an approach to consider.

NETWORKING. If you’re serious about moving on from the department, the first thing you have to do is let your friends and family know that you’re looking for a new job. This is absolutely critical in the transitioning process. Many people have an understanding of the stresses of the job and will want to help you once you’ve informed them that you started a job search.

RESUME. I’ve assisted many people in their job search by helping them develop a solid resume. Many of them didn’t fully realize their skills and talents. They also had a lot of difficulty in writing a concise narrative of their work experience and knowledge base.

But after interviewing them (after many hours & over a number of days) I was able to extract the value-added components of their work history, and present it in a form that highlighted their most significant strengths.

Have your resume reviewed by someone to make sure that your greatest strengths are being emphasized, and that it's clear and easy to read. Someone with experience hiring/interviewing would be a great help.

Try to stay away from listing the job responsibilities of a PO, and instead list the talents/skills/achievements that you've acquired to improve yourself or your work environment.

JOB SEARCH. To effectively find a job (outside of your network contacts), you need to know what you want to do. The more precise, the better.

As you search through listings and you find something appealing, you need to develop the wording of your resume around the responsibilities & requirements of the job. You need to make it look like you’re an excellent fit.

Use as many words as you can from the responsibilities & requirements of the job, and incorporate those same words into your resume. This process is called word-matching – a process of electronically scanning your resume against the words in the job listing, to see how many words match. The higher the match score, the more likely you are to be contacted.

I hope this information helps you. Maybe this isn’t the appropriate thread to offer job search advice, but after reading your comment, and the responding comment, I felt that I had to do something. Even if it’s just job searching tips.

2/05/2019 01:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No offense to all the guys that want to leave and all their posts about resumes,networking blah,blah,but this is a post about an officer who's passed away.Not everything revolves around you.

2/05/2019 05:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Use as many words as you can from the responsibilities & requirements of the job, and incorporate those same words into your resume. This process is called word-matching – a process of electronically scanning your resume against the words in the job listing, to see how many words match. The higher the match score, the more likely you are to be contacted.

I hope this information helps you. Maybe this isn’t the appropriate thread to offer job search advice, but after reading your comment, and the responding comment, I felt that I had to do something. Even if it’s just job searching tips.

2/05/2019 01:30:00 PM

Some good points, but certain things affect a job interview after you have been a police officer. They frown upon it. Most ask say if you have a business degree why didn’t you get a job in business right out of college. You evidently didn’t want business as a career. Second, they can hire a younger person for less money that can be trained easier. Years out of college and a not having a job in your major do not build a resume. Also with some degrees you have to return to school as the major evolves and changes. Say in nursing, you can’t get a degree in nursing , raise a family for 29 years and not work, then decide to be a nurse and expect to be hired. In 20 years or 10 years nursing has changed and you haven’t kept up with it. Hospitals want the new nursing graduate who are up to date on the latest techniques and advances in medicine

2/05/2019 07:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rest In Peace my sister in blue! You were a wonderful person, friend to all
and always lit up the room with that infectious laugh. I’m honored to have known
you and to have called you my friend. I will never forget you and all the laughs we had in class.
You were a class act and a good police officer! God Bless you and your family and everyone affected by your passing away. Until we meet again, have fun in paradise! 🙏💙

2/05/2019 09:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rip

2/06/2019 09:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Worked with her in Area One. Good Detective. Always cheerful and engaging. Hell of a baker too. Would bring cakes in all the time. R.I.P. Lori.

2/06/2019 10:37:00 PM  
Blogger Valkyrie said...

Dear Brothers and Sisters in blue...
Go out there and be awesome. If you don’t feel you can be awesome, be adequate.
And if right now you can’t be adequate — please be alive one more minute...
And breathe. Please breathe. One breath at a time. Inhale — exhale. Repeat.
Talk to someone, until someone listens. Ask for a hug.
Don’t hold on to BS or pettiness — let all the stuff (that’s not even yours) go.
Another breath. Another day. Another hug.

2/07/2019 07:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Many of these suicides have nothing to do with CPD. Most causes are divorce, money problems, health problems, kids, marital problems, etc. There’s a lot of stress outside the job

2/07/2019 07:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

for some of you working on the ghetto , leave and come to good north side district
i did and best decision i ever made plus i still work and do the job

2/08/2019 01:19:00 PM  

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