Not Going to End Well
This is a particularly bad idea (click for larger version):
As predicted by numerous readers not too long ago, they are going to start keeping track of when you point your weapon. Soon it will be when you unholster it. And after that, they will attempt to dictate, via some psychic process, exactly when and how you will be "authorized" to unholster, display and point your weapon - in essence, when THEY feel your life might be in danger....and not when YOU feel your life is in danger.
Some pencil pusher who never worked the street in the dark, answering a radio and responding to shots fired in a dark alley, will arm-chair Monday-morning quarterback you to suspension time and firing. Anyone want to bet there's already an internal directive floating around the "Force Review Unit" attempting to catch officers with unholstered weapons on body cam? Those officers will be undergoing counseling and retraining (before being fired) starting very soon.
Some pencil pusher who never worked the street in the dark, answering a radio and responding to shots fired in a dark alley, will arm-chair Monday-morning quarterback you to suspension time and firing. Anyone want to bet there's already an internal directive floating around the "Force Review Unit" attempting to catch officers with unholstered weapons on body cam? Those officers will be undergoing counseling and retraining (before being fired) starting very soon.
Labels: department issues, dumb ideas
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
122 Comments:
So glad I’m nearing the finish line. What a joke.
The sky is the limit for jamming up officers by way of the Force Review Unit as long as CKS is there. Thanks again, Mr. Fenner.
There is a perfectly valid reason for this directive. In July 2020, and every year forever and ever, some "data analyst" can provide the race-baiting, bottom-feeding, political blowhards with the "proof" they need: officers "point" their weapons disproportionately at black people.
Soooo glad I'm almost done. I feel for you new guys. The bad guy with his weapon out and ready while you're still be wondering if its ok to pull your weapon out. Looks like it up to Chicago's CCLs to keep this city in check. Great plan ACLU. I can only hope you guys at COPA and ACLU are victims someday. I'll be sure to write you a worthless report.
Too much paperwork.
This job has gone to hell in a hand basket and we can all thank Mrs Fenner for making a mockery of once a good dept.
Well if you can't trust Capt's Karyn Murphy and Eve Gueshes, who can you trust? I'm certain they understand the enviroment on the street and how the citizens are trying to get the big payday.
Worked the deuce when it was hopping. Never approached a stopped car without having my revolver discreetly held against my right thigh. Would suggest you still do the same today wherever you work.
If that’s all they want, fine. But if they want ISR’s attached or some funky report created then they can point the guns up their asses. Enough of this pointless shit. “Hey squad this is beat so and so, can you note that I just pointed my gun at an armed car jacker and hold me down on an arrest and Pointing Report?” In the immediate short term this has no big ramifications but with the way this department runs ass backwards, this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Here in DC we’ve had to do that for years, swear on body cam? Even if it’s just to another officer? Written up. Thanks to the NEAR act we have to do a full report each time we stop someone. The result of all of this madness? A 38% rise in homicides last year. This year, despite being a much smaller city than Chicago, we are only trailing you by three homicides year to date.
Different Crime Strategy is coming to Chicago - regardless of who wins the next Mayoral Race.
Latest Master Crime Prevention Program will be implemented.
No more CPD being run by an inept "Merit" Administration. No more politics. ALL will be run by an outside organization that does NOT answer to anyone in Chicago or Illinois. Trying to resist will be futile.
Get ready - it's coming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCFsUHaRVHA
Don’t forget, you will also be required to complete an ISR after pointing your weapon at someone. They seemed to have left that out of the administrative message, but made sure to sneak in the following passage into the actual order:
“The pointing of a firearm by an officer is a factor courts have considered in determining whether or not a consensual encounter has elevated to an investigatory stop or an arrest. Additionally, courts have determined that when an officer points a firearm at a person to detain that person, an investigatory stop or arrest has occurred.“
I recall reading an article that stated Emmanuel and Madigan reached an “agreement” about the policy in that officers would only need to inform dispatchers and not fill out any use of force paperwork. So instead of documenting via a TRR, we will just be documenting via the ISR.
I foresee a new drop-down box on the ISR: “Was service weapon pointed at subject?”. Just another statistic for the ACLU to track and monitor.
Its called the point & sniff order. You can only point your finger at an armed offender, aggravated pointing if you ask them to pull your finger.
The-
"Stop Pointing Guns At Communerty Members
(Who're Encoraged To Point Guns At YOU) Initiative."
So...
Policemen are accused of "Excessive Force" for
pointing their weapons at hard-head/defiant/uncoopoerative/violent
street criminals who have no fear of God, the law or upright men?
Tell the "Communerty members" to stop doing the fool
and the possibility of Police pointing guns at them
will diminish.
Glad I'll be gone from this shit show by then!!
I can’t wait until the 5 page gun pointy form comes out too.
Lol and tact is still rushing to calls? Lights/sirens?
Good luck working!
Liberalism is a disease that needs to be exterminated.
This department is done, thank the democrats
Stupid idea. Always playing mind games with us.
Stay in the fucking car!!!!!! I still hear foot chases in this day and age.
The bad person/beefer (hope that is gender neutral correct) is always going to say you pointed your weapon at them even if you rested your hand on your gun in the holster. Display, holding firearm in low ready position could be construed as pointing a gun. Therefore I suggest that all member's weapons be equipped with a theodolite (which is an instrument that measures angles in horizontal and vertical planes which is used in surveying). This way the Department can specify at what angle from the ground you are actually pointing a weapon at a person (i.e. is it 20, 30, 45 degrees?) They failed to give you the parameters of what constitutes pointing. Also effective would be you holding a selfie stick with a camera pointed at you while you draw your weapon. This order needs to be sent back to Research and Development for them to contemplate it for a few more years. Also did they get opinions from the ACLU, Black Lives Matter, Antifa, Anti gun groups, the "rev-runs, the progressive/socialist Democrat Party?!!!!!!!!
Most departments have this policy...
I remember when TRR's were first started, and the department insisted they would never be used against officers, in any way.
SCC possibly Start a thread on the greatest sic Captains the department has ever made.
Captain A Gon--lez
Captain K Mur-hy
first to come to mind.
Well all they've done with this is insure more P.O.'s ( newer kids) are more concerned about following directives so as not to be fired, sued, etc , than their own lives. Anyone who has any intention to go into law enforcement that comes to Chicago truly needs to have their head examined. The last thing this is is a police department , more like a "political action force" . 35th street demonstrates daily that they don't give a shit about P.O.'s well being and this none sense will get somebody killed ( and I don't mean shithead!)
So Glad To Be Gone...Miss You All..Stay Safe .. Do Nothing..(can't even believe I said that)
The follow up memo in August will be to turn all your bullets exempt for one that must be carried in blouse pocket. You will become affectionately as the Barnes. Or a memo that requires you to turn in all weapons and be given a very loud whistle, you will then be dubbed the Windows. No more chases no more shooting helpless community members no more policing. First law suit will be from a community member that says your excessive whistle blowing will not let him get a goods days sleep after prowling the streets all night looking for victims. City will write him a nice seven figure check and take away those loud whistle and give you cricket clickers. Then new name for CPD will be the Crickets. Enjoy your future.
Isn't the Camel Queen in force review section. . .
"Pointing Policy".
Too damn funny. But also really sad.
Anonymous said...
Its called the point & sniff order. You can only point your finger at an armed offender, aggravated pointing if you ask them to pull your finger.
1/31/2019 12:47:00 AM
OMG, too damn funny.
Coppers being F E T A L shouldn't need to worry about it!!!! Remember JVD he was 100 % right and what did it get him. He got it stuck in his ass for some piece of shit dirt bag that would have never amounted to anything but a welfare collecting jagoff if he lived to be a hundred ! STAY F E T A L Boys and Girls or ELSE !
Please, SCC, you don’t know what you’re talking about. Your rhetoric is going to cause a police officer to hesitate when they shouldn’t and get hurt. This is not a bad thing and it’s not going to lead to something else.
Squad I was at 46 degrees not 50 degrees of angle of point. And I was a tad left of center
These Democrats won't be happy til we become London police. No side arms for us and they will be assured no work from us and revenue for them. Lawyers will be begging Chicago to allow use of force once again.
Karyn and Eve. A grand total of six and one half days on the street between the two. One of them took a four hour duck.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Utilize that low-ready movement like a MF’r. Since most of our department have CAG/SAS or hood self/image, lifting up the that hand gun oh so slightly won’t be an issue, right? We’re so physically fit and dashing !
Wasn’t there a movie like this called demolition man!? Maybe they’ll stop us from using curse words...where the fuck is the FOP? Oh wait they’re out looking for to endorse Solis! Unfucking real. Go get em new officers.
Most departments don't have the number of violent criminals Chicago has.
This ain't Winnetka.
I have to agree with this one, pointing a gun at a person is "use of force." We should have been doing this for years. If you disagree, imagine yourself looking down the barrel of an offenders gun, now you get it. We are lucky we dont have to so a TRR.
Most departments have this policy...
1/31/2019 04:10:00 AM
"Law enforcement operates primarily through governmental police agencies. There are 17,985 U.S. police agencies in the United States which include college campus police, sheriff departments, local police, and federal agencies."
Almost 18,000. So, how many did you check? Keep your fake statistics to yourself. A stupid policy is stupid no matter how many departments have it.
What is our union going to do about this?!?
CPD is a joke. Once feared enforcers are now eunuchs. Welcome to the next round of mother may I.
OWW!!!! thank you best laugh I have had in days. So glad I retired.
I'm ready to put in my retirement papers!
I would NOT take this job today and I tell everyone I know NOT to take this Police job in Chicago!
Chicago is a puke Liberal City gone mad against law abiding citizens!
I tell all of my victims to get a CCL and practice shooting!
KMA 25+
1) No sympathy for any of the poleeeces that came on after the current anti-police movement began. Basicly since Jody.
B) Ditto for the hard chargers being proactive for the man. On this department good, hard, work rarely gets you anything.
Time for a personal.
As always stay safe.
What bullshit! I can't believe ANYONE takes this job anymore. So glad I'm retired. Great idea to keep handcuffing the police more and more. Like many here state, don't get out of the car unless absolutely necessary. Give the ghetto fucks EXACTLY what they ask for- NO POLICE INTERFERENCE!! Things will eventually swing back toward normalcy in this country but thst might take 20 years or more. Until then, protect what matters and let the rest burn.
OMG....Just a Big FUCK YOU to the higher ups in this once PROUD police Dept......
With all the respect due to the dedicated men and women who serve and protect.
And with the understanding that with a substantial commitment of time, officers have to get to the “finish “ line.
As I read this nonsense, I can’t help but think.....Why would any young person want this career?
Police are scrutinized, suspected, doubted, monitored, questioned, accused, and vilified MORE than actual criminals!!!
This is INSANE.
And yet you do the job day in, day out.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, OFFICERS.
Don’t worry be the change snowflakes don’t do shit, even during felony traffic stops when firearm in the vehicle, or when another officer get attacked. And believe me, I know.
This is going to be another obama traffic stop card. Never go away even when proven useless.
Didn’t this aclu bs start with the ny street light fighter, that now wants to be a rahm?
They make it sound so innocuous. Just notify dispatch.
What do they do with it? Write it down and pass it up.
Eventually someone has to tabulate the numbers.
Bites in the assignment will be coming.
Also squad policing is back in 2020......back to regular hour start times but still 4 & 2...... for now.
Retired. Done.
It really isn't so big a deal. No notification for unholstering, displaying or holding it at the 'low ready' position. In many agencies, an officer must notify a supervisor if they actually point their service weapon directly at an individual. I'm sure that your average officer doesn't have to do that on a daily basis.
I have no doubt that when reviewing body and vehicle cam they will look for anyone who is pointing a weapon and then check for a filed report. Whoa to those who fail to make these notifications. Body cameras are becoming the new search engine to catch cops in some type of violation.
What's next, when I break wind? "Squad I just broke wind in my partner's direction, notify my supervisor."
Anyone who takes this job has to have rocks in their head.
A couple of more years and I am done, thank God!
This aint most departments, this is Chicago.
Most departments DO NOT HAVE THIS POLICY...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Most departments have this policy...
1/31/2019 04:10:00 AM
Most departments dont have over 500 Officers killed in the line of duty
Anonymous said...
Most departments have this policy...
1/31/2019 04:10:00 AM
Most departments don’t have murders well over 500 either.
1/31/2019 12:43:00 AM
You have to do the isr when you stop someone worth pointing your weapon at anyway. Pointing the gun doesnt make it an isr, that has to happen either way, but so far, the isr parameters still hold. No isr needed if you're indoors unless it's a public venue, never on private property, and not with probable cause, but in each of those exclusionary areas, you can still point a weapon at someone, and should always be prepared to do so. I don't care if they want paper every time I unholster, there will always be the appropriate explanation attached. Second guessers will always second guess, and so many more will formulate their opinion directly from their assholes.
the police academy teaches us we can draw our gun on any felony stop or call or threat of immediate harm. so im guessing we will all be having a refresher course.
First, The Policeman asks you...
Then, The Policeman tells you...
Failing the first two?
The Policeman then makes you...
Way too many easily outraged, willfully ignorant,
politically and culturally weaponized
"Jury of One" m/fers out here in the world
who persistently live and act outside the
bounds of upright, law abiding society.
Morality, decency, integrity, consciousness,
impulse control and the gift of self introspection
are lost on entire communities and demographic
sub-groups.
But in the interest of cynical pandering,
all accountability, culpability, responsibility
and restraint is being heaped upon The Police.
Our society is such as to deliberately step out
into traffic from behind purposely placed obstructions
while intentionally looking the wrong way so that vehicle
operators can be cooked in the jackpot...
The Police should be "non-interventionist,"
let alone "fetal."
Leave "Tha' Communerty" the fuck alone...
This order is artfully crafted for you who
are too damned hard-head, stupid and obtuse
to understand what's at work here.
You'll get exactly what you're asking for
if you continue to generate "activity" by
stopping/chasing/following/surveilling/interacting
in any way with Dude Inc.
THEY... Are demanding that YOU leave THEM
the fuck alone to do what THEY want to do...
YOU... Have been told that the "witeman's laws"
can not, do not, will not and never have been
applicable to THEM.
But... They WILL apply THEIR reading of those
"racist" laws and turn YOUR LIFE and the lives
of YOUR FAMILY upside-the-fuck-down because YOU
in the glory of YOUR hard-headedness, chose to
ignore what THEY and their aiders/abettors have
been telling YOU.
All accountability is going to be shoved
in your clay-cutter hard, deep and sideways.
...By deliberate design.
Get smart.
Police Like You Have No Friends.
Give THEM the nothing they so richly deserve.
"It's YOUR hide...
How much do you value it?"
Look.
Point & Laugh.
Leave.
there going be a lot of notifications. there are hundreds of shots fired and person with gun calls and felony calls every day. street gangs carry guns every day. black street gangs recruit black children into their gang and Hispanic gangs recruit Hispanic people into their gang, and Chinatown gangs recruit Chinese people. 99 percent of street gangs in Chicago are not white and street gangs carry guns every day. so in 2 years ACLU will falsely report cpd is racist because they pull guns on non white people more than white people. ACLU is the problem not the solution.
The Neighborhood Engagement Achieves Results (NEAR) Act was passed by the Council of the District of Columbia in March 2016 in response to an increase in homicides the previous year. Its goal was to reduce violence in the District, but instead of perpetuating broken and ineffective “war on drugs”-style methods, it uses a community-based public health approach to violence prevention and intervention that is based – in part – on an innovative model pioneered in Richmond, California.
Coming soon:
No loaded firearms.
Only Pocket bullets will be carry permitted
All ammo shall be placed in a hermetically sealed enevople(s) and secured within the top pocket on the opposite side of the holstered firearm.
Limit to 2 sealed envelopes containing not more than 6 rounds of prescribed ammunition.
Only when the situation involving a dispute with a community member is deemed elevated by an on-scene merit supervisor, when after several documented attempts to apply Verbal Judo, Crisis Intervention and De-escalation therapies have no effect, a single Dept member may then be permitted to load the prescribed firearm and repeat verbal notification, in a language understood by the alleged, of the intention. The alleged community member has the right to refuse any operation of BWC’s and will be afforded the opportunity to get any warnings or commands in writing before a Dept member resorts to the loading of any ammunition into a prescribed firearm and only when an alleged community member is in full agreement with Dept policy pertaining to matters leading to arrest and/or detention.
Stay Fetal .
Be a Outside House Mouse (field mouse)
Staples got Riccio and Johnson to pull all the Detectives back who are not in the Detective Division.
In court: Officer you have a history of pointing your weapon at innocent people. How many times have you pointed your weapon at people? That wasn't the question officer, answer the question. How many times? According to your OEMC notifications you have pointed your weapon at 50 innocent civilians.
What about the video a couple days ago with the three mutts driving around with guns out talking about killing the officers in a passing police SUV? Who wants to walk up to a car with three community youth in it and not have a gun out after seeing that video? There were Midnight's in the ghetto when our guns were in our hands more then they were in our holsters for the whole night. Every time we got out of the car we had a gun out!
Might be ancient history, but if you ever worked the projects, sometimes the only way you got out of there without a riot was to to have your weapon "prominently" displayed.
Not pointing, but with a confidence that you were ready to defend yourself and your partner.
Never had to shoot.
G Night Squad.
SSC,
Not related but extremely concerning esp. for Felony Cases. Preckwinkle wants to make a law that an offender has to be allowed to make phone calls within an hour of arrest.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/cook-county-arrested-phone-calls-toni-preckwinkle-amy-campanelli-public-defender/
Not that I am defending the department......but order says pointing only. Unholstered weapon does not count.
As the crime rate goes up, up, up And morale goes down, down, down. CPD Headquarters will tell you the reason we do it. Is to make the public happy.
Kids , Boys and Girls Relax , Follow the pencil neck , pencil pushers , keyboard punchers working for Merit Unqualified commanders orders
Respond to ALL In Progress Calls with Lights and Sirens , Air Horns Blasting , but drive very carefully , obey All Traffic controls , Do Not Drive Left of Center or Pass on the Right
Now when you arrive , assess situation , wait for back up , locate and interview victim before you send any flash message , any injury or complaint of distress request paramedics , write report , make all notifications and for sure , stay off air and tour area for offenders
Please Back each other up , go home safe to your loved ones
take this advice . I survived over 30 years on CPD , working the streets . Family First , Protect yourself , fellow officers and real victims . Do Not take the job home . If you see a Fellow Officer struggling with personal problems , invite them out after work , meet up with them for coffee during work , let them know you are there for them . If they seem suicidal tell someone . Advice I received from a Old Turkey Bird in the 70's (Old maybe late 30's)LOL Kid , remember one thing today if anything I try to teach you " It's All Bull Shit Kid" Never forgot it and survived.
Old Wheel Gunner , Dinosaur or whatever you hair gels call us now . God Bless Chicago's Finest .
They got their foot in the door with this one. Soon enough cops will be required to fillout a ISR-type of report or TRR when they point their weapons. And eventually it will be too hard to distinguish or controversial for them to determine when you just pull out and display your gun and when you actually point it so reports will become mandatory in both instances.
wow my last decision was joining the ranks of Retirement Class Of May 2018! cigar and cocktails warm sunny skies ......
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Worked the deuce when it was hopping. Never approached a stopped car without having my revolver discreetly held against my right thigh. Would suggest you still do the same today wherever you work.
1/31/2019 12:36:00 AM
Thanks for the advice, but I'd suggest everyone just don't make ANY stops at all.
1/31/2019 04:10:00 AM
Agreed. It’s as if CPD(-) is making excuses now for whatever they can
To: Most departments have this policy
I'm leaning towards disagreeing with you on that
Wow!
What else are they going to try to keep us from doing or making us second guess ourselves. This is going to get officers hurt or killed. Plus who is reviewing this? If you said people with no time on the job and/or have never done any real work out there, you are 100% correct..
Don't forget, they know its you (or your partner)....All that is required is your beat number,which has your pc# and star # associated with it. Then they pull the body cam footage to see what really happened. The FRU will then be in contact with you to serve a CL# if they don't like what they see....I'm sure OEMC will automatically pull an event # for a new job type, "point". The only question missing at the moment is the race of the 'pointee', which I'm sure will be coming.
Then they can start spewing all sorts of useless statistics, I'm sure the ACLU is salivating.
This type of shit will really ratchet up if Taxwinkle gets elected.
She’s as anti police as they come...... extremely racist too.
Question, I'm not a copper: Will bad guys have to notify OEMC when they point their guns at a police officer? Or I wonder if Foxx will think about creating a database for incidents where bad guys point their guns and then notify all CPD personnel just to give them a heads up.
I'm gonna guess no, she's not interested in that at all.
Anonymous said...
"Please, SCC, you don’t know what you’re talking about. Your rhetoric is going to cause a police officer to hesitate when they shouldn’t and get hurt. This is not a bad thing and it’s not going to lead to something else."
1/31/2019 06:51:00 AM
F/U and STFU troll...
You've never been out in the world trying to Police
these BEE-AY-DEE, hard-head, death-loving m/fers.
Tell you what...
Why don't you take your stupid ass over to "world star"
and bow your ample bazoo at THEM about running around
banging off/brandishing guns at every fucking thing
that moves/breathes?
>Crickets<
...Thought not.
You and yours are off on this bullshit because
Policemen are the ONLY ONES in that arena who
have compelling rules to abide by.
You and yours are scared shitless of Dude Inc...
Dude will crash a flaming car through the front
door of your warm, safe place and as you and yours
run out the back door to escape the flames, Dude Inc.
is right there waiting for you.
It's so easy to take a slap at Policemen
because Policemen are constrained from knocking
some retaliatory skin from around your clay-cutter.
Dude Inc. has no such constraints.
Which is why Chicago is the God-Awful mess it is.
It's nice to know that you and yours
have finally chosen sides.
F/U and STFU again.
Stay out of The Policeman's way...
It's just another reminder from our department that you better for your own survival handcuff yourself to steering wheel right after you get your coffee and donuts.
Chicago... great place to be a criminal.. yeah, I said it again.
Hey 2:49 Was in same Class Brother. 81~3A .GOD BLESS ALL OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS! My GUY! WE handled the shit in our careers. Love EVERYONE! Some people just don't understand! The whole Class from back then have to get together. We would have a ball! Let me know!!!! Timmy C
Hey this department takes care of their workers. If you work you’ll be ok.
LMAO I kid I kid.
CPD motto " BE THE CHANGE" What a JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't foot chase, don't car chase, don't even stop anyone. Just answer your radio and go to your calls. I still see fools chasing fools. Stop!!!!!!! Times have changed officer's, this is a new police dept. This dept. will run you over in a heart beat. Look what happened to JVD and Bill Cozzi and others. Stay safe,and God Bless
And the beat goes on. Or should I have said beatdown.
The next election will bring even more of the same BS, no matter who wins. Vallas is not the friend you think he is. Police hating will become more emboldened your pensions will be in more jeopardy than ever, especially with Jabba The Hut in Springfield. Despite what he is promising you will not be able to smoke or gamble his way out of pension issues. Bond ratings will fall again and finally bankruptcy.
If Taxwinkle gets in CPD will no longer carry firearms.
We’ll be required to carry those clown guns where a BANG flag unfurls from the barrel when the trigger is pulled.
Thank God I'm Retired. Who ever makes up these orders, should spend some time in the street and not behind a desk thinking up asinine Ideas.
Worked a one/man beat car in 014, early 70's and 80's used 357ammo over 38cal, it had a better kick,always had a secondary weapon strapped 2 ankle, and a good size knife, fuck these so-called bosses and take care of yourself the city really don"t give a fuck about u.
UK style policing is coming. You will be issued a weapon at the station and turn it in at the end of your tour. Off duty carry will eventually be prohibited, except for the heavily clouted ones....
2:21 Well put !
As a retired P/O (36 years on the job) who lives in 022, I anticipated this coming and I have recruited well over 200 additional retirees who have all agreed and signed a "consent" form that any active, on-duty, (have to stress the on-duty thing because I don't want anybody off-duty at Blackthorne doing this) officers who desire to point a gun at us, we are completely good with it. It SHOULD screw up the ACLU's "end of the year" % when 70% of the "pointees" are M/2's.
Already have told multiple supervisors I'll take my chances on this one. You catch me, write up the spar. I'll gladly take the hit on this one. I will never fucking adhere to this fucking nonsense.
Is Rhamm going to install micro-switches in the holsters to count the number of times a gun is removed? Will the ACLU require the officers hat to blink when a gun is drawn to alert the outstanding citizen of impending danger?
If any coppers get hurt due to this new policy, be sure to sue the leaders who signed off on it including the Superintendent and mayor.
We are now in “DEMOLITION MAN” mode, rent the movie and see it that’s where we are heading.
Do your 20 and get out or get out earlier if you can it’s only gonna get worse for us.
If Taxwinkle gets in CPD will no longer carry firearms.
We’ll be required to carry those clown guns where a BANG flag unfurls from the barrel when the trigger is pulled.
*************************************
LMFAO!
They are developing a holster that will register your star number whenever you take your weapon out of the holster and will be downloaded or uploaded to the watch commanders computer. Only exception will be awhile at the range or end of tour. THIS IS LEGIT AND RESEARCH IS ND DEVELOPMENT IS WORKING WITH AN UNNAMED HOLSTER MAKER.
Staples got Riccio and Johnson to pull all the Detectives back who are not in the Detective Division
Keep.detectives where they belong. In the Areas on the floor.working cases. No need for them to be assigned or detailed out to units.
Plenty of places require use of force reports when a weapon is pointed at someone. It has not resulted in any cops being killed.
In any case, pointing a gun at someone is clearly a use of force and should be reportable.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If any coppers get hurt due to this new policy, be sure to sue the leaders who signed off on it including the Superintendent and mayor.
We are now in “DEMOLITION MAN” mode, rent the movie and see it that’s where we are heading.
Do your 20 and get out or get out earlier if you can it’s only gonna get worse for us.
Sue the mayor and the superintendent? Like that’s going to happen. There have been consent decrees against police departments for years
the police academy teaches us we can draw our gun on any felony stop or call or threat of immediate harm. so im guessing we will all be having a refresher course.
and you still can, damn, you guys can be ignorant some times.
CPD is a joke. Once feared enforcers are now eunuchs. Welcome to the next round of mother may I.
Actually, a police Department should not be feared, respected yes, feared, no.
My recommendations:
1. Don’t rush to radio calls - if you get there after the bad guys/gals/persons of non-binary gender have left, there’s no reason to draw or point your weapon.
2. Develop near-sightedness. Don’t see people being robbed, beaten or murdered when you’re on patrol. After all, it could be a cultural event that you aren’t “sensitive” to, and you wouldn’t want to upset someone. If there’s a crime being committed, the victims can call 911 and get you to come take a report.
3. Only draw your weapon when your life or the life of someone you REALLY care about is in danger.
Sadly, “the community” is about to get exactly what they asked for, which rarely ends they way they thought it would. After a couple years of gangs and criminals running rampant in Chicago, “the community” might be ready for a change back to real policing. Until then, don’t get yourself in trouble doing them favors they say they don’t want.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
the police academy teaches us we can draw our gun on any felony stop or call or threat of immediate harm. so im guessing we will all be having a refresher course.
and you still can, damn, you guys can be ignorant some times.
2/01/2019 12:54:00 PM
Don’t think that changed. Now you will have to leave a report.
Anonymous said...
CPD is a joke. Once feared enforcers are now eunuchs. Welcome to the next round of mother may I.
Actually, a police Department should not be feared, respected yes, feared, no.
2/01/2019 12:57:00 PM
Wrong...
Criminals SHOULD have pants-shitting terror
of crossing paths in the wrong way with The Police.
Are YOU a criminal?
Do YOU offer criminals aid, comfort and material
support against The Police and the law abiding
society that sent those Police?
We like our Policemen big, strong, fearsome
with a command presence but nevertheless polite...
You and others like you want bowing and scraping
"humble public servants that know their place."
You also expect Policemen to be "humble"
even when encountering BEE-AY-DEE hyper-violent
lovers of death/haters of civilized society...
We came across some squishy lib-tard nonsense
in an online edition of one of the local rags
heaping praise on the Obama consent decree and
praising the end of "Dirty Harry policing."
Nothing said about celebrating the end of
swing-dick criminality.
Rugged, ruthless and unmerciful criminals require rugged,
ruthless, unmerciful but by the numbers Policing.
You liberal loons applaud "Permission-Slip Policing"
as some kind of a panacea.
Not surprising.
Libs tend to ignore the truths concerning human nature.
Those truths make liberals itchy and uncomfortable.
The Police are not the problem you fantasize them being.
Anonymous said...
Plenty of places require use of force reports when a weapon is pointed at someone. It has not resulted in any cops being killed.
In any case, pointing a gun at someone is clearly a use of force and should be reportable.
2/01/2019 11:48:00 AM
Cite your source please
or STFU and stop posting
ass-pull on this blog.
Here in DC we’ve had to do that for years, swear on body cam? Even if it’s just to another officer? Written up. Thanks to the NEAR act we have to do a full report each time we stop someone. The result of all of this madness? A 38% rise in homicides last year. This year, despite being a much smaller city than Chicago, we are only trailing you by three homicides year to date.
1/31/2019 12:39:00 AM
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Congratulations. We look forward to the competition. Consent decree has been signed, all the changes you mentioned are sure to come, we have this win in the bag! Stay safe, we are in ridiculous times
Congratulations. We look forward to the competition. Consent decree has been signed, all the changes you mentioned are sure to come, we have this win in the bag! Stay safe, we are in ridiculous times
If it makes you guys feel any better, years ago when changes were made and I’m surely not saying they were as dramatic and the ones you guys are facing, many of the old timers said we would never make 20 years. And every 5 years after that when additional changes were made, they reiterated the same thing. But guess what 99% of us made it and you guys will too. Might require some changes on your part but you will adjust and have a good career. I have all the confidence in you being able to figure it out. We did and you will too. Stay safe
Damn! So glad I took the 55 and out.
LET IT Burn!!!!
If it makes you guys feel any better, years ago when changes were made and I’m surely not saying they were as dramatic and the ones you guys are facing, many of the old timers said we would never make 20 years. And every 5 years after that when additional changes were made, they reiterated the same thing. But guess what 99% of us made it and you guys will too. Might require some changes on your part but you will adjust and have a good career. I have all the confidence in you being able to figure it out. We did and you will too. Stay safe
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You’re absolutely right! I’m in great shape, great shooter, not a complete idiot. I’ve had a pretty nice run with part-1 offenses. The “change” you have referred to was already achieved by this guy about 2-3 years ago. I’ve had zero CRs since, no major arrests to speak of, virtually zero court. I make no traffic stops or foot pursuits, I cut paper like a warm knife through a stick of butter. I freely admit that my existence is utterly for show and pointless. Just counting down until my 20 year sentence is up. So, Mr. Silver Linings, great pep talk, now go help CPD hose down the blood from person shot calls...I’ll be down on lunch.
Haven’t you heard, shootings are down. Too busy watching the Super Bowl
I spent my last two years with cpd doing zero traffic stops and I believe 10 arrests total in two years and all on signed complaints.
Had no court. Left cpd, in the burbs and have had 1 court date. Though cant wait until I leave law enforcement.
Give Vallas a shot.
Anonymous said...
I spent my last two years with cpd doing zero traffic stops and I believe 10 arrests total in two years and all on signed complaints.
Had no court. Left cpd, in the burbs and have had 1 court date. Though cant wait until I leave law enforcement.
Yea.. in the burbs being micromanaged to write 10 movers a day lol. Give me a break.
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