Thursday, March 21, 2019

Mental Health at Center Stage

We see lips moving, but we don't think the message is reaching people who need it:
  • Responding to that trauma is now a top challenge for the Chicago Police Department, where alarms are sounding after six officers killed themselves over the last eight months.

    Last week, after the most recent suicide, Superintendent Eddie Johnson convened a small meeting of command staff and told them officer wellness was now his priority. To keep neighborhoods safe, his officers need to be healthy, he told the group.

    Johnson formed a task force to examine the department’s mental health services, according to his spokesman, Anthony Guglielmi, who was at the meeting.
    After killing an armed suspect, a Chicago cop — and his department — struggle with PTSD

    And in a sign of changing attitudes, Johnson also sent his officers a note about the latest death, saying, “we must do everything we can to ensure that our fellow officers have the support needed to get through the challenges of this very difficult job.”
Support? From this administration? Are you joking?

Two years without a Contract (three for supervisors) and no meaningful negotiations. Not to mention that the City only wants to gut Contract protections, making it easier to lose our jobs, which is stressful enough without the added pressure of being fired for offending the "community."

Meaningless training for officers instead of demanding the "community" behave properly - and no meaningful punishment (like prison) when they don't.

Little-to-no opportunity for advancement....unless you possess the proper DNA, are willing to sleep around or service certain persons, or you manage to cheat in a secret study group - again, available only to the chosen or those who choose the appropriate bedroom partner.

And speaking of partners, how about if/when you find someone worth working with, some asshole lieutenant or captain can break up car assignments for activity reasons that no one is willing to put down on paper. At least in the old days, we could bribe the Watch Secretary to work with a regular partner.

Special Ed's "changing attitude" isn't really believable seeing who he has promoted and who he has protected.

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153 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about all these spineless supervisors and gold stars demanding activity

3/21/2019 12:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


This job totally blows!!!!!! I wish I would’ve taken up stripping! For real!!!!

3/21/2019 12:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This task force bullshit is pure Federal Govt. mo.
They also like to form Committies. This gets the
head jackass (Eddie) off the hook, as he can blame
failure on the task force. More wasted hours, more
wasted money. Officers should DEMAND to be on
this task force as watchdogs to keep it clean.
Otherwise we will have business as usual.
Take fucking control NOW!

3/21/2019 12:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


No contact proves that they could give a shit about us!!!!


Fuck them right back!!

3/21/2019 12:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The contract can wait. All the other BS that comes with pushing a beat car around will not go away.

3/21/2019 12:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now by possession of the right DNA, does that include oral possession or maybe on a blue dress(or clothing of your choice)?

3/21/2019 12:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lies, lies and more LIES!

3/21/2019 12:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bosses that shit on P.O's creating hostile work environments.
Hey.
What happened to all of the Quiet/ Meditation Rooms in the districts.
I actually had the benefit of using ours for a few minutes once, and it was helpful.
I can only speak for my district, but within a year of its inception,the room was converted into office space, for some connected detail.

3/21/2019 12:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mental Health starts at the top. Just how fucking
sane is 9.5? He's a sycophant with an Ivy League
(Washington. D.C.) resume, experience, contacts.
Don't let any crisis go to waste? What a fucking motto.
Concerned citizens should pitch in for a Rahm vacation,
because the farther away he is from Chicago the better.

3/21/2019 12:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Having the right bed fellow is correct. Make a list of bosses with spouses are rank of Sereant or above who have Inside spots made up for them, like the chief of detective’s administrative sergeant KL who is married to a boss hiding inside cuz she is too incompetent to do anything else!

3/21/2019 12:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great points SCC!! This department has no intention on doing the right thing. Let’s see.... I would say there is a lot more stress coming from the department than there is in the streets. We can not trust our employer, COPA is headhunting, Fox’s hatred for the police clouds her judgement especially when we are a victim, no community support, the hypocrisy of these white shirts is the cherry on top. They walk around with that smirk on their faces like they actually deserve respect. It’s disgusting. The department is the biggest reason for stress when it comes to officers. And in my opinion it’s that stress that pushes officers in making that poor choice.
But no one wants to talk about that. ☠️

3/21/2019 12:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The second to last paragraph really is the key. The Cmdr’s are being nit picked to death at compstat for every little number. In turn, they’re constantly on the Lts to have their officers produce more and more. I believe compstat is the root of most evil on this job.

3/21/2019 12:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT:
Reminder about the benefit this Friday at FOP hall. Please support these officers. They’re good people with families that could use some help.

3/21/2019 12:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here we go:
If for whatever reason, this rubs you the wrong way, then YES, this article iS TALKING about YOU.
YOU ARE A PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!! You sleep around, cheater, liar and double faced sleeping with a 2 time convicted felon.

3/21/2019 12:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Start by taking care of the late car on midnights! When no outside units/tact/ are availble to back us up, how about making the early cars stay late on paper and no early dips for those usual cars/ have less people at the desk.

3/21/2019 12:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about time off? This 15% shit or whatever it is sucks. Sometimes that means only 3 or 4 people can get a day. At least leave it up to the watch. Some districts are in a perpetual backlog and in all districts the calls never stop so who cares and just give coppers time off. I don't mind picking up the extra slack if it means a cop gets his day off.

3/21/2019 12:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It took six lives within the last eight months to make this his “priority.”
this is a knee jerk reaction to a long term problem that has been plauging us for years.
Ask anyone who has gone through a shooting how badly the E.A.P is funded.

Instead of wasting money on all those goofy posters- you could of placed proper personel.
His “priority” has always been to benefit himself and those who his kiss rear.

3/21/2019 12:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The more it changes, the more it stays the same.
Black lives matter is an enlightened movement.
Blue lives matter is a terrorist flag.
Get yourself on a watchlist.
Chicago is a city by and for criminals.
Read the officer killed summaries from 100 years ago.
Nothing has changed.

3/21/2019 01:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don’t forget getting holiday rdos cancelled and being denied time due. We can feel the love.

3/21/2019 01:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Damn SCC you hit it on the head 100 percent

3/21/2019 01:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That was well put , sirs . That all I can say.

3/21/2019 01:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

100% right SCC! Has anyone ever considered how the city continuously says “screw you” to their police officers when it comes to contact time? For many decades the city does this without blinking an eye. Soon it will be another two years without a mention of any attempt to think about the contract. Now with a new mayor it could go another two years. So possibly 4 fucking years??? Anyone ever consider financial burdens compounding the already stress of this job? It also sends a continuous message of “we don’t care about you” We are forced to live in Chicago while the city continues to raise the cost of living on everything around us with no adjustment in pay. Oh yeah, then they tell us your earned and contributed to pension fund is in bad shape. All this does not help. Something needs to change. PS... No ducks either! We’re watching the GPS. Only for blue shits though. Now go be proactive. Did I forget to mention 15% only time due? Again only blue shirts.

3/21/2019 01:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

An elastic mind is essential to keep up with the times.
I want to see some bona fide professionals on this
project, otherwise it will turn out to be just another
dog and pony show. Don't ask the VA. Their idea
of a suicide hotline was a recording after business
hours directing the veterans to leave their name
and phone number. That's not how it works folks.
Ever been depressed?

3/21/2019 01:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So every day we come to work and hear more bad news about how the department is watching you, restricting your time off, no manpower, more fake missions(so the ones not on them carry the load) inspectors are out, COPA hammering you, no ducks(except for supervisors), everyone swipes(except special people), they’re watching GPS(again, except for supervisors), more blue cards, no contract, our bills increase, and just an atmosphere of constant negativity every time we come to work. Can anyone remember a day coming to work when we heard something good? Just one good thing for the troops? Ever? More time off allowed? Raises? Anything? It’s always, “you can’t” “No” or “we’re watching” or “we need more” Then they head back to the office and watch tv and surf the net. This is the problem. Is it that hard to just be nice sometimes to the troops? Blue shirts aren’t peeons!

3/21/2019 01:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The lawsuits and 0 support from the department is what the problem is.

3/21/2019 02:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic but be aware: Article in Bloomberg News 20 Mar 19, "Ford Explorer Owners Say Their SUVs Are Making Them Sick". Three thousand complaints have been received by Ford and Federal Government saying that carbon monoxide is getting into the vehicles causing migraine headaches, fatigue and dizziness. This affects vehicles produced from 2010 to 2018 and includes POLICE VEHICLES.

3/21/2019 02:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well said SCC. A part of mental health would be less uncertainty and a fair contract. A fair raise and medical coverage. Until then it's just a lot of EMPTY HOT AIR.

3/21/2019 02:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It’s time the city and department starts looking at themselves. Bad news every day. From our FOP too. This has an impact.

3/21/2019 03:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just another knee jerk reaction which will provide no tangible results after it blows over. Just wait until littlefoot gets in, shock and awe........

3/21/2019 03:29:00 AM  
Blogger I Fart In Your General Direction said...

More lip service from the puppet “in charge” of this once great & proud organization.

Like everything else on the job, this latest charade of compassion was concocted reactively and only because they HAD to do/say something.

Even if anything is actually learned by Special Ed’s “task force”, little to nothing meaningfull will ever be implemented as a result. This issue will quickly fade from front and center because coppers, as a general rule, have short memories. Not to mention we’re quite the pessimistic bunch knowing where the lowly blue shirts and unclouted others rank in the eyes of this city and department.

And then it’ll happen again...

Followed by more outrage. More calls to look after one another. More exploring cause, effect and solutions. More calls for education on prevention. More promises that they care and are always available.

Lather. Rinse. Repeat.

Unless you’re hooked into Club CPD Untouchable via DNA, clout, nepotism or sexual favors, do NOT trust anything this department says, does or promises. And NEVER volunteer for shit. They all have agendas to promote and angles to work, none of which will benefit PO Average Joe.

As SCC explained above and as The BCP regularly preaches, police like you have no friends. And Management sure the fuck ain’t your buddy on this job.

3/21/2019 03:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And yet there are still people running and gunning!

3/21/2019 03:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This whole department is about the appearance of being legit. The appearance of police work, the appearance mental health wellness. Even the union.... its all a joke on the people at the bottom that are in the patrol car.

3/21/2019 03:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The morale in 003 is terrible. PPOs are talking about resigning and finding other depts to work for or other careers all together. The Commander is terrible. If you’re not clouted or a certain “demographic” you’re not even on her radar. Constantly messing with check off times, partners, etc. but hey, go out and get ISRs!!

3/21/2019 04:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All I show up for is health insurance now.

I’m not leaving for free.

Fuck you.

3/21/2019 04:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We all know anyone who seeks help will lose everything and end up in a worse mental health state.

Sadly yet another phony publicity move.

He's disgusting.

3/21/2019 05:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Very simply, he wants to address the symptoms, not the cause.

3/21/2019 05:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

EAP is still a joke. You have to psych yourself to get any help.

3/21/2019 05:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe a better idea is stop paying for all the illegals and use that money to find the pension and for a contract with raises?

Every chicsgo politician belongs in jail

Stand together. Time for very creative blue flu.

They'll never change so you must force them creatively. Sadly, full blue departnent depression has run too deep and too long.

Prayers and stay fetal. Let the community self destruct.




3/21/2019 05:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The city and department already achieved as much as it wants on this matter, they got some news coverage. Good enough for them, case closed, on to the next issue we can pretend to fix.

3/21/2019 05:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They’re going to investigate this about as much as they investigated the sham LT test.

3/21/2019 05:31:00 AM  
Anonymous The Box Chevy Phantom said...

Release the Morale Survey commissioned by j-fled in 2007 - 2008
and suppressed/hidden by City Hall and HQ ever since...

The anal-whore media is excitedly running around leaking
and reeking like Police Morale and the toxic political,
societal and work atmosphere of being a Chicago Policeman
is suddenly at the fore because of the recent and always
tragically heartbreaking Police Suicides.

But wait... There's more...

Just you wait for one of the usual racialists/racists/haters
and grievance mongers with a local media "damn all Chicago Cops
to hell" bully pulpit i.e., editorial/op-ed page to make the
salaciously fallacious and slanderous agenda-driven leap that
"Those cops are just killing themselves because they're finally
under our consent decree and that they are now going to be held
more accountable/liable for being brutal, culturally insensitive,
racist and uncaring toward our communities."

...Or some other similar such joyously hateful,
smugly revanchist screed that they pass off as
reasonable and thoughtful public discourse
regarding all matters pertaining to The Police,
Policing and very ideals of public peace, order
and safety.

Those very ideals are being deliberately distorted
to no longer resemble that which is familiar to
the reasonable and law-abiding man who has been
driven from the table and replaced by agenda driven,
hateful, hellish, revengeful score settlers who
openly and joyously boast that it is finally their
turn to run things and dictate uneven terms of
surrender to the law abiding rest-of-everybody-else.

And if everybody else doesn't like it, they can
shove over and STFU.

Right?

Wait until the summer killing season.
The real feel reveal by the "community"
and those who aid/abet/provide material
support for such, will become clear to all.

"Make The Police leave us alone!"

Turns into:

"Make The Police stop all this killing
and start caring about us and building
trust with our community or else we're
going to be mad!"

Remember...
The Police are what's wrong with Chicago.

Police Like You Have No Friends.

Survival and Escape.

Look.
Point & Laugh.
Leave.

3/21/2019 05:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Be honest, the meeting was about their mental health not ours. Where they are going to land with the new mayor?

3/21/2019 05:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I had a boss recently say in roll call “nothing is worth taking your life for”. Then why do we keep having these suicides? I know the supervisor meant well but she is so out of touch and that’s part of the problem.

3/21/2019 05:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I work in the mental health field and one week of cit training is inadequate. Besides, no cop is going to use it, or attempt to use it properly. I am retired CPD, and took the training. No one cares, really. Think of how many drunks are tolerated on your watch. The hiring and screening process is shit. That is why you get people on the job that develop suicidal ideation. Clout people get protected. Three times I knew of officers who put a gun in their mouth, and were allowed back on with no further action by the city, no treatment, no record in their files.

3/21/2019 05:57:00 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Nicely done SCC.

3/21/2019 06:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What other occupation has to work everyday and read in newspapers and watch on TV about how corrupt and evil you and your livelyhood are. There is no other job in the world that is harder to do. Most police officers came on the police department having worked as truck driver factory workers and other everyday job. They send you for training for 6 months and then send you out to do not only the hardest job but the most impossible job in the world!!! This is now more true than ever for police officers one mistake or one moment of bad judgement and your toast. Doctors can get malpractice insurance the police have a union that try's to do the right thing but is a pebble in the sand. God Bless those who wear the blue suit who work an impossible job everyday!!!

3/21/2019 06:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone check out the AMFN message for SGT Merit packets issued a couple of days ago, look at attachment it gives how many nominations each commander, director, etc. can nominate. One unit that has only a commander a sgt and a po (secretary) gets 1 merit nomination, basically he can nominate 100% of his eligible command. She isn't Greek so he may have to nominate outside of his command.

3/21/2019 06:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I once told the Lt that it doesn't cost anything to be nice. He gave me a scowl and kicked me out of his office. And then he has a stroke the following month.

3/21/2019 06:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe “thoughts and prayers” will help.

3/21/2019 06:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So every day we come to work and hear more bad news about how the department is watching you, restricting your time off, no manpower, more fake missions(so the ones not on them carry the load) inspectors are out, COPA hammering you, no ducks(except for supervisors), everyone swipes(except special people), they’re watching GPS(again, except for supervisors), more blue cards, no contract, our bills increase, and just an atmosphere of constant negativity every time we come to work. Can anyone remember a day coming to work when we heard something good? Just one good thing for the troops? Ever? More time off allowed? Raises? Anything? It’s always, “you can’t” “No” or “we’re watching” or “we need more” Then they head back to the office and watch tv and surf the net. This is the problem. Is it that hard to just be nice sometimes to the troops? Blue shirts aren’t peeons!


You couldn't have said it better. If you're pushing a beat car and you're still bringing in activity, what in the hell is wrong with you? Stop it already.

3/21/2019 06:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Smoke and mirrors. They have to say they're doing something to address it when it gets sensationalized in a major news outlet. What can they actually do to improve matters for the majority of the department employees? This is bullshit. Theres so many things wrong they wouldn't know where to start.

3/21/2019 06:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
The second to last paragraph really is the key. The Cmdr’s are being nit picked to death at compstat for every little number. In turn, they’re constantly on the Lts to have their officers produce more and more. I believe compstat is the root of most evil on this job.

3/21/2019 12:35:00 AM

You know who I’m really dissappointed with, Riccio. They say the 1st runs things, well he’s still allowing this comspstat charade to continue. A direct result of this is Cmdr’s and Lts coming back to the district breaking up happy partners because they aren’t producing enough “blue cards.” It’s just fucking ridiculous.

3/21/2019 06:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ed you are so full of shit.

3/21/2019 06:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The very first thing you can do is stop the charade that you care about the people who do the work

3/21/2019 06:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Off topic but be aware: Article in Bloomberg News 20 Mar 19, "Ford Explorer Owners Say Their SUVs Are Making Them Sick". Three thousand complaints have been received by Ford and Federal Government saying that carbon monoxide is getting into the vehicles causing migraine headaches, fatigue and dizziness. This affects vehicles produced from 2010 to 2018 and includes POLICE VEHICLES.

3/21/2019 02:40:00 AM

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2019-ford-explorer-owners-say-suvs-making-them-sick/

Regardless of the cause, Explorers’ exhaust issues made national headlines in 2017: Police officers who used Explorers in California and Massachusetts tested positive for exposure to carbon monoxide. And police in Austin, Texas, pulled almost 400 so-called Explorer Police Interceptors from their fleet over carbon monoxide concerns. Austin police had Ford repair the vehicles and began returning them to service in late 2017. But as recently as last September, an officer from the Fall River Police Department in Massachusetts was diagnosed with carbon monoxide poisoning after driving his police-issue Explorer, a department spokesman said. The department hadn’t sought repairs for that vehicle under Ford’s recommended service for police cruisers to address the carbon monoxide risk, he said.

Ford says the police problems differ from civilian complaints and stem from after-market modifications to the vehicles—like holes drilled in their bodies to allow for special wiring.

Plaintiffs’ lawyers argue otherwise. “It is an Explorer defect issue, period,” said Brian Chase, whose client, Brian McDowell, a former police officer, is suing Ford. McDowell passed out behind the wheel of an Explorer Police Interceptor at almost 50 miles per hour in 2015. He veered across several lanes of traffic before crashing into a tree. Ford has denied responsibility for McDowell’s accident or his injuries, according to court papers filed in the suit.

What does Eddie drive:
https://goo.gl/images/UcUsuH

This is 1 of rahms vehicles:
https://assets.dnainfo.com/generated/chicago_photo/2016/01/jared-steverson-protester-malcolm-x--1452200783.jpg/extralarge.jpg

Did you notice all Chevrolet vehicles hmm no fords hmm!

3/21/2019 07:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The politicians are to blame.

3/21/2019 07:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lie-tenant Hall/Wysinger up at ComStat this week, youre # 1 on the Lt Test. Should be amaze-balls. She got no clue were the Red Line runs. Public Trans is gonna get grilled. Get yo popcorn

3/21/2019 07:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FYI..This was NOT the superintendent's idea. i know it's hard to believe but,he ran with it,he cannot try any harder to try to keep his job,you know the one he "did not" apply for....

3/21/2019 07:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'll say this again and again,law enforcement is not the same as it once was. Don't foot chase,don't car chase,don't even stop anyone. Thank you ACLU. Be safe and God Bless!

3/21/2019 07:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Old Guy said...

Great editorial SCC, right on target. BUT your showing your age , you lil rascal, like a carton of smokes to the Sec’y every month for the privilege of going around the clock on the shitttiest beat and don’t forget the $2 bucks a period to the dispatcher not to redline you or even more to be your alarm clock while sleeping in the hole. Bless you all in the Blue.

3/21/2019 07:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey legit, you're right.
That's the way most hospitals work. When JACO comes
around for inspection all the time is checking that individual
licenses are up to date, that each professional is current on
C.E. credits, refresher courses on CPR, minority interactions,
"boundary" instruction, fire training. Oh and they do check
(after the fact, of course) on morbidity and mortality to
compare you with other hospitals of the same kind. They
really don't care about patient outcomes, they just like to
see the numbers line up to cover their own asses (the
inspectors).

3/21/2019 07:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quiet rooms are just a bandaid. It costs them nothing to
"give" you a room; just says they did something. And what
benefit is it if you can't talk to a medical professional. That's
like leaving the officer alone with his own deamons, which is
the environment found at the suicide. Quiet rooms put the
burden on the officer who has enough stress anyway. The
Dept. is essentially treating you like a child. Here is your
time out room. Go into it, calm down, and come out all
better. BULLSHIT!

3/21/2019 07:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Improving morale will better the situation. The clout/bed partner thing bothers me the most.

3/21/2019 08:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let’s see what’s causing us stress. The refusal of the city to settle a contract. The constant articles that are pension is not funded properly and may not be there when we retire. The fact that Rahm screwed a lot of retirees out of health insurance and we might be next. Promotional exams given years apart, we’re not talking 2 or 3 we’re looking 5,6 or 7. If you come on at the wrong time it might be 10 years before your eligible to take a promotional test. Time off. If officers can’t get time off and miss family event such as milestone birthdays, family weddings, graduations not to mention holidays then yes this builds stress on the home front and this is carried over to the workplace.

Then there’s merit promotions. The icing on the cake. So after waiting years to be eligible for a promotional test, studying for that test you may see hundreds of people promoted before you because of the merit process. Most of these merit picks not only get one promotion but two making them eligible for appointed positions. A lot of these merit promoted supervisors have no business supervising anyone.

It’s also interesting and scary at the same time that both of the mayoral candidates have absolutely nothing Hong positive to say about the police department. It’s all negative. We need more discipline we need to build trust our clearance rate is terrible we’re racist. The department cost taxpayers too much money etc etc etc. I have not heard either of them say one positive thing about CPD. Think that may cause a little stress? Knowing whoever wins the mayors race is going to start day one demonizing the police even further into the ground. You want to make changes great bring it on but we need to be positive and all sides need to be involved in making healthy safe changes.

But hey get out there and bring in some activity and be thankful you have a job.

3/21/2019 08:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i refuse to walk into fop, even for a benefit. I'll send money.

3/21/2019 08:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

32 years in the job and can honestly say Eddie Johsonnis the worst Sup during that time. Just a dumb ass who actually believes in himself. He has allowed politics to ruin this department. He has completely failed on Officer wellness. When the media is more positive about Officer wellness than our city or department, we know we are fucked.
What a disaster of a police department. Hope he pays for it one day

3/21/2019 08:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

such posturing- how pathetic. DOJ report spelled out many shortcomings- inc lack of mental wellness concern and it has taken bushels of bad press (and six suicides) for fatso to give it a little lip service.
but rest assured the recent hiring surge has guaranteed many more years of horrifying lack of proper training, mentoring, accountability--and the likelihood of continued unbearable stressors (for some). plus the lowered standards will help fill the ranks with people who need more support and oversight--which the dept will not provide.

3/21/2019 08:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Meaningless training for officers instead of demanding the "community" behave properly - and no meaningful punishment (like prison) when they don't.

The "community" and white guilt liberals dislike the very thought of captivity or imprisonment because it brings back raw memories of slavery and torture...

3/21/2019 08:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are too many barriers to getting mental health treatment, when needed. Just taking the first step of seeking out counseling is hard enough...but the city makes cops jump through hoops if they want to continue services. The PPO plan only allows 7 counseling sesssions before the officer has to call Telligen and “open a new case” for themselves to continue getting the help they need. Then they are told their case needs to be evaluated and may or may not be approved. Just one more obstacle—and this “recertification” after only 7 sessions is not common practice for other departments’ insurance policies. FOP should look into this..

3/21/2019 08:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unless you’re hooked into Club CPD Untouchable via DNA, clout, nepotism or sexual favors, do NOT trust anything this department says, does or promises. And NEVER volunteer for shit. They all have agendas to promote and angles to work, none of which will benefit PO Average Joe.

As SCC explained above and as The BCP regularly preaches, police like you have no friends. And Management sure the fuck ain’t your buddy on this job.

3/21/2019 03:39:00 AM

Best advice ever besides only suckholes and house mice volunteer for shit...

3/21/2019 08:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Even if anything is actually learned by Special Ed’s “task force”, little to nothing meaningfull will ever be implemented as a result. This issue will quickly fade from front and center because coppers, as a general rule, have short memories. Not to mention we’re quite the pessimistic bunch knowing where the lowly blue shirts and unclouted others rank in the eyes of this city and department.

This "task force" has the twerp's little fingers all over it and he could give a rat's ass...

3/21/2019 08:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3/21/2019 02:40:00 AM

You are correct about these dangerous police ford explorers:
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2019-ford-explorer-owners-say-suvs-making-them-sick/

Read the part where Ford says the police carbon monoxide is due to the holes cut in the body for equipment, bet our crack staff of installers at fleet forget to re-plug the holes they drill, but then again looks like Ford is trying to get off the hook for this deadly mess. Funny how rahm who touts the ford explorers built in Chicago and is buying hundreds for us for police use,but his own detail does not drive them nope has Tahoes and Suburbans. Wait a gosh darn minute at 35th street Eddie and his exempts have Tahoes strange.

Hey Eddie how about since you say you care about officer safety, install carbon monoxide detectors in all explorers:

Explorer owner Dallas Haselhorst of Hays, Kansas, had a similar experience. Ford’s engineers twice found no issue with his vehicle, he said, even though his own carbon monoxide detector—which he attached to a third-row headrest after his wife said she smelled exhaust fumes—detected elevated levels every few weeks.

3/21/2019 09:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What ever happened to hiring more mental health professionals? Wasn’t that a priority last year? There’s like 6 mental health professionals for the entire department - 10,000+ people. That was a great sound bite but never happened.

Just more lip service that sounds good in the press. Everyone on this job knows their talk is all bullshit.

3/21/2019 09:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Step in the right direction, I may be naive but this is the first step. This department needs to admit it has a problem like it essentially is doing and NOW MUST PUT IN THE WORK. EJ you do this then you will have surpass all the other knuckleheads in that office since my short tenure on this god forsaken job.

3/21/2019 09:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ed cares really? He talks the talk but can never walk that walk, he only cares about making sure his wife who was involved and is a member of the cheating lytenants scandal, which joey ferguson was handed on a silver platter but refused to do his job. He cares about making sure his son makes rank, and he cares about getting that fat pension. look at the staff of gold stars and does anyone respect them?

3/21/2019 09:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree the stress has increased on the job due to outside forces treating law enforcement as the root cause of all evil. COPA reopening investigations for fishing expeditions just to try and quantify their existence, the media constantly airing bs anti-law enforcement garbage, along with embellishing petty BS, and all the politicians giving any form of legitimacy to the so-called activists. That's where the stress comes in. It's not wearing a BWC, it's not getting felony charges denied by a political hack and her underlings, and it's most definitely not from any boss telling you to do your job. Your job is to produce law enforcement related activity. Traffic enforcement, whether blue cards or tickets, ISRs, curfews or physical arrests, that is the job. If the very nature of the job stresses you out to the point of suicide then quit for Gods sake. Just quit and go do something else. You're saying a boss telling you to do your job pushes you to the brink of suicide? You have far deeper problems than this job. Man the hell up and do your job, there will probably be a lot less stress if you stop ducking work or working harder at not working. Yes some outside forces are creating stress, so relieve it and put one of the sources in jail, write them a ticket. If they commit an infraction cite them. Traffic, anov, arrest etc. The inconvenience resulting in their actions will serve them some awareness and could be therapeutic for you. But again, if doing the basics of your job pushes you to consider suicide, then resign and move on. Or is that just an excuse for you to ride the bandwagon and a reason to do nothing? And you probably still expect to come in late and leave early and be rewarded for having a job. And if not what? You'll threaten suicide? Geesh!

3/21/2019 09:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

how would a new contract affect some mentally ill cop's mental illness? suicide is mostly due to mental illness and not having a contract does not cause mental illness.

it may be that there are just some cops who need to find some other employment. better to find some other line of work than let the job kill you. although in reality, it is not the job doing the killing. it is the mental illness that is not being treated, possibly due to a legitimate fear that if the department finds out a cop has mental illness they will be removed from the force. this is what should be happening despite the unpleasantness associated with doing so. mental illness can be controlled but is all but impossible to cure so it just won't go away.

3/21/2019 09:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12 mental health counselors at EAP for 12,000 officers, can you imagine the work load. It’s probably worst than the medical section. I would not say anything to a blue shirt in there because they will tell a supervisor and put you on personal concerns and try to strip you. A majority of these people are probably not even psychiatrists. Fat Ed can preach to BLM for he cares more about marching with them than his troops. It’s always been smoke & mirrors in this job. Beat officers are the grunts if this was the army.

3/21/2019 09:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The inner workings and bullshit that PO’s in districts(not units) have to deal with on a daily basis is what beats you down. The moronic promotions along with big brother is watching you just piles on!!

3/21/2019 09:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The current City Hall and Department administrations are the cause of this problem. Rahm and Garry specifically.

3/21/2019 10:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're lying to yourself,if you think EJ cares about Coppers committing suicide.He only cares because this tragedy is in the news and he's got to give the impression that he gives a f#@k..It's all smoke and mirrors on his part..

3/21/2019 10:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Citizen Richard said...

And my naive ass enjoyed paying Rahm's retroactive waste tax as I thought it was going to help fund the pension of police officers. Well fuck me! Welcome to Chicago.
Thank you for laying it on the line everyday.
Now...
FREE JVD!

3/21/2019 10:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
The contract can wait. All the other BS that comes with pushing a beat car around will not go away.

3/21/2019 12:19:00 AM

This is the problem. Why has working years over and over without a contract become the norm and excepted? The way it’s supposed to work is as soon as it expires the new one takes effect. This sends a continuous message that police officers are not important. But sadly when tragedy strikes the politicians are front and center for their “TV time” expressing their love for the police. Shortly after they go back to bashing and forgetting about them.

3/21/2019 11:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The military is not that different from the police department, in terms of life effects. Find something outside of this place that interests you, other than the local pub.

“That life is gonna end for you, and then that community is gone...you've gotta figure out who you wanna be when you grow up...there's a whole life to be lived, and if you don't figure that shit out...it's gonna bite you in the ass.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkjXEYAufOk

3/21/2019 11:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blah, blah, blah..... shut up Ed until you really mean to affect change.

3/21/2019 11:21:00 AM  
Blogger I Fart In Your General Direction said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
What about all these spineless supervisors and gold stars demanding activity

3/21/2019 12:08:00 AM

What about them?

Man the fuck up and exercise your options.

Politely ask anyone demanding activity to explicitly itemize precisely what they’d like from you in writing. If my memory serves me correctly, an old timer working housing in 018 did just that to a 1/W lieutenant some years back. The days of “Keep the Cappy happy” and “a mover a day keeps the sergeant away” are long gone. Back then bosses (NOT supervisors - BOSSES... there’s a huge difference) weren’t adverse to getting their knuckles scraped and putting some skin into the game when shit went sideways. Today? Pfffttttttt!! Too much college and not enough common sense on this job, particularly amongst the Stupidvisorsy ranks.

Refuse any order that’s illegal. This includes being pressured/coerced/threatened to produce activity. Keep copious documentation of date, time, location and others present and/or aware of such instances.

Ask them to accompany you to where activity needs to produced and to lead by example: establishing PC, effecting the arrest, proper handcuffing and searching procedures, required Miranda warnings, proper securing of arrestee(s) prior to transport, the completion of clear, concise and complete reports, approval of PC by DSS and WOL and escorting arrestee(s) to lockup. Remind them they also have the powers of arrest, court keys and that “Box 1” ain’t just for blueshirts.

But I’ll tell you right now what’s gonna happen. You’re going to continue to jump through hoops, performing like an activity-driven circus seal because you can’t be inconvenienced by working a rapid car, occasionally bouncing between start times and partners or having to be pulled off the ‘06 car when the watch is short. You’ll keep your mouth shut when they violate your CBA regarding changing start times, the use of compensatory time and seniority-based issues.

The old timers had no issues with telling jagoff white shirts to go pound sand when fucked with back in the day. You pups today need to grow some balls and take these pricks to task when they’re wrong. And if they’re dumb enough to retaliate, deal with the temporary inconveniences that’ll come with it, and then hammer all involved. Trust me, the smart ones will get the message loud and clear and will lay off quickly.

So quit crying here and handle your business. It’ll get real nice and easy once you put them on notice not to fuck with you.

3/21/2019 11:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The department is wholly corrupt. The city is wholly corrupt. The county is wholly corrupt. The state is wholly corrupt. The US government is wholly corrupt.

That being said. Just answer the call for service. Respond in a timely fashion. Call for back up. Issue a flash. Write a report. Make notifications. On mental health calls have the assignments take the whole tour if necessary.

Give the citizens the department they demanded and deserve.

ISR + TRR = NCD (No Can Do)

3/21/2019 11:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about keeping my life less stressful by not switching to days just for training? Midnight officers sleep during the day. Why train during the time we should be sleeping?

3/21/2019 12:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

List the negative things Preckwinkle has done to the department and the negative things Lightfoot has done. There is your answer. Lightfoots list is lengthy. It will triple in size if she wins.

3/21/2019 12:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC - 025 had a incident last week with a PO, swat was on scene. does anyone know what happened with that situation? hopefully everything was ok and the PO got the medical needs they needed.

3/21/2019 12:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


The contract can wait.
Fund the pension.

3/21/2019 12:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We have no representation. The things cops deal with regularly are extremely hard to deal with. The media propaganda has turned the police into the enemy in the public eye. There has to be a bad guy, a villain for the powers that be to distract people from the real root cause of society's problems. The media has made the police the villain. Americans are easily fooled. Brainwashing is how the machine stays in power. Without representation, it's no wonder we have openly hateful politicians and leaders in charge (Foxx, Preckwinkle, Pfleger, Kwame, etc.). They have nothing to lose in persecuting the police. They won't lose their jobs, freedom or financial stability. If anything, their prejudice against cops helps them ascend in Chicago's machine. But cops have to worry about everything they do because they put everything we do under a microscope always looking for something to nail us on. Cops deal with relentless pressure. No other middle class profession is treated like this.

3/21/2019 01:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This department is a joke. In my nine years I have observed white shirts purposely try and stress out blue shirts and have even seen blue shirts try and stress out other blue shirts. Not saying all white shirts are like this but my whole point is everybody tries to screw with everybody on this job. Your best bet is to keep to yourself, say little, reveal nothing about yourself to anybody, have a nice little side piece or two to release that extra bit of stress, and last but not least: don’t be proactive! Seriously. I scratch my head when I hear and see coppers running around risking physical and legal safety for a department that would throw you under the bus in a heartbeat (unless you’re connected of course). Bottom line: don’t trust anybody on this job. Not even your partner

3/21/2019 01:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Johnson first step for mental health was to start a 8 hr class for recruits; YOGA! The academy took out 8 hrs of control tactics and used it for yoga. When recruits hit the street they have yoga to help with PTSD. Johnson's reaction was political. Create a panel to study how to improve mental health for officers on the street. Maybe a few exempts will visit roll calls. OIn the meantime commanders will deny time off and split up partners for lack of activity. Move along, nothing to see here.

3/21/2019 02:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about time off? This 15% shit or whatever it is sucks. Sometimes that means only 3 or 4 people can get a day. At least leave it up to the watch. Some districts are in a perpetual backlog and in all districts the calls never stop so who cares and just give coppers time off. I don't mind picking up the extra slack if it means a cop gets his day off.

3/21/2019 12:53:00 AM

Agreed. our watch is so short, every officer represents 5% of that 15% on the weekends. So only about three get off. Some Lt's are pretty good, others, not so much. The DOG with the most people??? S/S, of course, cause all the school cars have to be in S/S and the suck ass foot posts, too!

3/21/2019 02:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bosses that shit on P.O's and civilians daily, creating a hostile work environment.
This goes on every day in a unit at HQ. These bosses are the queens of do as I say, but not as I do. The Dept. knows who these repeat offender bosses are {just look at all the CR's} but the dept. chooses to do nothing about it.

W.G.




3/21/2019 02:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DCFS workers should wear cameras Boy 2 murdered by mommas boyfriend. And DCFS had been there 2 days prior and the kids were ok. 6000 s prairie

3/21/2019 02:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lies, lies and more LIES!

that's "Lies, Dam Lies, and Statistics"

3/21/2019 02:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sony was right "Nobody cares"

3/21/2019 02:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In Jugghaid We Trust.
Very little bit of brain to wash and didn’t it didn’t take long.
Push that 21st Century agenda SpecialEd.

Never trust the Democrat.
Careful with the Jugghaid plan.
Next thing you know they’ll deem you disabled and unfit for duty, strip and dismiss... then Red Flag storm troopers come to take away your guns and possession rights.
You’ll be treated worse than the typical lawless immune feral inhabitants.

All part of the grand scheme to disarm the police and eventually, the citizen.

3/21/2019 02:43:00 PM  
Anonymous SGT KM, not JVD, belongs in jail said...

This job totally blows!!!!!! I wish I would’ve taken up stripping! For real!!!!

Well you can always start doing police work.......You'll be stripped for sure.

On another note Ed has nothing to do with our contract, but the rest of it is spot on.....He like many Sups in the past have continously destroyed morale of officers in favor of friends and political windbags that put them in the position. They don't care about your health after working 30 plus years and retire. They only want to appear to care about your mental health for liability reasons.

3/21/2019 02:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When the DOJ report came out a couple years ago, Kevin Ryan came to our roll call room and talked about all the changes that were gonna happen in the CPD. One in particular, he said that coppers were gonna have a better opportunity to get promoted. It was all BS!!! The bosses on the CPD are complete shills for the establishment.

3/21/2019 03:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great points SCC. Agree 100%. I've mentioned it here before, I remember from a conversation I had many years ago with a superior officer while in the Marine Corps in which he explained Marine Corps logistics and he said something that stuck with me to do this day and it juxtaposes so well the antithesis that this department is "Every single unit of the United States Marine Corps is set up to SUPPORT the grunt in the front lines of war" guess who the grunts are in our department, and we are at war. In my 20+ years on this job, 20 as a beat car pusher, I have never truly felt like management cares about the troops. I've heard a lot of lip service but not much follow through. Until this department instills a paradigm shift in which police officers view working a beat car as an honor and not a burden or something to be looked down upon not much will improve.

3/21/2019 03:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3/21/2019 07:04:00 AM

No wonder working coppers get headaches get tested for co exposure, then iod thanks mayor.

3/21/2019 04:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anyone check out the AMFN message for SGT Merit packets issued a couple of days ago, look at attachment it gives how many nominations each commander, director, etc. can nominate. One unit that has only a commander a sgt and a po (secretary) gets 1 merit nomination, basically he can nominate 100% of his eligible command. She isn't Greek so he may have to nominate outside of his command.

3/21/2019 06:21:00

How can that be. What happens when she is on furlough, medical, etc. How does the unit operate?

3/21/2019 04:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are too many barriers to getting mental health treatment, when needed. Just taking the first step of seeking out counseling is hard enough...but the city makes cops jump through hoops if they want to continue services. The PPO plan only allows 7 counseling sesssions before the officer has to call Telligen and “open a new case” for themselves to continue getting the help they need. Then they are told their case needs to be evaluated and may or may not be approved. Just one more obstacle—and this “recertification” aft
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That is not all that unusual. Most medical insurance plans have similar provisions for mental health care.

3/21/2019 04:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you want to see some people that will form PTSD. Go to Comp-Stat next week and see Mass Transit, wig wearing Commander's head just spin when Lemmer gets done with her. She will need weeks of therapy!

3/21/2019 05:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You mentioned the fact that people are complaining of Fords and CO poisoning if you search on google you will see the possibility of prolonged exposure to CO can bring about mood disorders. Just something to think about in relation to recent rash of suicides.

3/21/2019 05:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There used to be a quiet room in 007 for us but a certain female Lieutenant Blackhawk fan who is now a Captain used to sleep in it.

3/21/2019 05:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT

But it is why members are upset?

Will the guilty aldermen get his pension? He resigned prior to pleding guilty!

Bet city will pay his pension?

3/21/2019 05:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
How about keeping my life less stressful by not switching to days just for training? Midnight officers sleep during the day. Why train during the time we should be sleeping?

If you work 1/W you know you are working for the following day. Therefore if you have training in the morning or afternoon you know very well you are given the night off before. I actually appreciate getting an actual night of sleep vs 3-4 hours of nap time that most midnight officers only get during daylight hours.

3/21/2019 05:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Lie-tenant Hall/Wysinger up at ComStat this week, youre # 1 on the Lt Test. Should be amaze-balls. She got no clue were the Red Line runs. Public Trans is gonna get grilled. Get yo popcorn

3/21/2019 07:20:00 AM

Either easy questions or she got questions already and is memorizing the proper answers, it will be like a tv interview for mumbling Daley, no tricky questions and whole lot of “we are working on it”

3/21/2019 05:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


"Johnson first step for mental health was to start a 8 hr class for recruits; YOGA! The academy took out 8 hrs of control tactics and used it for yoga. When recruits hit the street they have yoga to help with PTSD."

If this is true, wait till your off probation.
After handling a domestic, man shot doa, etc,
go into the station to de-stress doing what
you were taught. Be a "trainer", show your
partner how to do yoga.
Your whole watch needs to learn this stuff.
City wide too!

Never chase. Stay legal ! Always fetal.




3/21/2019 05:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bosses that shit on P.O's and civilians daily, creating a hostile work environment.
This goes on every day in a unit at HQ. These bosses are the queens of do as I say, but not as I do. The Dept. knows who these repeat offender bosses are {just look at all the CR's} but the dept. chooses to do nothing about it.


Hopefully these bosses stay at HQ with their crap and not screwing up the coppers in the district's. We have enough issues... U keep um.

3/21/2019 06:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a crock of shit. This department doesn’t give a rats ass about us. So Johnson and every other boss spewing this bullshit can fuck off. The rank and file know where we stand. And we don’t stand with upper management because they don’t stand with us

3/21/2019 06:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Johnson will go down in cpd history as the worst superintendent ever. If he had any sense at all he would just retire now.

3/21/2019 06:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Special Ed dont give no Fucks about coppers just walk by him in HQ and say hello and see how he looks down on the little people.

3/21/2019 06:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


"How about keeping my life less stressful by not switching to days just for training? Midnight officers sleep during the day. Why train during the time we should be sleeping?"

I worked first watch for several years for family reasons.
Each District could have sent one officer for training,
during the hours of 2300-0700. Total 25 people.
The instructor would have to work those hours too,
but still have the weekends off.
But NOOOOOOO, better to fuck over 25 people so the
daytime dolly, kiss ass, suck up, clouted instructor could
remain on days.
Spock said, "The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few."
None of our exempts, pass & present, could ever become a Star Fleet Officer.




3/21/2019 07:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I survived 2 years of depression after becoming disillusioned and disgruntled by the ridiculous hostility and lack of support from politicians and the news media. I even seriously contemplated suicide on several occasions. My advice to officers who want to avoid or mitigate depression is: 1-avoid or stop drinking alcohol. It numbs the psychological pain short term, but can trigger or worsen depression. 2-Regular cardiovascular exercise helps to improve your mood and even your outlook on life. 3-Do not take this job personally and don’t allow it to become your identity. It provides a stable income and benefits, 4-Reduce your jnteraction with hostile people, especially hostile supervisors. Tune out the hostile news media and bid to a different district If necessary. 5-Pray. When everything seems hopeless, reach out to God and ask for strength and wisdom.

3/21/2019 07:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


O.T. I just watched the Mayoral Forum on Ch 11, Chicago Tonight.
Ponce asked Preckwinkle several questions. Preckwinkle disregarded the question and recited a speech on any other subject to avoid the question. I don't like either one, but Lightfoot answered all questions put to her.

3/21/2019 08:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
When the DOJ report came out a couple years ago, Kevin Ryan came to our roll call room and talked about all the changes that were gonna happen in the CPD. One in particular, he said that coppers were gonna have a better opportunity to get promoted. It was all BS!!! The bosses on the CPD are complete shills for the establishment.

***************************************

Kevin Ryan is one of the biggest stroke I've met in 10+ years on the job. The fact that CPD had no better option than to send his incompetent ass to your roll call shows you the state of despair that CPD has been in for some time now. A guy who's as dumb as a box of rocks and who didn't earn sh*t in his career is gonna tell you that you'll have more opportunities to earn a promotion. Now go out and hit those streets hard boys and girls. You might be one of the lucky ones to squeeze in a spot on the next merit, errrr Sgt exam.

3/21/2019 08:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Get rid of clout...I mean merit promotions, sorry

3/21/2019 08:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
SCC - 025 had a incident last week with a PO, swat was on scene. does anyone know what happened with that situation? hopefully everything was ok and the PO got the medical needs they needed.

3/21/2019 12:33:00 PM

It will be the same old thing. If heavy, will skate, if no clout will get screwed

3/21/2019 08:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2nd City... You are a exactly right again!

3/21/2019 09:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you think anything is going to change department wide regarding this issue, think again. We have to start having courageous conversations with one another and stop with the superficial friendship that are made on this job. When we recognize that somebody is struggling we say nothing to that person. we let them hang out in the wind. If we do nothing, nothing will change don’t expect it from the top.

3/21/2019 09:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Let’s see what’s causing us stress. The refusal of the city to settle a contract. The constant articles that are pension is not funded properly and may not be there when we retire. The fact that Rahm screwed a lot of retirees out of health insurance and we might be next. Promotional exams given years apart, we’re not talking 2 or 3 we’re looking 5,6 or 7. If you come on at the wrong time it might be 10 years before your eligible to take a promotional test. Time off. If officers can’t get time off and miss family event such as milestone birthdays, family weddings, graduations not to mention holidays then yes this builds stress on the home front and this is carried over to the workplace.

Nothing new here. Stress has been here for 50 years on the CPD. I don’t understand why you think this is unique to the new generations or current po’s. City has refused to settle contracts since the union started what 30 or more years ago. The average settlement time since we were given contracts is over 2 years if not more. Articles that the pension is not funded. Give me a break, old man Daley underfunded the pension when he was the mayor and he died in 1976, over 40 years ago. Rahm screwed up retiree health care and you might be next. You might be next, you are next. City isn’t going to pay your retiree health care and not the current retirees. Current tests are you kidding me. Sgt tests and other promotional were given less. You had to have time in grade and you never saw people getting promoted this young. Nobody got promoted with under 5 years and the time between tests was the same if not longer.
Don’t think this is new stress on the CPD been around for years

3/21/2019 09:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
12 mental health counselors at EAP for 12,000 officers, can you imagine the work load. It’s probably worst than the medical section. I would not say anything to a blue shirt in there because they will tell a supervisor and put you on personal concerns and try to strip you. A majority of these people are probably not even psychiatrists. Fat Ed can preach to BLM for he cares more about marching with them than his troops. It’s always been smoke & mirrors in this job. Beat officers are the grunts if this was the army.

3/21/2019 09:29:00 AM
********
People like you are the reason that people who need help don't get it. Know what you are talking about. They do not keep notes, they do not put anyone on Personal Concern or Behavioral Alert, they DO send people to facilities out of state if needed (to get around mandatory Illinois reporting--other states don't have to obey Illinois law). They are good, hard working people, but yes, severely understaffed. Give them credit for what they do...….A supervisor who has used their services personally, and recommended others to do so....Yes, true.

3/21/2019 09:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do not perform yoga: you are performing worship positions honoring pagan Gods. Instead, go take a 20 min walk on tne beach or on your area. This has a fabulous benefit and actually really does help with depression. Walking barefoot on sand or grass is preferred, except lake front sand is filled with nedles and city parks are filled with dog p and p.


Find a buddy to walk with you. Also you can even park a couple of blocks away from a store and walk the rest of the way. Start a PO walking club, sou ds campy, but you never know what will hapoen. Pollyanna

Ps You blue men and women are so wonderful Laugh at the morons: easier said than done, but worth it. God bless you and thank you

3/21/2019 09:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Ridiculousness said...

One unit that has only a commander a sgt and a po (secretary) gets 1 merit nomination, basically he can nominate 100% of his eligible command. She isn't Greek so he may have to nominate outside of his command.

3/21/2019 06:21:00

How can that be. What happens when she is on furlough, medical, etc. How does the unit operate?

Hahaha a commander, a sgt and a p.o.walk into a bar lmao what work do you think is getting done in the 1st place

3/21/2019 10:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lie-tenant Hall/Wysinger up at ComStat this week, youre # 1 on the Lt Test. Should be amaze-balls. She got no clue were the Red Line runs. Public Trans is gonna get grilled. Get yo popcorn

The Lie-tenant already has the questions that are going to be asked at Compstat. Kinda like the lie-tenants exam. You don’t think Hall/Wysinger is going to be treated like everyone else, do you? This woman couldn’t function in the real world without a heads up or a hand out.

3/21/2019 10:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about keeping my life less stressful by not switching to days just for training? Midnight officers sleep during the day. Why train during the time we should be sleeping?

3/21/2019 12:04:00 PM

Not trying to be the asshole here, but this is covered in your contract. They can do it only 3(?) times a year and have to give you 7 days notice. Not the greatest thing but is it really the worst? Supervisors have to go to active shooter XVI, and it HAS to be on their day off, regardless of watch.

3/21/2019 10:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
I survived 2 years of depression after becoming disillusioned and disgruntled by the ridiculous hostility and lack of support from politicians and the news media. I even seriously contemplated suicide on several occasions. My advice to officers who want to avoid or mitigate depression is: 1-avoid or stop drinking alcohol. It numbs the psychological pain short term, but can trigger or worsen depression. 2-Regular cardiovascular exercise helps to improve your mood and even your outlook on life. 3-Do not take this job personally and don’t allow it to become your identity. It provides a stable income and benefits, 4-Reduce your jnteraction with hostile people, especially hostile supervisors. Tune out the hostile news media and bid to a different district If necessary. 5-Pray. When everything seems hopeless, reach out to God and ask for strength and wisdom.


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Thanks for sharing brother I'm glad you're still here and getting stronger!

3/21/2019 11:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That dr that was referenced in article, she is wack herself. Hidden in a CIT office, a district commander's office, for more than half her career, not the street. Had so many name changes, can't keep track. Just ask her old partner from CHA, she even backstabbed them also. She was a snitch when she was in the academy too and in the north side district where she worked in commanders office.

3/21/2019 11:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You have got to rotate officers from on the street to inside spots and reverse. All on street duty with significant seniority should be detailed to academy to train for a month. A break from the street and the kiddies get the real scoop.

3/22/2019 12:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...


O.T. I just watched the Mayoral Forum on Ch 11, Chicago Tonight.
Ponce asked Preckwinkle several questions. Preckwinkle disregarded the question and recited a speech on any other subject to avoid the question. I don't like either one, but Lightfoot answered all questions put to her.

3/21/2019 08:27:00 PM

Lightfoot will win, lesbian and black, of course. The lesser of two evils. But still a horrible choice.

She will push the gay and progressive agendas first and foremost. She has received endorsements from three progressive politicians: Ald. Scott Waguespack, former Cook County Clerk David Orr, and U.S. Rep. Robin Kelly. She's hired Manuel Perez as campaign manager. The campaign manager progressive force for “Chuy” Garcia. "I’ve been lucky to help elect progressive leaders at all levels of government and Lori is no exception". The feminist nut job, Gloria Steinem, is also endorsing Lightfoot. “She is not only pro-choice, but for reproductive justice”.

3/22/2019 01:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nothing new here. Stress has been here for 50 years on the CPD. I don’t understand why you think this is unique to the new generations or current po’s. City has refused to settle contracts since the union started what 30 or more years ago. The average settlement time since we were given contracts is over 2 years if not more. Articles that the pension is not funded. Give me a break, old man Daley underfunded the pension when he was the mayor and he died in 1976, over 40 years ago. Rahm screwed up retiree health care and you might be next. You might be next, you are next. City isn’t going to pay your retiree health care and not the current retirees. Current tests are you kidding me. Sgt tests and other promotional were given less. You had to have time in grade and you never saw people getting promoted this young. Nobody got promoted with under 5 years and the time between tests was the same if not longer.
Don’t think this is new stress on the CPD been around for years

3/21/2019 09:22:00 PM

Bet you are fun at parties

3/22/2019 06:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fat Phil ruined the department with his Clout promotions

3/22/2019 08:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

O.T. I just watched the Mayoral Forum on Ch 11, Chicago Tonight.
Ponce asked Preckwinkle several questions. Preckwinkle disregarded the question and recited a speech on any other subject to avoid the question. I don't like either one, but Lightfoot answered all questions put to her.

3/21/2019 08:27:00 PM

I also saw it and they both want civilian control of both the department and our contract. Not to mention the ability to have people file complaints against POs with anonymity. These new guys have no idea what they’re in for

3/22/2019 09:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
That dr that was referenced in article, she is wack herself. Hidden in a CIT office, a district commander's office, for more than half her career, not the street. Had so many name changes, can't keep track. Just ask her old partner from CHA, she even backstabbed them also. She was a snitch when she was in the academy too and in the north side district where she worked in commanders office.

I’m shocked

3/22/2019 11:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How can that be. What happens when she is on furlough, medical, etc. How does the unit operate?

Hahaha a commander, a sgt and a p.o.walk into a bar lmao what work do you think is getting done in the 1st place

It was sarcasm

3/22/2019 11:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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People like you are the reason that people who need help don't get it. Know what you are talking about. They do not keep notes, they do not put anyone on Personal Concern or Behavioral Alert, they DO send people to facilities out of state if needed (to get around mandatory Illinois reporting--other states don't have to obey Illinois law). They are good, hard working people, but yes, severely understaffed. Give them credit for what they do...….A supervisor who has used their services personally, and recommended others to do so....Yes, true.

3/21/2019 09:28:00 PM

Not the guy who wrote the comment and partially agree with you, but the note part makes no sense. They have to keep records of their work and time spent if only to be able to continue their counseling the next session. That’s why doctors take notes. With the number of patients they see, they have to have notes to refresh their memories

3/22/2019 12:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"4-Reduce your jnteraction with hostile people, especially hostile supervisors. Tune out the hostile news media and bid to a different district If necessary."


Pretty good advice all around but this really reminded me of my past situation. I actually bid out of a district to get away from a hostile supervisor as did my partner at the time. The thing is all the other supervisors knew the guy was a malicious jagoff and even sided with PO'so against him but this never stopped him. I was going through a particularly rough time. Breakup with long time GF,relative passed away,had to put down my dog. And every fucken day had to deal with this scumbag. Same DOG,same sector. I have to confess that the thought of harming someone was constantly on my mind. But it wasn't myself. I bid out and never regretted it for a second. Actually found a watch with decent bosses and good coworkers. Never be afraid to change if your work environment is really bad. And most current supervisors are nowhere near as bad as some of the Assholes we had in the past.

3/22/2019 01:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

pay raises will be 1% for the last two years , we better try to give up uniform allowance and make it part of our pensionable salary .
supervisors will have to make a choice , do you want quarterly checks or .75 comp time every day you work ?

3/22/2019 02:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don’t think this is new stress on the CPD been around for years

3/21/2019 09:22:00 PM


It's certainly not new, but it's far past time something be done about it, rather than simply accept it.


rb

3/22/2019 05:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sad. So very sad. Just how many career Chicago Cops have PTSD ? My guess, thousands. They see much more violence first hand than any peace-time Military Soldier or suburban or small town cop ever does. For many, it was an almost daily experience, for decades. City of Chicago drops the Ball again. As usual.

3/22/2019 05:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Fat Phil ruined the department with his Clout promotions

3/22/2019 08:29:00 AM

Yes he did. Especially the Detective Division.

3/22/2019 05:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
pay raises will be 1% for the last two years , we better try to give up uniform allowance and make it part of our pensionable salary .
supervisors will have to make a choice , do you want quarterly checks or .75 comp time every day you work ?

3/22/2019 02:03:00 PM

You are dreaming. Sgts will continue to get both. Remember they wear white shirts

3/22/2019 05:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Nothing new here. Stress has been here for 50 years on the CPD. I don’t understand why you think this is unique to the new generations or current po’s. City has refused to settle contracts since the union started what 30 or more years ago. The average settlement time since we were given contracts is over 2 years if not more. Articles that the pension is not funded. Give me a break, old man Daley underfunded the pension when he was the mayor and he died in 1976, over 40 years ago. Rahm screwed up retiree health care and you might be next. You might be next, you are next. City isn’t going to pay your retiree health care and not the current retirees. Current tests are you kidding me. Sgt tests and other promotional were given less. You had to have time in grade and you never saw people getting promoted this young. Nobody got promoted with under 5 years and the time between tests was the same if not longer.
Don’t think this is new stress on the CPD been around for years

3/21/2019 09:22:00 PM

Bet you are fun at parties

Probably not if you consider fun complaining about stuff that’s been around for decades and thinking it is all new and just affecting you

3/22/2019 05:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Johnson is just a Lousy Boss. I wish he'd just fuck off.

3/22/2019 06:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3/21/2019 05:19:00 PM

CO poison is real. Make sure you crack windows open and get fresh air coming into vehicle at all times.

My most sincere prayers to all

Stay safe and blessings and prayers. Thank you for your service

3/22/2019 06:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What you get back from society nowadays for risking your life on the Police or in the Military: And they wonder why we are like we are...

https://defensemaven.io/bluelivesmatter/news/doubletree-hotel-bar-refuses-service-to-military-personnel-company-responds-fNYH8H6SQE2k-pHUKOqxEw/

3/22/2019 07:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Fat Phil ruined the department with his Clout promotions

3/22/2019 08:29:00 AM

Yes he did. Especially the Detective Division.

3/22/2019 05:09:00 PM

I can still hear the banshee Maria Maher shrieking away. It's the stuff of nightmares.

3/22/2019 08:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bullshit

3/23/2019 12:21:00 AM  

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