Not Only Chicago Shrinking
- The Chicago area’s population declined for the fourth year in a row in 2018, according to the latest Census Bureau estimates.
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Chicago is suffering the demographic realities—an aging population that’s retiring and dying faster than it can be replenished by births or immigration—that come with being a large, aging city at a time when growth is happening in the Sun Belt and the oil patch. Changes in immigration, driven by both politics and economics, also have had a big impact.
Only Pittsburgh had a greater population decline than Chicago, in percentage terms, among the U.S. metropolitan areas of more than 1 million people.
- The nation’s largest city is losing population for the first time in more than a decade, new federal estimates show.
International migration into New York City’s five boroughs tapered off, as more residents left, shrinking the city’s population in 2017 and 2018, according to U.S. Census Bureau numbers released Thursday.
New York’s population dropped 0.47% to 8.4 million by July 2018, compared with the previous year. Census officials previously estimated that New York’s population grew by about 7,000 in 2017, but revised figures show it actually dipped by about 38,000, a 0.45% decline from the prior year.
We know what's driving Chicago's population loses. What's up in New York?
Labels: state politics
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
54 Comments:
One answer: liberal demotaxic policies!!!
"Chicago is suffering the demographic realities—an aging population that’s retiring and dying faster than it can be replenished by births..."
Time to youth-enize Chicago!
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Let’s ask Trump for some of those illegals— we welcome them to our sanctuary city
Don’t forget the incredibly awesome taxes and costs to live in these dystopian paradises. All democrat strongholds. Yay, Democrats. You’re all awesome.
Houston has replaced Chicago as the third most populous city in the nation/
democ"RATS" are the common denominator and the over taxing political party behind all the big city problem areas!!! And according to them the POLICE and TRUMP are the problem!
I’m so happy things are going as the DemocRATS want. I’m leaving also. To all the people who like what’s going on; enjoy your utopia!
Just count me as gone! I hate this place!
Democrat controlled wasteland.
Liberal lunacy.
We know what's driving Chicago's population loses. What's up in New York?
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Decmocrat shitheads running the show, that's what. Decent people don't want to live in a socialist commune where scumbag shitheads are give preference over actual taxpayers and law abiding citizens just for their vote.
You take free shit, you don't get to vote. For the same reasons they claim unions should get the right to contribute money to elected officials, those officials are buying votes with free shit.
It's not aging population. We all know it's taxes, crime, illegals, ferals and moronic demonrat laws. Why live in hell and be stuck paying for it when you can live in comfort with decency?
o the real question is, were these taxpayers leaving? Bet they were so if you go low and say the 23,500 paid on average of $2,000 in city and state taxes there goes about $45,000,000 out the door on the low side but realistically it is probably mote like $70,000,000 in lost revenues. Couple that with an influx of illegal that are a huge net drain on the budget, there is about to be the biggest single tax and fee increase in the cities history. Your all about to begin paying 40-50% more for the privilege of living in that crime ridden Democratically controlled Hell hole. Those leaving saw the light and got out while real estate was high, how about you.
Taxes.
Ny is extremely too expensive to live there and it's over crowded and congested.
Too late; youre trapped if you haven't sold your house
Enjoy the Crime and More Taxes and Fees
Uh, take a look at who is leaving Chicago...
...and who is moving INTO the City. Quit complaining.
Personally retired a couple of years ago from CPD we were thinking about staying here because your family but now it looks more more like we will be getting out of here not just this corruption filled Siri this crime filled city nope we have to get out of the state we’re being taxed to death have to worry about everywhere you go due to the black problem of crime that’s what it is don’t say it’s racism it’s not racism it’s being a realist that is what happening does anyone have any recommended places where they’re going we hear Tennessee Arizona Florida Kentucky Alabama anybody living there and what times do you live in and what are the taxes the crime rate in our stores hospitals close? Thank you second city card for all you do and God bless the police officers that every day do the job that many would never ever do.
The people leaving are tax payers, black, white and brown. Until Chicago starts to control the out of control violence more will leave, people will pay taxes, they don’t like being robbed or killed and they get blamed for it.
Common denominator?
Democrats!
President The Donald will send illegals here to make up for the loss.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
40 years ago Illinois had what 28 congressman? By the time the 2020 census rolls around there will be lucky to have 15 or less, while Texas, AZ Calfornia all grow in population we have a shrinking, older, retired population with the worker bees movingout to greener pastures. Soon there will be no one left to you knkow... pay taxes to support the retiree's.
Oh wait...
I know
tax the retiree's.
what a great idea.
Attended seversl weddings last year. Each wedding had FORMER hellinoys residents who fled and current residents planning to flee. Also had a few San Francisco residents plotting their escape.
I don't believe any of them are racist. However, they see the locust plagues destroying and not building up.
With HUD forcing low income housing everywhere, there's no escape. Perhaps all the decent peeps should buy up all the cheap housing and retake the old neighborhoods?
No sense paying $100k in property taxes if you can't go outside. May as well live cheaply until you can afford your own island.
Yet out here, in the suburbs, they build on every available piece of land.
What’s up in New York ?
Comrade Mayor and cubanphile AOC.
The mayor of NYC is a much bigger leftie than Rahm could ever hope to be.
The wife is an avowed socialist who has her own staff and hundreds of millions of dollars in taxpayer funds to play with. (Which she now can't account for of course) At least Amy Rule stays in the background
NYC is shrinking due to high taxes. Once fat Bago (aka Jay-Bee the Hut) raises Illinois income taxes by changing the IL Constitution, you’ll see the depopulation continue and accelerate. No more corporate headquarter moves to IL. They will go to Texas and it’s zero income taxes. Democrats are so short sighted and honestly could not run a lemonade stand profitably. Now the state wants to give MAP college grants and Medicaid to illegal aliens. You’ll see Illinois accelerate into the shitter. I pray that I can get out one day. I’m tired of the unnecessary taxes and the pandering to the lazy.
Please stop with the liberal nonsense. These democrats stopped being liberals years ago. The democrats are socialist/marxist totalitarians now. Oh, they won't admit to being marxists, but they are. Just look at what they say. Tell me that Jan Schakowsky isn't a communist and I'll laugh in your face. That little rat Gutierrez is a communist. Oh, their personal wealth isn't marxist, but their views on YOUR personal wealth certainly are. Bobby Rush, a totalitarian bigot. Prickwrinkle, another bigoted totalitarian. Quigley is worthless. Our newly elected Baby Light Groot talks a good game about taxes, but wait and see, at best, she's a socialist with social justice notions. Our universities are now marxist indoctrination centers. We're so screwed. These blue state voters are fleeing the mess they voted for and vote the same way in their new states. We're actively destroying the greatest experiment in human governance and economics in history.
Just think how bad it would be if residency requirements get dropped for city employees.
Give it 5 more years. Middle class dead and chicago will be looking like Detroit. If not for city workers now all the neighborhoods will look like piece of crap.
+++++ 'Chicago is suffering the demographic realities—an aging population that’s retiring and dying faster than it can be replenished by births or immigration.' +++++
Bullshit. That's not why the population dropped. It's because of the out-of-control Gang Violence and TAXES -- taxes on f--kin' everything now, including the previously untaxed category of, 'Services'; A few weeks back I took one of my Fender Stratocasters in for a 'setup' -- a Guitar Tech called a Luthier makes adjustments to maximize playability -- There was Sales Tax on it! (Fuck You, Madigan & Jabba the Hut!)
>>>>> 'New York’s population dropped 0.47% to 8.4 million by July 2018, compared with the previous year.' <<<<<
New York's population decline is an easy answer -- Taxes! State and Local Taxes. And due to New York City's neo-communist Mayor, Bill De Blasio, and his never-ending quest to tax anything and everything in existence. His latest brain-fart of an idea I've read about is his proposed 'Congestion Tax', it's a Tax on entering Mid-Town Manhatten.
Though if De Blasio's anti-police policies get a chance to take hold, and/or if more of his neo-communist ilk get elected to city government then NYC will have people fleeing over crime in addition to high taxes, just like in Chicago and Illinois.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/04/why_do_most_people_in_this_country_work_while_others_never_will.html
What’s really driving our population loss is our lack of an Obama library. What’s the saying “build it and folks will come”
And to think our salvation is running wild in downtown Chicago. We are doomed folks. But on the other side of the coin I feel better knowing Cupich will always be there for us. Oh, did I forget to mention he’s a p.o.s. We may forget Smellit, but we will never forget Cupich.
De Blasio and company for starters.
So the sheeple aren't as stupid as the politicians think they are.
I sure hope they do not bring their bad voting habits with them.
Socialst/Liberal/Progressive/Democrat utopia is not for everybody.
Ed’Crime is down.
Arrests are down.
Prosecutions are fewer.
Population down - city and state budget up.
Population dwindling yet CPS is packed.
Shouldn’t there be a reduction in weffare entitlemints too?
Shouldn’t there be a reduction in voter registrations?
It’s Always Sunny in Sanctuary City
What's up with New York ? Democrats, and there taxes, taxes, and more taxes will solve ever thing mentality ! Had lived there for a while now here in Chicago, but not for long. These Chicago democratic have got this city more fucked up more then I could believe. Had to see it first hand for myself Nashville here I come.
Just wait ‘til summer...
After a few weekends of “wilding” and Ms. Foxx’s “catch and release” club, anyone who can move will be loading up and heading out.
I have no idea what Lightfoots plan will be to stop the mass exitous from Chicago. Attacking and demoralizing Chicago’s police force just to appease the 1% is not working. A terrible cook county justice system is major problem too. People are fleeing for safer cities and better run governments. I’m the last one left after all 4 of my siblings and their families fled to the suburbs. Not good
All cities have become Liberal Democrat Progressive shhtholes. As decent law abiding tax payers leave taxes skyrocket to pay the bills. They all soon become Detroit. Chicago is well on its way. Downtown Chicago and the near north are under attack by young brainless savages. They will drive out tourist and business. The end is near folks.
High taxes are driving people to leave both Illinois and New York.
high rent, high crime, only retail jobs. how about paying $150 for a $20 ticket.
Whole neighborhoods have vacant lots. Food deserts.
What was that term Trump used for filthy corrupt backwaters?
He can now use it for Democrat-run cities.
Wassup by NYC?
TAXES. Trump's tax cut has a side-disadvantage: a limit of $10K deductible in property- and state-income taxes. So Chicago (and Milwaukee, by the way) will continue bleeding, as will every other major city which squeezes the shit out of its inhabitants with excessive taxes.
https://nypost.com/2019/04/19/judge-frees-gang-member-orders-him-to-write-report-on-gun-violence/
Blogger Dad29 said...
Wassup by NYC?
TAXES. Trump's tax cut has a side-disadvantage: a limit of $10K deductible in property- and state-income taxes. So Chicago (and Milwaukee, by the way) will continue bleeding, as will every other major city which squeezes the shit out of its inhabitants with excessive taxes.
4/19/2019 03:13:00 PM
Milwaukee will bleed worse because in Wisconsin they tax your pension which is also included in the $10,000
DeBlasio and his wife are horrible but they really don’t bother the police. The NYPD doesn’t really mix with the politicians. If anything they have more of a say then any single politician. AOC is basically hated by all NY. That’s why she is going national.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Just think how bad it would be if residency requirements get dropped for city employees.
4/19/2019 09:40:00 AM
Wouldn’t change a thing. Very few would leave. Look around your neighborhood and take notice of how many retirees still live there. There’s a lot. If they’re not leaving what makes you think current workers would?
Anonymous said...
Ed’Crime is down.
Arrests are down.
Prosecutions are fewer.
Population down - city and state budget up.
Population dwindling yet CPS is packed.
Shouldn’t there be a reduction in weffare entitlemints too?
Shouldn’t there be a reduction in voter registrations?
It’s Always Sunny in Sanctuary City
4/19/2019 11:00:00 AM
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Ed’Crime is down. Fun with numbers. Street Code of Silence.
Arrests are down. Kill crime on paper = Crime is down. See how that works.
Prosecutions are fewer. Kimmy setting everyone free.
Population down - city and state budget up. Feds watching. Burke said everything on legit now. Harder to steal. Gatta keep squeezing middle class to feed the Machine.
Population dwindling yet CPS is packed. Schools half empty but filled with Ghost Students and they all graduate.
Shouldn’t there be a reduction in weffare entitlemints too? No, how will I pay for my new I-phone and kicks.
Shouldn’t there be a reduction in voter registrations? Are you suggesting denying dead people the opportunity to vote Democratic? You must not be from here.
Reductions everywhere but not murders, shootings and other such thuggery. Business is good.
It’s Always Sunny in Sanctuary City :-)
4/19/2019 11:00:00 AM
I was born and partially raised in Chicago. My parents moved to Niles and raised 10 kids. I am glad they are both gone, they would not be able to
stomach the city now. When I got married in 1971, to Chicago Police Officer's daughter, we took up residence in East Rogers Park.
I visit that neighborhood occasionally when I am back in town.
You couldn't pay me to live there now.
Sorry, but the one party city theory doesn't work any more.
Too fucking expensive. I left NY and moved to Chicago...
i love how the hipsters always say that old white bigots are leaving and good riddance. they say young entrapenours are moving in and breathing new life into the city with micro brews and candle shops and tech start ups. they come for the big city experience, grab every grant and handout for their b.s. business ideas, fail and move back to keokuk to work at starbucks. sure if you live in a trendy neighborhood its like being on vacation rubbing elbows with losers from all corners of the world. and i say losers because if their ideas were any good they wouldnt have had to leave home. i lived my whole life in chicago in the trades. a city of ethnic neighborhoods filled to the brim with hard working people who built and maintained this city. now the socialists have deeded it to the transients and the free shit army. i know who built chicago........we did. not the useless transients who live near north and dress like lumber jacks but cant change a light bulb. and certainly not the free shit army, they dont live here for the weather, they live here for the welfare state and the lax laws. i was there, i saw and participated in building chicago, and my high taxes helped pay for it. when all the hard working ethnics leave, which is well under way, there will be nothing left but rootless millenials and hipsters and the free shit welfare army. it is a heart breaking decision to leave my home town, my people came in the 1840 s to dig the i & m canal and then stayed to work in the stockyards then move en masse to the cpd and public service. but it is over. chicago is no place to raise a family. bartertown rules apply and its thunder dome time. when the lights go out the rootless, mindless, drifting transient millenial will feel no remorse to move on to another big city they found good reviews on on yelp. and who will be left? the welfare state and their democratic politicians overlords. and it will be violent and ugly. and who will the democrat masters blame for the destruction of a formally beautiful city? us! the people that built it and paid for it before they were forced out of our city by restorative justice and all the other make believe socialist wealth distribution schemes.so fuck you hipsters, i dont want to leave, youre making me leave. enjoy the city YOU built.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
i love how the hipsters always say that old white bigots are leaving and good riddance. they say young entrapenours are moving in and breathing new life into the city with micro brews and candle shops and tech start ups. they come for the big city experience, grab every grant and handout for their b.s. business ideas, fail and move back to keokuk to work at starbucks. sure if you live in a trendy neighborhood its like being on vacation rubbing elbows with losers from all corners of the world. and i say losers because if their ideas were any good they wouldnt have had to leave home. i lived my whole life in chicago in the trades. a city of ethnic neighborhoods filled to the brim with hard working people who built and maintained this city. now the socialists have deeded it to the transients and the free shit army. i know who built chicago........we did. not the useless transients who live near north and dress like lumber jacks but cant change a light bulb. and certainly not the free shit army, they dont live here for the weather, they live here for the welfare state and the lax laws. i was there, i saw and participated in building chicago, and my high taxes helped pay for it. when all the hard working ethnics leave, which is well under way, there will be nothing left but rootless millenials and hipsters and the free shit welfare army. it is a heart breaking decision to leave my home town, my people came in the 1840 s to dig the i & m canal and then stayed to work in the stockyards then move en masse to the cpd and public service. but it is over. chicago is no place to raise a family. bartertown rules apply and its thunder dome time. when the lights go out the rootless, mindless, drifting transient millenial will feel no remorse to move on to another big city they found good reviews on on yelp. and who will be left? the welfare state and their democratic politicians overlords. and it will be violent and ugly. and who will the democrat masters blame for the destruction of a formally beautiful city? us! the people that built it and paid for it before they were forced out of our city by restorative justice and all the other make believe socialist wealth distribution schemes.so fuck you hipsters, i dont want to leave, youre making me leave. enjoy the city YOU built.
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I agree 100%. People coming in and running the City
Could never have facilitated its growth. City will continue to die off.
Leave Chicago to the savages and the Democrats. Life's to short. Escape Chicago.
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