Unqualified SWAT?
You would think that this was important, especially for the coppers who would be responding to a shit-hits-the-fan type incident:
- OT: I got a friend on the SWAT team and please listen to this. The guys started complaining trough email that they haven’t trained in OVER A YEAR and that it is a big officer safety issue for swat and patrol as well. They are not meeting their training standards and the guys performance dropped dramatically. They are not even qualified with their rifles. It is supposed to be biannually and they haven’t even qualified once this year. Here is the KICKER:::::: Their boss told everyone that all emails sent trough department email have to be approved by a sergeant. The reason is because they are Discoverable and inflammatory to the department. This is so f....d up.
So now you need the approval of a sergeant to complain to higher-ups about how taxpayers are being fucked out of even a reasonably trained police force. Makes perfect sense.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
94 Comments:
It's the old "you work here, so I own you" theory.
In case of a citizen fuck-up, the sharp lawyers would
hoover up all emails for past 3 yrs or so. Any complaints about
lack of training count as strikes against p.d. So, use the phone,
anonymous U.S. mail, or in person. The IT belongs to dept.
infrastructure and is part of discovery, as are training logs and
range times. Big, big mistake on their part.
Think MGM Grand.
Yea RAHM did the same thing he told his staff not to send emails to him.
I wonder if thats is a new general order?
Rule 2: Any action or conduct which impedes the Department’s efforts to achieve its policy and goals or brings discredit upon the Department
Rule 3: Any failure to promote the Department’s efforts to implement its policy or accomplish its goals
Rule 10: Inattention to duty.
Rule 11: Incompetency of inefficiency in the performance of duty.
special Ed just admitted to seeing the LAquan video and doing nothing he just violated multiple rules BUT who cares IAD is bought and paid for with merit bumps.
So they think sending it to the sergeant is the answer? The same rules of discovery apply if you send it to the sergeant or superintendent. Send it to the sergeant and bcc it to anybody you want.
What are they complaining about again? SWAT’s a zero liability, LAST to respond, purely phone call unit. If you're all that worries and scarred there’s always a desk position. The watch ain’t for you boys/girls either. As a patrol officer you’ll be the FIRST to respond to a potentially very dangerous job. But of course patrol is the backbone of the department, right?, and each watch receives “HighSpeed training and ballistic shields” needed to handle any potentially dangerous job.
Swat, what's that? Grab your rifle, diamond up, and do it yourself. Disband the whole unit because nobody waits for swat in today's climate.
As long as they’re CALEA they’re all good. No training required. Just show your CALEA card on incidents.
Wouldn’t that be called a “whistleblower?” The department’s supposed to encourage such action. Which we all know is an absolute farce.
They all need to show solidarity and go back to a District. Take all back at D2 and have proper standers or all will move on.
Our "SWAT" team is lacking in training? No that can't be lol. We better pray a terrorist incident never occurs in Chicago. This place is a joke.
Someone should tell me how many hours per year, including transportation does it take to get the required training...
“They are not even qualified with their rifles. It is supposed to be biannually and they haven’t even qualified once this year.”
If enough guys are interested, I'm sure he'll put a course on for them. Maybe the city will even contract out for SWAT training in the future.
https://teamspartan.com/
Last raid was March 15, 2019 (scanned press releases).
7 months, no practice?
Or is this a STRIPES re-run (practice on your own time)?
was on a swat incident once. green guy told me he was my lethal cover. I was to go taser ahead...f-that. Ill deal with it straight up, but ill never take no orders from some swat guy.
Can't FOIA what was never in the system...It's the Chicago Way!
Told Ya...
"doing more with less."
"Right-Sizing the department."
"Belt Tightening to achieve efficiencies."
35th St. and City Hall deliberately exposing Policemen to legal,
administrative, civil and criminal harm by intentional curtailment
of hands-on, reality based training and continuing education.
"Policing" IS a skill set and craft...
We and others far smarter and far better
have been yelling about this for years.
And we "Patrolmen" KNOW that a skill set
in any particular craft IS PERISHABLE
unless a commitment is made by those who
make the big bucks, to INSURE that said
skill set is not only refreshed but honed
to a keen edge.
"Screaming Video," bulletins and what not,
ARE a piss poor substitute for continuing
education and training...
The dearth of funding for continuing education
and reality based training which will enable
Policemen to actually better perform AS
Policemen is a sin, a shame and a m/fing crime
ongoing since Shortshanks, Rahm al-Ghoul and
the current militantly misandrist, tragically
misshapen, hateful, shriveled-ass homunculus
currently occupying the big chair on five at
city hall.
That such is ongoing, is a disservice to and a
crime against the upright, peace loving, law
abiding, tax-paying, deliberately diminished
and out-numbered, freight-paying, politically
nullified citizens of Chicago.
And yes, we're going to "go there..."
The JVD/LMcD incident was a tragedy compounded
by Rahm al-Ghoul's and McLousySpouse's deliberate
curtailment of hands-on Use Of Force training in
their effort to put CPD on a "diet" in order to
re-allocate monies earmarked for expenditure on
such training and cynically gifted to Dude Inc.
and the Catered-To Constituency...
When Policemen aren't enabled by their employer
to train/drill in a wide variety of scenarios,
Use Of Force incidents will continue to be
viewed as "excessive" and "illegal."
That's where/how the "take money from da Poleece
an' gibs it to US!" dumbshit got started.
Especially when corrupt, incompetent and poorly
trained command and review are charged with
"translating" for the public how/why an Officer
is adjudged reasonable (or not) for the action(s)
they took.
Shortshanks and Rahm al-Ghoul both should be on
live video feed rotting to skeletons in USBOP
custody for what they've done to this city and
Police Department.
We would have one small color TV dedicated
to that channel with the knobs broken off...
If we couldn't do shit else, we would sell
peanuts at I-290 & Central to keep the electric
on just to point and laugh at the screen.
"Unqualified SWAT."
Yet another big fucking can o'worms
local media will joyously poke around
and stir in to titillate and tantalize
the intellectually lazy mob with.
Police Like You Have No Friends...
You need your sergeant's permission to "blow the whistle"?
Sounds like an additional lawsuit to a "whistle blower" lawsuit.
FYI TO EVERYONE:
The IGs office DOES investigate anonymous complaints.
Also remember to Cc the complaint to many other places like the Mayor's office. Media outlets etc.
Any reporters that read this blog want to step up?
A few calls to some of the street level police to verify the facts. A few hours perusing Police Standards and maybe contact the National Police and SWAT organizations to verify if the standards and best practices are being met. Maybe call some other cities SWAT Teams to see how they do it, and if Chicago is out of line? Get your facts laid out and straight about what is not being done to make sure Chicago has the best SWAT Teams to keep the public safe.
Then ask the Mayor and the Superintendent to comment. Ask everyone, aldermen, police supervisors, SWAT supervisors on and off the record about this.
A little work and you have at least one story; and maybe a whole series as you branch out to look at all the police training.
And when it works out, be sure to tip the chaplain too.
Not sure about the whole email thing, but the rest about the training is 100% true. I have an ex partner that went to SWAT earlier this year and has not been to any training since SWAT school, hasn't shot his rifle or pistol since then. And the whole reasoning behind that is the city switching them back to the 6-2's rotating watch schedule. How messed up is that?
You do NOT need a Sgt’s approval to send an email. So many people in this department just make up “policies”.
Such a shocking amount of incompetence within the cpd
The Truth Shall Set You Free, but not in the CPD. Truth in the CPD will get you thrown under the bus.
But isn’t Chicago’s SWAT team rated last in a national competition?
This is pretty amazing. I can't imagine kicking in doors without spending more than a little time in the kill house, as well as practicing before and after the op. Hell, I'd have transferred to a pogue unit before doing something so asinine. Doing a high risk team related job without knowing instinctively where your team members are? This needs to be instinctual, as we all should know. Wrong on so many levels. "I thought you checked for the tripwire"... Famous last words
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Most units are unqualified and lack training! Others include latent print examiners, Evidence technicians, firearms lab desk dollies - how many accidental discharges have been covered up in there!
“ Swat, what's that? Grab your rifle, diamond up, and do it yourself. ”
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You’re forgetting that cpd doesn’t qualify its patrol officers for the rifle unless you have a phone call. Also they don’t give us shields, go bags, extra ammo, rifle plates and legitimate active shooter training.
Bring a swipe machine to major incidents so they can start the process of milking the call/ overtime on scene!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
“They are not even qualified with their rifles. It is supposed to be biannually and they haven’t even qualified once this year.”
If enough guys are interested, I'm sure he'll put a course on for them. Maybe the city will even contract out for SWAT training in the future.
https://teamspartan.com/
10/17/2019 01:09:00 AM
Yeah, lets have a disgraced policeman (two PD’s) train and certify them.
Hey crybaby, shoot on your own time like every other CPD has to. Why do you think you are so special? I'd like to spend duty hours ripping off rounds too, but I have to go help Big Mama get her kids to school each morning. You can quit and join me in 007.
SWAT?
Spoiled clouted brats. I would hate to depend on this 100% merit unit!
In 1997 My old partner applied for swat. He was a navy seal. They told him he was not qualified.
He applied again, they told him he was over qualified. He had no phone call to help him either.
Enuff said about swat! He retired with 20 years in 2015 on a beat car. What a waste of talent.
OMG this kid thinks SWAT is real!
Hahahahahahahha
Kid the entire dept isn't real. Swat is a spot. Shut up about it and you can hang around for a while. Run your mouth and you will get dumped. Some one please sit this kid down and explain to him how CPD works.....
Wait I'll give you a free lesson. If you think you got it good, your boss has it better. If you think you got it bad, you probably do.
Blame Eric Carter, we SWAT guys dont have time to train, they have us on every bullshit assignment. Tk about training how about telling Sergeant JP and his goof assistant PO. RB to show the Command van guys how to drive them trucks. Boy have things changed, they used to have a great Sergeant taking care of the vehicles.
Why no training? Ask Lt.Lamb
Training? The swat guys are training working out daily on the 3rd floor at Homan Square what more do you want?
I am a merit sergeant just do as your told!
SWAT has always been a mess in this city.
And how many times have they had weapon malfunctions at SWAT incidents do to poor maintenance and cleaning? How many bad guys got out of a location, or were missed during a SWAT search?
These guys are lacking big time but love to play the elite toy soldier role.
We can't all be a Playa Spotter Up
Lets not forget the mis-use federal funds for training and equipment.
Our merit led cps educated leadership got pissed at SWAT for asking for the training that's needed. So they showed them who's in charge. The put SWAT in 6-2 day off groups and they rotate watches like we did years ago. If you were on the job back when we rotated in 6-2's it was fucking brutal. What fucking leadership we have.
So Use a private e-mail when you do blow the whistle...
And is anyone surprised here? CPD runs everything into the ground. I was in a unit, and trained by Homeland Security. We were told that training ideally should be done three days a week ideally if not everyday. Training should be interrupted for any call out into the field. And that's where readiness comes into play.
Well we got back to CPD and trained for a few hours once a week at first. And sometimes never. SWAT isn't formed to sit around. They should train regularly so that when the call comes out, they can execute with complete precision the task before them. Complaints about training only got you listed as a troublemaker. I imagine it is the same all over. Supervisors who were never trained accordingly, and dictated policy based on the whims of the command staff. I left and was glad for it.
New guys take this into consideration. CPD fouls everything up! Forges paperwork, and qualifications. Adds training to your personnel jacket that you never heard of. (just look on the CPD Intranet)
In Summary, CPD needs an Enema. A real good whistle blower to blow the lid off. And when someone does blow the whistle, others need to come forward to substantiate, or it all gets covered up.
I was not in SWAT, but the model does apply all over.
Reminds me of the Fred Rice regime. In order to "save money" we did not have revolver qualifications for over one year! And another cost saver was purchasing "Zero" brand ammo from an unknown Arkansas vendor instead of Winchester Western ammo. Several squib rounds would surface in each box. I ended up purchasing my own ammo and used Dept issued ammo for the range - never the street.
Retired .38 spl +P
I thought the consent decree called more more training.
Maybe someone in Special Functions could explain this to Tommy boy.
I guess you don’t get captain bars or a gold star by doing what right.
Remember to BCC lovey and lovey.
Along with every boss in the direct chain of command.
Ed, of course, will deny any knowledge.
They are not even qualified with their rifles. It is supposed to be biannually and they haven’t even qualified once this year.”
If enough guys are interested, I'm sure he'll put a course on for them. Maybe the city will even contract out for SWAT training in the future.
https://teamspartan.com/
10/17/2019 01:09:00 AM
“They are not even qualified with their rifles.”
What a joke this city is. Didn’t their rifle fail during an Active Shooter? Did they finally get new rifles? Fuck SWAT, that’s why I have my own rifle. I don’t need this city shitty training or fucked up equipment.
“Tom the Merit Hack” or “Crossfire Tommy” and “Johnny OTHroma” or “Friendly Fire Johnny” only care about blowing Carter to get promoted. They don’t care about training or equipment for swat.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
was on a swat incident once. green guy told me he was my lethal cover. I was to go taser ahead...f-that. Ill deal with it straight up, but ill never take no orders from some swat guy.
10/17/2019 01:18:00 AM
Lethal cover? Hahahaha! Hey Jolly Green Giant with the “lethal cover” would your rifle even work?
Call the inspector general. The Department won't back you. Why are you worried about not embarrassing the Department. Speak truth to power and do the right thing.
Didn’t SQUAT miss two armed offenders in a house after they shot at a police commander? You need training to find dude hiding in a house?
Comrade! Obey or it's the gulag for you.
I was listening to a couple of the SWAT trainers talk about the Navy seals when they were in town. That arrogant fuck had the audacity to say that the tactics that swat uses were better than the Navy seals. Later on I found out that this ass clown made merit sgt and is back at SWAT. That should show you how fucked they are. They actually believe their own BS.
Wow. To bad our DOJ is compromised also. President Trump is being harassed on all sides but maybe someone should go to the White House site and post some details. This is really a disgrace - voters are somewhat to blame but those of us who are in the know don’t really have a lot of choice. We followed the Police recommendation for Lori. Look what a joke she is.
It’s hard to believe that together the Police, Fire, knowledgeable City and their families and supporters cannot come up with some decent human beings to take our city back. The State is being destroyed also by the Chicago effect. The investigations into Burke etc. sure seem quiet.
Some cops only worry about residency. As a huge supporter of law enforcement that’s one thing I disagree with. Residency was there when you took the job. If you no longer understand or agree with that, move on.......
Yes some SWAT member should go to DC and become a WB.
If all of you care about training that much, send an email to the superintendent through your chain of command. That might be a wake up call for 35th street if the team did it. But you won’t. You are like the rest of CPD that work in specialized units. You care more about your spot and take home car.
So please STFU about how bad you have it.
I forwarded that email to Dear Abbey.
She gets things done, offers constructive advice and many apologies for those seeking assistance “for a friend”.
Anyone in SWAT having a problem with training could file a safety grievance and look forward to the reassignment.
Management sets the training. Mgmt. will have to respond if that concern get in the right hands, but it won’t be from the CPD Merit Command.
However, grievances for what-ifs don’t count.
What-ifs include what to do in a fire alarm drill, spider bite triage, flooded viaduct rescue. Good luck.
Understanding that when the SHTF they always use the lack of training.
Of course there’s always the option to leave if not satisfied with management.
Unless things changed, how many in Patrol are routinely trained in room entry beyond the Academy?
Shoot-Don’t Shoot, Active School Shooter are these still offered?
Nobody is getting the kind of training they expect.
Continual pro-active training isn’t on the docket, never will be either.
Beside bullets costing money Groot won’t part with, big black guns are pure evil.
Legitimately, cultural apology, bowing, verbal judo, tolerance and diversity acknowledging is the scope.
SCC,
I have been on swat for six years and the above is sadly true. I haven’t fired my rifle for almost 6 months. I’m not even sure if it works. We do not train at all. We do not even meet the standards put forth by the NTOA for a part time swat team. It is clear that Swat is not a priority for the city. At this time I would not trust this team to save my family. Please don’t expect much from us. I am very ashamed but it’s true.
The Lt and all the SWAT sergeants except for one (DP) really don’t care about training. They care only about getting promoted. The coordinator (TL) and his lackey (JH) are all about the overtime and kissing ass to make rank.
The team is very young and inexperienced. Most of them are good guys but don’t have a clue to what their doing. The old timers undermine the younger team members anytime the word training is mentioned. These dogs are so disgruntled that they filed a law suit and the rest of the team is paying the price for their selfishness. The cancer spreads from these dishonorable dogs to the young guys every day. Don’t even get me started on the training staff and what a joke they are.
We are not going to be much use to you or the public. Several of us are considering going to the media.
How’s the kid the OD Swat LT ran over? I’m shocked that nobody heard about it.
Hey Eddie J,
Train more swat guys and put them in the districts on all 3 watches. This way you won’t need take home cars or 90 guys sitting around bitching and complaining. Response would also be faster.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Not sure about the whole email thing, but the rest about the training is 100% true. I have an ex partner that went to SWAT earlier this year and has not been to any training since SWAT school, hasn't shot his rifle or pistol since then. And the whole reasoning behind that is the city switching them back to the 6-2's rotating watch schedule. How messed up is that?
How does that change anything? Send them to school on days if the city doesn’t want OT. Officers on different days off go to training and qualify. So do tact guys who change shifts
Someone should tell me how many hours per year, including transportation does it take to get the required training...
Transportation. They have take homes.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What are they complaining about again? SWAT’s a zero liability, LAST to respond, purely phone call unit. If you're all that worries and scarred there’s always a desk position. The watch ain’t for you boys/girls either. As a patrol officer you’ll be the FIRST to respond to a potentially very dangerous job. But of course patrol is the backbone of the department, right?, and each watch receives “HighSpeed training and ballistic shields” needed to handle any potentially dangerous job.
100 percent right. The action the beat guy takes initially usually determines the outcome of the incident. Probably 95 percent are handled by the beat men prior to SWAT arriving
Back in my day, 2 Large Wagonmen could do the job of swat.
Uh, Huh. U know
i thought under the consent decree you all were going to get extra special training. and special Ed says you guys are important. fucking hilarious
was on a swat incident once. green guy told me he was my lethal cover. I was to go taser ahead...f-that. Ill deal with it straight up, but ill never take no orders from some swat guy.
______
"I'm SWAT but I don't really feel 100% comfortable going through that door."
"I'll just find some blue shirt, human shield dummy to "assist" me with this entry."
"You'll be alright. I'll be directly behind you providing lethal cover should your TASER malfunction. Any takers?"
SWAT
do like all the other police depts do in IL. Call in ISP or ILEAS SWAT.
But isn’t Chicago’s SWAT team rated last in a national competition?
Happened one time, but no one mentions the time they went back and took first.
Ahhh,the Shitcago way...
Cutting back on Police Training
to "achieve efficiencies?"
You can bet your ass that will
all change when mayors and
stupidintendents are made to
sit in the hard, uncomfortable
chair while listing their PERSONAL
assets and liabilities.
No?
Oh, ok then...
Shortcuts will get you cut...
How’s the kid the OD Swat LT ran over? I’m shocked that nobody heard about it.
Please do tell.
Poor swat guys don’t get time to workout or shoot their rifles. We are playing the violin for you on midnights in 007.
Anonymous said...
I was listening to a couple of the SWAT trainers talk about the Navy seals when they were in town. That arrogant fuck had the audacity to say that the tactics that swat uses were better than the Navy seals. Later on I found out that this ass clown made merit sgt and is back at SWAT. That should show you how fucked they are. They actually believe their own BS.
10/17/2019 10:36:00 AM
I know exactly who you are talking about. Made merit sergeant and went right back to the swat team . Didn’t do shit to deserve it. He’s Tommy’s whipping boy. Clout baby from day 1.
Sounds like SWAT is transitioning.
Anonymous said...
How’s the kid the OD Swat LT ran over? I’m shocked that nobody heard about it.
And dragged for about 20 feet after disregarding a solid red on a right turn.
That's why,as a civilian,I am armed and go to the range and train 1-3 times weekly.if dude thinks this grey haired old fuck is a easy lick,guess again.
Anonymous said...
They all need to show solidarity and go back to a District. Take all back at D2 and have proper standers or all will move on.
10/17/2019 12:48:00 AM
Solidarity? That’s a word that doesn’t exist at Homan Square. The sergeants and Lt are stabbing each other for their next promotion. You have suck ass blue shirts at A4 who have no problem throwing you under the bus. The trainers are to good to rotate watches like the rest of us. They have to have straight days and weekends off. I had more solidarity on my tact team than here at swat. We are screwed.
Don't worry about SWAT, here in Fugitives. ... we have people who don't know how to do a warrant arrest.....
We're they ever qualified. I qualified with the rifle and my pistol. Am cit trained and respond to all incidents. Even trained in clearing buildings. But I can't make it bc no phone call. Stop whining like little babies. But your taking the consent decree really serious.
Anonymous said...
Back in my day, 2 Large Wagonmen could do the job of swat.
10/17/2019 12:34:00 PM
Yeah, Turbyville and Jemenez. Saw more people run in fear when those two mofos got out of 1170. I would just look at em in awe, and say, Yeah.
Fun days indeed.
Anonymous said...
Hey Eddie J,
Train more swat guys and put them in the districts on all 3 watches. This way you won’t need take home cars or 90 guys sitting around bitching and complaining. Response would also be faster.
10/17/2019 11:25:00 AM
That’s a good idea!
Somebody tell Kimble to tone down his watchdog she’s running her mouth. Pillow talk speaks louder than words but damaging the trust
SWAT?
Spoiled clouted brats. I would hate to depend on this 100% merit unit!
In 1997 My old partner applied for swat. He was a navy seal. They told him he was not qualified.
He applied again, they told him he was over qualified. He had no phone call to help him either.
Enuff said about swat! He retired with 20 years in 2015 on a beat car. What a waste of talent.
10/17/2019 06:28:00 AM
Bull spit dude, back in 1997 CPD did not have a swat team. They had a part time hbt team. Some of us on this blog are in fact old enough to remember those days so easy on the lies. But you are right about one thing, that was a total phone call gig.
That's okay, I'm trained on a rifle so my immediate area is safe...
I remember that Fred RICE era of cost saving/stealing.It was over 18 Months without Weapon Qualifications and when they did begin the Qualifications again if you went to Qualify in the last 2 months they did not have ammo and you shot 3 rounds.Those were some incredible days on the job.
Anonymous said...
What are they complaining about again? SWAT’s a zero liability, LAST to respond, purely phone call unit. If you're all that worries and scarred there’s always a desk position. The watch ain’t for you boys/girls either. As a patrol officer you’ll be the FIRST to respond to a potentially very dangerous job. But of course patrol is the backbone of the department, right?, and each watch receives “HighSpeed training and ballistic shields” needed to handle any potentially dangerous job.
10/17/2019 12:37:00 AM
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First to respond worked so well at 500 W Madison (2006), and Mercy Hospital (2018) active shooter incidents. Both were resolved by SWAT, who according to you are slow to respond. You prove your ignorance by not studying history. The team is made up of solid individuals who are the victims of poor leadership. The same can be said for this whole department. This should be the best department in the country, but politics and jackass exempts continue to hold it back and keep it at the bottom. SWAT and CPD as a whole will never reach their full potential until there is a complete changing of the guard at the top...which means never!! Keep promoting bosses based on who they know and allowing them to make decisions that they have no idea how to make and this is what you get. A shit show of a department.
Didn’t they just dump a CFD exempt basically for the same thing?? Eric Carter should be working as a Lt now but I have a feeling that won’t happen.
The beat cops receive no training so why should SWAT be any different?
Turbyville, better known after NATO as "The Punch", was a combination of the nicest, and scariest, guy I have ever known.
But isn’t Chicago’s SWAT team rated last in a national competition?
Happened one time, but no one mentions the time they went back and took first.
10/17/2019 04:04:00 PM
Stop lying we took 7th
First to respond worked so well at 500 W Madison (2006), and Mercy Hospital (2018) active shooter incidents. Both were resolved by SWAT, who according to you are slow to respond. You prove your ignorance by not studying history. The team is made up of solid individuals who are the victims of poor leadership. The same can be said for this whole department. This should be the best department in the country, but politics and jackass exempts continue to hold it back and keep it at the bottom. SWAT and CPD as a whole will never reach their full potential until there is a complete changing of the guard at the top...which means never!! Keep promoting bosses based on who they know and allowing them to make decisions that they have no idea how to make and this is what you get. A shit show of a department.
10/18/2019 01:17:00 AM
Mercy Hospital? PO Jimenez was shot and killed after a SWAT rifle had a malfunction.
Anonymous said...
First to respond worked so well at 500 W Madison (2006), and Mercy Hospital (2018) active shooter incidents. Both were resolved by SWAT, who according to you are slow to respond. You prove your ignorance by not studying history. The team is made up of solid individuals who are the victims of poor leadership. The same can be said for this whole department. This should be the best department in the country, but politics and jackass exempts continue to hold it back and keep it at the bottom. SWAT and CPD as a whole will never reach their full potential until there is a complete changing of the guard at the top...which means never!! Keep promoting bosses based on who they know and allowing them to make decisions that they have no idea how to make and this is what you get. A shit show of a department.
10/18/2019 01:17:00 AM
Mercy Hospital? PO Jimenez was shot and killed after a SWAT rifle had a malfunction.
10/18/2019 12:42:00 PM
Yeah hard chargers. Your Dept issued rifle failed on an active shooter. How did a 3 man SORT response turn into a lone wolf with a defective rifle. Go blow smoke to the other ladies on swat. Did you forget there’s a Detective Division that investigates homicides? Fuck ups that’s what you are. You don’t even know if your own rifle works? Buy your own assholes, if your gonna do the job.
The team is made up of solid individuals who are the victims of poor leadership. The same can be said for this whole department.
10/18/2019 01:17:00 AM
Amen to that.
https://teamspartan.com/
10/17/2019 01:09:00 AM
Yeah, lets have a disgraced policeman (two PD’s) train and certify them.
10/17/2019 06:13:00 AM
You're probably right. A connected contractor would be so much better.
You’re forgetting that cpd doesn’t qualify its patrol officers for the rifle unless you have a phone call. Also they don’t give us shields, go bags, extra ammo, rifle plates and legitimate active shooter training.
10/17/2019 06:04:00 AM
Have my own go bag, bought an insert plate, have gone to off site training, oh and I’ve never had a problem qualifying with my rifle...ever. Use that uniform allowance skippy.
Mercy Hospital? PO Jimenez was shot and killed after a SWAT rifle had a malfunction.
10/18/2019 12:42:00 PM
Yeah hard chargers. Your Dept issued rifle failed on an active shooter. How did a 3 man SORT response turn into a lone wolf with a defective rifle. Go blow smoke to the other ladies on swat. Did you forget there’s a Detective Division that investigates homicides? Fuck ups that’s what you are. You don’t even know if your own rifle works? Buy your own assholes, if your gonna do the job.
Don’t disgrace Jimenez’ name. He had more heart than a Lion. More than I can say for you keyboard warriors.
Narcotics is having problems?
What’s wrong down there, everybody should be happy with the best Boss in the department. Kimble is a Gem
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