Get Your Ballots In
The deadline is fast approaching for the FOP election and believe it or not, politicians pay attention to participation as a measure of how involved we all are regarding our representation.
No one says you have to vote for an entire slate - pick and choose. We went heavily for independents this time around.
Vote.
No one says you have to vote for an entire slate - pick and choose. We went heavily for independents this time around.
Vote.
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
62 Comments:
There are a few good candidates on various slates. Who has the best work ethic? Who can give us our dues worth?
Can I write in The Keesing Bandit for president?
And the Ultimate Tactical Warrior for V.P.?
Question. Retired cop after 31 years at cpd. I was always in FOP and would send my check every year to remain in FOP after retirement. About 3 years ago, I never got my usual letter/bill in the mail to remain in FOP and send my check. I called FOP and was told too bad, once you are out, you are out.
This year I heard from another retiree that I could rejoin FOP and just pay what I am in the rears. I called FOP and left a message with reception, no call back. I emailed two persons listed on the FOP website, no email nor call back.
Am I crazy or wrong about this retiree rejoining FOP? Does anyone know a specific person over at FOP that I should be addressing specifically, if I can rejoin? Thank you for your time.
Vote for Kilmer. He’s a guy who does what’s right by the rank and file. A real stand up guy.
Ed Gorman is a solid dude!
I wish Mike Mette the best of luck. I truly believe he has our best interests at heart. I know him well, I trust him implicitly.
There should be well over 10,000 votes otherwise they will know you really don't care. Willing to bet not even 5,000 because the CPD is Every Man For Himself.
I can't vote I'm a retiree had alot going mailed my dues in last week of November. FOP cash my check 18 Dec for 2020 dues. I was told it was late but I still got my membership card for 2020, also been paying on time. A few hundred members are in the same situation.
(OT) this is the proper way to get rid of bosses like Eddie who is not getting $160,000 plus make that almost $180,000 in pension money which is ridiculous nothing but a massive amount of political theft:
Ousted New Hampshire police chief heads home in underwear after turning in guns and uniform
https://www.foxnews.com/us/ousted-new-hampshire-police-chief-heads-home-in-underwear-after-turning-in-guns-and-uniform
Do you think the keesing bandit will be observing this?
M Carroll running for trustee. His Dad was a cop, became lawyer and defended the killer of CPD officer Valdez. Do not vote for this goof
Mette has been through the crap. Best choice.
I NEVER received my Ballot !!!! I was told they had the WRONG address . I call BULLSHIT retired 20 years ago and they say Wrong address . double bullshit . Fuck you F O P !!!!
Am I crazy or wrong about this retiree rejoining FOP? Does anyone know a specific person over at FOP that I should be addressing specifically, if I can rejoin? Thank you for your time.
You can pay your past dues to become a member again, but you will not be able to vote any longer.
Call Pension Board and they will email, fax or send you Authorization form to take your yearly dues out for FOP ($40) in November.
It’s like voting for our mayor.
Wtf
No one can complain I guess - unless you run yourself.
But what a joke
This is Chicago and KG is a suck hole like every previous president.
Rahm decides not to run for Chicago mayor, and drops all FOP negotiations to the new Chicago mayor Lightfoot!
I'm regards to rejoining the FOP, when I retired I hade the pension board automatically make my payment every November. If you can get back in, you may want to do that.
No one votes because it's so hard and inconvenient. You have to fill in circles, then put the ballot not into one, but two separate envelopes. And then to top it off you have to drop the post marked envelope in a mailbox. That's too much work. [sarcasm off]
O.T. Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot proposes crackdown on bike, bus lane violations
What a joke. CPD can care less about bullshit bike lanes or bus lane violations and won't write any violations in spite of Larry.
Does it really matter?
It’s always the same no matter who’s in office.
Vote for Pedro
Donahue is the problem for retires being dropped by FOP and then making it hard to get back. It is time for him to go out to pasture.
What are the benefits or reasons of joining FOP when you retire?????? Please tell me. Thanks.
Question. Retired cop after 31 years at cpd. I was always in FOP and would send my check every year to remain in FOP after retirement. About 3 years ago, I never got my usual letter/bill in the mail to remain in FOP and send my check. I called FOP and was told too bad, once you are out, you are out.
This year I heard from another retiree that I could rejoin FOP and just pay what I am in the rears. I called FOP and left a message with reception, no call back. I emailed two persons listed on the FOP website, no email nor call back.
Am I crazy or wrong about this retiree rejoining FOP? Does anyone know a specific person over at FOP that I should be addressing specifically, if I can rejoin? Thank you for your time.
Pay your back dues and you are back in as a member
Vote Independent
Anonymous Anonymous said...
There should be well over 10,000 votes otherwise they will know you really don't care. Willing to bet not even 5,000 because the CPD is Every Man For Himself.
2/20/2020 04:59:00 AM
Yep, so true. Incompetent and embarrassing, and those are the ones who have never done a thing on this job and were given everything.
Anonymous said...
There should be well over 10,000 votes otherwise they will know you really don't care. Willing to bet not even 5,000 because the CPD is Every Man For Himself.
2/20/2020 04:59:00 AM
If it was 25,000, do you really think “they” would give a flying fuck!!?
Anonymous said...
There should be well over 10,000 votes otherwise they will know you really don't care. Willing to bet not even 5,000 because the CPD is Every Man For Himself.
2/20/2020 04:59:00 AM
Outside of Edison Park / Mount Greenwood the short answer is NO!
Question. Retired cop after 31 years at cpd. I was always in FOP and would send my check every year to remain in FOP after retirement. About 3 years ago, I never got my usual letter/bill in the mail to remain in FOP and send my check. I called FOP and was told too bad, once you are out, you are out.
This year I heard from another retiree that I could rejoin FOP and just pay what I am in the rears. I called FOP and left a message with reception, no call back. I emailed two persons listed on the FOP website, no email nor call back.
Am I crazy or wrong about this retiree rejoining FOP? Does anyone know a specific person over at FOP that I should be addressing specifically, if I can rejoin? Thank you for your time.
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Sounds about like most unions. All they really care about is getting your dues.
After over 30 years I have noticed not one union regime can really do much against the city. They usually just roll over and hope to keep on getting a check after retirement(right Donahue, Nolan, Hauser, Angelo)
Still waiting to found out why we have 17 trustees—the average Fortune 500 board has 9.1 members. Surely the FOP isn’t a Fortune 500 organization.
Same with 3 Sergeants at Arms. Why? To sign people into meetings?
“ Does anyone know a specific person over at FOP that I should be addressing specifically, if I can rejoin?” 2/20/2020 12:54:00 AM
Is it worth to rejoin is up for debate, but the life insurance could be helpful to your estate one day.
When my Ret. membership expired in ‘17 or‘18 it happened to me also.
I believe it was printed in a past FOP7 newsletter that due to the FOP changes in the rules/policy about sending out reminders to many retirees that for whatever reason didn’t respond.
So for me, I called and spoke with the receptionist who took my credit card number over the phone for the late dues and I was reinstated even though they said in the newsletter that they can’t. I now have the pension board make the annual dues deduction.
Don’t leave messages, there are many to sort through and they will get lost - even for the Actives... keep calling., seems midweek is best and before ballot counting starts too.
Anonymous said...
Still waiting to found out why we have 17 trustees—the average Fortune 500 board has 9.1 members. Surely the FOP isn’t a Fortune 500 organization.
Same with 3 Sergeants at Arms. Why? To sign people into meetings?
2/20/2020 01:55:00 PM
Yep,,,3 sgt at arms and still can not hear anything during the meetings
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Still waiting to found out why we have 17 trustees—the average Fortune 500 board has 9.1 members. Surely the FOP isn’t a Fortune 500 organization.
Same with 3 Sergeants at Arms. Why? To sign people into meetings?
2/20/2020 01:55:00 PM
The FOP Fortune 5 Mark Donahue, Bill Dougherty, Rich Aguilar, John Capperilli, and Ken Hauser.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Donahue is the problem for retires being dropped by FOP and then making it hard to get back. It is time for him to go out to pasture.
No retiree is dropped by FOP. If you are a retiree and don’t pay your dues you are not a member. That is not being dropped. It’s not hard to get back. Pay the years you didn’t pay and you can get back
Those three monkey statues of see no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil perfectly describes your union leadership. Not sure there is a choice that will make a difference on the ballot. If elected first things first will be to feather their own nest. Go along to get along should be the Moto hanging on the head Clowns office.
Anonymous said...
Question. Retired cop after 31 years at cpd. I was always in FOP and would send my check every year to remain in FOP after retirement. About 3 years ago, I never got my usual letter/bill in the mail to remain in FOP and send my check. I called FOP and was told too bad, once you are out, you are out.
This year I heard from another retiree that I could rejoin FOP and just pay what I am in the rears. I called FOP and left a message with reception, no call back. I emailed two persons listed on the FOP website, no email nor call back.
Am I crazy or wrong about this retiree rejoining FOP? Does anyone know a specific person over at FOP that I should be addressing specifically, if I can rejoin? Thank you for your time.
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Sounds about like most unions. All they really care about is getting your dues.
2/20/2020 12:39:00 PM
Send me forty dollars every year and I'll hand deliver my FOP book and stickers to you in person...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What are the benefits or reasons of joining FOP when you retire?????? Please tell me. Thanks.
From an old retiree. Say what you want about FOP, but before a union we really had no rights. No cash OT, rotating every 28 days, no seniority on transfer or assignment, work sometimes 16 hrs on Election Day and those in the districts 12 hour shifts with NO COMPENSATION just to mention a few. Reason would be helping the officers now on the job. $30 or $40 isn’t going to break you. Benefits, probably none except maybe feeling you are helping the officers following us.
I heard they brought in an outfit from Iowa to count the ballots.
Vote independant and make the FOP great again.
It’s valadez!
Have some respect and get his name right!
Salzman? Biggest whiner, was a millennial even before it was a thing. Never had a day where he wasn't complaining, even when he had a cush gig. No one could stand being around that guy.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What are the benefits or reasons of joining FOP when you retire?????? Please tell me. Thanks.
From an old retiree. Say what you want about FOP, but before a union we really had no rights. No cash OT, rotating every 28 days, no seniority on transfer or assignment, work sometimes 16 hrs on Election Day and those in the districts 12 hour shifts with NO COMPENSATION just to mention a few. Reason would be helping the officers now on the job. $30 or $40 isn’t going to break you. Benefits, probably none except maybe feeling you are helping the officers following us.
2/20/2020 06:54:00 PM
From an older retiree:
All those benefits were fought for and won by COP.
Confederation Of Police.
FOP was never a labor union. COP and later Local 1975 were unions.
FOP was and is a social club, good old boys, beer drinking club.
Anonymous said...
Still waiting to found out why we have 17 trustees—the average Fortune 500 board has 9.1 members. Surely the FOP isn’t a Fortune 500 organization.
Same with 3 Sergeants at Arms. Why? To sign people into meetings?
2/20/2020 01:55:00 PM
What about three Vice Presidents?
How un-fucking-necessary is that? The circle jerk could surround a bull dozer.
Don't vote for kilmer never did nothing when he was there all out for himself
nonymous said...
I NEVER received my Ballot !!!! I was told they had the WRONG address . I call BULLSHIT retired 20 years ago and they say Wrong address . double bullshit . Fuck you F O P !!!!
2/20/2020 07:18:00 AM
**Funny, another co-worker said he never received his ballot either...seems like some bullshit going on at the FOP.
To the unpublished:
Because BM and JS don't need their names out there as political footballs. They didn't ask for it and we have no idea if they want to be. We imagine you don't either.
Try again.
M Carroll running for trustee. His Dad was a cop, became lawyer and defended the killer of CPD officer Valdez. Do not vote for this goof
And what the fuck does his father's job have to do with him? How many coppers have relatives sitting in prison? Guess they should all be fired. How many coppers have used loevy and loevy to sue the department and city? Guess they should be fired or not trusted too. Crawl back into your hole and find something real to bitch about.
M Carroll running for trustee. His Dad was a cop, became lawyer and defended the killer of CPD officer Valdez. Do not vote for this goof
And what the fuck does his father's job have to do with him? How many coppers have relatives sitting in prison? Guess they should all be fired. How many coppers have used loevy and loevy to sue the department and city? Guess they should be fired or not trusted too. Crawl back into your hole and find something real to bitch about.
You can certainly write me in cutie. However, if elected I will not service.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
nonymous said...
I NEVER received my Ballot !!!! I was told they had the WRONG address . I call BULLSHIT retired 20 years ago and they say Wrong address . double bullshit . Fuck you F O P !!!!
2/20/2020 07:18:00 AM
**Funny, another co-worker said he never received his ballot either...seems like some bullshit going on at the FOP.
Have you been getting the monthly magazine?
If not, why didn't you fix this before the election?
Still trying to decide on President, but went with Mette and Gorman for VPs.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What are the benefits or reasons of joining FOP when you retire?????? Please tell me. Thanks.
From an old retiree. Say what you want about FOP, but before a union we really had no rights. No cash OT, rotating every 28 days, no seniority on transfer or assignment, work sometimes 16 hrs on Election Day and those in the districts 12 hour shifts with NO COMPENSATION just to mention a few. Reason would be helping the officers now on the job. $30 or $40 isn’t going to break you. Benefits, probably none except maybe feeling you are helping the officers following us.
2/20/2020 06:54:00 PM
From an older retiree:
All those benefits were fought for and won by COP.
Confederation Of Police.
FOP was never a labor union. COP and later Local 1975 were unions.
FOP was and is a social club, good old boys, beer drinking club.
You are rewriting history. We never had a contract when COP was active. Our first contract was with FOP. Seniority and the rest came from aFOP contract
From an older retiree:
All those benefits were fought for and won by COP.
Confederation Of Police.
FOP was never a labor union. COP and later Local 1975 were unions.
FOP was and is a social club, good old boys, beer drinking club.
Might be older, doubt it but COP and local 1975 , remember that date because Mayor Byrne didn’t give us the right to unionize and have a contract until 1980. Also below is an exert from a 2016 newspaper article which clearly states the FOP negotiated the first contract 35 years ago. 2016 minus 35 equals 1981
Bottom line, COP never got us a union and all the benefits and rights were granted thru our 1st contract and improved upon in later one
From the moment Chicago's Fraternal Order of Police started negotiating its first contract with City Hall 35 years ago, the union identified an issue that would prove key to its members: ensuring officers had robust protections when they were investigated for misconduct.
City Hall had its own focus: money.
What do we do if we still haven't received a ballot? Typing this on 22Feb, so are people still getting them? Haven't received an FOP book or newsletter in the mail in a few years but DO remember getting a ballot for the last election, so they should have the address. I will call FOP but reading these comments doesn't give me hope of reaching anybody.
The current crop of CPD members most likely are not aware that Chicago FOP #7, did not exist until late 1981. That coincides with Jane Byrne being the Mayor of Chicago between the years of 1979 and 1983. Janie was the true heroine and benefactor of better work conditions and salary boosts for the CPD, though it was in the Byrne years that the FOP began representing us. However, it was police loving Byrne who caused the changes, not the FOP.
Since the FOP became our bargaining agent, I can say, with conviction, that they have not been instrumental in any MAJOR defining act to make the job any better. Anyone? Name one meaningful accomplishment.
And that people, is why there has always been a low voting turnout. In essence, they are useless and most cops know so.
'Haven't received an FOP book or newsletter in the mail in a few years...'
Why didn't you fix this before the election???
Haven't received an FOP book or newsletter in the mail in a few years...'
Why didn't you fix this before the election???
What am I really missing in the FOP newsletter, and the fop book I get from my unit rep. That's why I didnt fix it. The ballot is a different story.
Haven't received an FOP book or newsletter in the mail in a few years...'
Why didn't you fix this before the election???
Do you have an answer on how to get a ballot? Where? By when to vote? Answers to the original question? Or do you just like to answer legitimate questions with a " Why didn't you...?" As far as I know there's still time "before the election" so answers to the question would be helpful.
'Haven't received an FOP book or newsletter in the mail in a few years...'
Why didn't you fix this before the election???
Don’t you love these kind of comments. Haven’t called or wandered why he never received newsletter or a book. Hard to keep track of court dates without a FOO book and if he’s a retiree there no way he send in a check for $40 and didn’t call about the book and then sent another check the next year
The current crop of CPD members most likely are not aware that Chicago FOP #7, did not exist until late 1981. That coincides with Jane Byrne being the Mayor of Chicago between the years of 1979 and 1983. Janie was the true heroine and benefactor of better work conditions and salary boosts for the CPD, though it was in the Byrne years that the FOP began representing us. However, it was police loving Byrne who caused the changes, not the FOP.
Since the FOP became our bargaining agent, I can say, with conviction, that they have not been instrumental in any MAJOR defining act to make the job any better. Anyone? Name one meaningful accomplishment.
And that people, is why there has always been a low voting turnout. In essence, they are useless and most cops know so.
Mostly true and some retirees also didn’t know writing that COP did it all. They tried getting us OT, but lost the case in court with the just saying the city was required to pay more than our allotted salaries
Could it be that some of these guys aren’t getting their ballot or FOP book because they are retirees who haven’t paid their dues. Also why post it here, call the FOP. If you are active it’s important the FOP has your correct address for other information and mailings.
Preib seems to be the best guy with the best crew. Just sayin.
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